I forgot to turn the screen brightness up until later in the video. Also forgot to mention the aptX, LDAC, MQA and DSD support lol. And camera settings were wrong too - yeah, what a day!
This is the most in depth overview I've found of this product. Thank you for keeping it simple, short, and informative. I got this player after seeing this.
Thanks for the review. Lovely device. It indeed does a lot more than a just a dongle. But what if the battery inside it stops working? Is the battery replaceable? Does it still work as a (wired) DAC without the battery?
I just ordered this and thanks to your review, I'm pretty sure that I will be sending it right back! Two main things I demand in a DAP: I must be able to delete a file on demand and it must remember it's place when I turn it off. Since this review was a year ago I'm hoping that the firmware has been updated to meet my needs.
the samsung s21 can power the pro-x but it drains the battery of the phone pretty quick, only do it if both your phone and the hidizs have a full battery
Personally I don't think the phones are up yet to the level of quality I'd want to rely on them for my HD audio listening. It's very convenient, at least. You still have to plug some gizmo or amp into it, because the phones aren't equipped with a really good amp or anything of the kind yet. I just ordered one of these because I have a huge music collection of my own, and I keep adding to it, and i want all that stuff in HD .wav whatever format, on my player, ready to go. I also hate suffering commercials all day long when I'm trying to concentrate on music via the phone, it's ghastly. For the car, it's fine.
You have not tried the LG V Series of phones Quad DAC's headphone amp and can run HD650s headphones 1TB SD cards up to 2 TB capable yet to see 2 TB available 5000mah battery USB C Fast charging on V60 thin q. Sadly LG recently left the mobile Market 😥,
Even a modded iPod 7th gen with iflash can run apple lossless files up to 1tb an they to can power HD 650s. Slap a used oppo HA2 with ipod cable to HA2 you have a DAC amp with great sound on the old ipods
I would like to drive my car's Mark Levinson system from the AUX input. Do you think the quality of the music obtained justifies the purchase or do you recommend another DAP? This is small enough to fit in the cup holder without a problem.
Brilliant review, thanks for posting. Does the player remember where you left off when you power it off and restart? Thanks again, looking forward to more reviews
I was enjoying music for a while with my Hidizs MS2s, which I've neglected for a wee while, and decided to see what was new on the Toobs... A Hidizs DAP review. Nice 👍. I happily use a Qudelix DAC AMP, but this looks like a compelling upgrade.
How does Mqa work on this? I am a tidal user and use dongles to listen via phone or iPad. I have a fiio m6 that has wifi and I use tidal on that. Hidizs daps don’t stream do they. So why Mqa etc.
Hello! What is the name of the device introduced in minute 5:10? Sorry to bother you, english isn’t my first language and I'm having a hard time trying to get the name by myself 😭
Do you think that the AP80 Pro X can replace the QUdelix 5k? I have the Qudelix and I love it but I have been searching for a mini dap to carry my sd card with my library (my new phone doesnt accept sd card) and since the dap has all the functions that the Qudelix has I was wondering with I can have it all in one device. So right now Im deciding between the Hidizs AP80 Pro X and the shanling M0 pro, Im leaning towards the Hidizs for the power output and features, also I like the design better. If anyone has any comment top share on this situation it would be appreciated. THanks
I think it is a viable replacement for the 5k. It's bigger than the M0 but the larger screen makes it easier to navigate. If you're into EQ and tweaking the AP80 Pro X has got MSEB which is really substantial. If you don't need MSEB and want something small, the M0 Pro is also great.
My main issue is that I have albums that are composed/sung by different artists and when I view the album, it goes by album artist first, then the song number. I prefer to listen to the songs in the order that it was produced. Is there a way to fix this issue with the exception of naming the person who composed/sung the music?
I've been looking at a lot of the daps available and in terms of hardware this seems to be one of the better affordable ones but i cant get over the form factor its just so small it seems more awkward than something longer that could fit in your hand better so for the reason im hesitant to buy it.
It is great that one can use a 512 micro card which contains my 78000 tracks but not so great that the data base is capped at 20000. I had hoped that it would shuffle throughout the complete library. Am working with four folders of slightly less than 20000 in each. Am using the play through folders setting and shuffle mode. The folders are accessible on the micro sd card but I am not so sure that it will access the other three folders. The ability to shuffle throughout all folders would have been a plus for me. Suggestions appreciated.
