If these dudes just brought a ukulele, they'd be able to sing their way out of their situation. "Sometimes people can make a mistake, but that doesn't make them a terrible person"
I think the interesting part about "read the text" is; who do you think wrote the texts? 😅 Not the girl. You were talking to a grown ass man the whole time, and a team of officers were logging everything you said. They don't need to read anything. They MADE the thing.
They use the "I live with my aunt but she's not in town" line because kids from broken families are just straight up more vulnerable. If she's living with her aunt - for whatever reason - the guy can assume the parents are not in the picture and that just makes for an easier target. Living with her aunt and they're in a bad neighborhood? Ringing a dinner bell. It's horrifically sad but absolutely true these kids in broken home situations are targeted.
I hate that this comment reminds me so much of this girl I met in school. Her parents are filthy rich because they own and run a company halfway around the world, and they shipped her off to her aunt so she could be raised in America. She has extremely underdeveloped social skills, but worst of all she is in a relationship with a guy 5-6 years older than her, which matters when you’re in your early 20’s and barely old enough to drink. They make BDSM and racial fetish porn (they are a WMAF couple) that they post to tons of sexual subreddits onto her public profile that is directly linked to her Discord. I’ve MET this boyfriend before and they don’t even act like they like each other, I’ve only seen them sit next to each other while scrolling on their phones. Sure, she’s over 18 and Internet warriors are going to screech that adults can do anything they want, but the lack of guidance in her life, the age gap, the troubling power and racial dynamics in her relationship that doesn’t even appear loving… yikes.
I still have my parents but i wasn't looked over enough to keep me from being that target and it was normalized for me so it looked like i "wanted it' Even tho it was all a trauma response from being molested (by a family member) and i cant tell you the amount of times i been told to stop using the internet bc of creeps but teenage me didn't listen and i was too hung up being groomed by sick fucks online.
@@MichelleD2023a 22 year old woman in a relationship with a 27 year old man? Color me shocked.. Let me guess, you’re bitter about approaching thirty alone
Never heard this before but I guess I aid in that statistic lol. The fact my parents basically forgot to have someone raise me must have been a real big draw. No wonder I was so popular.
@@MadiganinPeachI found out even your looks and your personality and living circumstances can make you a victim. They are predators and I guess they know their prey., messed up.
If that guy was truely concerned for her, then he should have dropped the money in her mailbox and not have come with condoms, and then contact the police. He was most definitely there for something else.
He would have contacted her parent or guardian alerted them to what their child was doing online and offered his support to them. Meeting children you don't know secretly without the knowledge of their family and other adults, will just never be right.
@@captainblacksand8484 @canadianfreepress literally anything other than what he did would have been far more acceptable. Like coming over when he aunt was there and telling her what her niece was doing. He's just a dumbass predator
Right? Or asked more about her situation and if there are adults making her do it, and then just called the police and reported it with her account name, not gone to see her personally.
so i saw this in the original video, someone commented, "if he gets mad this fast, imagine the "child" saying no to him" and thats a scary thing to think about
It seems to me that Chris is loosing it more and more, he sounds really annoyed by these scumbags. I mean I understand, it must be tiring to hear the same excuses over and over again.
It’s scary how angry some of these weirdos get. They’re so upset because they can’t fulfil their assault and rape of a child. That’s how sick these men are. He’s not even angry he’s caught, he’s angry that there’s not a child there for him to abuse
The run down house is actually not a bad idea. It seems more lived in, believable and less red flag-y than those big fck off houses with cookies and sweet tea on the counter.
you don't know what someone's life is like? not every child who is abused lives in a run down trailer or the sketchy part of town and not every child who lives in a really nice house in a suburb has a perfect life. Predators live in every community and neglected and abused kids live in every community.
I feel like most people have this experience even if they don’t talk about it… I’m happy seeing these criminals punished most the time they just get a slap on the wrist.. this is becoming more common with social media … hopefully you found healing though.
My older sister had a 23yo "boyfriend" when she was 14, and our mom not only knew about it but allowed him to spend the night at our house many times. Only time she got mad was when sis had a pregnancy scare, then mom got angry at the dude, but only for having _unprotected_ s*x with her 14yo daughter. Same woman wordlessly just watched when her drinking buddy groped me at the table on my 13th bday and called me rude when I got up and left. 🙄 The crazy thing is, my entire family (including my sisters) thinks I'm stupid for not just "letting this go" and that mom did nothing wrong. I used to blame myself for everything that happened to me but now as a mother myself I have finally realized how truly shitty my upbringing was and what a pos my mom was.
@@thisisstrange4641 I wouldn't even be calling her mom... Being a parent is earned by treating kids with respect and teaching them... Not by allowing GROWN ADULTS to groom your kid, especially when one is you... I'd still acknowledge their relationship to me, but I wouldn't be calling them "mom" or anything else affectionate.
@@a_d3mon The things I mentioned are only a small part of a long list of things my mom said and did, I can't even count how many times I was told by her that it was my own fault or that I deserved it when I got SA'd... I currently have no contact with anyone in my family and _I'm_ considered to be the problem, because I won't accept that "that's just how mom is, let it go, omg"... The worst part is I still at times feel that they must be right, that if I'm the only one to think all this shit is wrong maybe _I'm_ wrong?
The four most used lines by predators: - "I'm just here to hang out." - "I've never done this before." - "I didn't know she was underage?" - **makes a song using a ukulele**
tfw you check the comment and see "10 months ago"; the ukulele non-apology happened 10 months ago at the time I'm posting this comment...holy hell does time fly
Don’t get me wrong I love that Chris now can say and do whatever he wants on his own show compared to tcap but it hurts to see his power of “take a seat” basically fade away.
100 for sure. I miss the couch. Lets get Dene some followers so he can make a trip to Australia! Then again, he's afraid of snakes and spiders so that may not be what he wants. BUT WE WANT IT!
