The Prophecy foretold of a union that gave way to far too much anarchy, yet a union united would be able to still complete the quest in a pyrrhic "victory"
I'm actually one of the mods for Super Mario Maker 2, and while I can't speak for all of us, I personally had a blast watching through the entire run. Great stuff, Doug... oh, and Doug's chat. Can't wait to see you all get that elusive sub-38 next.
@@MichaelWBauer There currently aren't any plans to add it as its own category, but if there's enough demand for it, we may add a variable for it on the current leaderboard. All depends on how many people are actually willing and able to complete a run like this.
Jonnyman is literally the greatest antagonist ever: tragic backstory, epic introduction, and keeps the heroes on their toes at all times. The villain always had the plot twist where he actually wins so that it makes a win even more epic in the next arc, or when he joins the hero's side to face the real evil. He's someone who you want to win and lose at the same time.
No matter how big Dougs audience gets it’s always going to feel like that same tight knit community because of how engaging and interactive he is with his viewers
Loved when I saw “ooh shiny” in chat when Doug said “look! a quarter!” Always love seeing Twitch Chat go against Mario games, awesome video and incredible performance from chat :]
As a Portuguese, I can indeed confirm I spent the last 18 years of my life being taught nothing but the old and sacred art of Mario Maker 2 speedrunning
I lItErAlLy JuSt HeArD tHe ViDeO sAy ThAt As I rEaD tHiS cOmMeNt!!!!!!1 (i am saying this in a irony voice (commonlyknown as the Mocking Spingbob Voice) to make people think i am cool and not rehashing an overused comment on porpoise! :trol:)
@@cubixthree3495 Ah, upon perusing this literary composition, I must confess that my cerebral faculties underwent a considerable upheaval akin to that of an electrical storm traversing the vast expanse of neural networks within my cranium, leading to an incapacitating condition colloquially referred to as a "stroke." The intricacies and convolutions of the syntax employed therein triggered a cascade of cognitive dissonance, akin to attempting to decipher the enigmatic hieroglyphs of an ancient civilization whilst riding a unicycle across a tightrope suspended over a chasm of linguistic ambiguity. Thus, I found myself ensnared in a labyrinthine web of syntactic perplexity, akin to a hapless arachnid ensnared within its own intricate tapestry, with each convoluted clause and contorted phrase serving as a tangled thread that led me further into the bewildering depths of linguistic disarray, until, alas, my cognitive faculties succumbed to the overwhelming complexity, leaving me in a state of cognitive disarray reminiscent of a malfunctioning automaton caught in an endless loop of recursive thought processes. In summary, I had a stroke reading this
@@sparkie1j A small number of sabotagers makes things interesting, but enough people doing it just makes it impossible. Plus, it'd favor bigger streamers over smaller ones, since a smaller streamer's chat could be more easily overwhelmed.
Heyyy smug bow kid, just checking in. How's it going? I see you around a lot, I believe we first interacted on the comments of a slimecicle podcast clip. We clearly watch very similar channels
I love how twitch chat has genuinely improved over time as they've gained experience and Doug's coaching has helped them get a relatively good flow down.
Being Portuguese, I can confirm that all my life I was trained to beat and conquer Mario maker, and that Jonnyman is a national hero, we sing his name in the mines while we train to beat all the other countries in the world
There are 4 people in Portugal: One is a child who speedruns, one who makes the subtitles for Portuguese, the third is Lixian, and the fourth is the leader of the country
This video's plot is such a master class in balancing on a razor's edge. Having this kid be the rival of Twitch chat could've so easily spiraled into unpleasant territory, but somehow it stayed friendly, jonnyman seemed to appreciate the momentary, relatively large boost in interest, and the video is hilarious. 👏
Doug, you're the best at engaging your community in ways that make everyone, and I do mean everyone, have fun. I'll be a part of the twitch chat hivemind soon
I’m just imaging Karl Jobst coming in with a “what’s up you absolute legends” as he reviews the twitch chat speed runs. Cause you know because of Doug, this is going to become a new catagory
I just love how you hyped them all up so positive, and then right at the end it's like, "SO NOW MY TWITCH CHAT IS OFFICIALLY LISTED AS the worst Mario Maker player of all time. Congragulations."
