Can't believe I called the matador drop right as the game was finishing.. currently using it and omg it's amazing! Enjoy the video and make sure you go buy the palindrome!
Use aggressive on the matador because it will be max range w/ reinforced so the negative range on aggressive won't affect the range but you will still get the impact bonus👌👍
JJ Playz Games I'd say almost. Full auto is pretty much useless. But the other three perks are WAAAAY more important. Reinforced is superior to Rifled on the Matador since Aggressive Balistics already drops the stability to nothing. I'd say 9.5 out of 10. The only thing better would be to swap full auto for performance bonus. :)
I've been using my god roll Eyasluna with Truesight, Rangefinder, Rifled Barrel and Hidden Hand --- not sure if I should really buy this one, you think the extra aim assist and recoil direction would be enough for me to get that extra edge?
mate I have rifled, sureshot, rangefinder on my eyasluna. bought the palindrome this morning and immediately noticed more shots were connecting and I was getting way more kills :D
i had it in year 1 with rangefinder, agressive and reinforced barrel. i now have it in year 3 and mine has 1 range perk; rangefinder. the one i had dropping for me b4 that had no range perks but is still beastly. i havent leveled up the rangefinder one and i know its gonna be broken
Priimze in patch 2.4 they took away the extra spread on full auto shotguns with the exception of Invective. I guess they were afraid of Invective becoming too good is my guess otherwise why would they leave that one shotgun out. I wish Bungie would've given a reason in the patch notes as to why they left out Invective.
Reinforced and rifled gives you the same range and they cancel out the range loss from aggressive ballistics allowing for you to get a max range and impact on your shotgun
Wow I got virtually the same. But reinforced barrel and sureshot. Great in pve and pvp. So glad I didn't spend the marks on the vendor roll before getting it
do you think that a palindrome with rangefinder rifled barrel and either outlaw or icarus is better than a palindrome with litc and outlaw with rifled barrel?
I've gotten 3 Matadors haven't played a lot of crucible 1. Aggressive, performance bonus, rifled & final round 2. Same as 1 but no aggressive. 3. full auto, rifled & range finder
my ill will has rifled barrel and hammer forged along with braced frame, but hammer forged has the same range maxing it out with rangefinder and mulligan
Palindrome has 1 more range than eyasluna. And I got a ill will with range finder and rifled barrel with third eye and was wondering if it was competitive in the current meta knowing it has a slower fire rate like First Curse.
I never realised the Palindrome/Ophidian Aspect combo was so amazing. I will be putting it on my Warlock with the Days of Iron armour, which is speced for Hand Cannons anyway, and going to town on some folk. I will also be putting on the Memory of Gheleon when it comes out next week and that way I will also have full radar all of the time.
That's a god roll matador. I've been searching high and low for one with performance bonus, reinforced barrel/rifled barrel, aggressive ballistics and then crowd control. You'll be poppin two peices like no other
Which Eyasluna is better? I have one with range finder, luck in the chamber and hammer forged. My 2nd one has reactive reload outlaw and rifled barel. Please let me know when u have the chance. Thanks
This is the first hand cannon i've used and the only one i've ever taken with me to pvp.. I normally use pulse or scout rifles but this gun is making me like hand cannons.
This gun is so good, got one with sureshot is, hotswap, spray n play, and hammer forged and Litc. only thing thats missing is rifled but its still amazing.
I'm probably going to stick to my eyasluna and lord high fixer. I'm low on marks and lord has 90 recoil direction and I have true sight, spray and play, rifled barrel and grenadier
+nKuch Could you tell me your opinion of the Free Will III, the New Monarchy handcannon? I want to try it in the crucible, but would like a second opinion before buying it. Thanks for your time.
I'm might stick to my eyasluna too. I have true sight/ sure shot, range finder, rifled barrel, and luck in the chamber. The only reason I want the new gun is because the recoil direction. If I ever get a random drop from that gun with luck in the chamber I'll definitely main it in crucible.