It’s dane or Felix 9/10 but I love them both! I binge him and Dane specifically but the only other guest I get equally, if not more, excited for it Mary 🤣🤣🤣
Chris is so unhinged now that he's not tied to any kind of network standards, and I am here for it. Also, he's still got the magic "have a seat" touch. I mean, I would happily take a seat and chat with him for hours about the stories he likely has from over the years. Wouldn't have to ask me twice lol
@@coalbloodedhow could things get worse? was this man’s approach good then, even though it could get him arrested and makes him look sketchy as hell? the safest option (& more convincing of him not being a creep) imo is if a man his age spoke to another adult if he’s truly concerned for a kid. talking to a kid may not have the same, positive outcome either. it’s why teachers & guidance counselors discuss issues with a kid’s parents. that’s the right way to go about it
17:36 okay but this hit home. I actually had this happen with an older guy I was talking to ( I was maybe 13/14 and he was 18/19 I think, I just know he was going to college). When I didn’t do what he wanted, he sent the convo to my parent pretending to be looking out for me. Didn’t realized how messed up it all was till a few years ago, and honestly I am still a bit disappointed that my parents punished me instead of going after the guy ( cuz he was an adult and it was really on him not to mess naive younger people).
I was 15 and a guy did the same thing to me online and he was 22. Unfortunately he did end up raping me and my parents found out and punished me when they found out on my 16th birthday. Worst birthday ever. I feel your pain friend and it’s not right what that pervert did or how your parents reacted. I’m glad you can recognize that NONE OF IT was your fault. I hope you’re doing much better and thriving now ❤
This is the one guy from these new Hansen investigations that I really want some update on. While I do believe he’s here to be a predator, from the chat log that was presented, there could be insufficient evidence and therefore reasonable doubt for him to get away with this. I wonder if Hansen was instructed by the police investigators to not go into the details of the chat, because they wanted to confront the dude in their own interrogations without him being mentally prepared for it. It’s just weird how Hansen keeps going “yeah yeah I’ve read your chat” but does not bring up any specific line.
@@davidsmock8235 I also noticed this. Like that's very forward and explicit. I don't think that piece of evidence would go well in court. Seems like it would give them a good ground for enticement or something. Was definitely the text that changed his standoff attitude.
See I always get mad when they show up immediately cause the longer they text, the more hard evidence the police have to get charges to stick. Take Gen Teale (idc if I spelled his name wrong) for example, he was an open and shut case because he spent 3 months chatting before showing up
@@CasyTheCriminal335 the site they’re using in these stings are for adult services, not for dating or general chatting, so it makes sense that the predators aren’t spending time grooming the children. These decoys are essentially pretending to be child prostitutes, or I think in some cases parents selling their children into that business to make money. I know, it’s really fucked up that they’d even pretend to do this, but it also speaks volumes when people take the bait and actually show up.
@davidsmock8235 I thought the same thing about that text. Thought I was the only one, looking in the comments. Seemed way too baity to be used reliably in court. Then also (at least from the texts shown) he wasn't very sexually explisive at all. I mean, maybe the condom text, but either way, it would be really hard to push that charge in court.
( @ 11:21 ) ‘You asked if she had a room’ and Buff is so right- no one who I have ever interacted with ( my mom started a drug/alcohol treatment facility in DC who also works to help folks get housing after rehab ) professionally or otherwise would have phrased it like that. Even without training folks usually say a variation of ‘do you have somewhere to go?’ NOT ‘do you have a room’ I know it’s a little thing but I’m pleased @buffpro pointed it out.
He asked that because skipthegames is an escort site and they usually work out of hotels rooms. Not justifying his actions just adding insight as someone that’s worked on that site
Yeah, it's called grooming. He wanted to keep the girl for himself, so he would have given her money and stuff to keep her from being with other men and be with him exclusively. Like a sugar daddy. But with kids. And he would want her exclusively to him while he most likely looked for other young girls to abuse.
@@fenixphucks3331noo way. Instant red flag was "ok I'm curious" then add on the have you got a room and asking if an adult was there. If he meant it he didn't need to ask those follow up questions
On that same thought process...criminal psychology says that when someone IS innocent they get very angry and combative when accused of a crime while if theyre guilty they remain calm and just try different defensive tactics...so IF this man was actually innocent and just ignorant it would make sense that he was so adamant and angry at the accusations...idk this was the only video ive ever seen where i questioned if the dude was actually a predator or just stupid...
@@zach4944 Well, maybe he really believes he’s innocent. There’s no reason for him to show up with condoms after a sexual chat with a minor other than he was gonna do something
@@mattmurdock5424 i dont think he had a sexually charged conversation though...once he found out her age that stopped which again is why this whole situation WAS such a grey area. I mean, hes obviously stupid and in the wrong no matter what but even Chris knew he didnt have anything on him other than weirdo coincidences that he COULD HAVE been being honest about...either way he messed up of course
I love how they say "read the text" as if it's magically going to say something else, or like he can convince people who read them that they're illiterate or have poor reading comprehension. Or like Chris isn't smart enough to deduce what the guy is really saying. It's like OK, dude, you were just going to drop off the condoms and go on your merry way.... jackass. That F necklace was just unfortunate lmaoo
This was filmed in Michigan. We have legalized medical and recreational cannabis. However, this guy is a piece of work. I genuinely hope he got charges that stuck.
It is disgusting how often it happens. No one actually knows HOW often. It happens with people met online, strangers, friends, and even family. And what’s most upsetting is that sometimes the victims will try to tell somebody what happened, and it basically gets swept under the rug. I love that Ken and Dane keep posting these videos because it just brings more awareness. Thanks for what you guys do.
My favorite lie was when i found that my brother used my mom's credit card to buy himself a virtual amazon gift card of $500, and he even let us look at his amazon history because he's an idiot, and it was right there on the second page, and he was like, "someone else must have bought that and then put my name in it to frame me." i had to point out how stupid that sounded for like five minutes before he admitted what he'd done.