Looks a bit like a iPod.... 🤔 So could I transfer my old iPod music from my computer and use it the same way? Does it connect to my home wifi so I can stream Spotify etc? 😁🙏
Can I ask a question? I have a cousin who’s early 20s, crazy about music, not much money. He’s only used to Spotify. My initial instinct was to give him an old iPod classic filled with music but would this device be more suitable? I have a sonos play 5 sitting dormant that could give him to connect to. Would this device work with some good Bluetooth headphones?
I got one of these. It crashes if your first press off the play button happens with bluetooth connected. If you look up albums by artist, the album contents are sorted alphabetically. There's also no UI changes for long tracks such as audiobooks or podcasts, so seeking becomes a nightmare. God forbid you mishear a sentence when you're out and about. I did some digging, and I genuinely think the "Book" option is because somebody asked about audiobooks on a forum, and a social media rep who posted there didn't know that you could get books read out to you in a digital format. Poweramp is 10 times cheaper, it has much better database handling, and is better at long files. Get that and a dongle dac, and you're better served.
@@PrimeAudioReviews so using it as a Bluetooth receiver. You could then use headphone to audio phono connectors into a analogue Hi-Fi and then stream your phone via Bluetooth into your Hi-Fi. Convoluted but it might just be the equipment you have, and that works economically for you
@mike listeral Very usefull comment, had to make a screenshot. The EQ on this device is sadly not enough, wish it had a more advanced 31 ban equalizer, I've sent a mail to the Hidisz conpany, and they said they will look into adding it as a feature in a future software patch, fingers crossed until then I'll have to mingle with the MSEB and EQ, much better now with ur detailed frequency explanation
@@PrimeAudioReviews Thanks for the reply. I'm just confused between a DAP & DAC. Music is the top priority. I was going for DACs, but People are saying android limits the output quality... So, could you please tell, what would be the difference between a DAP & a DAC with android(samsung s10+)...
I believe it's iPhone that has limits with dongle dacs. With DAPs you need to copy music to an sd card or stream Bluetooth from your phone. I personally prefer DAPs - hate having a dongle hanging off my phone.
This will not work with an iPhone. Draws too much power! This company just ignores you if you have a problem. Also what not said in the reviews is that you need to buy and use their proprietary cables for it to work. And the cables supplied are way too short to be practical.
Don’t buy it!! Bluetooth sucks with iPhone, hidisz cable to connect to iPhone doesn’t work which they know but keep selling it anyways. On/of volume wheel lasted 4 months, not possible to turn it on anymore. Don’t waste your money on this!!!
Turn your autofocus off my man, it was a tough watch with the constant focus searching. Might want to re-adjust your lighting too, to avoid that nasty glare. I don't mean to criticize but all of that kept taking me out of the video. Thanks for the review, it was helpful albeit a bit frustrating
Wouldn't it be awesome if a company put a headphone jack and a dedicated DAC....oh yeh LG did it, and Sony does it now! I WISH phone companies realised that phones are glorified walkmans and added functionality back! Oh Well at least these types of systems will sell! Looks like I'm heading back to carrying multiple devices like I did before Smart Phones!
I forgot to turn the screen brightness up until later in the video. Also forgot to mention the aptX, LDAC, MQA and DSD support lol. And camera settings were wrong too - yeah, what a day!
is this the same as a portable mp3 player?
@@gerrykomalaysia2 yes, that's exactly what it is.
that's ok, since you not often review daps, thanks for your nice reviews as always mate! keep healthy, God Bless
How does this compare to the HiBy R3 Pro Saber? same price point
Dank pods brother?
Yes
I was thinking that too lol
MageSound 8-ball (MSEB):
1 -- Overall Temperature is tilt of whole line to treble(cool) or bass(warm)
2 -- Bass extension 70Hz and below
3 -- Bass texture 100Hz (medium)
4 -- Note thickness 200Hz (wide)
5 -- Vocals 650Hz (very wide)
6 -- Female overtones 3kHz (tight)
7 -- Sibilance LF 5.8kHz (medium)
8 -- Sibilance HF 9.2kHz (medium)
9 -- Impulse response 7.5kHz (very wide)
10 - Air 10kHz sloped all the way to 20kHz
This is the most in depth overview I've found of this product. Thank you for keeping it simple, short, and informative. I got this player after seeing this.
Glad it was helpful!
Ive been interested in this device for quite some time, thanks for the review.
Nice DAP my only complain is that the Bluetooth is 4.2, I got myself for $110. I think it was an steal and deal since it was originally $199.
I think the book reader is there for the pdf booklets that come with some digital audio downloads, particularly from classical music labels.
That's interesting, I didn't think of that!
Thanks for the review. Lovely device. It indeed does a lot more than a just a dongle. But what if the battery inside it stops working? Is the battery replaceable? Does it still work as a (wired) DAC without the battery?
