Looks like another scam from our Indian company, last such scam I know was about smartphone for 500 or 1000 INR. Don't pay for money for pre-booking, always wait because such companies have habit of swindle off money collected in the name of pre-booking, such modulus operandi is old. Such system can't be manufactured for 500 INR and it is priced at such to attract gullible people to give the money that they won't see again. So, don't promote such stuff on your channel.
@@nitinkumar29 You raised a valid point. Pre-booking is not all about swindling money, Pre-booking have many more benifits if you leave this malicious Intentions aside. Pre-booking helps greatly in marketing and initial stages like capturing the demand, prediction of future demand and adjustments to the pricing, identifying the issues at initial stages rather than fixing at later stage. Add timely delivery and you have the perfect recipe for the pre-booking
The main reason behind the success of Rasberry Pi is their large community support as well as support from the company itself.....!! If Vicharak manages to do these kind support and community they can easily beat Rasberry Pi.....!!!
You covers those scientific advancement in INDIA which other TH-camrs and especially Indian Media fails to do so. Hatsoff for your valuable efforts keep going🧡🧡🧡🧡
This "Gareeb scientist" chap seems to be deleting my comments. This board is not from india. It is the exact same board as Rock 5 Model B from Radxa - a chinese company. Look up the board and see it.
Raspberry Pi is so awesome not because of its hardware capability but because of its big active community. You can find many drivers, libraries, and support for RPi easily. Previously also many good and better hardware platforms have come up but they were not able to compete with Rpi because of this. I Hope the Axon board will be able to create a good community.
For the winning of this company we the people have to support this company and also do some work around it and then it would be the main computer of raspberry Pi
@@GareebScientist As per now, it seems good. And I think, once they will go production level and that too on mass, price would come down to around 10k. Also, if they want people to buy it, they will have to release the OS image. We have some older raspberry pi boards which is used for on board machine learning using raw and continuous data, and most of the time they hit bottlenecks. This surely looks promising
Namaskaar sir, I'm also interested in in robotics, can you tell me how do I start? Although, I have a very small experience with Arduino, ESP32 and Raspberry Pie Zero 2w but couldn't make much progress, but now I want to work with real things. Plz, can you help🙏
@@GareebScientist definitely price is a bit higher than other boards but it all depends, I have used navigation for mobile robots on raspberry pi and sometimes its computation power sucks. If this new board is able to handle these it will definitely be a promising robotics application. And price will also come down a bit in future since they have to compete with raspberry pi and other boards
Guys we are the people who can create a community that can help support this product. Japan has had many local products supported by the Japanese initiallyand many of them are now popular worldwide. Agar hum bahar walo ke validation and support ke liye wait karenge to wo kabhi nahi aaega. Chinese SBCs ka special disadvantage ye tha ki bhut saare documentation and support forums chinese me the. This board has been in my radar for some time. I wish more people will buy and we can have a homegrown product with good support and availability.
for that, we need a pcb fab in india where we can send our designs and manufacture 5 pcbs in less than rs. 500, like jlcpcb. also, we need components supplier like rtc, bms, etc. we can start by developing cheap, designed and manufactured in india microcontroller development kits like arduino for less than rs. 500. its possible because mcu's like atmega only cost around $2. then the chain reaction will start, and we will be building our own sbcs, mobile phones, electronic appliances in no time.. hardware is not harder than software, its just that its inaccessible in india.
The point about the documentation being in other languages is so true. I am working on a project right now where we are using a Taiwanese development board. It is not exactly an sbc because it is supposed to be used more like a peripheral device from which u can use USB or uart communication. Been at it for about 2 months now. Could not read the documents initially because everything was in simplified Chinese. Wasted two weeks in the beginning like this. The project stalled almost completely. It was only after the translated version arrived that I was able to understand exactly what to do and realized how simple the process was.
More power to them. Such a cool product from an Indian company. Wish them all the success. This would actually be a really good dev server for handling your web apps or even a simple home automation system.
Ha home automation plus practice Instead of renting a vm to learn about code deployments, load testing etc, this would be a cheaper Power effecient mini pc
Surat is gonna be a serious competitor to all tier 2 cities in a decade. It's the fastest growing city economy in India, and ranks in the top 10 fastest growing cities globally. In a couple of decades, Surat might challenge the likes of Bengaluru or Pune, and might be counted in the top 5 cities of India. I did my undergrad there. The road infrastructure is miles better than all tier 2 cities.
@Aryanbhosale436 What did Uddhav say about Vadhwan. So, as a businessman, why will I come to Maharshtra if whose government is in power decides the major projects in the state. Me pn Maharashtrian ahe. But practically vichar kela pahije.
@@AdarshMadrechayou can use NVMe to SATA converter....!! Only thing is you have to manage the power.....how will you supply power to all that HDD/SSD ......Either using a jankier solution by using a PSU/SMPS or any thing else.....!!!
