like your videos, but tbh, that last game with all the CCs, yeah it's kinda healers fault as well. one of you could have switched on kiriko to counter ana and help your tank ;) keep on the good work, love the cool vibes on your montage
Hey that is a fair point, I do touch on that in the vid a bit but we did have a Kiriko up until the third round where she gave up on our tank and went bap
I genuinely feel like a lot of metal rank tanks don’t understand *anything* going on in team fights or compositions really, since they have to both be main tank and peel for supports (like an off-tank would), they get confused and just blame everyone else with their inflated stats because OW2 giga buffed the tank role. If they’re getting hard mt’d they blame supports. If they’re not securing space and subsequently letting supports die to random flanks or off angle dps, they blame dps diff because it’s the stats that light up their walnut brains.
Thank you. I had a Ball claim "support diff" the other day when us supports started getting shot at from 3 different directions as soon as the opposing team swapped to an Orisa. Sure he died 3 times all push map, but he was a Ball that would roll in, piledrive, roll out once he couldn't bully the enemy team anymore. It's clearly not his fault if he's not even communicating or engaging WITH us, or the fact that we have no space. Heck we'd be down 1-2 by the time he even engaged most of the time cause he was too busy getting health packs.
@@jolteon345 Facts though. The Whole Tank role as a whole changing the way it did. The more and more I look at it, the more and more I wished the whole freedom of movement for characters thing was done while still having 6v6. you can still make the game faster, while having a Off-Tank to help balance out the times that Supports would flanked even them having High Skill Levels on their part or being able to allow Dps players to flank without them running the high risk of their main tank getting flanked in the process. If Blizzard really wanted to commit to 5v5, there is absolutely no reason why they couldn't "AT-LEAST" rework ALL the Heroes to fit the new format and thus causing players like the Ball on your end, to make brain decisions and cause you and the teammates to have miserable experiences playing the game.😑
@@grandenigma9400 I’m fine with the change to 5v5. My opinion is that the issue isn’t 5v5, the issue is that people continue to treat it like 6v6, even now. If the tanks think for a second that they are the only protection and space creator, they do well, but teams fall apart when the tank doesn’t do their job.
@@jolteon345 I Respect that. I am fine with 5v5 also, I just wished Blizzard done more to better implement 5v5, but also that the players themselves from an average perspective, would also be better at play in line with the change of 5v5 as well.
Tbh I’m Gm Tank, Support and Damage and I never expect the tank to protect me on dps or support. If he’s getting shot at, I’m shooting the other dps. Lmao, I just put myself in positions where I can fuck off to safety
found your videos semi recently and only just now realized i wasn't subbed, but i listen to them while i draw. wanted to say thanks for the great listening content !! very entertaining :] ur positivity against toxicity is amazing, idk how ur able to handle some of these people duder lmaooo
"I traded my ult for trance" might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. A rock could bait trance, a good dive could bait trance, but Sig's ult should never be used for that lmao.
Disagree heavily in a lot of circumstances. Support ults tend to be the strongest in the game and plenty of top 500 and even owl coaches will tell you tanks initiating ults to force out support ults is a great setup for team fights as well as aggressive support/dps ults. Yea it’s nice to get trans out early but good zens aren’t gonna waste it and panic ult every time so waiting to use ult as tank is dumb as well. That said that sigma was kinda bad
I just wanted to clarify sonmething TANKS DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE MOST DAMAGE, yes it is nice but the whole point of tank is to tank the other teams abilities and damage instead of the rest of there team. #2 COUNTER PICKING DOES NOT MATTER IN METAL's a good tank should be even able to win if they are counter picking, And finally #3 ULTS SOMETIMES DO NOT MATTER yes ults can sway team fight's nut sigma's ult is good for moving people such as zarya's grav or rein's shatter. the difference is rein's shatter stops the player's filly and cancell's ults. but sigma's ult moves people in the air far away giving the enimy team advantage with high ground but mkes them have no cover. BUT everything else seems good 👍😀 edit: IDK I could still be wrong but thats how I look at the game with my coach just cause someone has an ult, doesnt me they will win the fight
I like content like this but my problem with it is when people who aren't good at the game post this stuff as if they are the good player in the situation and their team was just ass. Every video I watch from you you consistently do bad at the game. Just feels weird.
@@FOBStevie21 So True. Like you said, you really cant control the people you play with since OW is very team ordinated and is very depended on every working together as unit. It was makes OW as big and popular as it is, but also allows Toxic People to formulate it into one of the most toxic environments in the Virtual World.