This run is no longer the slowest run on the leaderboard, Someone else was messing around and posted a 39:44 run, making this the SECOND worst run. Congratulations!!!
Imagine how they would react if they knew that the person right above them literally was just a chaotic hive of twitch chatters... That they were beaten... by that
For everyone who is wondering what the song is at 10:36, it's "Crossing Swords" from Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Also the song at 17:00 is "The Apex of the World" from Fire Emblem Three Houses.
Sometimes I get a little scared of his twitch community growing too much, I don't mean I worry about him growing in popularity, deserves so much more recognition than he gets, but the thing that makes this work and so beautiful is how tight nit the community is, if it grows and grows we will lose that, the more people could mean the worse, at least a possibility
@@PerfectOxygen hopefully it's balanced but it's a likely opportunity, only a small amount of bad ppl would be needed to ruin it though, I'm glad things r the they r atm
I was literally found the ChrisSnack vs Twitch Chat video yesterday and I just binged almost all your videos! Im so excited to see a new video and be early!
feels bad that someone stole your comment but instead of TH-cam fixing things that are important like that, they decided to remove the dislike function... they're very smart over at TH-cam HQ, as you can tell.
@@smearfo5612 it’s because the person who makes “refreshing” levels made them to be simple, easy, and almost impossible to fail. And they pretty much all share the exact same layout. But not so much with multiplayer. In fact the levels become almost impossible to beat in that case. A legendary moment happened when alpharad was playing Mario maker co-op with his friends and managed to get stuck on this level for almost an hour (It’s the one of the first courses in this video) th-cam.com/video/4I5GRBgegyQ/w-d-xo.html And then after he and his friends finally overcame the level that was literally just supposed to be designed to be easily beaten for free extra lives. They thought they were safe, but then in the same superworld in a later video there was Another “refreshing course” which was basically the exact same level, but again. And the pure despair in all of their voices at the realization made these “refreshing” levels pretty infamous and iconic. And sort of an inside joke in the Mario maker community.
Imagine if in 20 years, Jonnyman actually becomes a legendary speedrunner and beats Doug in a challenge to gain ownership of his twitch/youtube channel.
"It might not be about beating the Portuguese child." Is one of the funniest things I have ever lived to hear both in and out of context. You never fail to deliver, DougDoug.
As a Portuguese I can affirm our whole life is Mario. I have not seen my family since I was 3, when I was taken away to start practicing in the art of Mario games.
I know I arrived a little late but... As a Portuguese I would like to say that you were excellent opponents, good luck for the next one. Letss gooo jonnyman the cristiano ronaldo from mario maker
Just a heads-up, the music credits are missing in the description. On a very much related note, does anyone know the song at 16:59? Edit: Found it! It's The Apex of the World. I knew it had a Fire Emblem-esque sound to it!
who would win, 4000 lunatics or 1 portuguese boy
me
The Prophecy foretold of a union that gave way to far too much anarchy, yet a union united would be able to still complete the quest in a pyrrhic "victory"
The Portuguese are too powerful, as the prophecy foretold the lunatics were ultimately defeated
That portuguese dude
4k
I've been trying to take down jonnyman's record for years, dont think it's beatable
Portugal can’t be beaten
When you beat him, you just throw the Portuguese Flag on your wall
Lol
If you ever do, be sure to put jonnyman on your wall
He’s just too good!
I'm actually one of the mods for Super Mario Maker 2, and while I can't speak for all of us, I personally had a blast watching through the entire run. Great stuff, Doug... oh, and Doug's chat. Can't wait to see you all get that elusive sub-38 next.
Create a twitch chat only category? Would actually be pretty fun for streamers to compete against each other
@@MichaelWBauer There currently aren't any plans to add it as its own category, but if there's enough demand for it, we may add a variable for it on the current leaderboard. All depends on how many people are actually willing and able to complete a run like this.
That is incredible. I enjoyed this run so much.
@@UncleSlam I doubt it man
No one else is as dedicated as Sir Douglas “DougDoug” Douglas III
That’s awesome man, I love your work and what you guys do, keep up the amazing moderating!
Jonnyman is literally the greatest antagonist ever: tragic backstory, epic introduction, and keeps the heroes on their toes at all times. The villain always had the plot twist where he actually wins so that it makes a win even more epic in the next arc, or when he joins the hero's side to face the real evil. He's someone who you want to win and lose at the same time.
