The Organic Moderated Reactor Experiment (1958)

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  • @vote4carp
    @vote4carp 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Thanks for translating the original Spanish audio for us, Shirly! Great job.

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      She did an amazing job. I was a little surprised when I picked up the hard drive from the scanners and the soundtrack was in Spanish. She saved the day for the English speaking crew.

  • @bavarianmonkey8326
    @bavarianmonkey8326 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    "and a wall thickness of 2.54 centimeters" sounds suspicially imperial 😂

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      It was built in imperial, translated to Spanish, and then translated back to English so yeah it was 1"

    • @bavarianmonkey8326
      @bavarianmonkey8326 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @whatisnuclear sure, it was a USA design. Just found it funny to hear an english voiceover in a Film about a USA nuclear design not meant for the military that uses metic.

    • @killman369547
      @killman369547 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well, the imperial system is legally pegged to the metric system so i'm not entirely surprised.

  • @christopherleubner6633
    @christopherleubner6633 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    They have found that organics work extremely well for nuclear diven stirling engines. Deuteratated pentane or difluoro ethylene work the best. The core is a ceramic honeycomb and a variable beryllium reflector gives gain. It bumps in pulses like a coffeemaker so each time it gets hot it dumps a puff of gas from the moderation fluid it lowers the reactivity. Posible candidate for space probes that need more power than a RTG can provide.❤

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Love it. I was just reading about deuterated hydrocarbons in one of the OMRE reports. Probably the most obscure reactor coolant/moderator

  • @daveys
    @daveys 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I believe that they use the same type of melted cheese that Greggs use in their cheese and onion pasties. About same temperature too.

    • @christopherleubner6633
      @christopherleubner6633 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Has to be the cheese material used in nuked pizza pockets in the US. That gets critical to be sure. 😂

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    That playing card shirt is incredible.

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I noticed that too. So cool!

  • @williamkane
    @williamkane 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Hydrocarbons as coolant! I would have never even thought of that. Very interesting, nostalgic video, thank you a lot for archiving these masterpieces.

  • @ericdanielski4802
    @ericdanielski4802 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Nice documentary.

  • @heathcliff8624
    @heathcliff8624 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thank you for this.

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It's my pleasure. The best hobby.

  • @markh.6687
    @markh.6687 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    "Flammable Coolants? What could possibly go wrong?"

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      To be fair we've run lots of reactors with liquid metal sodium and NaK coolant as well, which is explosive on contact with water in the presence of oxygen. We can control for this (e.g. by keeping oxygen out).

    • @markh.6687
      @markh.6687 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@whatisnuclear Yes, I know about those. It just sounds like a bad idea cooling something with low-flash point hydrocarbons. Wonder if they ever tried using Diesel fuel, which is harder to ignite. I mean, it was the 50's and 60's, when every nuclear idea was a good one, right? :)

    • @BobOgden1
      @BobOgden1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Honestly I keep expecting to run into an example of a boiling mercury system like they tried on conventional power stations - I mean they had Pluto so why not

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@BobOgden1 How about just plain old liquid mercury? Clementine did that. doi.org/10.1080/00295450.2023.2176686

    • @BobOgden1
      @BobOgden1 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@whatisnuclear Oh be still my heart 😍My life is complete.
      What could possibly go wrong

  • @Blazefork
    @Blazefork วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the guy riding the cable up.

  • @samsmith9764
    @samsmith9764 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks for the upload :)

  • @Muonium1
    @Muonium1 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The production of radioactive C14 in the "Santowax" (whatever that actually was) must have been phenomenal.

  • @swokatsamsiyu3590
    @swokatsamsiyu3590 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh goodie! A new historical nuclear gem for us to enjoy. I truly like watching these old research films. But where is that soothing polygonal voice-over from yesteryear? This AI lady doesn't quite have the same charm😅

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It's a real lady! My friend Shirly did the voice-over. The original audio (linked in description above) is in Spanish if you want to hear it.

  • @hmbpnz
    @hmbpnz 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Wow, where is the English version of this? Thanks for the translation! Would be spectacular to snag the English version of this film as well....I love the original audio in these old films....where are you finding these?

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Not sure where the original English soundtrack is. This is just what came out of the National Archives fault of 16mm films. I explain how I get these here: th-cam.com/video/jJ0lxki0a2U/w-d-xo.html

    • @hmbpnz
      @hmbpnz วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@whatisnuclear Thanks for the reply! The videos that you are uploading are a critical part of our scientific history and I thank you.

