Dan Inosanto Interview: Bruce Lee's Opinion on Kali
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2008
- Rick Tucci interviews Dan Inosanto regarding his time training with Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do in the 1960s. Dan in his own words states Bruce Lee was not impressed in Kali/Escrima for self defence application but only for movies.
JKD Concepts is not Bruce Lee's direction but Dan Inosanto's. This isn't a dig at Sifu Inosanto, if it weren't for him very few of us would have gone out in search for Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do. This video is only to clear up the confusion to what Bruce Lee's direction was and what Dan Inosanto's direction is. Bruce Lee's philosophy was to CUT AWAY and simplify, whilst Dan Inosanto choose a much more mixed martial art approach of ADDING, additions not always from a scientific perspective but rather something more to a person's taste.
What road you choose is up to you! But do not say JKDConcepts is what Bruce Lee would have done (or did) as it is clear he was walking in the opposite direction. - กีฬา
I love how Mr. Inosanto always speaks in complete sentences. He really is an over look Master
i just can say, guru dan inosanto for me personal is the best intructor worldwide, a very humble man, very friendly,fundamental knowledge about lets say at least 30 different arts,anybody can have his own opinion, but mr.inosanto is state of the art.
I am a Bruce Lee fan before he died and always will be. Guro Dan Inosanto is a great and humble man, if anyone alive should know about JKD Dan is the man.
+Franklin Nanai Wow, what was the common perception of bruce lee when he was alive? Was his reputation the same or did it change?
I studied Kali & ESKRIMA in Guro Danny's Back Yard Gym in Carson in 1974- after Bruce'S death - At that time I actually had no concept exactly of who Danny really was - he never did any bragging about his role with Bruce- so it was only some 15 to 20 years after 1974 that I saw Danny in a Steven Segal Film and things have fallen into place- in retrospect- Wish I would have learned more & stuck with those Kali classes
He just seems like such a nice guy... power and passion.. the root of masculinity.
He is that way.
I may be biased as an eskrima practitioner, but from the context of what he said, I believe Bruce Lee was not commenting on the effectiveness of eskrima/kali as a whole, but rather identifying techniques in eskrima/kali, as he learned them, that were good for movies but not good for combat, as opposed to eskrima techniques which were effective in combat.
And, to add, Dan Inosanto himself says that at that time he was not as yet at a high level as an eskrima/kali practitioner. Peace. :)
Oh I know he is, but it seems like people with less knowledge seem to get more attention. I think Mr. Inosanto is a walking encylcopedia of martial arts knowledge, but is overlooked by much mainstream martial arts community. It's always "You trained with Bruce Lee didn't you, what was that like?" not very often is it " you hold certifications in 18 different arts don't you, what is that like" I just feel like he does not get the credit he desrves sometimes because he is alway in Mr. Lee's shadow
SirGalaEd That's a really valid perspective. Bruce Lee paved the way for an amazing training style, and Dan Inosanto just built off of that and, dare I say, perfected it.
@@doomsday8739 You may be correct! Very good comments here!
I know... it's crazy. I just found out he has a black belt in BJJ under the Machado brothers, with 750+ private lessons with them.
He knows so much that very few even know how much.
Yes !!! He taught us that BJJ. He was also a black belt in Muay Thai from Ajarn Chia whom he hosted for a long time to get him started as the first Muay Thai instructor in the United States. Look at the old videos of Ajarn Chia teaching with all the weapons on the wall that is Guro Dan's old studio from back in the day. I know because I was there and also sent fighters to Sirisute to learn leg kicks when WKA started allowing leg kicking back in the 80s.
Dan is also a long time black sash in Wing Chun full program from Sifu Francis Fong.
Dan took up Capoeira when he was 82 years old, that is unbelievable.
Still doing his thing to this day.
Nobody deserves respect more and he is too humble.
I trained under ,and with many of Guru Dan Inosanto’s students. Meeting Guru was a good experience at a seminar in Pa. Prinston Academy was the best JKD school in pa and New Jersey at its beginnings in 1987. Training under Guru Rick Tucci, and Jeff Jones was a fun time. For that short time period I saw the beauty and learned the essence of many arts!
