I can tell someone with abandonment issues wrote this Bad End. Because it hit home the exact feelings I have. Begging people to stay because you're afraid of being alone. You're afraid of falling into bad habits alone but "hey if ive got someone by my side it's not drinking alone anymore lmao!" Like. It hit so hard.
@@calcium9668 You teleport to Adult Roses house despite her strictly telling you not to. Roxy sees her for a split second, but your teleporting alerts the Condense and she attacks the house(which was supposed to be hidden). Before the Condense can kill you and Roxy you zap back to Roxy's time. The sad part is that once you do this, Roxys house is 3 times as empty as it was before, because Rose ended up dying before she could prepare the house for Roxy so it's all empty and broken down. The MS paint reader starts to blame themselves and their powers, but Roxy quickly chimes in and says this was all her fault for asking you to take her there even after her mom said not to do that. MSPA reader insists that they're at fault and that it would be better if they just left everyone alone, but Roxy literally has no one else to even talk to or hang out with at this point so she begs him to stay practically in tears. She then finds some alchohol and insist that she can give the MSPA a fun time and that everything''s really fine. They both drink themselves stupid and the route ends. Really sad.
Does anyone else remember while reading Homestuck the fear that Doggy Jack brought? And now just looking back you think of how much of a wimp he is compared to older Caliborn?
Meh. English did jack shit, pun not intended, if you think about it. Like, honestly, all he did is kill a buncha ghosts and AH, and then got eaten by his dead sister, who is actually way cooler than him. And then there's Ultimate Dirk, who also barely did anything, yet is already a x1000 better villain than english.
@@arfirik He wrote himself as the villain to feel like a badass, but didn't actually have any villainous aspirations so he got bored and wrote in his own demise
I still like jack better. With english, we didn't get to see much of him. And when we did, we usually knew what he was going to do. Jack had more personality, and was unpredictable. One second he's killing sleeping trolls, the next he cuts to the chase and destroys Derse. One second he's sad about Jade's death, the next, he attempts to kill the entire universe. He was almost scary, because we never knew what he was going to do. There was always that sense of anticipation when he was onscreen.
@@arfirik “English did Jack shit.” You remember how every event in Homestuck was a butterfly effect made by him to assure his birth? How he completely had influence over the alpha timeline?
I see a lot of people saying this song makes them sad, and I get it, but personally I always found this song to have an almost meditative quality to it. Sure, there's sadness and loss in there, but there's also hope. The title of the track, Even In Death, implies that even in the face of something as final and all consuming as death there's something to continue, be it a mission, or a personal goal, or even just growth. Even in Death, things go on
"It would be better if she hated you." Rough quoting, but damn man this breaks my heart. Roxy is the homestuck kid I kin to the hardest, not because of abandonment or alcoholism but because of void-player identity, and awareness, being the only person in the room aware of the quiet part no one's saying, wanting to say it all out loud, wanting people to notice you when you say it! Wishing you were as obvious to everyone else as they are to you. Her good route warmed my soul because I felt absolutely seen as a void player, getting to go with her on a big hill watching a sunset, the small but meaningful gestures, the honest conversation about a deeply affecting personal topic. This route... Alpha Rose isn't a bad mom, she's just a woman faced with imminent destruction, a fate she can't escape. And the alcohol in her house, obviously it wasn't for Roxy to find or drink, it was for Rose to cope with. And the fact that's all that was left for Roxy when you two returned to the future hurts so much. Rose drank her woes away, and now you two have nothing better to do with yourselves but the same.
I don't really feel so. That theme utters pure despair and no going back, but this sounds like it has a trace of hope in it, the failure is not so certain
My friend and i were playing the game and got this ending, we were gonna end it after thst but immediately kept going "go back. Fix it. We gotta fix it" so we had to play again becsuse we felt so bad
@@cupcake769 dirk os ok but sometimes he is to much and other times he is just bleh , but Jake he is just anoyng the guy just cries and is a terrible friend
@@samuel-rw3xthe means well though. He's just a kid who's lonely, without a guardian, like the others, he just chose to cope it in ways that weren't healthy, and he's just not good at picking up social cues. Idk I think Jake is ok, he just gets shat on by everyone at the end of the day
Yall idk wtf you’re talking about with “routes” and im still quite confused about if Pesterquest is canon, like does it continue the end of the original homestuck?
no, it's a different timeline from homestuck and is a continuation from friendsim. friendsim is apart of the canon timeline to hiveswap but pesterquest is a timeline on its own!
