Thumbs down for having a sponsor and many more if I could for the low life act of interrupting your content to spew garbage. Welcome to ranks of garbage youtubers!
I can't believe you left out Cher Ami on the carrier pigeon part, or the Carrington Event on the telegraph, or the Japanese Ku-Go “Death Ray” weapon, or the Transatlantic telegraph cable, or the Transatlantic communications cable, or even the Moscow-Washington hotline and there are several others but I guess you would lose the attention of the audience. Oh and the "Talkies".
So why ARE unused microwave towers still standing? Too much money to take them down? Or left up as potential backup if some future crisis occurs? Or planned to be re-purposed for something else?
As somebody who to this day works on microwave networks.....these are still in use by hundreds of entities in the US alone. They are used in places where laying fiber optic cables would be cost prohibitive or is flat out not allowed (through national parks, etc). This equipment is still manufactured and progressing and is now capable of supporting speeds up to 10Gbps.
I design word docs for circuits using them sometimes and I hate them lol. They're inventoried in our TIRKS database in all kinds of bullshit ways and we basically have to get told by an engineer a carrier we need to use is some microwave between mountains XD
@@Emily_M81 They function great, but we do all our own documentation in house lol. Hybrid circuits are always a PITA though, I much prefer pure microwave networks overall. As soon as you start introducing fiber inbetween on the circuits it gets way too messy and complicated (from a monitoring standpoint).
I live in the desert west of Nevada, grew up in Idaho. Yes. Many of these are still in use. Some are now smaller than they used to be. I am now an ham radio operator. We use similar microwave radios to jump from mountain to mountain for our repeater network. Telecoms still use these older system.
I worked for a WISP before owning my own. We used one of these in a rural South Louisiana area. Truly remarkable how NO expense was spared in every facet. I had the pleasure of talking for 45minutes with an older Gent that managed this Long Lines Site. These were an overlooked factor in this Nation's infrastructure.
When I was born in 1961, Dad took a job with a team that service, upgraded, and installed new Skyway towers. It was one of several teams. Teams had to live in travel trailers of a maximum length, so they could drive in any state by day or night. We were always moving from one tower to another. The teams became VERY close knit. Even after Dad quit when I started school, he kept in touch with old team members for decades.
Nice story. I think the social aspect of government projects is one of the most undervalued benefits they often bring. The relationships forged during these projects are still paying off till this day. Just the Apollo program alone is still paying back this country. Traveling as a youngster must have been quite the adventure during that time period.
Our Godfather, Robert Shennum, invented Digital with his lab partner while working for Bell Labs. Shennum's unrelated 1954 PhD thesis from Caltech is avail online. Later, Digital Patent owned by AT&T on embedded code multiplex switching credits Shennum and Leonard as co-inventors. "Digital" was coined later.
@@toomanyuseridsmy dad was in the actual relay area. He later managed the long distance switching systems. He was always at work during the holidays. He would reroute calls sometimes completely across the continent to maintain service during heavy loads when people called their families on major holiday evenings, when rates dropped.
I was a radio engineer for APS in Arizona back in 1967 after I got out of the USAF. We still used tubes then, but over several years converted to transistor equipment. The old tube equipment was made by RCA and called CW-20 microwave relay. Our system ran all over the state on the mountain tops. You really had to know a lot of different things like snowshoeing and climbing towers (280 ft). Back then we worked by ourselves which was a little dangerous, things have changed a lot now.
The title of this video promised us one thing: “Why America's Forgotten Microwave Skyway Network is still standing.” And after having watched a video which spends 18 minutes reviewing the history of communications, we still don’t know.
They’re still standing because a) no expense was spared constructing them and b) because they are typically too costly to demolish or dismantle. Some sites have been repurposed for cellular or muncipal communication, WISPs etc
I'm curious where you found the term "Skyways"? Every website and document I've ever seen on the AT&T microwave network referred to them as the "Long Lines".
Long Lines was a branch of AT&T Bell System. It connected the various local companies to each other and internationally. It also carried network radio and TV programs across the country. I worked for them in the analog days into the fiber and digital days. It was discontinued by the court ordered divestiture, and its functions absorbed into AT&T.
@hugh007 Me too. Long Lines 1966-1984, retired 1997, back as a result of TCG purchase (renamed ATT Local, then retired again in 2016. My job as a Craftsman was at NR, the TVOC at 32 AOTA.
As someone who worked at MCI for a number of years, I can appreciate this video. However, there was no mention of MCI. Who contributed much to microwave communications. They also won their case against AT&T, thereby breaking up that monopoly. Also, no mention of Hedy Lamarr, whose work contributed to telecommunications.
As a member of the analog age I can attest that making a phone call 40 years ago was almost exactly the same as today on your pocket computer. We just had to remember the numbers and dial them
a few notes- AT&T sold all of their towers, including cell. Many of these are retrofitted with cell antennas. Many were built to withstand hurricanes, power outages and floods so they will likely still be around for 50 more years. MCI started off as Microwave Communications, INC and also had network of these. Microwaves are point-to-point, so the curvature of the earth limits their distance depending on height of dishes (which reduces reliability), elevations of site and of course anything in the way, even trees.
I have been to a site with its building still standing after the Washington IL EF 4. I can certainly say that the whole being resistant to hurricanes is and strong weather is right.
Clickbait..the video has literally nothing to do with the title until the last minute or so….the title should be “ History of telecommunications in the US.
I remember having a farmer dig up a 50K pair cable that was at the time the main trunk between Edmonton and Calgary (not his fault, the location was not marked properly, a discrepancy between planned and 'as built'). service was rerouted via the nearest microwave tower but it didn't have the same capacity. Some poor outside plant guys spent many hours in a wet muddy field under a tent splicing it back together. That tower is still standing, hosting many cell antennas. Fibre replaced the copper long ago.
The horn antennas shown at 10:45, 11:13 and 11:33 did collect microwave transmissions, however, these were used for astronomy and satellite communications, not for early terrestrial communications experiments. The one shown at 10:45 is the Holmdel Horn Antenna in NJ which is now a national landmark. It was instrumental in the discovery of the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation (CMBR) which is a key piece of supporting evidence of the Big Bang theory
Holmdell was also the US station for Telstar, the very first “live” communications satellite. The other station was in Goonhillie (so) Down in Scotland. I recall seeing the first live telecast from Europe.
