Sorry to hear that! I can definitely see the new one is smaller! It’s so frustrating something like this happened to a brand you loved and trusted! It also happens to other brands. I’ve seen side by side photo of Xero shoes, the new one is narrower than the old one. I have a pair of VFF KMD sport that I love, I also like Saguaro Luck 1 but they are probably not good for hiking in the woods. Maybe you can try Saguaro Smart or Vitality. They are like VFF knockoffs except the toe separation part. Good ground feel and a lot affordable!
I’m new to the barefoot thing . However I’m really enjoying my peluva strand lightweight trainer . They were the same size as my regular shoes .( I also wore thin meaiguo toe socks without issues.)
I've been wearing them since 2013 and I've ran into the same situation where the size 41 is smaller than the first. But thought maybe I've gained weight. They are cheaper if you can get them from the USA.
I agree with you that Vibrams made in Vietnam and Myanmar are of different sizes. I experienced the same. But I couldn't exchange them because it was too expensive to ship back from where I live. I have since passed them to my son who's foot size is a little smaller.
Hey there! I got into barefoot running a while back and picked up a pair of the Xero shoes sandals. They might be a good alternative. They still have the protective bottom, but the toes are completely open air, so there's no risk of blowing out a single toe seem. Might be worth a shot if the Vivo don't work outl. Might even be good just to compare. I think the Genesis is there original, but I picked up the Z-Trek version. Happy trails!
Hey Luise, funny that I come across this video thinking I might get some five fingers for hiking. Who knows if it’ll be a good idea given your experience. I’ve had some vivos and while I’m not a huge fan of the upper (too plasticky in most models for my taste) I love the soles. More of the original primus than of the trail ones (which don’t have quite the grip and flexibility I’d want of a trail runner or hiker). But maybe they improved in the meantime. I want to point you to Wildling shoes. I’m almost sure you must have come across them. German brand that produces in Portugal. For a non fivefigers user, the best barefoot experience and choice of materials. I was impressed with the durability as well. The only worry I have with them would be protection from sharp objects - that’s why I’d be looking at five fingers for Rocky Mountain trails. I’d be curious what you think of the wildlings. Marlene
Hey Luise! That sucks, they should treat you better than that! I wear Skinners and can really recommend them if you want to really feel the earth under your feet but still be protected. I would argue that they are even more minimal than Vibrams or Vivos, as they are literally socks with abrasion- and puncture-resistent rubbery bottoms. There are no separate toes however, unfortunately, but they have quite wide toe "boxes", and although there is a small amount of inward compression as with any sock, much less so than any shoe, so your toes are not completely but relatively free, and certainly more so than with Vivos. For my part I want to try some Fivefingers, as I have a bunion on one foot and I tried some on yesterday at the shop and found that, more than merely allowing my toes to be free, they somewhat forced them to assume healthy and correct positions, which is what I really need. Skinners, even with their light pressure, still encourage my big toe to bend slighly inwards as it wants to do and as I want to prevent it from doing. However, it is exactly because Skinners do this less than any other shoe that I have tried that I have worn only them for the past few years, and I like them a lot, and I would really encourage you to try them if you like something very minimal. We should petition them to make a toed version!
@@luiseEllen Of course! Well yesterday I also learning about the Peluva Strand, which is a new toe shoe competitor to Vibram Fivefingers, and apparently/supposedly the only one. Unfortunately it seems they only ship to the US and Canada so far, so we will have to wait or figure something out. ☹ I live in Europe too.
Its not always the shoe that is the problem its how you walk. My barefoot shoes always lasts for 3 - 5 years before they start breaking down. Practice walking barefoot more often in nature and maybe wear some toe spacers and these can help re-balance your feet and you will walk and run more naturally with practice and experience less issues with shoes.
I had the sams iaaue. My big toe ia really big and my vibrams, I had five pair, all faced the same iasue after a couple of months. I complained to Vibram about it, with pictures, never got a reaction back. I don't believe customer service is a term they ever heatd of. So i went to other brands lime Merell and Xero and vivo, Freet and never looked back at the 5 fingers. I use my remaining par at the gym but will never buy a new pair again.
@ I know I wholeheartedly agree I love my Vibrams! Over the last few years I’ve started to shop in the mens section for hoodies, t-shirts, tracksuit bottoms, cargo pants because I realised mens clothes are made with heavier and more durable fabrics compared to womens of the same items!! They’re all around better made and last longer. So I’ve just recently ordered another pair of V-treks in my size but from the mens section. Let’s see if the quality is different/better? Curious have you tried this? Also, I’ve heard from others online that Belenka have the widest toe box of all of the non fingered barefoot shoes. I’ve ordered a pair of them too I’ll keep you posted.