That guy is a hardened criminal. In most circumstances, I wouldn't even want to be in the same room with people like that anymore. I know because I've lived in bad neighbordhoods. He's got that look and he's a hard man. And he reacts like a convict. They know when they're caught and it's time to prepare a plausible court defense. This is a dangerous man who has hurt people in the past and will hurt them again.
💯 agree. Me too. I used to live around creeps like this and they used to try and play me. They're habitual liars, cons, and criminals. They think they can talk their way out of anything.
If he was really genuine and thought she needed money to stop doing child pr**titution, he could of sent her money through cash app or something. Then reported her profile to the website and the police.
1. Could have, of means from and just sounds vaguely similar 2. Yah and cops are too busy going after those they see as inferior and commit legal crimes to help anyone or stop crimes
There was a recent one where a 30 year old guy waited outside an elementary school, where he claimed to be the father of one of the children that isn't his. He was caught with sleeping pills I believe, and or confessed to drugging kids. So you should cover that one because it's a crazy story and there's a huge twist in the follow up that's CRAZY
@HannahMatthau Ewu Bodycam made a video about that guy a few days ago! Its When a Child Predator Gets Caught in the Act (im pretty sure thats what its called)
Is that the guy that said he had drugged starbursts to give her? The story said he did have the candy, but they didn't test positive for a known substance. Regardless, I can't imagine how the police initially said they couldn't do anything despite all the steps the guy had done to impersonate a parent. I guess it only becomes attempted kidnapping if you put your hands on them--showing up with enough background research to reasonably pass for the parent and only getting denied because an official got suspicious doesn't clear the bar. They weren't really even interested in pursuing trespassing or even discuss a restraining order with the parents (a parent brought the subject up briefly).
We all know that even IF he was really initially going to help financially, it is extremely unlikely that he would actually hold back if he saw a clear opening, like when he came to the house. He blew his whole argument by showing up after the decoy explicitly stated what they would do. I've seen too many of these weasels in my own life to give him the benefit of the doubt. He couldn't care less if she got hit by a bus, his ploy was all for his own gain, full-stop.
I wonder if he could lie to himself so much because he did feel bad for her. "Oh it's terrible this little girl is selling her body. So sad. I am going to sleep with (rape) her. But it is sad."
@@lucystoner yeah, he might think it's "sad," and would still try to justify his own actions. My dad always told me that some guys (him being a prime example) will protect girls from everyone but themselves.
I watch a lot of these stings across Facebook. The first thing they say is “assume we know everything you’ve ever said or done” but these predators still think there’s a grey area for them to talk their way out.
As someone who was assalted for a long period of time as a kid (around 3- 13) I just want to say these things stick in your head forever. To this day if somone pats me on the back pokes me or goes in for a hug when I’m not ready I still full body flinch
Even when they don’t go with the ‘help’ angle, their first instinct is to always gaslight and blame the kids. “They asked me to bring the condoms; they wanted the drugs”, even after its clear the kid isn’t a real person (thank god) It’s sick.
As someone who sold sx as a chld to adulthood, the big giveaway for me is that he didn’t chat more. The men I’ve meet who want to help you ask you more questions, usually want to talk on the phone. He’s a usual john who knows how to get a meeting quick without a lot of chatting.
The funniest part is he really could just invoke his right to remain silent and say nothing and probably stand a better chance in court but he just keeps blabbing 🤣
Jeff stalked me for over a year when I was around 12 years old. He was was friends with my mom's ex husband, after the divorce both men sent me sexually explicit messages and drove past my house among many other threatening behaviors. Throw the book at him.
I like how argumentative this guy's being here. It's more entertaining watching him scramble for an out than the dudes who just take a seat and start falling apart.
As a victim of CSA from age 6 to 12, I LOVE Ken and Dane. Ya'll give the shit that I was too scared to give. Two hot dads and their set-in-stone stuff to bust our creepy dudes. This channel is my happy place. 💝
How's she be able to take her post down with cash? It'd make more sense if it was like "hey, if you need money to take your post down, I'll send you an e-transfer because we live in an age where you can do that." Although he'd probably say "I came over to help make sure she knew how to complete the e-transfer."
He is crazy aggressive…just me or did anyone else get creeped out how close he approached her immediately after opening the door?? Like she went into the hall and he was on her heels 😳 they HAD to push him back, he was about to pounce on that poor girl 1:54
This episode actually took place just south of where I live. Good to see Chris Hansen and the Genessee County Sherrif's department are out there protecting kids.
One of my favorite fan bases ever is Chris Hansen's fan base you got every type of person cheering and clapping to get creeps caught and away from children when ever he is on a show, podcast, or any other form of news and entertainment
Could've agreed with him but when the decoy said "if we won't fvcking then don't come" and he still did, with condoms and weeds, him being a Samaritan is thrown out the window.
I haven't seen your content in literal years, and I just started bingeing these TCAP/HVSP reaction videos of yours, as a victim these are honestly therapeutic in a way. I've been suffering more mentally lately from the trauma that was caused by my assaulter/groomer, but watching you two dunk on gross guys helps ease me a little. I think it's also partially because I used to watch your channel a ton when I was younger, so it makes me feel safe? That's what I'd assume As for the rest of your content, it's still really awesome just like how I remember ❤️ keep up the great work, guys
I will not tolerate red Faygo slander! It's the best one and it's downright magical when you're sick almost as good as Vernors. How dare you? LMAO. Anyway, I'm glad you guys are covering the new investigations as well as the classics. Put every child predator on blast! TASE EM!
If you are a good Samaritan - you don't go to the house yourself. You call the police. Send them to that address that the "minor" gives you. Be honest with the police and express your concerns.
“It’s good for you to explore yourself but please don’t share it with anyone until you’re 18. There are sites and therapists who can advise you. Good luck and take care.” It’s that fking easy.
These kind of guys are the scariest, for the person they are preying on it seems like you owe them because they’ve been nothing but nice and caring. Pretending to be upset about age idk I know that it’s so easy to feel like you owe them something when they start off as such a nice person.
