She did an amazing job. I was a little surprised when I picked up the hard drive from the scanners and the soundtrack was in Spanish. She saved the day for the English speaking crew.
@whatisnuclear sure, it was a USA design. Just found it funny to hear an english voiceover in a Film about a USA nuclear design not meant for the military that uses metic.
They have found that organics work extremely well for nuclear diven stirling engines. Deuteratated pentane or difluoro ethylene work the best. The core is a ceramic honeycomb and a variable beryllium reflector gives gain. It bumps in pulses like a coffeemaker so each time it gets hot it dumps a puff of gas from the moderation fluid it lowers the reactivity. Posible candidate for space probes that need more power than a RTG can provide.❤
Sounds good because deuterium is involved, so I suppose this reactor is with higher neutron economy than LWR (carbon is adding to it) , and far more resistant to corrosion and with longer operational life, but I'm not sure about efficient heat transfer from the core to the heat exchanger because of the hydrocarbons. And I think there is great risk of fires.
To be fair we've run lots of reactors with liquid metal sodium and NaK coolant as well, which is explosive on contact with water in the presence of oxygen. We can control for this (e.g. by keeping oxygen out).
@@whatisnuclear Yes, I know about those. It just sounds like a bad idea cooling something with low-flash point hydrocarbons. Wonder if they ever tried using Diesel fuel, which is harder to ignite. I mean, it was the 50's and 60's, when every nuclear idea was a good one, right? :)
Honestly I keep expecting to run into an example of a boiling mercury system like they tried on conventional power stations - I mean they had Pluto so why not
Oh goodie! A new historical nuclear gem for us to enjoy. I truly like watching these old research films. But where is that soothing polygonal voice-over from yesteryear? This AI lady doesn't quite have the same charm😅
@@whatisnuclear My deepest apologies for this rather large gaffe😅 And although I speak 6 different languages, I do not have the first word of Spanish on me, so English it will be.
Wow, where is the English version of this? Thanks for the translation! Would be spectacular to snag the English version of this film as well....I love the original audio in these old films....where are you finding these?
Not sure where the original English soundtrack is. This is just what came out of the National Archives fault of 16mm films. I explain how I get these here: th-cam.com/video/jJ0lxki0a2U/w-d-xo.html
That's just what the film reel they had at the National Archives happened to have I guess. They made these films and gave them as presentations all around the world in different languages. Obviously there was an english soundtrack somewhere as well, but that's not the one I found and digitized.
Lower operating pressure and basically no corrosion is my guess But I'm guessing the byproducts produced in the coolant were nasty to say the least... Also hydrogen and steel bo not play nice at elevated temperature and pressure
Lots of people thought, and still think, organic fluids may make a good reactor material. Here's a recent publication from MIT: dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/117025/1-s2.0-S1738573316300031-main.pdf
I built one. Tiny 1500 kw backyard off grid kinda thing. I had a high pressure high temperature mayonnaise loop feeding the steam generator for the turbine. So anyway it ran great at around 975psi about 550 degree Fahrenheit.
@@sambrose1 where did you source your organic mayonaise? I heard it's important to get good quality. Did you have any problems with mayo fouling in your condenser core fins??
Cong hoa xa hou chu nghia viet nam tu do hanh phuc ngay 29/12/2005 giay to ho so mat trong phim tai lieu lich su chien tranh thua da di chet mot noi cut ra khoi dang bo nha nuoc tai viet nam the gioi am duong tren duoi trong ngoai giao lai cho gia dinh hoang xuan hoi huyen me hoang thi kha con de hoang xuan khoi vo hoang thi kha con de am 4 dua con de hoang xuan thao vo hoang thi nhakhanh con de hoang xuan anh dung tai xa nghi thiet huyen nghi loc tinh nghe an viet nam the gioi het
Is it really though? Worse than pounds per square inch? Sure, I have an intuition as an American about what a PSI is....but if I had been raised and schooled using a saner system like metric it would be equally relatable. At least I know how to convert the metric stuff into other metric measurements by dividng and multiplying by 10....
@@hmbpnz I can do metric, smart-ass. Kg are a unit of mass, not force. Pressure is force/area, not mass/area. The correct metric unit would be Pascals.