Yeah....!!! You can totally build a Small size portable NAS just like Jeff Geerling does in his channel...but not a full fledged high performance Home Server what I need....!!!😞
Koi Innovation nhi hai, isme Rockchip ka processor laga hai jo ki ek Chinese company hai. Chinese components ko laake assemble karna koi badi baat nhi hai, Mere paas aise log hai jo milkar ke isse bhi behtar board bana sakte hai. Innovation tab hota jab iska processor kisi Indian Company ke dwara design kiya hota wo bhi sirf India me . Lekin aisa hai nhi.
@@shivamagarwal2460 Yeh new bharat purane jaisa hi hai abhi. New Bharat tab kehna jab microprocessor bharat me hi kisi bharatiya company ke dwara designed ho , aur bhi accha ho agar wo microprocessor bharat me manufacture hua ho.
Nice review, well covered. Good to see a locally made/ assembled SBC. Price should work out to about 14,000 INR (500 pre booking + ₹11,599+ GST) from their website. Fair for the specifications.
16K Rs is expensive. I would rather run an old core2duo instead of this which is available at 3K Rs used. But I am happy Indians have started working on SBCs.
Believe me using a core2duo would be a very bad experience in 2024. I had a core2duo pc lying around in my home so I built a home server using it. 2x2TB Sata SSD in raid and I'm using OpenMediaVault for the OS. The file transfer speed is okayish (connected directly to my router with a gigabit connection) but you can't do much on it though the most I could do was run some containers like photoprism and jellyfin. Also the worst part was that it idled around 30W !!!!
@@akshat8586 It depends on the application actually. I think a small database would run fine with duckdb or QuestDB which are light weight & fast. It can also serve as long term backup machine. I am running two machines with ZFS RaidZ2 using G2030 CPU, runs totally fine as a backup server. I can also easily turn it into a CUDA test machine with a 4090 in it. I also can turn it into a Monitoring/Reporting server and it will do that job fully well. For these kinds of work I think 30W is not a big price to pay at all. These are ideas to make use of old hardware instead of spending 16K on a SBC, but if you have money to throw around a newer machine is always better though.
@@GareebScientist 2K for C2D. The remaining 14K for electricity bill for next 10 years🤣 C2D fits easily under my table/cot/attic so space is a madeup trivial problem. And it runs all X86 code easily. Ultimately 16K is too much for an SBC in India.
Even though I didn't understand a single thing, I love that our nation is working on these kind of things. Since, I don't understand chip design and architecture can some please share anything where I can learn about it.
Seems very interesting and glad to know that my country is gaining power gradually in the electronics industry. I work with Raspberry Pi and tried all versions of it. The Raspberry Pi 4 is the most popular so far because of wide software and community support. I did try Raspberry Pi 5. The hardwares are upgraded but it lags in terms of software support. So, I hope the company Bicharak will launch the final product with the wide variety of software support, so that it can beat R pi
Awesome, Now I want to try it, build my own PC. There's a great business opportunity if someone starts assembling all homegrown parts to build a fully Indian laptops which can be sold at relatively low prices.
I work with raspberry pi from 2015 from high school.I will surely buy such a board when launched. Even though community support exist for pi,open source contributors are in large numbers in india.The need for such a product in India is also very high among engineering and research students and atal innovation mission will certainly play a role. But the point is we need a stronger community which only someone such as you @gareeb Scientist could pull off.
Way to go Indian developers! You make me feel so proud! I cannot wait to get my hands on one and play with it. I bet this will also be much cheaper than the Raspberry Pi.
I have been using rpi3 and rpi5.Actually i am watching this on my rpi5 which is connected to projector. About this product, as you pointed out this is great for robotics project. This board is trying to become everything. I will prefer to use it for testing or tinkering but using it for one single purpose does not make sense mainly due to price and what it offers. For eg. This is ferrari and driving it everyday doesnt sound right.
Price tag is show stopper. SBCs are not rocket science these days. Unless they have plenty of funds and start making in a SoC like Rpi, the price may not be suitable for many as there are plenty of alternate options. Also I found there are lot of free space on the board, PCB Design needs lot of optimisations.
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Refreshing to see an Indian company, I would happily pay 2-3K to support an India company. And about cameras, you should try Frigate NVR. It uses NPU to do object recognition. Not sure if current NPU is supported but can be a great use case.
I so hope and pray that our electronics industry shapes up to what it is TRULY capable. This is one place I fully beleive we can ACTUALLY be a WORLD LEADER. and trust me I Iam not generous with my comments. Sadly though its not tech that holds us back its WE OUSELVES that is holding ourselves back. Change THAT .... and wow .. we will be famous for not only banana chips, potato chips and whatnot chips but also micro chips !!! CHEERS and JAI HO 1:10 "Designed in India by Vicharak" AWESOME
There are 2 problem with this SBC, namely: 1. Software support: Rockchip usually dont have good Linux kernel support. For that matter none of the ARM SOCs have good support except for RPi. There is no Widevine support if you wish to use it as a low power desktop and watch Netflix or PrimeVideo. 2. Cost: For 12000/- you can get a 5-6 gen Intel CPU with board, RAM to use as NAS or desktop with better software support. For 6k more you can get a 12th gen with 8GB RAM and 256GB NvME SSD which without RAM or storage will cost you 13000. It doesnt make sense for any group of enthusiasts
@@SushanthSomayaji mini-pcs dosen't have GPIO pins, or the csi/dsi connectors. mini pcs are basically "mini pc" with only usb ports. sbc are normally for IoT projects which involves sensors, actuators, etc. and this board is a big win with so many io options at a relatively good price. however, its hard to judge the board at beta phase. i think the price is going to increase when it gets officially released.😅
This won't be the case anymore as the mainline kernel has the support for rk3588. It may not be fully ready yet but pretty much usable since 6.7. I am running my orange pi 5 (rk3588 and rk3588s) SBCs on 6.7 - 6.11-rc1 as servers and they are working just fine. GPU, HDMI and HW decoders would be fully functional by next year (By that time AXON would be available for regular purchase).