The excuses pedos like him give enrage me more when I think about how they’re protected in religious spaces, families, friendships, etc. People generally understand and know those people are pedos, but they overlook it for whatever “contribution” they may provide. It’s disgusting and incomprehensible how people who let pedos get away with such obvious lies live with themselves while victims have to suffer and be gaslit/accept these dangerous people in their lives.
You can tell that this guy suspected this was fake. It always amazes me how the desire of these pedos is stronger than the suspicion EVERY F!CKING TIME.
When he started saying that he would escort a person doing the same thing of the property and physically assault them, I think he realized how he just fucked up. He's literally saying that if someone else did this he would assume that they had bad intentions like he was obviously having regardless of denying it.
If these dudes just brought a ukulele, they'd be able to sing their way out of their situation. "Sometimes people can make a mistake, but that doesn't make them a terrible person"
💀💀💀
😂😂😂
“Not a groomer, just a loser!”
Here comes the Toxic Gossip Train
🎶toxic pred sting trainnnnn🎶
He's telling the police to "read the text" as if him being there at all isn't the biggest issue to begin with
100% my thoughts.
I think the interesting part about "read the text" is; who do you think wrote the texts? 😅 Not the girl. You were talking to a grown ass man the whole time, and a team of officers were logging everything you said. They don't need to read anything. They MADE the thing.
Has anyone actually accidentally stumbled in to the sting house and not be pedo genuine question btw ?
@@nicholashudson6009Tobias funke did
Actually legally that wouldn't be an issue, wrong yes from a logical standpoint but there no charges attached to simply being there.
They use the "I live with my aunt but she's not in town" line because kids from broken families are just straight up more vulnerable. If she's living with her aunt - for whatever reason - the guy can assume the parents are not in the picture and that just makes for an easier target. Living with her aunt and they're in a bad neighborhood? Ringing a dinner bell.
It's horrifically sad but absolutely true these kids in broken home situations are targeted.
I hate that this comment reminds me so much of this girl I met in school. Her parents are filthy rich because they own and run a company halfway around the world, and they shipped her off to her aunt so she could be raised in America. She has extremely underdeveloped social skills, but worst of all she is in a relationship with a guy 5-6 years older than her, which matters when you’re in your early 20’s and barely old enough to drink. They make BDSM and racial fetish porn (they are a WMAF couple) that they post to tons of sexual subreddits onto her public profile that is directly linked to her Discord. I’ve MET this boyfriend before and they don’t even act like they like each other, I’ve only seen them sit next to each other while scrolling on their phones. Sure, she’s over 18 and Internet warriors are going to screech that adults can do anything they want, but the lack of guidance in her life, the age gap, the troubling power and racial dynamics in her relationship that doesn’t even appear loving… yikes.
I still have my parents but i wasn't looked over enough to keep me from being that target and it was normalized for me so it looked like i "wanted it' Even tho it was all a trauma response from being molested (by a family member) and i cant tell you the amount of times i been told to stop using the internet bc of creeps but teenage me didn't listen and i was too hung up being groomed by sick fucks online.
@MichelleD2023 but, she is an adult... you sound like a jilted friend zoned guy.
@@CowToesyou think MICHELLE is a guy……😂
@@MichelleD2023a 22 year old woman in a relationship with a 27 year old man? Color me shocked..
Let me guess, you’re bitter about approaching thirty alone
I think they've gotten much better at making it look like the young person lives in a bad situation. This is a big lure for the pedos.
This made my stomach churn. Who knows how many have done exactly that and gotten away with it
@@gucci_meme4250 right!?! I feel all police stations should have their own "Chris Hanson" crew.
Never heard this before but I guess I aid in that statistic lol. The fact my parents basically forgot to have someone raise me must have been a real big draw. No wonder I was so popular.
@@MadiganinPeachsame here.. hopefully you found healing though…
@@MadiganinPeachI found out even your looks and your personality and living circumstances can make you a victim. They are predators and I guess they know their prey., messed up.
If that guy was truely concerned for her, then he should have dropped the money in her mailbox and not have come with condoms, and then contact the police. He was most definitely there for something else.
Or just cashapped or venmo'd or something! No need to actually show up
Also maybe express more concern for her situation over text. (Unless he did)
He would have contacted her parent or guardian alerted them to what their child was doing online and offered his support to them. Meeting children you don't know secretly without the knowledge of their family and other adults, will just never be right.
@@captainblacksand8484 @canadianfreepress literally anything other than what he did would have been far more acceptable. Like coming over when he aunt was there and telling her what her niece was doing. He's just a dumbass predator
Right? Or asked more about her situation and if there are adults making her do it, and then just called the police and reported it with her account name, not gone to see her personally.
so i saw this in the original video, someone commented, "if he gets mad this fast, imagine the "child" saying no to him" and thats a scary thing to think about
Wow yeah
Yeah he was willing to share his weed but he already took his speed. This guy is a loose cannon!
I was thinking that too when rewatching honestly. Like, I have no doubt in my mind if there was legitimately a child there, they would have been hurt.
It seems to me that Chris is loosing it more and more, he sounds really annoyed by these scumbags.
I mean I understand, it must be tiring to hear the same excuses over and over again.
The older one gets, the less F*@&$ one gives.
I'm here for it
His personal life is also in shambles; it's actually kinda sad
@@spawnglance6720 What happened?
@@spawnglance6720oh no! I heard he just got married. I wonder what happened
I can't wait for these predators to start using "I'm not a groomer, just a loser"
I believe one has said something to that effect in a previous video. It was the bigger dude with the cowboy hat. He was the og of "im just a loser"
That guy who kept saying he was stupid
@@bmbas7180 yeah i believe his name was vincent ambrosio, aka the undertaker predator
"Im a loser"
All abooooard the Toxic Gossip Train!