@@hmbpnzboth are kind of half good because neither kg nor pounds are force related but mass related units. One should rather use a force there, like newtons
1 kg(f)/cm2 is a mouthful to pronounce but easy to understand: it is approximately the air pressure at sea level. Conveniently, there is a pressure unit for that: 1 atmosphere or 1 bar is approximately 1 kgf/cm2, with an error of about 3%. 1 atm is also approximately 15 pound-force of bald eagle per square inch of of an Olympic-size swimming pool. This imprecision is perfectly acceptable for general discussion when not chasing decimal points. The SI unit of pressure is pascal: 1 Pa is 1 newton of force per 1 meter squared of area. 1 Pa is a rather small unit, so megapascals are often used in plumbing (1 MPa ≈ 10 atm), and hectopascals in weather science where more preceision is needed (1013.25 hPa = 1 atm = 760 mmHg = 29,92 inHg). If you think it’s complicated, look into radiation dosimetry :)
It's not AI. It's my friend Shirly who added the english soundtrack. If you check the description you'll see a link to the original audio, which is in spanish, if you prefer!
Thanks for translating the original Spanish audio for us, Shirly! Great job.
She did an amazing job. I was a little surprised when I picked up the hard drive from the scanners and the soundtrack was in Spanish. She saved the day for the English speaking crew.
"and a wall thickness of 2.54 centimeters" sounds suspicially imperial 😂
It was built in imperial, translated to Spanish, and then translated back to English so yeah it was 1"
@whatisnuclear sure, it was a USA design. Just found it funny to hear an english voiceover in a Film about a USA nuclear design not meant for the military that uses metic.
Well, the imperial system is legally pegged to the metric system so i'm not entirely surprised.
They have found that organics work extremely well for nuclear diven stirling engines. Deuteratated pentane or difluoro ethylene work the best. The core is a ceramic honeycomb and a variable beryllium reflector gives gain. It bumps in pulses like a coffeemaker so each time it gets hot it dumps a puff of gas from the moderation fluid it lowers the reactivity. Posible candidate for space probes that need more power than a RTG can provide.❤
Love it. I was just reading about deuterated hydrocarbons in one of the OMRE reports. Probably the most obscure reactor coolant/moderator
Sounds good because deuterium is involved, so I suppose this reactor is with higher neutron economy than LWR (carbon is adding to it) , and far more resistant to corrosion and with longer operational life, but I'm not sure about efficient heat transfer from the core to the heat exchanger because of the hydrocarbons. And I think there is great risk of fires.
Thank you for this.
It's my pleasure. The best hobby.
I believe that they use the same type of melted cheese that Greggs use in their cheese and onion pasties. About same temperature too.
Has to be the cheese material used in nuked pizza pockets in the US. That gets critical to be sure. 😂
That playing card shirt is incredible.
I noticed that too. So cool!
Nice documentary.
"Flammable Coolants? What could possibly go wrong?"
To be fair we've run lots of reactors with liquid metal sodium and NaK coolant as well, which is explosive on contact with water in the presence of oxygen. We can control for this (e.g. by keeping oxygen out).
@@whatisnuclear Yes, I know about those. It just sounds like a bad idea cooling something with low-flash point hydrocarbons. Wonder if they ever tried using Diesel fuel, which is harder to ignite. I mean, it was the 50's and 60's, when every nuclear idea was a good one, right? :)
Honestly I keep expecting to run into an example of a boiling mercury system like they tried on conventional power stations - I mean they had Pluto so why not
@@BobOgden1 How about just plain old liquid mercury? Clementine did that. doi.org/10.1080/00295450.2023.2176686
@@whatisnuclear Oh be still my heart 😍My life is complete.
What could possibly go wrong
Thanks for the upload :)
Hydrocarbons as coolant! I would have never even thought of that. Very interesting, nostalgic video, thank you a lot for archiving these masterpieces.
Love the guy riding the cable up.
The production of radioactive C14 in the "Santowax" (whatever that actually was) must have been phenomenal.
Oh goodie! A new historical nuclear gem for us to enjoy. I truly like watching these old research films. But where is that soothing polygonal voice-over from yesteryear? This AI lady doesn't quite have the same charm😅
It's a real lady! My friend Shirly did the voice-over. The original audio (linked in description above) is in Spanish if you want to hear it.
@@whatisnuclear
My deepest apologies for this rather large gaffe😅 And although I speak 6 different languages, I do not have the first word of Spanish on me, so English it will be.
Wow, where is the English version of this? Thanks for the translation! Would be spectacular to snag the English version of this film as well....I love the original audio in these old films....where are you finding these?
Not sure where the original English soundtrack is. This is just what came out of the National Archives fault of 16mm films. I explain how I get these here: th-cam.com/video/jJ0lxki0a2U/w-d-xo.html
@@whatisnuclear Thanks for the reply! The videos that you are uploading are a critical part of our scientific history and I thank you.