@Hunira Miska these bots man
@@dazcarrr They’re everywhere
@@theworstghost123 and all TH-cam does is remove dislikes
@DimensionalMilkshake I guess it was very emotion filled
FUCK YEA PORTUGAL
Hearing Doug call Jonnyman's movement "insane" and saying that he's a beast or whatever is both hysterical and extremely sweet
wasnt my best gameplay but thanks haha
@@jonnyman2011 HOLY SHIT, THE BEST MARIO MAKER PLAYER COMMENTED!
@@thinefaithfulcrusader2829no it’s faked
@@Puppylover720 nah bro, it's 100%, 1000% real bro, the name says it bro, Trust trust.
Guys the real jonnyman commented at the top
It’s hard to find the words to articulate just how much of a pioneer Doug is, he engages twitch chat in ways literally no one else can
@Hunira Miska holy fuck these bots are everywhere since a month or so
@@sbdrefc longer than a month, try a YEAR. Report their profile pics, and hopefully they'll get a strike
@Hunira Miska this bot again it was just on another comment
Him and Dunkey are the only worthwhile twitch streamers.
nice Charlie Chaplain Doge pfp.
As a Portuguese, I can assure you that Johnny man is the best Mario speedrunner that represents my country💪🇵🇹
Colonizador safado
Claro
He's not the worst speedrunner, that's just 1% of the power of the average Portuguese man
💪🇵🇹 jonnyman represatation
As a brazilian... G I V E U S O U R G O L D B A C K N O W >:(
Honestly, felt like the bar was set too high from the start. Jonnymans a legend
You right, you right
jee wiz thanks man lol
@@jonnyman2011 fake jonny man
@@BlouePickdMan what are you talking about? wrong
No matter how big Dougs audience gets it’s always going to feel like that same tight knit community because of how engaging and interactive he is with his viewers
Damnit they’re back
Thought TH-cam would have fixed this already
@@wackonaut yep and we are better than ever
Thats why his the Goat... THE GOAT!!!
@@parkermartel4364 Not a very tall feat. You are only able to do this shit because TH-cam is incompetent.
Loved when I saw “ooh shiny” in chat when Doug said “look! a quarter!”
Always love seeing Twitch Chat go against Mario games, awesome video and incredible performance from chat :]
How has nobody commented
Gotta grab those shinies!
Gotta grab those shinier!
@@JarredAnims stop copying
@@EnderChase3 inspired*
A random child in Portugal:
Twitch Chat: And I took that personally.
As a Portuguese, I can indeed confirm I spent the last 18 years of my life being taught nothing but the old and sacred art of Mario Maker 2 speedrunning
Um saúdo, irmán.
So say we all.
@@karatexperience that ain't portuguese my guy
@@nekoeye5284 yup, it's galician. pretty close.
@@karatexperience They both descend from Old Portuguese-Galician. Caralho!
Can't believe our run got verified on the website. Let's go chat
@Hunira Miska bot
Hello ma'am, it seems your comment has been flooded by bots. Would you like me to take care of them? 🔫
DougDoug gets all the ladies😍😍😍
Rump rump rump rump ooo quarter!
@@destroyerofworlds4663 Purge the heretics, please
As a portuguese I do confirm that Jonnyman is the best mario maker speedrunner and we worship him everyday when we wake up.
As a portuguese, I do confirm that, and we]re also electing him for the next president of Portugal.
All shall breath the air of Jonnyman.
Good to hear confirmation, lads! He is really as great as we thought he was.
What about days where you don't?
@@kabukiblooki he will come to our houses and school us in his ways once. If we miss it once more, he obliterates us, leaving no trace behind.
