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It's not mentioned in this video but John L. Sullivan was the first ever World Heavyweight Champion of boxing and is considered to be the beginner of the Lineal Heavyweight Championship, which is basically the "Man who beat the Man." The Bostron Strongboy was the original *The Man.*
I wanna say I really appreciate you covering sports history, between Sullivan and Thorpe. I play varsity quizbowl at school and sports trivia is really unknown, so this helps me out a lot.
If you're interested in superstars of history, you might look at Louis Moreau Gottschalk, the New Orleans-born pianist and composer who was America's first international superstar. When he died, three continents went into mourning (North and South America, plus Europe). Lots of interesting story: inherited slaves, whom he freed, supporting an elderly one until her death; supported his whole family by constant touring, suffered the devastating loss of all his compositions in a train accident (but sprang back, because he had to), composed the Cuban national anthem (pre-Castro, of course), went into self-exile after an incident involving a young Mills College student, etc. Go thou and look him up.
Great message in the video. We have this thing where we put celebrities on pedestals for various reasons and some treat them like infallible symbols and we end up forgetting that celebrities are human. I.e. they can be greedy, they can have skeletons in the closet, their morals may not align with ours and they can be manipulated by things that make them do awful things. I think we all are familiar with the phrase "never meet your heroes." It's cool to have icons but we always have to remember to keep plenty of important context in mind when idealizing them.
Milkshake Duck refers to someone getting hyped by internet and their darker aspects coming to light after the fame. As others said, tied to a lack of research
Sullivan was the first heavyweight champion of gloved boxing, which also makes him the first lineal heavyweight champion, as well. The lineal title isn't officially recognized by any boxing organization, but heavyweight champions take great pride in it. Tyson Fury is the current lineal heavyweight champion. Good video on a great athlete and flawed man who played a pivotal role in the history of boxing.
@@michaelcastellano588 man fought for the liberty and slaves freedom a true legend his story should be in schools books the people can learn from him a thing or two
That's very supportive from Sullivan's point of view. He got his start by being invited from the audience to fight a boxer, so he extended the same invitation to others at his own matches.
As a Filipino I would love it for you to feature some of our mythical creatures Like the 1.Bakunawa 2.Sigbin 3.Mananangal I would love to see these on your channel
Sullivan was a huge inspiration for me, though I still sort of train I still look up to Sullivan as a inspiration for my love in both standard boxing and bear knuckle boxing
You guys should do videos on Politician Cassius Marcellus Clay, American ambassador to Russian and he was the reason why the USA has Alaska as a state, he also did some crazy stuff in his life
When it comes to historical figures and heros we need to know the good with the bad. The good inspires the latter grounds us, and both teach us lessons. I'm always glad when you guys bring a balance of this, to the best of your abilities. It really helps that you judge the actions not the person.
I clicked on this video I did not expect this to be about my home state. so this is going to be teaching me something they did not teach me here in Colorado.
While not related to this video, I have a video/series suggestion on the off chance that this is seen. I would love to see some videos or a mini-series on the St. Nazaire Raid (Operation Chariot). With your storytelling style, I'm sure a video/series would be highly captivating. For those who want to learn more, there is a good documentary here on TH-cam narrated by Jeremy Clarkson, with interviews from some of the surviving commandos.
I would like to see a playlist video that talks about the history of the Irish-Americans and their influence on the history of America, similar to the African-American playlist that you guys made.❤ And It would be great to see another video playlists about Italian Americans and Asian Americans
That signature knockout hook is definitely a product of medical consultation, IIRC in modern boxing the points that apply the most torque on the neck joints are called "the buttons" because hitting them is like pressing an instant concussion button.
I know not many people care about Warhammer but the lead writer of Extra History, Robert Rath, is the author of The Infinite and The Devine. It's one of my favorite Warhammer novels, and I think Robert Rath deserves the recognition of being an awesome author.
Please do the Greek war of independence of 1821 against the ottoman empire next I've been asking for this since the first episodes of the sengoku Jidai!!
YO!!! I did you guys reference The Devil Himself, The People's Scumbag, Maxwell Jacob Friedman????? I knew there was a reason I loved this channel!!!!!
"Much younger" - Sullivan was 33 and Corbett was 26. I know he had drunk himself to bits back then but even then we aren't talking 53 vs. 23 or something... Tyson Fury is 35 right now.
Our family had a great-grand that was a bare-knuckle boxer, During the time of Sullivan, his Boxing name was 'The Denver Kid'. It is almost impossible to find any more information.
