Understanding Concave and Convex Functions

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  • @viktorszasz6771
    @viktorszasz6771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    My man! This is the best explaination I've found, yet I've searched in 3 languages.
    Great explaining, awesome visualisation, simply an incredible video and a great help! Thank you very much!!!!

  • @vaishakmuralidharan7605
    @vaishakmuralidharan7605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Been breaking my head over understanding jensen's inequality, this was a really clear, unassuming explanation! Thank you a ton

    • @chandradeepraut9306
      @chandradeepraut9306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same with me watched it for trigono

    • @shireenkhan6847
      @shireenkhan6847 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hey, any other resources you can tell which can help with Jensen's inequality too? I can't understand it at all

    • @sharonlima8913
      @sharonlima8913 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what do you mean by unassuming function?

    • @JhoiverJimenez
      @JhoiverJimenez 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shireenkhan6847 what about this one? th-cam.com/video/LOwj7UxQwJ0/w-d-xo.html

    • @JhoiverJimenez
      @JhoiverJimenez 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sharonlima8913 function? Perhaps you meant explanation. In my case I feel the same, other math professors always assume we remember some concepts and aspect, some of us dont and when they assume we get easily lost in the subject.

  • @dindor138
    @dindor138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Now the defination do not seem daunting at all after you've explained the design of the defination. Very helpful to me. Thank you.

  • @awesomebearaudiobooks
    @awesomebearaudiobooks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    6:37 that is the face of my Brain when trying to understand Concave and Convex Functions.

  • @huntergiles
    @huntergiles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been stuck on this for days. thank you so much

  • @mightym3209
    @mightym3209 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simply best! Thank you for such a detailed and step-by-step explanation.

  • @abdoennajah2702
    @abdoennajah2702 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally i understood. Thank you for this great explanation

  • @RayRay-yt5pe
    @RayRay-yt5pe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much. You've just gained a new subscriber.

  • @N0N5T0P
    @N0N5T0P 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Excellent video!!! The only thing I'm wondering about is about the strictly convex/concave functions. It seems to me that whenever lambda is either 0 or 1, the two sides of the "inequality" will always be equal. You even mentioned that in your video. But how can we EVER have a strictly convex/concave function then, with this definition? Do you have to change lambda to be 0

  • @jasminewong2010
    @jasminewong2010 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks ! This is so helpful and breaks it down really easily

  • @omniscienceisdead8837
    @omniscienceisdead8837 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    im coming in from time series for deep learning , keep it up broo

  • @brookecribbs4018
    @brookecribbs4018 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    bro why I am watching this for my econ class when I took Calc 1, 2, and 3 years ago and I just so lost

  • @gunterjohann4417
    @gunterjohann4417 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that is a truly great video.

  • @clementecarbonaro619
    @clementecarbonaro619 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you so much, you explained it exceptionally well

  • @debasishguha6835
    @debasishguha6835 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Explained a pretty complicated topic very nicely. It is easy to visualize and understand the definition after watching this video. However, the points x and y are chosen such that f(L) > both f(x) and f(y). I have been trying to convince myself how this would have worked if y was such that f(y) was more around the crest and f(L) in that case would have lied between f(x) and f(y).

  • @PriyanshuJain-c8v
    @PriyanshuJain-c8v หลายเดือนก่อน

    Insanely good, thanks a ton

  • @SaranshGupta786
    @SaranshGupta786 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very clear explanation, thanks a lot.

  • @nocontextnikhil
    @nocontextnikhil 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    amazing explanation

  • @victoriacorcimaru1731
    @victoriacorcimaru1731 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly, a brilliant explanation! 🤩 Short question: other videos on this topic talk about taking the weighted average of x and y. How/where does that fit within your explanation, sir?

    • @slavojivaneie1924
      @slavojivaneie1924 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tl;dr the "weighted average" stuff is supposed to motivate Jensen's inequality from probability. Read "f(E[X])" as "a function of weights" and "E[f(X)]" as "the weighted average of functions."
      If we apply the probability weights (t,1-t) to the interval endpoints a and b, we get ta+(1-t)b = W1, and if we apply the same weights to corresponding maps of the endpoints, f(a) and f(b), we get tf(a)+(1-t)f(b) = W2. The function f is concave over [a,b] if, for all weights (t,1-t), f(W1) ≥ W2. In other words, the value of a function of the weights (LHS) vs. the value of a weighted function (RHS).
      Jensen's inequality states that if f is *convex* (so f(W1) ≤ W2), and X is a random variable, then f(E[X]) ≤ E[f(X)]. If we think of taking the expectation of X as applying weights to the values that X can take on, then obtaining the expected value E[X] is much like getting W1. Thus, f(E[X]) is analogous to f(W1). Likewise, if we think of E[f(X)] as the weighted average of the random variable Y=f(X), then E[f(X)] weights f(X) to obtain W2.

    • @victoriacorcimaru1731
      @victoriacorcimaru1731 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@slavojivaneie1924Wow! Thank you!

  • @imaadnaeemansari8693
    @imaadnaeemansari8693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great explanation!!