RK3588 is a good chip one league above raspberry pi. I was dependent on Rock5b. Its great to see Indian maker of SBC. The price I believe should go down furthur once we Indians use it. Great work.....❤❤❤
RK3588S moq 1000 cost around 60$ PCBA would come to be another 30 - 40$ so approx 10-12K is a decent price, there are other vendors with rk3588s like khadas edge2 with 3 cam which cost 260$
Iam very great full for information , As a robotic engineering student it is great honor of buying indian product it is best for robotics control system.
Sahi h itna model ka speed ispe. Mere PC me 4070 pe run hota llama 3.1 8b instruct q6_k version babot tez h lekin price patah hi h pc ka. Waise hm open web ui use karte to uspe waise bhi thoda speed slow hota terminal se
Really Nice Stuff, Takes a lot to create something like this and at this level specially in India. Couple of things, price seems to be on higher side specially when you compete with RPI, start build Community, hire freelancers to write some application and/or drivers to provide initial support. If you have made an hardware you have already won 90% of the fight.
15 - 16000 is very good considering the big.little arch, throughput of 3 USB-Cs, NVME slot and HDMI pass-through. I hope the exposed pins are hooked up to a few SPI, I2C and interrupt/DMA controllers along with the UART you mentioned. I will buy one when it hits the market. As Indian companies are getting into hardware, we should also be concerned with privacy. As these gain more popularity, our government will also try to make them add backdoors and force them into performing all kinds of surveillances. I can see that modded kernel is open source, and we should make sure it stays that way.
looking at the kind of softpower that india has across the globe if india uses it right then as metric system from west became the standard, INDIA can make this a standard
its price is 16000 rupees if it would be cheaper then it would be great but you can aslo get latepanda under this amount and r pi 5 8 gb for around 7000 rupees
Recently working on Orange Pi 5 plus for AOSP customization. Its very challenging to find MIPI display, camera adapter and cables. Looking forward work on made in india board.
I have started to use rockchip based android tv boxes and install linux (armbian) on it. For around ₹2000, it is a very good Raspberry Pi alternative unless you need camera and gpio access. Some boards come with just 1GB of RAM, however some have true 4GB RAM which is more than sufficient for network based projects and IoT applications
@@earth2k66 I am currently using Tx9 pro which has RK3229 chipset. I don't remember which version of armbian I have installed but it works without any issue. You can also use H96 max tv boxes which have 4GB ram (from aliexpress or banggood)
@@earth2k66one more thing is avoid those boxes that mention mxq pro, v88 .. those have unsupported, outdated amlogic chipsets and fake their storage and ram capacities. Before installing, install device info hw apk and check the specifications
RK3588S and RPi5 are all the same. Why? Because: 1. The RAM has only 32 bit wide data bus 2. The RAM has a single channel. 20 years old PC had dual channels RAM with 2x64bit wide data bus = 128bit 3. The speed of the internal bus is slow 4. both use old architecture ARMv8 (Cortext A55 and A76 and A75) 5. None of them supports new ARM architecture v9. IMHO there should be 8 slow and 4 fast cores like in the nowadays laptops + dual channel RAM.
bro remember me when you had 10k I said you will reach heights *TRON_Gaming you have reached it I'm very pround of you soon you'll reach 1million that's my wish
A very potent platform for various workloads.. Iska cluster Kubernetes laga ke dala.. bawaal board hai.. Yeh Edge Data Centre ke liye perfect hai.. including IoT use cases. I will buy this above rpi anyday..
I think this could be very much worth it for doing stuff like homelab, docker, kubernetes, networking, and for prototyping dev work. Looking forward to try it out.
Absolutely, Raspberry Pi has large community but there price range starts from 3500/- in Hand in India including all taxes and all. there B+ 3 model has good features. Axon price are too much. If they can manage that type of large community then it can work.
6:05 Yes.....!!! RAM issue are real issue.... if we see in smart phones also I have Galaxy J6+ which has 4 core with 4 GB RAM and my father has Galaxy A10 which has 8 core but with 2 GB RAM....and to my surprise I saw my phone works way better and smoother than my father's one....!!