You guys oughta do a episode about Cassius Marcellus Clay! (Not Muhammad Ali but his namesake!) The fierce abolitionist and politician whose story is so bizarre and insane you wouldnt believe it. It would make a entertaining mini series!❤
It's an ugly topic, but one that should be discussed and more widely known. Besides, they covered the Potato famine. Another unpleasant one they should consider at some point is My Lai.
@@bthsr7113should be more widely known? Its probably the second most known atrocity after the holocaust. But a series about it would be great, absolutely.
Imagine challenging random crowd members to box with them, then procede to lose so badly the crowd member you chose to fight KO's you into two violins.
weird anecdote about the great John L; "oofty goofty" who was a sideshow attraction billed as the "wild man of Borneo"(one of many that were around). After his wild man career ended ( it involved him getting sick and the doctors having to melt his costume off, it's complicated) he got a new job of basically singing badly in bars and getting tossed out which was when he found out he was numb to pain. Anyway, he started charging people to hit him; either with a walking stick or a baseball bat. One of the people he met was Sullivan himself. The champ took a swing with the bat and..well, let's just say after that Oofty could DEFINITELY feel pain.
I don't think there is a more stereotypically Irish sentence in the history of the world than "Two men named John L. Sullivan and Paddy Ryan got into a bare knuckle boxing match"
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Nothing like a video from you guys to start off a great day! Here's to another great video ❤
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What a punch! To start your career being pulled from the crowd to volunteer to try a fight!! 👀
No kidding!!!! 💥
Happened (in kayfabe) to Santino Marella…
That was so cool to hear to
@@extrahistoryThe story of emperor Majorian
I see what ya did there.
"I once went nine rounds with John L. Sullivan." "You never met John L. Sullivan in your life!" - Gus and Reginald - Night at the Museum.
I think this also an important lesson on how addiction can destroy an otherwise wonderful person/legacy
"CAN YOU SMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLL WHAT SULLIVAN IS COOKIN'"
Smells like toast
What The HEEELLL IS THAT SMEEEELL?
Smells like Sullivan needs a shower with an industrial cleaner. 😂😂😂😂
Ahhhh that's fuckin beautiful
I smell sweat and tears and is that a little blood?
It's not mentioned in this video but John L. Sullivan was the first ever World Heavyweight Champion of boxing and is considered to be the beginner of the Lineal Heavyweight Championship, which is basically the "Man who beat the Man." The Bostron Strongboy was the original *The Man.*
I wanna say I really appreciate you covering sports history, between Sullivan and Thorpe. I play varsity quizbowl at school and sports trivia is really unknown, so this helps me out a lot.
If you're interested in superstars of history, you might look at Louis Moreau Gottschalk, the New Orleans-born pianist and composer who was America's first international superstar. When he died, three continents went into mourning (North and South America, plus Europe). Lots of interesting story: inherited slaves, whom he freed, supporting an elderly one until her death; supported his whole family by constant touring, suffered the devastating loss of all his compositions in a train accident (but sprang back, because he had to), composed the Cuban national anthem (pre-Castro, of course), went into self-exile after an incident involving a young Mills College student, etc. Go thou and look him up.
I'm sorry, "Got chalk?"
Great message in the video. We have this thing where we put celebrities on pedestals for various reasons and some treat them like infallible symbols and we end up forgetting that celebrities are human. I.e. they can be greedy, they can have skeletons in the closet, their morals may not align with ours and they can be manipulated by things that make them do awful things. I think we all are familiar with the phrase "never meet your heroes."
It's cool to have icons but we always have to remember to keep plenty of important context in mind when idealizing them.
Foreshadowing man striking as hard as that man's punch and swagger!
TIL "Milkshake Duck". No, you didn't hallucinate that line in the script. Cripes, I'm missing internet references now.
I don't get it, and I probably don't want to.
I had never heard of that either. We always just called them “victims of cancel culture.”
@@ferretyluv Well, more like an utter failure to vet / background-check someone before publicly elevating them.
I had to google that too 😂
Milkshake Duck refers to someone getting hyped by internet and their darker aspects coming to light after the fame.
As others said, tied to a lack of research
I swear extra history could make a video talking about the history of soap and I’d still watch it
Goddamn, now I want this.
To be fair, it would probably be fascinating.
Fight club reference
@@sheddddnohoa 1 first rule of fight club you don´t mention the fight club
Sullivan was the first heavyweight champion of gloved boxing, which also makes him the first lineal heavyweight champion, as well. The lineal title isn't officially recognized by any boxing organization, but heavyweight champions take great pride in it. Tyson Fury is the current lineal heavyweight champion. Good video on a great athlete and flawed man who played a pivotal role in the history of boxing.
So the first celebrity athlete was an Irishman known for his incredible ability in a combat sport?
History really DOES repeat itself!
