I thought today we'd touch on how the one thing that was created to destroy the Flood entirely doesn't *exactly* do its job. As if the Flood weren't freightening enough already 😂 Hope you guys enjoy! In a few days I should have a video up talking about how Halo Outpost Discovery could be a huge tease for Infinite. Trust me, ya don't wanna miss it :D
HiddenXperia one question in the halo official spartan field manual spartan grant (spartan ops) talks about the banished on page 45 do you think this is a hint to a potential spartan ops sequel in infinite or in a later game?
hope you get better man hey also after you do your doom demons vs flood. you really should look into the Kett from mass effect Andromeda they are a gene stealing race that can convert any biological creature to there race. I would love to see them convert a Flood grave mind into a kett mind using their gene injection.
@@KSI_Revelations nah it exists, i work as security to hospitals, seen people with it, don't want to get any closer to it. and so! please keep safe my people!, and dont start a war over whether or not it exists based on someone's say-so im just putting in what i've seen and heard from my charges.
The flood can "starve" because of the degradation of matter. Inactive flood forms just laying there would degrade over time because of the half lives of the biological matter they're made of, thus they're "starved" for new biological matter to consume and can't continue to propagate. It's kind of like why areas like Chernobyl won't be habitable for hundreds of years as the radioactive matter degrades.
basically they "starve" from a lack of fuel thus leading to the body self cannibalizing to maintain energy or from what he said or both simultaneously.
Even though Chernobyl is actually inhabitable, approx. 2000 people do live and work there officially in the exclusion zone. Most of the washing of buildings and the region did the trick.
master chief: *EXISTS* *flood has left the chat* haloARRAY.exe has stopped working *the covernant has left the chat* *unsc has joined the chat* forerunners: *ight imma head out*
4:19 You forgot to mention that infection forms can jump out of a combat form when it is of no use, like in halo 2 when a combat form loses its arms. So if the infection form is still alive and well, then it can just hop out and find a new host.
That still doesn't excuse the Forerunners for letting flood survive their Fortress worlds, but then we wouldn't have half of the Story for Halo. Just saying for being an advanced civilization they aren't good with sterilization on local levels.
For all they know the flood could have taken over multiple other galaxies and could return. Heck, for all we know our galaxy could be the last galaxy not infected by the flood xD
@@JS-xv3dm Why is it in fictional theories in universes we are "Only the last" Fiction tends to forget how massive the universe really is. At min it is via observable levels 60+ Billion Light years, good luck infecting all of that and avoiding magnetars, Super massive black holes, great attractors and potential False Vacuums not even Flood can survive False Vacuum end of the universe levels. It could potentially go into slipspace. :P
@@JKAzrael247 Given that the Flood in it's most known powerful form and scope is a reality-warping physics screwing Eldritch Lovecraftian Horror, it could probably survive all that or escape it.
@@Spartan-343 If that was the case why didn't the precursors make themselves a K3 civilisation by making a Mega Earth Shell world around a super massive black hole, has all the energy they need for this universe's life span and can have several hundred seperate shell world layers. basically a galaxy's population several times over inside 1 light year of space. It's not that easily detectable, isolated and secure within one highly protected location and no problem with waste heat. Considering they were the biggest civilisation on scale, they didn't plan for contingencies with the Forerunner. After all i've noticed in the Halo Universe, you can have a million + system/world empire but still be arrogant enough not to stop galactic threats.
Bas Emaus the connect integrally with the nervous system of the host to live I’m not sure why anyone would think it wouldn’t die also the Halo ringers were also meant to reseed the rest of the galaxy with life and clean up the remains of the infection this video is not entirely based on all available or even obvious factual lore
Did you miss the backstory to the Spartan 2 program, next to the creepy feature of automated temperature systems cooling a room down to freezer levels to preserve a person’s body when they die in the room?
When the outpost discovery was announced, around a week or so ago, i literally freaked out. Having played the games and read many novels, hearing that i could actually interact with the halo universe in real life, was literally a dream come true. I hope to see some of you at the Anaheim site!
Here’s my answer, the flood is based on knowledge, for every victim it adds more biomass and more knowledge. Eventually if they don’t get enough new knowledge they mull over it and get bored/angry and they start tearing themselves apart trying to dig up new knowledge.
so i think the reason flood survive is because deep down you know in their hearts they a just kind people and really want to be friends but you know how it is people just dont like difference and they keep trying to refuse the kissses from the nice flood and i mean thats just not very nice you know but also the flood are sometimes a little weird with their kisses do you remember that time when they tried to kiss arbiter out of nowhere and he was like no please thank you there was also that time where gravemind stroked mastercheifs cheek and he giggled and gravemind took it as a wrong message the morale of the story is just be friends with the flood and kiss people to save them and thsat is the cure for the flood
@@dave212 i just dont understand why you would even say that yes i like them little forms and you know how cute they are they do those lil wiggle things with the sacks and tentacles and we can be like oh thats so cute please mother may i hold one and then she goes yes son but just make sure to kiss them plenty of times in a day or they will rip your throat open and your brain will be like oh noooo im being controlled by the flood
Aside from the spores, the Flood is still rotting biomass. "Starving" them means removing their supply of replenishing biomass. ie: victims. Without new biomass to sustain them, the graveminds would perish...over time.
I guess the presumption is there is something in its lifecycle it can't produce on its own. It seems to me simple biomass it has: it could simply cannibalize itself. On a planetary or cosmic scale, it can function much like the Earth's biosphere, a collection of carbon-based lifeforms consuming one another. Its possible that whatever form of waste the Flood excrete can't be consumed by itself. My guess is it can't create its own neural centers. It can repurpose "brain matter" from its hosts, but as that brain matter decays, it must find new hosts to assimilate. At a certain point, even the Flood spores simplistic neurological system will break down. But this is probably an incredibly long process, like waiting for a seed bank to fail.
When they stay starve , I believe it’s meant to encompass the entire flood species, like starve off the infection , I believe the rings do kill active flood units but not the spores but with no biomas to infect , the rings work ! Just my guess
I really love your videos man. Really well written, tons of effort put into them and very informative. Love it man makin me nerd out about halo all over again :)
That intro gets me everytime been watching for yeeeaars and your videos are still always intresting, its nice considering the time we have to wait for infinite until then i have all this halo lore to fill me in.
