here is a view on it.. comedy is ridiculisation.. mostly of the.. or in expsence of, the ones in power.. we are currently ruled by bolshevics.. you are not allowed to make fun of them.. cause they are the chosen f*ckwits.. so they allready own hollywood thus own the writers.. so only one side is allowed to be ridiculed.. . and "the left" cant meme... i hope this helps you in any way.. \/
15:19 @JimmyTheGiant complaining that Comedy Movies have to make some Obvious political message. Cut to 16:35 and footage of Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb Make it make sense bruv make it make sense.
@@4Everlast No one tells Kubrick what to do bruh. "Red Alert" alternatively "2 Hours To Doom", the source material, was a similarly subversive anti-nuclear message.
One of the biggest points you missed is the loss in dvd sales. Back in the day a comedy movie could bomb in theatres but still make a profit through dvd sales. Now that they’re gone studios don’t want to take risk on a comedy when they will likely only make profit from its run in theatres. We’re living in an age of convenience and unfortunately it means we lose some of the old stuff.
Horror movies are very cheap to make, thats why even though they are in abundance. Is investing in a horror film a safer bet than investing in a comedy? What makes comedies so expensive- must be the writers and comedians demanding higher salaries?
@@juniorjames7076 that’s a good point but even with horror movies the low and mid budget ones are gone. Horror movies are also more theatrical so people are more willing to see them in theatres so I could see them being deemed less of a risk then a comedy.
On an episode of hot ones, Matt Damon was talking about why romcoms died and the main reason was they became to risky financially. In the 90/00`s if a romcom didn't profit in the theaters it always made its money back with vhs\dvd\ppv. With the age of Netflix and etc. its basically impossible to have a guarantee profit filming a romcom. So maybe this also applies to the death of comedy movies.
Well Amazon are making a lot of them at the moment aren't they? I don't watch them myself, not my sort of film but I'm subscribed to prime video so I keep getting the adverts.
Tbf that was more about mid-budget movies. It's not like we're going to get some blockbuster budget level comedy, but low-budget movies still exist, and many comedies could exist on a low budget considering it's mostly funny people in funny situations saying/doing funny things. You don't need a bunch of special effects or huge set pieces. Movies like Superbad, Stepbrothers, 40 Year Old Virgin, Borat, etc could all be made on pretty low budgets.
You made a great point with the super hero movies, Marvel has dialed up the comedy in their films and it sometimes it hurts the tone, like in the last Thor movie, it starts with a child diying in her fathers arms, a somber moment, and then you have screaming goats, a god, Zeus wearing skirts, and then they try to make it seriuos again at the end and it's a mess. And that's the "comedy" we've been getting for the past few years.
That’s an interesting perspective on *punching up* vs *punching down* in comedy. Enissa Amani mentioned a performance, wherein a wheelchair-bound woman called her out. The gist of it was, “Hey, you took a crack at every cultural and societal group. How come you left me out?”
I think one of the things that is killing comedy movies is the continuing trend of having the actors just ad-libbing rather than having a structured script that tells a coherent story. These ad-lib "comedies" wind up being nothing more than a collection of scenes where the stars are laboring to be funny, like Will Ferrell and John C. Reilly in the abysmal Holmes and Watson, or the dreck that was the 2016 Ghostbusters movie. After a while they all feel the same.
I swear to god the amount of "comedic" scenes that just ended with actors awkwardly trailing off and making a couple of aborted gestures before walking off screen was endemic in the 2010s.
During the writers strike, studio execs having meetings with comedians were talking about how they wanted to produce content with a "message," and that's the thing, not everything needs a message, it just needs to be funny.
Yet Ricky gervais has a message, and you like him. "It just needs to be funny" to me. The most funny people in the world who even the most salted figure cracks a smile at..... IS the person who understands the message. Weird at how you get the message at one point, then not the next. Sounds pretty performative to me. Almost signaling something?
@@Cs13762 its a repudiation of content free content. "it just needs to be funny" doesn't understand why people find certain things to be absurd. we often find things that are meaningful to us to be absurd if framed the right way, health struggles to be laughed at, bosses to be mocked, politicians to be lampooned, and priests to be caricatured. if it's meaningless to us, if there are no stakes involved, if it's easy and laid back, like a lawn it fades into the background, and becomes labeled "forgettable". the "message" if you will, is the meaning, is the serious undertone that is twisted and subverted to where it becomes funny. if theirs no serious undertone to twist, there's nothing to become funny. you can disagree with the message, you might disagree that the twist is funny or not, but to say "no message needed" is to not understand why people laugh. and if you don't understand why people laugh, your not going to understand why they stop laughing, which leads to bombing, heckling, and maybe even being booted off the show. or even worse, dragging the whole enterprise with you.
I missed the first for years of the 90s myself, but being born in 94 I still got a great chunk of time in the 90s. Comedies were off the chain back then leading into the 2000s. It was wrestling and comedies for me. Could sit there watching dumb and dumber laughing my ass of for hours on end along with Happy Gilmore
I think another aspect, not mentioned here, is the fact that the younger generations are now getting the majority of their comedy directly from on-line platforms like TH-cam, Tictok, etc. Unlike older generations, like Millennias, Gen-X and Boomers, they're not tied to film and TV for media consumption which, of course, includes comedies.
That's what I was thinking. When I think of comedy from the 2020s and late 2010s, I think of TH-cam videos. Kids never watch TV and only go to the theater to see superhero movies and animated movies.
Yeah, if anything the tonal shift really came from Guardians of the Galaxy which was two years before the deadpool movie, hell even ant man was a year before deadpool.
I miss just being able to mindlessly laugh at a movie without having to walk out of a theater thinking about the problems of the world. I watched the newest jackass in theater and I had such a great time haha But I get it studios don’t want to invest in movies that aren’t going to be a hit, I feel like a lot of people I personally know don’t go to the movies anyways and wait for it to stream.
Jackass forever is flat out depressing. Sober sad-sack burnouts, dudes in their fifties acting like teenagers, unlikable new dudes I could not care less about, and Dave England literally on the verge of tears with p.t.s.d. from being abused by Knoxville. It was legit sad.
Mel Brookes, "Blazing Saddles" and "Young Frankenstein", with Gene Wilder who teamed up with Richard Prior for "Hear no Evil, see no Evil", and then there was John Candy, "Who is Harry Crumb", "Uncle Buck" and who teamed up with Steve Martin for the iconic "Trains, Planes, and Automobiles" who in turn with Micheal Caine for "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels" and last but not least, "Christmas Vacation"
@@jpmnky Yes, you are right. However, if you only have thorough knowledge about a certain period of culture, you're not supposed to judge another, especially if it is literally a golden age of comedy and film making in general. being the 'last period when professionalism absolutely ruled.
You could say that for any decade before the 2010s really. I think he's focusing on the 2000s specifically because it was the last decade before Hollywood started focusing on comedy movies a lot less.
@@mr.awesome6011 You can breathe here but the talk is about laughing now. I can't even fathom who foists old movies upon you. Anyway, who cares when they were made if they are good?
@@benardman2665 Ricky was there for two reasons and he made that extremely clear; To point out how hypocritical Hollywood is and because he got paid. He wasn't pretending to be better than anyone, he was telling everyone else to stop acting like they're better than everyone just because they're famous.
I think another reason comedy ended up in its current state is because they are *one-off films,* not exactly the kind of films that could have franchise potential, unless the stars aligned properly; Studios have become so franchise happy, that comedy films no longer became viable for them. In addition, a comedy sequel is hard to try to live up to or top the first film's magic, and you have a comedic actor who is hesitant about repeating themselves by doing a sequel (example Jim Carrey).
Humor has also become ever-increasingly niche since the internet has blossomed. Back in the 00’s and prior, we referenced funny tv/movie scenes to each other. McLovin, Chappelle’s Show, Harold & Kumar, etc. Now (especially with Gen Z), humor is extremely internet meme-based. And the lifespan of literally anything on the internet is essentially that of a fly. Not to mention, Hollywood basically set the trends and culture for young people for such a long time. But now, the internet has claimed that title and Hollywood is desperately (and unsuccessfully) trying to be its lackey. Comedy movies can still exist, but I wish it didn’t try to appeal to young generations anymore. Like a movie like Dumb and Dumber or Superbad were just trying to tell these super engaging stories in the most comedic-enhancing way possible.
This is true. Im in college but like what people in Middle and High School, right now fromw hat i can tell what they think is funny is Skibidi Toilet and Ohio. And even fortnite dances. Its sad that is the new form of comedy
I could spend hours browsing videos in blockbuster. I can get through about 5 minutes scrolling through netflix before I turn the computer off and go outside. Society was better before technology took over.
I think superhero movies basically becoming the new comedies is a really salient point, especially when coupled with the idea that comedy movies were the biggest escapist genre, it really makes sense how superhero movies completely took over that niche. I think the other thing to consider is basically the internet overtook the pace of hollywood comedies. There was a time where most internet comedy and memes were basically just referencing jokes from movies, however around the mid-2010s there was definitely a shift to where now a movie is more likely to reference an internet meme than a meme is to reference a comedy movie. 22 Jump Street is a really good example since it's basically the last case of an internet meme (my name is jeff) originating from a comedy movie.
And it’s a shame too, because the Pentagon has been funding marvel for over a century. the movies are just reprints and reprogramming of the same story they told alread. zero creativity just pure, monetization and programming.
@@leob4403I’m tired of superhero movies. Actually it’s been a long time that I can’t take it anymore. Miss those crazy american comedies I used to watch.
@@EricNoneless you won't get them, will Ferrell, Ben stiller and guys like that said they won't do them no more, because critics and the Marvel/DC fanboy mob tear them down so badly and they tank at the box office, and the medias will push so hard for superhero and Disney movies, you won't get anything else. Marvel dad jokes and metaverse pseudo intellectual horse manure is considered the height and natural progression of comedy into more "mature" territories, the nerds and their giant egos have fully taken over the discourse
You didn’t mention the message within the title “This is the End”. This was arguably the last good comedy of this era which every important comedic actor assembled for, all knowing this would indeed be the end of great comedies.
My thoughts from the thumbnail is that comedy movies became so filled in by frat culture that they have lost what made comedy, comedy. It became about how many expletives you could cram into a few sentences, crotch kicks, and "OMG Hot Chick!"
I think that is something you and I would disagree with Jimmy on. I actually consider the 2000s as a low point in comedy because of the over saturation of frat boy/pot head movies. I'm not sure if it killed comedy, but it reminds me how the end of civilizations are usually preceded by an era of decadence.
The growth is the growth of a new era, not the death of an old one. I thought capitalists loved growth? Apparently except when it comes to ethical gain, then it's too much.
