HKS Supercharged GR86 Review - Better Than A Turbo Kit?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ธ.ค. 2024
- Today we have our customer Johnny's 2023 Toyota GR86 in the shop for the infamous RTV in the oil pick-up issue, and good thing we caught it when we did! We also wanted to give this ride a test drive/review as this 86 has a HKS Supercharger kit installed which really intrigued us! Tell us what you think!
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RTV isnt the issue it the oil pressure drop in right hand turns...even if the main oil pick up vent is clogged it has side ports to circumvent the issue. There is no 100% determined engine failures strictly from rtv.
VERUS oil pan has been proven to get rid of almost all of the pressure drop, even on a track
@ send link to testing
Rtv is still an obvious issue to fix…
@ it’s really not. If you take it off and reseal it you may put enough that it breaks off again anyway. I’m not worrying about mine but I don’t track my brz.
they irony was they expected brake/fade to get ppl off track before they could ever be ON enough to encounter an OIL issue SMDH. Better fluid or lines and UH ohs skettios. Some classic USDM consumer grade stuff.
I've had a sprintex supercharger then switched over to a JDL turbo kit on my old 2018 BRZ, within a year. Turbo is the way to go of efficiency over supercharger and I just ordered a JDL turbo kit on my 24 BRZ
What was the difference in efficiency? Better MPG?
Ur a legend. How was the turbo reliability on the 2018 BRZ?
@Dholi1 reliability is all on the tuner!
what's your reason for the preference of turbo? i'm leaning towards supercharger as the install seems significantly easier (no replacing headers [which i already have upgraded] or having to drop/replace the oil pan) and it seems to be, on average, cheaper than turbo kit. i do think turbo would make the car more enjoyable due to the turbo lag putting you back in your seat, but i think the added power from the supercharger would make this car more enjoyable to drive.
@MichaelSikorski-d8f efficiency is why I switched over to turbo. I can switch MAPs for increase boost pressure without having to change out pulleys. I didn't have to sorry about turbo lag, just depends on the size of the turbo you get. Also supercharger (roots) are generally generates more hot air
3:30 good news the 25 has the other kind of turn signal action so retrofits should be coming
Thank god!
Also there is a setting in the car's menus to make it act like a traditional turn signal
That's good news, since I'm waiting on my 2025 86 coming this late December.
That rear diffuser and light combo, what is it? Take my money ...
I have a Sprintex on my 2022 BRZ. Perfect for daily driving IMO. I get 28mpg commuting to work, down One from pre-supercharger. I've a quite a few turbo cars and just wanted to experience a supercharger. With the supercharger, you always have more power. If you step on it, it jumps.
I have a supra, but I personally like the design of the GR86 more. It's one of the more complete designs out there.
So true, the Supra is cool as far as drivetrain/performance, but we feel the style is just a touch better on the 86
It's hard to describe. But the Supra is a more photogenic car. Looks nicer in pictures, but looks a bit off in person. The GR86 doesn't look as good in pictures, but looks better in person.
It's about proportions I think, kinda like people. I have friends who are really photogenic, but don't look as good in person. Like the cheekbones make them aesthetic in pics. But in person they look too sunken and a bit malnourished.
Sometimes all you need is just a little more kick coming out of a corner. Cars like this wont compete on the highway with most modern cars over 300whp+, but it'll be great around a technical track or twisties where it is probably run majority of its time on the road anyways! I think they look good and are a more modern, appealing version of a Miata. I had a 300whp 1991 miata..drastically changes the car when you put the power band that high in the RPMs and it takes away from the fun of the naturally aspirated set up it had from factory. I had a supercharged 2.0 Ecotec and my Cavalier ripped under 120mph with about 300whp, but mine was a twin screw and screamed like a banshee at WOT. Was fun, but now I have a 500whp Focus ST (2016) and its all around great, but FWD wouldnt be 'as fun' to drive as a lower powered GR86 to be honest, Id love to drive this car in this video! Both great in their own way! Plus my FoST is also Red with black theme, so i like the way this GR86 looks!
supercharger are better for reponse and heat purpose.
Great review and nice spec
Thanks you!