I got it from a package with the same exact perks that has the one they're selling, I player 3 with my godroll eyasluna (Riffled barrel, hiddenhand and rangefinder) and i really like my eyaslune better, but the Free will also melts people, it feels so light and so smooth three tapping people... I really recommend it if you don't have a godroll luna, I think is better if you just farm it.
I just tonight got a Truesight/Outlaw/Rifled Barrel/Reactive Reload from a blue a Cryptarch rank-up gave me. For me, Hidden Hand would've made it the perfect Trials killer, but beggars can't be choosers right? Probably gonna stick to my Grasp or ye old MIDA.
Watching in 2021 cause Pali just came back to Destiny 2 and man this made me nostalgic. I never even played D1 crucible that much but man this was cool to watch
would like to play with you someday man u r great watched ur last tournament and u did pretty good against those other good destiny players great stuff
Watching this, it just reaffirms in my mind that I much prefer more severe range drop off to ghost bullets. I value consistency above all else, in a weapon.
kucher mah man, the matador with reinforced + aggressive > rifled + aggressive because either way you get stability and same range. Tho with reinforced you get to keep your reload :3 I have aggressive, reinforced, performance bonus, and close/personal
Don't use it honestly. They nerfed it again and legendary hand cannons are better anyway. Use a rifled Luna or vendor palindrome. They're way better. Or just use a pulse like hawksaw or red death, those two are great guns as well
I got one with hiddenhand hammer forged and icarus it's sooooo nasty. I'm a night stalker using felwinters artifact. it's all about mobility and this doesn't punish me for it at all.
Make a vid on that matador 64 it's a life changing role I would kill for that roll and fun fact, reinforced barrel gives you more range than rifled barrel it doesn't show it when you compare but if you look on the bungie website it does. Keep up the good work nKuch
Omfg you are An amazing crucible player. I like how you stay calm and talk to the viewer. Really feels like you're informing us and teaching at the same time. Great work man!
Can't believe I called the matador drop right as the game was finishing.. currently using it and omg it's amazing! Enjoy the video and make sure you go buy the palindrome!
I got the same roll matador rise of iron day 1
Surprisingly i have not gone against one yet, but i know of it. The palindrome
Did you speed up the gameplay a bit? It's seems a little fast in my opinion
Do you plan on making any videos on the new raid weapons?
The matador is so op I got mine with same rolls as u but one
Use aggressive on the matador because it will be max range w/ reinforced so the negative range on aggressive won't affect the range but you will still get the impact bonus👌👍
well spoken
thanks for ruining my life everytime i get killed by a mappador. really appreciate that
I got a matador on my third game of ROI and it dropped with range finder, hammer forged, and performance bonus.
Inferior to rifled/reinforced since you can't hit max range and max impact with aggressive ballistics. :/ so close...
my matador dropped with aggressive ballistics, full auto, reinforced barrel and rangefinder its a god roll right?
JJ Playz Games I'd say almost. Full auto is pretty much useless. But the other three perks are WAAAAY more important. Reinforced is superior to Rifled on the Matador since Aggressive Balistics already drops the stability to nothing. I'd say 9.5 out of 10. The only thing better would be to swap full auto for performance bonus. :)
k thx man
You can't get a full auto and rangefinder roll on shotties JJ... Their in the same perk column
I've been using my god roll Eyasluna with Truesight, Rangefinder, Rifled Barrel and Hidden Hand --- not sure if I should really buy this one, you think the extra aim assist and recoil direction would be enough for me to get that extra edge?
Yes. It's totally worth the marks.
mate I have rifled, sureshot, rangefinder on my eyasluna. bought the palindrome this morning and immediately noticed more shots were connecting and I was getting way more kills :D
I admit it, watching nkuch playing some crucible matches kinda make me feeling relaxed AF
Yes! I got a Matador today with smooth ballistics, rangefinder, reinforced barrel or hammer forged, and spray and play!
Hey nKuch, you probably won't reply to this but I was just wondering what shader you are using? By the way great videos keep it up!