But frat comedies were funny as a general rule. American Pie, Road Trip, Old School, Van Wilder, Superbad etc are all classics and not really what the video is about.
Same way with sitcoms on television-- The Bob Newhart Show on CBS (w/the now departed star in the title, who was Chicago psychologist Dr. Bob Hartley) and Barney Miller on ABC (w/Hal Linden as the titular police captain in the fictional 12th Precinct of the Big Apple) were two 70s greats that I have esteemed well worth the money on DVD, because they were entertaining enough not to need the frat culture and the "hot chicks" like you mentioned (far as I recall).
Will simply got old. He's 56 now. He can't do all the slapstick or goofy jokes. They come across better when young or middle age but are more sad when old. Unless, it is about a 40-year-old son still living at home with mom. Is 61 year old Jim Carrey still talking out of his butt? Did they drag back 90 year old Chevy Chase for the latest Fletch film?
@@joelwillems4081 yeah, I agree that his style worked better when he was a younger guy. I actually think he’s funniest when he goes on talk shows and improvs with the host, whether it’s Fallon or Conan
Let’s face it, Adam Mackay also had benefited from Will Ferrell reigning him in a bit as well. “Willikers! What if terrible people… were TERRIBLE, but it’s a MOVIE?” Is Adam Mackay’s entire filmography post Will Ferrell.
@@joelwillems4081 Why has anyone ever found and Chevy Chase film funny, is beyond me. They're all either simply not funny or just straight up embarrassing.
@@joelwillems4081bollocks. Leslie Nielsen and much of his appeal was BECAUSE he was an old man leading in the most RIDDICULOUS comedies ever that still hold on like 40 years later.
There are good comedy movies going back to the 1930s. It happened last night and The Whole Town's talking for instance are 2 very enjoyable movies even today. However, many of these early comedy movies are dated and stilted. There are some great highlights throughout the decades, like 1954s The Court Jester that rank among the best comedies ever. Or The Life of Brian and Smokey and the Bandit in the 1970s. What's the Golden Age of Comedy? Probably the 80s that gave us a ton of super entertaining movies like Plains, Trains and Automobiles as well as cheesfests like Red Sonja that were hilarious for all the wrong reasons.
The weirdest thing to me is Will Ferrell making some of the funniest movies ever, then all of a sudden every movie hes starred in sucks. Step Brothers is still one of my all time favorites.
I feel this with a lot of the older comedy actors these days. I can't tell if it's just because we became so used to their gags it lost its appeal, or if they've suddenly got worse. Especially the ones that decided to try and do more serious roles, when they came back to comedy they didn't have that same charm anymore.
I watched The Nice Guys a few months back and i was surprised at How much laugh out loud moments there Were. I think it really comes down to What the creators of south park say. You have to have a good story and it should consist of ”this happens, therefore this happens, but then this happens”.
As a gay man myself. You have to laugh at yourself. And you can't be offended when you're watching a comedy or in a comedy club. No one is safe and that's what's good about it. The 2000s comedies were peak comedy. The movie "idiocracy" is one if my favorites. And is slowly becoming a documentary. Bridesmaids is funny too. 😂
(sigh) I hate it when someone says that movies like They Live and Idiocracy are slowly becoming a documentary of real life! Social commentary of real life does not equal documentary!
I find the "foreign market" part to be really infuriating. I'm from El Salvador and all those movies you mentioned were massive here and in Latin America in general. Language barriers were not a great issue, ESL audiences still watched and supported the films. Now, even though more people in these countries speak English, they understand English, they talk English more than ever before - they want to make no effort to consume media in English. It sucks because most of the films nowadays are dubbed, and if a movie doesn't have the budget to be dubbed, it just doesn't hit the theaters and I suspect it's the same in most of LATAM. If the silver lining of that was that people would consume more national, regional media, then I wouldn't care as much. But the result is that people only watch the same 4-6 Marvel or animated movies all year long. The fucking Minions movie last year was in theaters for 5 months!
And there is another factor, movies now no longer last months in theaters, except for that exception that you mentioned, many recover their investment quickly, and if they don't work they withdraw them, since in a few months or a month they will already be streaming, digital market or pirated. I also say that the dubbing of Mexico greatly helped the proliferation of many Hollywood comedy films and series (as well as other genres), even making it funnier to latin american audiences, inserting jokes/idioms that worked abroad, some films were trashy but dubbing really helped them, sometimes making it more decent. I guess if people who donsen't speak english watches some of these shows and films in it's original audio/languague, they wouldn't find it funny, just like it happened when my Mom when watched The Big Bang Theory on english for the first time, Luis Alfonso Mendoza (R. I. P.) did a great job dubbing Sheldon Cooper, even the actress who voiced Bernadette, not everyone can reach those high-pitched tones, even Melissa Rauch would be grateful to hear her voice in spanish since it is the closest to the original. Of course, due to several reasons, some voice actors could replace others in their characters, which bothers audiences, those 2 characters that I mentioned remained with their respective voice actors from beginning to end.
My favourite comedy of all time is "Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story". The perfect parody which Queen then remade as "Bohemian Rhapsody"... High Praise indeed.
I hate to be that guy who points this out, but the rise and fall of Internet humor was also a defining factor. Not only because anyone with a camera could be touted as a comedy star, but also because, in the long run, people began associating comedy with cringey jokes to the point these became synonymous. That's why dramedies took hold in the 2010s as a more sophisticated alternative while most superhero and animated films have filled the void left to some point.
I'm truly blessed to have lived my youth through the 90s and 00s. I grew up with classic and hilarious comedies and even some funny and scary horror movies like scream 1 and 2. Matthew Lillard gave a once in a lifetime performance with stu macher. He was terrifying and hilarious simultaneously which is extremely difficult and I've never seen someone pull off such a dual performance where each part elevated the other so much. 90s and 00s truly was the golden age of movies in my opinion also with music
I’m technically Early Gen Z (b. 1998) but I agree with you, I pretty much grew up with alot of the same movies & music that later Millennials did. I’m glad I’m not part of the current generation who is growing up during this overly-political age of movies and a pandemic
My favorite's are Airplane, Top Secret, The Naked Gun Trilogy, Hot Shots, Scary Movie 1 through 4, Not Another Teen Movie and Mel Brooks Spoofs. With TV I loved The Benny Hill Show, Married....with Children, In Living Color, MadTV, Night Court (The original).
Comedy films died because of godawful writing. The reliance on "random" humour and bad improv just wasn't sustainable and it collapsed. It's sad that many comedy writers these days apparently don't know how to craft a joke.
@@Rarefied-Air It really is disgusting how dishonest people are. Leftist propaganda ruined entertainment. It's not a secret that propaganda has _never_ made for quality entertainment. But nope! No, sirree! No leftist propaganda here! No Marxism/anti-capitalism, no environmentalism, no "feminism", no racialism, no homosexualism suddenly mandated in every major movie and video game (and novel). _It's just bad writing!_ That's all!
I agree. If you look at movies like 'Dumb and Dumber' the characters may be stupid but the writing is brilliant. Even to this day I pick up on little details or gags I have not noticed before. Zoolander is another movie that appears dumb but has really good writing.
It's more like an entire generation grew up not knowing how to write inherently funny bits. We can probably blame the internet/meme culture for that. The meme is funny because it's a meme. Not because there's anything inherently funny about it. If you don't know the meme, you don't laugh; it only becomes funny because of the repitition and familiarity. So it only appeals to a small subset of people who do know the meme. It's the lowest form of comedy and it doesn't work on screen.
I recently watched a few comedy movies from the 1930s and I was amazed at how funny they actually were, one was the original "Mr Deeds" with Gary Cooper instead of Adam Sandler and I would even say it was better, then "Arsenic and old lace" with Cary Grant and "Bringing up baby" with Katherine Hepburn, If you have any general interest in the past I highly recommend it, just seeing the cars, the clothes, the acting and way they talk is interesting (and most importantly the movies are funny) and in case your wondering I'm 33yo (not 90 lol) but I assure if you can appreciate something from before your own time you'll probably like them
Arsenic & Old Lace was a work of genius, and how dark was it? If you want to check some others out, try We're No Angels with Bogart & Harvey with Jimmy Stewart. Both are brilliant
If you want to go even further back, Buster Keaton has some pretty good comedies. I love "Steamboat Bill Jr." And another good Cary Grant movie is "Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House."
They did a reaction video with Gen Z, it had several movies just like these and they didn't find any of these films funny whatsoever. In fact some called them ageist, misogynist, racist, sexist, bigot, fat phobic and other terms. It's safe to say the new generation will not like this style of humor, sadly. But somehow superhero movies are what they crave.
Im a Gen Z and grew up with a lot these movies and their miles better than the whatever they call comedy today and that's coming from a guy with a dry sense of humor😂
You hit the nail on the head about modern examples: they are always making a really obvious point. They talk about punching up and down, but they just constantly strawman and treat that as comedy.
Thank you for giving “The Death of Stalin” some love. Funniest movie I’ve seen in years. “In the Loop” would be a good addition to your 00’s/early-10’s list.
TDOS was the first movie I thought of when he said no good news then I checked and it was 2017 but that is one of the funniest I have seen and its basically all true!
Great analysis , thank u for not taking the easy out and just blaming cancel culture, i actually think while a contributing factor, its the other issues you spoke on that are the real culprits
"Jokes that might land in America, might not be funny in other countries." There's a finite amount of times you can watch a guy eat literal shit before you find it disgusting and not the least bit funny. Not in the English-speaking parts of the world, though. As soon as you say "shit" or "fart," someone will start laughing hysterically. I will never understand that.
There are other key factors of why comedies aren't on the big screens any longer: •Studios tend to release more comedies onto streaming apps/platforms with the idea that people would watch comedies at home than in the theaters. •Weather seasons: fall/winter = romance & Oscar nominee dramas run the theaters spring/summer = action-packed blockbusters run the theaters •A lot of newer comedians aren't that funny or even known to even carry a movie •The world has been so niche where we're all aren't watching the same thing •Comedies keep repeating the same ideas & tropes where they don't seem enjoyable.
Yeah Tbh those podcasters are boring and most people really don't like straight stand up comedy. I think it's been really reduced to a level below bargain bin for movie studios and streaming.
I hope comedy returns soon! We need it. I think we should also consider the amazing comedy’s made in the 70’s The Jerk, blazing saddles, caddie shack, animal house. So funny 🤣 that was another golden era of comedy. Those movies would be so offensive to a lot of people now.