It's pretty simple for combat forms. If the method of infection for combat forms is to control the nervous system and change it from there. Then there is no guarantee that the systems for consuming nutrients would change along with it. Now that the body isn't taking in any nutrients it would begin to develop gangrene. Eventually this would render the combat form permanently useless, and the infection form it houses would probably suffer the fate of having it's nervous system die out as it is not recieving any substinance to keep the signals flowing, and once the signals stop flowing the form cannot halt the decay now present on the infection form part.
I don't see how they decompose at all. Let's use Earth as an example. If they decomposed and humanity was repopulated then they had a farm where one of the bodies decomposed it would have affected the soil with flood DNA or something and get into the food and turn them into flood
@@justinchromiak6053 decompose as in every part of them breaks down into there base materials including the DNA and any other even remote trace of what they used to be
I took "starve" by not spreading, dying of exposure, being lifeless on the ground not "consuming something" and the host is fully lifeless and the form can't move on to create more spores/etc. The biomass from "dead" flood decays (from exposure), and seeds new life. The Flood in the Halo rings (in the deepest parts of the ring) and dormant ships adrift in space were probably just microbes that never really fully decayed or something or forms that just hibernated and never died from exposure but they can't spread outside from where they're at. That's how I always took from Halo CE when Cortana says "Halo doesn't kill flood, it kills their food".
You know, I'm actually surprised we havent come across any of the ancient-hunanity ships or technology. We see so many forerunner things, but not ancient humans. :T
Bungie-era halo games left forerunners very ambiguous, and at times hinted towards them being humanity pre-halo firing. It would make sense in the context of H1-to reach that we wouldn't see ancient human technology because ancient humans would've been the forerunners. However in 343 era games, with much more defined and explored forerunner and ancient human lore, you are right. It is weird that there isn't any ancient human tech lying around.
The Forunners destroyed everything of the Ancient humans and returned them to a Neolithic state pre firing. Not entirely sure of the timeline for the Human-Forerunner war, but the Forerunner-Flood war lasted for 1000s of years before the Halos were fired. Safe to assume any trace of Ancient humanity would have been wiped out, given what we know about Charum Hakor and the one who resided there.
because you cant wipe out the flood. The flood especially in their final stages are impossible to kill. They are precursors corrupted over time or many anyways. Its highly likely some moved to other dimensions or universes. Or who knows what else.
As far as the flood starving, correct me if I am wrong, but I always kinda figured that combat forms and the such were not a long lived entity. Once infected the body is essentially rotting flesh and I assumed that they would eventually die or become useless due decomposition of the body. If that is correct then they would naturally die and maybe the bits would be used as biomass for a hive or grave mind. However if they do not just die then they need to eat otherwise there would be no caloric intake to keep providing energy to the body that would keep the combat form alive. So in short if they don’t simply die from rot or being shotgunned to hell by the chief then they must need to eat something or risk starving.
If they succeeded then they would go back to the original galaxy and assimilate em they do have I think 3 stage and the finally stage where they went out of space to infect other I think
@@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593 ......the only case I can think of to wipe the flood is to destroy the galaxy itself...........starving them seem to hold them off probably few hundred year.......the flood seem like version of the galaxy common cold or flu that almost impossible to wipe out......they always come bitting you the imminent you peacefully chilling you life....
4:56 Personally, after learning more about how Marathon and Halo use certain words for different contexts, i’ve never taken the whole “starved” to be literal starvation. Like you said, the Flood don’t need nutrients to survive. Additionally you’ve made it abundantly clear that the Flood’s greatest asset is their intelligence; so if the Halos were fired, the Graveminds and other co-ordinating intelligences would be destroyed, leaving only the Flood forms that doesn’t have a nervous system…however, they wouldn’t have any hosts to infect in order to create a new Gravemind. The Flood don’t starve in terms of hunger but knowledge. They would be unable to create a new Gravemind, and thus would be significantly easier to destroy…so long as no organics are the ones that attempted to cleanse the galaxy of the remaining Flood.
@@HiddenXperia DNA, telomeres, and biomass needed to convert into fuel for bodies and cellular processes; without biomass for fuel they must cannibalize their host into nothing and with no host the flood themselves would degrade over time into dust. (remember pvt Jenkins and that old flood spore that couldn't quite do the job due to breaking down while being stored away for eons) The biomass itself is eaten up and any flood left just break down over centuries due to the half life of the atomic structures that make up the chemical properties that make up cells breaking apart, even carbon will self destruct into protons, neutrons, and eventually the particles that make up protons and eventually the fine space dust of nothingness that you can see sometimes spewing out of black holes if given enough time.
I believe there is a flood spore lifespan, considering its size. I’d say like a 2-3 week lifespan. The flood spore when it takes a host it colonizes and makes more, but if there is no host they starve. That’s my theory.
I guess I'll be in Huston this August. Thank you for telling me about Halo Outpost Discovery. I never would have known otherwise. Sincerely, your newest subscriber.
@@adamgray1753 From my point of view the Flood are more dangerous they spread faster, gain more knowledge the more people they infect, produces Flood spores to infect the atmosphere, and can create any Flood combat form of any shape or size with enough bio mass, and they can use technology and AI to gain further advantages in a battle. Also the Flood Gravemind or Keymind is much more intelligent and clever then any Zerg Overmind or Queen.
Great video @HiddenXperia I know you primarily cover halo lore, but if you’re ever interested covering other topics, I really recommend you diving into F.E.A.R series
Hey HiddenXperia, been really enjoying the verses series you've been doing and they've gotten me thinking about some other factions in different games. Some that really came to were the Protoss from Starcraft, they don't seem to have mouths (or even nostrils for that matter?) and communicate via telepathy. Also the Dark Templar remind me of cloaked sword elites, and much of their technology is mechanical and not biological. With the emphasis on the difficulties the Zerg encountered trying to infest Protoss (Terran seemed no problem at all), perhaps the Flood would have trouble as well. The Protoss have such an intimate knowledge with the fabric of the universe as well as advanced technology, I feel that they'd be able to both anticipate and adapt to the Flood's methods of progression. I see much crossover with the Halo Wars and Starcraft universe these days, with the whole Zerg virus bringing me back to the Flood spores, and Flood infestation reminding me of the Zerg creep. As someone who grew up loving the original Brood War franchise, I feel like Starcraft's lore is deep enough to hold it's own against the Halo universe in such a match-up and could be pretty complex of a competition depending on how far into the universe you dig. Grew up loving both games, and I feel they both could be represented in such a way so well, especially by you. Anyways, love the videos and will keep watching :)
Hmm they act like a parasite. So yes they don't need to eat. However maybe they have to keep up adding bio mass within a certain time frame that keeps them up themselves. we're it's not food but much like Gas in a car. It's there energy that helps them actually live on. They have to add as a way to extend there length of infection. Just like a parasite it may take over a host however unless it has more added to it the host will fight it off ending it.