Centrifugal supercharger like the HKS makes power on mid to high rpm. They need to be needs to be revved to get the most out of it. They are differents to screw type blower that feels like a bigger motor because of the added torque at low rpm.
i mean at least this engine has a better low end torque curve pre/boost. IMO it makes more sense to run this HKS on the FA24 than the 20. Plus you can also run UEL headers....but idk what combination of blower/supercharger and tune could even make the most of that setup. TBH for a street/able car id still say UEL + supercharger isnt a bad idea if youre willing to lose a lil power up top....if a street/etc cant really offer that/much rev-range etc or even certain tracks. If youre trying to hit a max/trap speed on straights...id still like the peak in low end bc the UEL and the SC pulling it into the top end. From a driving characteristic etc it would definitely drive/feel like a much different car/tune than most. But it would probably still need ideal/custom gearing to maximize the power-band of a build/tune like that. Its definitely crossed my mind. I mean compared to a roots style where heat soak can already cut off/kneecap peak power. Idk how much it would take/cost to ideally tune a fa24 with a centrifugal and UEL headers...but it sounds like a good/match.
@@anhiirr you are right. Fa24+centrifugal SC is a very good match for the gr86 power band. Because of the low-end torque. For the fa20, you might need to help it a little with either a uel or a shorter final drive. I have a gen1 BRZ manual. I just put a tune and 4.88 FD and a hks exhaust. Very satisfied by the result. Kept it NA. Very reliable car and fun setup if you don't need high top speed. It maxes out at 240 kph or 149 mph.
@@ronaldsanpedro4338 yeah i figured the only way to finalize the top end would be a modded or different final drive but TBF im not personally willing to DROP/invest that much into a build or consider buying into it....outside of a couple years down the road when the used market is more frugal/viable or ideally finding one that was relatively babied/cared for from some mid life crisis "BUY" thats now ready to move on/uprgrade...where us/second hand buyers come into play. HELL if there was a DCT mod ATP it also makes some sense too for a FD or a custom gearing application. And DEFINITEY in regards to top/speed/track use...im 150% vested towards highly USABLE streetable power ATP
Did you had it custom tuned? I know HKS offers a running solution in Japan but the module is like another
$1400
Cool build. Lose those gaudy wheels
Have you tried doing 0-100 ?
Bro what’s the body kit 🥵
what kind bodykit is on the car interested for my own personal build
You don't see any new cars in western NY.
what diffuser are those?
Wheel and tire setup ??????
Shout out Western new york 🤟 got a 10th anniversary will be turboing soon
Where you found the rear bumper?
That's robot craftsmans rear bumper
Why aren’t there more builders putting the intended supercharger into this car.
Cuz the shits like $6,000 and I have a gr86 lmao
Those are Konig countergram not hypergram
Ok, supercharger cool, but where is that reverse lockout lever from? Is that the red Beatrush one?? lol (but srsly)
Owner if the car here, it's the billetworkz short throw
@@bobatea8048are you on any of the GR/BRZ Facebook groups? I have a pavement 2024 GR86 I'm in Colorado
@@bobatea8048 Hey, thanks! Sweet 86! Been looking for a blue reverse lockout for my BRZ. Thank you.
@@bobatea8048 hey, which diffuser are you using? its sick!
@@bobatea8048 whats the hp numbers on this?
What rear bumper is this?
It's the robot craftsman narrowbody rear bumper
what's the dyno numbers? what's the SC add? becuse it looks slow
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No supercharger sound's
Centrifugal superchargers built boost with rpm. So yeah you are leaving something on table if your not revenge it out
wtf i hate when i don't revenge it out
@@Chilicharger665 Wait till you get the revengeance upgrade
What does revenge it out mean?
@@ZenithZara97Typo for "revving"
I want to see some data on centrifugal with UEL headers. Roots already suffers from heat soak/power loss on the high end...so possibly UEL/top end trade off but a low end peak and HUGE mid range combo/tune with UEL and a CENTRIFUGAL seems like a hoot esp with a custom rear end/gearing XD. Sounds like a lot of investment to make that work...but equally huge gains with streetable torque from low end to peak/power ranges.
Dont these new ones blow up like super often?
Nah, people blow it out of proportion. It’s more reliable than the previous generation. But do keep in mind it is still a Subaru motor with high compression. General consensus rn is that you don’t want to go past 500hp on these things, that’s when they start blowing up
All subaru owners have engine budget set aside of course. For STI owners, you have an account in your bank labeled "short block" ...
@@fengrr Lol, nice. I am not about that life
@@Al4108 Good to know, just curious. These new ones are far better than the old ones IMO.
@@foxxrider250r Oh ya for sure. They're way quicker and could produce way more power reliably
Some numbers... any numbers would have been great.
Watch out, i think Toyota are going to fit the 3 cylinder 1.6 turbo to this car very soon. 300bhp,, 4 wheel drive. Will be interesting 😊
think is a ticking time bomb fa24 way better motor
That's never going to happen as long as the Supra exists.
@@jonscott5317it’s been known for a while they are not making them for much longer, flopped in the market.