Before the social media era, people had to go to comedy shows or watch movies to consume comedy. Today, people consume funny stuff everyday without even searching on various platforms. Everyday someone posts something funny on the group chat for example. This has diluted the novelty of going to see comedy movies hence why the genre is not as successful as it was. Also a lot of funny people today exist in the form of content creators not actors
Not my first time watching this vid, and it's almost a year old now, but your comment is pin-worthy. It nails why comedy films suck now-too much competition from user-generated content.
Can’t believe the Farrelly Brothers didn’t get a mention! Honestly Me Myself and Irene is such an underrated movie. Something About Mary never loses its shine.
When a comedy movie costing tens of millions to make is less funny than a TH-cam video of an idiot walking around Walmart making fart noises and recording the reactions, you know it’s time to throw in the towel.
Great video! I only have one comment... Deadpool as a movie is just like Deadpool in the comics as he has been since 1991. One of Deadpools comic book superpowers is being aware he's in a comic book and breaking the 4th wall. I completely agree with the other super hero films like Guardians of the Galaxy just trying to edge in on comedy even though they were never originally that way.
Exactly Deadpool is super meta. One of my favourite comics with him is where he kills the entire Marvel universe, finishing with his own writers, so he can die too.
I remember someone saying that comedy (at least certain comedy) is rooted in absurdity, and that the reason we don’t find comedy as much is because of how absurd things have gotten. I blame cancel culture for this, but also how divided and remarkably stubborn people and governments have become.
You can't just begin the video by mentioning how comedy often serves as a "vessel for political messages" and then proceed to criticize modern comedy movies for "being political" It isn't cancel culture or "people being darn liberal snowflakes!", it's just that other movies have taken their place. Once upon a time (in Hollywood?), goofy white comedy movies were the shit. This doesn't mean people have lost their sense of humor or that they've gotten "easily offended", it just means the trend is over. In a sense, the goofy, simple but culturally significant comedy from those movies has been transferred to modern big-budget movies. Take a look at GOTG for example. Big-budget movies like Oppenheimer, Ant-Man or The Little Mermaid were box-office winners 2005 as well, but those movies did not have the same kind of dialogue as modern big-budget movies. Barbie and Super Mario are comedies but also big-budget movies. See where I'm getting at?
Happily, there are dozens (if not hundreds) of comedy movies we havent seen yet that we can still watch for the first time, as well as re-watching our old favorites.
I thought of the famous “I work with r-words” from There’s Something About Mary lol. I didn’t realize it until watching it recently but they say it in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory too. A kid’s movie lol. The 2000’s were truly a different time.
The Judd Apatow era from the 200s was a reaction to a death of R rated comedies of the 90s. Most ereas of movies are reactions to previous periods and I think we'll get back to that again. Probably not as in your face as the Xtreme Attitude era of the early 2000s, but another new normal. I thought Bros was great, but its really more of a romantic comedy than just a straight comedy movie. The Nice Guys was in 2016, but that movie is a modern classic, more people need to watch that.
So you're saying comedy movies will return to the top when they become the reaction to the absurd emotion-based decision making of this era? Oooh weee, that's gonna be hilariously defensive to the hateful bullies of the alphabet mafia.
There also seems to be gaps between generations retiring, and the new generation stepping up or being given similar resources. Can’t even remember last time Apatow made a movie.
@@jskrabac I can't answer for electrofyingct, but I know my wife hates Will. She thinks he's not even slightly funny, and would probably have said exactly the same thing. She'd say unfunny comedies starring Will Ferrell killed comedies.
yea I think if you watch his movies as a teen or early 20s they are kind of funny but you can tell the quality just isn't that great. In my 30's, even these so called classics like anchorman are just too painful to watch. All of the humour is too similar and using all of the same characters/type of jokes gets very old quick.
@@josieclarke460 I just took a plane flight, and on the entertainment system was Anchorman. I had never see it before, and after commenting here, I thought I'd give it a try. I stopped before I got through the opening credits. It was Will saying odd/obnoxious things to people off camera. I didn't laugh at all. Ya, just painful. I felt if that was a sign of things to come, I might as well find a different movie, so I did.
As a 100% native bilingual, The english language not translating well is 100% true. Even some simple jokes in lets say a marvel film, i read the translation in Korean and its SO OFF. I was the only guy laughing at the theater for some of those jokes.
My favorite comedy is Blazing Saddles. Look at the main plot: A man gets put into a situation where his main purpose is to fail, but he turns it around and saves himself and a town that hated him. Along the way, breaking stereotypes... sometimes.
Remember when you were a kid and you wondered why adults always talked about how everything was better "back in the day"? Well, it looks like that kid grew up.
Everyone does it. Actual maturity is realising the moments when we do it and accept that we grew too old. There's a great episode in the new season of it's always sunny that takes place in a Dave& busters type arcade. The 40 year old moaning that the arcade has changed and became too pc since they were there, and then frank moaning that it's changed since his day because there's no more racist jokes ..to which the 40 year olds push back on him for being too old etc.
This is a bit different. I was born in 1966, so logically by the late 90s early 2000s I would say that the movies before were better. I actually didn't think stuff started going downhill until after 2015. In fact my favorite time period to live would be around 2000 to 2010, well after my youth. And many young people also see things as going way down after 2015. There are objective reasons for this.
There are just so many ways where it is unnecessary to the point of becoming exceedingly difficult to have shared experiences with people you don't have to know if it doesn't serve a specific function. The increased use of the available technology (the internet, streaming, AI, etc.) has allowed us not to have to interact with each other. People text instead of call. People use memes to know what often takes novels to understand. People stay at home instead of going out for eating, entertainment, work, etc. The lack of shared experiences leads to lack of communication and varying but unchallenged perspectives. Comedy derives from some sense of a twist to an accepted reality. But if realty relies on a shared perspective, and less and less perspective is shared, then comedy is harder to appreciate. It is not so much electronics as much as it is the misuse of those products leading to isolation despite the fingertip capacity to connect to a wider world.
I think it goes even deeper than "we can't be offensive anymore". Comedy is the canary in the coal mine for the current level of sophistication and intelligence of writers. Other genres can distract the audience with loud sounds and lush visual spectacle, but comedy is all in the writing... so good comedies can't exist without really good scripts (for me, the peak will always be Neil Simon's plays turned into movies, with masterpieces like Barefoot in the Park, the Odd Couple and the Sunshine Boys). Maybe there are still some good screenwriters in the world, but they can't work in Hollywood, where meritocracy was replaced with politics and diversity hires; and the way young people live today, without many hardships and real experiences, completely isolated in their bubble, stunts their growth as storytellers.
In terms of financial returns, I think that since a lot of people are in rough financial times people who even go to the movies at all are much more selective about what they go see. For me that’s always been the case, where I need to assess if a movie is worth seeing on the big screen. Action, thriller, and certain horror movies are almost always worth more to see on the big screen when compared to comedies. Think of your top 10 favorite comedies, and then think of if they’d be experienced any differently being viewed on the 55’ big screen for $21 per ticket compared to being watched at home on your 55” tv. Comedies are viewed for the words, not the spectacle.
I do think that comedies are starting to make a comeback. Just within the last several months we've had a variety of comedies such as Rye Lane, Polite Society, No Hard Feelings, Strays, Joy Ride, and Bottoms. However, some of them have just not done well at the box office. So while I do think that comedy needs to be a little less restrained on the jokes that are made, there are comedies still coming out that need support. Bottoms alone has the potential to be a classic if it just gets more attention.
I think the fact that I only know one of those, vaguely aware of one of those, they both look terrible, and haven't even heard of the others, is kinda telling that they aren't coming back. They may have been made, but they did abysmal
Bottoms was definitely a failure. It was like a high school student wrote the script. They needed to consult a comedian about how to set up a joke. They tried to replicate other successful comedies but then didn't understand how to set it up so it was funny, instead of a parody. No Hard Feelings was fine but they didn't cross the line. Jennifer Lawrence knows how to carry a scene but the lines/action didn't meet her defiant attitude (she didn't cross the line to make us laugh out loud). Which is what you pointed out about less restrained!
As somebody who loves Action and martial arts movies polite society was a letdown the trailers made it look like a comedy that was a love letter to action and martial Arts fans. They made it look like scott pilgrim, kung fu hustle and kill bill(more funny) but then its nothing more than a soap opera mixed with jordan peele's get out. On paper the movie sounded cool but was poorly executed. It takes place in the uk could they not have hired Scott Adkins or Ray Park for choreography? No Hard Feels is overated i m sorry it just felt like a bad attemptAmerican Pie, Van Wilder and 40 year old virgin in one. Girl next door is still the best in that genre. Its woke as hell jlaw male friend with the preg wife s insulted for being a man. Ironically jlaw is cancelled for being a biggot at a frat party but not taken advantage of a teen? Lol. Bill Burr new movie sucked too i hes the bad guy when most of the issues his character faces aren't his fault. Sandler is losing too with the new movie with hus daughter
Recently watched "The Lost City" and I went down this same rabbit hole. Being a kid growing up in the 90s and 2000s was some good times: Dumb and Dumber, Nacho Libre, Napoleon Dynamite.
I rewatch 90s and 2000s comedies regularly just to remind myself how good movies should look like. My favorite genre is action comedy, mastered by Jackie Chan, and Taxi (a Luc Besson film). We just don't have it anymore...
Guys I think it’s time we give Jimmy his props. He made the funniest joke of all time at the start of this video and didn’t even brag or mention it like he could have. What a stand up guy
I do feel people back in the 2000s were less likely to get offended by its jokes, nowadays its moslty about being excepting of others ways and soon as you mock them it creates the backlash. makes sence why little britain was stopped and taken off the tv channels cause it offended people in the recent generations. End of the day, trends change same as humor and it cant always be there ever lasting sadly.
I sure hope comedy makes a comeback in films. For real, my friends and I make jokes all the time some of which are messed up but c’mon we laugh at each other.
The fact that we’re seeing this occur also means people are hungry for a good comedy. It’s the perfect time for someone new to step it up and deliver something original, which ideally would be about all the things we’re not supposed to joke about anymore.
I never got Robin Williams comedies. I always thought it such a shame that such an amazing actor wasted so much time trying to be funny when he could have made more serious films instead.
@JamalW239 Adam Sandler was 90s then 2000s. Happy Gilmore up to Little Nicky where all in the 90s. Everyone thought after big daddy he fell of. Eddie Murphy is 80s AF. He had 2 big hits in the 90s; Dr Doolittle and the nutty professor, which both are pretty bad compared to, trading places, Beverly hills cop, and coming to America. It is stated many times the Eddie Murphy was THEE comic of the 80s...Total goat.
Bro, Deadpool has been talking to the 4th wall since he started in the comics. It wouldn't be a Deadpool film with him not being self aware!! Same with She Hulk, she broke the 4th wall before Deadpool did it.
