Maynard James Keenan on how the Fibonacci Sequence inspired the lyrics/rhythm for LATERALUS

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  • Maynard James Keenan describes his different writing process for TOOL, A Perfect Circle, and Puscifer. He then delves into the fibonacci inspired underpinnings of Lateralus.
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  • @maciejtrybilo
    @maciejtrybilo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9289

    The Fibonacci Sequence definitely inspired the timing of their album releases.

    • @Dustomatic
      @Dustomatic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      Maciej Trybilo I see what you did there.

    • @deansinghgill
      @deansinghgill 5 ปีที่แล้ว +233

      Most underrated comment of 2019

    • @obsidiansiriusblackheart
      @obsidiansiriusblackheart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Nah you're thinking of the exponential sequence 😂

    • @typhoonf6
      @typhoonf6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +159

      @@obsidiansiriusblackheart the fibonacci sequence is exponential...

    • @giveusascream
      @giveusascream 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Genius

  • @Nozgh
    @Nozgh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4833

    Tool fans: they are geniuses
    Maynard: it was an accident

    • @spittingvenom9148
      @spittingvenom9148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Sarcasm: good job

    • @musicislife6250
      @musicislife6250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @Mark Peel He is just a troll. Dont feed him

    • @Carimbo575
      @Carimbo575 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      Lol also:
      Tool fans: this is the best song ever!
      Maynard: I could do better

    • @schism6976
      @schism6976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Reality: Who gives s shit

    • @JoshandMegSkelton
      @JoshandMegSkelton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@janjuko4024 you hate tool? I never thought that I would hear someone say that ever.

  • @iamgreg3834
    @iamgreg3834 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6042

    as soon as the cameras were off, they smoked dmt and rubbed their bald heads together

    • @crazyjoedavola5430
      @crazyjoedavola5430 5 ปีที่แล้ว +147

      Like on Family Guy where the bald guys were licking each others heads in the elevator

    • @Theirishcannoli
      @Theirishcannoli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Bro..😆

    • @crazyjoedavola5430
      @crazyjoedavola5430 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Theirishcannoli - Haha

    • @SirSSau
      @SirSSau 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Gregory Lavey
      I bet that’s not all they rubbed

    • @leanmeangreenbeanmachine3347
      @leanmeangreenbeanmachine3347 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      They used linseed oil as a lubricant

  • @larrycooper5328
    @larrycooper5328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1681

    I love how their most analyzed song ever is the song that the lyrics warn you not to over think or over analyze things. Complete genius work.

    • @JEEPTHING881
      @JEEPTHING881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind
      Withering my intuition leaving opportunities behind
      Feed my will to feel this moment
      Urging me to cross the line
      Reaching out to embrace the random
      Reaching out to embrace whatever may come
      No warning. We are being told to over think and over analyze. Question everything. That's what we also get from the golden ratio. It's in our design yet intelligence in our design isn't questioned. Only we evolved from monkeys due to coincidence. No man. Swing on the spiral or our divinity. No warnings. Only encouragement.

    • @Bandikoot-br2xg
      @Bandikoot-br2xg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which song?

    • @Rubar123
      @Rubar123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Bandikoot-br2xgLateralus

    • @jasonduvall6565
      @jasonduvall6565 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JEEPTHING881 agreed, but in my life overthinking and overanalyzing. , Alienates me from all around me. , So I've learned to tone it down. ,and dumb myself down , adapt to my peers. ,

    • @shaegse
      @shaegse ปีที่แล้ว

      You gotta stop.

  • @whygodrums10
    @whygodrums10 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5302

    this is like the only maynard interview where maynard is actually answering the questions seriously.

    • @SPIRALOUT9084
      @SPIRALOUT9084 6 ปีที่แล้ว +578

      John Stramiello i honestly think it's because Joe Rogan can hold a conversation with an interviewee and not ask immediately about Tool albums lol

    • @hunterrobinson7682
      @hunterrobinson7682 6 ปีที่แล้ว +400

      Or also because Maynard doesn't hold himself above Joe in a physical or mental level.

    • @NoBody-tz4fb
      @NoBody-tz4fb 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Hunter Robinson exactly

    • @WhackashitCollaborations
      @WhackashitCollaborations 6 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      It's cuz they're actual friends. This isn't an interview, just two guys having conversation.

    • @lewisb85
      @lewisb85 6 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Its a conversation with a friend as opposed and interviewer who has an agenda. You can tell the guests joe is friends with because a) they are on multiple times b) it feels more like a natural conversation than an interviewer/interviewee relationship.

  • @hoyit
    @hoyit 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4192

    If he thinks he can do better than Lateralus then I can't wait to hear it.

