Honestly unless you modded it with extra ventilation and changed out some of the faulty capacitors it would have died by now. But I loved that design and functionality it has.
They seriously need to find a way to bring PS3 compatibility to PS6. My PS3 is well maintained but its still old and these things wont hold out forever
Same. Although last I checked my PS and PS2 both also work last I checked. But I know PS3 has more points of fragility than those do, so I’d really like PS3 backwards compatibility, cause there a few BIG games trapped on it (A final fantasy and a metal gear for example)
🥺 i was Lonely and Depressed 😞 But PlayStation pulled me back to my Life 🥹 Trophy Hunting on PS Vita between my Medical School Classes. Boosting Online Trophies making Life Long Friends from different Countries 😢
@@BalluTheBoi boosting is an evil act, no wonder you were lonely and depressed to begin with. But hey, playstation got u socialising... even if it was with evil cheaters
PS5 will stay in my house for about 5 more years, I still feel like they just started this generation so definitely will postpone PS6 purchase and maybe even wait till PS6 PRO.
Same here, that's partly why I got the PS5 Pro. With 4K being the standard now and PSSR implemented into the PS5 Pro, it's in a sense future proof. Obviously the PS6 will be better, but we're at the point of diminishing returns so how much better it will be is very much a hard sell. Plus there's still so many first party games we don't know about for the next 4 years from Sony
@@DeadPhoenix86DP not with the way phil spencer is taking xbox he’d rather drop making consoles and have the games be available on everything else. And we thought jim was bad phil is worse
I think it's so lame that PS5 doesn't read CDs, as a physical media collector and music lover it sucks and it just feels so "anti Sony" to do that, since the PS1 Sony had pride in their devices playing all kinds of media plus Sony is also a huge music label that releases CD's by the truckload to this day.
They’ve decided to be more “specialised” Interestingly the PS2’s selling point was playing blu ray movies And thr Xbox one failed because it was marketed as a way of watching TV 😂
@@RichardBrady-nz1gv I do not, but I do know it would require an extra laser to be added, which woudl raise the cost-per-unit but offer virtually no benefit to anyone. If you still own CDs, you have a CD/DVD player. Might as well ask why it doesn't play vinyl records, too.
@@proggz39Correct! I don’t know why people constantly complain about prices, the more and more we go into the "future" I do not expect anything to get cheaper!
Ryan will one day be sixty and still hoping and wishing for PS3 backwards compatibility. 😂 I moved on from that fantasy years ago; that’s why I own four launch model PS3 consoles.
@@racky2 it's electronics, everything can be fixed just do it patiently and calmly, i had the same problem with one, it took me a full week to have it working properly, its very frustrating and is designed to never be repaired too, so have that in mind keep working on it
I don't see why it's such a big issue to him seeing as he already has a couple of PS3s. It's not like the younger generation are going to be interested in playing those games from twenty years ago. Ok fine, having faster loading would be nice but it's not that big a deal.
@@cun7us We just want an accessible machine to play our old games without emulation issues, TV connection issues (pre-HDMI) and without defective GPU chips which these launch PS3s are full of. I don't understand why Sony can't just resell those PS3s on a minor scale for collectors without the defective chips and more storage support. They can sell it at a profit instead of a loss since they won't be able to sell you the software - this way they don't lose money. I'm sure there would be many people (myself included) who would want that.
It’s never really been about the lack of games. Obviously PS5 has many, many games coming out. It’s the time necessary for iteration on ideas that has been dreadful and damaging to my opinion on the brand. Uncharted 2007, Uncharted 2 - 2009, Uncharted 2011. We used to get multiple iterations of a brand new franchise in a single console cycle. Now you are lucky to get one.
@@lemming9984PlayStation actually doesn’t do that. Outside of live service games, you can play games from start to finish on PS consoles because they put all the data on disc. You can test this out yourself the next time you get a game on disc.
It always baffles me that people will for example go spend 2 grand on a foldable phone that they'll use maybe a year or 2. But then also scoff at the price of a console that they'll buy maybe once a decade!? Odd.
Even older phones such as the S7 edge and S8+ can smoothly work modern day tasks/jobs, games etc. Never understood why people even upgrade in 1-2 years. I keep my phones for 5 years atleast. I upgraded to S7 edge to S23 in 2023.
Tbh, majority of the most notable PS3 games are available on PS4/5 via remasters or remakes. The only games I’d really want at this point are Ratchet, Infamous and MGS4
Quality of life/convenience improvements are the main reason I’d like to see PS3 emulation. I have multiple working PS3s but I don’t feel like having it hooked up to my TV and having to play with a DualShock 3 and use the slow XMB and stuff like that
Upgrading to an SSD dramatically speeds up the XMB. The caveat to that is, though, that I believe it may be causing compatibility issues for digital PS1 games.
@@dapperfan44interesting. Remember those 12gb super slim PS3 models? I think they were using flash memory or something so faster than all the other HDD models, did it also suffer the digital PS1 compatibility issue you speak of too?
@craigsampson3386 OH! Maybe THAT's the reason why. That's the model I'm using, where I have problems on some PS1 games-mainly Spyro, but the OG discs are perfectly fine. I also have a 60 GB PS3, but I don't use it as much because I modded my PS2.
@@dapperfan44 yeah potentially, it wouldn't get covered alot since it's a relatively rare model. From memory I think you can still add in a HDD in those models if you wanted to if that fixes your problem if that is the cause. Although people that have installed SSDs into their console i havn't heard any problems before but who knows? Also on that note I'd presume the PS3 would also bottle neck just the same as a PS4 does for SSDs full speed potential, although it's still a big improvement over stock HDDs speeds.
@@craigsampson3386 True that there is a bottleneck, BUT there is still improvement. It's mostly seen with digitally installed items. It holds true for my aforementioned modded PS2 as well. Games with problematic load times like Crash Wrath and Bully load in mere seconds, compared to how long they take from the disc.
Crazy to think that to the new folks backwards compatibility to them means PS6 games down to PS4 but to us older folks it be a dream for PS6 to play all the way from PS6 down to Playstation 1 games…A man can dream.
Another great video Mystic ! And good for you for not backing down when your boy Spawnwave was trying to make you agree that ps5 pro was a bad deal lol
The abandonment of older games is very sad, Sony had the right vision with the early PS3 models but we didn't really care back then when they changed and now it's too late. I know it's very difficult and expensive to build backwards compatibility but in a perfect world games would be available for ever regardless of the system and how old they are at least from the same console manufacturer just like movies and music. Art is for ever and shouldn't be abandoned or out of print
You say that but remember how crushed they were at the start of that console war. Had they stuck with that vision they might be in the place of strength in the industry they are now. The fact is backwards compatibility is both an expensive and a niche desire. Those two don’t add up to profitability. If Sony were a charity or interested only in being a niche offering for hobbyists, then that vision might make sense. The only reason backwards compatibility came back somewhat with this generation is because it’s cheap when the architecture is so similar. Based on that Ryan’s right that IF PS6 has a disc drive I could see it being compatible down to PS4. However that’s a huge IF. If their’s a disc drive at all on PS6, it will be an extra accessory and likely not even lock into the console like the latest PS5s do. I’m not expecting to see one at all, that way I’ll be happy if they surprise me.
Hopefully if Sony chooses to port PS3 games to PS5, they focus on their first and second party exclusives as the vast majority of great third party games from the seventh generation (barring a few holdouts like Eternal Sonata), are already playable on current generation hardware. So from Sony, I hope they port the following- Heavenly Sword Infamous 1&2 Resistance trilogy Ratchet and Clank Future trilogy LittleBigPlanet 1&2 3D Dot Game Heroes Killzone Trilogy Motorstorm Puppeteer PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale Just to name a few lol.
Out of my Ps3, Ps4, and Ps5 my favorite is the Ps4. I prefer the whole software experience with the happy home music and custom themes. All though i can play all my Ps4 games on my Ps5 and visa versa its just not the same.
I think the problem with the Ps5 isn’t a lack of games, I mean last week alone we got Metaphor, Silent Hill 2 and Sparking Zero, but it’s the amount of Ps5 EXCLUSIVE games. The Wikipedia page for the Ps5 only has 22 exclusive games, and that’s including games that haven’t even released yet or are for the PSVR2 which is its own thing. I think Sony’s in a weird situation where they could either go Nintendo’s direction and focus on software exclusively for their hardware or go Xbox’s route and focus on making software for as many different devices as possible. Sony seems to be going in the latter direction
"Sony seems to be going in the latter direction." So, they have chosen death. I agree with you. But PS exclusivity is all they had going for them. They are going to get battered if they try to compete with the entire overcrowded market with $300 million dollar projects (as is already happening). Sony has lost its way.