Andy Sambergs film Popstar would have absolutely decimated the scene in the 90s or early 00s, but it released in 2016 and bombed (according to wiki: grossing just over $9 million against a budget of $20 million). It is a genuinely good comedy film, it feels like it's from the era being discussed here but with contemorary references and reflections on the modern music industry (now dated lol).
@@Ler-ky1tz I just watched Derz telling Steve-O all about this. What a shame! I guess the studio wasn't sure if they could make money on it, so just wrote it off on their taxes as a loss instead of finishing filming. At least we still have Game Over, Man!
Man the 2000's was my middle school, high school, and early college years. All those comedies from 2003 to 2007 when I was in high school were a huge part of my high school career. Our quoting of these movies was a big part of our lunch breaks, gym classes, regular classes, and even in our extra curricular activities like the football, wrestling, and basketball teams.
memes before the digital age. So much better. Even internet memes were funny when they were relatively unknown and less accessible to make or even view. When FB memes happened, it all died a cringeworthy death.
In the 2000s you had to sense of humor. It's because of what we lived through, you HAD to laugh. That's why we had so many great comedies from our era. I refuse to change or become lame and boring like everyone else our age now.
I don't think you're special. Plenty of people your age want to laugh, but a lot of young people are turning to the internet for a good laugh, because Hollywood is lacking the carefree humor it once had when we were children. I laugh a lot more when watching content from gen z TH-camrs than I do when watching some safe "comedy" that some middle aged rich guy who is stuck in their bubble has made these days. It's really the older generations who are to blame for catering to the ultra serious and anti-comedy culture that most young people don't actually care about, that they themselves started and promoted but are blaming on us for.
I agree with this actually. The 2000s were a strange mix of the death of the optimism of the 90s, the collective trauma of 9/11 and the War on Terror and the rise of the early internet with its offensive, off-beat and random humor. You really cant recreate those social conditions again.
@@SAsh-zg6ln Get Hard had a few decent laughs. It wasn't iconic though. There's no one repeating bits from it or dressing up like the characters for Halloween.
A lot of people are mentioning DVD sales and that’s a good point. If we consider streaming, I think comedy TV shows may have picked up where films left off. We’ve had tons of iconic comedy shows - The Office, Parks and Recreation, Arrested Development, Community, The Good Place, Veep. Too many to list. Comedy doesn’t seem to have died, it just went to streaming, and podcasts/stand up, like you mentioned. It just moved location. Think of the cultural impact of shows like The Office and Arrested Development.
2003-2019 arrested development last few seasons were bad 2005-2013 the office Cant speak to many of the others, but most recent ones are still no where near as iconic
Parks and Recreation 2009-2015 Community 2009-2015 The first run of Arrested Development accounts for 99% of it's cultural impact, and that was 2003-2006.
Blaming “cancel culture” is too weak of a reason. Especially when a lot of it comes down to studios cutting costs and trying to make a much money as possible. They only widely market whatever they think will make the most money with are franchise films, ie superhero films and remakes/sequels to previously popular franchises. If you actually step out of that bubble that the big companies have you in then you’d find there are still great comedy films out there. But nobody’s gonna do that because every thing not super mainstream is too “woke” for them.
Well he did mention some other factors too. Bit cancel culture is absolutely part of the equation. It's not just comedy movies going down the tubes, but comedians have had shows cancelled numerous times for being politically incorrect, they've self-flagellated publicly for making jokes, tried to take funny shows/movies back cos they now are offensive, and so on. It's not weak, it's definitely part of the situation.
They're making movies for Twitter because people think Twitter represents society today. "10% of Twitter Users Are Responsible for 92% of Tweets." At least Deadpool was comic accurate so you can't blame him there.
The death of these comedy films has coincides with the death of the Romcom as well. When you think about it most of these comedy films of the 2000's where kinda like Romcom's but for dudes. The anti Chick Flick if you will. What is the 40 Year Old Virgin, Crazy Stupid Love, or even Talladega Nights as movies if not about these guys who fail in their relationships but then succeed after they learn to grow up in some way? Or realize their true love was with their best friend the whole time. Either way, this means their identity as movies was closely linked to another kinds of films that also would dry up at the same time in the digital age.
The reason why English character humour usually beats American character humour out is because American humour is predominantly on the nose there’s nothing awkward or unspoken. English humour is usually very dark, sadistic or roots in black humour (not Afro American) but dark subject matter humour. Dark comedy is not crass. This is usually what American humour gets wrong about English humour.
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here is a view on it.. comedy is ridiculisation.. mostly of the.. or in expsence of, the ones in power.. we are currently ruled by bolshevics.. you are not allowed to make fun of them.. cause they are the chosen f*ckwits.. so they allready own hollywood thus own the writers.. so only one side is allowed to be ridiculed.. . and "the left" cant meme... i hope this helps you in any way.. \/
Hangover blackjack scene? Saw it 3x don't even remember that besides being a lazy way to continue the story. No Napoleon Dynamite?!
15:19 @JimmyTheGiant complaining that Comedy Movies have to make some Obvious political message. Cut to 16:35 and footage of Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb Make it make sense bruv make it make sense.
@@juanvasquez6535 Yeah but, did Kubrick want to make it that way, or was he told/made to make what he made the way he made it?
@@4Everlast No one tells Kubrick what to do bruh. "Red Alert" alternatively "2 Hours To Doom", the source material, was a similarly subversive anti-nuclear message.
One of the biggest points you missed is the loss in dvd sales. Back in the day a comedy movie could bomb in theatres but still make a profit through dvd sales. Now that they’re gone studios don’t want to take risk on a comedy when they will likely only make profit from its run in theatres. We’re living in an age of convenience and unfortunately it means we lose some of the old stuff.
All movies are impacted by this?
It's left wing politics that did this. Pathetic, sjw, perpetual victims.
Yeah. That makes sense.
Yup, Matt Damon actually talked about this for movies in general on his Hot Ones episode.
Horror movies are very cheap to make, thats why even though they are in abundance. Is investing in a horror film a safer bet than investing in a comedy? What makes comedies so expensive- must be the writers and comedians demanding higher salaries?
@@juniorjames7076 that’s a good point but even with horror movies the low and mid budget ones are gone. Horror movies are also more theatrical so people are more willing to see them in theatres so I could see them being deemed less of a risk then a comedy.
On an episode of hot ones, Matt Damon was talking about why romcoms died and the main reason was they became to risky financially. In the 90/00`s if a romcom didn't profit in the theaters it always made its money back with vhs\dvd\ppv. With the age of Netflix and etc. its basically impossible to have a guarantee profit filming a romcom. So maybe this also applies to the death of comedy movies.
Well Amazon are making a lot of them at the moment aren't they? I don't watch them myself, not my sort of film but I'm subscribed to prime video so I keep getting the adverts.
It's left wing politics that did this. Pathetic, sjw, perpetual victims.
Yeah its funny seeing old classic movies like idiocracy now being found by new generation on streaming movies and they end up liking them
Tbf that was more about mid-budget movies. It's not like we're going to get some blockbuster budget level comedy, but low-budget movies still exist, and many comedies could exist on a low budget considering it's mostly funny people in funny situations saying/doing funny things. You don't need a bunch of special effects or huge set pieces.
Movies like Superbad, Stepbrothers, 40 Year Old Virgin, Borat, etc could all be made on pretty low budgets.
I'm glad the rom-com is dead... complete crap genre...
You made a great point with the super hero movies, Marvel has dialed up the comedy in their films and it sometimes it hurts the tone, like in the last Thor movie, it starts with a child diying in her fathers arms, a somber moment, and then you have screaming goats, a god, Zeus wearing skirts, and then they try to make it seriuos again at the end and it's a mess. And that's the "comedy" we've been getting for the past few years.
And lady thor.
Sometimes is a huge understatement
That’s an interesting perspective on *punching up* vs *punching down* in comedy. Enissa Amani mentioned a performance, wherein a wheelchair-bound woman called her out. The gist of it was, “Hey, you took a crack at every cultural and societal group. How come you left me out?”
@@vids595if anything,what I see are comic fans basically saying "Look how they massacred my girl.",comparing it to the comic "The Mighty Thor"
The Force Awakens: Opening scene where the Sith lord is slaughtering everyone, and the captured pilot is making quips in front of the main villian.
I think one of the things that is killing comedy movies is the continuing trend of having the actors just ad-libbing rather than having a structured script that tells a coherent story. These ad-lib "comedies" wind up being nothing more than a collection of scenes where the stars are laboring to be funny, like Will Ferrell and John C. Reilly in the abysmal Holmes and Watson, or the dreck that was the 2016 Ghostbusters movie. After a while they all feel the same.
I swear to god the amount of "comedic" scenes that just ended with actors awkwardly trailing off and making a couple of aborted gestures before walking off screen was endemic in the 2010s.
During the writers strike, studio execs having meetings with comedians were talking about how they wanted to produce content with a "message," and that's the thing, not everything needs a message, it just needs to be funny.
That message is white people bad
I heard somewhere that television was only invented to brainwash the masses. Hence turning everything into "a message".
Yet Ricky gervais has a message, and you like him. "It just needs to be funny" to me.
The most funny people in the world who even the most salted figure cracks a smile at..... IS the person who understands the message.
Weird at how you get the message at one point, then not the next. Sounds pretty performative to me. Almost signaling something?
@@ethanstump lol wtf was that
@@Cs13762 its a repudiation of content free content. "it just needs to be funny" doesn't understand why people find certain things to be absurd. we often find things that are meaningful to us to be absurd if framed the right way, health struggles to be laughed at, bosses to be mocked, politicians to be lampooned, and priests to be caricatured. if it's meaningless to us, if there are no stakes involved, if it's easy and laid back, like a lawn it fades into the background, and becomes labeled "forgettable". the "message" if you will, is the meaning, is the serious undertone that is twisted and subverted to where it becomes funny. if theirs no serious undertone to twist, there's nothing to become funny.
you can disagree with the message, you might disagree that the twist is funny or not, but to say "no message needed" is to not understand why people laugh. and if you don't understand why people laugh, your not going to understand why they stop laughing, which leads to bombing, heckling, and maybe even being booted off the show. or even worse, dragging the whole enterprise with you.
Can’t believe how lucky I was to grow up in the 90s and 00s, so many good comedies … even the bad ones I’m kinda missing
I missed the first for years of the 90s myself, but being born in 94 I still got a great chunk of time in the 90s. Comedies were off the chain back then leading into the 2000s. It was wrestling and comedies for me. Could sit there watching dumb and dumber laughing my ass of for hours on end along with Happy Gilmore
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Lol, anybody remember Blankman from the 90s?