Everything you said is true, but you missed a detail. Marconi's 1901 transmission was transatlantic, but it did not originate in Newfoundland. It originated in Wellfleet, MA on Cape Cod where Marconi build his station to send radio messages across the Atlantic. Newfoundland was suppose to just be a relay station, but when the message was first sent it was found to be going directly to Cornwall and bypassing the Newfoundland station.
I don't disagree but what he says is misleading. It shows he clearly does not understand much of what he's talking about as if he only read it from various internet websites and created his narration therefrom. See my lengthy comment (above) for details.
Railway semaphores weren't used in the way that is suggested in the video, as in sending individual letters to be decoded further down the line. The telegraph, once it was introduced, was used to transmit complex native-language messages, initially via morse code. Railway semaphore signals were more equivalent to street traffic lights. They were signals to the train drivers to tell them the status of the track ahead of them and had only a few aspects that roughly equate to Stop, Caution and Go. Generally, there was one pole for each track approaching the signal gantry, with multiple semaphore arms for tracks that had points for diverging routes.
The horn antenna at 11:24 doesn’t and never did have anything to do with communications or telephone. It is a horn antenna at the Green Bank Observatory in Green Bank, WVA and was used for radio astronomy purposes. It was used to detect clouds of hydrogen in outer space. It is still there, but hasn’t been used for many years (like most of the rest of their antennas). Last time I walked up to the horn, it was covered in overgrown vegetation and simply rotting away. 😩
This is an excellent upload! Brings me back to a time when the "Great Monstrosity" ruled our skyline, a 300-foot microwave tower, back in the 1970s, in the town I grew up in Florida. Every time I went by it, I knew one day I would be working for the Bell System. Upon graduation from high school in 1984, I decided that my skills and knowledge would be well enough to apply for an apprentice installer's position, and sure enough, I interviewed for an opening and was hired on the spot. I worked there until 1989, when I was hired by AT&T and stayed there for 15 years when I decided to enter college. Needless to say the old microwave tower was by then just a skeleton of what it once was...but this video reminded of the "good old days" of the Bell System and the job I used to do. THANK YOU!!
Very cool video. In 1982 I hired on with RCA as a tech working on the Missile Test Project, We supported, microwave, submarine cable and HF/VHF as well as a new Satcom link for uploading and transmitting data from the Shuttle and other USAF/USN space projects I got to work up and down the range before they closed majority of the sites. It was fun, hard work, harder partying, great people that had a get it done work ethic. I feel so blessed to have been involved.
Microwave transmissions are still used in the telecommunications systems in the USA today. My own office has to separate microwave links on the roof at two different frequency bands which provides our internet and phone connections to the outside world. Many cell towers are connected to the rest of the world via microwave, especially in rural areas. And for awhile we were using microwave-linked Aerostats (blimps) for cell and internet service on Fort Myers Beach after Cat 5 Hurricane Ian completely destroyed the phone & cable cos in the area.
these were also known and the long lines and they were used more than just for phones they were also used in the broadcasting industry too for news and the government also used these as back up comms. Also the majority of these sites had bunkers for the equipment that was bomb proof. As far as I know there is a tower in the St Cloud mn area as well as the one on top of the Qwest building in downtown Mpls.
I’ve decommissioned these towers. Climbed towers for 10 years and it was pretty rare they (AT&T) would have us take these (the horn antennas) down. Back In the beginning they used to let you keep the scrap and holy cow you could get like $25K just from the metal. It was great. If you’re into tower history I recommend you check out the old network from the “H Towers.” It was a line of H shaped towers that ran across the US and I believe it was one of the first microwave networks (and I believe it was used for military activities) even predating the AT&T horn antennas. Tower history is absolutely fascinating. To this day if you visit a tower site that is way up in the mountains and hard to access, a lot of that equipment is still there.
If I remember correctly, the H towers were 2 guyed towers with a bridge at the top as a mount for the parabolic antennas. These were operated by Western Union. Long Lines towers were almost always self-supporting. (Part of the Cold War design principles.)
One of my Dad's brothers worked for the telephone company in rural western PA. He said that aligning the microwave transmitters and receivers between two widely separated towers could be quite an ordeal.
Yes, that is the microwave tower atop AT&T's switching center. It was the tallest structure in that part of town before Bunker Hill was redeveloped with the big skyscrapers in the 1980s. I always thought it was so odd & mysterious when I was a little kid.
I'm a Radio Communications technician part time in California, I see these Long Lines all over the place on many sites I work, many of them were taken down and replaced with MotoTRBO system on DMR, also Ham Radio Operators also placed their systems in the same tower that AT&T had. On Mount Diablo, the whole site of Long Lines were all removed and replaced with some more DMR systems and P-25 Digital systems. I believe they removed them on Diablo in 1999.
In 1979, I was an enlisted soldier in the US Army, trained as a radio operator / teletype operator / - it was called MOS O5C at the time. Part of that job was called radio relay - we had line-of-site radio sets and we would receive a message from one direction and retransmit it in the opposite direction, basically performing the same function as one station on the old semaphore-relay network.
Part of the first coast to coast link went south of my town. The concrete tower still stands, but is out of service. The gentleman who owns the site now said that the concrete towers were so well built and reinforced that they were cost prohibitive to demolish, so they were abandoned in place.
I actually have a relative who worked for Bell Labs, as a matter of fact he invented micro mirror switching technology for fiber optics. Basically it’s where cables connect from what I understand and where the signal needs redirecting from connection to connection. Anyway, this video was extremely informative I thought and I’ve seen several of these towers before with the horns on them and always wondered about them
I grew up on a farm up the Ridge from one of those. They decommissioned it a number of years back. The horns disappeared as it was dismantled. One if my father's late co-workers had a cabin a few hundred yards from the tower. He used to use ham radio to make contacts around the world.
Wow ... Mind Blown! ... Rest in peace Corning. We loved Corningware and i had no idea (Probably forgot) that Corning had so much to do with the development of fiber optics. I still remember getting my Popular science magazine in the mail in the 1980's as a young teen talking about how amazing fiber optics was but at the time in 1984 (My best guess) it was mainly used for decorations and toys.
Corning is far from dead, it is alive and kicking, bringing glass to a lot of areas of modern technology. For instance, guess who developed the high resistance glass used for smartphone screens, a.k.a. gorilla glass? You guessed it!
I miss Corning’s art glass maker Steuben Glass very much. Some of their pieces were legendary like the Nautilus. As a child my family and I took a tour of Corning Glass in the early sixties and it was mind blowing ( along with glass blowing .)