John Fitzmaurice the shader he's wearing is "anahata"
thanks
Dude matador with a range perk and aggressive ballistics is broken, it's soo good
Also shotguns don't need stability lol
i had it in year 1 with rangefinder, agressive and reinforced barrel. i now have it in year 3 and mine has 1 range perk; rangefinder. the one i had dropping for me b4 that had no range perks but is still beastly. i havent leveled up the rangefinder one and i know its gonna be broken
my matador dropped with aggressive ballistics, full auto, reinforced barrel and rangefinder its a god roll right?
ye but the full auto is ruining it a bit.
Priimze in patch 2.4 they took away the extra spread on full auto shotguns with the exception of Invective. I guess they were afraid of Invective becoming too good is my guess otherwise why would they leave that one shotgun out. I wish Bungie would've given a reason in the patch notes as to why they left out Invective.
Reinforced and rifled gives you the same range and they cancel out the range loss from aggressive ballistics allowing for you to get a max range and impact on your shotgun
i got a palindrome w/ truesight, outlaw, riffled barrel, and reactive reload, should i use it or the vendor version?
I recommend you try that one out and then see if you like t or not, if you like that one don't waste the marks but if you don't try the other one
Wow, good drop! Personally, I would use your roll. I'm in love with outlaw and reactive reload is not bad at all.
use that
I'm so jelly
Wow I got virtually the same. But reinforced barrel and sureshot. Great in pve and pvp. So glad I didn't spend the marks on the vendor roll before getting it
god roll matador is rangefinder rifled and replenish, reinforced works too and either aggressive or accurized
do you think that a palindrome with rangefinder rifled barrel and either outlaw or icarus is better than a palindrome with litc and outlaw with rifled barrel?
I've gotten 3 Matadors haven't played a lot of crucible
1. Aggressive, performance bonus, rifled & final round
2. Same as 1 but no aggressive.
3. full auto, rifled & range finder
my ill will has rifled barrel and hammer forged along with braced frame, but hammer forged has the same range maxing it out with rangefinder and mulligan
The pause on that first second of the video was the best LOL, keep up the great work
Palindrome has 1 more range than eyasluna. And I got a ill will with range finder and rifled barrel with third eye and was wondering if it was competitive in the current meta knowing it has a slower fire rate like First Curse.
I had just listened to his old intro song, and was wondering if he still uses it.
I never realised the Palindrome/Ophidian Aspect combo was so amazing. I will be putting it on my Warlock with the Days of Iron armour, which is speced for Hand Cannons anyway, and going to town on some folk. I will also be putting on the Memory of Gheleon when it comes out next week and that way I will also have full radar all of the time.
I think I'll stay with my luna. It's got range finder luck in the chamber and the stat that increases range and lowers stability
lucky I got true sight, range finder rifled & Grenadier. If I had luck I'd shit myself
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My matador has performance bonus, reinforced/rifled and rangefinder. Sadly no aggressive ballistics.
+nKuch Do you plan on making any videos on the new raid weapons?
That's a god roll matador. I've been searching high and low for one with performance bonus, reinforced barrel/rifled barrel, aggressive ballistics and then crowd control. You'll be poppin two peices like no other
i got a matador with performance bonus, both rifled and reinforced barrel to choose between and range finder. things a beast
nKuch what armor are you using cause it looks badass. Also whatès the difference between party crasher & matador?
Which Eyasluna is better? I have one with range finder, luck in the chamber and hammer forged. My 2nd one has reactive reload outlaw and rifled barel. Please let me know when u have the chance. Thanks
hey, +nKuch why us it that you go in and out of ADS while shooting? I noticed you do that frequently.
This is the first hand cannon i've used and the only one i've ever taken with me to pvp.. I normally use pulse or scout rifles but this gun is making me like hand cannons.
My first crucible match in RoI gave me a matador with accurized bal. cascade ranger finder and rifled barrel
NKUCH I'm a big fan. Did you make a video highlighting just the Matador? I would love to see you go Warrior! Cheers!
Kuch how are you blinking on stormcaller?
i got a matador with reinforced barrel / rifled barrel/hammer forged , cascade and close and/or personal !
This gun is so good, got one with sureshot is, hotswap, spray n play, and hammer forged and Litc. only thing thats missing is rifled but its still amazing.