  • @helawlodar9070
    @helawlodar9070 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you! this was very helpful!!!

  • @josephm276
    @josephm276 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent sir🌹🌹🌹🌹

  • @jakobnilsson4704
    @jakobnilsson4704 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome explanation

  • @FatjonZepol
    @FatjonZepol 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @jayneabrown
    @jayneabrown 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super helpful. Thank you so much.

  • @nq2c
    @nq2c 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this was super helpful thank you!

  • @bilenkeziban6237
    @bilenkeziban6237 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well explained, thank you!

  • @rohan45
    @rohan45 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation
    Thank you so much

  • @swatisingh559
    @swatisingh559 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is really good⚘️⚘️

  • @rishiraj5711
    @rishiraj5711 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this.❤

  • @hritikawadhawan6707
    @hritikawadhawan6707 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you post a video on how to do sums of this type

  • @ouafaeraibi7847
    @ouafaeraibi7847 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazingly explained, Thank you!

  • @ilivedinamericafor4years383
    @ilivedinamericafor4years383 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    sir your voice is so cool

  • @pratiksahu173
    @pratiksahu173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got this... 😊 Thanks a ton.. !!

  • @deeptysarder6797
    @deeptysarder6797 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice graphical explanation

  • @arwaalshikrian5354
    @arwaalshikrian5354 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Extremely helpful

  • @devinahluwalia9289
    @devinahluwalia9289 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was very helpful, cheers 🍺

  • @muzaffert
    @muzaffert ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciated🙏

  • @law9544
    @law9544 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are u guys majoring in?

  • @sreyanjali
    @sreyanjali ปีที่แล้ว

    this was very helpful

  • @SterlingRamroach
    @SterlingRamroach 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you pick an x or y such that f(x) or f(y) is the max value on the y-axis, then based on lambda, the right side of the eqn can be either < or > f(L). For example if the "curve" is a straight line. Also, if LHS == RHS, how can you tell if it's convex or concave?

    • @amberxv4777
      @amberxv4777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good question. I'd be willing to say that if f(x) or f(y) value were to endat infinity, then it would be neither concave or convex function. But we need confirmation

  • @hypebeastuchiha9229
    @hypebeastuchiha9229 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was really helpful thanks

  • @sigmamathematics2215
    @sigmamathematics2215 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got understand 1st time ❤❤❤

  • @orlandoheredia2380
    @orlandoheredia2380 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, good explanation, but about the strictly concave function, the λ should be ]0,1[, right ? Because if lambda can be 0 or 1, there would be a paradox as f(x) > f(x) in that case.

  • @dikshabagh30
    @dikshabagh30 ปีที่แล้ว

    really good video

  • @zainabhaider4369
    @zainabhaider4369 ปีที่แล้ว

    maybe a question. Why do we derive twice! We do not equate the first derivative with zero, as in Rolle's theorem.!! Why do we derive twice and not 3 or 4 times?

  • @dirkadrichem5468
    @dirkadrichem5468 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about the sine and cosine function?

  • @mohammedchowdhury4218
    @mohammedchowdhury4218 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    could you please help me understand how to check if this function f(x,y)=xy. How is it concave and how do I do the check for it

  • @mrak8948
    @mrak8948 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grt explanation

  • @voyagers5026
    @voyagers5026 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    just great thanks a lot

  • @viniciusbrilhante5112
    @viniciusbrilhante5112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a really good explanation! Very clear!

  • @primeview921
    @primeview921 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a problem understanding the nature of f. Is it a function a single variable or more?

  • @rodrigocalixto470
    @rodrigocalixto470 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't get it, how can you compare a point, f(λx+(1-λ)y), with a line f(λx) + (1-λ)f(y)?

  • @zainislam554
    @zainislam554 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you please confirm that how to find f(x) and f(y) , the points placed on vertical axis?

  • @albmrbo1
    @albmrbo1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @haqseiitian
    @haqseiitian ปีที่แล้ว

    thankyou bro...

  • @swatisingh3327
    @swatisingh3327 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @shubrajchuckowree5670
    @shubrajchuckowree5670 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent, but better use x1 and x2 rather than x and y to avoid confusion

  • @NNKNTA
    @NNKNTA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @denvernarvasa3033
    @denvernarvasa3033 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you :)

  • @iulianatoropoc5016
    @iulianatoropoc5016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eureka! She cried.

  • @JessaEstrada1315
    @JessaEstrada1315 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks!

  • @solounomas0
    @solounomas0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    And why is this for?

  • @handleyt2024
    @handleyt2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    legend

  • @williamgamelin154
    @williamgamelin154 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well dons and thanks for memory boost.

  • @j.brightlee3314
    @j.brightlee3314 4 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @fragamus
    @fragamus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @AMANDHOL-f7v
    @AMANDHOL-f7v หลายเดือนก่อน

    The content is okay, but brother you have to work on your speech , you're very monotonours.

  • @xhonimehmeti9432
    @xhonimehmeti9432 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wasted 22 min of my life