    • @ibowonar141
      @ibowonar141 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      hoyit haha

    • @notimportant3686
      @notimportant3686 6 ปีที่แล้ว +163

      didn't they already?... i think it was called aenema

    • @gabenewell5577
      @gabenewell5577 6 ปีที่แล้ว +303

      Not Important Aenema was good but it wasnt better than Lateralus lol

    • @travisdorsey139
      @travisdorsey139 6 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      No shit. I'm not sure that's humanly possible. But then again, they aren't human.

    • @notimportant3686
      @notimportant3686 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      well, to my taste it was

  • @SuyashJ
    @SuyashJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +454

    Joe 'that Fibonacci song' Rogan

    • @dakotasansonetti1752
      @dakotasansonetti1752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      James "it was kind of a dick joke" Keenan

    • @AllOneVoice
      @AllOneVoice 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Literally his whole thing about anything important or remotely intelligent “oh yeah dude I think I saw this thing right? Isn’t that crazy?” A little bit about a lot and everything about nothing

  • @CL-ey8vw
    @CL-ey8vw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +229

    For some reason, when I look at these guys I think about bowling.

    • @ZeusAndKiller
      @ZeusAndKiller 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂

    • @jennninja9986
      @jennninja9986 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can ask dr. Wigglefarmer for yourself he's the third head down top row third shelf!🤣🤣🤣

    • @ROCKSTARAVER
      @ROCKSTARAVER 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @michaelrichey6783
      @michaelrichey6783 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmfao

    • @djangobojangles5979
      @djangobojangles5979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's the shiny bald head...

  • @metalblade8787
    @metalblade8787 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1355

    this was ONE podcast away from #987 god damnit

    • @MichaelSartore
      @MichaelSartore 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      MetalBlade holy fuckin shit

    • @mbangroo
      @mbangroo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Wtf

    • @04dram04
      @04dram04 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      right babe?

    • @XxChaosWitchxX
      @XxChaosWitchxX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      they must have deleted one... quest to find the lostcast.... and.... go!

    • @jbasti227
      @jbasti227 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Damn, wasted opportunity. Hopefully he has Maynard on again for #1597

  • @idleave
    @idleave 6 ปีที่แล้ว +528

    “I could have done better.” -a true artist!

    • @Itsunclegabby
      @Itsunclegabby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Definitely.

    • @Ridiculizer
      @Ridiculizer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Humblebrag.

    • @twitchholland
      @twitchholland 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bold statement. I'd like to hear your stuff. It must b pretty good if you think u can do better than a G.O.A.T

    • @JosephWilhoit-ef6nl
      @JosephWilhoit-ef6nl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@twitchhollandMaynard is the goat in my opinion. But opinions are like bungholes everyone has one but most of them stink

  • @42cpulaski
    @42cpulaski 4 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    best live band I've ever seen. Tool plays so incredibly tight with unbelievable rhythmic accuracy.

    • @itsmejahoo
      @itsmejahoo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Saw them on Sunday the 19th in Montreal, most amazing show I’ve seen aside from Skinny Puppy (twice) and NIN when I was a teen.

  • @arie6523
    @arie6523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    He should have Dany on sometime, it’d be cool to learn more about the specifics about the timing and meter changes etc. from him.

  • @JohnDoe-ww6we
    @JohnDoe-ww6we 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3963

    What most tool fans don't realize is Maynard is a god level troll.

    • @epicpandashow10
      @epicpandashow10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +294

      John Doe every Tool fan knows this, wtf?

    • @davethorp7179
      @davethorp7179 5 ปีที่แล้ว +226

      Nah, he's just an asshole. The genius of it is that the tool army can't get enough of it.

    • @daxmoon3440
      @daxmoon3440 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Is he trolling us in the video?

    • @piggiesfly1093
      @piggiesfly1093 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Dax Moon
      Hell ya he is!
      He’s a freakin genius

    • @aaronroberts6100
      @aaronroberts6100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      He's both an asshole and a troll but we love him for it. Also he's a pure genius the deep meaning of tools songs omg

  • @Ceejnew
    @Ceejnew 6 ปีที่แล้ว +346

    Lateralus is a beautifully composed, thoughtful composition that incorporates its time signature into the very meaning of the song. The inclusion of the Fibonacci sequence is a brilliant accompaniment to the lyrical theme of growth and discovery.
    Maynard says "It's kind of a dick-joke, I could do better."

    • @ashislam5165
      @ashislam5165 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Maynard knows how people see him as the genius lyricist in Tool, but won't let that put a stick up his arse like alot of other artists, he's just being modest and trolling himself, what a guy!