Hey. Quick comment.. i dont want to talk you down but Vivobarefoots quality is bad.. i had a few shoes and i had to repair them several times.. even though they are quite pricey. I wear now shoes from Zaqq . Which is a german brand and they are made in germany.. the best closed barefoot shoes i ever had
Natural healthy human feet are shaped like 'duck feet'! If your toes are naturally aligned and feet conditioned from living in 5 Fingers, and if they're already as strong and developed as you want them, there's no need to wear toe-spreaders in your Vivobarefoot or other foot-shaped shoes. Which model walking boot did you get?
Unfortunilty after 51 (out of 56) years of shoe shaped not foot shaped shoes my toes are far from naturally aligned!! I still haven't found any suitable walking boots :(
@@luiseEllen Ah, sorry, I misunderstood something :~) I thought you were saying you didn't want to use toe-spreaders because you didn't need your feet to be any wider.
Sorry to hear that! I can definitely see the new one is smaller! It’s so frustrating something like this happened to a brand you loved and trusted! It also happens to other brands. I’ve seen side by side photo of Xero shoes, the new one is narrower than the old one. I have a pair of VFF KMD sport that I love, I also like Saguaro Luck 1 but they are probably not good for hiking in the woods. Maybe you can try Saguaro Smart or Vitality. They are like VFF knockoffs except the toe separation part. Good ground feel and a lot affordable!
I’m new to the barefoot thing . However I’m really enjoying my peluva strand lightweight trainer . They were the same size as my regular shoes .( I also wore thin meaiguo toe socks without issues.)
Thank you for sharing your experience
Thanks for watching! :)
How many years btw old and new pairs? When they started to make short? I theory- you can buy 1 size bigger - it will solve issue
I don´t know as I have many pairs.
I believe Pelluva shoes have toes. Not sure what they are like.
I like mine so far .
I've been wearing them since 2013 and I've ran into the same situation where the size 41 is smaller than the first. But thought maybe I've gained weight. They are cheaper if you can get them from the USA.
Ahh that's worth knowing as I can always get someone to bring me a pair as I now a few people coming over here. Thanks for letting me know :)
I agree with you that Vibrams made in Vietnam and Myanmar are of different sizes. I experienced the same. But I couldn't exchange them because it was too expensive to ship back from where I live. I have since passed them to my son who's foot size is a little smaller.
Thanks for sharing this....I knew I couldn't be the only one experiencing this!
Same thing happened to me. The vibram shoe was a whole size too small
I know it would be nice if they could just acknowledge it. They have no customer care!
Could you mention which country the ones that were smaller were manufactured?
I wrote it up on the screen in the video.
Hey there! I got into barefoot running a while back and picked up a pair of the Xero shoes sandals. They might be a good alternative. They still have the protective bottom, but the toes are completely open air, so there's no risk of blowing out a single toe seem. Might be worth a shot if the Vivo don't work outl. Might even be good just to compare. I think the Genesis is there original, but I picked up the Z-Trek version. Happy trails!
Thanks for the suggestions. I have Xero sandals. But it´s shoes I need. Thanks for stopping by to comment :)
I still love Vibram FiveFingers, and no problem with the big toe since it was liberated and not rubbing against each other toes as much.
That's great that you are enjoying them...free the toes! 🙌🏽
Hey Luise, funny that I come across this video thinking I might get some five fingers for hiking. Who knows if it’ll be a good idea given your experience.
I’ve had some vivos and while I’m not a huge fan of the upper (too plasticky in most models for my taste) I love the soles. More of the original primus than of the trail ones (which don’t have quite the grip and flexibility I’d want of a trail runner or hiker). But maybe they improved in the meantime.
I want to point you to Wildling shoes. I’m almost sure you must have come across them. German brand that produces in Portugal. For a non fivefigers user, the best barefoot experience and choice of materials. I was impressed with the durability as well. The only worry I have with them would be protection from sharp objects - that’s why I’d be looking at five fingers for Rocky Mountain trails. I’d be curious what you think of the wildlings.
Marlene
I know of wildlings but haven't seen them in real life only online!
Hey Luise! That sucks, they should treat you better than that! I wear Skinners and can really recommend them if you want to really feel the earth under your feet but still be protected. I would argue that they are even more minimal than Vibrams or Vivos, as they are literally socks with abrasion- and puncture-resistent rubbery bottoms. There are no separate toes however, unfortunately, but they have quite wide toe "boxes", and although there is a small amount of inward compression as with any sock, much less so than any shoe, so your toes are not completely but relatively free, and certainly more so than with Vivos.