Watched a Meh comedy (According to my dad who is a big Gene Wilder fan) , the woman in red. Not his best but the comedy is still brilliant.
Best comedy film of all time Dumb and Dumber!
I think another aspect, not mentioned here, is the fact that the younger generations are now getting the majority of their comedy directly from on-line platforms like TH-cam, Tictok, etc. Unlike older generations, like Millennias, Gen-X and Boomers, they're not tied to film and TV for media consumption which, of course, includes comedies.
That's what I was thinking. When I think of comedy from the 2020s and late 2010s, I think of TH-cam videos. Kids never watch TV and only go to the theater to see superhero movies and animated movies.
(I'm a bit late to this party 😅), but yeah, I'm currently getting my comedy from @JimmyTheGiant ...and I'm 50!
In his defense, Deadpool has been breaking the forth wall since Deadpool #28 (1997). Being self aware was simply true to character.
Yeah, if anything the tonal shift really came from Guardians of the Galaxy which was two years before the deadpool movie, hell even ant man was a year before deadpool.
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He pointed that
I had the same thought when he brought up ol deadpool
@@ghostinplainsight4803 There's something that needs to die. Having something to add to the conversation doesn't make you a contrarian nerd.
I miss just being able to mindlessly laugh at a movie without having to walk out of a theater thinking about the problems of the world. I watched the newest jackass in theater and I had such a great time haha
But I get it studios don’t want to invest in movies that aren’t going to be a hit, I feel like a lot of people I personally know don’t go to the movies anyways and wait for it to stream.
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they're not investing bcz no one's going to see them. Jackass didn't make that much money. Any time they throw us a bone, the movie tanks
honestly, I could not muster one laugh with the last jackass
Jackass forever is flat out depressing. Sober sad-sack burnouts, dudes in their fifties acting like teenagers, unlikable new dudes I could not care less about, and Dave England literally on the verge of tears with p.t.s.d. from being abused by Knoxville. It was legit sad.
Mel Brookes, "Blazing Saddles" and "Young Frankenstein", with Gene Wilder who teamed up with Richard Prior for "Hear no Evil, see no Evil", and then there was John Candy, "Who is Harry Crumb", "Uncle Buck" and who teamed up with Steve Martin for the iconic "Trains, Planes, and Automobiles" who in turn with Micheal Caine for "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels" and last but not least, "Christmas Vacation"
The '80-s and '90's deserve much more recognition. At least hundred great comedies in each of these decades.
To be fair he’s a 2010s teenager and is doing a critique on comedy films in his lifetime, the ones that came out when he was a teen.
@@jpmnky Yes, you are right. However, if you only have thorough knowledge about a certain period of culture, you're not supposed to judge another, especially if it is literally a golden age of comedy and film making in general. being the 'last period when professionalism absolutely ruled.
You could say that for any decade before the 2010s really. I think he's focusing on the 2000s specifically because it was the last decade before Hollywood started focusing on comedy movies a lot less.
I think the 80's and 90's get mercilessly shoved down our throats enough. I get it with the decline of comedies but fuckshit I need to breathe here
@@mr.awesome6011 You can breathe here but the talk is about laughing now. I can't even fathom who foists old movies upon you. Anyway, who cares when they were made if they are good?
Ricky Gervais roasting a Hollywood in 2020 was the most poignant and honest comedy in the last few years.
It was fucking amazing
I don't think so at all. Hes pretending like hes above and better than it all. And if he actually was. He wouldn't be there lol
@@benardman2665 He was not there as an ally.
@@benardman2665 Ricky was there for two reasons and he made that extremely clear; To point out how hypocritical Hollywood is and because he got paid. He wasn't pretending to be better than anyone, he was telling everyone else to stop acting like they're better than everyone just because they're famous.
Dave Chappelle’s SNL monologue was more recent I think
I think another reason comedy ended up in its current state is because they are *one-off films,* not exactly the kind of films that could have franchise potential, unless the stars aligned properly; Studios have become so franchise happy, that comedy films no longer became viable for them. In addition, a comedy sequel is hard to try to live up to or top the first film's magic, and you have a comedic actor who is hesitant about repeating themselves by doing a sequel (example Jim Carrey).
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Humor has also become ever-increasingly niche since the internet has blossomed.
Back in the 00’s and prior, we referenced funny tv/movie scenes to each other. McLovin, Chappelle’s Show, Harold & Kumar, etc.
Now (especially with Gen Z), humor is extremely internet meme-based. And the lifespan of literally anything on the internet is essentially that of a fly.
Not to mention, Hollywood basically set the trends and culture for young people for such a long time. But now, the internet has claimed that title and Hollywood is desperately (and unsuccessfully) trying to be its lackey.
Comedy movies can still exist, but I wish it didn’t try to appeal to young generations anymore. Like a movie like Dumb and Dumber or Superbad were just trying to tell these super engaging stories in the most comedic-enhancing way possible.
This is true. Im in college but like what people in Middle and High School, right now fromw hat i can tell what they think is funny is Skibidi Toilet and Ohio. And even fortnite dances. Its sad that is the new form of comedy
I could spend hours browsing videos in blockbuster.
I can get through about 5 minutes scrolling through netflix before I turn the computer off and go outside.
Society was better before technology took over.
Aaah the 2000s, where morbid things had blue tint, happy things had yellow tint, and artistic things were high dynamic range.
And video games were brown tinted for whatever reason.
And anything based in Mexico was always orange.
@@JustinMcVicar Or yellow, look at Breaking Bad.
I'll take that over the generic color movies we have today.
I think theres something to be said about how so many studios have been accquired by huge parent companys that just want to play it safe.
I think superhero movies basically becoming the new comedies is a really salient point, especially when coupled with the idea that comedy movies were the biggest escapist genre, it really makes sense how superhero movies completely took over that niche. I think the other thing to consider is basically the internet overtook the pace of hollywood comedies. There was a time where most internet comedy and memes were basically just referencing jokes from movies, however around the mid-2010s there was definitely a shift to where now a movie is more likely to reference an internet meme than a meme is to reference a comedy movie. 22 Jump Street is a really good example since it's basically the last case of an internet meme (my name is jeff) originating from a comedy movie.
And for how much longer will people keep watching these superhero movies, I think there is fatigue already
And it’s a shame too, because the Pentagon has been funding marvel for over a century. the movies are just reprints and reprogramming of the same story they told alread. zero creativity just pure, monetization and programming.
@@leob4403I’m tired of superhero movies. Actually it’s been a long time that I can’t take it anymore. Miss those crazy american comedies I used to watch.
@@EricNoneless you won't get them, will Ferrell, Ben stiller and guys like that said they won't do them no more, because critics and the Marvel/DC fanboy mob tear them down so badly and they tank at the box office, and the medias will push so hard for superhero and Disney movies, you won't get anything else. Marvel dad jokes and metaverse pseudo intellectual horse manure is considered the height and natural progression of comedy into more "mature" territories, the nerds and their giant egos have fully taken over the discourse
@@leob4403 yep, that's just sad.
You didn’t mention the message within the title “This is the End”. This was arguably the last good comedy of this era which every important comedic actor assembled for, all knowing this would indeed be the end of great comedies.
Love that movie
That movie sucked
@@bond007spectre7 compared to anything that came out after , no it didn’t
@@bond007spectre7 Thanks for taking the time to be so eloquent
that was not a good movie
My thoughts from the thumbnail is that comedy movies became so filled in by frat culture that they have lost what made comedy, comedy. It became about how many expletives you could cram into a few sentences, crotch kicks, and "OMG Hot Chick!"
It's dead in other countries too and we don't even have "frat" movies. It's social politics destroying everything.
I think that is something you and I would disagree with Jimmy on. I actually consider the 2000s as a low point in comedy because of the over saturation of frat boy/pot head movies. I'm not sure if it killed comedy, but it reminds me how the end of civilizations are usually preceded by an era of decadence.
The growth is the growth of a new era, not the death of an old one.
I thought capitalists loved growth? Apparently except when it comes to ethical gain, then it's too much.
But frat comedies were funny as a general rule. American Pie, Road Trip, Old School, Van Wilder, Superbad etc are all classics and not really what the video is about.
Same way with sitcoms on television-- The Bob Newhart Show on CBS (w/the now departed star in the title, who was Chicago psychologist Dr. Bob Hartley) and Barney Miller on ABC (w/Hal Linden as the titular police captain in the fictional 12th Precinct of the Big Apple) were two 70s greats that I have esteemed well worth the money on DVD, because they were entertaining enough not to need the frat culture and the "hot chicks" like you mentioned (far as I recall).
I think the secret formula behind Will Ferrell’s success was Adam McKay, and when their friendship fizzled, so did Will’s comedy…
Will simply got old. He's 56 now. He can't do all the slapstick or goofy jokes. They come across better when young or middle age but are more sad when old. Unless, it is about a 40-year-old son still living at home with mom.
Is 61 year old Jim Carrey still talking out of his butt?
Did they drag back 90 year old Chevy Chase for the latest Fletch film?
@@joelwillems4081 yeah, I agree that his style worked better when he was a younger guy. I actually think he’s funniest when he goes on talk shows and improvs with the host, whether it’s Fallon or Conan
Let’s face it, Adam Mackay also had benefited from Will Ferrell reigning him in a bit as well. “Willikers! What if terrible people… were TERRIBLE, but it’s a MOVIE?” Is Adam Mackay’s entire filmography post Will Ferrell.
@@joelwillems4081 Why has anyone ever found and Chevy Chase film funny, is beyond me. They're all either simply not funny or just straight up embarrassing.
@@joelwillems4081bollocks. Leslie Nielsen and much of his appeal was BECAUSE he was an old man leading in the most RIDDICULOUS comedies ever that still hold on like 40 years later.
Man the, 2000s comedy movies were peak.
Nah. 80s is superior. Amazon women on the moon and Kentucky fried movie and all the Leslie Nelson stuff along with Mel Brooks.
@@TheMysteryDriverAbsolutely! 80's classics set the standard!!
There are good comedy movies going back to the 1930s. It happened last night and The Whole Town's talking for instance are 2 very enjoyable movies even today. However, many of these early comedy movies are dated and stilted. There are some great highlights throughout the decades, like 1954s The Court Jester that rank among the best comedies ever. Or The Life of Brian and Smokey and the Bandit in the 1970s. What's the Golden Age of Comedy? Probably the 80s that gave us a ton of super entertaining movies like Plains, Trains and Automobiles as well as cheesfests like Red Sonja that were hilarious for all the wrong reasons.