So humble but powerful
thanks for uploading!
keep training hard larsson
He is a great man no doubt.
GREAT, POINTED QUESTIONS!
I took lessons from Rick Tucci at the Aquatic Club in Philly in the early 80's... wing chun, gung fu, jeet kun do, chinese boxing. that was when I was about 8 or 9 years old... i never expected to see him interviewing inosanto on yt...
Bruce Lee never was certified in anything: yes that's true. He never held any rank whatsoever, yes that's also true. Yet he showed in 1958 at an amateur boxing tournament and won the tournament with no previous boxing knowledge. He sparred with the best of his time and got praised by every one of them (Lebell, Norris, Parker) and he was simply eye-candy to watch...why is that? Because he was smarter, faster and better....period...when you're intelligent and naturally gifted, sky's the limit
thats right , it defends upon the person,
Belts and diplomas are overrated and says nothing about the knowledge, it shows only that you have imitate a bunch of motions and another guy gave you a diploma and allows you to wear a colorful new belt. In ancient Arnis and balintawak there were no diplomas, exams or belts and the "grandmasters" and students of that time would beat the shit out of the todays Blackbelts who learned hundreds of useless techniques but dont know about the real meaning of Martial Arts.
Effort beats natural talent
Its useful to note that it was a High School boxing tournament and there were 3 kids in Bruce weight class and Bruce got a by so he only fought once one match over another High School kid.
guys.... i hate reading immature comments... but thanks to the informative one.
So its important when researching other arts, to look at the science and the principles outlined. Its not something I can do, but from what I've learnt in JKD you can really tell the difference most times. Bruce Lee was very much a scientist. A very smart guy!
I believe in Bruce Lee's original methods, I understand why he used wing chun, fencing and boxing to develop JKD. Research is one thing, being able to cut away your tools is another its easy to fall in love with an art and forget the whole purpose of JKD. Thats why I believe Concepts and Original see it so differently. Bruce Lee as Dan says did warn him about the motives to research other arts, I dont have part 2 so im not sure how that question ended.
I did, however, train at Dan's school in Culver City and Marina Del Rey. I also trained at Richard Bistillo's in Torrance, and loved it.
Dan is soooooooooo knowledgable
I agree with you there. It makes one wonder though. What if Guro Inosanto and Bruce Lee were able to cross train with other GMs from the different FMA styles back then like the Saavedras, the Cañetes, GM Bacon and etc?
Bruce Lee: " Dan you can prefer Filipiono martial arts, but make no mistake putting it first,
you might miss the whole universe."
I'm with that. I like the way Dan explains JKD. He seems to have a beat on it that no one else does. It seems to me that JKD is a group of principals, not a specific method. And I think I'm pretty objective considering I don't practice or teach JKD.
absolutely!
Whats interesting though is that Ted Wong was the only student that had no martial art background when he came to Bruce Lee for training, all the others did.
Kali is great for combat, otherwise Dan wouldn't teach Bruce the filipino way of nanchuk called "tabak-toyok" and many combat applications in kali such as panantukan, dumog and sikaran
As Guro Dan said back in the day; he showed him Escrima sticks and Bruce created his own system that was almost as advanced as the historical one with Sinawali, figure 8 etc. Then he used them in Enter the Dragon. Dan also introduced Bruce to the football air shield for round (Muay Thia) and Karate, and Kung fu side kicks. The difference was Bruce's side kick was so devastating he would knock Dan across the room with it. The side kick in Return of the Dragon was real and not fake CGI.
Simply listen to what Guro Dan is saying, you need to understand the essence of the art. If you know the essence of an art like Kali, the combative implications speak for themselves.
Also I love that Dan differentiates between Escrima and Kali, they are not the same, neither is Arnis. I shake my head when people use them interchangeably; nope they're different and the differences are not small if you know them.