₹11500 initial price and expected price is ~₹15000 ;to be fair normal user would have better time with pi5 and external NPU for pi are also coming out , PI5 5v-5amp and AXON need 12v-5amp pi5 is more efficient
Is the launch vehicle 'Soorya' really going to be developed by ISRO or not? Could you also make a video about all the launch vehicles currently in use by ISRO and those planned for the future?
Who ever making this board, make sure to build an active community around it. When it comes to SBC, top priority is software support. That's why raspberry is always on the top.
ARM ka support toh thik hai par ig they should work on RISC-V too simultaneously. Framework already Ubuntu k sath lead le chuka hai ... ig this is a really good time ... kyuki future RISC-V jaise open-source cheezo ka hai
The controller seems awesome and definitely more capable than RaspberryPi but my main concern is the pricing. Why would I spend almost ₹15k-16k when I can buy a raspberryPi 5 for around ₹8k and can do almost everything my work require and leaving all things aside, it has huge community. So , its great that Indian brand is progressing so much but for now I would still prefer raspberryPi.
If your need is satisfied with rpi then you don't need this. This would be when you need more cores, more cpu, better gpu, more npu tops for your use case Yes rpis strength is it's community no doubt
Vicharaks official Axon site - vicharak.in/axon
Ther twitter - x.com/vicharak_in
Do Financially support channel by hitting join button
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Recently I watching some single board computer and itis a Indian company so can I buy this board can be delivered to my address??
Looks like another scam from our Indian company, last such scam I know was about smartphone for 500 or 1000 INR. Don't pay for money for pre-booking, always wait because such companies have habit of swindle off money collected in the name of pre-booking, such modulus operandi is old. Such system can't be manufactured for 500 INR and it is priced at such to attract gullible people to give the money that they won't see again. So, don't promote such stuff on your channel.
How to get free Raspberry Pi?
Make a review video 😂
@@nitinkumar29 You raised a valid point. Pre-booking is not all about swindling money, Pre-booking have many more benifits if you leave this malicious Intentions aside. Pre-booking helps greatly in marketing and initial stages like capturing the demand, prediction of future demand and adjustments to the pricing, identifying the issues at initial stages rather than fixing at later stage. Add timely delivery and you have the perfect recipe for the pre-booking
A practical SBC is not about hardware but about software support. This is the reason Raspberry Pi is so popular.
I agree. While I wish this board succeeds, I won't be surprised if it's completely forgotten after a while just like 100s of other SBCs.
@@snehanshourya3850 i am afraid this will happen, Indians are not known to be good community contributor
so true, upstreaming or keeping up with linux upstream is so important in sbc
True. There are chinese sbcs with higher specs and performance but software support is zilch
Software keliye hardware toh chie
The main reason behind the success of Rasberry Pi is their large community support as well as support from the company itself.....!! If Vicharak manages to do these kind support and community they can easily beat Rasberry Pi.....!!!
True
anything but Raspberry Pi are unsuccessful in that space because no one can beat the documentation + community around Raspberry Pi
you can build hardware but can't buy millions of people
And also include good marketing 😂
Some time back it was as same as Axon aka Vicharak today!! And yes, really impressed to know BHARAT is now making such products at home. noted.
You covers those scientific advancement in INDIA which other TH-camrs and especially Indian Media fails to do so.
Hatsoff for your valuable efforts
keep going🧡🧡🧡🧡
This "Gareeb scientist" chap seems to be deleting my comments. This board is not from india. It is the exact same board as Rock 5 Model B from Radxa - a chinese company. Look up the board and see it.
Raspberry Pi is so awesome not because of its hardware capability but because of its big active community. You can find many drivers, libraries, and support for RPi easily. Previously also many good and better hardware platforms have come up but they were not able to compete with Rpi because of this. I Hope the Axon board will be able to create a good community.
@@sauravbehera8364 that's why we have to come up and so are response dog some work about and support this company
For the winning of this company we the people have to support this company and also do some work around it and then it would be the main computer of raspberry Pi
glad to see it. I have been working in robotics and I know the pain of not having good SBC. will definitely buy it soon and use in my projects.
does this look good for the price?
@@GareebScientist Justified Price 13-15k
@@GareebScientist As per now, it seems good. And I think, once they will go production level and that too on mass, price would come down to around 10k. Also, if they want people to buy it, they will have to release the OS image.
We have some older raspberry pi boards which is used for on board machine learning using raw and continuous data, and most of the time they hit bottlenecks. This surely looks promising
Namaskaar sir, I'm also interested in in robotics, can you tell me how do I start?
Although, I have a very small experience with Arduino, ESP32 and Raspberry Pie Zero 2w but couldn't make much progress, but now I want to work with real things. Plz, can you help🙏
@@GareebScientist definitely price is a bit higher than other boards but it all depends, I have used navigation for mobile robots on raspberry pi and sometimes its computation power sucks. If this new board is able to handle these it will definitely be a promising robotics application. And price will also come down a bit in future since they have to compete with raspberry pi and other boards
Guys we are the people who can create a community that can help support this product. Japan has had many local products supported by the Japanese initiallyand many of them are now popular worldwide. Agar hum bahar walo ke validation and support ke liye wait karenge to wo kabhi nahi aaega. Chinese SBCs ka special disadvantage ye tha ki bhut saare documentation and support forums chinese me the.