In the Halo Legends origins episodes they do show the flood like, flying away after the blast in the forerunner flood war but in Cortana’s narration pretty much right around that time she does specify it doesn’t wipe them out but it wipes out their “food” Also damn I wish I knew about the convention thing when it was actually happening, I’m not far from Chicago
"Halo doesn't kill Flood, it kills their food. Humans, covenant, we are all equally edible... ... the only way to kill the flood is to starve them to death" Cortana Halo ce
I would love to see a movie about a group of Marines stumbling across a ship of immobilized combat forms, and trying to piece together what happened. This needs to take place before the events of Halo 1. And then send infection forms stalk the Marines around the ship and eventually meet their demise to the flood.
It's so eerie to think about all the Flood, Marines, Covenant you've killed (or the Halo would kill off) are still there. But especially if all Halo's were fired and everything is just dead. Damn I love Halo.
I think the reason why the flood spores starve is because maybe they do but also don't require a host i know that sounds a bit weird but just listen maybe they require a host is to increases there chance for survival and they feed on the bio mass thats on the body or there like ants at first they dont have a graveminde or anything like that but then they do and they require the graveminde for survival as they also have a host and if the rings fire they wont have control of the host or have a gravemind them they cant get the bio mass that they need to slowly feed off of but idk thats just a thought I've had for a while
An entire campaign where you play as a forunner during the ancient flood wars just call it 'Halo: Forunner' would be really neat. Give people perspective on how ancient , resilient and DANGEROUS the flood really are and have been for who knows how long.
Ya know, when I think of how the flood starves, I always thought of it like the connection to the hive mind was what kept them alive as though intelligence was their food source and in the way that AIs think themselves to death, the Flood die from lack of thought which is sorta poetic I feel.
Bungie really should have clarified that the shipmaster means infection when he says “spore”. That space flood dust really breaks the world mote than once. That precursor corrupted dust thing could have just been a one thing thing that only happens with precursors themselves, same for 343, they just had to make that pretty cinematic of a spore landing on a planet and infecting forerunners.
Maybe the flood version of "starving" is that over time, the infection form completely loses the ability to control its host leaving both immobilized and unable to move on their own accord. Eventually it further loses the ability to sense/see/ hear anything at all, so what we're left with is a catatonic flood form that technically can't decay and is stuck in the isolated confines of its own body.
I feel like the Halos are the Forerunner's first tech to tap into the Neural Physical aspects of the universe. It pulls a radiation that can be tailored to specified use, determinable to the user's choice, and dispensed in a manner impossible for any other Forerunner tech, and contains levels of energy impossibly stored within the rings themselves. The Forerunners had access to Precursor tech, so it makes sense to eventually reach that level of ability. Radiation from the "Living Universe," controlled on a Neural level by tech (as opposed to a creature, such as Precursors and Graveminds) as programmed for a given purpose. This also explains the destruction of Precursor tech by the firing, if a device can act as its own bane. I think the Forerunner Builders finally got control over the tech, turned in on the Flood, and were able to program the directives to not penetrate Forerunner shield installations or Flood research facilities on the very Halos firing at point blank range, given the presence of full-bodied Flood forms with nervous tissues simply put into stasis.
My theory for the Flood starving is the need to replenish the decaying biomass and flesh of its infected forms. As time goes on, the bulk of the infected forms, pure forms, and even hives will start to deteriorate at too high a rate for the Flood to keep up with when they don't have a near constant supply of living tissues to consume. This would obviously take place over a very very long time, considering it would be multiple generations before the Flood's numbers start to really break down and die off, but the last time the Rings were fired, it took many many years before the life in the Library was released back into the galaxy. Plenty of time for the Flood to just decay and die. That's what makes the most sense to me
always figured that without a neural mesh flood organisms would loose all cohesion and the already degraded flesh would fall apart, also movement requires energy and energy has to come from somewhere, i can see a primordial built bioweapon like the flood being the pinnacle of efficiency but eventually it will run out of energy and die
Ive seen a few videos about trying to solve the power and how the halo rings work with real science. And what they came up with was a type of mass spreading of a type of radiation that affects those with a nervous system (idk maybe it reacts to the electrical systems?) But anyway, to the point, all types radiation has one major thing in common, they attack and destroy cells, and considering the halos have enough power to boost their weapon to 25 million/thousand light years, that is ALOT of radiation, and i wouldnt be suprised if those who are at the edge of the range are attacked by mutiple halo rings whos range overlap. That much exposure to radiation could possibly destroy the cells to the point that the entire body is vapourised, so maybe those media that show the halo rings vapourising the flood isnt so inaccurate. It would also explain shield words which would be made of material dense and thick enough to block the radiation from penetrating it.
flood infection forms:ahhh what i nice day halo ring: *fires* infection forms: what was that dies- surviving flood : IM A SURVIVOR master chief: looks at flood surviving flood : goddangit
4:50 Don't flood forms eventually just perish from weathering and old age? I mean, I know that combat forms turn into carrier forms when they turn old enough. I don't think they'll just remain functional forever if you leave them for thousands of years.
The Halo Array was also explained to have the properties to destroy neural physics via its neutrino radiation when it is fired. This is why the Flood would be destroyed - it's explained in the Forerunner trilogy of books that the Flood are composed of neural physics just like the Precursor artifacts (since the Flood are a Precursor life form), which were also eradicated by Halo as you explained. Thus, firing the Halo Array would in fact destroy Flood biomass along with life forms of sufficient sentience.