For my part I want to try some Fivefingers, as I have a bunion on one foot and I tried some on yesterday at the shop and found that, more than merely allowing my toes to be free, they somewhat forced them to assume healthy and correct positions, which is what I really need. Skinners, even with their light pressure, still encourage my big toe to bend slighly inwards as it wants to do and as I want to prevent it from doing. However, it is exactly because Skinners do this less than any other shoe that I have tried that I have worn only them for the past few years, and I like them a lot, and I would really encourage you to try them if you like something very minimal. We should petition them to make a toed version!
Thanks I like the separate toes that's the best part!
@@luiseEllen Of course! Well yesterday I also learning about the Peluva Strand, which is a new toe shoe competitor to Vibram Fivefingers, and apparently/supposedly the only one. Unfortunately it seems they only ship to the US and Canada so far, so we will have to wait or figure something out. ☹ I live in Europe too.
Its not always the shoe that is the problem its how you walk. My barefoot shoes always lasts for 3 - 5 years before they start breaking down. Practice walking barefoot more often in nature and maybe wear some toe spacers and these can help re-balance your feet and you will walk and run more naturally with practice and experience less issues with shoes.
Good tips. I'm glad yours lasted so well for you :)
I had the sams iaaue. My big toe ia really big and my vibrams, I had five pair, all faced the same iasue after a couple of months. I complained to Vibram about it, with pictures, never got a reaction back. I don't believe customer service is a term they ever heatd of. So i went to other brands lime Merell and Xero and vivo, Freet and never looked back at the 5 fingers. I use my remaining par at the gym but will never buy a new pair again.
I agree. They really have done something quite unique in there ability to loose customers! 😳
I never have holes in the shoes there .....
Good for you!
When lived in pirtugal ,i got mine frome spanish amazon. Had them yrs now.
Good for you!
I'll be purchasing my first pair of Five Finger leather hemp shoes. Love your video!
Enjoy the toe freedom!
Get softstar primal runamoc, I've heard they are indestructible
I have some they are far from indestructible!
4 pairs in 2 years
@@_Crunch I'm very happy with quality of freet if you're looking for shoes
Good alternatives with wide toe boxes and good quality: Xero, Vivobarefoot, Be Lenka.
I have two pairs of Xero, didn't like Vivo. None free the toes like five fingers though! 😔
@ I know I wholeheartedly agree I love my Vibrams! Over the last few years I’ve started to shop in the mens section for hoodies, t-shirts, tracksuit bottoms, cargo pants because I realised mens clothes are made with heavier and more durable fabrics compared to womens of the same items!! They’re all around better made and last
longer. So I’ve just recently ordered another pair of V-treks in my size but from the mens section. Let’s see if the quality is different/better? Curious have you tried this?
Also, I’ve heard from others online that Belenka have the widest toe box of all of the non fingered barefoot shoes. I’ve ordered a pair of them too I’ll keep you posted.
@@sonja7halcyon I have no choice but to order mens as I have big feet. I did not know that about mens clothing though...very interesting and unfair!!
Hey. Quick comment.. i dont want to talk you down but Vivobarefoots quality is bad.. i had a few shoes and i had to repair them several times.. even though they are quite pricey. I wear now shoes from Zaqq . Which is a german brand and they are made in germany.. the best closed barefoot shoes i ever had
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look them up. German stuff is usually good ;)
They are turning into the big corporations now
Natural healthy human feet are shaped like 'duck feet'! If your toes are naturally aligned and feet conditioned from living in 5 Fingers, and if they're already as strong and developed as you want them, there's no need to wear toe-spreaders in your Vivobarefoot or other foot-shaped shoes.
Which model walking boot did you get?
Unfortunilty after 51 (out of 56) years of shoe shaped not foot shaped shoes my toes are far from naturally aligned!!
I still haven't found any suitable walking boots :(
@@luiseEllen Ah, sorry, I misunderstood something :~) I thought you were saying you didn't want to use toe-spreaders because you didn't need your feet to be any wider.
@@shish_taouk Thanks for the recomendation
I used to wear the bikilas to run cross country
Thanks I will look them up :)
I'm on my second pair of 5fingers n they r amazing n the size smaller is what vibram explain this video is bollox keep on with the 5toes😊
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She is buying another pair in 3, 2, 1…..
Haha you are not far wrong! 🤭
If your done with them you don’t love them
If you say so! 🙄
sometimes if you love something you have to let it go
Evo s r rubbish they r indoor not out door ffs
They are for out door use. Just like any other brand they have different ranges including ones for hiking and trail running etc