This board has been in my radar for some time. I wish more people will buy and we can have a homegrown product with good support and availability.
for that, we need a pcb fab in india where we can send our designs and manufacture 5 pcbs in less than rs. 500, like jlcpcb. also, we need components supplier like rtc, bms, etc. we can start by developing cheap, designed and manufactured in india microcontroller development kits like arduino for less than rs. 500. its possible because mcu's like atmega only cost around $2. then the chain reaction will start, and we will be building our own sbcs, mobile phones, electronic appliances in no time.. hardware is not harder than software, its just that its inaccessible in india.
The point about the documentation being in other languages is so true.
I am working on a project right now where we are using a Taiwanese development board. It is not exactly an sbc because it is supposed to be used more like a peripheral device from which u can use USB or uart communication. Been at it for about 2 months now. Could not read the documents initially because everything was in simplified Chinese. Wasted two weeks in the beginning like this. The project stalled almost completely.
It was only after the translated version arrived that I was able to understand exactly what to do and realized how simple the process was.
Well, for one thing this is not a.board.designed or made in india. The board is from Radxa - a chinese company
More power to them.
Such a cool product from an Indian company. Wish them all the success.
This would actually be a really good dev server for handling your web apps or even a simple home automation system.
Ha home automation plus practice
Instead of renting a vm to learn about code deployments, load testing etc, this would be a cheaper Power effecient mini pc
Bro I work on that
for real ???
hey show us , do you have videos on it on your channel ?
Wow
Cool
Nice
Glad to see my city develop a lot, for a tier 2 city
Surat is gonna be a serious competitor to all tier 2 cities in a decade. It's the fastest growing city economy in India, and ranks in the top 10 fastest growing cities globally. In a couple of decades, Surat might challenge the likes of Bengaluru or Pune, and might be counted in the top 5 cities of India. I did my undergrad there. The road infrastructure is miles better than all tier 2 cities.
Man we need this in Mumbai too
@@Aryanbhosale436 thats the problem .. he is not only pm of gujarat but maharashtra as well..
@Aryanbhosale436 What did Uddhav say about Vadhwan. So, as a businessman, why will I come to Maharshtra if whose government is in power decides the major projects in the state. Me pn Maharashtrian ahe. But practically vichar kela pahije.
@@hrushikeshavachat900 right,end of the day we can't correct anything by just talking about it.
PCEI hona game changer hai, NAS setup build karke maza ayega
ye ab sab boards pe aya hein na , this patticular way of pcie
I am also thinking of NAS. But not sure if I can put more HHD
@@AdarshMadrechayou can use NVMe to SATA converter....!! Only thing is you have to manage the power.....how will you supply power to all that HDD/SSD ......Either using a jankier solution by using a PSU/SMPS or any thing else.....!!!
Yeah....!!! You can totally build a Small size portable NAS just like Jeff Geerling does in his channel...but not a full fledged high performance Home Server what I need....!!!😞
@@AdarshMadrecha what is NAS
The innovation going on in India is unreal!!!! 💪🇮🇳❤️
i wasnt expecting a SBC so soon, pleasently surpirsed
Koi Innovation nhi hai, isme Rockchip ka processor laga hai jo ki ek Chinese company hai. Chinese components ko laake assemble karna koi badi baat nhi hai, Mere paas aise log hai jo milkar ke isse bhi behtar board bana sakte hai. Innovation tab hota jab iska processor kisi Indian Company ke dwara design kiya hota wo bhi sirf India me . Lekin aisa hai nhi.
@@shubhamchatterjee4642 phele assembly hoga uske baad manufacturing bhi start hojayega keep faith on the new BHARAT
@@shivamagarwal2460 Yeh new bharat purane jaisa hi hai abhi. New Bharat tab kehna jab microprocessor bharat me hi kisi bharatiya company ke dwara designed ho , aur bhi accha ho agar wo microprocessor bharat me manufacture hua ho.
@@shubhamchatterjee4642 everything takes time buddy
Nice review, well covered. Good to see a locally made/ assembled SBC. Price should work out to about 14,000 INR (500 pre booking + ₹11,599+ GST) from their website. Fair for the specifications.
Kuch samaj me nahi aya lekin sun ke acha laga 😂😂
You watch reels, he watches reels
@@7056radhe He's from the field. I'm not. But I support GS anyways. I just watched the video coz he was giving some info n I respect that.
16K Rs is expensive. I would rather run an old core2duo instead of this which is available at 3K Rs used.
But I am happy Indians have started working on SBCs.
Over time core2duo would cost more due to Power consumption. This idle is 5-4ws with way more power then a core 2 duo. Plus space,
Believe me using a core2duo would be a very bad experience in 2024. I had a core2duo pc lying around in my home so I built a home server using it. 2x2TB Sata SSD in raid and I'm using OpenMediaVault for the OS. The file transfer speed is okayish (connected directly to my router with a gigabit connection) but you can't do much on it though the most I could do was run some containers like photoprism and jellyfin. Also the worst part was that it idled around 30W !!!!