Most exclusives Sony had throughout the years were third party anyway. People keep saying the PS4 had so many more games, but they neglect to mention that Nier Automata, the Yakuza franchise, Ni No Kuni 2, and Persona 5 were all part of the exclusive lineup. You can still play the newest iterations of these properties on PS5, but they aren't exclusive anymore. It is not like Yakuza 0 needed the POWER OF THE PS4 in order for the game to run. The Switch proves that quite a few of these 8th generation games did not really use the power of any console. Nier Automata, Ni No Kuni 2, No Man's Sky, Doom 2016, and Wolfenstein 2 proved that a lot of the then "current generation" titles might have been able to run on 7th generation systems. Tales of Beseria had a PS3 version in Japan but only a PS4 version in the West. The majority of third party exclusive software on PS4 could have been done on various other systems. People hold onto exclusives as if they are still unique pieces of software that only one system can pull off. The days of unique hardware are over. Exclusives are just properties own by a console manufacturer or a deal made with a third party. 99% of the software out there can be played on almost any device. "There are no exclusives out for my preferred piece of metal and plastic, so now I have wasted my money." "I guess I can buy another piece of metal and plastic for the same price or more than I already paid." It is not like there are various options out on the market. There are only four places to go, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, or PC. PC has access to a lot, but you could need to configure your settings before playing a game properly. Nintendo doesn't get some games the other companies do. Xbox is also on PC. Sony is doing the traditional console approach.
Times and financial moments is of the essence. When I got into PS4, 5 years later after all the amazing games that we had throughout that gen I knew that If PS5 were to force me to let go of all that I wouldn't have got into PS5. I think I'm not alone in this and SONY is well aware of that.
Reforge Gaming did a video about the recent PS4 remasters, and one point he made was that the die-hard, longstanding PlayStation fans (the ones who played on PS1, PS2 and the like, maybe PS3 too) are not the only customers in the PS5 ecosystem. That there are millions of people who have a PS5, but didn't have a PS4, and that Sony is catering to those people too with releases like Horizon Zero Dawn remastered and others.
The thing is that the PS5 already plays all PS4 games via BC. New users could still play them just fine without remasters. Hell, some of the games even ALREADY HAD PS5 ENCHANCEMENTS!!!!
@@vini_inestimavel I highly recommend you go watch that video, as another point RG made was that Sony wants to raise the graphical ceiling for all their major ops as much as possible
@@unicorntomboy9736HZD is already graphically pleasing game that looks better than most PS5 games we've seen. On top of the fact of PS5 being BC theres no good reason for them to remake it besides the fact of them being money hungry.
@@StepBackWill Regarding Horizon Zero Dawn, they are not remaking the game, it is a remaster, strictly speaking. I cannot imagine it takes that much resources to develop it, not cost that much for Sony. I doubt it's taking away resources from Horizon 3, or whatever else Guerilla Games is working on, nor are the core development team doing it, it's probably a smaller off-shoot team.
I would pay extra to have full backwards compatibility with games from PSone, PS2, PS3, PS4, PS5, PSP and PS Vita on the PS6. It's a feature that is very important to me.
At most it seems an emulator inside the ps6 or just remastering them and porting them over, there’s a reason why with those god of war remasters the psp games don’t get included
2:58 Instead of putting UMD slot in a home console, Sony can save that separately for a the ultimate sony handheld (PSP + Vita back compat). Like Ryan said, likely never going to. happen lol. Maybe there'll be a PSP classic in the future lol.
Emulation for PS4 and 5 is unnecessary and would be laggy and that shouldnt be a problem as long as it backwards compatible with PS5 and PS4 nativly. However For the ps1-ps3 emulation will absolutely be needed as those have a very different architecture then x86 especially PS3 cell processor that was a pain for devs to code on and because of that , it's cell chip is also a pain to emulate PS3
That makes no sense, the more gens pass with discs on, the harder it will be to force a change, what would they tell to the consumers? “Yeah fu buy 3 gens of your games digital now” What does make sense is increasing the price of physical, to justify its existence, like that attachable disc drive and maybe more expensive discs than digital
In order to fix Playstation Sony should really do these easy steps: 1-Sell consoles at a loss like they always did. 2-Make profit with games and accesories 2.5-Sony should starting outsorurcing small budget games like Nintendo does to feed the console's library, this cicle of waiting 2 years for a mayor Playstation Studios game is insane. 3-Dont get rid of physical media and ALWAYS make an option wether you like phisical or digital only, dont force digital into anything. 4-Make a streaming service like Game pass and include it on Extra and premium, Paying for only to play online is BS, at least make the price worth it.
@Steelix371 its easy to say cuz its worked for 5 generations of their consoles already. Theyre struggling now because of their bad strategy in releasing games. A customer shouldnt need to pay more for their mistakes
Your camera has developed a hot pixel :P You can see it on the background of the black table. I thought it was my monitor! Other than that, the video has inspired me to try and get a working back-compat PS3. I had one back in the day, but I used to sell all of my consoles before the PS4. Ironically the PSP and Vita are the only older consoles I kept!
I wish devs would just pay a little more for a life time use of licensing for stuff like music in their games, so that they don't have to patch it out years later or delist old games forsale.
The way I see things, the console market is going to end up like the smartphone market. There will be a new current model that will cost a bomb (PS5 pro, the PS6 and so forth) and that will be the more cutting edge stuff, but there will always be a cheaper alternative in the form of previous gen consoles that can still do a lot of the same stuff - all while the software will remain backwards compatible. Since the PS4 has a similar architecture to current gen games, and can still run most of them - then why not keep it around for the PS6 generation? Can imagine it would play less games but it would still sell well to casual audiences. I’m typing this on an iPhone XR, a phone which is still supported, and still does a lot of the same stuff that the latest model can do - albeit with a few less pixels on the camera.
The future of Playstation is extremely bright. The games they released this year is proof enough. They said this year was the "Year of Xbox Games" and an OFF YEAR for Playstation software... And now that we're almost in November... it's kind of funny how well THAT take aged.
50/50 Are Steam players actually playing their library? NOPE. People aren’t purely logical. And from what I’ve seen Blockbuster games sell regardless if they are loved by the public.
@@Embrace_the_darkness look at what that goodwill got Xbox last generation for supporting Xbox 360 games. They had less money left to make new games. That's evidence that backwards compatibility is wasting money. Add on top of that gamers are not willing to pay more for games.
The ps6 won’t have a disc drive. At least you’re finally opening up to the idea that that is a possibility, I remember you used to be confident that it will.
I'm guessing they will sell an optional disc drive like how the slim has. But with only 20% of game sales being physical, they probably won't bother even making one for the ps7.
@@mbern4530 I don’t think they will, as that 20% number is only getting lower, it’s eventually no longer going to make business sense to make one. I don’t think they will wait for ps7 to go all digital.
If the numbers keep going down that is a real possibility, the question is how low does it have to get before they cut it off? Even at 10% that would be over 10 million units at PS4 sales numbers, but maybe at 5% they just don't bother? It will be interesting to see what the numbers look like in the next few years because digital sales went from 53% in 2019 to 80% in 2024.
@@mbern4530 I think they’ll cut it off sooner rather than later, as every single physical software sale is less profitable than if a digital sale took its place. Most people would buy digital if the physical option were no longer there, and that’s not even factoring in used copies. Publishers are only paid for the initial sale; every used sale is worth $0.
Ikr not like we lost almost two years to 🦠that was just a figment of our imagination….look at it as we started in 2022 since we pretty much did and it’ll help those ill feelings.
@@reelroyalevizion800 yeah I know this year Sony has been on fire despite what everybody else says, 2024 has been a far far better year than 2023 for the PS5, so many great games But people have been talking nonsense about owned games and what not, that doesn’t matter to people at all People just want to have good games available to play
You can easily stay on PS5/PS5 PRO for additional 4+- years (~8 years total!), because majority of the games will be crossgen as it happened with PS4->PS5. And it'll be happening even MORE because game dev cycles getting bigger and bigger, 5-6 years to produce one big game. By that time you can also jump straight to PS6 PRO which will be released around that time frame. Additionaly, you can't turn much profit with new installbase, consisted of 5-10 million users. Because main revenue is made during the time when game is selling at full price. And, to be honest, looking at the diminishing returns of nowadays graphics and stuff, you don't lose much. Devs should concentrate on making an interesting GAMEplay first and foremost, rather than graphics. But I understand that it's easier for publishers to sell games to masses this way, which is sad reality we are living in. I think, speaking of a visual aspect of the videogames, the main thing here is art style. Great art style is the king, it can make game amazing even with the lack of tech complexity and budget.
There is no reason the PS5 can't handle running PS3 - I am aware of the Cell Processor - Which is why Sony needs to use an emulator that runs on X86 hardware such as RPCS3 - the ps5 hardware should be able to run that
@@matcam89 Yes, they cannot, since CELL was a completely different design architecture and games needed to be specifically ported for very power for that time CELL processor. Current consoles use x86 processors, while CELL was using proprietary architecture
Unfortunately I think physical media is going away, specifically for PlayStation and Xbox. At that point I will own neither, and keep my old consoles and just play on Nintendo and PC.
6th gen had the widest variety of consoles (Dreamcast PS2 Xbox Gamecube GBA PSP) as well as games that we wont see ever again Corporate greed took over during PS3/360 (im 100% guilty here as well but buying all the dlc$ for lots of games) led to the half a$$ed, day one patch/updates garbage we have now I’ve been playing PS3 over a decade, PS4 handful of years.. just still waiting for the actual games that make me say yeah! I need to buy a PS5 now.. GTA 6 only game that has my interest
@@tomasgomez9925 I think we were all quite naive. I remember when I got my PS2 games like GTA SA, Burnout 3, Silent Hill 2, Jak, etc I just thought to my self: "this is mind blowing, I can't wait to see what the future brings"... my younger self would have been massively disappointed. I know good games still come out like Astro Bot but it's rare now and most of them lack so much creativity it's insane... I won't even talk about the remakes because it kind of shows the absolute state of industry bare naked.