The trapping in Escrima is very similar to Wing Chun/Jun Fan(JKD).
@@huntertruth1139
Thanks for pointing this out.
Can you please identify what those differences are?
What are the key differences between:
1. Kali
2. Arnis
3. Escrima
Thank you in advance!
Provided the confusion is cleared they will. But Dan himself says you need to learn the jun fan method in order to do the concepts approach, yet most instructors will just teach the concepts
true
Thanks for your video. You convinced me not to go to train to Inosanto institute. I will keep on doing Jun Fan JKD and adds the interesting moves I could see. I will go to Seattle and train with Kimura.
The man is always greater than the art, you can learn things far more important through people's personal experiences than copying the movements of the art. It's why I picked my sifu over others.
I will continue to take the word of Guru Inosanto--regarding Bruce Lee's philosophy, curriculum, style evolution, ranking system, etc.--over anyone else's. No matter what the their background or lineage is.
Interesting thinking, why him over e.g Ted Wong?
@@larssonk22 I would give serious consideration also to Ted Wong (if he was one of Bruce's teachers)--in the proper context of time period and subject matter being examined.
Yep!
True knowledge is self knowledge.
It's interesting that all of the 'splits' & conflicts among JKD practitioners happened as a result of those loyal to Bruce Lee's original Jun Fan Gung-Fu and those who follow Dan Inosanto's JKD Concepts, which Inosanto says is "one in the same" as Jun Fan Gung-Fu. Given that Jun Fan/JKD was always intended to be an "evolving" fighting system then there shouldn't even be a debate between authenticity and progressiveness within Bruce Lee's approach to fighting. There's nothing wrong with following Bruce Lee's original approach to fighting & training, although many would find such a task to be time consuming and expensive. "Doing what works" is a highly subjective concept that is unique to the individual. Given their size and genetic potentials, Cain Velasques and Jon Jones don't have to train the same way Bruce Lee did in order to develop effective punches, kicks, locks, & chokes. Bruce Lee knew that what worked for him could be and often was different for what worked for his students (many of whom had natural gifts that Sifu Lee himself didn't have). It goes without saying that each person has a different genetic potential than the next person. Look at Hershel Walker. He could do 1,000 plus push-ups, sit-ups, pull-ups, and dips each day, and he got extremely cut and strong without ever having to enter a weight room or heave a dumbbell. Not surprisingly, Herschel Walker was such a tough fighter in his 50s, that the younger 'experienced boxer' Dana White refused to step into the cage with him. Hershel Walker can "still" do more push-ups, sit-ups, pull-ups, and dips than the average MMA fighter in his 20s can do.
Dang it! Where's the rest of this!! grrrr
I had no use for it so I discard it, this is the way of no way. j/k
You can probably find the full interview on TH-cam somewhere.
@@larssonk22 Don't fool yourself. You're incompetent.
@@eneckchalk are you okay buddy?
Question to the person that wrote the description:
How can one cut away and simplify, unless one learns (aka 'adds') material to be sorted through first?
Like in life, we gain experience in different situations and by doing so, we learn what we like and dislike.
This is Jeet Kune Do
sounds fine on my system
I'm unsure what instructors don't teach Jun Fan but I think that's a mistake. In my own training I had to go through Jun Fan Kickboxing, Jun Fan Gung Fu, then it all comes together under BL's JKD guidelines. Although training may never end the last stage is where it's at. It's where you put everything you've learned to the test and you really see what the man was talking about.
There are some followers that seem to crystalize the art, but when you see people like Tommy Carruthers, whom are continuously improving themselves, fine tuning, cutting away I believe this is where Bruce Lee was really heading.
You do not need to learn 100 different techniques 5 different arts, this will only hinder your mind. As Bruce Lee said theres only 2 punches and 2 kicks the rest are just variations, and there are only 5 possible ways a human being can attack its all biomechanics
I agree with your views of JKD and think Guru Inosanto's teaching styles do not oppose those of Bruce Lee's JKD.