@@boardnski156 I will give you some time to catch up... unless some other company came along and bought them out in the last 7 days... i think we have to bid farewell the the great, historic company of our past... I have no information on Steuben glass
Not sure why anyone thinks Corning is dead. I was meeting with their Board regarding negotiations on Fiber Optic lines for our broadband project that was about 20 million in budget and they were very well positioned to assist. They may not make kitchenware but they are doing pretty well in the internet and communications markets.
There is actually one of these towers not to far from me, what amazes me is I still see people up there on a semi regular basis doing maintenance. While it doesn't seem like it is currently active, I do wonder if it is kept in operating state for an emergency backup for critical communications.
Many of the towers do have secondary transmitters on them for various reasons and customers. The only reason the horn antennas remain is the excessive cost to remove them. Many other TH-cam videos of the interior of the transmission buildings show they have had all their original equipment removed.
I live in northern Ohio and I have always wondered what those towers were! I had theorized that perhaps an inter-war radar facility but had no proof. Ive examined the Castalia, Birmingham, and Lorain towers but have never gotten inside. Thank you for explaining what the towers are and their function!
@@Iamdarthplague then tell @iriquoispliskin7185 where it is... that's what he asked for, just saying "it's birmingham" doesn't answer "where can i go to see it?"
Unfortunately, there are still people and sources who credit Marconi. This is similar to people who think of Edison as a great scientist or inventor. While he did develop and patent many things, in my opinion Edison was a hack and a promoter.
For those NOT from that era it worthwhile reviewing the history. After all this is a HISTORY channel. I appreciate the time taken to prepare this. Most people today don’t even know how smart phones work.
Great documentary! Always good to know how we got to where we are. The progress we've attained in and what was achieved in implementing such scientific discoveries into our every day lives from their humble roots as just what began as bemusings, wonderings and thoughts of really visionary individuals brought to the forefront is very interesting.
I vaguely remember the commercials for, I believe it was US Sprint - "Calls so quiet you can hear a pin drop." I only assume it was because of the noise of the microwave link vs a fiber link. Pretty wild, microwave was king,... then almost overnight - obsolete.
This was an awesome video in that a mile from my house in Sun Prairie WI is one of these towers! I always wondered what it was, thinking it had something to do with Traux Field airport in Madison. It's one of those things it has been there so long you overlook it. Checking it out after the video a lot of the micro receivers are gone but newer receiver arrays have replaced them. Great video!
We had a microwave tower on the AT&T building in White Plains, NY. It was the tallest structure there back then. The long lines amateur radio club, WA2CWP, was an HF and repeater location which an amateur friend, who worked there showed us the station and repeater there, 146.775 in 1987. It even had auto patch for phone calls via the repeater until that ended with cell service. Years ago, on shortwave, I heard a broadcast from AT&T on the air, that it was a point to point broadcast from AT&T in Puerto Rico. W2CH Ray Peekskill New York. 😊
There was a small one of those towers in my small rural town in the 1960s. It was around 60' high with small satellite dishes around it. It was on a small plot surrounded by an 8" chainlink fence and had a metal box that went into the ground. Growing up during the cold war we always thought it was a missle emplacement. Maybe it was one of these. 🤔
I recall seeing an array of these huge antennas on top of a building in Portland, Oregon a few years ago. Always assumed they were for radio or TV. Never would've thought they were for telephones.
We used to see these towers in the middle of towns here in the South. I guess they were connecting the Central Offices of Ma Bell. My father became a telecomm tech at some point before he left the USAF. He contracted to do telecom work and we lived in Iran in the 70s when a microwave system was setup to relay between the "listening posts" at the edge of the Soviet border down to Bandar Abbas in the Persian Gulf. There were many sites in remote, dangerous areas. Later he worked for Datran which competed with Ma Bell here in the states with a system of towers between Washington, DC and Houston. I got to see some of the equipment in the buildings. It was later when I became a tech that I learned more about what was really going on with these systems and the digital data transferred via the Datran system. I think the Datran system was later sold to Sprint.
I have a Map of the system from 1960 and its way more than 100 Towers, its thousands!. They were spaced every 30-40 miles across the US. most abandoned or sold off to tower companies that lease to cell providers> Fiber has replaced most of them.
Homing pigeons were used for carrying messages. Carrier pigeons were hunted for their colorful feathers which were used on hats etc., and eventually all were killed.
Interesting video! This network of towers was also known as ATT Long Lines. There’s one in a rural location not too far from where we live. It’s a very interesting installation that was definitely built to last. The horn antennas are still on the tower, and appear intact. All the copper feed lines have been removed. The tower has been retrofitted with an assortment of cellular antennas. The sign on the building reads American Towers, LLC the current owner.
Man those old microwaves were still in service in the late 90s. The wave guides always reminded me of the kitchen microwave ovens. We were just putting up repeaters on towers with the old school wave guides that resemble a steampunk cornacopia. Lol
Im 56 and i literally grew up in the best era. I had old school lifestyle and now, all the instant "luxuries" of whats going on today with technology. Not to mention the music we all grew up with!
The problem with ATT Skyways is that it work on line of sight which means another tower had to be built every 30 miles due to curvature of the earth. The Troposcatter link system is by pointing microwave signal at the right angle towards the sky, it would bounce off a layer in the atmosphere and could travel 200 miles. This is what was used in Alaska and Canada. And if you’re wondering how big invention fiber optic is, the entire capacity of the ATT Skyway infrastructure can be sent over one strand of a fiber optic cable.
Florida City, FL and Guanabo, Cuba are connected by a two pairs of troposcatter antennas, for telephone and basic TV channels. Both troposcatter stations are still standing, but not in use. I have a much more in depth comment on here about the sites with GPS coordinates and I mention 'White Alice' in Alaska and Canada
Awesome Video!!!! An microwave relay tower that was at the AT&T office building in Downtown Rockford Illinois was torn down. The white strobe during the day and red flashing light at night can be seen quite an distance and I used it as an landmark. Now two new radio repeater towers was put up by the railroads in the rail yards and their white strobes / red flashing LED lights now can be seen.
As someone who operates a WISP, I was always mesmerized with that tower at the top of Topanga (I grew up in Southern California). I always wanted to buy it and turn it into a funky home, and central base of my operations!
I actually work at an underground bunker for AT&T. It’s still owned and operated by AT&T. It was built back in the early 60s during the Cold War era. Although it does not use communication microwave anymore (obviously) it does still a decent bit of fiber and telephone equipment.