I'm probably going to stick to my eyasluna and lord high fixer. I'm low on marks and lord has 90 recoil direction and I have true sight, spray and play, rifled barrel and grenadier
Spray and play and grenadier aren't very good for pvp, give the gun a shot you never know!
I'll try to get some marks then.
+nKuch Could you tell me your opinion of the Free Will III, the New Monarchy handcannon? I want to try it in the crucible, but would like a second opinion before buying it. Thanks for your time.
I'm might stick to my eyasluna too. I have true sight/ sure shot, range finder, rifled barrel, and luck in the chamber. The only reason I want the new gun is because the recoil direction. If I ever get a random drop from that gun with luck in the chamber I'll definitely main it in crucible.
I got it from a package with the same exact perks that has the one they're selling, I player 3 with my godroll eyasluna (Riffled barrel, hiddenhand and rangefinder) and i really like my eyaslune better, but the Free will also melts people, it feels so light and so smooth three tapping people... I really recommend it if you don't have a godroll luna, I think is better if you just farm it.
Your opponents had a major "fear aura" going in that momento match - they were playing so cautious, like they knew you could be around every corner
my first matador 64 droped with rifled barrel and range finder. plus aggressive balls and cascade. super good roll. Loving it!
I pulled one today that was, outlaw, reinforced barrel and hidden hand. Should I use the vendor roll one?
Is there a reason why you keep scoping in and out in fire fights with the hand cannon?
I just tonight got a Truesight/Outlaw/Rifled Barrel/Reactive Reload from a blue a Cryptarch rank-up gave me. For me, Hidden Hand would've made it the perfect Trials killer, but beggars can't be choosers right? Probably gonna stick to my Grasp or ye old MIDA.
hey nkuch is this a god roll palindrome?
steady hand is
outlaw
reinforced barrel
luck in the chamber
Watching in 2021 cause Pali just came back to Destiny 2 and man this made me nostalgic. I never even played D1 crucible that much but man this was cool to watch
would like to play with you someday man u r great watched ur last tournament and u did pretty good against those other good destiny players great stuff
my matador dropped with aggressive ballistics, full auto, reinforced barrel and rangefinder its a god roll right?
is a matador with rifled barrel and rangefinder a God roll?
Watching this, it just reaffirms in my mind that I much prefer more severe range drop off to ghost bullets. I value consistency above all else, in a weapon.
Definitely want to see a matador video, that shotty is insane
How do you capture your commentary? Via the elgato or an enternal software?
i got a matador with rangefinder, full auto and hammer forged. is there anything better than hammer forged in that column?
I got a matador with field choke, rifled barrel, and spray and play. Not bad.
My Matador has hammer forged, rifled barrel and reinforced barrel, which one is better as they all have the same stats?
I got a soft ballistic, reinforced barrel, performance bonus, and rangefinder, Matador 64. My first game of Rise of Iron!
I got 2 matador one with rangefinder and hammer forged and one with crowd control and rifled barrel
Today, I got an Ill Will with sure shot is, range finder, rifled barrel, and hidden hand. I was so happy.
Maybe it was third eye instead of hidden hand, but it's still amazing.
same but with luck in the chamber. destiny 2 is here and I'm still reloading...
+Brandonwesker011 lol
Hey I got one with identical perks except for the last one where it has luck in the chamber. Better or worse?
I'm really surprised I'm not seeing this everywhere. It reminds me of Hawkmoon but it's somehow even more consistent.
will you use it in tournaments?
When you said you couldn't believe the range on that weapon, did you mean your melee or the palindrome?
kucher mah man, the matador with reinforced + aggressive > rifled + aggressive because either way you get stability and same range. Tho with reinforced you get to keep your reload :3 I have aggressive, reinforced, performance bonus, and close/personal
I have the same shot gun but with rifled barrel and range finder is it good I don't shot gun That much I would love feed back thank you
What is so good about the matador???? I wasn't here for year 1
whats better, explosive rounds or +8 or so range?
hey bro how would you compare my eysluna with has sureshot, spray and prey, rifled and hidden hand with the palindrome?