It seems to be necessary to learn 100 things, pick what is best for the individual, then refine.
I do not understand how one could refine techniques they never learned.
If learning is considered addition, and simplifying is considered subtracting, I believe both are necessary to discover one's own JKD.
You see, JKD is all the same. It's different for all. There are many types of people out there with different body types and different potential opponents.
This is why having multiple arts to learn from is so essential to JKD.
I do not see a difference in Sigung Bruce and Guru Dan's understanding of JKD. They are different people and their jkd would not be the same, as is the nature of JKD itself to be an individual's expression of all martial arts styles.
Guru Inosanto learns the arts to expand his abilities for his own art, and also, because he needs to learn first to be able to teach others. Having the knowledge to teach many arts makes helping other's find their own JKD highly efficient.
I believe there is only one JKD and it is us individuals that will see it infinitely different.
Danny Inosanto was a running back in college. He could run very fast.
he was a football player.
Never knew that
@@robd1329 There is a picture of him in his football uniform in on of Paul Vunak's books.
He ran track too. He was a physical ed teacher, that's why he is such an outstanding instructor.
Also, not widely known is that Bruce was partially blind in one eye and he's legs were different lengths.
I was taught this by a well known martial artist who was taught by Guro Dan and many other true masters.
Unbelievable.
He was also referred to as sticks in a Steven Seagal movie.
From listening too it (several times) he seems too just enjoy researching, what's wrong with that? He himself said he's just curious into it.
True but Dan clearly states that he was on his own path which Bruce Lee had warned him to make sure it was for proper reasons. Where as Ted Wong came to Bruce Lee with "an empty cup" he had not trained in any martial arts.
It's ironic, teachers agree, students don't!!!
Gary Dill the guy who I think came up with the terms would agree, Jun Fan is the base too get a foundation and concepts are your own work.
Am I the only one who understood the video? He clearly said "he told me what he liked about it and what he didn't liked about it". It doesn't mean he didn't liked Silat, he just found flaws in many places. He loved MANY principles found in Silat as destructions and interceptions.
Danny ans Bruce had Found each to the rigth Time
In my Life i Found Bruce Lee Movies for me to my Time he was for me the King of Kungfu in a forms of the Way of the Dragon
In my Past Life s maybe i meet a Teacher like hin for me he is in this Life a spiriual Teacher for me
This guy Dan Inosanto, Roland Dantes and Dante Varona are Filipino martial artist and movie actors migrated in the U.S. 5 decades ago.
You're mistaken.
Dan Inosanto was born in California. His parents came to the US in the early 1900s.
I would like to know what were the things Bruce liked and didn't like about Escrima and/or Kali. I would also research about it. I just wonder what it is.
Inosanto pretty much sums it all up. I haven't come across any extensive notes or comments about Escrima. He only really talked extensively about unarmed combat although you will find plenty of notes about fencing.
absolutely, the BLF is trying to make sort out the chaos if agree or disagree with their methods thats fine, I just wanted to point out your portrayal of Teri Tom was inaccurate.
What did (I think they passed away now, R.I.P.) they think of Dan? I think a guy named Gary Dill came up with the terms in the 80's and he says the same as Dan here does.
I don't care about terminolgy (neigther did Lee!), heck a base is needed in just about anything and Jun Fan was that... I guess, I'm not the greatist exbert.
sorry bruce but kali will be more effective in combat,especially if two or more people will attack you at the same time..if he still alive today,he will realize that jkd or even kung fu are only good for movies..
Thanks for leaving a comment mcfly .hur . Bruce Lee carried a gun, so I'm sure he knew what really stops an attack.
@@larssonk22 lol great response
Training in both Original (JPJKD) and Concepts, I prefer the orginal however some aspects of Kali are useful within Jun Fan...and as for the guy below posting that Bruce had no right to teach? Please,teaching is as much about the individual as it is the subject, more so even. Bruce saw the faults within Wing Chun and adapted it for functionality. Trapping is used to clear a barrier, you don't look for them, as my instructor says they are just a moment in time. You're still trying to hit the guy!