Backwards compatibility is a feature that should’ve been in the base PS5, and added sometime into the PS4’s lifecycle. There’s no excuse for the feature’s exclusion since hobbyists in their spare time were able to get PS3 emulation working on PC, and restored online functionality/added it to some games that didn’t have it before (I’ve been playing Resistance, the older Ratchet and Clanks, and a few others through RPCS3 and having a blast. Such a shame Sony abandoned so many of their old IPs). Certain Nintendo systems are backwards compatible, the current Xbox models are backwards compatible with a good chunk of the library (if you pay $20 for dev mode you can install emulators going up to the Wii/PS2 on your device, and load up a bunch of ROMs. If you want a great emulation machine I’d suggest buying a used Series S. I’ve heard talks about people being able to port over RPCS3, but haven’t seen anything concrete), and the original PS3 was backwards compatible with PS1/2 games.
Hey bud idk if you know this but PS3 emulation or anything PS3 related is a pain to pull off because of it's very very weird cell processor that was a pain for devs to code for as well
@kirby21-xz4rx In the past PS3 emulation was garbage because of the cell processing. Now aside from a few audio/visual glitches and slowdown in a few areas it’s really good. The games play super well. You can also use any controller with it, and I recently bought a PS5 controller for a more “authentic” experience, and because games like Killzone 2 have mandatory motion controls that can prevent you from beating the game (still need to first finish the Resistance trilogy. Then I’ll move onto Killzone). This is all done by people unaffiliated with Sony who are working for free (there’s definitely people who get money through Patreon, and I have no issues with them doing that as long as they aren’t hiding builds/features behind a paywall). What Sony should do is either work with the community to get the emulator working on PS4/5 (in dev mode you can add emulators to the Series X/S. As long as Sony’s OS for PS4/5 is t something really weird it should be possible to get emulators running on their hardware. Hopefully, people who jailbreak their consoles will be able to figure that out). Or at the very least just make collections of their old games ported to PS4/5 and PC, like the PS2 collections that were made for PS3.
The problem with the slow output for games, is not about the number of games, but particular games that we want or games from particular studios that we want are taking too long. In other words, it is about our favourite games or game studios. The over ten year wait between The Elder Scrolls and Fallout games for example. Or the 8-10 years between Ratchet and Clank games.
1) PS3 SOC, not needed. One more hardware generation and it should be stupid easy to emulate a PS3 compared to 13 years ago. They are certainly getting there. 2) CD laser is a myth. They could easily read a CD in the PS5 if they just refocused the lens and laser. Blue light is a narrower beam, but that doesn't mean that it can't fit the grooves of a wider red beam of DVD or CD. Which is exactly what it is doing now for modern DVD playback. With a bit of work they could do the same for UMD. I wouldn't mind if the UMD drive was an accessory we hooked up to a USB port on a PS6/7/X Anniversary Edition. So the whole library could be played.
I would be fine with 6 not being physical back compat if we finally moved to something like thumb drives; just something that has MORE storage than blu rays so the entire game fits & further ensures game ownership. Plus with something like thumb drives they can have multiple ports & you could have multiple games plugged in at once for more convenience as well.
I mean… if they can integrate some FPUs in the CPU architecture, they could practically natively support PS3 Cell processor reliant games. The only thing that would be necessary aside from the necessary microcode to display graphics correctly, is to make sure that the lasers have the ability to read all the different color discs. I think that with Vita and PSP UMD support, the physical support would be unlikely to see the light of day, but emulation via a service like Nintendo’s Virtual console, tied into PS Plus, would be great!
Instead of a Cell processor they just need a Field Programmable Gate Array processor (FPGA). That alone could cover old gen consoles precisely and accurately.
Future of Playstation might be worse than we think. Thibgs that held me to playstations were 1. Physical games 2. Exclusivity 3. Easy Setup 4. Cheaper machine Ps6 is likely to have disc drive but its doubtful how much the physical media will be suppoted, we have already seen 2 goty contender baulders gate and alan wake gave up on physical games at start. This might be beginning of the end. Exclusivity does not have a place in future gaming specially when console will cost 700 usd and games will cost 70. We already seeing the end of exclusivity. Gone are the days you plug console and play. Now you have to set the stand up, find turorials to install ssd, attach disc drives. Consoles are couple of steps away from being a branded subsidized pc. Lastly cheaper machine is no longer a trend. Subsidized consoles are thing of past. 700 usd for a ps5 pro which plays 1440p games natively and uses upscaling for 4k. We can actually set up a gaming pc with similar specs in just a little more. That give us power of using pc in other ways, cheaper games, moding, doing pc specific work, playing xbox and pc exclusive games, better upgrade path, free multiplayer etc etc. I had every playstation ps1 to 5 but already thinking about getting a gaming pc now.
Get that gaming PC man, will be the best gaming decision you'll ever make. I ditched my PS5 2 months ago and went full PC after years of being on the fence and I have 0 regrets.
Optical discs are going away. For music, movies, and computer software they’re already obsolescent due to the mass market preferring streaming or downloading music, movies, software etc. That means the drives and disc manufacturing is going to become more expensive. Discs are increasingly just tradable licences now as games launch with huge day one patches, or are at least significantly improved within the first few months. And every bought used disc is zero money for the developer or platform holder, so it’s inevitable that PlayStation and everyone else will eventually migrate to digital only.
Huh? What does having a theme have to do with the future of a console? Do you really look at that home screen for that long that you can't stand the standard background anymore?
PS6 needs to play CDs, DVDs and Blu rays. A cell SOC isn’t necessary if they have good software emulation. I agree that the PS6’s cpu will probably be powerful enough to emulate the cell. I just want to pop in my metal gear collection and mgs4 disc into the ps6 and play those games at higher res and 60fps
A nice next move would be PS6 is comes out as slim however we have the option of buying tier drives that include Blu-ray/DVD, then highest tier includes CD for emulating most PlayStation library 👍👍
If consoles are going to become all digital, it's crucial going forward that they be backwards compatible and essentially PCs. I'm not going to spend $1000 of dollars on digital games only to get to play and have access to them on that specific system. There's no excuse to simply just consider them "PlayStation" games and they work on all models. That's the big benefit to PC to me. I can play games from the 80s, 90s and the future with my current build. It's all one platform. The lines are beginning to blur and digital really has hurt consoles in a lot of ways.
I got an idea since Sony likes to drop multiple versions of a console. PlayStation 6 - Plays PlayStation 6,5,4 games. No disc drive. $800 PlayStation 6 Elite - Plays PlayStation 6,5,4,3,2,1 games, Blu-ray, DVD, CDs. $1000
The discussion I’m reading here is anything but optimistic. My optimism is that PS4 remains a “forever baseline” and that library doesn’t go away. The way thinks are going, PS6 will be announced and 40%+ of PS users will still be on PS4.
I love my PS3 but I went full PC at the end of the PS4's cycle and haven't looked back since, got sick and tired of being nickel and dimed by Sony. My generations Sony doesn't exist anymore and that's a fact plain and simple, Sony has turned into a overly greedy game company. With what I can do with my PC blows consoles out to the wind. Having to pay $24 a month to barely get PS1 games on the PS5 compared to simply emulating them on PC is unreal. Way too much fanboying and D riding is what keeps Sony propped up. Hey I used to be one of those people until I woke up and realized there is better.....
After this generation, I feel I'm done with gaming. I started with Intellivision, and enjoyed every advance with every new generation. My PS5 is largely unused, and I can't see things improving with games that appeal to me in the next gen. I never do GAAS, anything Woke, remakes/remasters or games that are just another copy of the previous one. It was good while it lasted.
console fans: oi boi oi boi i cant wait to trash 800 bucks for the ps5 pro man omg im wet PC master race enjoyer: Ah yes, i will just get a 4090 and skip another 3 generations of consoles, which is the same price as this piece of sh
Master race lol Playstation inferior superior supremacy etc to reconqure the GLOBALISM az usual. Playstation brand's strong domaince etc & influencer every where's too.
