Glad you're making these notches seem simple. They aren't complicated, but there are some folks who want to make it out that you need so much specialist equipment just to make a notch for a log cabin.
Dovetail is a pretty genius joint. Most people think it's of British origin, but it is of Egyptian, I believe. Never heard of the diamond joint, pretty cool.
No expert here but enjoyed video. A few years ago I built raised beds out of white oak. I dovetail them with chain saw. It turned out pretty good. Still have them.
Thanks for the great lesson on the log notches cut for building log structures. Great information to save trouble with the corners rotting. Stay safe and keep up the fun you share with all of us. Fred.
Yeah those half dovetails are still holding up on my farm after a hundred years. I really like the full scribed method now. It takes a little more cutting but then there is no chinking to do afterwards. Once you get the hang of it after a couple practice logs, it can go pretty quick really. We split the first log in half for the bottom log here.
Hey Andrew, if possible, please send a few photos of your work to pamac@farmhandscompanion.com; I'd love to feature the photos (with your permission, of course) on my new Viewer Projects Show coming up in 2024
im in north alabama an ive never seen an old building with a square or saddle notch so you may be on to something lol only exception is my log shed where i used saddle notches. and that ending..... never wouldve "saw" it coming
Howdy Paw- good explanation on the notches. The Chism House I restored several years ago had the square notch, or gravity notch ( since it doesn’t lock). I put lag bolts in the corners to keep it locked together. My favorite notch to cut is the half dovetail. The project l just finished has the half dovetails. I’ve cut a lot of full compound dovetail notches but they were very rare to be seen in the south. Hope you are doing well. Still looking for a chance to get down your way. God bless
Ive noticed that dovetail notches seem to be the dominant notch used in Appalachia. I've seen the saddle notch and the swedish cope alot in much newer cabins and houses, but in the old cabins with hewn logs, they always seem to be either single or double dovetail notched. Some of the newer kit cabins arent even notched, they are whats called butt and pass. My friend built a log house, and when the trimmed the stick outs, on the corner of the house nearest the driveway, they left one of the logs sticking out about 3' under the porch. His kids sit there in the mornings waiting on the school bus.
G'day Pa 😁 Love your channel. I use a lot of older or very old tools and 'things' rather than a lot of highly technical 'modern' tools. Can you please show the how of the diamond notch in more close detail? What's going on with the underside? Can you show the dovetail in more detail, especially showing up close the detail too please? These are the two notches I am wanting to use the most for the main building projects to be started soon. I completely understand about the saw hitting you on the head!!! 😵😵💫🥴😅 I really understand! I've had several things do this, including a concrete brick off a roof! Yes, that hurt 😵💫, but I'm still here. 🙃 Thanks, from Australia 🇭🇲🦘🦘🙏🦘🦘🇭🇲
For people who want a bit more strength than the interlocking notches can give but who don't necessarily have the carpentry skills,you can drill a vertical hole through 2 logs at a time as you assemble and drive in a square peg then cut it off flush before going on to the next layer where you drill the hole in a different location.
All of the old log buildings I remember seeing around where I’ve lived in KY and TN, were square logs. Were they more common, or have I just managed to miss all the old round log structures?❤️🐝🤗
Might be a dumb question but I just moved to a wooded area.... I have found plenty of fallen trees but many have termites... I feel like these logs could have been used in the old days, and I wouldn't mind trying to make a shed, but were there tricks to cure the infested logs? Or do you have to cut a fresh tree?
Back in the day the plentiful abundance of trees didn't warrant tryin' to save infested logs. I used rotten logs to build a small log chicken house (episode 10) only to show I only needed it to last as long as I needed it (I know that sounds convoluted). It really depends on how much use you want to get out of the building versus how much trouble it takes to build it.
Glad you're making these notches seem simple. They aren't complicated, but there are some folks who want to make it out that you need so much specialist equipment just to make a notch for a log cabin.
Dovetail is a pretty genius joint. Most people think it's of British origin, but it is of Egyptian, I believe. Never heard of the diamond joint, pretty cool.
Old school “tech” that still works today!
No expert here but enjoyed video. A few years ago I built raised beds out of white oak. I dovetail them with chain saw. It turned out pretty good. Still have them.
Great application, atexinc!
Can you do a video on natural fertilizer for the garden and how you make it?
Great video, thank you for making these!
Thanks for the great lesson on the log notches cut for building log structures. Great information to save trouble with the corners rotting. Stay safe and keep up the fun you share with all of us. Fred.