Yes, you can replace the battery and yes, it still works as a DAC with dead battery.
@@PrimeAudioReviews Awesome! Thanks for the quick reply!
I just ordered this and thanks to your review, I'm pretty sure that I will be sending it right back! Two main things I demand in a DAP: I must be able to delete a file on demand and it must remember it's place when I turn it off. Since this review was a year ago I'm hoping that the firmware has been updated to meet my needs.
It has playback resume like all modern DAPs. Not sure if you can delete files but I'd guess that you can.
the samsung s21 can power the pro-x but it drains the battery of the phone pretty quick, only do it if both your phone and the hidizs have a full battery
Brilliant review. Love the way you explain with similar product comparisons. 11/10
Personally I don't think the phones are up yet to the level of quality I'd want to rely on them for my HD audio listening. It's very convenient, at least. You still have to plug some
gizmo or amp into it, because the phones aren't equipped with a really good amp or anything of the kind yet. I just ordered one of these because I have a huge music collection
of my own, and I keep adding to it, and i want all that stuff in HD .wav whatever format, on my player, ready to go. I also hate suffering commercials all day long when
I'm trying to concentrate on music via the phone, it's ghastly. For the car, it's fine.
You have not tried the LG V Series of phones Quad DAC's headphone amp and can run HD650s headphones 1TB SD cards up to
2 TB capable yet to see 2 TB available 5000mah battery USB C Fast charging on V60 thin q.
Sadly LG recently left the mobile Market 😥,
@@123benley Wow, ok. No, I haven't. That's what I'd like to see on Apple's phones, etc.
Even a modded iPod 7th gen with iflash can run apple lossless files up to 1tb an they to can power HD 650s. Slap a used oppo HA2 with ipod cable to HA2 you have a DAC amp with great sound on the old ipods
@@123benley I don't even have my old IPod Classic it died finally about six years ago or so. Alas. I know Oppo makes good stuff, or did.
Awesome review man…where do you recommend I go download high quality music on a micro SD card? ( note: I’m old school lol )
I get a lot of my Hi-Res music from Bandcamp. You can download albums in FLAC format.
@@PrimeAudioReviews thanks for the suggestion!
I would like to drive my car's Mark Levinson system from the AUX input. Do you think the quality of the music obtained justifies the purchase or do you recommend another DAP? This is small enough to fit in the cup holder without a problem.
Brilliant review, thanks for posting. Does the player remember where you left off when you power it off and restart? Thanks again, looking forward to more reviews
Yes, it has memory playback function.
Which is the red dap displayed at 4:02? Great video by the way.
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I was enjoying music for a while with my Hidizs MS2s, which I've neglected for a wee while, and decided to see what was new on the Toobs... A Hidizs DAP review. Nice 👍. I happily use a Qudelix DAC AMP, but this looks like a compelling upgrade.
It's especially good if you want offline music
Hello, did you get the Hidizs? I am thinking about getting the AP80 pro or the Shanling M0 pro and replace my QUdelix 5k, Do you think its worth it?
@@daniellima9305 no, still using the Qudelix so I can't say.
How does Mqa work on this? I am a tidal user and use dongles to listen via phone or iPad.
I have a fiio m6 that has wifi and I use tidal on that. Hidizs daps don’t stream do they. So why Mqa etc.
Maybe for when using it as an external DAC. I cancelled my Tidal subscription so I can't test the MQA performance on it.
Hello! What is the name of the device introduced in minute 5:10? Sorry to bother you, english isn’t my first language and I'm having a hard time trying to get the name by myself 😭
I think you mean the FiiO M6.
Do you think that the AP80 Pro X can replace the QUdelix 5k? I have the Qudelix and I love it but I have been searching for a mini dap to carry my sd card with my library (my new phone doesnt accept sd card) and since the dap has all the functions that the Qudelix has I was wondering with I can have it all in one device. So right now Im deciding between the Hidizs AP80 Pro X and the shanling M0 pro, Im leaning towards the Hidizs for the power output and features, also I like the design better. If anyone has any comment top share on this situation it would be appreciated. THanks
I think it is a viable replacement for the 5k. It's bigger than the M0 but the larger screen makes it easier to navigate. If you're into EQ and tweaking the AP80 Pro X has got MSEB which is really substantial. If you don't need MSEB and want something small, the M0 Pro is also great.
Can I deactivate Bluetooth on this? Asking because of EMF.
Yes
My main issue is that I have albums that are composed/sung by different artists and when I view the album, it goes by album artist first, then the song number. I prefer to listen to the songs in the order that it was produced. Is there a way to fix this issue with the exception of naming the person who composed/sung the music?