They have to sing it though. 😂
It’s scary how angry some of these weirdos get. They’re so upset because they can’t fulfil their assault and rape of a child. That’s how sick these men are. He’s not even angry he’s caught, he’s angry that there’s not a child there for him to abuse
Most bullies and criminals think they are “the real victim” and that it’s completely unfair that they are held responsible for their actions.
Exactly! You can definitely see his disappointment...
Idk just seemed super defensive to me, 'upset because he can't fulfill his rape' seems like a reach.
The run down house is actually not a bad idea. It seems more lived in, believable and less red flag-y than those big fck off houses with cookies and sweet tea on the counter.
It's also all Chris and Vince can afford at this point.
The set has been updated to reflect the last 2 terms of Democrats in charge.
you don't know what someone's life is like? not every child who is abused lives in a run down trailer or the sketchy part of town and not every child who lives in a really nice house in a suburb has a perfect life. Predators live in every community and neglected and abused kids live in every community.
@@GrumpyGrebowhat about that one republican dude in between?
@@GrumpyGrebo'dEmOcRaTs' 🙄
As someone that's been assaulted at 16 by a 25 yr old creep...I am glad some men shame them, victim blaming is very common unfortunately.
I feel like most people have this experience even if they don’t talk about it… I’m happy seeing these criminals punished most the time they just get a slap on the wrist.. this is becoming more common with social media … hopefully you found healing though.
❤
My older sister had a 23yo "boyfriend" when she was 14, and our mom not only knew about it but allowed him to spend the night at our house many times. Only time she got mad was when sis had a pregnancy scare, then mom got angry at the dude, but only for having _unprotected_ s*x with her 14yo daughter.
Same woman wordlessly just watched when her drinking buddy groped me at the table on my 13th bday and called me rude when I got up and left. 🙄
The crazy thing is, my entire family (including my sisters) thinks I'm stupid for not just "letting this go" and that mom did nothing wrong.
I used to blame myself for everything that happened to me but now as a mother myself I have finally realized how truly shitty my upbringing was and what a pos my mom was.
@@thisisstrange4641 I wouldn't even be calling her mom... Being a parent is earned by treating kids with respect and teaching them... Not by allowing GROWN ADULTS to groom your kid, especially when one is you...
I'd still acknowledge their relationship to me, but I wouldn't be calling them "mom" or anything else affectionate.
@@a_d3mon The things I mentioned are only a small part of a long list of things my mom said and did, I can't even count how many times I was told by her that it was my own fault or that I deserved it when I got SA'd...
I currently have no contact with anyone in my family and _I'm_ considered to be the problem, because I won't accept that "that's just how mom is, let it go, omg"...
The worst part is I still at times feel that they must be right, that if I'm the only one to think all this shit is wrong maybe _I'm_ wrong?
The four most used lines by predators:
- "I'm just here to hang out."
- "I've never done this before."
- "I didn't know she was underage?"
- **makes a song using a ukulele**
And then there’s always; “want some pizza?” 😂
How dare you make me laugh so hard?
tfw you check the comment and see "10 months ago"; the ukulele non-apology happened 10 months ago at the time I'm posting this comment...holy hell does time fly
Let me add one more " He/She wanted to do this"
Don’t get me wrong I love that Chris now can say and do whatever he wants on his own show compared to tcap but it hurts to see his power of “take a seat” basically fade away.
Has he paid his taxes yet. It's funny he is catching criminals and he is one.
I mean yeah.. dudes much older now 🤷♂️
@monkcho7934saying Chris shouldn’t catch predators because of a bench warrant that no charges even came of seems like a red flag lol
@@thomasbowling8978agreed lol
@@thomasbowling8978Exactly!!
I don’t think it’s so much Chris losing his touch as it is the predators watching his videos and trying to train themselves to resist him
This guy trying to gaslight Chris and getting shut down is great
I like when Ken has other guests on, but him and Dane are the GOAT.
💯💯💯💯
100 for sure. I miss the couch. Lets get Dene some followers so he can make a trip to Australia! Then again, he's afraid of snakes and spiders so that may not be what he wants. BUT WE WANT IT!
So truuuu
Batman & Robin wish they were Ken & Dane
It’s dane or Felix 9/10 but I love them both! I binge him and Dane specifically but the only other guest I get equally, if not more, excited for it Mary 🤣🤣🤣
I love how this guy just conveniently forgets Venmo exists if he’s “just trying to help out financially”
15 year Olds mostly don't have debit cards- so the thought is cash would've carried them farther.
Middle aged people can’t comprehend that more often than not though, and I don’t think a child can use a service like that either
A lot of teenagers have cash app, however.
Or leaving an envelope of cash in the mailbox without meeting
@caseybarnes4221 you can get a card from venmo. I have one but yeah that pedo is full of crap
I feel like it’s dangerous for Chris these days, that’s why they have the cops come out with him. These people are dangerous, that’s just how I feel.
Chris is so unhinged now that he's not tied to any kind of network standards, and I am here for it.
Also, he's still got the magic "have a seat" touch. I mean, I would happily take a seat and chat with him for hours about the stories he likely has from over the years. Wouldn't have to ask me twice lol
Oh yeah 😎
If he was really serious about not being creepy, he woulda shown up when he thought the aunt would be back home to tell her what the niece was up to 😂
!!!!!
Realistically, he wouldn’t have shown up at all lol
That's not necessarily a safe or helpful thing to do, though. If this were a real situation, it could just make things worse for the girl.
@@coalbloodedhow could things get worse? was this man’s approach good then, even though it could get him arrested and makes him look sketchy as hell? the safest option (& more convincing of him not being a creep) imo is if a man his age spoke to another adult if he’s truly concerned for a kid. talking to a kid may not have the same, positive outcome either. it’s why teachers & guidance counselors discuss issues with a kid’s parents. that’s the right way to go about it
@@tardybloomer I meant that the aunt could be the one pimping out the kid, so going to her to save the kid could just make things worse for the kid.
Scary how aggressive this guy is. Can see him totally being like that, intimidating a young teen.. Or maybe he's just angry he got caught.