    • @sicariusflamus3033
      @sicariusflamus3033 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Ash Islam maynard doesnt let the fame go to his brain which is honestly so commendable and i applaud him for it

    • @jenniferszych3383
      @jenniferszych3383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      One of my absolute favorite Tool songs. It's like listening to a symphony of the meaning of life. He's an artist. so of course he is always going to feel he could've
      done better. Even though the song is perfection in itself...

    • @michaelhanford8139
      @michaelhanford8139 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought he said it was an accident that he turned into a dick joke🤷
      😉🤘

  • @Beauty_In_Simplicity
    @Beauty_In_Simplicity 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Talking about getting old, Maynard looks amazing. Still totally floored to this day whenever I listen to his stuff.

  • @RobCrowley85
    @RobCrowley85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I need to find this whole interview. I really admire Maynard's humility here, he's giving off a highly intelligent, but down to earth kind of vibe and it just pulls you in.

    • @deniseclairesafalzoi
      @deniseclairesafalzoi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's really a dick unless he likes you! My friend knows him after he moved to Arizona! ❤ You Maynard but it's definitely a sophomoric definition you give especially pronouncing phi as fie NOT fee. You can do better dude! Still ❤ you buddy

  • @heartdisciple
    @heartdisciple 6 ปีที่แล้ว +337

    Maynards subtle humor is great and Rogan is oblivious

    • @gabeprice5648
      @gabeprice5648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He always is! But he's some sort of famed comedian...

    • @yahirbear
      @yahirbear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gabeprice5648 fuckin right

    • @chrisduplechain620
      @chrisduplechain620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Totally

    • @halfbakedmedia
      @halfbakedmedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I mean, yeah. His claim to fame was paying people to eat worms. Now he tells people to take horse meds and pushes the (admittedly fascinating, but highly unlikely) stoned ape theory.

    • @rynelson85
      @rynelson85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@halfbakedmedia Cope harder tool, what a pathetic existence you live. Do the world a favor and take knot tying lessons from Chris Cornell. Nobody will miss people like you, you add no value to life.

  • @MrFatbad
    @MrFatbad 6 ปีที่แล้ว +454

    He knows the pieces "don't" fit

    • @Irving_teran
      @Irving_teran 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      MrFatbad
      I see what you did there

    • @zealot1023
      @zealot1023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ....Comunicatioooooon....

    • @nodrize77
      @nodrize77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      XD

    • @CreepyJoeMustGo
      @CreepyJoeMustGo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Definitely a Schism in his explanation....

    • @TThatsWhatSheSaid1
      @TThatsWhatSheSaid1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm pretty sure he actually watched them fall away. I think he said it in an interview or something.

  • @mraso30
    @mraso30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    987 is the Fib number, just if anyone is interested, looked it up. The song is amazing (Lateralus), not only did Maynard use Fib numbers/sequence for the syllables of the lyrics, but the lyrics themselves "Spiral out, keep going..." and when you map out fib numbers in a quadrant it makes a spiral (seen at 3:15). Of course there's more to the lyrics and meaning behind them than "Fibonacci was cool" it is about opening yourself up more and more to the world and feelings and emotions and to take it all on with an embracing attitude. Spiral out, keep going!

  • @S4UBSTR4LIEN_M4RRSUPI4L
    @S4UBSTR4LIEN_M4RRSUPI4L 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Despite being my birth month & year (9/86), it is still a shame that this wasn't episode #987, just for the further Fibonacci Sequence + 'Lateralus' coincidences that would entail. For those who don't know, there is more on that below:
    "For me, the song 'Lateralus' was the turning point. I wrote a bar of nine, a bar of eight, and a bar of seven, and we originally called the song '987.' I saw it as something that kept getting shorter and shorter and, like a spiral, it kind of folds in on itself. And Maynard had no idea what I was thinking when he went to track the vocals. But as the song's folding and changing, he's singing about the idea of a spiral and how you're basically trying to achieve something that's never been achieved and you have to keep reaching for something that you don't understand. I thought that was an incredible synchronicity. Then a friend said, 'Justin, do you realize that 987 is the 16th number of the Fibonacci sequence? It's the mathematical equation for a spiral.' I'm not the most spiritual person, but all that stuff was almost like a reward for all our efforts, and I felt like it got us back on track."
    - TOOL Bassist Justin Chancellor via a _Revolver_ article originally published in 2007

  • @binglemansachs4187
    @binglemansachs4187 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Story my friend told me:
    "when i was in college I walked into my dorm on the day Lateralus came out and my room mate was blasting it full volume and standing on top of his dresser, pushing himself against the ceiling. He looked at me and yelled "It's too good! I can't get any higher!""

  • @brandino2427
    @brandino2427 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2630

    There's so much bald going on

    • @ting2112
      @ting2112 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Accented by shine.