Yeah those half dovetails are still holding up on my farm after a hundred years. I really like the full scribed method now. It takes a little more cutting but then there is no chinking to do afterwards. Once you get the hang of it after a couple practice logs, it can go pretty quick really. We split the first log in half for the bottom log here.
I'm building a log cabin of my own and I'm using the diamond notches. It has worked great for me.
Hey Andrew, if possible, please send a few photos of your work to pamac@farmhandscompanion.com; I'd love to feature the photos (with your permission, of course) on my new Viewer Projects Show coming up in 2024
im in north alabama an ive never seen an old building with a square or saddle notch so you may be on to something lol only exception is my log shed where i used saddle notches. and that ending..... never wouldve "saw" it coming
Well, I sure didn't.
Howdy Paw- good explanation on the notches. The Chism House I restored several years ago had the square notch, or gravity notch ( since it doesn’t lock). I put lag bolts in the corners to keep it locked together. My favorite notch to cut is the half dovetail. The project l just finished has the half dovetails. I’ve cut a lot of full compound dovetail notches but they were very rare to be seen in the south. Hope you are doing well. Still looking for a chance to get down your way. God bless
Great point on the lag bolts, or even wood pegs would work.
Sure hope you can make it over this summer. We got things to talk about!
Note on the example of halved trees on opposing walls, that would be to keep the height of opposing walls the same, I think.
Ive noticed that dovetail notches seem to be the dominant notch used in Appalachia. I've seen the saddle notch and the swedish cope alot in much newer cabins and houses, but in the old cabins with hewn logs, they always seem to be either single or double dovetail notched. Some of the newer kit cabins arent even notched, they are whats called butt and pass. My friend built a log house, and when the trimmed the stick outs, on the corner of the house nearest the driveway, they left one of the logs sticking out about 3' under the porch. His kids sit there in the mornings waiting on the school bus.
Thank you for telling us why the saddle notch goes on top of the round log. I was wondering that and you answered the question two seconds later. 🙂
you betcha, fpassow1
Imagine my surprise when I heard my name! One of my all time favorite channels. Thanks Pa Mac.
Thank YOU, Andrew.
My favorite yt channel! Thanks Pa Mac, here's to a fruitful year!
Excellent tutorial Pa. Grandpa used the diamond notch on his tobacco barns.
Yep, I've seen a lot of 'em further back eastward
G'day Pa 😁 Love your channel. I use a lot of older or very old tools and 'things' rather than a lot of highly technical 'modern' tools.
Can you please show the how of the diamond notch in more close detail? What's going on with the underside?
Can you show the dovetail in more detail, especially showing up close the detail too please?
These are the two notches I am wanting to use the most for the main building projects to be started soon.
I completely understand about the saw hitting you on the head!!! 😵😵💫🥴😅 I really understand! I've had several things do this, including a concrete brick off a roof! Yes, that hurt 😵💫, but I'm still here. 🙃
Thanks, from Australia
🇭🇲🦘🦘🙏🦘🦘🇭🇲
Very informative, great video
thank you, Jeff
For people who want a bit more strength than the interlocking notches can give but who don't necessarily have the carpentry skills,you can drill a vertical hole through 2 logs at a time as you assemble and drive in a square peg then cut it off flush before going on to the next layer where you drill the hole in a different location.
That's true, chippysteve; thanks for the good word
All of the old log buildings I remember seeing around where I’ve lived in KY and TN, were square logs. Were they more common, or have I just managed to miss all the old round log structures?❤️🐝🤗
Seems from my anecdotal research that the logs were left round when time was of the essence and more important than quality or workmanship
@@farmhandscompanion OIC!! That makes perfect sense. Thank you for your info.❤️🤗🐝
I am afraid the books are in Norwegian, but our own Jon Bojer Godal has written a very interesting four volume work on houses made by log notching.
Thanks for the info, hallvardjrgensen
Might be a dumb question but I just moved to a wooded area.... I have found plenty of fallen trees but many have termites... I feel like these logs could have been used in the old days, and I wouldn't mind trying to make a shed, but were there tricks to cure the infested logs? Or do you have to cut a fresh tree?
Back in the day the plentiful abundance of trees didn't warrant tryin' to save infested logs. I used rotten logs to build a small log chicken house (episode 10) only to show I only needed it to last as long as I needed it (I know that sounds convoluted). It really depends on how much use you want to get out of the building versus how much trouble it takes to build it.
Buenos notches
It’s like the logs love each other and they want to kiss.
Saddle Notch, Lap Notch, Steeple Notch, Half Dovetail Notch.
Пожалуйста, скажите, чем заполнянться пространство между брёвнами?
И какие пропорции этого вещества?