Price to performance has a lot of variables. Can definitely build a 700-800 pc that surpasses the pro. If we’re taking price to performance you gotta factor in paying for online on console
I have both ps5 and xbox. Honestly the fact that I can put ANY xbox game disc and it works, is crazy. Don't even get me started with the speed cap that sony puts on the PS. But I've been PS all my life so I rather have the best of both worlds 😅😂
The problem with the commentary on consoles, specifically the PS consoles is that there is a increase in the effort to find fault in the console model as a way to justify purchases made for PC or other platforms. Sony and PS have been really smart with thier platform moves and is really playing 4d chess with the social media space when it comes to how they've positioned the console and the brand. As it stands, the PS5 and PS5 pro represent the best for price to performance in the mid range segment of the hardware spectrum. What this has done is place Sony and PS brand as the midpoint of the gaming heirachy. If Nintendo is seen as the gateway into gaming, then PS is the next logical evolution of that before one delves into the deep waters of high end PC gaming. What Sony has done over the last 2 generations is create an insular layer of sticky products and services that are designed to keep players in thier ecosystem. Prior to this generation of consoles players might look to PC toward mid range hardware as a way to upgrade thier experience and this generation that is no longer necessary....now if you own a base PS5, becuase of digital libraries and the optional disk drive....a PS5 pro is gonna to vastly beat out any mid tier PC on price to performance, PSVR2 makes it so that you don't ever need to leave the platform for VR except for platform specific exclusive games (which are less prevelant than PSVR2 exclusives), and the Portal satisfies the desire for a handheld without the falling into the trap of more expensive niche hardware and reduced performance in games being that most expect to play thier existing libraries instead of dedicated handheld games. Its all strategically placed to keep players in the PS ecosystem as there are very few reasons to advance beyond what PS offers even if their overall vision has yet to come into focus for players. What is lost on this community is that outside of the social media space, Sony has amassed a huge segment of the gaming market and thier goal is to keep that market share and grow it. They accomplish this by retaining players in their ecosystem but also building pathways for people to settle into thier platform. Gone are the days of the transient players of consoles...now Sony is positioned for the long term of capturing players over a lifetime rather than for a generation.
When I was watching "The Road to PS5," I was excited to see that home game consoles will finally come with SSDs as standard! Compared to HDDs, the loading speed will be 100 times faster! (Some game developers also commented on Twitter about the expectations and sound of SSDs.) However, even though it has been almost five years since the announcement, only a limited number of first-party developers are still gradually unleashing the capabilities of the PS5. (In particular, Insomniac Games has consistently delivered well-balanced works at a high level.) I understand that game development takes a lot of time and money, but in my opinion, the results are not what we expected. I thought that each first-party would come out with a title that would make us think, "This is the power of the PS5!" a little earlier... What do you think is the reason for the delay? 1. Are they avoiding PS5-specific design in order to smoothly release the PC version after the PS5 version is released? 2. Because the game engine is still from the previous generation or an upgraded version of it? 3. Is it simply taking time?
More and more the reality manifests what PS fans always said about XBox: "Why do I need a console if I can play it on PC." Yes, that's the new truth about PlayStation with more and more games coming to PC. Than you can play PS4, Ps5 and PS6 games - all on PC. Which is great!
Sounds fabulous, we can pay 10 bucks upgrades all over again for games that we already paid 10 bucks for to upgrade. And by that time they probably made it 15 to 20 bucks to upgrade....
Sony can make the PS6, but if they did not want to make a disc drive, and they don’t, then they should licence it to another company. We then might finally be able to play all PS discs on one machine. Let’s hope.
Is the PS3 model CCHA01B01 the only backwards compatible model or does the Metal Gear Solid edition with the huge hard drive also play PS1 & PS2? I can’t seem to find a definitive answer and there’s so much confusing misinformation out there.
CECHAxx/CECHBxx: all have the full PS2 hardware inside. Basically the 60GB and 20GB launch models in the US and Japan. CECHCxx/CECHExx: only have the PS2 GPU which decreases PS2 compatibility. These are the 80GB consoles in the US and Japan or the 60GB models in Europe. The MGS Edition is the 80GB PS3 and thus has PS2 compatibility but downgraded when compared to the launch model.
If ps6 ends up being a digital console only I will not be getting it I will probably keep my ps5 or even consider god for bid stop gaming I think there's nothing better then going to your local game store & looking through the games & picking one takeing home opening the case & putting in your console & there's nothing like that newness smell when open the case for the first time
Even with full local play, they wouldn't completely have to go hardware crazy for the handhelds on a PS6 Ultimate, meaning UMD and cassette trays. They could, if we let ourselves fantasize a bit, allow some sort of heavily encrypted, bespoke, this-specific-machine-only ISO format copying through USB cable from UMD and Vita cassette, then verified with USB every bootup to see that yes, you still own the game and have it in your old device, but we don't need to load the game through optical or cassette over USB, just verify it. The first thing that strikes you might be "what about piracy" but they aren't making any money on those products anyway. They have stopped making them and they have already killed off the stores for those games. Only thing would be if they expect a rise in sales just because of their recent PS6U machine, but I doubt it. Most of all, what stops such a project is the engineering behind it, not piracy. Put short, they don't want to, so they won't.
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So nice to see the og PS3 in such pristine condition, i should have kept mine instead of trading for a Slim back in the day.
U traded ps3 for ps4 slim? Damn if thats true thats such a mistake
@@Deccani probably a ps3 slim
I have mines still 🎉
Honestly unless you modded it with extra ventilation and changed out some of the faulty capacitors it would have died by now. But I loved that design and functionality it has.
Nah no regrets. It would have been very very busy collecting dust. to never be turnrd on again. That's being honest with myself
They seriously need to find a way to bring PS3 compatibility to PS6. My PS3 is well maintained but its still old and these things wont hold out forever
I have a pretty large collection of PS3 I’d love to play on BC
Same. Although last I checked my PS and PS2 both also work last I checked. But I know PS3 has more points of fragility than those do, so I’d really like PS3 backwards compatibility, cause there a few BIG games trapped on it (A final fantasy and a metal gear for example)
That will never happen. At best Sony will just release some PS3 titles on PSN and PS Library.
I mean we’re mostly expressing what we wish would happen, not what we think will, but ok…
@@smeepUCA I'm pretty sure they could have already done it with PS5, I'm not sure why they don't, probably to sell premium memberships
The camera pan to Melissa loooool
I'm confused if was talking about the ps3 or... Oh my
Who and where?
@udaysingh-wr2kw Melissa is the black cat in the intro
🥺 i was Lonely and Depressed 😞 But PlayStation pulled me back to my Life 🥹
Trophy Hunting on PS Vita between my Medical School Classes. Boosting Online Trophies making Life Long Friends from different Countries 😢
Are you kidding me?….
@@BalluTheBoi boosting is an evil act, no wonder you were lonely and depressed to begin with. But hey, playstation got u socialising... even if it was with evil cheaters
As a Plastation fan and owner since the Ps1 if the Ps6 is completely digital, I’ll skip it with no regrets.
Don't tell me you're going to run to PC if PS6 is digital?
@@AnonymousC2218 since I don’t like digitalization then yes. PC Pirating will be my new hobby
Same here.
Sure buddy
@@DeesBees85 what's the point of moving forward if all my games can't come with me?
PS5 will stay in my house for about 5 more years, I still feel like they just started this generation so definitely will postpone PS6 purchase and maybe even wait till PS6 PRO.
Upgrading to the pro, then skipping the 6 for the 6 Pro. Games will be cheaper by then.
Same here, that's partly why I got the PS5 Pro. With 4K being the standard now and PSSR implemented into the PS5 Pro, it's in a sense future proof. Obviously the PS6 will be better, but we're at the point of diminishing returns so how much better it will be is very much a hard sell. Plus there's still so many first party games we don't know about for the next 4 years from Sony
this is the lat console sony will ever release.
@@Arsenolx 4k has never been the standard for consoles, and on top of that, you will be enjoying games in pro mode at 30 fps.
I'm treating consoles now as yearly phone upgrades. Trading my PS5 in for half off the Pro, will most likely be able to do the same come the PS6, etc.
Its definitely gonna be better than the future of Xbox cause the future of xbox as a console looks bleak
I think the Next Xbox, will have a Windows OS installed, and will play both Xbox and PC games on 1 Device.
@@DeadPhoenix86DP not with the way phil spencer is taking xbox he’d rather drop making consoles and have the games be available on everything else. And we thought jim was bad phil is worse
Amen brother
@@DeadPhoenix86DPthats not their plan the plan is to have games on as many platforms as they can and that will hurt xbox as a console sadly
Xbox is irrelevant now. It's all about playstation/Nintendo/Pc
I think it's so lame that PS5 doesn't read CDs, as a physical media collector and music lover it sucks and it just feels so "anti Sony" to do that, since the PS1 Sony had pride in their devices playing all kinds of media plus Sony is also a huge music label that releases CD's by the truckload to this day.
They’ve decided to be more “specialised”
Interestingly the PS2’s selling point was playing blu ray movies
And thr Xbox one failed because it was marketed as a way of watching TV 😂
@@maalikserebryakov *PS3
TBF, it's not their fault. The kind of laser that reads a UHD disc isn't compatible with CDs.
@Cryptic0013 You know how many UHD BD/DVD/CD combo drives are on the market? It most certainly can be done
@@RichardBrady-nz1gv I do not, but I do know it would require an extra laser to be added, which woudl raise the cost-per-unit but offer virtually no benefit to anyone. If you still own CDs, you have a CD/DVD player. Might as well ask why it doesn't play vinyl records, too.
PS6 will probably also follow the original PS3's footsteps in launching with an exorbitant price tag.
Get a good job before then
The price of new powerful tech doesn’t get cheaper
no problem I‘m older now:)
@@jpo3499lmaooooo
@@proggz39Correct! I don’t know why people constantly complain about prices, the more and more we go into the "future" I do not expect anything to get cheaper!
Ryan will one day be sixty and still hoping and wishing for PS3 backwards compatibility. 😂
I moved on from that fantasy years ago; that’s why I own four launch model PS3 consoles.