When a Flood infection form takes over a body, they twist it and transform it to make it better at attacking to gain more biomass; but I feel like this a combination of short term and long term benefits. The more organisms the Flood claim, the quicker they can make a Gravemind and this allows for more longterm planning. However by twisting the body in such a violent way, the body is more likely to break down quicker and potentially decompose around the infection form until they either abandon the body or turn it into a Carrier form. But with the firing of the Halos, any species that had a nervous system would be out of play and most of the Flood's converted armies would also be useless by then. As a result, the Flood would basically starve to death. It is also possible that some of their larger biomass-hives used a type of nervous system network that broke apart with the firing of the Halos.
I always worked under the premise that after all "life" in the galaxy was killed massive waves of sentinels were deployed which had to destroy the remaining flood. The "starving" was atributed to the flood not being able to infect any more living beings, thus they run out of "food".
I thought today we'd touch on how the one thing that was created to destroy the Flood entirely doesn't *exactly* do its job. As if the Flood weren't freightening enough already 😂 Hope you guys enjoy!
In a few days I should have a video up talking about how Halo Outpost Discovery could be a huge tease for Infinite. Trust me, ya don't wanna miss it :D
Can't wait for the Doom vid👌
2 likes, 36 views. I have never seen a video upload this early. Cool
HiddenXperia one question in the halo official spartan field manual spartan grant (spartan ops) talks about the banished on page 45 do you think this is a hint to a potential spartan ops sequel in infinite or in a later game?
Glad to be a part of the team
hope you get better man hey also after you do your doom demons vs flood. you really should look into the Kett from mass effect Andromeda they are a gene stealing race that can convert any biological creature to there race. I would love to see them convert a Flood grave mind into a kett mind using their gene injection.
"Caught a pretty nasty virus or something"
Everyone watching in 2020: " hmm interesting"
went down to the comments for exactly this, was not disappointed, thanks!
@@grif5447 Same, lmao.
Motero Argentino Same
@@KSI_Revelations nah it exists, i work as security to hospitals, seen people with it, don't want to get any closer to it. and so! please keep safe my people!, and dont start a war over whether or not it exists based on someone's say-so im just putting in what i've seen and heard from my charges.
HAHAHAH
The flood can "starve" because of the degradation of matter. Inactive flood forms just laying there would degrade over time because of the half lives of the biological matter they're made of, thus they're "starved" for new biological matter to consume and can't continue to propagate. It's kind of like why areas like Chernobyl won't be habitable for hundreds of years as the radioactive matter degrades.
Ahhh, interesting, thanks for the explanation dude!
@@HiddenXperia senpai noticed me. My life is complete.
basically they "starve" from a lack of fuel thus leading to the body self cannibalizing to maintain energy or from what he said or both simultaneously.
So did the Flood get wiped out by the Halo Arrays or did they just starve and die after all the food got zapped?
Even though Chernobyl is actually inhabitable, approx. 2000 people do live and work there officially in the exclusion zone. Most of the washing of buildings and the region did the trick.
Easy just get up to a high area and the water can't *reach* you
_Wait wrong Flood_
Lol this comment has more likes than the pinned one
With this being the top comment im not even mad that my comment got ignored 😂😂😂
just get on the Ark... true for both floods
Ouch. Lol
“It’s over! I have the high ground!”
The flood forms in the thumbnail look like a family watching their last sunset together
Lol i love his thumbnails
You don’t need a population to infect when you’ve got family
Yup right before the array fired and killed them all
That’s not a family I want to be apart of.
Yeah a family of hive minded freaks
"Must have inhaled a flood spore or something"
*the halo rings would like to know your location*
master chief: *EXISTS*
*flood has left the chat*
haloARRAY.exe has stopped working
*the covernant has left the chat*
*unsc has joined the chat*
forerunners: *ight imma head out*
Damn
Aged like coffee
4:19 You forgot to mention that infection forms can jump out of a combat form when it is of no use, like in halo 2 when a combat form loses its arms. So if the infection form is still alive and well, then it can just hop out and find a new host.
Very true! Thanks for pointing it out!
Your welcome
Yeah, but after the Halos fire there is no longer any hosts for them to infect.
good point, of course the infection form probably got its nerves toasted too.
I thought that was only a gameplay feature so they had some form of offensive ability when they don't have arms.
That still doesn't excuse the Forerunners for letting flood survive their Fortress worlds, but then we wouldn't have half of the Story for Halo. Just saying for being an advanced civilization they aren't good with sterilization on local levels.
For all they know the flood could have taken over multiple other galaxies and could return. Heck, for all we know our galaxy could be the last galaxy not infected by the flood xD
@@JS-xv3dm Why is it in fictional theories in universes we are "Only the last" Fiction tends to forget how massive the universe really is. At min it is via observable levels 60+ Billion Light years, good luck infecting all of that and avoiding magnetars, Super massive black holes, great attractors and potential False Vacuums not even Flood can survive False Vacuum end of the universe levels. It could potentially go into slipspace. :P
@@JKAzrael247 Given that the Flood in it's most known powerful form and scope is a reality-warping physics screwing Eldritch Lovecraftian Horror, it could probably survive all that or escape it.
@@Spartan-343 If that was the case why didn't the precursors make themselves a K3 civilisation by making a Mega Earth Shell world around a super massive black hole, has all the energy they need for this universe's life span and can have several hundred seperate shell world layers. basically a galaxy's population several times over inside 1 light year of space. It's not that easily detectable, isolated and secure within one highly protected location and no problem with waste heat. Considering they were the biggest civilisation on scale, they didn't plan for contingencies with the Forerunner. After all i've noticed in the Halo Universe, you can have a million + system/world empire but still be arrogant enough not to stop galactic threats.
They hoped the Monitors would guide future humanity about how to fight the flood and resume research on them so they can cure it.
i thought infection forms DID have a nervous system, so they would be destroyed/killed
Imagine a flood infection form in a flood infection form (ik it isnt possible just imaginate)
Bas Emaus the connect integrally with the nervous system of the host to live I’m not sure why anyone would think it wouldn’t die also the Halo ringers were also meant to reseed the rest of the galaxy with life and clean up the remains of the infection this video is not entirely based on all available or even obvious factual lore
Pretty sure the whole stupid point of the halo rings is that they kill everything BUT the flood, like that's their thing
The halo rings starve the flood so it will die out then they will repopulate the universe after the flood has died out
Ikr
"... And why the aftermath of Halo firing is actually a really disturbing thing."