Where is the original audio?! 😢
Linked in the description! When I got it digitized I was surprised to find it Spanish! th-cam.com/video/e5AOcPYXZyg/w-d-xo.html
Świetne są te filmy 🎉❤🎉
Pozdrawiam serdecznie.🇵🇱
polyphenol (hydrocarbon coolant and moderator)
wouldn't the hydrocarbons break down in high radiation? sludge and varnish?
Why was the original narration in Spanish?
That's just what the film reel they had at the National Archives happened to have I guess. They made these films and gave them as presentations all around the world in different languages. Obviously there was an english soundtrack somewhere as well, but that's not the one I found and digitized.
@@whatisnuclear Of course, right, makes sense. Well anyway, thank you for this, I really enjoyed it.
when the ussr fell me and some others where almost able to get 2 800w RTG's that georga (the country) was pulling out
What was the intent or goal using organics? Why would you want organics as your moderator/medium?
Lower operating pressure and basically no corrosion is my guess
But I'm guessing the byproducts produced in the coolant were nasty to say the least...
Also hydrogen and steel bo not play nice at elevated temperature and pressure
cool video. thanks for the upload. i just came across your channel. will sub for sure.
Who thought this was a good idea. What's next, a mayonnaise-cooled reactor?
Lots of people thought, and still think, organic fluids may make a good reactor material. Here's a recent publication from MIT: dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/117025/1-s2.0-S1738573316300031-main.pdf
I built one. Tiny 1500 kw backyard off grid kinda thing. I had a high pressure high temperature mayonnaise loop feeding the steam generator for the turbine. So anyway it ran great at around 975psi about 550 degree Fahrenheit.
@@sambrose1 Did you have to run a hydro-cracker for the eggs?
GMO bees, GMO bees, that swarm, and feed off of radiation, and beat their wings to cool the reactor...duh...
@@sambrose1 where did you source your organic mayonaise? I heard it's important to get good quality. Did you have any problems with mayo fouling in your condenser core fins??
1600 lü yıllarda türkiyede ekmek pişirmek için bu tekneloji kullanılıyordu. O yıllarda tehlikeli olduğu anlaşıldı ve organik yakıta yöneldiler.
heating of the coolant😂😂, strange idea
Hippies rejoice the discovery of organic nuclear reactor.
Cong hoa xa hou chu nghia viet nam tu do hanh phuc ngay 29/12/2005 giay to ho so mat trong phim tai lieu lich su chien tranh thua da di chet mot noi cut ra khoi dang bo nha nuoc tai viet nam the gioi am duong tren duoi trong ngoai giao lai cho gia dinh hoang xuan hoi huyen me hoang thi kha con de hoang xuan khoi vo hoang thi kha con de am 4 dua con de hoang xuan thao vo hoang thi nhakhanh con de hoang xuan anh dung tai xa nghi thiet huyen nghi loc tinh nghe an viet nam the gioi het
th-cam.com/video/XcPXy5prPRk/w-d-xo.html
Kg/cm^2 is a lousy unit for pressure. Great video, though!
Is it really though? Worse than pounds per square inch? Sure, I have an intuition as an American about what a PSI is....but if I had been raised and schooled using a saner system like metric it would be equally relatable.
At least I know how to convert the metric stuff into other metric measurements by dividng and multiplying by 10....
@@hmbpnz I can do metric, smart-ass. Kg are a unit of mass, not force. Pressure is force/area, not mass/area. The correct metric unit would be Pascals.
@@hmbpnzboth are kind of half good because neither kg nor pounds are force related but mass related units.
One should rather use a force there, like newtons
1 kg(f)/cm2 is a mouthful to pronounce but easy to understand: it is approximately the air pressure at sea level. Conveniently, there is a pressure unit for that: 1 atmosphere or 1 bar is approximately 1 kgf/cm2, with an error of about 3%. 1 atm is also approximately 15 pound-force of bald eagle per square inch of of an Olympic-size swimming pool. This imprecision is perfectly acceptable for general discussion when not chasing decimal points.
The SI unit of pressure is pascal: 1 Pa is 1 newton of force per 1 meter squared of area. 1 Pa is a rather small unit, so megapascals are often used in plumbing (1 MPa ≈ 10 atm), and hectopascals in weather science where more preceision is needed (1013.25 hPa = 1 atm = 760 mmHg = 29,92 inHg).
If you think it’s complicated, look into radiation dosimetry :)
This AI narration nonsense is getting really annoying.
It's not AI. It's my friend Shirly who added the english soundtrack. If you check the description you'll see a link to the original audio, which is in spanish, if you prefer!
th-cam.com/video/bIiA9fjtntk/w-d-xo.html