Johnnyman our god
“30 year old man subscribes to young Portuguese boy”
Thanks whoever said that on the stream
Based dono
I lItErAlLy JuSt HeArD tHe ViDeO sAy ThAt As I rEaD tHiS cOmMeNt!!!!!!1 (i am saying this in a irony voice (commonlyknown as the Mocking Spingbob Voice) to make people think i am cool and not rehashing an overused comment on porpoise! :trol:)
no problem
@@cubixthree3495 Ah, upon perusing this literary composition, I must confess that my cerebral faculties underwent a considerable upheaval akin to that of an electrical storm traversing the vast expanse of neural networks within my cranium, leading to an incapacitating condition colloquially referred to as a "stroke." The intricacies and convolutions of the syntax employed therein triggered a cascade of cognitive dissonance, akin to attempting to decipher the enigmatic hieroglyphs of an ancient civilization whilst riding a unicycle across a tightrope suspended over a chasm of linguistic ambiguity. Thus, I found myself ensnared in a labyrinthine web of syntactic perplexity, akin to a hapless arachnid ensnared within its own intricate tapestry, with each convoluted clause and contorted phrase serving as a tangled thread that led me further into the bewildering depths of linguistic disarray, until, alas, my cognitive faculties succumbed to the overwhelming complexity, leaving me in a state of cognitive disarray reminiscent of a malfunctioning automaton caught in an endless loop of recursive thought processes. In summary, I had a stroke reading this
I am undefeatable...
THE KING HIMSELF
Your power is beyond human comprehension
No one can take you down
@@thedavisinator yes
How has this comment flown under the radar?
I think a more accurate opening sentence would be "Hey, this is Doug Doug where I give myself problems that no one has"
Yeessss, I turned it into a perfect 300 Dutch Plan Der Lide. A PERFECT 300, YES.
genuinely would be cool if imagine a bunch of streamers had a speedrun challenge where their chat had to fight for the top time in a game
The chats sabotaging each-other would kind of ruin it though
@@woopi8003 ruin or improve?
@@sparkie1j A small number of sabotagers makes things interesting, but enough people doing it just makes it impossible. Plus, it'd favor bigger streamers over smaller ones, since a smaller streamer's chat could be more easily overwhelmed.
@@woopi8003 however a smaller streamer could control their chat easier, for example calling out commands to particular users
It happened with Doug and Ludwig!
I’d like to see how Chris Snack manages this challenge
Hopefully next time his dad can teach him how to swim
We Need to See that😂
To bad he’s dead
Alternate title: DougDoug attempts to crush the dreams of a Portuguese child
More like "fails to crush".
And fails miserably
@@Dinoman972 Yup.
It’s more of twitch chat
LOL
Jonny man was the most perfect rival for twitch chat, I only wish them the best in life. And Doug is so motivational he gets me hyped as well.
Heyyy smug bow kid, just checking in. How's it going?
I see you around a lot, I believe we first interacted on the comments of a slimecicle podcast clip. We clearly watch very similar channels
@@fluoromarx I suppose that’s why you see me often
@@smugbowkid9919 yeah makes sense, good to see you :)
LOL haha
Nice to see a TH-cam comments friendship
I love how twitch chat has genuinely improved over time as they've gained experience and Doug's coaching has helped them get a relatively good flow down.
"Hey this is DougDoug where we solve problems that no one has"
Top 10 sentences that make everyone's day better
Name all the other 9
@@platzu8061 hey hey people
The fuck is up with these bots
@@krackers5061 True
I wanna like this, but it currently has 666 likes
"This might not be about beating the Portuguese child." - Doug, 2021
After watching Alpharad play some "Refreshing" levels in multiplayer, I got real worried seeing one come up here
also the autolevel at 16:17 gave me major flashbacks. I was sweating.
Being Portuguese, I can confirm that all my life I was trained to beat and conquer Mario maker, and that Jonnyman is a national hero, we sing his name in the mines while we train to beat all the other countries in the world
yeah
Doug: "i can say quarter and you dont have to lunge at it"
Twitch cha: "OHHHHH SHINY!"
I love how chats two weaknesses are teamwork and a small ledge
Wow Doug Doug is solving a lot of problems no one would ever have
I also love how he hypes up his chat like a MADMAN for just running in a straight line
Im portuguese so im just here to tell you that ,yes, we train from a young age to become speedruners for mario maker
There are 4 people in Portugal: One is a child who speedruns, one who makes the subtitles for Portuguese, the third is Lixian, and the fourth is the leader of the country
What about the evil mustache man, we don't know where he is from
And the 5th is Cristiano Ronaldo.
I cant imagine being last place speedrunner and becoming the main target and getting more popularity than the people on top 10
When the true “art” isn’t in the levels, it’s in the people who play them.