Actually it was how your congress critters sucked up to AT&T. It was based on the LATA system. Every time your call passed through another system you paid fees and charges. Gainesville to Orlando passed through 7 such exchanges.
Vast numbers of these "relay" towers were purchased by companies such as American Tower which is a Communications tower rental company that primarily leases space on towers to the cellular carriers.
I remember seeing a microwave array on the corner of our ATT building in downtown Houston and always wondered what they were when i was growing up. I'll have to revisit the the area and see it's still there.
Btw, signal flags are still used in the military particularly the Navy. How else to communicate during communication blackouts where any type of electronic signal is a dead giveaway.
i think that this piece was unnecessarily confusing, mixing the history of wireless communication with long distance data transmission. The microwave network was built to provide a cheaper alternative to copper transmission cables for long distance trunk lines. They fell out of use because of 2 reasons, fiber optic cables and to a lesser extent satellite. The rise of microwave might be linked to the development of high frequency radio tech for radar during WW2 because that produced the amplifiers and receivers for microwave communication that made Skyway Network possible.
There is one in the state park in my village in NY, and in the last 10 years years the removed the equipment from the top, but the tower is still abandon. Making it a viewing tower for the park I fell is best for this one.
Cool video,, learned something, thanks. There is an abandoned microwave tower on Blue Mountain that I like to hike to. Incredible view from the top. Got to climb it in winter though, otherwise it's a giant wasps nest.
It’s amazing how technology has advanced for long distance communication. Today we have the ability to communicate and command spacecrafts launched over 40 years ago and traveling beyond our solar system.
Although fibre optics go back a long way, no one seems to have realised that it was only following the Roswell incident in 1947, we miraculously discovered that by using pulsed light, they could transmit data. To this day, no one on this planet has claimed to have INVENTED the system.
In my home town in southern Illinois there is an AT&T Central Office that had a microwave tower on the top of the building. Back in 2014/2015 AT&T removed the tower because it was no longer using it and it was getting too costly to maintain. It was interesting watching crews take it down and scrap the steel and receivers.
There's one of these in my city. When I was a kid, I was told it's a radio antenna for transmitting music from the station to peoples' receivers. The tower is old and I never thought it was part of a microwave communications network. The building its attached to is still being used by AT&T, but I wonder now if the tower itself is abandoned or still in use. It doesn't look like it's seen a fresh coat of paint in years.
I live near the I-80 corridor in Ohio. My high school was/is located about a mile from one of these towers. I always remember looking off in the distance trying to understand why it looked so much different than all the modern cell phone towers. We use to pretend that it actually contained a hidden ICBM missile. The interesting thing about the towers in my area, they are made entirely from local sandstone quarried out of the earth. As far as I know the towers are still in use today with new updated antenna gear, not sure what types of signals they transmit.
A side note for you, the toll free 800 area code resulted from a military contract with AT&T to provide secure high-speed communications between bases. The deal was the military paid for all 800 numbers but only used a set potion of them, and the leftover numbers could be used by AT&T as they chose, thus the 1-800 toll free system is (or was) military subsidized.
Haven't been able to watch the video yet, as of writing this comment, but know that there is an old AT&T Long Lines microwave tower on US 24 highway East of Dover, MO.
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Thumbs down for having a sponsor and many more if I could for the low life act of interrupting your content to spew garbage. Welcome to ranks of garbage youtubers!
I can't believe you left out Cher Ami on the carrier pigeon part, or the Carrington Event on the telegraph, or the Japanese Ku-Go “Death Ray” weapon, or the Transatlantic telegraph cable, or the Transatlantic communications cable, or even the Moscow-Washington hotline and there are several others but I guess you would lose the attention of the audience. Oh and the "Talkies".
So why ARE unused microwave towers still standing? Too much money to take them down? Or left up as potential backup if some future crisis occurs? Or planned to be re-purposed for something else?
@@Charlie-Oooooo Too much money to take them down and some are planned to be re-purposed for something else.
@@ChristianConservativ thank you for replying sir. They sure did build them to last!
As somebody who to this day works on microwave networks.....these are still in use by hundreds of entities in the US alone. They are used in places where laying fiber optic cables would be cost prohibitive or is flat out not allowed (through national parks, etc). This equipment is still manufactured and progressing and is now capable of supporting speeds up to 10Gbps.
I design word docs for circuits using them sometimes and I hate them lol. They're inventoried in our TIRKS database in all kinds of bullshit ways and we basically have to get told by an engineer a carrier we need to use is some microwave between mountains XD
@@Emily_M81 They function great, but we do all our own documentation in house lol. Hybrid circuits are always a PITA though, I much prefer pure microwave networks overall. As soon as you start introducing fiber inbetween on the circuits it gets way too messy and complicated (from a monitoring standpoint).
I've worked many cell sites linked on mw.
I live in the desert west of Nevada, grew up in Idaho. Yes. Many of these are still in use. Some are now smaller than they used to be. I am now an ham radio operator. We use similar microwave radios to jump from mountain to mountain for our repeater network. Telecoms still use these older system.
How good do those e-band links handle rain?
I worked for a WISP before owning my own. We used one of these in a rural South Louisiana area. Truly remarkable how NO expense was spared in every facet. I had the pleasure of talking for 45minutes with an older Gent that managed this Long Lines Site. These were an overlooked factor in this Nation's infrastructure.
much like the concrete arrows for the early airmail......
When I was born in 1961, Dad took a job with a team that service, upgraded, and installed new Skyway towers. It was one of several teams. Teams had to live in travel trailers of a maximum length, so they could drive in any state by day or night. We were always moving from one tower to another. The teams became VERY close knit. Even after Dad quit when I started school, he kept in touch with old team members for decades.
Nice story. I think the social aspect of government projects is one of the most undervalued benefits they often bring. The relationships forged during these projects are still paying off till this day. Just the Apollo program alone is still paying back this country. Traveling as a youngster must have been quite the adventure during that time period.
My father worked on these, not on site but tuning things in the office. We'd go on a road trip and he knew every tower would be on I-80...
Our Godfather, Robert Shennum, invented Digital with his lab partner while working for Bell Labs. Shennum's unrelated 1954 PhD thesis from Caltech is avail online. Later, Digital Patent owned by AT&T on embedded code multiplex switching credits Shennum and Leonard as co-inventors. "Digital" was coined later.