I disagree, from what I know Teri is researching ground fighting, a key element that I believe is missing from JKD, something that would have been researched much more in depth had Bruce Lee not died. She has said herself that anything that she does in this art will not be under the JKD banner.
the groundfighting was heavily researched by Dan.
Well I'm no I expert in JKD but Bruce did train with Wally J in the early 1960s so I'm pretty sure he was versed in throwing and had a ground game.
System or style? To me theres a huge difference between the two words.
Correct!
jkds3,
I know yousaid this a while back but I see that perhaps you have been misinformed. Dan Inosanto was and still is the only 3rd rank in JKD given directly from Bruce. Taky Kimura is indeed Dan's senior but only in Jun Fan Gung Fu. Dan admits to that. Bottom line is those are all great instructors because of who taught them. It really shouldn't matter but I thought I'd clear that up.
Cheers.
I don't know who's coolest Bruce Lee or Dan Inosanto.
Sry for my grammar.
My father got me into a Chinese society to learn KUNG fu. I can say I was the first non pure Chinese in there. I was about 10. The man running it didn’t like me cause he would always give me the angry look.
that sucks, glad times are changing
Yes, but we are looking at evolution in two different ways, expanding and reducing. Funny very ying and yang.
Can someone tell me how different JKD is from Kali. Ive seen videos here on YT and it seems a lot alike...I apologize if this is offensive in any sort of way
Hi, thanks for taking the time out to watch the video and post a question.
You can do a youtube or wiki search for specifics. But briefly, JKD is an unarmed street defence art created by Bruce Lee who was displeased with the state of martial arts at the time which had forgotten why martial arts were created. Many of the arts and the teaching failed to meet the requirements for real life fighting, so Bruce studied combat and explored combat philosophy as well as researched human biomechanics to create JKD. JKD's cornerstones are founded from boxing, fencing and wing chun. Its core principle is efficiency, no wasted movements and energy. Bruce had gotten to a stage in his own evolution that meant he used less and less wing chun, he was also researching grappling arts but died before he could really delve into it.
Kali/Eskrima is a Filipino armed martial art that uses sticks and knives, practitioners also learn how to fight with two weapons, as well as unarmed against armed opponents, which makes it one of the favoured arts for the military. It is very very different to JKD which has more of scientific approach to combat, and is designed for unarmed street fighting.
The confusion between the two comes from the JKD Concepts camp headed by Master Dan Inosanto, he followed his own path away from Bruce Lee's core principles, Bruce Lee believed in daily decrease, he was constantly trying to simplify his combat and his physical training. However in JKDC they will train in JKD, Grappling, and Kali.
BTW my comments should not be taken as A is better than B, at the end of the day *the man is always greater than the art*. It certainly helps to understand how weapons are used and how to protect yourself against them, sadly today armed street attacks are not a rarity. That's not to say JKD is outdated, the whole art's philosophy is grounded on stripping away the unessential, it is (or rather should be taught as) a simple, efficient and streamlined self defence system.
If you are interested in learning JKD that follows these core principles I would recommend you look up Tommy Carruthers who I believe is light years ahead of anybody. You can find many positive things said about him by Bruce Lee's own students and close friends Jesse Glover and Ted Wong (both of which passed away in recent years unfortunately) online.
JKD is a MMA family. In Inosanto's JKD, he employs Kali.
TheDonBarracuda you sound like you are against inosanto a little bit. Saying he strayed away from jkd principles. You are wrong
Marc Azurin Hi Marc, well thanks for reading my thoughts on the subject. I have complete respect for Master Inosanto's personal achievements, he is very deserving of his praise. But for me, there is little to show that JKDC has not strayed far from what Bruce Lee was teaching. If you have some experience you'd like to share, please do so.
I apologize for my very bold statement. I only meant to get your attention. I saw that your comments were from several months ago and did not know how inclined you would be to respond. I actually am not that strong of opinion in that statement, and would like to discuss it. If you could please humor me..