@@af3897 They are, however, as confirmed at the end of pesterquest's true ending with MSPAR, they represent a 3rd divergent timeline, the "Locked" (Suggested to be Pumpkin) timeline in which SBURB never affects their lives
@@willowoodz i thiink hiveswap takes place in the beta kids' timeline actually. jake takes care of roxy, and then she babysits joey/jude until she moves and then starts taking care of rose, and then a few years later the events of homestuck begin
I swear when i was watching Disenchatment some part of the music (not the theme, but a song played for a certain scene, i wish i could find it) sounded a lot like the violin part, does it sample bits of another song like some kind of sea shanty??
I can tell someone with abandonment issues wrote this Bad End.
Because it hit home the exact feelings I have. Begging people to stay because you're afraid of being alone. You're afraid of falling into bad habits alone but "hey if ive got someone by my side it's not drinking alone anymore lmao!"
Like.
It hit so hard.
i agree. Lmfao actually one time my online mom abbandoned me! For no reason ^^
Your comment made me cry
when she started crying and begged me to stay by her side i swear i went feral
SAME HNRGGGGG
Honestly.
"Alright time to abuse my powers and get Rose."
guys why are my eyes cosplaying the ocean
Dude why are my eyes cosplaying waterfalls
gang why are my eyes cosplaying equius
Damn when this song came in on her route by the end I legit wanted to cry shit was wild
I didn't watch the route, what happened?
@@calcium9668 shit went down, we got momrose killed by taking roxy to see her
@@calcium9668 You teleport to Adult Roses house despite her strictly telling you not to. Roxy sees her for a split second, but your teleporting alerts the Condense and she attacks the house(which was supposed to be hidden). Before the Condense can kill you and Roxy you zap back to Roxy's time. The sad part is that once you do this, Roxys house is 3 times as empty as it was before, because Rose ended up dying before she could prepare the house for Roxy so it's all empty and broken down.
The MS paint reader starts to blame themselves and their powers, but Roxy quickly chimes in and says this was all her fault for asking you to take her there even after her mom said not to do that. MSPA reader insists that they're at fault and that it would be better if they just left everyone alone, but Roxy literally has no one else to even talk to or hang out with at this point so she begs him to stay practically in tears. She then finds some alchohol and insist that she can give the MSPA a fun time and that everything''s really fine. They both drink themselves stupid and the route ends. Really sad.
Condesce*
abigail grommet it just instantly filled me with dread when it started fr
I'm just gonna admit it. I fucking cried when this song came and Roxy begged MSPA Reader not to leave her. I just.........
When she panicked my entire heart went [insert earth shattering loudness of heart breaking]
im glad they used this song in this game, i always really liked this song and was hoping it would get some kind remix
this remix is like 5 years old
This remix was used in [S] ACT 6 ACT 4.
HooooooooooohoooooooooooohoooooooooohooooooooohooooohoôooooooooooooohoooooooooholooooooooooooooOooOOoooooooooooooooooo
I THOUGHT THIS WAS A HAPPY GAME ABOUT FRIENDSHIP
THIS IS NOT HAPPY
THIS IS WORST END
no, worst end is pesterquest
Does anyone else remember while reading Homestuck the fear that Doggy Jack brought? And now just looking back you think of how much of a wimp he is compared to older Caliborn?
Meh.
English did jack shit, pun not intended, if you think about it. Like, honestly, all he did is kill a buncha ghosts and AH, and then got eaten by his dead sister, who is actually way cooler than him. And then there's Ultimate Dirk, who also barely did anything, yet is already a x1000 better villain than english.