You could try using the Drivesort app for Windows.
Did you solve the problem?
Via bluetooth ... how does it sound compare to the ,,local,, use?
It sounds great, especially with LDAC. It's almost at the level of going wired.
Helpppp! Either this or Hiby R3 II? I'm torn between the two 🙃
R3 ii has 4.4mm and better battery life.
@@PrimeAudioReviews thanks for the reply! Okay hiby it is
I wanted to see how it connected to a phone and played tidal & spotify, how does it show on screen what you are playing?
I've been looking at a lot of the daps available and in terms of hardware this seems to be one of the better affordable ones but i cant get over the form factor its just so small it seems more awkward than something longer that could fit in your hand better so for the reason im hesitant to buy it.
I have big hands and the size feels nice for me. The Shanling Q1 is a little bigger but it's super heavy and the buttons are too sensitive.
What's the difference between this and the pro non x? Thanks.
I know that for some reason they removed the radio from the Pro X
It is great that one can use a 512 micro card which contains my 78000 tracks but not so great that the data base is capped at 20000. I had hoped that it would shuffle throughout the complete library. Am working with four folders of slightly less than 20000 in each. Am using the play through folders setting and shuffle mode. The folders are accessible on the micro sd card but I am not so sure that it will access the other three folders. The ability to shuffle throughout all folders would have been a plus for me. Suggestions appreciated.
Looks a bit like a iPod.... 🤔
So could I transfer my old iPod music from my computer and use it the same way?
Does it connect to my home wifi so I can stream Spotify etc?
😁🙏
Yes, you can can transfer music from your computer. But if you want to stream Spotify and Wi-Fi you should get the Hiby R2 II or R3 II.
Hi, would u review s12 & hook x? Both are planar iem's 😉
Can I play Qobuz/Tidal music using this?
Does anyone know if these support ALAC or AIFF files? I think some of the Sony Walkman do, just cant find the info on this player.
Can I ask a question? I have a cousin who’s early 20s, crazy about music, not much money. He’s only used to Spotify. My initial instinct was to give him an old iPod classic filled with music but would this device be more suitable? I have a sonos play 5 sitting dormant that could give him to connect to. Would this device work with some good Bluetooth headphones?
Couldn't he just use Bluetooth headphones with his phone for Spotify?
@@PrimeAudioReviews yeah probably the most logical way to do it really! Cool videos
So how does raggae and dancehall music play in this?
Too late I already bought it
Diferencia con el ap 80 pro?
Will this power my hard to drive over ear headphones better than my 35dollar 7hz dongle dac on my phone?
Yes but only from the balanced output. I suggest you look at the HiBy R2 ii/R3 ii.
I got one of these. It crashes if your first press off the play button happens with bluetooth connected. If you look up albums by artist, the album contents are sorted alphabetically. There's also no UI changes for long tracks such as audiobooks or podcasts, so seeking becomes a nightmare. God forbid you mishear a sentence when you're out and about. I did some digging, and I genuinely think the "Book" option is because somebody asked about audiobooks on a forum, and a social media rep who posted there didn't know that you could get books read out to you in a digital format.
Poweramp is 10 times cheaper, it has much better database handling, and is better at long files. Get that and a dongle dac, and you're better served.
Can I connect this to my iPhone and use it as a dongle dac?
Yes you can but I'd recommend the HiBy R2 II for that.
@@PrimeAudioReviewswhy ?
Mainly because it has a better and more stable battery life. Apart from that they're similar.
@@PrimeAudioReviews I bought HIBY r2 gen 2 for 45$ sound quality great only wen using dap
what's the largest microSD card you could put in that?
I believe it's 1TB.
You said at some stage it had a 4.4mm bal out which is incorrect; it’s the only thing missing in my opinion
Yeah, I wish it also had 4.4mm. That's really the only thing missing.
@@PrimeAudioReviews Hidizs ap80 pro-x or HiBy R3 Pro Saber 2022, what do you think I should buy?
Can I sort the music after album artists?
Either album or artists yes. But not both together as far as I know
Anathema!
Can you take a phone call though it
¿don´t have wifi? damn... I already ordered yesterday...
dumb question, but i prefer using a music streaming service as opposed to downloaded flac files. does this support any music streaming services?
Not directly. However, it works as a Bluetooth receiver so you can run tidal or Spotify etc on your phone and stream it to the AP80 Pro x.
Don't you need WiFi for that?