First celebrity athlete???? Mohammed Ali? Mike Tyson? Tiger Woods?
The operative word was “first,” not “only.”
Can't be the first, there was also Gaius Appuleius Diocles from the second century AD. Dude was the Micheal Jordan of Rome!
@@dixen9116 Sullivan was the first ever World Heavyweight Champion of Boxing back in the late 1800's. He predates those guys by quite a bit.
@@dixen9116Linear time is a tricky concept for you, isn't it.
2:24 GASP! the foreshadow! the foreshadow knows! Right walpole!?
i just finished John brown's story what a legend
one of the GOATs
@@michaelcastellano588 man fought for the liberty and slaves freedom a true legend
his story should be in schools books the people can learn from him a thing or two
🙌👏🔥
That's very supportive from Sullivan's point of view. He got his start by being invited from the audience to fight a boxer, so he extended the same invitation to others at his own matches.
I love John l Sullivan.
The MJF appearance was unexpected but greatly appreciated
I must have missed it.
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@@justinbryant2361 1:01 Here you go.
Indeed epic
@@justinbryant23611:05
0:18 idk why but this was extremely funny to me.
Love your work!!
Love your content guys! You always make My day 😊😊😊❤❤❤
You are incredible and you make really great videos. I love watching them at the end of the week
As a Filipino I would love it for you to feature some of our mythical creatures
Like the
1.Bakunawa
2.Sigbin
3.Mananangal
I would love to see these on your channel
Hearing a "Bitch" coming from Matt not once but TWICE in this episode made me laugh the hardest in a while
this has got to be the earliest i've been to one of your videos, keep making quality videos
What a punch, to start your career
phrasing. the phrasing of this man.
This was amazing as always! Keep up the good work!
~Brianna
Didn’t expect to see MJF in one of these videos.
Liking these videos on the sports legends.
Sullivan was a huge inspiration for me, though I still sort of train I still look up to Sullivan as a inspiration for my love in both standard boxing and bear knuckle boxing
You guys make such good videos! ❤
You guys should do videos on Politician Cassius Marcellus Clay, American ambassador to Russian and he was the reason why the USA has Alaska as a state, he also did some crazy stuff in his life
You should talk about the Glorious Revolution in one of your next videos
Loved the drawn MJF. This is a story that MJF is like a throw back to.
Ha! Gorgeous George, Muhammad Ali, and MJF. Didn't expect to see all three of them in a lineup.
This channel is amazing in its retellings of historical figures! I'd love if they did a segment on Chavelier D'eon
I see you sneaking MJF in the celeb athlete lineup at 1:02 and I approve.
Now that Extra Sports is slowly becoming a thing, and you are also a big wrestling fan, I’d recommend covering the story of Bruno Sammartino someday.
When it comes to historical figures and heros we need to know the good with the bad. The good inspires the latter grounds us, and both teach us lessons.
I'm always glad when you guys bring a balance of this, to the best of your abilities. It really helps that you judge the actions not the person.
This is the type of content I am looking for! Keep up the great work!!
Thank you for finally giving me context for Flogging Molly’s song “Hand of John L Sullivan”
This was another great video.
2:10 Irish were also often police officers.
Thus "paddy wagon"
On their 2017 album Life is Good the band Flogging Molly made reference to Sullivan on the track 'The Hand of John L. Sullivan'.
I wish his defeat by Louis Goulet in Helena, MT in the 1880s made the cut. That’s one hell of a story!
I am of irish haritage and my family history is amazing and i love hearing about the Irish history and ob such as this!
I knew I recognized that stance. Even without visible arms. That's the Overy Manly Man!
Ten years that's pretty solid. Came from nothing became a legend did it myyyyy wayyyyy
1:02 I like how John Moxley was added in there
Was that MJF at 1:06 ? Someone likes their wrestling.
Thank you for the video.
can you do a series on Olympians or other famous sports stars like the Washington Huskies rowing team or Babe Ruth Jesse Owens etc.
the memory palace has a great episode on this, it’s a more poetic version of him and his addiction
So he was Conor McGregor before Conor was Conor McGregor
Not even
1:05 Real salt of the Earth that fella......
He's better than you...
????
Ahhhhh!!! I can't believe you've made a video on my favorite person in sports history¡!!!!!
I clicked on this video I did not expect this to be about my home state. so this is going to be teaching me something they did not teach me here in Colorado.
While not related to this video, I have a video/series suggestion on the off chance that this is seen. I would love to see some videos or a mini-series on the St. Nazaire Raid (Operation Chariot). With your storytelling style, I'm sure a video/series would be highly captivating. For those who want to learn more, there is a good documentary here on TH-cam narrated by Jeremy Clarkson, with interviews from some of the surviving commandos.