Borat, superbad, hangover god damnit were they funny
This comment is funny, because in England "peak" is often used to describe something as "very bad" lol
The weirdest thing to me is Will Ferrell making some of the funniest movies ever, then all of a sudden every movie hes starred in sucks. Step Brothers is still one of my all time favorites.
Same. Talladega Nights was awesome… not much after that
Barbie and the Lego Movie were amazing though
@@jaydenplive1234 Barbie??? Haha ok
@@ionbusman2086 Barbie fucking slapped. Did you even watch it?
I feel this with a lot of the older comedy actors these days. I can't tell if it's just because we became so used to their gags it lost its appeal, or if they've suddenly got worse.
Especially the ones that decided to try and do more serious roles, when they came back to comedy they didn't have that same charm anymore.
I watched The Nice Guys a few months back and i was surprised at How much laugh out loud moments there Were. I think it really comes down to What the creators of south park say. You have to have a good story and it should consist of ”this happens, therefore this happens, but then this happens”.
Definitely an underrated gem.
As a gay man myself. You have to laugh at yourself. And you can't be offended when you're watching a comedy or in a comedy club. No one is safe and that's what's good about it. The 2000s comedies were peak comedy. The movie "idiocracy" is one if my favorites. And is slowly becoming a documentary. Bridesmaids is funny too. 😂
I prefer the 80s. Try easy money with Rodney
Can't be offended? It's a professional international sport now. Cry bullies out squealing each other for the most amount of smugness points.
@@cincin4515 We should laugh at the cry bullies. The more they cry the more we should mock them and take away their power.
@@unvaxxeddoomerlife6788 LOL, I'm guessing you watch MSNBC.
(sigh) I hate it when someone says that movies like They Live and Idiocracy are slowly becoming a documentary of real life! Social commentary of real life does not equal documentary!
I find the "foreign market" part to be really infuriating. I'm from El Salvador and all those movies you mentioned were massive here and in Latin America in general. Language barriers were not a great issue, ESL audiences still watched and supported the films.
Now, even though more people in these countries speak English, they understand English, they talk English more than ever before - they want to make no effort to consume media in English. It sucks because most of the films nowadays are dubbed, and if a movie doesn't have the budget to be dubbed, it just doesn't hit the theaters and I suspect it's the same in most of LATAM.
If the silver lining of that was that people would consume more national, regional media, then I wouldn't care as much. But the result is that people only watch the same 4-6 Marvel or animated movies all year long. The fucking Minions movie last year was in theaters for 5 months!
El salvador is still really really different from China and Asia though, which is where most of movie profits come from nowadays
@@mrpyro4217 Yeah I can't speak for Asia, but I do think it represents the general LATAM public which is still hundreds of millions.
Did you watch Napoleon Dynamite?
@@MushookieMan I watched Napoleon in middle school, it gained popularity years later because of the cartoon that would air on FX.
And there is another factor, movies now no longer last months in theaters, except for that exception that you mentioned, many recover their investment quickly, and if they don't work they withdraw them, since in a few months or a month they will already be streaming, digital market or pirated.
I also say that the dubbing of Mexico greatly helped the proliferation of many Hollywood comedy films and series (as well as other genres), even making it funnier to latin american audiences, inserting jokes/idioms that worked abroad, some films were trashy but dubbing really helped them, sometimes making it more decent.
I guess if people who donsen't speak english watches some of these shows and films in it's original audio/languague, they wouldn't find it funny, just like it happened when my Mom when watched The Big Bang Theory on english for the first time, Luis Alfonso Mendoza (R. I. P.) did a great job dubbing Sheldon Cooper, even the actress who voiced Bernadette, not everyone can reach those high-pitched tones, even Melissa Rauch would be grateful to hear her voice in spanish since it is the closest to the original.
Of course, due to several reasons, some voice actors could replace others in their characters, which bothers audiences, those 2 characters that I mentioned remained with their respective voice actors from beginning to end.
My favourite comedy of all time is "Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story". The perfect parody which Queen then remade as "Bohemian Rhapsody"... High Praise indeed.
I watch that movie at once every two weeks. It's excellent
“You can take the children…but you leave me my monkey”
Team America, tropic thunder, dogma, little nicky, four lions, jay and silent bob, the Cornetto trilogy, idiocracy the list could go on 😢
America, fuck yeah!! 😂😂😂
Dude wheres my car is best movie all time
@@TJJ117 "the greatest mathafuckin nation in the worrllddd !! FUCK yeaahhhhh"
Zoolander
I don't get the Kevin Smith Hype. But I love the other movies you mentioned.
I feel like a lot of the problem is it isn’t profitable anymore
I hate to be that guy who points this out, but the rise and fall of Internet humor was also a defining factor. Not only because anyone with a camera could be touted as a comedy star, but also because, in the long run, people began associating comedy with cringey jokes to the point these became synonymous. That's why dramedies took hold in the 2010s as a more sophisticated alternative while most superhero and animated films have filled the void left to some point.
Blazing Saddles and Tropic Thunder. Two of the most politically incorrect and hilarious movies ever.
Hardly the most politically incorrect movies ever
Some examples of more politically incorrect films? Neither movie could be made today, and both were hilarious@@javi__...
Oh it's twuu its twoo😅😅
Bad News Bears probably the most politically incorrect movie I can think of.
Love tropic thunder. Get him to the greek is good too
I think you hit the nail on the head with 22 Jump st being last truly iconic comedy film
What about dirty grandpa
Super interesting topic. It is really sad how few funny films are being made today.
I'm truly blessed to have lived my youth through the 90s and 00s. I grew up with classic and hilarious comedies and even some funny and scary horror movies like scream 1 and 2. Matthew Lillard gave a once in a lifetime performance with stu macher. He was terrifying and hilarious simultaneously which is extremely difficult and I've never seen someone pull off such a dual performance where each part elevated the other so much. 90s and 00s truly was the golden age of movies in my opinion also with music
I’m technically Early Gen Z (b. 1998) but I agree with you, I pretty much grew up with alot of the same movies & music that later Millennials did. I’m glad I’m not part of the current generation who is growing up during this overly-political age of movies and a pandemic
My favorite's are Airplane, Top Secret, The Naked Gun Trilogy, Hot Shots, Scary Movie 1 through 4, Not Another Teen Movie and Mel Brooks Spoofs. With TV I loved The Benny Hill Show, Married....with Children, In Living Color, MadTV, Night Court (The original).
Only time Sandler ever made me cry was when his movie was my only option that night.
Comedy films died because of godawful writing. The reliance on "random" humour and bad improv just wasn't sustainable and it collapsed. It's sad that many comedy writers these days apparently don't know how to craft a joke.
So you're explanation is "everyone stopped being funny at the same time"
@@Rarefied-Air It really is disgusting how dishonest people are. Leftist propaganda ruined entertainment. It's not a secret that propaganda has _never_ made for quality entertainment.
But nope! No, sirree! No leftist propaganda here! No Marxism/anti-capitalism, no environmentalism, no "feminism", no racialism, no homosexualism suddenly mandated in every major movie and video game (and novel).
_It's just bad writing!_ That's all!
I agree. If you look at movies like 'Dumb and Dumber' the characters may be stupid but the writing is brilliant. Even to this day I pick up on little details or gags I have not noticed before. Zoolander is another movie that appears dumb but has really good writing.
@@Rarefied-Air At the same time? No. Over a period of about 10-15 years, until there were none left.
It's more like an entire generation grew up not knowing how to write inherently funny bits. We can probably blame the internet/meme culture for that. The meme is funny because it's a meme. Not because there's anything inherently funny about it. If you don't know the meme, you don't laugh; it only becomes funny because of the repitition and familiarity. So it only appeals to a small subset of people who do know the meme. It's the lowest form of comedy and it doesn't work on screen.
I recently watched a few comedy movies from the 1930s and I was amazed at how funny they actually were, one was the original "Mr Deeds" with Gary Cooper instead of Adam Sandler and I would even say it was better, then "Arsenic and old lace" with Cary Grant and "Bringing up baby" with Katherine Hepburn, If you have any general interest in the past I highly recommend it, just seeing the cars, the clothes, the acting and way they talk is interesting (and most importantly the movies are funny) and in case your wondering I'm 33yo (not 90 lol) but I assure if you can appreciate something from before your own time you'll probably like them
Those are all greats!
Arsenic & Old Lace was a work of genius, and how dark was it? If you want to check some others out, try We're No Angels with Bogart & Harvey with Jimmy Stewart. Both are brilliant
I'm a big fan of the original _Miracle on 34th Street,_ so I'd give these old movies a try. Where are you finding them? Somewhere convenient, I hope.
Its a bit newer than those but you'd love fatso
If you want to go even further back, Buster Keaton has some pretty good comedies. I love "Steamboat Bill Jr." And another good Cary Grant movie is "Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House."
They did a reaction video with Gen Z, it had several movies just like these and they didn't find any of these films funny whatsoever. In fact some called them ageist, misogynist, racist, sexist, bigot, fat phobic and other terms. It's safe to say the new generation will not like this style of humor, sadly. But somehow superhero movies are what they crave.
i’m gen z (born in 2000) most of these movies were literally part of my childhood along with a lot of us it’s like everyone forgets that😂
@@gxldboyj6523exactly I’m guessing it’s everybody born after 2005 who are still teens
Life's going to be fun in the future. These boring depressing losers are going to be in charge one day.
Im a Gen Z and grew up with a lot these movies and their miles better than the whatever they call comedy today and that's coming from a guy with a dry sense of humor😂
Not saying all of Gen-Z but many of them are the most miserable young generation to ever exist.
The fact you had to censor Tropic Thunder and Borat in *this very video* speaks volumes.
Underrated but most telling comment
You hit the nail on the head about modern examples: they are always making a really obvious point.
They talk about punching up and down, but they just constantly strawman and treat that as comedy.
Thank you for giving “The Death of Stalin” some love. Funniest movie I’ve seen in years. “In the Loop” would be a good addition to your 00’s/early-10’s list.
TDOS was the first movie I thought of when he said no good news then I checked and it was 2017 but that is one of the funniest I have seen and its basically all true!
Great analysis , thank u for not taking the easy out and just blaming cancel culture, i actually think while a contributing factor, its the other issues you spoke on that are the real culprits
The 90s and 00’s were definitely peak comedy. So many classics worth re-watching.
"Jokes that might land in America, might not be funny in other countries."
There's a finite amount of times you can watch a guy eat literal shit before you find it disgusting and not the least bit funny.
Not in the English-speaking parts of the world, though. As soon as you say "shit" or "fart," someone will start laughing hysterically. I will never understand that.