He’s angry because he won’t be able to rape a child
“I’m so sick of being sick!”
I second this statement.
I third
I fourth. 😂
I fifth with 4 young kids, I was sick over a month ago and still got the congested sinuses
@@bronsiee ok?
Doesn't Chris understand, this is simply a product of the 🎶Toxic gossip train🎶
17:36 okay but this hit home. I actually had this happen with an older guy I was talking to ( I was maybe 13/14 and he was 18/19 I think, I just know he was going to college). When I didn’t do what he wanted, he sent the convo to my parent pretending to be looking out for me. Didn’t realized how messed up it all was till a few years ago, and honestly I am still a bit disappointed that my parents punished me instead of going after the guy ( cuz he was an adult and it was really on him not to mess naive younger people).
I was 15 and a guy did the same thing to me online and he was 22. Unfortunately he did end up raping me and my parents found out and punished me when they found out on my 16th birthday. Worst birthday ever. I feel your pain friend and it’s not right what that pervert did or how your parents reacted. I’m glad you can recognize that NONE OF IT was your fault. I hope you’re doing much better and thriving now ❤
@@alexisd6106I'm so sorry you went through that... Hope you're okay
@@alexisd6106so sorry for your pain, hope the best wishes for your future ❤
Love that Chris has just become ruthless in he's new show proper calls them out
@@alexisd6106oooof rip GGs
back with more Chris Hansen, more villains to tase.
15 gets you 20
They almost never get tased :(
This is the one guy from these new Hansen investigations that I really want some update on. While I do believe he’s here to be a predator, from the chat log that was presented, there could be insufficient evidence and therefore reasonable doubt for him to get away with this.
I wonder if Hansen was instructed by the police investigators to not go into the details of the chat, because they wanted to confront the dude in their own interrogations without him being mentally prepared for it. It’s just weird how Hansen keeps going “yeah yeah I’ve read your chat” but does not bring up any specific line.
And notice the decoy says "if u coming we r f*&%#$@g if not don't *blurred*". Just seems shady to me.
@@davidsmock8235 I also noticed this. Like that's very forward and explicit. I don't think that piece of evidence would go well in court. Seems like it would give them a good ground for enticement or something. Was definitely the text that changed his standoff attitude.
See I always get mad when they show up immediately cause the longer they text, the more hard evidence the police have to get charges to stick. Take Gen Teale (idc if I spelled his name wrong) for example, he was an open and shut case because he spent 3 months chatting before showing up
@@CasyTheCriminal335 the site they’re using in these stings are for adult services, not for dating or general chatting, so it makes sense that the predators aren’t spending time grooming the children. These decoys are essentially pretending to be child prostitutes, or I think in some cases parents selling their children into that business to make money. I know, it’s really fucked up that they’d even pretend to do this, but it also speaks volumes when people take the bait and actually show up.
@davidsmock8235 I thought the same thing about that text. Thought I was the only one, looking in the comments. Seemed way too baity to be used reliably in court. Then also (at least from the texts shown) he wasn't very sexually explisive at all. I mean, maybe the condom text, but either way, it would be really hard to push that charge in court.
( @ 11:21 ) ‘You asked if she had a room’ and Buff is so right- no one who I have ever interacted with ( my mom started a drug/alcohol treatment facility in DC who also works to help folks get housing after rehab ) professionally or otherwise would have phrased it like that. Even without training folks usually say a variation of ‘do you have somewhere to go?’ NOT ‘do you have a room’ I know it’s a little thing but I’m pleased @buffpro pointed it out.
He asked that because skipthegames is an escort site and they usually work out of hotels rooms. Not justifying his actions just adding insight as someone that’s worked on that site
He couldn't say predators because he would be calling himself a predator - hence why he said "bad men".
If he’s supposed to be helpful: report the account, call the cops, contact the aunt. Dont show up with weed and condoms. 🥴
Noted.
The world is lucky to have so many good samaritans running around nowadays 🥳
I feel privileged to live in a world with so many caring people like Generous Jeff
I do feel a bit bad for chris It probably takes a toll dealing with them-
Not me! Wish I had his job lol
Feel better soon Ken! My days wouldn't be complete without you. You and Dane are the best! "Tase'em!"
Imagine if this dude is genuine and he really thinks hes helping this girl and protecting her..... That might be even worse tbh.
Yeah, it's called grooming. He wanted to keep the girl for himself, so he would have given her money and stuff to keep her from being with other men and be with him exclusively. Like a sugar daddy. But with kids. And he would want her exclusively to him while he most likely looked for other young girls to abuse.
I believe him 😭
@@fenixphucks3331noo way. Instant red flag was "ok I'm curious" then add on the have you got a room and asking if an adult was there. If he meant it he didn't need to ask those follow up questions
This is a troll comment - but WHY would you troll this subject??? Creepy.
Yeah the red Faygo is TRASH XD
BuffPro shouting "Tase'em!" is the best part of these!
This is the most adamant a predator has been that Chris is wrong
On that same thought process...criminal psychology says that when someone IS innocent they get very angry and combative when accused of a crime while if theyre guilty they remain calm and just try different defensive tactics...so IF this man was actually innocent and just ignorant it would make sense that he was so adamant and angry at the accusations...idk this was the only video ive ever seen where i questioned if the dude was actually a predator or just stupid...
@@zach4944 Well, maybe he really believes he’s innocent. There’s no reason for him to show up with condoms after a sexual chat with a minor other than he was gonna do something
bro was trying to make himself believe it
@@mattmurdock5424 i dont think he had a sexually charged conversation though...once he found out her age that stopped which again is why this whole situation WAS such a grey area. I mean, hes obviously stupid and in the wrong no matter what but even Chris knew he didnt have anything on him other than weirdo coincidences that he COULD HAVE been being honest about...either way he messed up of course
He also did the best job at giving himself a somewhat sorta kinda believable cover
This is one of my favorites!
''YOU DIDN'T CATCH ME'' while he's smoking a filter LOL, always get's me.