Luigi: wins by doing nothing
Twitch Chat: dies by doing something
This video's plot is such a master class in balancing on a razor's edge. Having this kid be the rival of Twitch chat could've so easily spiraled into unpleasant territory, but somehow it stayed friendly, jonnyman seemed to appreciate the momentary, relatively large boost in interest, and the video is hilarious. 👏
Doug, you're the best at engaging your community in ways that make everyone, and I do mean everyone, have fun. I'll be a part of the twitch chat hivemind soon
They should make a separate category called “Twitch Chat Played:”. That would’ve showed Portugal.
As from Portugal, I too spent time in the Mario Maker mines... The hours are stressful, but at least we get some frango (chicken).
I found codfish in the mines
com sorte ainda nos dão um pastel de nata
Um saúdo irmán
I’m just imaging Karl Jobst coming in with a “what’s up you absolute legends” as he reviews the twitch chat speed runs. Cause you know because of Doug, this is going to become a new catagory
I can't believe they actually let it on the leaderboard, that's great.
I just love how you hyped them all up so positive, and then right at the end it's like, "SO NOW MY TWITCH CHAT IS OFFICIALLY LISTED AS the worst Mario Maker player of all time. Congragulations."
I love the level that says single player. But you proceed to play with 1000+ people 🤣
Twitch chat is an agent of chaos that follows no rules!
This run is no longer the slowest run on the leaderboard, Someone else was messing around and posted a 39:44 run, making this the SECOND worst run. Congratulations!!!
Imagine how they would react if they knew that the person right above them literally was just a chaotic hive of twitch chatters... That they were beaten... by that
For everyone who is wondering what the song is at 10:36, it's "Crossing Swords" from Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Also the song at 17:00 is "The Apex of the World" from Fire Emblem Three Houses.
i love that the level johnnyman started on and skipped was the 4th level doug beat with just voice controls shows you who is the true mario maker god
"This might not be about beating a Portuguese child" Doug 2021 4:24
Wow, he’s actually on the leaderboard in last place. Congratulations twitch chat!
Only recently found this channel Doug but i fucking love it, especially the skyrim content. Please keep it going brother you’re gonna blow💯
Sometimes I get a little scared of his twitch community growing too much, I don't mean I worry about him growing in popularity, deserves so much more recognition than he gets, but the thing that makes this work and so beautiful is how tight nit the community is, if it grows and grows we will lose that, the more people could mean the worse, at least a possibility
@@noor.s536 I mean its inevitable that he's gonna grow, yeah there's gonna be more bad people but more good people too
@@PerfectOxygen hopefully it's balanced but it's a likely opportunity, only a small amount of bad ppl would be needed to ruin it though, I'm glad things r the they r atm
This was legitimately so pioneering. I've never seen anything like it.
I don't understand how Doug has the patience to deal with all the people spamming shit during the auto levels
dude u let the chat play your game while you play with the chat and bring everybody else entertainment? absolute genius
Depends if they get a “hold right” speed run level is so
*yes*
If it’s an actual speed run *no*
The concern Doug shows for his kids winning at video games is heartwarming. He genuinely wants Twitch chat to do well in these streams.
yes
0:38 as a Portuguese I can confirm this is true
PORTUGAL VAMOOOS
How could one man hold so much power as to silence an entire twitch chat for even just a few seconds
Right when I was missing Doug Doug streams, Doug Doug TH-cam
ok
19:40 He made the air bud reference before all us commenters could, dang you DougDoug
6:09
"Don't say it like that!"
*almost says something that sounds just as weird or worse*
Doug frantically yelling "pausechamp, pausechamp!" has the same energy as a teacher yelling "catch a bubble!" at a rowdy class
I particularly liked the part where twitch chat played Mario maker!
The intense Xenoblade 2 music on 11:28 as the chat attempts to cross a literal hazardless straight line absolutely murdered me.
I was literally found the ChrisSnack vs Twitch Chat video yesterday and I just binged almost all your videos! Im so excited to see a new video and be early!
Ironic because thats how i found his channel too
15:21 Can we talk about how smooth DougDoug is with the catJam?
Never thought i would see you here
As a Portuguese man, I can confirm that Mario maker speed runs are all I know, knew and will ever know
Happy to say that jonnyman has now improved their record and twitch chat is no longer in last place
Ok Doug, I am pretty sure twitch chat is doing everything now
lmao a bot stole your comment and now it's the top comment
@@nickelodeon2226 ugh yeah i know
feels bad that someone stole your comment but instead of TH-cam fixing things that are important like that, they decided to remove the dislike function... they're very smart over at TH-cam HQ, as you can tell.