  • @TheOpticalFreak
    @TheOpticalFreak 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Where is the original audio?! 😢

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Linked in the description! When I got it digitized I was surprised to find it Spanish! th-cam.com/video/e5AOcPYXZyg/w-d-xo.html

  • @wm377
    @wm377 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Who thought this was a good idea. What's next, a mayonnaise-cooled reactor?

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Lots of people thought, and still think, organic fluids may make a good reactor material. Here's a recent publication from MIT: dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/117025/1-s2.0-S1738573316300031-main.pdf

    • @sambrose1
      @sambrose1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I built one. Tiny 1500 kw backyard off grid kinda thing. I had a high pressure high temperature mayonnaise loop feeding the steam generator for the turbine. So anyway it ran great at around 975psi about 550 degree Fahrenheit.

    • @wm377
      @wm377 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sambrose1 Did you have to run a hydro-cracker for the eggs?

    • @Sim-q9t
      @Sim-q9t 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      GMO bees, GMO bees, that swarm, and feed off of radiation, and beat their wings to cool the reactor...duh...

    • @Sim-q9t
      @Sim-q9t 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@sambrose1 where did you source your organic mayonaise? I heard it's important to get good quality. Did you have any problems with mayo fouling in your condenser core fins??

  • @AppliedCryogenics
    @AppliedCryogenics 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    polyphenol (hydrocarbon coolant and moderator)

  • @membola
    @membola วันที่ผ่านมา

    cool video. thanks for the upload. i just came across your channel. will sub for sure.

  • @K_Hansen
    @K_Hansen 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    when the ussr fell me and some others where almost able to get 2 800w RTG's that georga (the country) was pulling out

  • @JoshuaMay-e2n
    @JoshuaMay-e2n 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why was the original narration in Spanish?

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's just what the film reel they had at the National Archives happened to have I guess. They made these films and gave them as presentations all around the world in different languages. Obviously there was an english soundtrack somewhere as well, but that's not the one I found and digitized.

    • @JoshuaMay-e2n
      @JoshuaMay-e2n วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@whatisnuclear Of course, right, makes sense. Well anyway, thank you for this, I really enjoyed it.

  • @Subsonik762
    @Subsonik762 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What was the intent or goal using organics? Why would you want organics as your moderator/medium?

    • @jasonpearson2507
      @jasonpearson2507 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lower operating pressure and basically no corrosion is my guess
      But I'm guessing the byproducts produced in the coolant were nasty to say the least...
      Also hydrogen and steel bo not play nice at elevated temperature and pressure

  • @City__Walker
    @City__Walker วันที่ผ่านมา

    heating of the coolant😂😂, strange idea

  • @FrisoGorter
    @FrisoGorter วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This AI narration nonsense is getting really annoying.

    • @whatisnuclear
      @whatisnuclear  2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It's not AI. It's my friend Shirly who added the english soundtrack. If you check the description you'll see a link to the original audio, which is in spanish, if you prefer!

  • @cpm1003
    @cpm1003 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kg/cm^2 is a lousy unit for pressure. Great video, though!

    • @hmbpnz
      @hmbpnz 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Is it really though? Worse than pounds per square inch? Sure, I have an intuition as an American about what a PSI is....but if I had been raised and schooled using a saner system like metric it would be equally relatable.
      At least I know how to convert the metric stuff into other metric measurements by dividng and multiplying by 10....

    • @cpm1003
      @cpm1003 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hmbpnz I can do metric, smart-ass. Kg are a unit of mass, not force. Pressure is force/area, not mass/area. The correct metric unit would be Pascals.

    • @bavarianmonkey8326
      @bavarianmonkey8326 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@hmbpnzboth are kind of half good because neither kg nor pounds are force related but mass related units.
      One should rather use a force there, like newtons

    • @sashimanu
      @sashimanu 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      1 kg(f)/cm2 is a mouthful to pronounce but easy to understand: it is approximately the air pressure at sea level. Conveniently, there is a pressure unit for that: 1 atmosphere or 1 bar is approximately 1 kgf/cm2, with an error of about 3%. 1 atm is also approximately 15 pound-force of bald eagle per square inch of of an Olympic-size swimming pool. This imprecision is perfectly acceptable for general discussion when not chasing decimal points.
      The SI unit of pressure is pascal: 1 Pa is 1 newton of force per 1 meter squared of area. 1 Pa is a rather small unit, so megapascals are often used in plumbing (1 MPa ≈ 10 atm), and hectopascals in weather science where more preceision is needed (1013.25 hPa = 1 atm = 760 mmHg = 29,92 inHg).
      If you think it’s complicated, look into radiation dosimetry :)