There are other key factors of why comedies aren't on the big screens any longer:
•Studios tend to release more comedies onto streaming apps/platforms with the idea that people would watch comedies at home than in the theaters.
•Weather seasons:
fall/winter = romance & Oscar nominee dramas run the theaters
spring/summer = action-packed blockbusters run the theaters
•A lot of newer comedians aren't that funny or even known to even carry a movie
•The world has been so niche where we're all aren't watching the same thing
•Comedies keep repeating the same ideas & tropes where they don't seem enjoyable.
Name a comedy from 2020 or newer that was laugh out loud funny
Yeah Tbh those podcasters are boring and most people really don't like straight stand up comedy. I think it's been really reduced to a level below bargain bin for movie studios and streaming.
@@Law2120 bros, doner party, Miguel wants to fight, theater camp. Not great. Honeslty Atlanta season 3 and 4 was funny. Shoresy.
Or mixing genres. Where they just add comedy to... anything. Heroes films gotten too out of hand with that to its detriment at times for example.
Wokeness killed it. Full stop.
I hope comedy returns soon! We need it.
I think we should also consider the amazing comedy’s made in the 70’s The Jerk, blazing saddles, caddie shack, animal house. So funny 🤣 that was another golden era of comedy. Those movies would be so offensive to a lot of people now.
The wat John Belushi drunkenly snorts out "Why not" when the rush asks why his name is Pinto is still one of the best moments of comedy lol
I can’t imagine the response showing Blazing Saddle’s (actually most Mel Brooks movies) would get from people now. There would cataclysmic outrage.
🤣 people couldn’t handle it!
The Jerk is the greatest comedy film ever made.
The last bastions of uncensored comedy is South Park. Trey Parker and Matt Stone are cultural heroes
@DookiePuke69 Yes, it is. They just do movies now, but they're still hilarious.
Before the social media era, people had to go to comedy shows or watch movies to consume comedy. Today, people consume funny stuff everyday without even searching on various platforms. Everyday someone posts something funny on the group chat for example. This has diluted the novelty of going to see comedy movies hence why the genre is not as successful as it was. Also a lot of funny people today exist in the form of content creators not actors
Not my first time watching this vid, and it's almost a year old now, but your comment is pin-worthy. It nails why comedy films suck now-too much competition from user-generated content.
What an amazingly done video! the depth of the research done on the content is awesome. Keep up the good work
Can’t believe the Farrelly Brothers didn’t get a mention! Honestly Me Myself and Irene is such an underrated movie. Something About Mary never loses its shine.
I listened to me me myself and irene yesterday hahaha .
Oh yeah! Me myself and irene - good one. Yeah wild how good comedies used to be. I rarely
Watch movies multiple times but classics like that could
When a comedy movie costing tens of millions to make is less funny than a TH-cam video of an idiot walking around Walmart making fart noises and recording the reactions, you know it’s time to throw in the towel.
I think this is pretty accurate, free content supplanted alot of the entertainment industry
Great video! I only have one comment... Deadpool as a movie is just like Deadpool in the comics as he has been since 1991. One of Deadpools comic book superpowers is being aware he's in a comic book and breaking the 4th wall. I completely agree with the other super hero films like Guardians of the Galaxy just trying to edge in on comedy even though they were never originally that way.
Exactly Deadpool is super meta. One of my favourite comics with him is where he kills the entire Marvel universe, finishing with his own writers, so he can die too.
As a avid comic book reader and scroller of comic books I’m general this is all true.
I remember someone saying that comedy (at least certain comedy) is rooted in absurdity, and that the reason we don’t find comedy as much is because of how absurd things have gotten. I blame cancel culture for this, but also how divided and remarkably stubborn people and governments have become.
You hit the nail on the head
You can't just begin the video by mentioning how comedy often serves as a "vessel for political messages" and then proceed to criticize modern comedy movies for "being political"
It isn't cancel culture or "people being darn liberal snowflakes!", it's just that other movies have taken their place. Once upon a time (in Hollywood?), goofy white comedy movies were the shit. This doesn't mean people have lost their sense of humor or that they've gotten "easily offended", it just means the trend is over. In a sense, the goofy, simple but culturally significant comedy from those movies has been transferred to modern big-budget movies. Take a look at GOTG for example. Big-budget movies like Oppenheimer, Ant-Man or The Little Mermaid were box-office winners 2005 as well, but those movies did not have the same kind of dialogue as modern big-budget movies. Barbie and Super Mario are comedies but also big-budget movies. See where I'm getting at?
'Mike and Dave need Wedding Dates' from 2016 was the most recent really funny comedy I've seen.
Happily, there are dozens (if not hundreds) of comedy movies we havent seen yet that we can still watch for the first time, as well as re-watching our old favorites.
That's true I enjoy even bad comedies
I thought of the famous “I work with r-words” from There’s Something About Mary lol. I didn’t realize it until watching it recently but they say it in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory too. A kid’s movie lol. The 2000’s were truly a different time.
Same for the original version of Go Go Moba Boy.
There was a period in life where it was the only films I watched.
Comedy films arent dead. You have MCU films where every character is a stand up comedian
The Judd Apatow era from the 200s was a reaction to a death of R rated comedies of the 90s. Most ereas of movies are reactions to previous periods and I think we'll get back to that again. Probably not as in your face as the Xtreme Attitude era of the early 2000s, but another new normal. I thought Bros was great, but its really more of a romantic comedy than just a straight comedy movie. The Nice Guys was in 2016, but that movie is a modern classic, more people need to watch that.
So you're saying comedy movies will return to the top when they become the reaction to the absurd emotion-based decision making of this era? Oooh weee, that's gonna be hilariously defensive to the hateful bullies of the alphabet mafia.
@@rmaxtpmx- Don’t pay any attention to him. When he said Bros was a great movie I couldn’t take him seriously anymore.
There also seems to be gaps between generations retiring, and the new generation stepping up or being given similar resources. Can’t even remember last time Apatow made a movie.
this video title alone both made me crack up and feel intense anxiety since reality has gotten too absurd to parodize 😢😂
The funny thing about this video is I always felt that Will Ferril was the death of comedy films.
How so?
@@jskrabac I can't answer for electrofyingct, but I know my wife hates Will. She thinks he's not even slightly funny, and would probably have said exactly the same thing. She'd say unfunny comedies starring Will Ferrell killed comedies.
@@glenmiller1437agreed
yea I think if you watch his movies as a teen or early 20s they are kind of funny but you can tell the quality just isn't that great. In my 30's, even these so called classics like anchorman are just too painful to watch. All of the humour is too similar and using all of the same characters/type of jokes gets very old quick.
@@josieclarke460 I just took a plane flight, and on the entertainment system was Anchorman. I had never see it before, and after commenting here, I thought I'd give it a try. I stopped before I got through the opening credits. It was Will saying odd/obnoxious things to people off camera. I didn't laugh at all. Ya, just painful. I felt if that was a sign of things to come, I might as well find a different movie, so I did.
As a 100% native bilingual, The english language not translating well is 100% true. Even some simple jokes in lets say a marvel film, i read the translation in Korean and its SO OFF. I was the only guy laughing at the theater for some of those jokes.
My favorite comedy is Blazing Saddles. Look at the main plot: A man gets put into a situation where his main purpose is to fail, but he turns it around and saves himself and a town that hated him. Along the way, breaking stereotypes... sometimes.
Remember when you were a kid and you wondered why adults always talked about how everything was better "back in the day"? Well, it looks like that kid grew up.
Right lmfao gen z will do the same and be like damn lmfao
Everyone does it. Actual maturity is realising the moments when we do it and accept that we grew too old.
There's a great episode in the new season of it's always sunny that takes place in a Dave& busters type arcade.
The 40 year old moaning that the arcade has changed and became too pc since they were there, and then frank moaning that it's changed since his day because there's no more racist jokes ..to which the 40 year olds push back on him for being too old etc.
Quality is subjective of course, but there’s actual data showing that there’s way fewer successful comedies being released these days
This is a bit different. I was born in 1966, so logically by the late 90s early 2000s I would say that the movies before were better. I actually didn't think stuff started going downhill until after 2015. In fact my favorite time period to live would be around 2000 to 2010, well after my youth. And many young people also see things as going way down after 2015. There are objective reasons for this.
@@chamboyette853 twas the death of dvd sales. Companies won't make their second revenue from dvd sales so have to play it safe
There are just so many ways where it is unnecessary to the point of becoming exceedingly difficult to have shared experiences with people you don't have to know if it doesn't serve a specific function. The increased use of the available technology (the internet, streaming, AI, etc.) has allowed us not to have to interact with each other. People text instead of call. People use memes to know what often takes novels to understand. People stay at home instead of going out for eating, entertainment, work, etc. The lack of shared experiences leads to lack of communication and varying but unchallenged perspectives. Comedy derives from some sense of a twist to an accepted reality. But if realty relies on a shared perspective, and less and less perspective is shared, then comedy is harder to appreciate. It is not so much electronics as much as it is the misuse of those products leading to isolation despite the fingertip capacity to connect to a wider world.
Good post
That's good food for thought. I think you're probably right that that's an element here.
I love how he keeps reminding us about his joke at the beginning of the video😂
It will go down in the history books
Yes but it will be meta. You discovered comedy in 2023 when making a joke about Comedy being discovered in 1853.
I think it goes even deeper than "we can't be offensive anymore". Comedy is the canary in the coal mine for the current level of sophistication and intelligence of writers. Other genres can distract the audience with loud sounds and lush visual spectacle, but comedy is all in the writing... so good comedies can't exist without really good scripts (for me, the peak will always be Neil Simon's plays turned into movies, with masterpieces like Barefoot in the Park, the Odd Couple and the Sunshine Boys). Maybe there are still some good screenwriters in the world, but they can't work in Hollywood, where meritocracy was replaced with politics and diversity hires; and the way young people live today, without many hardships and real experiences, completely isolated in their bubble, stunts their growth as storytellers.
In terms of financial returns, I think that since a lot of people are in rough financial times people who even go to the movies at all are much more selective about what they go see. For me that’s always been the case, where I need to assess if a movie is worth seeing on the big screen. Action, thriller, and certain horror movies are almost always worth more to see on the big screen when compared to comedies. Think of your top 10 favorite comedies, and then think of if they’d be experienced any differently being viewed on the 55’ big screen for $21 per ticket compared to being watched at home on your 55” tv. Comedies are viewed for the words, not the spectacle.
Movie theatres are filled with young people who just want to be bamboozled by the next superhero CGI movie.
They don't even have a sense of humour.