Same lmao. I’ve accepted that they can’t/won’t. So I just took matters into my into my own hands and just rebought a backwards compatible PS3.
@@boomboominroom Broke my overheating PS3, trying to de-lid it. 😭
Now I'll have to live with the shame and guilt.
@@racky2 it's electronics, everything can be fixed just do it patiently and calmly, i had the same problem with one, it took me a full week to have it working properly, its very frustrating and is designed to never be repaired too, so have that in mind keep working on it
I don't see why it's such a big issue to him seeing as he already has a couple of PS3s. It's not like the younger generation are going to be interested in playing those games from twenty years ago. Ok fine, having faster loading would be nice but it's not that big a deal.
@@cun7us We just want an accessible machine to play our old games without emulation issues, TV connection issues (pre-HDMI) and without defective GPU chips which these launch PS3s are full of.
I don't understand why Sony can't just resell those PS3s on a minor scale for collectors without the defective chips and more storage support. They can sell it at a profit instead of a loss since they won't be able to sell you the software - this way they don't lose money. I'm sure there would be many people (myself included) who would want that.
It’s never really been about the lack of games. Obviously PS5 has many, many games coming out. It’s the time necessary for iteration on ideas that has been dreadful and damaging to my opinion on the brand. Uncharted 2007, Uncharted 2 - 2009, Uncharted 2011. We used to get multiple iterations of a brand new franchise in a single console cycle. Now you are lucky to get one.
But you realize this is an industry wide problem and not just Sony, right?
Takes way more time and money to make triple A games today compared to back then
I agree. Uncharted 1,2 and 3. Black Ops 1 and 2, Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron, Little Big Planet, etc
Before: many trilogies pr generation
Now: Three generations for one game... looking at you GTA V
Yeah, like AC 1, AC 2, AC Brotherhood, AC Revelations, AC 3 and AC Blackflag !!! All on the same console generation!
*Give me discs or give me death*
Problem is, they'll give you discs, but they'll just contain a link to the download, or just part of the game. They'll screw us over whatever they do!
@@lemming9984we sail the seas then ☠️
@@lemming9984PlayStation actually doesn’t do that. Outside of live service games, you can play games from start to finish on PS consoles because they put all the data on disc. You can test this out yourself the next time you get a game on disc.
Give me discs or give me a Pirate with PC
@@MiniRunnera7 just finished downloading god of war ragnarok on pc i need no consoles
It always baffles me that people will for example go spend 2 grand on a foldable phone that they'll use maybe a year or 2. But then also scoff at the price of a console that they'll buy maybe once a decade!? Odd.
Because it's easier to complain about the price of a PS5 Pro than the price of a new phone
Even older phones such as the S7 edge and S8+ can smoothly work modern day tasks/jobs, games etc. Never understood why people even upgrade in 1-2 years. I keep my phones for 5 years atleast. I upgraded to S7 edge to S23 in 2023.
We're four years in and we're already talking more about the next generation console than the PS5 Pro.
It's similar to iPhones. People buy one and immediately start talking about the next version of it. No one enjoys what they already have anymore.
Tbh, majority of the most notable PS3 games are available on PS4/5 via remasters or remakes. The only games I’d really want at this point are Ratchet, Infamous and MGS4
Motorstorm, Resistance and Killzone are glaring at you.
@@antiquecardboardyeah we need all the franchise that are still stuck on ps3
Splinter Cell &
Gran Turismo 6...
@@Meinnamefulthe two stains on ps3 legacy
We need the Infamous games to be remastered!
Quality of life/convenience improvements are the main reason I’d like to see PS3 emulation. I have multiple working PS3s but I don’t feel like having it hooked up to my TV and having to play with a DualShock 3 and use the slow XMB and stuff like that
Upgrading to an SSD dramatically speeds up the XMB.
The caveat to that is, though, that I believe it may be causing compatibility issues for digital PS1 games.
@@dapperfan44interesting. Remember those 12gb super slim PS3 models? I think they were using flash memory or something so faster than all the other HDD models, did it also suffer the digital PS1 compatibility issue you speak of too?
@craigsampson3386 OH! Maybe THAT's the reason why. That's the model I'm using, where I have problems on some PS1 games-mainly Spyro, but the OG discs are perfectly fine. I also have a 60 GB PS3, but I don't use it as much because I modded my PS2.
@@dapperfan44 yeah potentially, it wouldn't get covered alot since it's a relatively rare model. From memory I think you can still add in a HDD in those models if you wanted to if that fixes your problem if that is the cause.
Although people that have installed SSDs into their console i havn't heard any problems before but who knows? Also on that note I'd presume the PS3 would also bottle neck just the same as a PS4 does for SSDs full speed potential, although it's still a big improvement over stock HDDs speeds.
@@craigsampson3386 True that there is a bottleneck, BUT there is still improvement. It's mostly seen with digitally installed items.
It holds true for my aforementioned modded PS2 as well. Games with problematic load times like Crash Wrath and Bully load in mere seconds, compared to how long they take from the disc.
"The big beautiful black sexy machine that I love so much" *camera pans to Melissa*
🤣🤣🤣
Crazy to think that to the new folks backwards compatibility to them means PS6 games down to PS4 but to us older folks it be a dream for PS6 to play all the way from PS6 down to Playstation 1 games…A man can dream.
Another great video Mystic ! And good for you for not backing down when your boy Spawnwave was trying to make you agree that ps5 pro was a bad deal lol
The abandonment of older games is very sad, Sony had the right vision with the early PS3 models but we didn't really care back then when they changed and now it's too late. I know it's very difficult and expensive to build backwards compatibility but in a perfect world games would be available for ever regardless of the system and how old they are at least from the same console manufacturer just like movies and music. Art is for ever and shouldn't be abandoned or out of print
You say that but remember how crushed they were at the start of that console war. Had they stuck with that vision they might be in the place of strength in the industry they are now. The fact is backwards compatibility is both an expensive and a niche desire. Those two don’t add up to profitability. If Sony were a charity or interested only in being a niche offering for hobbyists, then that vision might make sense.
The only reason backwards compatibility came back somewhat with this generation is because it’s cheap when the architecture is so similar. Based on that Ryan’s right that IF PS6 has a disc drive I could see it being compatible down to PS4. However that’s a huge IF. If their’s a disc drive at all on PS6, it will be an extra accessory and likely not even lock into the console like the latest PS5s do. I’m not expecting to see one at all, that way I’ll be happy if they surprise me.
As long as they continue to invest in physical media and VR, I'll be happy.
Hopefully if Sony chooses to port PS3 games to PS5, they focus on their first and second party exclusives as the vast majority of great third party games from the seventh generation (barring a few holdouts like Eternal Sonata), are already playable on current generation hardware.
So from Sony, I hope they port the following-
Heavenly Sword
Infamous 1&2
Resistance trilogy
Ratchet and Clank Future trilogy
LittleBigPlanet 1&2
3D Dot Game Heroes
Killzone Trilogy
Motorstorm
Puppeteer
PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale
Just to name a few lol.
Out of my Ps3, Ps4, and Ps5 my favorite is the Ps4. I prefer the whole software experience with the happy home music and custom themes. All though i can play all my Ps4 games on my Ps5 and visa versa its just not the same.
I think the problem with the Ps5 isn’t a lack of games, I mean last week alone we got Metaphor, Silent Hill 2 and Sparking Zero, but it’s the amount of Ps5 EXCLUSIVE games. The Wikipedia page for the Ps5 only has 22 exclusive games, and that’s including games that haven’t even released yet or are for the PSVR2 which is its own thing. I think Sony’s in a weird situation where they could either go Nintendo’s direction and focus on software exclusively for their hardware or go Xbox’s route and focus on making software for as many different devices as possible. Sony seems to be going in the latter direction
"Sony seems to be going in the latter direction." So, they have chosen death.
I agree with you. But PS exclusivity is all they had going for them. They are going to get battered if they try to compete with the entire overcrowded market with $300 million dollar projects (as is already happening). Sony has lost its way.
Most exclusives Sony had throughout the years were third party anyway. People keep saying the PS4 had so many more games, but they neglect to mention that Nier Automata, the Yakuza franchise, Ni No Kuni 2, and Persona 5 were all part of the exclusive lineup. You can still play the newest iterations of these properties on PS5, but they aren't exclusive anymore. It is not like Yakuza 0 needed the POWER OF THE PS4 in order for the game to run. The Switch proves that quite a few of these 8th generation games did not really use the power of any console. Nier Automata, Ni No Kuni 2, No Man's Sky, Doom 2016, and Wolfenstein 2 proved that a lot of the then "current generation" titles might have been able to run on 7th generation systems. Tales of Beseria had a PS3 version in Japan but only a PS4 version in the West. The majority of third party exclusive software on PS4 could have been done on various other systems. People hold onto exclusives as if they are still unique pieces of software that only one system can pull off. The days of unique hardware are over. Exclusives are just properties own by a console manufacturer or a deal made with a third party. 99% of the software out there can be played on almost any device. "There are no exclusives out for my preferred piece of metal and plastic, so now I have wasted my money." "I guess I can buy another piece of metal and plastic for the same price or more than I already paid." It is not like there are various options out on the market. There are only four places to go, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, or PC. PC has access to a lot, but you could need to configure your settings before playing a game properly. Nintendo doesn't get some games the other companies do. Xbox is also on PC. Sony is doing the traditional console approach.