@@toomanyuseridsmy dad was in the actual relay area. He later managed the long distance switching systems. He was always at work during the holidays. He would reroute calls sometimes completely across the continent to maintain service during heavy loads when people called their families on major holiday evenings, when rates dropped.
I was a radio engineer for APS in Arizona back in 1967 after I got out of the USAF. We still used tubes then, but over several years converted to transistor equipment. The old tube equipment was made by RCA and called CW-20 microwave relay. Our system ran all over the state on the mountain tops. You really had to know a lot of different things like snowshoeing and climbing towers (280 ft). Back then we worked by ourselves which was a little dangerous, things have changed a lot now.
The title of this video promised us one thing: “Why America's Forgotten Microwave Skyway Network is still standing.” And after having watched a video which spends 18 minutes reviewing the history of communications, we still don’t know.
They’re still standing because a) no expense was spared constructing them and b) because they are typically too costly to demolish or dismantle. Some sites have been repurposed for cellular or muncipal communication, WISPs etc
I was wondering the same thing. I hate being click-baited and won't be watching anything else from this guy.
Just saved me some time. 👍
Thanks for saving me from wasting my time.
He said cause it was built into building designs. Another words not easily removed, so they're just left alone.
I'm curious where you found the term "Skyways"? Every website and document I've ever seen on the AT&T microwave network referred to them as the "Long Lines".
Long Lines was a branch of AT&T Bell System. It connected the various local companies to each other and internationally. It also carried network radio and TV programs across the country. I worked for them in the analog days into the fiber and digital days. It was discontinued by the court ordered divestiture, and its functions absorbed into AT&T.
Trans Canada Skyway is what Bell Canada called the system
yup the correct name is AT&T Long Lines NOT skyway
@hugh007 Me too. Long Lines 1966-1984, retired 1997, back as a result of TCG purchase (renamed ATT Local, then retired again in 2016. My job as a Craftsman was at NR, the TVOC at 32 AOTA.
As someone who worked at MCI for a number of years, I can appreciate this video. However, there was no mention of MCI. Who contributed much to microwave communications. They also won their case against AT&T, thereby breaking up that monopoly. Also, no mention of Hedy Lamarr, whose work contributed to telecommunications.
"That's Hedley" - Mel Brooks
@@grayrabbit2211 I love Mel Brooks, but I hate that he turned that highly accomplished woman into a punchline.
@@Johnny_Socko That punchline made me look up who the real person was and I was quite amazed. I don't think she gets enough recognition.
MCI, as in Micro Communications Inc? With offices in Manchester, NH at Grenier Field? If so, you may have worked with my dad, Walter.
MCI huh, wow that’s a name I haven’t heard in many many many years. That and cellular one, I even remember the jingle. 😂.
As a member of the analog age I can attest that making a phone call 40 years ago was almost exactly the same as today on your pocket computer. We just had to remember the numbers and dial them
Pocket computer. Never heard cell phones be called that
Often had way better connections back then. Way more reliable
@@thatyoutubeguy7583"handheld computer with telephony"
I remember that my grandpa had a pocket calculator that could be programmed to hold names and phone numbers. I thought it was the coolest thing ever.
I call it a pocket computer too
Ps: Kudos to this comment section, it has tons of information on these towers not covered by Ryan. Good Work Guys! 👍
a few notes-
AT&T sold all of their towers, including cell.
Many of these are retrofitted with cell antennas.
Many were built to withstand hurricanes, power outages and floods so they will likely still be around for 50 more years.
MCI started off as Microwave Communications, INC and also had network of these.
Microwaves are point-to-point, so the curvature of the earth limits their distance depending on height of dishes (which reduces reliability), elevations of site and of course anything in the way, even trees.
I have been to a site with its building still standing after the Washington IL EF 4. I can certainly say that the whole being resistant to hurricanes is and strong weather is right.
It’s always been my understanding that the original ATT microwave tower network connected military bases across the US to communication hubs.
Clickbait..the video has literally nothing to do with the title until the last minute or so….the title should be “ History of telecommunications in the US.
@@dominicm2175 I had hoped for more discussions about the towers themselves, freqs used, Traveling wave tubes, yada yada
I remember having a farmer dig up a 50K pair cable that was at the time the main trunk between Edmonton and Calgary (not his fault, the location was not marked properly, a discrepancy between planned and 'as built'). service was rerouted via the nearest microwave tower but it didn't have the same capacity. Some poor outside plant guys spent many hours in a wet muddy field under a tent splicing it back together. That tower is still standing, hosting many cell antennas. Fibre replaced the copper long ago.
The horn antennas shown at 10:45, 11:13 and 11:33 did collect microwave transmissions, however, these were used for astronomy and satellite communications, not for early terrestrial communications experiments. The one shown at 10:45 is the Holmdel Horn Antenna in NJ which is now a national landmark. It was instrumental in the discovery of the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation (CMBR) which is a key piece of supporting evidence of the Big Bang theory
Big bang is false … the dishes were comms systems … they date back to the 30s when wireless was being tested by the agency.
Wave guides, sorry it was my thing 😢
Dr Penzias CMBR noise.
True
Holmdell was also the US station for Telstar, the very first “live” communications satellite. The other station was in Goonhillie (so) Down in Scotland. I recall seeing the first live telecast from Europe.
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Everything you said is true, but you missed a detail. Marconi's 1901 transmission was transatlantic, but it did not originate in Newfoundland. It originated in Wellfleet, MA on Cape Cod where Marconi build his station to send radio messages across the Atlantic. Newfoundland was suppose to just be a relay station, but when the message was first sent it was found to be going directly to Cornwall and bypassing the Newfoundland station.
I don't disagree but what he says is misleading. It shows he clearly does not understand much of what he's talking about as if he only read it from various internet websites and created his narration therefrom. See my lengthy comment (above) for details.
Railway semaphores weren't used in the way that is suggested in the video, as in sending individual letters to be decoded further down the line. The telegraph, once it was introduced, was used to transmit complex native-language messages, initially via morse code. Railway semaphore signals were more equivalent to street traffic lights. They were signals to the train drivers to tell them the status of the track ahead of them and had only a few aspects that roughly equate to Stop, Caution and Go. Generally, there was one pole for each track approaching the signal gantry, with multiple semaphore arms for tracks that had points for diverging routes.
Nevertheless, the fact that they were handed down to a different industry (railroads) is a valid point.