@@arfirik He wrote himself as the villain to feel like a badass, but didn't actually have any villainous aspirations so he got bored and wrote in his own demise
I still like jack better.
With english, we didn't get to see much of him. And when we did, we usually knew what he was going to do.
Jack had more personality, and was unpredictable. One second he's killing sleeping trolls, the next he cuts to the chase and destroys Derse. One second he's sad about Jade's death, the next, he attempts to kill the entire universe. He was almost scary, because we never knew what he was going to do. There was always that sense of anticipation when he was onscreen.
@@reneablackheart9563 seconded. He is the only one that got a truly emotional reaction out of John Egbert. Quite a feat in my opinion.
@@arfirik
“English did Jack shit.” You remember how every event in Homestuck was a butterfly effect made by him to assure his birth? How he completely had influence over the alpha timeline?
Absolutely starts sobbing again
Same...
I see a lot of people saying this song makes them sad, and I get it, but personally I always found this song to have an almost meditative quality to it. Sure, there's sadness and loss in there, but there's also hope. The title of the track, Even In Death, implies that even in the face of something as final and all consuming as death there's something to continue, be it a mission, or a personal goal, or even just growth.
Even in Death, things go on
"It would be better if she hated you." Rough quoting, but damn man this breaks my heart. Roxy is the homestuck kid I kin to the hardest, not because of abandonment or alcoholism but because of void-player identity, and awareness, being the only person in the room aware of the quiet part no one's saying, wanting to say it all out loud, wanting people to notice you when you say it! Wishing you were as obvious to everyone else as they are to you.
Her good route warmed my soul because I felt absolutely seen as a void player, getting to go with her on a big hill watching a sunset, the small but meaningful gestures, the honest conversation about a deeply affecting personal topic.
This route... Alpha Rose isn't a bad mom, she's just a woman faced with imminent destruction, a fate she can't escape. And the alcohol in her house, obviously it wasn't for Roxy to find or drink, it was for Rose to cope with. And the fact that's all that was left for Roxy when you two returned to the future hurts so much. Rose drank her woes away, and now you two have nothing better to do with yourselves but the same.
THE USE OF THIS SONG REALLY MADE THE SCENE HIT EVEN HARDER GOD FECK MY HEART ITS ALL OVER THE FLOOR I C,ANT,,, , PICK IT BACK UP PLEAS. E
Roxy Lalonde Did Nothing Wrong Ever.
100% Unironically, she was too good for us /srs
I didnt even play this game but im so emotions right now
God I Remeber when this appeared in (S) Roxy sleepwalk
That was the original even in death, this version appeared on S Void
AKA S act 6 act 4
@Nonya Biizwacs I was actually mesmerized with roxy's stylish dress, it was quite good looking hahaha
just realized that this vid has almost double the views that Roxy's normal theme does
Its probably one of the most devastating parts in Pesterquest. I think its warranted.
I'm literally crying her bad end was so emotional what the fuck
most games dont make me cry like a baby
but roxy and nepetas pq chapters made me cry so hard i had to step away from the game to take a breather
This end fucking traumatized me i wasnt expecting that
I love roxy so much she didnt deserve that;;;;
Wow, that was just as fucking gut-wrenchingly horrible as I knew it was going to be. Thanks, I want to cry now.
I don't play PQ but I can tell Roxy made us very sad in their route and now they are automatically my favorite alpha kid
sh'es a she
They're my favorite because she's awesome and also I like him better than the other alpha kids
@@gwensleepyhead2673 actually theyre nonbinary soooo.... theyre a they
@@gwensleepyhead2673 roxy is non-binary,,,
@@saturn6635 Roxy is a girl, smh, what goes inside your head?
roxy was so cool she got a second theme
to me this theme sounds like somebody pleading, asking even begging for somebody not to leave them amidst the chaos
this track always gives me chills
Everyone: **deep comments that make sense**
Me: it is called even in death belly mix haha
Momlonde 😥
When this started playing, I knew shit was about to get real.