Man, the totality of Halo universe is disturbing
Did you miss the backstory to the Spartan 2 program, next to the creepy feature of automated temperature systems cooling a room down to freezer levels to preserve a person’s body when they die in the room?
@@crypto1223 told you, whole halo universe is disturbing
What about warhammer 40k, like the death corps of Krieg…
Especially halo 5
When the outpost discovery was announced, around a week or so ago, i literally freaked out. Having played the games and read many novels, hearing that i could actually interact with the halo universe in real life, was literally a dream come true. I hope to see some of you at the Anaheim site!
Joseph Figueroa are you working with Umbrella Corp? What’s with the logo, eh?
" I caught a pretty nasty virus earlier this week" damn, he be predicting the future
but the real question remains
Will Halo Infinite have Playable Elites?
I asked that to an Elite who works at 343 and he said: "Wort wort wort, wort wort" There you have it, its confirmed.
I met a Sangheili once. He glassed my planet. Darn Sangheili. Always messing my day up.
@@redthree603 wort wort wort
@@redthree603 although they are a pain in the ass on legendary
#GlassedPlanetsHaveBadRecords
well you say it leaves the flood immobile well did you forget about the sentinels that go and burn everything?
Smallzthehomie 760 this made me think of the assassin from rick and morty but as a sentinal instead. “Oohh boy, time to go burnin again!”
Doesn't backpack reload the rocket launcher at the beginning
Me: Instantly triggered
Still love ya
Back pack reload?
@@Drbrickbeard In Halo CE if you double tap the reload button then switch weapons the gun you swapped away from will reload "on your back"
Weldon Swartz Hey I backpack reloaded most of the CE footage, it’s instinct now 😂
@@HiddenXperia Backpack reloading makes the library on legendary actually bearable.
Here’s my answer, the flood is based on knowledge, for every victim it adds more biomass and more knowledge. Eventually if they don’t get enough new knowledge they mull over it and get bored/angry and they start tearing themselves apart trying to dig up new knowledge.
so i think the reason flood survive is because deep down you know in their hearts they a just kind people and really want to be friends but you know how it is people just dont like difference and they keep trying to refuse the kissses from the nice flood and i mean thats just not very nice you know but also the flood are sometimes a little weird with their kisses do you remember that time when they tried to kiss arbiter out of nowhere and he was like no please thank you there was also that time where gravemind stroked mastercheifs cheek and he giggled and gravemind took it as a wrong message the morale of the story is just be friends with the flood and kiss people to save them and thsat is the cure for the flood
You are an infection form trying to fool us right?
Hey fuck outta here wit that sap shit
@@dave212 i just dont understand why you would even say that yes i like them little forms and you know how cute they are they do those lil wiggle things with the sacks and tentacles and we can be like oh thats so cute please mother may i hold one and then she goes yes son but just make sure to kiss them plenty of times in a day or they will rip your throat open and your brain will be like oh noooo im being controlled by the flood
@@Xxpwnage223x cute? Someone get the FBI
Interesting head canon tbh
HiddenXperia I hope you feel better dood and I love your videos byw so just so good!
THEY USED FLEX TAPE TO FIX EACHOTHER
Nice one
Phil swift is a precursor confirmed
In order to prove the masking power of Flex Tape, I CUT THE FLOOD IN HALF AND PIECED IT TOGETHER WITH ONLY FLEX TAPE
This is unessesary
Aside from the spores, the Flood is still rotting biomass.
"Starving" them means removing their supply of replenishing biomass. ie: victims.
Without new biomass to sustain them, the graveminds would perish...over time.
I guess the presumption is there is something in its lifecycle it can't produce on its own. It seems to me simple biomass it has: it could simply cannibalize itself. On a planetary or cosmic scale, it can function much like the Earth's biosphere, a collection of carbon-based lifeforms consuming one another. Its possible that whatever form of waste the Flood excrete can't be consumed by itself.
My guess is it can't create its own neural centers. It can repurpose "brain matter" from its hosts, but as that brain matter decays, it must find new hosts to assimilate. At a certain point, even the Flood spores simplistic neurological system will break down. But this is probably an incredibly long process, like waiting for a seed bank to fail.
The weak shall fear the strong
So the entire galaxy should fear the Flood, but the Flood should fear the dreaded hand sanitizer...
Dislike!
I never thought I’d find you here
@@HiddenXperia Well hand sanitizer does only wipe out 99.99% of germs
hi dad
I must of inhaled a flood spore or something
*Knock on door*
PROMETHEN FBI OPEN UP
You caught the t-virus after that resident evil video
Careful what you cover
And the g-virus
He's either becoming a G virus creature or a Blacklight Prototype creature.
@@thorshammer7883 yeah pretty much
@Grayest LOL
*flood effectively consumes everything in the galaxy
Combat form: ... Now what!?
(Another combat form) "... Space trip!" And the flood head elsewhere.
I’ve always wondered this... what happens when you take over the galaxy...
They go full intergalactic like good old parasites do
All combat forms would return to base to be re purposed, but hard to say what for considering the flood lives to infect
@Stale Bagelz we all die...... include the flood as well....
Unless they found another way to jump to another universe or realm....
Love your vids man! Can't wait for Halo Infinite. It's going to be absolutely amazing.
Thanks man! Fingers crossed :D
Calm down, i say that everytime since almost 10 years now...
Xperia's talked about the flood so much that he's finally becoming one
Dr. Pootis he is a Gravemind
He’s got the logic plague
I hope you feel better!
I would imagine that the flood feed off of something that is part of the nervous system
Like the electrical signals that go through it
The electricity running through your CNS isn’t even enough to power a lightbulb.
@@Paddy656 Neural physics also don't exist in reality, dipshit
Kagji actually yes it is in the real world neural physics is the physiology off the neural network in the human body
@@definitelynotadam4972 That is not even abstractly close to what neural physics are in halo, you pedantic asshole
@@NecrosAcolyte relax fanboy
When they stay starve , I believe it’s meant to encompass the entire flood species, like starve off the infection , I believe the rings do kill active flood units but not the spores but with no biomas to infect , the rings work ! Just my guess
"I must have inhaled a flood spore or something" begins to violently convulse and scream as his body is torn apart, bones and limbs snapping
I really hope they make a grand entrance for the flood, just as scary as 343 Guilty Spark... but different obviously
The flood videos you make are my favorite series . You are my favorite professor when it comes to halo
I consider these videos a survival guide for space zombies.