I got one with relentless tracker, hammer forged, rangefinder and sure shot is
ever since I came back for RoI, there's so many shotguns in the crucible it's ridiculous. I can't even snipe without someone rushing from the corner
i got the same matador 64 but with rangefinder instead of crowd control
You got a god roll matador, also rifled barrel and reinforced barrel give the same amount of range
i got in crucible the impuls rifle :/. it got Rangefinder Fullauto and a perk which decreases the stability a bit :-]. is that any good?
I got the year 3 thorn and it is amazing but I can't hit any shots with it, any tips?
Don't use it honestly. They nerfed it again and legendary hand cannons are better anyway. Use a rifled Luna or vendor palindrome. They're way better. Or just use a pulse like hawksaw or red death, those two are great guns as well
Aim for the body first then spray if you want you should get a kill in about 3 bullets
I got a matador with range finder, reinforced barrel, and full auto is that a god roll?
I got one with hiddenhand hammer forged and icarus it's sooooo nasty. I'm a night stalker using felwinters artifact. it's all about mobility and this doesn't punish me for it at all.
Make a vid on that matador 64 it's a life changing role I would kill for that roll and fun fact, reinforced barrel gives you more range than rifled barrel it doesn't show it when you compare but if you look on the bungie website it does. Keep up the good work nKuch
I have an Ill Will with luck in the chamber snapsot clown cartridge and sureshot IS
My eyasluna has the exact same perks should i still get the palindrome??
Dude you went the hell off with that combo! I'd love a matador video! Keep up the great content and don't get lost in the sauce!
Mine has Hidden Hand and Triple Tap with hammer forged is that better then this roll?
Yo nKuch!
last monitor is in the Diamond looking Siva thing before the final encounter you can see it through the cracks!
I'll tweet it out to you!
Omfg you are An amazing crucible player. I like how you stay calm and talk to the viewer. Really feels like you're informing us and teaching at the same time. Great work man!
nkuch you gotta use reinforced with aggressive
i know he's awesone but is that gun that good or does he make it look that easy?
nKuch PLEASE make a video about best crucible subclasses for hunter!!!
I remember in year 1 I went I'll will and felwinters lie it's basic lyrics like like mandator and plindrome
Can eyaluna still drop from crucible ?
nkuch what sensitivity do you play on
got the same roll as the vendor but except muligain, i got outlaw and sureshot
I have never used a matador before. What do you say nkuch, is it that big of a difference from a party crasher?
The matador has less fire rate and higher impact, and I'm pretty sure more range by a small bit and less reload than the PC
its pretty much the same but you have better chances of getting a god roll matador.
Nkuch did your hunter take a vacation, where he at tho
Did u do the raid yet?
how can the matador be a god roll without rangefinder? i like field choke too
I have a roll where it is triple tap rifled barrel and luck in the chamber is that a good roll
Review the matador, and compare it with last ditch pls. I'm wondering why people are hating on the ld
dude you're a beast keep up the good work and the positive attitude
I have an eyasluna with sure shot, rangefinder, rifled barrel, and luck in ten chamber, but I wish I had outlaw
I got one with the same roll except I have outlaw instead of mulligan.
I have a rifled aggressive or accurized id remember as well as range finder rifled barrel and performance bonus on my PC +1
But I solely snipe
+nKuch what sensitivity do you use?
I got matador with aggressive ballistics/ performance bonus/ rifled barrel/ and rangefinder
Also two longbows drop for me today
+Julius Anacleto dropped*
I got a matador with a range finder and spray and play but no range in middle perks :|
I have hidden hand instead of range finder. And this gun kicks ass!
You guys have clearly not used the Felwinters after TTK, Shit is so incosistent,
@Evil Red Umm what...?
+Evil Red
Kewl 👍👍👍
Oh that's strange, Previous comment was not supposed to go in this thread. Sorry ^
how are ppl able to shotgun using sensitive 3? it feels so slow for me...
Got one to drop with hidden hand rifled barrel, pretty great gun.
What shader are you wearing nKuch?