First part of the vid ab rein he trash but ur wrong u r a dps btw means damage smh tank is supposed make space take most damage so yall don’t half to!! It’s ur job to follow up but the wasn’t on u just stating sum
Bro I was losing my mind watching this. The way he's like "This counter that you should switch" is literally going to break my brain. It's the same rock paper scissors brain that makes OW toxic. People who insist on playing "Meta" instead of what works best for the team. Also the way he takes credit for saving the orisa at 18:14 is CRAZY. Like how did he not notice that he did NOTHING in that interaction while editing.
Nothing against you but i hate it when people say ego this and that. Everyone has a ego it’s a psychological thing. Most people mean to say inflated ego not just ego. Sorry for the rant it just bothers me that people say someone has a ego when everyone does.
like your videos, but tbh, that last game with all the CCs, yeah it's kinda healers fault as well. one of you could have switched on kiriko to counter ana and help your tank ;) keep on the good work, love the cool vibes on your montage
Hey that is a fair point, I do touch on that in the vid a bit but we did have a Kiriko up until the third round where she gave up on our tank and went bap
It's called support. Not healers
@@d1etpussy621 who cares, everyone knows what they are talking about, no need to be pretentious.
@@xajaga5308 I care. I wasn't trying to be pretentious, know your place. Supports are not heal bots. They enable your team to do plays.
@@d1etpussy621 you knew what they meant tho lol calm down they know that they dont heal bot
3:23 “we got shattered by a Rein in the back line”
“We NeEd A BaStIoN”
"this game is just awful" me after every match but still queuing for another
I genuinely feel like a lot of metal rank tanks don’t understand *anything* going on in team fights or compositions really, since they have to both be main tank and peel for supports (like an off-tank would), they get confused and just blame everyone else with their inflated stats because OW2 giga buffed the tank role.
If they’re getting hard mt’d they blame supports. If they’re not securing space and subsequently letting supports die to random flanks or off angle dps, they blame dps diff because it’s the stats that light up their walnut brains.
Thank you. I had a Ball claim "support diff" the other day when us supports started getting shot at from 3 different directions as soon as the opposing team swapped to an Orisa. Sure he died 3 times all push map, but he was a Ball that would roll in, piledrive, roll out once he couldn't bully the enemy team anymore. It's clearly not his fault if he's not even communicating or engaging WITH us, or the fact that we have no space. Heck we'd be down 1-2 by the time he even engaged most of the time cause he was too busy getting health packs.
@@jolteon345 Facts though. The Whole Tank role as a whole changing the way it did. The more and more I look at it, the more and more I wished the whole freedom of movement for characters thing was done while still having 6v6. you can still make the game faster, while having a Off-Tank to help balance out the times that Supports would flanked even them having High Skill Levels on their part or being able to allow Dps players to flank without them running the high risk of their main tank getting flanked in the process. If Blizzard really wanted to commit to 5v5, there is absolutely no reason why they couldn't "AT-LEAST" rework ALL the Heroes to fit the new format and thus causing players like the Ball on your end, to make brain decisions and cause you and the teammates to have miserable experiences playing the game.😑
@@grandenigma9400 I’m fine with the change to 5v5. My opinion is that the issue isn’t 5v5, the issue is that people continue to treat it like 6v6, even now. If the tanks think for a second that they are the only protection and space creator, they do well, but teams fall apart when the tank doesn’t do their job.
@@jolteon345 I Respect that. I am fine with 5v5 also, I just wished Blizzard done more to better implement 5v5, but also that the players themselves from an average perspective, would also be better at play in line with the change of 5v5 as well.
Tbh I’m Gm Tank, Support and Damage and I never expect the tank to protect me on dps or support. If he’s getting shot at, I’m shooting the other dps. Lmao, I just put myself in positions where I can fuck off to safety
High AF Rein lmao.
found your videos semi recently and only just now realized i wasn't subbed, but i listen to them while i draw. wanted to say thanks for the great listening content !! very entertaining :] ur positivity against toxicity is amazing, idk how ur able to handle some of these people duder lmaooo
You draw? Whatchu drawing?
listening to it while drawing too lollll
He behaves like Reinhardt from cinematic before he changed and started helping his team
"I traded my ult for trance" might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. A rock could bait trance, a good dive could bait trance, but Sig's ult should never be used for that lmao.
Disagree heavily in a lot of circumstances. Support ults tend to be the strongest in the game and plenty of top 500 and even owl coaches will tell you tanks initiating ults to force out support ults is a great setup for team fights as well as aggressive support/dps ults. Yea it’s nice to get trans out early but good zens aren’t gonna waste it and panic ult every time so waiting to use ult as tank is dumb as well. That said that sigma was kinda bad
“Why don’t you listen?”
Because you are not my father
That Rein is the defintion of every single high ego Ow player.