I love how they say "read the text" as if it's magically going to say something else, or like he can convince people who read them that they're illiterate or have poor reading comprehension. Or like Chris isn't smart enough to deduce what the guy is really saying. It's like OK, dude, you were just going to drop off the condoms and go on your merry way.... jackass.
That F necklace was just unfortunate lmaoo
F for Failure 😂
This was filmed in Michigan. We have legalized medical and recreational cannabis. However, this guy is a piece of work. I genuinely hope he got charges that stuck.
Weed is recreationally legal in Michigan now? Holy schnitz! Now I wish I still lived there!
probably not legal for a 15 year old though. a 49 year old lighting up w/ a 15 year old is weird.
It is disgusting how often it happens. No one actually knows HOW often. It happens with people met online, strangers, friends, and even family. And what’s most upsetting is that sometimes the victims will try to tell somebody what happened, and it basically gets swept under the rug.
I love that Ken and Dane keep posting these videos because it just brings more awareness. Thanks for what you guys do.
My favorite lie was when i found that my brother used my mom's credit card to buy himself a virtual amazon gift card of $500, and he even let us look at his amazon history because he's an idiot, and it was right there on the second page, and he was like, "someone else must have bought that and then put my name in it to frame me." i had to point out how stupid that sounded for like five minutes before he admitted what he'd done.
That guy is a hardened criminal. In most circumstances, I wouldn't even want to be in the same room with people like that anymore. I know because I've lived in bad neighbordhoods. He's got that look and he's a hard man. And he reacts like a convict. They know when they're caught and it's time to prepare a plausible court defense. This is a dangerous man who has hurt people in the past and will hurt them again.
💯 agree. Me too. I used to live around creeps like this and they used to try and play me. They're habitual liars, cons, and criminals. They think they can talk their way out of anything.
I love these cuz Dane is always so disgusted and offended by the dude and Ken is always like "Ew whats in the back ground?"
If he was really genuine and thought she needed money to stop doing child pr**titution, he could of sent her money through cash app or something. Then reported her profile to the website and the police.
1. Could have, of means from and just sounds vaguely similar
2. Yah and cops are too busy going after those they see as inferior and commit legal crimes to help anyone or stop crimes
😐@@Cassxowary
@@Cassxowary "commit legal crimes"
There was a recent one where a 30 year old guy waited outside an elementary school, where he claimed to be the father of one of the children that isn't his. He was caught with sleeping pills I believe, and or confessed to drugging kids. So you should cover that one because it's a crazy story and there's a huge twist in the follow up that's CRAZY
😶 what’s his name or where did you see it?
@HannahMatthau Ewu Bodycam made a video about that guy a few days ago! Its When a Child Predator Gets Caught in the Act (im pretty sure thats what its called)
Is that the guy that said he had drugged starbursts to give her? The story said he did have the candy, but they didn't test positive for a known substance. Regardless, I can't imagine how the police initially said they couldn't do anything despite all the steps the guy had done to impersonate a parent. I guess it only becomes attempted kidnapping if you put your hands on them--showing up with enough background research to reasonably pass for the parent and only getting denied because an official got suspicious doesn't clear the bar. They weren't really even interested in pursuing trespassing or even discuss a restraining order with the parents (a parent brought the subject up briefly).
@@buhhhhhhhhhh Yea that's right
@@rickyjanzen6684 Yea same guy
We all know that even IF he was really initially going to help financially, it is extremely unlikely that he would actually hold back if he saw a clear opening, like when he came to the house. He blew his whole argument by showing up after the decoy explicitly stated what they would do. I've seen too many of these weasels in my own life to give him the benefit of the doubt. He couldn't care less if she got hit by a bus, his ploy was all for his own gain, full-stop.
I wonder if he could lie to himself so much because he did feel bad for her.
"Oh it's terrible this little girl is selling her body. So sad. I am going to sleep with (rape) her. But it is sad."
@@lucystoner yeah, he might think it's "sad," and would still try to justify his own actions. My dad always told me that some guys (him being a prime example) will protect girls from everyone but themselves.
@@CoverLuxe So true! My gut feeling is that this is what's going on here.
I watch a lot of these stings across Facebook. The first thing they say is “assume we know everything you’ve ever said or done” but these predators still think there’s a grey area for them to talk their way out.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Colleen on one of these episodes
🤞🏼
“I’m not a groomer, I’m just a loser”
i hope so😂
the way Dane gets excited for possible tasing makes me laugh so hard everytime!
As someone who was assalted for a long period of time as a kid (around 3- 13) I just want to say these things stick in your head forever. To this day if somone pats me on the back pokes me or goes in for a hug when I’m not ready I still full body flinch
Poor Chris Hansen. This must weigh so heavy on him. A cause that never stops needing him. He's doing so amazing
Even when they don’t go with the ‘help’ angle, their first instinct is to always gaslight and blame the kids. “They asked me to bring the condoms; they wanted the drugs”, even after its clear the kid isn’t a real person (thank god)
It’s sick.
Ken's sick again, you know his kids just had a playdate. 😂
For real. Kids are living Petri dishes 😂
As someone who sold sx as a chld to adulthood, the big giveaway for me is that he didn’t chat more. The men I’ve meet who want to help you ask you more questions, usually want to talk on the phone.
He’s a usual john who knows how to get a meeting quick without a lot of chatting.
The funniest part is he really could just invoke his right to remain silent and say nothing and probably stand a better chance in court but he just keeps blabbing 🤣
Dude tried to gaslight his way out of the Chris Hanson interaction. “You didn’t catch me”
Jeff stalked me for over a year when I was around 12 years old. He was was friends with my mom's ex husband, after the divorce both men sent me sexually explicit messages and drove past my house among many other threatening behaviors. Throw the book at him.
I like how argumentative this guy's being here. It's more entertaining watching him scramble for an out than the dudes who just take a seat and start falling apart.