Love the cat in the intro 😅💙
I’d pay more money for a PS6 Pro that has all chip sets from PS2/3.
My old phat PS3 80GB BC is a rock. Can’t get it working.
That’s exactly my setup…PS3 right next to PS5.
Same.
Same
Same
Times and financial moments is of the essence. When I got into PS4, 5 years later after all the amazing games that we had throughout that gen I knew that If PS5 were to force me to let go of all that I wouldn't have got into PS5. I think I'm not alone in this and SONY is well aware of that.
Yes. But we need the ports of many PS Vita games into PS6.
Reforge Gaming did a video about the recent PS4 remasters, and one point he made was that the die-hard, longstanding PlayStation fans (the ones who played on PS1, PS2 and the like, maybe PS3 too) are not the only customers in the PS5 ecosystem. That there are millions of people who have a PS5, but didn't have a PS4, and that Sony is catering to those people too with releases like Horizon Zero Dawn remastered and others.
The thing is that the PS5 already plays all PS4 games via BC. New users could still play them just fine without remasters. Hell, some of the games even ALREADY HAD PS5 ENCHANCEMENTS!!!!
@@vini_inestimavel I highly recommend you go watch that video, as another point RG made was that Sony wants to raise the graphical ceiling for all their major ops as much as possible
@@unicorntomboy9736HZD is already graphically pleasing game that looks better than most PS5 games we've seen. On top of the fact of PS5 being BC theres no good reason for them to remake it besides the fact of them being money hungry.
@@StepBackWillexactly!
@@StepBackWill Regarding Horizon Zero Dawn, they are not remaking the game, it is a remaster, strictly speaking. I cannot imagine it takes that much resources to develop it, not cost that much for Sony. I doubt it's taking away resources from Horizon 3, or whatever else Guerilla Games is working on, nor are the core development team doing it, it's probably a smaller off-shoot team.
I would pay extra to have full backwards compatibility with games from PSone, PS2, PS3, PS4, PS5, PSP and PS Vita on the PS6. It's a feature that is very important to me.
At most it seems an emulator inside the ps6 or just remastering them and porting them over, there’s a reason why with those god of war remasters the psp games don’t get included
I hope they can do a proper full backwards compatibility
My only hope is by the time PS6 is our we have hundreds of classic games on BC
They are becoming more like phones 📱
They need to keep disks for the future consolez
2:58 Instead of putting UMD slot in a home console, Sony can save that separately for a the ultimate sony handheld (PSP + Vita back compat). Like Ryan said, likely never going to. happen lol. Maybe there'll be a PSP classic in the future lol.
it would be great if the PS6 could emulate PS1-PS5 games, but I don't think that is happening...
ps4 and ps5 will prob be running native on the ps6
Emulation for PS4 and 5 is unnecessary and would be laggy and that shouldnt be a problem as long as it backwards compatible with PS5 and PS4 nativly. However For the ps1-ps3 emulation will absolutely be needed as those have a very different architecture then x86 especially PS3 cell processor that was a pain for devs to code on and because of that , it's cell chip is also a pain to emulate PS3
I fully expect the PS6 to be the same as the Pro, disc drive as an optional extra only then the PS7 will be digital only
That makes no sense, the more gens pass with discs on, the harder it will be to force a change, what would they tell to the consumers? “Yeah fu buy 3 gens of your games digital now”
What does make sense is increasing the price of physical, to justify its existence, like that attachable disc drive and maybe more expensive discs than digital
If they drop the disc drive, I'm out of PlayStation forever
@@joefawley9264where will we fo
@@joefawley9264 Same
In order to fix Playstation Sony should really do these easy steps:
1-Sell consoles at a loss like they always did.
2-Make profit with games and accesories
2.5-Sony should starting outsorurcing small budget games like Nintendo does to feed the console's library, this cicle of waiting 2 years for a mayor Playstation Studios game is insane.
3-Dont get rid of physical media and ALWAYS make an option wether you like phisical or digital only, dont force digital into anything.
4-Make a streaming service like Game pass and include it on Extra and premium, Paying for only to play online is BS, at least make the price worth it.
5- Make a PS5 patch to Bloodborne.
It’s easy for you to tell a company to sell at a lost and lose billions also the ps5 was sold at a lost
Sony is doing extraordinary things for gamers that nobody else is doing, just accept sony as they want, and you'll get quality
@Steelix371 its easy to say cuz its worked for 5 generations of their consoles already. Theyre struggling now because of their bad strategy in releasing games. A customer shouldnt need to pay more for their mistakes
@@Deccani😂😂😂😂
Your camera has developed a hot pixel :P You can see it on the background of the black table. I thought it was my monitor!
Other than that, the video has inspired me to try and get a working back-compat PS3. I had one back in the day, but I used to sell all of my consoles before the PS4. Ironically the PSP and Vita are the only older consoles I kept!
you have sharp eye wow i was trying to figure out why it kept appearing and disappearing but it was his cam!
@@EUROCORP2027 It happened to one of my own cameras a few years back, so now I'm extra sensitive to this 🤣
I wish devs would just pay a little more for a life time use of licensing for stuff like music in their games, so that they don't have to patch it out years later or delist old games forsale.
The way I see things, the console market is going to end up like the smartphone market. There will be a new current model that will cost a bomb (PS5 pro, the PS6 and so forth) and that will be the more cutting edge stuff, but there will always be a cheaper alternative in the form of previous gen consoles that can still do a lot of the same stuff - all while the software will remain backwards compatible.
Since the PS4 has a similar architecture to current gen games, and can still run most of them - then why not keep it around for the PS6 generation? Can imagine it would play less games but it would still sell well to casual audiences.
I’m typing this on an iPhone XR, a phone which is still supported, and still does a lot of the same stuff that the latest model can do - albeit with a few less pixels on the camera.
The future of Playstation is extremely bright. The games they released this year is proof enough. They said this year was the "Year of Xbox Games" and an OFF YEAR for Playstation software...
And now that we're almost in November... it's kind of funny how well THAT take aged.
Supporting old games is contrary to their goal of keeping us spending. If we are busy with old games we are not buying new games.
50/50
Are Steam players actually playing their library? NOPE.
People aren’t purely logical. And from what I’ve seen Blockbuster games sell regardless if they are loved by the public.
True. Backwards compatibility is a goodwill feature aimed at enthusiasts. Most consumers couldn't care less
More accurately if we can play our older games then they can’t resell them for $70
@@Embrace_the_darkness what evidence do you have that goodwill is a thing for them?
@@Embrace_the_darkness look at what that goodwill got Xbox last generation for supporting Xbox 360 games. They had less money left to make new games. That's evidence that backwards compatibility is wasting money. Add on top of that gamers are not willing to pay more for games.
The ps6 won’t have a disc drive. At least you’re finally opening up to the idea that that is a possibility, I remember you used to be confident that it will.
I'm guessing they will sell an optional disc drive like how the slim has. But with only 20% of game sales being physical, they probably won't bother even making one for the ps7.
@@mbern4530 I don’t think they will, as that 20% number is only getting lower, it’s eventually no longer going to make business sense to make one. I don’t think they will wait for ps7 to go all digital.
If the numbers keep going down that is a real possibility, the question is how low does it have to get before they cut it off?
Even at 10% that would be over 10 million units at PS4 sales numbers, but maybe at 5% they just don't bother?
It will be interesting to see what the numbers look like in the next few years because digital sales went from 53% in 2019 to 80% in 2024.
@@mbern4530 I think they’ll cut it off sooner rather than later, as every single physical software sale is less profitable than if a digital sale took its place. Most people would buy digital if the physical option were no longer there, and that’s not even factoring in used copies. Publishers are only paid for the initial sale; every used sale is worth $0.
All i know is that I’m extremely dissatisfied with Ps5’s first party output this generation. Third party have been carrying this generation
Ikr not like we lost almost two years to 🦠that was just a figment of our imagination….look at it as we started in 2022 since we pretty much did and it’ll help those ill feelings.
As always, that has been every generation, except ps3 where nobody wanted to make games for it
@@Eclipsed972 same goes for psvr2. Relying hard on 3rd party.
@@Raigeki-SC 😂😂😂you should really google a list or something…their competitor has a fraction of what Sony has released….
@@reelroyalevizion800 yeah I know this year Sony has been on fire despite what everybody else says, 2024 has been a far far better year than 2023 for the PS5, so many great games
But people have been talking nonsense about owned games and what not, that doesn’t matter to people at all
People just want to have good games available to play
A PlayStation mega console would be the dream for sure.
You can easily stay on PS5/PS5 PRO for additional 4+- years (~8 years total!), because majority of the games will be crossgen as it happened with PS4->PS5. And it'll be happening even MORE because game dev cycles getting bigger and bigger, 5-6 years to produce one big game. By that time you can also jump straight to PS6 PRO which will be released around that time frame. Additionaly, you can't turn much profit with new installbase, consisted of 5-10 million users. Because main revenue is made during the time when game is selling at full price.