The horn antenna at 11:24 doesn’t and never did have anything to do with communications or telephone. It is a horn antenna at the Green Bank Observatory in Green Bank, WVA and was used for radio astronomy purposes. It was used to detect clouds of hydrogen in outer space. It is still there, but hasn’t been used for many years (like most of the rest of their antennas). Last time I walked up to the horn, it was covered in overgrown vegetation and simply rotting away. 😩
This is an excellent upload! Brings me back to a time when the "Great Monstrosity" ruled our skyline, a 300-foot microwave tower, back in the 1970s, in the town I grew up in Florida. Every time I went by it, I knew one day I would be working for the Bell System. Upon graduation from high school in 1984, I decided that my skills and knowledge would be well enough to apply for an apprentice installer's position, and sure enough, I interviewed for an opening and was hired on the spot. I worked there until 1989, when I was hired by AT&T and stayed there for 15 years when I decided to enter college. Needless to say the old microwave tower was by then just a skeleton of what it once was...but this video reminded of the "good old days" of the Bell System and the job I used to do. THANK YOU!!
Very cool video. In 1982 I hired on with RCA as a tech working on the Missile Test Project, We supported, microwave, submarine cable and HF/VHF as well as a new Satcom link for uploading and transmitting data from the Shuttle and other USAF/USN space projects I got to work up and down the range before they closed majority of the sites. It was fun, hard work, harder partying, great people that had a get it done work ethic. I feel so blessed to have been involved.
The “operator “ on Rowan and Martin Laugh In. Ernestine “One Ringy dingy. Two ringy dingies.”
Ernestine as played by Lily Tomlin 😉
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@@glennso47 that was always one of my favorite skits on that show 🙂
" Is this the party to whom I am speaking?"
Microwave transmissions are still used in the telecommunications systems in the USA today. My own office has to separate microwave links on the roof at two different frequency bands which provides our internet and phone connections to the outside world.
Many cell towers are connected to the rest of the world via microwave, especially in rural areas.
And for awhile we were using microwave-linked Aerostats (blimps) for cell and internet service on Fort Myers Beach after Cat 5 Hurricane Ian completely destroyed the phone & cable cos in the area.
Also literally your homes WiFi router is a microwave transceiver for 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz.
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these were also known and the long lines and they were used more than just for phones they were also used in the broadcasting industry too for news and the government also used these as back up comms. Also the majority of these sites had bunkers for the equipment that was bomb proof. As far as I know there is a tower in the St Cloud mn area as well as the one on top of the Qwest building in downtown Mpls.
Semaphore is still used in US Navy. At least one signalman is required on every ship.
Actually lots of these tower are still in use. It's for rural wireless internet providers.
I’ve decommissioned these towers. Climbed towers for 10 years and it was pretty rare they (AT&T) would have us take these (the horn antennas) down. Back In the beginning they used to let you keep the scrap and holy cow you could get like $25K just from the metal. It was great. If you’re into tower history I recommend you check out the old network from the “H Towers.” It was a line of H shaped towers that ran across the US and I believe it was one of the first microwave networks (and I believe it was used for military activities) even predating the AT&T horn antennas. Tower history is absolutely fascinating. To this day if you visit a tower site that is way up in the mountains and hard to access, a lot of that equipment is still there.
If I remember correctly, the H towers were 2 guyed towers with a bridge at the top as a mount for the parabolic antennas. These were operated by Western Union. Long Lines towers were almost always self-supporting. (Part of the Cold War design principles.)
One of my Dad's brothers worked for the telephone company in rural western PA. He said that aligning the microwave transmitters and receivers between two widely separated towers could be quite an ordeal.
I still don't know how you didn't say the words "Long Lines" once in this video.
For decades I've wondered what that odd extremity on top of that building in downtown Los Angeles is. Thank you for solving a long standing riddle.
Yes, that is the microwave tower atop AT&T's switching center. It was the tallest structure in that part of town before Bunker Hill was redeveloped with the big skyscrapers in the 1980s. I always thought it was so odd & mysterious when I was a little kid.
I'm a Radio Communications technician part time in California, I see these Long Lines all over the place on many sites I work, many of them were taken down and replaced with MotoTRBO system on DMR, also Ham Radio Operators also placed their systems in the same tower that AT&T had.
On Mount Diablo, the whole site of Long Lines were all removed and replaced with some more DMR systems and P-25 Digital systems.
I believe they removed them on Diablo in 1999.
In 1979, I was an enlisted soldier in the US Army, trained as a radio operator / teletype operator / - it was called MOS O5C at the time.
Part of that job was called radio relay - we had line-of-site radio sets and we would receive a message from one direction and retransmit it in the opposite direction, basically performing the same function as one station on the old semaphore-relay network.
That's a long way around to explain AT&Ts Long Line system.
What is that?
Part of the first coast to coast link went south of my town. The concrete tower still stands, but is out of service. The gentleman who owns the site now said that the concrete towers were so well built and reinforced that they were cost prohibitive to demolish, so they were abandoned in place.
I actually have a relative who worked for Bell Labs, as a matter of fact he invented micro mirror switching technology for fiber optics. Basically it’s where cables connect from what I understand and where the signal needs redirecting from connection to connection. Anyway, this video was extremely informative I thought and I’ve seen several of these towers before with the horns on them and always wondered about them
Most news vans had remote microwave transmitters and that is how they did remote across town live broadcasts.
Still do. But we tend to use cell-based backpacks now.
I grew up on a farm up the Ridge from one of those. They decommissioned it a number of years back. The horns disappeared as it was dismantled. One if my father's late co-workers had a cabin a few hundred yards from the tower. He used to use ham radio to make contacts around the world.
It's nice for you to share history that I lived through. I'm amazed sometimes that young people have no idea about things I take for granted.
People still don't know Jack about telephone etiquette. Even businesses, they ask who you are before they introduce themselves....
Wow ... Mind Blown! ... Rest in peace Corning. We loved Corningware and i had no idea (Probably forgot) that Corning had so much to do with the development of fiber optics. I still remember getting my Popular science magazine in the mail in the 1980's as a young teen talking about how amazing fiber optics was but at the time in 1984 (My best guess) it was mainly used for decorations and toys.
Corning is far from dead, it is alive and kicking, bringing glass to a lot of areas of modern technology. For instance, guess who developed the high resistance glass used for smartphone screens, a.k.a. gorilla glass? You guessed it!
I miss Corning’s art glass maker Steuben Glass very much. Some of their pieces were legendary like the Nautilus. As a child my family and I took a tour of Corning Glass in the early sixties and it was mind blowing ( along with glass blowing .)