Dam never thought this would get used....
MerryShrug It got used in Act 6 Act 4, in the first flash of the act.
@@antheosenigma I think they mean in Pesterquest.
i love this theme SO MUCH i got the mfin chills when it began in game. shit was wild indeed
Bruuh I’m tearing!! I relate to Roxy so much!!!
In what way?
Phesheya Bhembe Abandonment issues and having unhealthy coping mechanism
the tabla drums really tie this whole song together
This is giving me the same flashbacks as "Sayo-nara" from DDLC
im gonna pretend i didnt rread that
I don't really feel so. That theme utters pure despair and no going back, but this sounds like it has a trace of hope in it, the failure is not so certain
That string part hits different
Roxy deserves so much more than life gave them...
The game's biggest "fuck you" for getting a bad ending.
Tears.
My friend and i were playing the game and got this ending, we were gonna end it after thst but immediately kept going "go back. Fix it. We gotta fix it" so we had to play again becsuse we felt so bad
"F1X TH1S"
me *getting into my clown shoes*: this time i can listen to this without crying
Death teach us something: that we should not screw around with life.
i know it's not obviously but this song sounds like it came straight off of the OFF soundtrack
This reminds me of off- like. This would 100% work in off.
lit song
indeed
The only alpha kid I REALLY cared for during canon
Jane is ok tho
Yeaah I love roxy (and I like Jane, but I don't really like Jake and dirk :/)
@@cupcake769 dirk os ok but sometimes he is to much and other times he is just bleh , but Jake he is just anoyng the guy just cries and is a terrible friend
@@samuel-rw3xthe means well though. He's just a kid who's lonely, without a guardian, like the others, he just chose to cope it in ways that weren't healthy, and he's just not good at picking up social cues. Idk I think Jake is ok, he just gets shat on by everyone at the end of the day
@@SonicLux_Hedgeman his is not terrible but the story made sure to show him in a bad light
@@samuel-rw3xt the story and it's epilogue has not been kind to poor Jake, yeah :/
roxy,,, my beloved
Yall idk wtf you’re talking about with “routes” and im still quite confused about if Pesterquest is canon, like does it continue the end of the original homestuck?
no, it's a different timeline from homestuck and is a continuation from friendsim. friendsim is apart of the canon timeline to hiveswap but pesterquest is a timeline on its own!
limabean so those games; pesterquest, friendism, and hiveswap. Are they part of the HS universe or not ive always been super confused 🥺
@@af3897 They are, however, as confirmed at the end of pesterquest's true ending with MSPAR, they represent a 3rd divergent timeline, the "Locked" (Suggested to be Pumpkin) timeline in which SBURB never affects their lives
Namis-Draws tysm!
@@willowoodz i thiink hiveswap takes place in the beta kids' timeline actually. jake takes care of roxy, and then she babysits joey/jude until she moves and then starts taking care of rose, and then a few years later the events of homestuck begin
i just noticed that Roxy is *possibly* wearing a binder
Their route gets some gendering in the good end, it's absolutely possible that's a binder.
@@AlexStarkiller1 well also epilogues
@@AmikaChill yeah but this fills in some backstory on that
at first i thought it was a tank top but now i think that youre absolutely right
No?
a6a4 isn’t my favorite flash but damn issa good one
WHAT A FUCKING BOP
I swear when i was watching Disenchatment some part of the music (not the theme, but a song played for a certain scene, i wish i could find it) sounded a lot like the violin part, does it sample bits of another song like some kind of sea shanty??
god this one always has me feeling a lot
she just like me fr fr
mood
Rpxy mi amor tqm
Wasn't this part of Cascade?
@@namdraws later here but this song is used in [S] act 6 act 4,not in [S] cascade
tbf it sounds a bit similar to Savior of the Dreaming Dead so i get the confusion
why cant night last forever?
Me acabo de dar cuenta de algo y no sé dios me siento muy pendeja por qué
The fuck who liked this
:(
Is like an arabian song