@@PrimeAudioReviews so using it as a Bluetooth receiver. You could then use headphone to audio phono connectors into a analogue Hi-Fi and then stream your phone via Bluetooth into your Hi-Fi. Convoluted but it might just be the equipment you have, and that works economically for you
Yes, you can certainly do that.
Which has better sq ap80 pro x or the moon river 2
I prefer AP80 Pro X.
Can you explain sir
Difference sir
Really surprised the reviewers liked Hiby OS so much. It's just full of bugs and quirks that make it kind of... miserable.
MageSound 8-ball (MSEB):
1 -- Overall Temperature is tilt of whole line to treble(cool) or bass(warm)
2 -- Bass extension 70Hz and below
3 -- Bass texture 100Hz (medium)
4 -- Note thickness 200Hz (wide)
5 -- Vocals 650Hz (very wide)
6 -- Female overtones 3kHz (tight)
7 -- Sibilance LF 5.8kHz (medium)
8 -- Sibilance HF 9.2kHz (medium)
9 -- Impulse response 7.5kHz (very wide)
10 - Air 10kHz sloped all the way to 20kHz
@mike listeral
Very usefull comment, had to make a screenshot. The EQ on this device is sadly not enough, wish it had a more advanced 31 ban equalizer, I've sent a mail to the Hidisz conpany, and they said they will look into adding it as a feature in a future software patch, fingers crossed until then I'll have to mingle with the MSEB and EQ, much better now with ur detailed frequency explanation
@@elyad67 graphs of some headphones sound signatures are online
Hey,Shanling m0 pro or this? Pls help
I'd actually rec the HiBy R2 II over both, unless you need a balanced output.
@@PrimeAudioReviews thank you :)
I bought A&K Pee51 for my s22 ultra and my Ipad pro. Love it
I do have a dap, Walkman A105 with Apple Music Hi-Res Lossless and works like a charm.
Someone needs to invest in a pop filter ;)
Just use your smartphone and switched on the equalizer to get your desired sound output. That's it, you just saved $200.
It doesn't work like that but kudos to you if it does.
Nice watch you got there^^
Im about to purchase this but 2.5mm 🤔
It's a bit unfortunate but there are 4.4mm to 2.5mm adapters
the screen seems dim.
I turn up the brightness later in the vid.
You should check out HiBy Daps too.
I've tried but haven't been able to get my hands on one.
"Excellent sense of rhthym" LOL
Do some research. You might get it.
@@PrimeAudioReviews LOL
Can you play videos on this?
No.
This can only play music files...
Comment for da algorithm
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This or Hiby r3 pro???
I haven't tried the Hiby daps yet. Waiting for my R2 II to arrive.
@@PrimeAudioReviews Thanks for the reply.
I'm just confused between a DAP & DAC.
Music is the top priority.
I was going for DACs, but People are saying android limits the output quality...
So, could you please tell, what would be the difference between a DAP & a DAC with android(samsung s10+)...
I believe it's iPhone that has limits with dongle dacs. With DAPs you need to copy music to an sd card or stream Bluetooth from your phone. I personally prefer DAPs - hate having a dongle hanging off my phone.
This will not work with an iPhone. Draws too much power!
This company just ignores you if you have a problem.
Also what not said in the reviews is that you need to buy and use their proprietary cables for it to work.
And the cables supplied are way too short to be practical.
No qc issues? That's how hidizs known for. :/
They make toenail clippers
Don’t buy it!! Bluetooth sucks with iPhone, hidisz cable to connect to iPhone doesn’t work which they know but keep selling it anyways. On/of volume wheel lasted 4 months, not possible to turn it on anymore. Don’t waste your money on this!!!
Are you able to use a cable with a mic and buttons. Mine doesn’t work. Thanks
No, it hasn't worked for me.
@@PrimeAudioReviews Thanks. I hope the buttons don't wear out in a short amount of time.
I wanted to see all the settings available, namely to see if it supports crossfade. 👎
It has crossfade.
NO WIFI?
Just Bluetooth.
Turn your autofocus off my man, it was a tough watch with the constant focus searching. Might want to re-adjust your lighting too, to avoid that nasty glare. I don't mean to criticize but all of that kept taking me out of the video. Thanks for the review, it was helpful albeit a bit frustrating
Thanks for the tip
Wouldn't it be awesome if a company put a headphone jack and a dedicated DAC....oh yeh LG did it, and Sony does it now! I WISH phone companies realised that phones are glorified walkmans and added functionality back! Oh Well at least these types of systems will sell! Looks like I'm heading back to carrying multiple devices like I did before Smart Phones!
bluetooth on these things suck
Seemed fine for me, although I always had it in my pocket or on the desktop.