Corning Inc. is very much alive. Steuben glass is still a thing too.
@@boardnski156 I will give you some time to catch up... unless some other company came along and bought them out in the last 7 days... i think we have to bid farewell the the great, historic company of our past... I have no information on Steuben glass
Not sure why anyone thinks Corning is dead. I was meeting with their Board regarding negotiations on Fiber Optic lines for our broadband project that was about 20 million in budget and they were very well positioned to assist. They may not make kitchenware but they are doing pretty well in the internet and communications markets.
There is actually one of these towers not to far from me, what amazes me is I still see people up there on a semi regular basis doing maintenance. While it doesn't seem like it is currently active, I do wonder if it is kept in operating state for an emergency backup for critical communications.
Many of the towers do have secondary transmitters on them for various reasons and customers. The only reason the horn antennas remain is the excessive cost to remove them. Many other TH-cam videos of the interior of the transmission buildings show they have had all their original equipment removed.
Holy cow! I live right by one of these things and I didn't even know!
I live in northern Ohio and I have always wondered what those towers were! I had theorized that perhaps an inter-war radar facility but had no proof. Ive examined the Castalia, Birmingham, and Lorain towers but have never gotten inside. Thank you for explaining what the towers are and their function!
If you search AT&T long lines you’ll find a wealth of information about these microwave towers.
You said there's one in Lorain? Where at? I'm near there and I'd love to take a look
@@iriquoispliskin7185 its technically Birmingham.
@@Iamdarthplague then tell @iriquoispliskin7185 where it is... that's what he asked for, just saying "it's birmingham" doesn't answer "where can i go to see it?"
@@iriquoispliskin7185 41.415230, -82.144528 good luck, as of 2021 it's hiding behind the tree line
The Qwest building (Now Century Link Building) Had the antennas removed about 4 years ago.
Tesla was recognized as the inventor of radio by the US supreme Court.
Unfortunately, there are still people and sources who credit Marconi. This is similar to people who think of Edison as a great scientist or inventor. While he did develop and patent many things, in my opinion Edison was a hack and a promoter.
Murgas who was an early radio pioneer should be mentioned more too.
I loved the picture at 3:33 that ostensibly showed an antique phone -- with pushbuttons. . . LoL
For those NOT from that era it worthwhile reviewing the history. After all this is a HISTORY channel. I appreciate the time taken to prepare this. Most people today don’t even know how smart phones work.
Great documentary! Always good to know how we got to where we are. The progress we've attained in and what was achieved in implementing such scientific discoveries into our every day lives from their humble roots as just what began as bemusings, wonderings and thoughts of really visionary individuals brought to the forefront is very interesting.
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These “forgotten” microwave towers need to be used as a plot element and setting of a post-apocalypse sci-fi flick!
I vaguely remember the commercials for, I believe it was US Sprint - "Calls so quiet you can hear a pin drop." I only assume it was because of the noise of the microwave link vs a fiber link. Pretty wild, microwave was king,... then almost overnight - obsolete.
This was an awesome video in that a mile from my house in Sun Prairie WI is one of these towers! I always wondered what it was, thinking it had something to do with Traux Field airport in Madison. It's one of those things it has been there so long you overlook it. Checking it out after the video a lot of the micro receivers are gone but newer receiver arrays have replaced them. Great video!
I love looking fot these towers whenever I travel somewhere new. I'm fortunate to be able to see a massive one from my place of work in Milford, MI.
We had a microwave tower on
the AT&T building in White Plains, NY.
It was the tallest structure there back then.
The long lines amateur radio
club, WA2CWP, was an HF and
repeater location which an
amateur friend, who worked
there showed us the station
and repeater there, 146.775
in 1987.
It even had auto patch for phone calls via the repeater
until that ended with cell service.
Years ago, on shortwave, I heard a broadcast from AT&T
on the air, that it was a point
to point broadcast from AT&T
in Puerto Rico.
W2CH Ray Peekskill New York. 😊
14 minutes of telecommunications history, 4 minutes about the actual microwave skyway. 😕
There was a small one of those towers in my small rural town in the 1960s. It was around 60' high with small satellite dishes around it. It was on a small plot surrounded by an 8" chainlink fence and had a metal box that went into the ground. Growing up during the cold war we always thought it was a missle emplacement. Maybe it was one of these. 🤔
I recall seeing an array of these huge antennas on top of a building in Portland, Oregon a few years ago.
Always assumed they were for radio or TV.
Never would've thought they were for telephones.
They are likely used for data not just telephones, still in use today with modern capabilities.
The microwave relays system was also used to broadcast TV coast to coast, too.
I don't get into downtown Portland much lately, but I noticed those horn antennas were finally removed a couple years ago.
Jump to 18:05, prior is just history of communications. All worth listening to.
Wonderful! Thanks Ryan!
We used to see these towers in the middle of towns here in the South. I guess they were connecting the Central Offices of Ma Bell. My father became a telecomm tech at some point before he left the USAF. He contracted to do telecom work and we lived in Iran in the 70s when a microwave system was setup to relay between the "listening posts" at the edge of the Soviet border down to Bandar Abbas in the Persian Gulf. There were many sites in remote, dangerous areas. Later he worked for Datran which competed with Ma Bell here in the states with a system of towers between Washington, DC and Houston. I got to see some of the equipment in the buildings. It was later when I became a tech that I learned more about what was really going on with these systems and the digital data transferred via the Datran system. I think the Datran system was later sold to Sprint.
Theyre still in use in many different ways..
From Cell Towers to Railroad companies to pwer substations, etc.
Ive worked on them a good bit
I have a Map of the system from 1960 and its way more than 100 Towers, its thousands!. They were spaced every 30-40 miles across the US. most abandoned or sold off to tower companies that lease to cell providers> Fiber has replaced most of them.
The grandparents did not make wireless phone calls with this system. The calls were land line calls but over long distances...
Homing pigeons were used for carrying messages. Carrier pigeons were hunted for their colorful feathers which were used on hats etc., and eventually all were killed.
I believe you are referring to Pigeons (Ectopistes migratorius) which were extirpated by the end of the 19th century.
Interesting video! This network of towers was also known as ATT Long Lines. There’s one in a rural location not too far from where we live. It’s a very interesting installation that was definitely built to last. The horn antennas are still on the tower, and appear intact. All the copper feed lines have been removed. The tower has been retrofitted with an assortment of cellular antennas. The sign on the building reads American Towers, LLC the current owner.