I dont play this game but ngl, watching this is really entertained me
Rein is hot garbage on junker town
Thought the ana may have had walls but after putting headphones on I agree, just great game sense
Calling supports "healers" is a straight up red flag when you play ow2. Just by saying that you'll go up a rank
Haha yeah its a bad habit, I still say it in masters and call myself out in other vids eventually I wont say it
Uhm the game itself literally says healers in the chat sometimes lol but yes we all know supports are NOT heal bots
its really not that deep
@@Grotechgamingno dude call it whatever you want this ppl pissed over a word
Nice transition 2:16 !
I enjoyed this video a LOT. Keep up the good content!
JUST LISTEN TO ME
I just wanted to clarify sonmething TANKS DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE MOST DAMAGE, yes it is nice but the whole point of tank is to tank the other teams abilities and damage instead of the rest of there team. #2 COUNTER PICKING DOES NOT MATTER IN METAL's a good tank should be even able to win if they are counter picking, And finally #3 ULTS SOMETIMES DO NOT MATTER yes ults can sway team fight's nut sigma's ult is good for moving people such as zarya's grav or rein's shatter. the difference is rein's shatter stops the player's filly and cancell's ults. but sigma's ult moves people in the air far away giving the enimy team advantage with high ground but mkes them have no cover. BUT everything else seems good 👍😀
edit: IDK I could still be wrong but thats how I look at the game with my coach just cause someone has an ult, doesnt me they will win the fight
This has been a thing since OW1😂😂😂. This is one of the reasons I keep social off.
Keep up the uploads
What's the song you used around 17:00?
If you're still looking for it theres always a link in my descriptions
@@Grotechgaming I already clicked on it actually, but I'm presented with a long list of songs and I just didn't know how to find the one you used
Wanna main ash but ive been a mercy main since ow1 and we get hated on regardless if we do our best or we heal everyone and still get hate 😢😂
0:48 sleepy??
nevermind how these people arent banned
how are these people alive? how does he funtion?
Whether it's true or not gotta give props for you to say thier more skillful than you,people not admit and blame others for loseing
healers can counter the enemy team, a moira would help with both their dps.
6 minutes in watching a genji counter you after you complained all game bout why switch bastion into genji T-T this tank hurts me
barely 6 k on hog that so bad 😭I usually get 34k😭
I like content like this but my problem with it is when people who aren't good at the game post this stuff as if they are the good player in the situation and their team was just ass. Every video I watch from you you consistently do bad at the game. Just feels weird.
That is a fair point but my content isn't me popping off its the moments between when conflict happens I don't usually include those moments
@@Grotechgaming I get it. I've seen people be way more toxic. You at least try to work with people. The people in this video were pretty brain dead.
@@FOBStevie21 So True. Like you said, you really cant control the people you play with since OW is very team ordinated and is very depended on every working together as unit. It was makes OW as big and popular as it is, but also allows Toxic People to formulate it into one of the most toxic environments in the Virtual World.
Bro, who- YOU ARE WATCHING BECAUSE YOU ARENT MAKING CONTENT. Stop crying when you KEEP WATCHING
@stevenrostek2788
Im not allowed to watch videos and have an opinion? This was the last video I watched from him. Have a Snickers
First part of the vid ab rein he trash but ur wrong u r a dps btw means damage smh tank is supposed make space take most damage so yall don’t half to!! It’s ur job to follow up but the wasn’t on u just stating sum
I do respect your takes but your commenting on vids that are like almost 2 years old, I'm not even the same player now lol
Just another toxic Voice chat player blaming the ppl whos not even on voice chat and asking for ppl to mass report.
I don’t this dude realizes he’s being just as toxic as the the toxic people on his teams
Bro I was losing my mind watching this. The way he's like "This counter that you should switch" is literally going to break my brain. It's the same rock paper scissors brain that makes OW toxic. People who insist on playing "Meta" instead of what works best for the team. Also the way he takes credit for saving the orisa at 18:14 is CRAZY. Like how did he not notice that he did NOTHING in that interaction while editing.
He told a rein that he should have more dmg than him while he us literally playing torb lol he gotta be gold
We were running nano rein with how overwatch has changed its usually two reins that eat off each other the most
Nothing against you but i hate it when people say ego this and that. Everyone has a ego it’s a psychological thing. Most people mean to say inflated ego not just ego. Sorry for the rant it just bothers me that people say someone has a ego when everyone does.
Facts Though Fam. Every has an ego, the only difference is whether or not its either big or small.
ego
saying ego is faster and easily and basically implies inflated ego. it’s used as slang
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@@allanvelasquez6101LMFOAAPAOOA
lol funny that the roadhog in the first clip complained about blizzard for him losing match
Yo can we get a bastiooooonnnnn