Well it could be worse. Atleast there's no hyperversal god of Flesh or Disease in Halo unlike the SCP Foundation universe which is Yaldabaoth.
I really love your videos man. Really well written, tons of effort put into them and very informative. Love it man makin me nerd out about halo all over again :)
They starve because Stalin took away their potatoes
In Soviet Halo, You consume Flood
In Soviet halo you eat the grunts
@@jdjdjdjdjdmdjdmksmdndmsndi2016 in Soviet Halo, corpse teabags you
In Soviet halo elites tea bag you
@@jdjdjdjdjdmdjdmksmdndmsndi2016 in Soviet Halo, all life in the universe wipes out Halo Array
That intro gets me everytime been watching for yeeeaars and your videos are still always intresting, its nice considering the time we have to wait for infinite until then i have all this halo lore to fill me in.
Thanks for the link to the Halo Outpost discovery. 😉😆
It's pretty simple for combat forms. If the method of infection for combat forms is to control the nervous system and change it from there. Then there is no guarantee that the systems for consuming nutrients would change along with it. Now that the body isn't taking in any nutrients it would begin to develop gangrene. Eventually this would render the combat form permanently useless, and the infection form it houses would probably suffer the fate of having it's nervous system die out as it is not recieving any substinance to keep the signals flowing, and once the signals stop flowing the form cannot halt the decay now present on the infection form part.
The flood would starve because their biomass would decompose
I don't see how they decompose at all. Let's use Earth as an example. If they decomposed and humanity was repopulated then they had a farm where one of the bodies decomposed it would have affected the soil with flood DNA or something and get into the food and turn them into flood
@@justinchromiak6053 decompose as in every part of them breaks down into there base materials including the DNA and any other even remote trace of what they used to be
I took "starve" by not spreading, dying of exposure, being lifeless on the ground not "consuming something" and the host is fully lifeless and the form can't move on to create more spores/etc. The biomass from "dead" flood decays (from exposure), and seeds new life. The Flood in the Halo rings (in the deepest parts of the ring) and dormant ships adrift in space were probably just microbes that never really fully decayed or something or forms that just hibernated and never died from exposure but they can't spread outside from where they're at.
That's how I always took from Halo CE when Cortana says "Halo doesn't kill flood, it kills their food".
thats one beautiful thumbnail
Bro, I love your videos. New halo fan, but learning a lot with you. Thanks, mate
You know, I'm actually surprised we havent come across any of the ancient-hunanity ships or technology.
We see so many forerunner things, but not ancient humans. :T
Bungie-era halo games left forerunners very ambiguous, and at times hinted towards them being humanity pre-halo firing. It would make sense in the context of H1-to reach that we wouldn't see ancient human technology because ancient humans would've been the forerunners.
However in 343 era games, with much more defined and explored forerunner and ancient human lore, you are right. It is weird that there isn't any ancient human tech lying around.
Halo 5, Hellcat Armor. One ship found and studied.
The Forunners destroyed everything of the Ancient humans and returned them to a Neolithic state pre firing. Not entirely sure of the timeline for the Human-Forerunner war, but the Forerunner-Flood war lasted for 1000s of years before the Halos were fired. Safe to assume any trace of Ancient humanity would have been wiped out, given what we know about Charum Hakor and the one who resided there.
Penitent Tangent: “AND YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT CONTAINMENT!”
Me: Halos don’t work lolol
I just wanna know why the forerunners create a weapon that could wipe out the flood instead of just stunning them for a few thousand years
because you cant wipe out the flood. The flood especially in their final stages are impossible to kill. They are precursors corrupted over time or many anyways. Its highly likely some moved to other dimensions or universes. Or who knows what else.
As far as the flood starving, correct me if I am wrong, but I always kinda figured that combat forms and the such were not a long lived entity. Once infected the body is essentially rotting flesh and I assumed that they would eventually die or become useless due decomposition of the body. If that is correct then they would naturally die and maybe the bits would be used as biomass for a hive or grave mind. However if they do not just die then they need to eat otherwise there would be no caloric intake to keep providing energy to the body that would keep the combat form alive. So in short if they don’t simply die from rot or being shotgunned to hell by the chief then they must need to eat something or risk starving.
What it the flood when to a different Galaxy and took it over
If they succeeded then they would go back to the original galaxy and assimilate em they do have I think 3 stage and the finally stage where they went out of space to infect other I think
RIP Galaxy
Depends wich galaxy and their inhabitants some might even be capable of *COMPLETELY* exterminate the flood
@@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593 ......the only case I can think of to wipe the flood is to destroy the galaxy itself...........starving them seem to hold them off probably few hundred year.......the flood seem like version of the galaxy common cold or flu that almost impossible to wipe out......they always come bitting you the imminent you peacefully chilling you life....
4:56 Personally, after learning more about how Marathon and Halo use certain words for different contexts, i’ve never taken the whole “starved” to be literal starvation.
Like you said, the Flood don’t need nutrients to survive.
Additionally you’ve made it abundantly clear that the Flood’s greatest asset is their intelligence; so if the Halos were fired, the Graveminds and other co-ordinating intelligences would be destroyed, leaving only the Flood forms that doesn’t have a nervous system…however, they wouldn’t have any hosts to infect in order to create a new Gravemind.
The Flood don’t starve in terms of hunger but knowledge.
They would be unable to create a new Gravemind, and thus would be significantly easier to destroy…so long as no organics are the ones that attempted to cleanse the galaxy of the remaining Flood.
Doesn't biomass rot so the flood need new biomass to stay alive
Keep frozem boi
I'd expect the Flood "starving" to be neurodegeneration. They probably need nutrients to uphold the nervous system of their host.
maybe the infection form feeds on the nervous system's electrical output?
They do
Possibly, but that doesn't explain why spores die out considering they're essentially just airborne encapsulated cells
@@HiddenXperia DNA, telomeres, and biomass needed to convert into fuel for bodies and cellular processes; without biomass for fuel they must cannibalize their host into nothing and with no host the flood themselves would degrade over time into dust.