Man those old microwaves were still in service in the late 90s. The wave guides always reminded me of the kitchen microwave ovens. We were just putting up repeaters on towers with the old school wave guides that resemble a steampunk cornacopia. Lol
Im 56 and i literally grew up in the best era. I had old school lifestyle and now, all the instant "luxuries" of whats going on today with technology. Not to mention the music we all grew up with!
The problem with ATT Skyways is that it work on line of sight which means another tower had to be built every 30 miles due to curvature of the earth.
The Troposcatter link system is by pointing microwave signal at the right angle towards the sky, it would bounce off a layer in the atmosphere and could travel 200 miles. This is what was used in Alaska and Canada. And if you’re wondering how big invention fiber optic is, the entire capacity of the ATT Skyway infrastructure can be sent over one strand of a fiber optic cable.
Florida City, FL and Guanabo, Cuba are connected by a two pairs of troposcatter antennas, for telephone and basic TV channels. Both troposcatter stations are still standing, but not in use. I have a much more in depth comment on here about the sites with GPS coordinates and I mention 'White Alice' in Alaska and Canada
Awesome Video!!!! An microwave relay tower that was at the AT&T office building in Downtown Rockford Illinois was torn down. The white strobe during the day and red flashing light at night can be seen quite an distance and I used it as an landmark. Now two new radio repeater towers was put up by the railroads in the rail yards and their white strobes / red flashing LED lights now can be seen.
Bob Moses did a concert on the top of the tower in Topanga CA. Now I know what the hell that tower was used for.
Thank you for talking about this technology. You did a lot of research and I appreciate it
Thank you for this video. Fascinating!
As someone who operates a WISP, I was always mesmerized with that tower at the top of Topanga (I grew up in Southern California). I always wanted to buy it and turn it into a funky home, and central base of my operations!
Long Lines starts at 10:25
I actually work at an underground bunker for AT&T. It’s still owned and operated by AT&T. It was built back in the early 60s during the Cold War era. Although it does not use communication microwave anymore (obviously) it does still a decent bit of fiber and telephone equipment.
This explains why long distance calls were so expensive. It costs a lot of money to build and maintain that network.
Actually it was how your congress critters sucked up to AT&T. It was based on the LATA system. Every time your call passed through another system you paid fees and charges. Gainesville to Orlando passed through 7 such exchanges.
the system was actually called AT&T Long Lines not skyway
Vast numbers of these "relay" towers were purchased by companies such as American Tower which is a Communications tower rental company that primarily leases space on towers to the cellular carriers.
When i was young i always wondered what these horn like structures with white panels on these towers are, now i know, thanks 🙂
I remember seeing a microwave array on the corner of our ATT building in downtown Houston and always wondered what they were when i was growing up. I'll have to revisit the the area and see it's still there.
Eerie is exactly the right word to use. I was hiking through the Arizona desert and came across one, the closer I got, the stranger I felt.
*Thanks! Converting an abandoned tower into a home would have a great view.*
Btw, signal flags are still used in the military particularly the Navy.
How else to communicate during communication blackouts where any type of electronic signal is a dead giveaway.
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i think that this piece was unnecessarily confusing, mixing the history of wireless communication with long distance data transmission. The microwave network was built to provide a cheaper alternative to copper transmission cables for long distance trunk lines. They fell out of use because of 2 reasons, fiber optic cables and to a lesser extent satellite. The rise of microwave might be linked to the development of high frequency radio tech for radar during WW2 because that produced the amplifiers and receivers for microwave communication that made Skyway Network possible.
@4:32 that's probably not a photo from the USA. I realize it's a stock photo, but as a geeky guy into this kind of stuff, I had to mention.
There is one in the state park in my village in NY, and in the last 10 years years the removed the equipment from the top, but the tower is still abandon. Making it a viewing tower for the park I fell is best for this one.
Cool video,, learned something, thanks. There is an abandoned microwave tower on Blue Mountain that I like to hike to. Incredible view from the top. Got to climb it in winter though, otherwise it's a giant wasps nest.
It’s amazing how technology has advanced for long distance communication. Today we have the ability to communicate and command spacecrafts launched over 40 years ago and traveling beyond our solar system.
you should have mentioned that fiberoptic communication also required the invention of LASER technology to work over long distances.
Although fibre optics go back a long way, no one seems to have realised that it was only following the Roswell incident in 1947, we miraculously discovered that by using pulsed light, they could transmit data.
To this day, no one on this planet has claimed to have INVENTED the system.
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In my home town in southern Illinois there is an AT&T Central Office that had a microwave tower on the top of the building. Back in 2014/2015 AT&T removed the tower because it was no longer using it and it was getting too costly to maintain. It was interesting watching crews take it down and scrap the steel and receivers.
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There's one of these in my city. When I was a kid, I was told it's a radio antenna for transmitting music from the station to peoples' receivers. The tower is old and I never thought it was part of a microwave communications network. The building its attached to is still being used by AT&T, but I wonder now if the tower itself is abandoned or still in use. It doesn't look like it's seen a fresh coat of paint in years.
I live near the I-80 corridor in Ohio. My high school was/is located about a mile from one of these towers. I always remember looking off in the distance trying to understand why it looked so much different than all the modern cell phone towers. We use to pretend that it actually contained a hidden ICBM missile. The interesting thing about the towers in my area, they are made entirely from local sandstone quarried out of the earth. As far as I know the towers are still in use today with new updated antenna gear, not sure what types of signals they transmit.
I remember having to call 'long distance' to a friend that lived 5 miles away. Long distance was a big biz!
I rember seeing these cones all over the place in the 80s and 90s. Wild..!
A side note for you, the toll free 800 area code resulted from a military contract with AT&T to provide secure high-speed communications between bases. The deal was the military paid for all 800 numbers but only used a set potion of them, and the leftover numbers could be used by AT&T as they chose, thus the 1-800 toll free system is (or was) military subsidized.
My Dad was part of the team that designed and set up NY Tel Co microwave relay stations across New York state.
Well done, "It's History"! Excellent presentation!
It’s really quite simple why these structures are still out there, it costs too much to take them down.
Haven't been able to watch the video yet, as of writing this comment, but know that there is an old AT&T Long Lines microwave tower on US 24 highway East of Dover, MO.
AT&T Long Lines
Long lines sites had bunkers and were hardened.