First, i think both ojkd and jkdc are great and amazing. I do not consider one greater than the other for my personal preference. I must explain that they both do exactly what they imply. Jkdc says concepts, and that's exactly what they have done, taken some of the concepts and applied and expanded them. Ojkd is exactly that, showing the original jkd that bruce Lee taught and shared in his life time. I think both have their value and worth. Jkd was meant to be a way of thinking. It is not to intercept the fist, but "how" will you intercept. Although, i would like to point out that jkd in effect has become a style. And of these two "styles" of jkd, one style pays him respect by mimicry(ojkd), while the other style pays him respect by trying to do as he says(jkdc). Ojkd i consider to be jkd in the time of Mr Lee's life. All the students of Mr Lee agree that he was always changing, learning, thinking, training, developing. Do you think that if Mr Lee was alive, jkd would be the exact same as the 60's and 70's? I personally don't think so. Jkdc on the other hand, shows an attempt at development, an attempt to try and find useful attributes out of other arts. But, if Mr Lee was alive, would he have agreed with this new way? I personally don't think so.
Please humor me, can you explain how you think inosanto has strayed?
I would like to say, if Bruce Lee didn't die so early, he would've probably trained with more filipino martial arts practicioners, and not just Dan Insanto...
Bruce Lee's opinion on Kali was just the basics he learned through Inosanto. Today, Inosanto has trained with more than 10+ masters/grandmasters of Kali... Believing and taking for a fact that Kali is not effective in self defence applications because of some basics taught to him from a friend would be ridiculous. So yes, the thoughts and the roads you take is also up to you!
we are talking about martial arts not politics, before the european arive , we have already literature , sanskreto and alibata. Our ancestors came from Indonesia and Malaysia , The Garoti is the stick My great grand father is garoti artist. the technique of garoti and and sword are almost the same . they call it eskrema.
I cannot blame you if your impresion is are bad. Some filipinos are good and some are bad.
@@sharpasfhuuk7355 total idiot!!!
Not at all, he is a very well respect Master.
Bruce got it wrong about kali that its only good for movies..now,would you teach JKD in military combat than kali?
Is he a filipino?
Ya
+Vincentquiel Del Prado An American of Filipino descent who's proud of his Filipino heritage and its contributions to the world of martial arts.
iliketheodds he has never had one fight in real life so as bruce would say swimming on dry land
He is a pure filipino migrated in us . I remember him . he is a movie actor . 1970s filpino movies.
What do YOU know about the neighbourhood he grew up in and what fights took place there? Were you there?
I think people get confused between Jun Fan Gung Fu, and Jeet Kune Do. JKD has now way and no style as style. Sigung Bruce even says in his own personal notes that if the name of JKD causes issues, discard the name. Also, Taky Kimura, the ONLY other living instructor in JKD & Jun Fan Gung Fu by Bruce Lee also supports and ALWAYS has nice things to say about Sifu Inosanto. Look at the ACTUAL ATTENDANCE of the people who talk about “Original” JKD. Also look at the fact that they ALL were taught by Sifu Inosanto and also certified by him, including Ted Wong. What people call “Original” JKD is just what was taught at the Chinatown school & Inosanto’s backyard class. Not what was taught to the higher level students privately like Larry Hartsell and Sifu Inosanto. (As Sifu Inosanto explains in this video). Sifu Inosanto DOES teach “Original” JKD. Every move, every set, exactly like it was taught back when Sigung Bruce Lee was alive. It’s under his Jun Fan (Bruce Lee’s Chinese name) Gung Fu curriculum. JKD Concepts is using the concepts found in JKD to grow as a fighter and understand combat better. Also, don’t forget, fighting is NOT what it was in the 1960’s-1970’s. Most martial artists have taken at least a portion of what Bruce Lee was doing, whether adding in weights & conditioning, cross-training, alive sparring, etc. Plus you have the BJJ & Muay Thai explosion. You have Karate people who have added boxing into their game, etc.