@@akshat8586 It depends on the application actually. I think a small database would run fine with duckdb or QuestDB which are light weight & fast. It can also serve as long term backup machine. I am running two machines with ZFS RaidZ2 using G2030 CPU, runs totally fine as a backup server. I can also easily turn it into a CUDA test machine with a 4090 in it. I also can turn it into a Monitoring/Reporting server and it will do that job fully well. For these kinds of work I think 30W is not a big price to pay at all. These are ideas to make use of old hardware instead of spending 16K on a SBC, but if you have money to throw around a newer machine is always better though.
@@GareebScientist 2K for C2D. The remaining 14K for electricity bill for next 10 years🤣 C2D fits easily under my table/cot/attic so space is a madeup trivial problem. And it runs all X86 code easily. Ultimately 16K is too much for an SBC in India.
Even though I didn't understand a single thing, I love that our nation is working on these kind of things.
Since, I don't understand chip design and architecture can some please share anything where I can learn about it.
@@yogeshchaudhary2093 same here bro,,,
Seems very interesting and glad to know that my country is gaining power gradually in the electronics industry.
I work with Raspberry Pi and tried all versions of it. The Raspberry Pi 4 is the most popular so far because of wide software and community support. I did try Raspberry Pi 5. The hardwares are upgraded but it lags in terms of software support.
So, I hope the company Bicharak will launch the final product with the wide variety of software support, so that it can beat R pi
Amazing design 😮 0:13
This is a very exciting development. Love to see an Indian company enter the SBC space.
What is SBC ?
@@shivaprasad968 single board computer, like the Raspberry pi
Awesome, Now I want to try it, build my own PC. There's a great business opportunity if someone starts assembling all homegrown parts to build a fully Indian laptops which can be sold at relatively low prices.
Ngl, cheap laptops with ARM processors would be really cool. And if they put rk3588 inside, it would be a beast.
Good to see indian company, now i will try this board
I am happy to see we getting to this part of tech.
Amazing work for the hardware development of the segments.. so proud to see the Bharatiya design. Thank you for sharing the product details..
I am from Surat and Have talked with Akshar about the board. Such an intelligent guy and tried the product too. Really cool product! ❤
ask him to use the tagline "best products from the best country".
Please ask him why he is passing on the Rock 5 Model B board from Radxa (a chinese company) as a board which he developed
Please continue your work of reviewing bharatiya innovative products.
Power to you.
I work with raspberry pi from 2015 from high school.I will surely buy such a board when launched. Even though community support exist for pi,open source contributors are in large numbers in india.The need for such a product in India is also very high among engineering and research students and atal innovation mission will certainly play a role. But the point is we need a stronger community which only someone such as you @gareeb Scientist could pull off.
Glad to see these activities initiated in India... I am fascinated and want to contribute to these area...
Way to go Indian developers! You make me feel so proud! I cannot wait to get my hands on one and play with it. I bet this will also be much cheaper than the Raspberry Pi.
Informative video , keep it up bro🔥
Sir, where dissappeared so many isro updates new missions when will you make the updates videos, anxiously waiting for them
Really excited for it, hope so it doesn't disappear
I have been using rpi3 and rpi5.Actually i am watching this on my rpi5 which is connected to projector.
About this product, as you pointed out this is great for robotics project. This board is trying to become everything. I will prefer to use it for testing or tinkering but using it for one single purpose does not make sense mainly due to price and what it offers. For eg. This is ferrari and driving it everyday doesnt sound right.
Wow! great innovation. Great to see this kind of development.
Price tag is show stopper. SBCs are not rocket science these days. Unless they have plenty of funds and start making in a SoC like Rpi, the price may not be suitable for many as there are plenty of alternate options. Also I found there are lot of free space on the board, PCB Design needs lot of optimisations.
Achha lgta hai bhai ye dekhkrr ki these companies doing better ❤❤
I have RPI 4B (Purchased in 2021) 🙂
Really they have huge community ❤
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He has a large audience he's promoting your product.
Refreshing to see an Indian company, I would happily pay 2-3K to support an India company.
And about cameras, you should try Frigate NVR. It uses NPU to do object recognition. Not sure if current NPU is supported but can be a great use case.
Thank you bro for covering this type of products....
Keep doing brother love from Assam full support
I so hope and pray that our electronics industry shapes up to what it is TRULY capable.
This is one place I fully beleive we can ACTUALLY be a WORLD LEADER.
and trust me I Iam not generous with my comments.
Sadly though its not tech that holds us back its WE OUSELVES that is holding ourselves back.
Change THAT .... and wow .. we will be famous for not only banana chips, potato chips and whatnot chips but also micro chips !!!
CHEERS and JAI HO
1:10 "Designed in India by Vicharak" AWESOME
More cowdung needed.