(remember pvt Jenkins and that old flood spore that couldn't quite do the job due to breaking down while being stored away for eons)
The biomass itself is eaten up and any flood left just break down over centuries due to the half life of the atomic structures that make up the chemical properties that make up cells breaking apart, even carbon will self destruct into protons, neutrons, and eventually the particles that make up protons and eventually the fine space dust of nothingness that you can see sometimes spewing out of black holes if given enough time.
Nuh uh the flood can do photosynthesis. Otherwise how the fuck would a keymind stay alive? Also they might just get energy by using neural physics.
@@nerdlingeeksly5192 that sounds totally right !:)
I believe there is a flood spore lifespan, considering its size. I’d say like a 2-3 week lifespan. The flood spore when it takes a host it colonizes and makes more, but if there is no host they starve.
That’s my theory.
When your watching during the corona virus.. and he says he had a small virus🥈
I guess I'll be in Huston this August. Thank you for telling me about Halo Outpost Discovery. I never would have known otherwise. Sincerely, your newest subscriber.
0:34 virus you say?
“I must have inhaled a Flood spore” 🤣 Best quote over... almost... *ICONIC* ;)
CHICAGO???? YESSSSS I CAN GO!!!! AND YOU’RE GOING TOO?????? HOLY SHYT!!
8:00 I was fully expecting him to say we get to experience being changed into a flood form
Can't wait to know how it's like to be infected by the flood lol
0:36 watching this video in 2020 has different meaning now
Can you do the Flood vs The Zerg from Starcraft?
The Zerg will easily win that war. Zerg Rush for the win! lol
@@adamgray1753
Reasons?
@@thorshammer7883, if you didn't understand my comment then I suggest you look up the Starcraft term, "Zerg Rush".
@@adamgray1753
From my point of view the Flood are more dangerous they spread faster, gain more knowledge the more people they infect, produces Flood spores to infect the atmosphere, and can create any Flood combat form of any shape or size with enough bio mass, and they can use technology and AI to gain further advantages in a battle. Also the Flood Gravemind or Keymind is much more intelligent and clever then any Zerg Overmind or Queen.
@@thorshammer7883 It was a joke .-.
Well, thankfully there’s one close by. Thanks for bringing it to Orlando!
The flood could have survived??!?!
Welp gotta get some fire rockets and shotguns
Time to get some SCP Foundation nuclear alpha warheads ready.
@@thorshammer7883 what about nova bombs (the nukes that can shater plants)
@@ethanjeffries7914
Hmm how about reality warpers like SCP-3812 or Mekhane the machine god?
Great video
@HiddenXperia
I know you primarily cover halo lore, but if you’re ever interested covering other topics, I really recommend you diving into F.E.A.R series
Halo fan squad where are you at?
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Awsome video I really like learning more about the flood and I'm a really big halo fan
They starved because shaggy and I ate all the Scooby snacks and pizza lol 😅😅😅😅😅
HiddenXperia: The Halos can’t completely destroy the Flood
*WHAT*
Maybe they starve from not gaining more knowledge?
That would make sense
Next video:
Why THE FLOOD Should Replace MASTER CHIEF As Halo's MAIN PROTAGONIST
Ok yes all nervous systems are destroyed but what about lord shaggy he isn’t mortal 🤔🤔🤔
The flood were accidentaly created by ultra instinct shaggy when he got the flu they are actually the flu infused with 0.8% of Shaggy power
No it means Lord shaggy will simply become an ULTRA GRAVEMIND
@@onlinepseudonym7985 LOL no the flood is nothing compared to shaggy
Can Shaggy beat SCP-3812 the strongest reality warper of all time?
Thor's Hammer shaggy is reality 😂
Hey HiddenXperia, been really enjoying the verses series you've been doing and they've gotten me thinking about some other factions in different games. Some that really came to were the Protoss from Starcraft, they don't seem to have mouths (or even nostrils for that matter?) and communicate via telepathy. Also the Dark Templar remind me of cloaked sword elites, and much of their technology is mechanical and not biological. With the emphasis on the difficulties the Zerg encountered trying to infest Protoss (Terran seemed no problem at all), perhaps the Flood would have trouble as well. The Protoss have such an intimate knowledge with the fabric of the universe as well as advanced technology, I feel that they'd be able to both anticipate and adapt to the Flood's methods of progression. I see much crossover with the Halo Wars and Starcraft universe these days, with the whole Zerg virus bringing me back to the Flood spores, and Flood infestation reminding me of the Zerg creep. As someone who grew up loving the original Brood War franchise, I feel like Starcraft's lore is deep enough to hold it's own against the Halo universe in such a match-up and could be pretty complex of a competition depending on how far into the universe you dig.
Grew up loving both games, and I feel they both could be represented in such a way so well, especially by you. Anyways, love the videos and will keep watching :)
Hmm they act like a parasite. So yes they don't need to eat. However maybe they have to keep up adding bio mass within a certain time frame that keeps them up themselves. we're it's not food but much like Gas in a car. It's there energy that helps them actually live on. They have to add as a way to extend there length of infection. Just like a parasite it may take over a host however unless it has more added to it the host will fight it off ending it.
In the Halo Legends origins episodes they do show the flood like, flying away after the blast in the forerunner flood war but in Cortana’s narration pretty much right around that time she does specify it doesn’t wipe them out but it wipes out their “food”
Also damn I wish I knew about the convention thing when it was actually happening, I’m not far from Chicago
"Halo doesn't kill Flood, it kills their food. Humans, covenant, we are all equally edible... ... the only way to kill the flood is to starve them to death"
Cortana
Halo ce
343i added in new lore.
I would love to see a movie about a group of Marines stumbling across a ship of immobilized combat forms, and trying to piece together what happened. This needs to take place before the events of Halo 1. And then send infection forms stalk the Marines around the ship and eventually meet their demise to the flood.
It's so eerie to think about all the Flood, Marines, Covenant you've killed (or the Halo would kill off) are still there. But especially if all Halo's were fired and everything is just dead. Damn I love Halo.