And, to be honest, looking at the diminishing returns of nowadays graphics and stuff, you don't lose much. Devs should concentrate on making an interesting GAMEplay first and foremost, rather than graphics. But I understand that it's easier for publishers to sell games to masses this way, which is sad reality we are living in. I think, speaking of a visual aspect of the videogames, the main thing here is art style. Great art style is the king, it can make game amazing even with the lack of tech complexity and budget.
I haven't used my original PS3 in years and two weeks ago I turned it on to update it and I get an unwanted surprise. YLOD. 😢
God damn what a bummer
@@Embrace_the_darkness
Yes. Worked perfectly fine before. Probably not using it for 10 years was the problem.
I'm relieved to know buying a PS5 Slim wasn't a waste.
The future of PlayStation is bright for Sony, not their costumers.
There is no reason the PS5 can't handle running PS3 - I am aware of the Cell Processor - Which is why Sony needs to use an emulator that runs on X86 hardware such as RPCS3 - the ps5 hardware should be able to run that
Yes, the cell
@@Embrace_the_darkness PS5 specs can't run something like rpcs3?
@@matcam89 Yes, they cannot, since CELL was a completely different design architecture and games needed to be specifically ported for very power for that time CELL processor. Current consoles use x86 processors, while CELL was using proprietary architecture
@@matcam89 I guess it's technically possible but the effort wouldn't be profitable and that's all Sony cares about
@@usr44365 Yes i understand the Cell thats why you build an emulator like RPCS3 which the PS5 should be able to run
I seriously need to find a nice ps3 fat b/c because that set is too clean!!
Unfortunately I think physical media is going away, specifically for PlayStation and Xbox. At that point I will own neither, and keep my old consoles and just play on Nintendo and PC.
7th gen was the best PS3 the goat
6th gen had the widest variety of consoles (Dreamcast PS2 Xbox Gamecube GBA PSP) as well as games that we wont see ever again
Corporate greed took over during PS3/360 (im 100% guilty here as well but buying all the dlc$ for lots of games) led to the half a$$ed, day one patch/updates garbage we have now
I’ve been playing PS3 over a decade, PS4 handful of years.. just still waiting for the actual games that make me say yeah! I need to buy a PS5 now.. GTA 6 only game that has my interest
7th Gen was a terrible generation for Japanese games.
@@aceassn716gaming died after that generation. And we all thought it was just going to get better and better but unfortunately we were wrong…
@@tomasgomez9925 I think we were all quite naive. I remember when I got my PS2 games like GTA SA, Burnout 3, Silent Hill 2, Jak, etc I just thought to my self: "this is mind blowing, I can't wait to see what the future brings"... my younger self would have been massively disappointed.
I know good games still come out like Astro Bot but it's rare now and most of them lack so much creativity it's insane... I won't even talk about the remakes because it kind of shows the absolute state of industry bare naked.
@@aceassn716PSP is 7th Gen.
3:39 Seeing a Typhlosion in the background right after watching a video about the Pokemon leaks. 😂😂😂😂
I love me a big beautiful console...I'll never abbreviate my feelings though.
Let’s say Sony puts out the PS6 & PS6 Pro at the same time, what would the prices be?
Backwards compatibility is a feature that should’ve been in the base PS5, and added sometime into the PS4’s lifecycle. There’s no excuse for the feature’s exclusion since hobbyists in their spare time were able to get PS3 emulation working on PC, and restored online functionality/added it to some games that didn’t have it before (I’ve been playing Resistance, the older Ratchet and Clanks, and a few others through RPCS3 and having a blast. Such a shame Sony abandoned so many of their old IPs). Certain Nintendo systems are backwards compatible, the current Xbox models are backwards compatible with a good chunk of the library (if you pay $20 for dev mode you can install emulators going up to the Wii/PS2 on your device, and load up a bunch of ROMs. If you want a great emulation machine I’d suggest buying a used Series S. I’ve heard talks about people being able to port over RPCS3, but haven’t seen anything concrete), and the original PS3 was backwards compatible with PS1/2 games.
agreed.
Hey bud idk if you know this but PS3 emulation or anything PS3 related is a pain to pull off because of it's very very weird cell processor that was a pain for devs to code for as well
If this is not possible then why won't sony just not do the same 6 games over and over again and revive some of their old pre ps4 ips?
@kirby21-xz4rx In the past PS3 emulation was garbage because of the cell processing. Now aside from a few audio/visual glitches and slowdown in a few areas it’s really good. The games play super well. You can also use any controller with it, and I recently bought a PS5 controller for a more “authentic” experience, and because games like Killzone 2 have mandatory motion controls that can prevent you from beating the game (still need to first finish the Resistance trilogy. Then I’ll move onto Killzone). This is all done by people unaffiliated with Sony who are working for free (there’s definitely people who get money through Patreon, and I have no issues with them doing that as long as they aren’t hiding builds/features behind a paywall).
What Sony should do is either work with the community to get the emulator working on PS4/5 (in dev mode you can add emulators to the Series X/S. As long as Sony’s OS for PS4/5 is t something really weird it should be possible to get emulators running on their hardware. Hopefully, people who jailbreak their consoles will be able to figure that out). Or at the very least just make collections of their old games ported to PS4/5 and PC, like the PS2 collections that were made for PS3.
@@shreksnow1918yep even the steam deck can run some ps3 games fine at this point not all but some
The problem with the slow output for games, is not about the number of games, but particular games that we want or games from particular studios that we want are taking too long. In other words, it is about our favourite games or game studios. The over ten year wait between The Elder Scrolls and Fallout games for example. Or the 8-10 years between Ratchet and Clank games.
Bro now after u talked about this PS3 the prices went up and I was thinking of buy one and was waiting for prices to decrease.
1) PS3 SOC, not needed. One more hardware generation and it should be stupid easy to emulate a PS3 compared to 13 years ago. They are certainly getting there.
2) CD laser is a myth. They could easily read a CD in the PS5 if they just refocused the lens and laser. Blue light is a narrower beam, but that doesn't mean that it can't fit the grooves of a wider red beam of DVD or CD. Which is exactly what it is doing now for modern DVD playback. With a bit of work they could do the same for UMD. I wouldn't mind if the UMD drive was an accessory we hooked up to a USB port on a PS6/7/X Anniversary Edition. So the whole library could be played.
I would be fine with 6 not being physical back compat if we finally moved to something like thumb drives; just something that has MORE storage than blu rays so the entire game fits & further ensures game ownership. Plus with something like thumb drives they can have multiple ports & you could have multiple games plugged in at once for more convenience as well.
I mean… if they can integrate some FPUs in the CPU architecture, they could practically natively support PS3 Cell processor reliant games. The only thing that would be necessary aside from the necessary microcode to display graphics correctly, is to make sure that the lasers have the ability to read all the different color discs. I think that with Vita and PSP UMD support, the physical support would be unlikely to see the light of day, but emulation via a service like Nintendo’s Virtual console, tied into PS Plus, would be great!
I have been dreaming of a PlayStation that is just fully backwards compatible with all gens
PS3 is still the best
Instead of a Cell processor they just need a Field Programmable Gate Array processor (FPGA). That alone could cover old gen consoles precisely and accurately.
Future of Playstation might be worse than we think. Thibgs that held me to playstations were 1. Physical games 2. Exclusivity 3. Easy Setup 4. Cheaper machine
Ps6 is likely to have disc drive but its doubtful how much the physical media will be suppoted, we have already seen 2 goty contender baulders gate and alan wake gave up on physical games at start. This might be beginning of the end.
Exclusivity does not have a place in future gaming specially when console will cost 700 usd and games will cost 70. We already seeing the end of exclusivity.
Gone are the days you plug console and play. Now you have to set the stand up, find turorials to install ssd, attach disc drives. Consoles are couple of steps away from being a branded subsidized pc.
Lastly cheaper machine is no longer a trend. Subsidized consoles are thing of past. 700 usd for a ps5 pro which plays 1440p games natively and uses upscaling for 4k. We can actually set up a gaming pc with similar specs in just a little more. That give us power of using pc in other ways, cheaper games, moding, doing pc specific work, playing xbox and pc exclusive games, better upgrade path, free multiplayer etc etc.
I had every playstation ps1 to 5 but already thinking about getting a gaming pc now.
Get that gaming PC man, will be the best gaming decision you'll ever make. I ditched my PS5 2 months ago and went full PC after years of being on the fence and I have 0 regrets.
Just dont think about it,do it,switched too my ps5 collects dust now,im tired of sony....its just way better using a pc,the freedom on it.
yea I can wait a couple years to get a PS6 if it's $1000 my PS5 Pro will satisfy me for a long while
Optical discs are going away.
For music, movies, and computer software they’re already obsolescent due to the mass market preferring streaming or downloading music, movies, software etc.
That means the drives and disc manufacturing is going to become more expensive.
Discs are increasingly just tradable licences now as games launch with huge day one patches, or are at least significantly improved within the first few months. And every bought used disc is zero money for the developer or platform holder, so it’s inevitable that PlayStation and everyone else will eventually migrate to digital only.
There’s no custom theme for home ps5 after 4 years old. Bright future baby
Not needed is it
Huh? What does having a theme have to do with the future of a console? Do you really look at that home screen for that long that you can't stand the standard background anymore?