As a victim of CSA from age 6 to 12, I LOVE Ken and Dane. Ya'll give the shit that I was too scared to give. Two hot dads and their set-in-stone stuff to bust our creepy dudes. This channel is my happy place. 💝
How's she be able to take her post down with cash? It'd make more sense if it was like "hey, if you need money to take your post down, I'll send you an e-transfer because we live in an age where you can do that." Although he'd probably say "I came over to help make sure she knew how to complete the e-transfer."
Not everybody does e-transfers when it comes to money.
He is crazy aggressive…just me or did anyone else get creeped out how close he approached her immediately after opening the door?? Like she went into the hall and he was on her heels 😳 they HAD to push him back, he was about to pounce on that poor girl 1:54
This episode actually took place just south of where I live. Good to see Chris Hansen and the Genessee County Sherrif's department are out there protecting kids.
One of my favorite fan bases ever is Chris Hansen's fan base you got every type of person cheering and clapping to get creeps caught and away from children when ever he is on a show, podcast, or any other form of news and entertainment
If he was worried he could of gone to the police
1. Could have, of means from and just sounds vaguely similar
2. Cops are too busy going after people they see as inferior to help anyone
They definitely need to blur out the decoy's faces, because these decoys easily look 20+ which makes these criminals look even MORE DUMB!
"This is not a lifestyle for a 15 year old girl" Ah but it's okay for a 19 year old girl. And an 18 year old girl, I'm sure.
Child SA has always been far more common than most people think and still is. 😢
and the catholic church is happy to sweep it under the carpet
When you said Chris Hanson isn’t always there, made my heart drop 😭 this world is so sad
Just hearing what makes the shows, I can see why Chris just cuts to the chase, I couldn’t imagine what is said and cut from the show
The only way how Jeff would have been okay showing up there would been with ACTUAL Childprotection Service.
Could've agreed with him but when the decoy said "if we won't fvcking then don't come" and he still did, with condoms and weeds, him being a Samaritan is thrown out the window.
I haven't seen your content in literal years, and I just started bingeing these TCAP/HVSP reaction videos of yours, as a victim these are honestly therapeutic in a way. I've been suffering more mentally lately from the trauma that was caused by my assaulter/groomer, but watching you two dunk on gross guys helps ease me a little. I think it's also partially because I used to watch your channel a ton when I was younger, so it makes me feel safe? That's what I'd assume
As for the rest of your content, it's still really awesome just like how I remember ❤️ keep up the great work, guys
Gotta love that his argument when Chris told him how it was was just "You're wrong. You're absolutely wrong."
chris asked if he had weed, and he answered so quick, like "of course you tryin' to smoke!?"🤣
That stoner reflex
We don't claim him
He finished that smoke and you know he immediately needed another one after that conversation 😮
I will not tolerate red Faygo slander! It's the best one and it's downright magical when you're sick almost as good as Vernors. How dare you? LMAO. Anyway, I'm glad you guys are covering the new investigations as well as the classics. Put every child predator on blast! TASE EM!
Hah cotton candy is the best! And candy apple and popsicle and those!
@@CassxowaryBomb Pop is delicious and yes, Cotton Candy slaps especially if you've got something like fried chicken.
Faygo Redpop is a childhood classic.
If you are a good Samaritan - you don't go to the house yourself. You call the police. Send them to that address that the "minor" gives you. Be honest with the police and express your concerns.
Ken looked so traumatized after looking up the website.
The way they scream at each other I can’t 😂😂😂 “READ THE TEXTS!!” “I DO!!!!!”
I was just about to go to the store to grab something to eat... but a Ken video just dropped?? dang, I guess I gotta go in 20 minutes
“It’s good for you to explore yourself but please don’t share it with anyone until you’re 18. There are sites and therapists who can advise you. Good luck and take care.”
It’s that fking easy.
As a Jeff, we do not claim him 😂
You cannot deny the name alone is suspicious.
I live in the next town over and am in roughly the same age bracket. We also do not claim him.
godspeed jeffs
These kind of guys are the scariest, for the person they are preying on it seems like you owe them because they’ve been nothing but nice and caring. Pretending to be upset about age idk I know that it’s so easy to feel like you owe them something when they start off as such a nice person.
The excuses pedos like him give enrage me more when I think about how they’re protected in religious spaces, families, friendships, etc. People generally understand and know those people are pedos, but they overlook it for whatever “contribution” they may provide. It’s disgusting and incomprehensible how people who let pedos get away with such obvious lies live with themselves while victims have to suffer and be gaslit/accept these dangerous people in their lives.
You can tell that this guy suspected this was fake. It always amazes me how the desire of these pedos is stronger than the suspicion EVERY F!CKING TIME.
My favorite is when they ask him about the weed, he admits to smoke with his own underage kid.
Poor Jeff didn't know that no kid who cares about their well-being that would say "of course we can smoke in the house."
The Australian FBI is watching Ken now after looking up that website that the dude was meeting the girl on 🤣😰 lol … “Alright no games”
"I'm still on the loose baby, here we go!" Dane makes me smile every time. He should have a job cheering people up.
Dude didn’t just come with “some” weed, he had a mason jar of that shit lol
“you can’t help nobody with a red faygo” had me cackling 💀💀
Most dating sites have a way to report underage users if they really wanted to help they would just do that not show up at their house
“I’m here to protect her.” Bro she needs to be protected from YOU
Im surprised they let him continue to have his cigarette inside for so long. He wasn't even toking on it the whole time. Lmao
What a nice and generous man just trying to help
Chris is so done with everything about these men😂😅
When he started saying that he would escort a person doing the same thing of the property and physically assault them, I think he realized how he just fucked up.
He's literally saying that if someone else did this he would assume that they had bad intentions like he was obviously having regardless of denying it.
finally more chris hansen!! i’m in love with the series
The casual, "Yeah I got a little weed." was so funny for no reason😂💀
I’m sure is was “”coming”” to help that was exactly his plan for sure - we live in a society
Buff: “you can’t help nobody with a red faygo”
This made me laugh so hard 😅