This interviewer putting me to sleep jeesh lol.
BRUCE LEE WRONG ABOUT SAYING KALI IS NOT USE IN COMBAT......WRONG
He didn't say that
just to clear things up a bit.jkd is not a style.its a philosophy.jun fan gung fu is what bruce lee did,this is the style,jkd is the philosophy he followed.
just to throw this out there lol but bruce's thoughts on fma were correct to his philosophy if that makes sense lol. fma parrys alot and uses limb destruction, weird throws and sweeps. to bruce and his philosophy if u didnt score meaning hitting to the face as fast as possible then to him its useless, he was a street fighter. jkd cutts in and intercepts attacks with strikes more so than with parrys so u can see why he would say fma wudnt work. just sayin.
Please watch Guro Dan's demonstration at the Smithsonian so you don't get the wrong idea about FMA. it's incredibly effective in the right situation
that concepts jkd is crap. the jun fan is good but all that knife and kali stuff is not jkd. forget learning all those arts. i teach the foundation of jkd, which comes from wing chun boxing fencing savate and grappling range, dan taugh what he knew, he was never a fighter but a very good teacher when he focuses on the jun fan, the skirts and kali dont work for me.
Whoooops. Inosanto blew it here. "Secretive"?? Bruce was alleged to have fought a "Wong Jack Man" because the Chinese masters already there in California didn't want him to teach non-Chinese. Because THEY were secretive. Bruce was supposed to have been fighting AGAINST that. Hence this alleged fight with Wong Jack Man...which I think never happened. If it HAD there surely would have been some photos, video footage and newspaper articles. The police would have heard about it and stopped it before it even began....etc.
Funny how so many have been WOW'd by the persona of Bruce Lee then and to this day they're overlooking so much of what Bruce/JKD was/is.
None of Bruce's students were "martial arts experts". Just guys that wanted to learn. So most weren't elite athletes. Champions at the state, national or world level. NO professionals. Most don't compete. Except two or 3 that did make it into the UFC...didn't get very far. But the majority don't compete...thus aren't proven. Which makes JKD not proven. Add the fact Bruce never finished studying a single martial art...Wing Chun...the one art he supposedly drew from the most...he never studied the complete system...only takes the average person about 4 years. Then he becomes ready to qualify as a "master/instructor". The rest of the arts he borrowed from he practiced even less...allegedly trained with Gene LaBell for a year. Judo/grappling. umm...
I think JKD has become Bruce's worst nightmare.
He has never fought in any martial arts competition. There is no proof that he could be a good fightet. One thing for sure is that he is a good talked. And a good teacher perhaps.
Bruce was trained by yip man a master. And was a true martial artist. Only a dummy like you would bring this up. He passed away early and had more to proove
Uhm so all the fighters lied? People went to train with a random wannabe? Bruh get over it. Mma is pussy shit bruh. Plenty of the toughest guys on the planet never had pro fights. They seen real combat. Son you dont know shit. Sit down and shut up. I seen more combat more fighting more crazy situations than 90 percent of mma fighters. Them dudes point fight. Their striking is amateur level yes factually 85 percent have weal defense and striking. 85 percent would not bear well in a street fight or with weapons ot numbers against them.
chinese said they are the best, yes they are ,but they're best in bullying!
The Japanese would disagree. Great pornstars, though.
thats why jkd is so crap ! it was just passed on quick shit
So if JKD is crap and the core of JKD is the basis of Wing Chun and evolved to Kick-Boxing for distances greater than inside a telephone booth, and was inspired by savate, then you are basically saying that
Wing Chun is crap - which didn't prevent William Cheung and WSL from winning severe fights
Kick Boxing is crap - go tell that to Joe Lewis and Benny Urquidez
Savate is crap - sure, gangsters, and good guys have been using it in the South of France for a few centuries for serious street-fighting, but YOU, you know all about it, right? They have been doing it all wrong all the time.
What do you think whould happen if Bruce Lee came back from the dead?
- Dan Inosanto whould run like hell.