Can you tell what happened to Shakti processor
Thanks a lot for making this video. So much details in it. This is so much better than Pi
There are 2 problem with this SBC, namely:
1. Software support: Rockchip usually dont have good Linux kernel support. For that matter none of the ARM SOCs have good support except for RPi. There is no Widevine support if you wish to use it as a low power desktop and watch Netflix or PrimeVideo.
2. Cost: For 12000/- you can get a 5-6 gen Intel CPU with board, RAM to use as NAS or desktop with better software support. For 6k more you can get a 12th gen with 8GB RAM and 256GB NvME SSD which without RAM or storage will cost you 13000.
It doesnt make sense for any group of enthusiasts
Agree with first point but don't think anyone buys sbc to replace pc
@@AffectionateBeignets-mx2qdagreed but no one buys a 12000 rs sbc just to create a cool project with. There are better and cheaper options for that.
@@AffectionateBeignets-mx2qd there are some applications where SBC is better suited, like standalone CNC controller
@@SushanthSomayaji mini-pcs dosen't have GPIO pins, or the csi/dsi connectors. mini pcs are basically "mini pc" with only usb ports. sbc are normally for IoT projects which involves sensors, actuators, etc. and this board is a big win with so many io options at a relatively good price. however, its hard to judge the board at beta phase. i think the price is going to increase when it gets officially released.😅
This won't be the case anymore as the mainline kernel has the support for rk3588. It may not be fully ready yet but pretty much usable since 6.7. I am running my orange pi 5 (rk3588 and rk3588s) SBCs on 6.7 - 6.11-rc1 as servers and they are working just fine. GPU, HDMI and HW decoders would be fully functional by next year (By that time AXON would be available for regular purchase).
I hope we'll be able to make made in India indian company's GPUs in near future ♥
RK3588 is a good chip one league above raspberry pi. I was dependent on Rock5b. Its great to see Indian maker of SBC. The price I believe should go down furthur once we Indians use it. Great work.....❤❤❤
How is this different from Rock 5B? This is the exact same board, if I am not wrong
RK3588S moq 1000 cost around 60$ PCBA would come to be another 30 - 40$ so approx 10-12K is a decent price, there are other vendors with rk3588s like khadas edge2 with 3 cam which cost 260$
Ha even rock pi is so expensive. Why though. Orange pi still fine
Iam very great full for information , As a robotic engineering student it is great honor of buying indian product it is best for robotics control system.
definitely waiting for the launch as soon as it launches i will try it will release some good Linux distro to make sure it gets some global coverage
Sahi h itna model ka speed ispe.
Mere PC me 4070 pe run hota llama 3.1 8b instruct q6_k version babot tez h lekin price patah hi h pc ka.
Waise hm open web ui use karte to uspe waise bhi thoda speed slow hota terminal se
Really Nice Stuff, Takes a lot to create something like this and at this level specially in India. Couple of things, price seems to be on higher side specially when you compete with RPI, start build Community, hire freelancers to write some application and/or drivers to provide initial support. If you have made an hardware you have already won 90% of the fight.
They should have used 40 PIN GPIO following Raspberry Pi since this will ensure a lot of compatible devices
IT क्षेत्र मे आत्मनिर्भर भारतका स्वदेशी Computer.
विचारक की जय हो...
7:10 Ethernet use nahi kia...??
Koi bata sakta kaise start kare ye boards pe?
Abhi ba software development karte hm, electronics ka zada idea ni lekin start karna h.
15 - 16000 is very good considering the big.little arch, throughput of 3 USB-Cs, NVME slot and HDMI pass-through. I hope the exposed pins are hooked up to a few SPI, I2C and interrupt/DMA controllers along with the UART you mentioned. I will buy one when it hits the market.
As Indian companies are getting into hardware, we should also be concerned with privacy. As these gain more popularity, our government will also try to make them add backdoors and force them into performing all kinds of surveillances. I can see that modded kernel is open source, and we should make sure it stays that way.
Govt shd promote this in high school and college electronics clubs. Give company grants to promote on college campuses.
This is so cool, can't wait for the production version
looking at the kind of softpower that india has across the globe if india uses it right then as metric system from west became the standard, INDIA can make this a standard
Really happy to see such products.
its price is 16000 rupees if it would be cheaper then it would be great but you can aslo get latepanda under this amount and r pi 5 8 gb for around 7000 rupees
4:40 when you lose the screw, just put a Electric Tape on the end of it, it will secure it very well, even i did for so many times.
FPGA retro console ko hardware ki tarah emulate karta hai jese nes/fc, sfc, gb, GBC, GBA, n64, nds, 3ds, etc
Recently working on Orange Pi 5 plus for AOSP customization. Its very challenging to find MIPI display, camera adapter and cables. Looking forward work on made in india board.
Fantastic product and thank you for this video
Interesting. I'll definitely buy this.
Might get one of these..... Would be running my game server in local network probably
I already have a homelab setup on raspberry Pi 5, would absolutely love to have this as well.