@@DeadSpacedOut the pinnacle of human intelligence
I can’t express how much I love the fact that Mario wasn’t moving on the last level for a bit because everyone was answering what 5+3 was
I really think we need a sequel where we can finally destroy Johnnyman
No. He's too powerful.
6:30 Adult man wowed by incredible feet
18:00 oh god, it’s one of the legendary “refreshing” levels
I should play them with my friends since they’re so refreshing
@@AshArtzMusic yeah for sure! , those are very refreshing with friends :)
I don't get it?
@@smearfo5612 it’s because the person who makes “refreshing” levels made them to be simple, easy, and almost impossible to fail. And they pretty much all share the exact same layout.
But not so much with multiplayer. In fact the levels become almost impossible to beat in that case. A legendary moment happened when alpharad was playing Mario maker co-op with his friends and managed to get stuck on this level for almost an hour
(It’s the one of the first courses in this video)
th-cam.com/video/4I5GRBgegyQ/w-d-xo.html
And then after he and his friends finally overcame the level that was literally just supposed to be designed to be easily beaten for free extra lives. They thought they were safe, but then in the same superworld in a later video there was Another “refreshing course” which was basically the exact same level, but again. And the pure despair in all of their voices at the realization made these “refreshing” levels pretty infamous and iconic. And sort of an inside joke in the Mario maker community.
@@smearfo5612 here’s the second video
The second “refreshing course” is 9 minutes and 30 seconds in: th-cam.com/video/ZKRhmvVrQoE/w-d-xo.html
FINALLY!! I’ve been watching your channel page waiting for a new video since I’ve watched them all! Soo excited!!
I want twitch chat to start a speedrun career
Imagine if in 20 years, Jonnyman actually becomes a legendary speedrunner and beats Doug in a challenge to gain ownership of his twitch/youtube channel.
I think the most wild part is twitch chat is no longer last place
Can't wait for Mario Maker TAS (Twitch Assisted Speedrun)
1:13 Twitch chat: “We are going to slaughter this child”
Jeez, that’s brutal, but I like it. That’s the kind of spirit I’m hoping for from Twitch chat
"This might not be about beating the portuguese child" is my new favorite cuote
This was amazing, excited for more videos
Also, that speedrun has got to be up there in the most luck based speedruns lol
"This might not be about beating the Portuguese child, but..."
-DouglasDouglas 2021
17:53 that actually means: Enter in the game
You were close Doug!
If you think about it, if 4000 people did this run, then they each took under a second, which is super impressive
1:04 I could you not I think in one of the voice command videos he had this exact level
4:22 "This might not be about beating the Portuguese child" - Douger
7:43 😐Stop the video...Zoom.
Enhance.
Yes...Just as I suspected.
That's no quarter...That's SILVER!
"It might not be about beating the Portuguese child."
Is one of the funniest things I have ever lived to hear both in and out of context. You never fail to deliver, DougDoug.
18:59 i love how everyone answered
"This might not be about Beating a Portuguese Child"
What's it about then DOUG!?
Guys I have good news, WE ARE NOT LONGER THE LAST ONES!!!
"This might not be about beating the Portuguese child"
-Doug 2021
7:19 this part makes me laugh so hard for some reason
I love how in the all star level it looks like Mario is on Doug's shoulder
10:53 It actually means "Coin Forest".
🤓
As a Portuguese I can affirm our whole life is Mario. I have not seen my family since I was 3, when I was taken away to start practicing in the art of Mario games.
"this might not be about beating the Portuguese child" - DougDoug 2021
"this might not be about beating the portugese child" - Doug 2021
I know I arrived a little late but... As a Portuguese I would like to say that you were excellent opponents, good luck for the next one. Letss gooo jonnyman the cristiano ronaldo from mario maker
2 years later and the ground pounding sound effect as Doug punches the air is still one of the best editing choices ever lmao
Just a heads-up, the music credits are missing in the description. On a very much related note, does anyone know the song at 16:59?
Edit: Found it! It's The Apex of the World. I knew it had a Fire Emblem-esque sound to it!
4:20 "This might not be about bEaTiNg the portugese child"