Ya'll should make a series on Harald hardrada
Thank you.
I would like to see a playlist video that talks about the history of the Irish-Americans and their influence on the history of America, similar to the African-American playlist that you guys made.❤
And It would be great to see another video playlists about Italian Americans and Asian Americans
That signature knockout hook is definitely a product of medical consultation, IIRC in modern boxing the points that apply the most torque on the neck joints are called "the buttons" because hitting them is like pressing an instant concussion button.
To be the man with the plan to shake the hand of John L. Sullivan...
I know not many people care about Warhammer but the lead writer of Extra History, Robert Rath, is the author of The Infinite and The Devine. It's one of my favorite Warhammer novels, and I think Robert Rath deserves the recognition of being an awesome author.
"In his thick Boston accent"
*Proceeds to speak pure Australian*
Please do the Greek war of independence of 1821 against the ottoman empire next
I've been asking for this since the first episodes of the sengoku Jidai!!
YO!!! I did you guys reference The Devil Himself, The People's Scumbag, Maxwell Jacob Friedman????? I knew there was a reason I loved this channel!!!!!
Always looking forward to your videos! Hearth please ❤❤❤❤❤❤
I'd love to see a followup video on Gentleman Jim Corbett!
0:37 is this the first time extra history has ever cursed?
Maybe
Mike Tyson should box John L. Sullivan, would be a great bozing match fr fr
I bet Jake Paul would try to box Sullivan… it’s about the age range he likes to challenge
There is an area near my hometown in Mississippi named Sullivan-Kilrain because it was the location of his bout with Jake Kilrain
Now we’re getting into sports history
"it's the warrior's code"
The Dropkick Murphy's
super cool video !! 🥊💥
History as taught me no person is perfect
"Much younger" - Sullivan was 33 and Corbett was 26. I know he had drunk himself to bits back then but even then we aren't talking 53 vs. 23 or something... Tyson Fury is 35 right now.
Hearing you swear is insane!!!
THE FORESHADOW RETURNS
Exactly What i was about to say! EXACTLY!
Irish Courage, the boxer
Maxwell Jacob Friedman would be so proud lmao
May I recomend doing a video about Oluf Reed Olsen? He was known to be one of the best spys to ever live.
There's a great song about him by Flogging Molly.
My Grandpa was a semi-pro boxer in the 1930s, prior to joining the army. That’s never been an easy world - and that’s if you win often.
PANR has tuned in.
Dear extra History
Can you do a show on Timur please
From fan of History (might major in it)
1:01 shoutout to MJF
I'm really curious on why he didn't buy the headstone.
Cause I'm the man with the plan shake the hand of John L Sullivan! 🗣🗣‼️‼️🔥🔥🔥
Our family had a great-grand that was a bare-knuckle boxer,
During the time of Sullivan, his Boxing name was 'The Denver Kid'.
It is almost impossible to find any more information.
You guys oughta do a episode about Cassius Marcellus Clay! (Not Muhammad Ali but his namesake!) The fierce abolitionist and politician whose story is so bizarre and insane you wouldnt believe it. It would make a entertaining mini series!❤
As a long time boxing fan and history nut, I'm very well familiar with the Boston Strong Boy
Hello Extra Credit one sugestion for a future video:Holodomor.
It's an ugly topic, but one that should be discussed and more widely known. Besides, they covered the Potato famine. Another unpleasant one they should consider at some point is My Lai.
@@bthsr7113should be more widely known? Its probably the second most known atrocity after the holocaust.
But a series about it would be great, absolutely.
@2:25 wait is that the Foreshadow?
Imagine challenging random crowd members to box with them, then procede to lose so badly the crowd member you chose to fight KO's you into two violins.
weird anecdote about the great John L; "oofty goofty" who was a sideshow attraction billed as the "wild man of Borneo"(one of many that were around). After his wild man career ended ( it involved him getting sick and the doctors having to melt his costume off, it's complicated) he got a new job of basically singing badly in bars and getting tossed out which was when he found out he was numb to pain.
Anyway, he started charging people to hit him; either with a walking stick or a baseball bat. One of the people he met was Sullivan himself. The champ took a swing with the bat and..well, let's just say after that Oofty could DEFINITELY feel pain.
So this is John L. Sullivan. First heard of him from the movie Night at the Museum.
Extra History team, I have a suggestion. You could make a video about the 1848 Hungarian revolution.
I don't think there is a more stereotypically Irish sentence in the history of the world than "Two men named John L. Sullivan and Paddy Ryan got into a bare knuckle boxing match"
Just got a new name for my Sole Survivor Unarmed PC in Fallout 4!!
Sullivan fights in Boston again!!