U watch theme for 5 seconds before opening a game no point of theme
"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
Tbh I got tired of changing my theme on ps4 this why I love ps3 and ps5 UI more than ps4 they change the background and music depending on the game
PS6 needs to play CDs, DVDs and Blu rays. A cell SOC isn’t necessary if they have good software emulation. I agree that the PS6’s cpu will probably be powerful enough to emulate the cell. I just want to pop in my metal gear collection and mgs4 disc into the ps6 and play those games at higher res and 60fps
The most realistic solution is to compile the EXE files of the original games and figure out a way to rewrite them for ps6.
A nice next move would be PS6 is comes out as slim however we have the option of buying tier drives that include Blu-ray/DVD, then highest tier includes CD for emulating most PlayStation library 👍👍
If consoles are going to become all digital, it's crucial going forward that they be backwards compatible and essentially PCs. I'm not going to spend $1000 of dollars on digital games only to get to play and have access to them on that specific system. There's no excuse to simply just consider them "PlayStation" games and they work on all models. That's the big benefit to PC to me. I can play games from the 80s, 90s and the future with my current build. It's all one platform. The lines are beginning to blur and digital really has hurt consoles in a lot of ways.
I got an idea since Sony likes to drop multiple versions of a console.
PlayStation 6 - Plays PlayStation 6,5,4 games. No disc drive. $800
PlayStation 6 Elite - Plays PlayStation 6,5,4,3,2,1 games, Blu-ray, DVD, CDs. $1000
I would never pay a G for a Playstation.
The discussion I’m reading here is anything but optimistic.
My optimism is that PS4 remains a “forever baseline” and that library doesn’t go away.
The way thinks are going, PS6 will be announced and 40%+ of PS users will still be on PS4.
I love my PS3 but I went full PC at the end of the PS4's cycle and haven't looked back since, got sick and tired of being nickel and dimed by Sony. My generations Sony doesn't exist anymore and that's a fact plain and simple, Sony has turned into a overly greedy game company. With what I can do with my PC blows consoles out to the wind. Having to pay $24 a month to barely get PS1 games on the PS5 compared to simply emulating them on PC is unreal. Way too much fanboying and D riding is what keeps Sony propped up. Hey I used to be one of those people until I woke up and realized there is better.....
I just wish when PS6 releases, the UI won't start from scratch again.
i would absolutely buy a console that plays every playstation disc game
If they could make backwards compatible with physical and digital ill buy a console again because I love playing my games from the past
After this generation, I feel I'm done with gaming. I started with Intellivision, and enjoyed every advance with every new generation. My PS5 is largely unused, and I can't see things improving with games that appeal to me in the next gen. I never do GAAS, anything Woke, remakes/remasters or games that are just another copy of the previous one. It was good while it lasted.
console fans: oi boi oi boi i cant wait to trash 800 bucks for the ps5 pro man omg im wet
PC master race enjoyer: Ah yes, i will just get a 4090 and skip another 3 generations of consoles, which is the same price as this piece of sh
Master race lol
Playstation inferior superior supremacy etc to reconqure the GLOBALISM az usual.
Playstation brand's strong domaince etc & influencer every where's too.
0:07 shout out to my beautiful european CECH-C
And you never know, perhaps PS6 will play PS3…2 and 1 as well, just add some AI machine learning to allow PS3games to look closer to PS4… I can hope.
Thats a brilliant, ingenious idea
Ai developments very well could modify executable code directly
Gaming is about to become a streaming service. You will need a subscription to play your games in the next 5 to 10 years.
Price to performance has a lot of variables. Can definitely build a 700-800 pc that surpasses the pro. If we’re taking price to performance you gotta factor in paying for online on console
I have both ps5 and xbox. Honestly the fact that I can put ANY xbox game disc and it works, is crazy. Don't even get me started with the speed cap that sony puts on the PS. But I've been PS all my life so I rather have the best of both worlds 😅😂
The problem with the commentary on consoles, specifically the PS consoles is that there is a increase in the effort to find fault in the console model as a way to justify purchases made for PC or other platforms. Sony and PS have been really smart with thier platform moves and is really playing 4d chess with the social media space when it comes to how they've positioned the console and the brand.
As it stands, the PS5 and PS5 pro represent the best for price to performance in the mid range segment of the hardware spectrum. What this has done is place Sony and PS brand as the midpoint of the gaming heirachy. If Nintendo is seen as the gateway into gaming, then PS is the next logical evolution of that before one delves into the deep waters of high end PC gaming.
What Sony has done over the last 2 generations is create an insular layer of sticky products and services that are designed to keep players in thier ecosystem. Prior to this generation of consoles players might look to PC toward mid range hardware as a way to upgrade thier experience and this generation that is no longer necessary....now if you own a base PS5, becuase of digital libraries and the optional disk drive....a PS5 pro is gonna to vastly beat out any mid tier PC on price to performance, PSVR2 makes it so that you don't ever need to leave the platform for VR except for platform specific exclusive games (which are less prevelant than PSVR2 exclusives), and the Portal satisfies the desire for a handheld without the falling into the trap of more expensive niche hardware and reduced performance in games being that most expect to play thier existing libraries instead of dedicated handheld games. Its all strategically placed to keep players in the PS ecosystem as there are very few reasons to advance beyond what PS offers even if their overall vision has yet to come into focus for players.
What is lost on this community is that outside of the social media space, Sony has amassed a huge segment of the gaming market and thier goal is to keep that market share and grow it. They accomplish this by retaining players in their ecosystem but also building pathways for people to settle into thier platform. Gone are the days of the transient players of consoles...now Sony is positioned for the long term of capturing players over a lifetime rather than for a generation.
When I was watching "The Road to PS5," I was excited to see that home game consoles will finally come with SSDs as standard! Compared to HDDs, the loading speed will be 100 times faster! (Some game developers also commented on Twitter about the expectations and sound of SSDs.)
However, even though it has been almost five years since the announcement, only a limited number of first-party developers are still gradually unleashing the capabilities of the PS5. (In particular, Insomniac Games has consistently delivered well-balanced works at a high level.)
I understand that game development takes a lot of time and money, but in my opinion, the results are not what we expected.
I thought that each first-party would come out with a title that would make us think, "This is the power of the PS5!" a little earlier...
What do you think is the reason for the delay?
1. Are they avoiding PS5-specific design in order to smoothly release the PC version after the PS5 version is released?
2. Because the game engine is still from the previous generation or an upgraded version of it?
3. Is it simply taking time?
More and more the reality manifests what PS fans always said about XBox: "Why do I need a console if I can play it on PC."
Yes, that's the new truth about PlayStation with more and more games coming to PC. Than you can play PS4, Ps5 and PS6 games - all on PC. Which is great!
Sounds fabulous, we can pay 10 bucks upgrades all over again for games that we already paid 10 bucks for to upgrade.
And by that time they probably made it 15 to 20 bucks to upgrade....
Sony can make the PS6, but if they did not want to make a disc drive, and they don’t, then they should licence it to another company. We then might finally be able to play all PS discs on one machine. Let’s hope.
Is the PS3 model CCHA01B01 the only backwards compatible model or does the Metal Gear Solid edition with the huge hard drive also play PS1 & PS2? I can’t seem to find a definitive answer and there’s so much confusing misinformation out there.
CECHAxx/CECHBxx: all have the full PS2 hardware inside. Basically the 60GB and 20GB launch models in the US and Japan.
CECHCxx/CECHExx: only have the PS2 GPU which decreases PS2 compatibility. These are the 80GB consoles in the US and Japan or the 60GB models in Europe.
The MGS Edition is the 80GB PS3 and thus has PS2 compatibility but downgraded when compared to the launch model.
@@Manic_Panic thank you so much 🙏
If ps6 ends up being a digital console only I will not be getting it I will probably keep my ps5 or even consider god for bid stop gaming I think there's nothing better then going to your local game store & looking through the games & picking one takeing home opening the case & putting in your console & there's nothing like that newness smell when open the case for the first time
Even with full local play, they wouldn't completely have to go hardware crazy for the handhelds on a PS6 Ultimate, meaning UMD and cassette trays. They could, if we let ourselves fantasize a bit, allow some sort of heavily encrypted, bespoke, this-specific-machine-only ISO format copying through USB cable from UMD and Vita cassette, then verified with USB every bootup to see that yes, you still own the game and have it in your old device, but we don't need to load the game through optical or cassette over USB, just verify it.
The first thing that strikes you might be "what about piracy" but they aren't making any money on those products anyway. They have stopped making them and they have already killed off the stores for those games. Only thing would be if they expect a rise in sales just because of their recent PS6U machine, but I doubt it.
Most of all, what stops such a project is the engineering behind it, not piracy. Put short, they don't want to, so they won't.
Well my expectations couldn't get much lower, so you might be right.
PC gamers are very insecure about the ps5 pro, coping very hard, hyperventilating into brown paper bags
as they sit in their uncomfortable gaming chairs and circlejerk with their reddit friends about how cool PC gaming is
@@maalikserebryakov sitting forward in those chairs because they are using small ass 1080p monitors hahaa
10:14 Not just PS4 and PS5, EVERYTHING!!!!!
I'm still waiting on The Legend of Dragoon to come back😭