I think the reason why the flood spores starve is because maybe they do but also don't require a host i know that sounds a bit weird but just listen maybe they require a host is to increases there chance for survival and they feed on the bio mass thats on the body or there like ants at first they dont have a graveminde or anything like that but then they do and they require the graveminde for survival as they also have a host and if the rings fire they wont have control of the host or have a gravemind them they cant get the bio mass that they need to slowly feed off of but idk thats just a thought I've had for a while
The flood: exists
HiddenXperia: I can milk you.
Omg, that would be the best Halo game. Just Master Chief getting a super-soaker and filling it with hand sanitizer to kill the Flood. XD
An entire campaign where you play as a forunner during the ancient flood wars just call it 'Halo: Forunner' would be really neat. Give people perspective on how ancient , resilient and DANGEROUS the flood really are and have been for who knows how long.
Ya know, when I think of how the flood starves, I always thought of it like the connection to the hive mind was what kept them alive as though intelligence was their food source and in the way that AIs think themselves to death, the Flood die from lack of thought which is sorta poetic I feel.
Bungie really should have clarified that the shipmaster means infection when he says “spore”.
That space flood dust really breaks the world mote than once.
That precursor corrupted dust thing could have just been a one thing thing that only happens with precursors themselves, same for 343, they just had to make that pretty cinematic of a spore landing on a planet and infecting forerunners.
I have a virus since last Wednesday evening (06.02.2019). Still feel a little sick, but on the way to recover. Hope you will recover as well *Atchoo*
Maybe the flood version of "starving" is that over time, the infection form completely loses the ability to control its host leaving both immobilized and unable to move on their own accord. Eventually it further loses the ability to sense/see/ hear anything at all, so what we're left with is a catatonic flood form that technically can't decay and is stuck in the isolated confines of its own body.
Still the coolest intro on TH-cam, really interesting video as well
I feel like the Halos are the Forerunner's first tech to tap into the Neural Physical aspects of the universe. It pulls a radiation that can be tailored to specified use, determinable to the user's choice, and dispensed in a manner impossible for any other Forerunner tech, and contains levels of energy impossibly stored within the rings themselves. The Forerunners had access to Precursor tech, so it makes sense to eventually reach that level of ability. Radiation from the "Living Universe," controlled on a Neural level by tech (as opposed to a creature, such as Precursors and Graveminds) as programmed for a given purpose. This also explains the destruction of Precursor tech by the firing, if a device can act as its own bane. I think the Forerunner Builders finally got control over the tech, turned in on the Flood, and were able to program the directives to not penetrate Forerunner shield installations or Flood research facilities on the very Halos firing at point blank range, given the presence of full-bodied Flood forms with nervous tissues simply put into stasis.
5:04 “The weak one just to KEEL OVER AND DIE, you’d hear them going down behind you, kaboom! Kaboom! Kaboom!”
Helo ring:fired
Combat form:"well I'm gonna lay down now"
My theory for the Flood starving is the need to replenish the decaying biomass and flesh of its infected forms. As time goes on, the bulk of the infected forms, pure forms, and even hives will start to deteriorate at too high a rate for the Flood to keep up with when they don't have a near constant supply of living tissues to consume. This would obviously take place over a very very long time, considering it would be multiple generations before the Flood's numbers start to really break down and die off, but the last time the Rings were fired, it took many many years before the life in the Library was released back into the galaxy. Plenty of time for the Flood to just decay and die. That's what makes the most sense to me
always figured that without a neural mesh flood organisms would loose all cohesion and the already degraded flesh would fall apart, also movement requires energy and energy has to come from somewhere, i can see a primordial built bioweapon like the flood being the pinnacle of efficiency but eventually it will run out of energy and die
Ive seen a few videos about trying to solve the power and how the halo rings work with real science. And what they came up with was a type of mass spreading of a type of radiation that affects those with a nervous system (idk maybe it reacts to the electrical systems?)
But anyway, to the point, all types radiation has one major thing in common, they attack and destroy cells, and considering the halos have enough power to boost their weapon to 25 million/thousand light years, that is ALOT of radiation, and i wouldnt be suprised if those who are at the edge of the range are attacked by mutiple halo rings whos range overlap. That much exposure to radiation could possibly destroy the cells to the point that the entire body is vapourised, so maybe those media that show the halo rings vapourising the flood isnt so inaccurate.
It would also explain shield words which would be made of material dense and thick enough to block the radiation from penetrating it.
flood infection forms:ahhh what i nice day
halo ring: *fires*
infection forms: what was that dies-
surviving flood : IM A SURVIVOR
master chief: looks at flood
surviving flood : goddangit
HiddenXperia: I’ve got a pretty nasty virus
Me: Well I Guess it’s time to fire a halo ring
4:50 Don't flood forms eventually just perish from weathering and old age? I mean, I know that combat forms turn into carrier forms when they turn old enough. I don't think they'll just remain functional forever if you leave them for thousands of years.
The Halo Array was also explained to have the properties to destroy neural physics via its neutrino radiation when it is fired. This is why the Flood would be destroyed - it's explained in the Forerunner trilogy of books that the Flood are composed of neural physics just like the Precursor artifacts (since the Flood are a Precursor life form), which were also eradicated by Halo as you explained. Thus, firing the Halo Array would in fact destroy Flood biomass along with life forms of sufficient sentience.
When a Flood infection form takes over a body, they twist it and transform it to make it better at attacking to gain more biomass; but I feel like this a combination of short term and long term benefits. The more organisms the Flood claim, the quicker they can make a Gravemind and this allows for more longterm planning. However by twisting the body in such a violent way, the body is more likely to break down quicker and potentially decompose around the infection form until they either abandon the body or turn it into a Carrier form. But with the firing of the Halos, any species that had a nervous system would be out of play and most of the Flood's converted armies would also be useless by then. As a result, the Flood would basically starve to death. It is also possible that some of their larger biomass-hives used a type of nervous system network that broke apart with the firing of the Halos.
I always worked under the premise that after all "life" in the galaxy was killed massive waves of sentinels were deployed which had to destroy the remaining flood. The "starving" was atributed to the flood not being able to infect any more living beings, thus they run out of "food".
i thought the forerunners had kept samples of creatures to redistibute after the firing of the halos, this is why humans are still around right?
I was thinking, why not put The Flood against SCP-610? I'd be glad to give info on SCP-610.