I do think that comedies are starting to make a comeback. Just within the last several months we've had a variety of comedies such as Rye Lane, Polite Society, No Hard Feelings, Strays, Joy Ride, and Bottoms. However, some of them have just not done well at the box office. So while I do think that comedy needs to be a little less restrained on the jokes that are made, there are comedies still coming out that need support. Bottoms alone has the potential to be a classic if it just gets more attention.
I think the fact that I only know one of those, vaguely aware of one of those, they both look terrible, and haven't even heard of the others, is kinda telling that they aren't coming back. They may have been made, but they did abysmal
Bottoms was definitely a failure. It was like a high school student wrote the script. They needed to consult a comedian about how to set up a joke. They tried to replicate other successful comedies but then didn't understand how to set it up so it was funny, instead of a parody. No Hard Feelings was fine but they didn't cross the line. Jennifer Lawrence knows how to carry a scene but the lines/action didn't meet her defiant attitude (she didn't cross the line to make us laugh out loud). Which is what you pointed out about less restrained!
@nosoyallowed828 *"Woke comedy isn’t funny."*
That's because propaganda isn't funny. Never has been, never will be.
Coming from a dog person I loved Strays.
It was raunchy, vulgar and dirty, but so hilarious.
My audience laughed through the whole thing
As somebody who loves Action and martial arts movies polite society was a letdown the trailers made it look like a comedy that was a love letter to action and martial Arts fans. They made it look like scott pilgrim, kung fu hustle and kill bill(more funny) but then its nothing more than a soap opera mixed with jordan peele's get out. On paper the movie sounded cool but was poorly executed. It takes place in the uk could they not have hired Scott Adkins or Ray Park for choreography?
No Hard Feels is overated i m sorry it just felt like a bad attemptAmerican Pie, Van Wilder and 40 year old virgin in one. Girl next door is still the best in that genre. Its woke as hell jlaw male friend with the preg wife s insulted for being a man. Ironically jlaw is cancelled for being a biggot at a frat party but not taken advantage of a teen? Lol.
Bill Burr new movie sucked too i hes the bad guy when most of the issues his character faces aren't his fault.
Sandler is losing too with the new movie with hus daughter
Recently watched "The Lost City" and I went down this same rabbit hole. Being a kid growing up in the 90s and 2000s was some good times: Dumb and Dumber, Nacho Libre, Napoleon Dynamite.
“The 2000s were great…everybody was so happy.”
*shows Ed, Edd’n, Eddy*
I see you too are a man of culture
I rewatch 90s and 2000s comedies regularly just to remind myself how good movies should look like. My favorite genre is action comedy, mastered by Jackie Chan, and Taxi (a Luc Besson film). We just don't have it anymore...
Guys I think it’s time we give Jimmy his props. He made the funniest joke of all time at the start of this video and didn’t even brag or mention it like he could have. What a stand up guy
I do feel people back in the 2000s were less likely to get offended by its jokes, nowadays its moslty about being excepting of others ways and soon as you mock them it creates the backlash.
makes sence why little britain was stopped and taken off the tv channels cause it offended people in the recent generations.
End of the day, trends change same as humor and it cant always be there ever lasting sadly.
I sure hope comedy makes a comeback in films. For real, my friends and I make jokes all the time some of which are messed up but c’mon we laugh at each other.
Theyve been keeping us in fear and loathing ever since.
Exactly mate, Don't want us Happy, Smiling and Laughing!:)
Too good of a frequency for the masses!
ticket prices have gotten horribly expensive and no one will pay $20+ to see a simple comedy. It needs to be worth the $$$.
The fact that we’re seeing this occur also means people are hungry for a good comedy. It’s the perfect time for someone new to step it up and deliver something original, which ideally would be about all the things we’re not supposed to joke about anymore.
For 90s comedy; there were three: Jim Carry, Adam Sandler AND the best of three: Robin Williams.
And dont you ever forget that
Sandler was more 00’s. Eddie Murphy was more 90’s
Mike Myers gotta be part of the 2000s discussion
I never got Robin Williams comedies. I always thought it such a shame that such an amazing actor wasted so much time trying to be funny when he could have made more serious films instead.
@JamalW239 Adam Sandler was 90s then 2000s. Happy Gilmore up to Little Nicky where all in the 90s. Everyone thought after big daddy he fell of.
Eddie Murphy is 80s AF. He had 2 big hits in the 90s; Dr Doolittle and the nutty professor, which both are pretty bad compared to, trading places, Beverly hills cop, and coming to America. It is stated many times the Eddie Murphy was THEE comic of the 80s...Total goat.
@MatthewCraigMusic yes, I agree, Mike Myers work in the 2000s it top tier.
If you can't stand being offended, then don't hope for any actual comedy shows happening.
Comedy is all about being able to laugh at ourselves and not take things too seriously. It's little wonder why that is lost on so many these days.
Bro, Deadpool has been talking to the 4th wall since he started in the comics. It wouldn't be a Deadpool film with him not being self aware!! Same with She Hulk, she broke the 4th wall before Deadpool did it.
True to the comic books or not, She Hulk was absolute fucking dogshit.
Bill Burrs “old dads” was the first in a long time I had that 2007/8 comedy feeling
I hated how burr is the bad guy with a bi-- wife when most of his anger is understandable
Andy Sambergs film Popstar would have absolutely decimated the scene in the 90s or early 00s, but it released in 2016 and bombed (according to wiki: grossing just over $9 million against a budget of $20 million). It is a genuinely good comedy film, it feels like it's from the era being discussed here but with contemorary references and reflections on the modern music industry (now dated lol).
The story of the new Workaholics movie getting cancelled is the most upsetting comedy-related tragedy in recent years.
They were gonna make a movie???
@@get8bit Ya, they were in pre production and ready to film 😭
@@Ler-ky1tz I just watched Derz telling Steve-O all about this. What a shame! I guess the studio wasn't sure if they could make money on it, so just wrote it off on their taxes as a loss instead of finishing filming. At least we still have Game Over, Man!
@@get8bit TroofZ!!
Man the 2000's was my middle school, high school, and early college years. All those comedies from 2003 to 2007 when I was in high school were a huge part of my high school career. Our quoting of these movies was a big part of our lunch breaks, gym classes, regular classes, and even in our extra curricular activities like the football, wrestling, and basketball teams.
memes before the digital age. So much better. Even internet memes were funny when they were relatively unknown and less accessible to make or even view. When FB memes happened, it all died a cringeworthy death.
I remember back in the day it was perfectly normal to quote Dave Chappelle in any and all conversations nomatter the context.
In the 2000s you had to sense of humor. It's because of what we lived through, you HAD to laugh. That's why we had so many great comedies from our era. I refuse to change or become lame and boring like everyone else our age now.
I don't think you're special. Plenty of people your age want to laugh, but a lot of young people are turning to the internet for a good laugh, because Hollywood is lacking the carefree humor it once had when we were children. I laugh a lot more when watching content from gen z TH-camrs than I do when watching some safe "comedy" that some middle aged rich guy who is stuck in their bubble has made these days. It's really the older generations who are to blame for catering to the ultra serious and anti-comedy culture that most young people don't actually care about, that they themselves started and promoted but are blaming on us for.
I agree with this actually. The 2000s were a strange mix of the death of the optimism of the 90s, the collective trauma of 9/11 and the War on Terror and the rise of the early internet with its offensive, off-beat and random humor. You really cant recreate those social conditions again.
I swear since 2010 the human species went back mentally 200 years and its only 2024, imagine whats to come.
I wish we could do a team america movie again. Nearly 20 years later and its still hysterical. Best puppet sex scene of all time.
Best throw up scene too
Will Ferrel is a damn genius. His movies are classic.
Not his latest ones. The one with Kevin hart where he went to prison was pretty lame
@@SAsh-zg6ln Get Hard had a few decent laughs. It wasn't iconic though. There's no one repeating bits from it or dressing up like the characters for Halloween.
@@get8bit true. Forgot it was called get hard lol
Nah. Elf and Anchorman are the only good films he's done.
A lot of people are mentioning DVD sales and that’s a good point. If we consider streaming, I think comedy TV shows may have picked up where films left off. We’ve had tons of iconic comedy shows - The Office, Parks and Recreation, Arrested Development, Community, The Good Place, Veep. Too many to list. Comedy doesn’t seem to have died, it just went to streaming, and podcasts/stand up, like you mentioned. It just moved location. Think of the cultural impact of shows like The Office and Arrested Development.
2003-2019 arrested development last few seasons were bad
2005-2013 the office
Cant speak to many of the others, but most recent ones are still no where near as iconic
@@JimmyTheGiant Righteous gemstones is epic.
Parks and Recreation 2009-2015
Community 2009-2015
The first run of Arrested Development accounts for 99% of it's cultural impact, and that was 2003-2006.
You ever imagine in 20 years or summit their will be another content creator slapping a “the rise and fall of TH-cam” mad
@JimmyTheGiant You cannot fathom how incredibly much I appreciate you featuring The Death of Stalin as background footage of great modern comedies.
Blaming “cancel culture” is too weak of a reason. Especially when a lot of it comes down to studios cutting costs and trying to make a much money as possible. They only widely market whatever they think will make the most money with are franchise films, ie superhero films and remakes/sequels to previously popular franchises. If you actually step out of that bubble that the big companies have you in then you’d find there are still great comedy films out there. But nobody’s gonna do that because every thing not super mainstream is too “woke” for them.
Well he did mention some other factors too. Bit cancel culture is absolutely part of the equation. It's not just comedy movies going down the tubes, but comedians have had shows cancelled numerous times for being politically incorrect, they've self-flagellated publicly for making jokes, tried to take funny shows/movies back cos they now are offensive, and so on. It's not weak, it's definitely part of the situation.
They're making movies for Twitter because people think Twitter represents society today. "10% of Twitter Users Are Responsible for 92% of Tweets." At least Deadpool was comic accurate so you can't blame him there.
The death of these comedy films has coincides with the death of the Romcom as well. When you think about it most of these comedy films of the 2000's where kinda like Romcom's but for dudes. The anti Chick Flick if you will. What is the 40 Year Old Virgin, Crazy Stupid Love, or even Talladega Nights as movies if not about these guys who fail in their relationships but then succeed after they learn to grow up in some way? Or realize their true love was with their best friend the whole time. Either way, this means their identity as movies was closely linked to another kinds of films that also would dry up at the same time in the digital age.
All entertainment nowadays is purely made for profit and not passion, thats why the indie genre is rising and everything else is falling
The reason why English character humour usually beats American character humour out is because American humour is predominantly on the nose there’s nothing awkward or unspoken. English humour is usually very dark, sadistic or roots in black humour (not Afro American) but dark subject matter humour. Dark comedy is not crass. This is usually what American humour gets wrong about English humour.