I am also looking forward to make my own homelab... If possible, pls share some details / photos of your Lab
I have started to use rockchip based android tv boxes and install linux (armbian) on it. For around ₹2000, it is a very good Raspberry Pi alternative unless you need camera and gpio access. Some boards come with just 1GB of RAM, however some have true 4GB RAM which is more than sufficient for network based projects and IoT applications
Awesome, can you tell me which Android box you are using and with which Arabian image? Bruh, I want a TV box to run linux too.
@@earth2k66 I am currently using Tx9 pro which has RK3229 chipset. I don't remember which version of armbian I have installed but it works without any issue. You can also use H96 max tv boxes which have 4GB ram (from aliexpress or banggood)
@@earth2k66one more thing is avoid those boxes that mention mxq pro, v88 .. those have unsupported, outdated amlogic chipsets and fake their storage and ram capacities. Before installing, install device info hw apk and check the specifications
I USE PI4 FOR INDUSTRIAL CONTROL SYSTEM OEM MACHINE ETC ,
I WILL USE THIS BOARD WHEN AVAILABLE
We want more deep tech videos in computation space
RK3588S and RPi5 are all the same. Why? Because:
1. The RAM has only 32 bit wide data bus
2. The RAM has a single channel. 20 years old PC had dual channels RAM with 2x64bit wide data bus = 128bit
3. The speed of the internal bus is slow
4. both use old architecture ARMv8 (Cortext A55 and A76 and A75)
5. None of them supports new ARM architecture v9. IMHO there should be 8 slow and 4 fast cores like in the nowadays laptops + dual channel RAM.
Make one video on esp 32 .... That's kinda useful and affordable too 😅
Cool! Gonna keep an eye out for it.
bro remember me when you had 10k I said you will reach heights *TRON_Gaming you have reached it I'm very pround of you soon you'll reach 1million that's my wish
There no point in comparing this tos raspberry Pi , unless this board comes near a price point below or near to RasPI.
Amazing, amazing news. Beauty is its 15k ₹, which for a first gen product is pretty competitive for the features
A very potent platform for various workloads..
Iska cluster Kubernetes laga ke dala.. bawaal board hai..
Yeh Edge Data Centre ke liye perfect hai.. including IoT use cases.
I will buy this above rpi anyday..
Amazing video! Keep up the great work!
I think this could be very much worth it for doing stuff like homelab, docker, kubernetes, networking, and for prototyping dev work. Looking forward to try it out.
Out of stock already!! But great video
Redio frequency transmitte kar sakte hai kya ese
❤Government should be advertise it to be said "THE FIRST MADE IN 🇮🇳INDIAN SBC BOARD DEVELOPED & AND TRYING TO BE BEST "
Just like lakshdweep❤
Nice. How good would it be as a personal nas or cloud storage device?
Absolutely, Raspberry Pi has large community but there price range starts from 3500/- in Hand in India including all taxes and all. there B+ 3 model has good features. Axon price are too much. If they can manage that type of large community then it can work.
Except that this board is the Rock 5B board from Radxa - A chinese company. Gareeb scientist knows this and has been deleting my comments on this
It's really good to see Indian products focused on selling for good quality and not by selling through the Made in India sentiment
Bhaiya isro ke RLV ke working model ko samjha dejiye .❤❤❤❤
6:05 Yes.....!!! RAM issue are real issue.... if we see in smart phones also I have Galaxy J6+ which has 4 core with 4 GB RAM and my father has Galaxy A10 which has 8 core but with 2 GB RAM....and to my surprise I saw my phone works way better and smoother than my father's one....!!
I think the price is good for what they offer I will try purchasing one if possible
15000 rs vs 7000 rs raspberry pi 5.raspberry has very big community’s we can do project and also we can use as pc it slowly then Indian version.
₹11500 initial price and expected price is ~₹15000 ;to be fair normal user would have better time with pi5 and external NPU for pi are also coming out , PI5 5v-5amp and AXON need 12v-5amp pi5 is more efficient
Brother make a video on how to lauch a individual satellite in india. Like what are the permissions to get, where to inform like that
First I found this video boring, but when I started It hooked me 😊
Is the launch vehicle 'Soorya' really going to be developed by ISRO or not? Could you also make a video about all the launch vehicles currently in use by ISRO and those planned for the future?
Would like to see something an India made Arduino with proper software support. Something that's competitive with generic arduinos.
Who ever making this board, make sure to build an active community around it. When it comes to SBC, top priority is software support. That's why raspberry is always on the top.
ARM ka support toh thik hai par ig they should work on RISC-V too simultaneously. Framework already Ubuntu k sath lead le chuka hai ... ig this is a really good time ... kyuki future RISC-V jaise open-source cheezo ka hai
Can I install windows on this?? Like R Pi??
The controller seems awesome and definitely more capable than RaspberryPi but my main concern is the pricing. Why would I spend almost ₹15k-16k when I can buy a raspberryPi 5 for around ₹8k and can do almost everything my work require and leaving all things aside, it has huge community. So , its great that Indian brand is progressing so much but for now I would still prefer raspberryPi.
If your need is satisfied with rpi then you don't need this. This would be when you need more cores, more cpu, better gpu, more npu tops for your use case
Yes rpis strength is it's community no doubt