    • @CrowdedIsolation11
      @CrowdedIsolation11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Brandino2 daney carey invented the original Fibonacci sequence while taking a dump on a tuesday afternoon.
      The more you know!

    • @ChaosShake94
      @ChaosShake94 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I gotta get my sunglasses just watch the pure awesomeness.

    • @kingloser4198
      @kingloser4198 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/i8GaFuo4svQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @flutistnotflautist4740
      @flutistnotflautist4740 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Lots of testosterone.

  • @jimtheedcguy4313
    @jimtheedcguy4313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The subtle jab at vanity with the no disrespect to people with downs made me chuckle quietly to myself.

  • @tg88montanaguy61
    @tg88montanaguy61 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Maynard James Keenan sure has some artistic ideas, that's why he's one of my favorite idols of music artists

  • @chrisatkisson280
    @chrisatkisson280 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Maynard is my inspiration and my all time favorite singer. Like hands down I wish I sounded that bad ass. He’s got a beautiful voice but then again he has so much emotion in his rasp and screams it just blows me away. I’d love to work with him at his winery. That’s a dream job

  • @Lotus-Son
    @Lotus-Son 6 ปีที่แล้ว +356

    So funny; he thinks the way he wrote Lareralus is akin to a teenager thinking his poems in high school were so deep back then but in hindsight they're just emotional teenage angst garbage, when most of us who are barely comprehending how he comes up with songs are in awe of how he came up with that song. There's literally a 13 minute video deconstructing how he came up with that song and how masterful it is and here he is blasting it.

    • @alexcsont4285
      @alexcsont4285 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      ThyChrysanthemum It's natural to keep on growing, so stuff you were proud of in the past may seem sort of childish after a while

    • @NerdsPlayhouse
      @NerdsPlayhouse 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ThyChrysanthemum That’s the genius behind our master Maynard

    • @applesaucebandit7188
      @applesaucebandit7188 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably because a teenager wrote it.

    • @sonricssss
      @sonricssss 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      13 minutes, from which they spoke mainly of fibonacci, and faces and shit, and literaly like 3 minutes of music and creative process.

    • @Pepper360
      @Pepper360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      "It was kind of dick joke, in a way." Best laugh I've had in weeks!

  • @MrAvidLearner
    @MrAvidLearner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    By the end of the clip, you understand just how much humility he has. Amazing.

  • @litchqueenasenath5995
    @litchqueenasenath5995 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lateralus was awesome, I could listen to it with my eyes closed and sober and fly through reality like I'm tripping. But to learn it came out like it did by accident is amazing. I can't wait to hear the new stuff

  • @christophercurtis4805
    @christophercurtis4805 6 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    They’re touching on the “golden ratio”. From my discrete mathematics textbook: in the worlds of art and architecture, the golden ratio is thought to create aesthetically pleasing proportions. The golden ratio is (1+sqrt(5))/2, or 1.6180339... and it’s value is approached by the ratio of two consecutive Fibonacci numbers F(n+1)/F(n) for larger and larger values of n. For example, 21/13 is 1.615, and 1597/987 is 1.618034 etc. The Fibonacci numbers are just what’s called a recursive relation, and although many think the 13th century merchant and mathematician Fibonacci discovered this sequence, Leonardo of Pisa (Fibonacci) only introduced Western European mathematicians to it. The idea actually started in Indian mathematics in Vedic studies many years before Fibonacci existed.

    • @Game-The-System
      @Game-The-System 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Speaking of it's history...
      I seem to recall the golden ratio being found in man-made objects & cultures from thousands of years ago...on different continents such as Mayan and Aztec ruins and in ancient Egypt.

    • @mansisity
      @mansisity 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Down syndrome is an error in the code bitch

    • @zeroprogressive
      @zeroprogressive 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Game-The-System asirian / musulman meccas, were the first, that shit spreaded everywere from egipt to aztecs

    • @erikferrar3453
      @erikferrar3453 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you imagine if way back when these mathematical sequences, formulas, equations, theories, etc., were being learned, invented, discovered, etc., that the world had the ability to communicate in the speed we have now (think internet/phone/even fax,++) and openly SHARED the knowledge and ideas and information of the processes it took to develop and discover it all where the world would be right now technologically. Long winded run on sentence I know. Sorry I just had an unTHC influenced brain trip

  • @888altamber
    @888altamber 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love Maynard and TOOL! Can’t wait to hear new albums from all of them.

  • @winningdesigns6067
    @winningdesigns6067 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    After The Burial have a song called Pi and it's fascinating because they used every number in the 3.14...sequence as beats per bar. They wrote a formula just to write that song. They even play it live perfectly

    • @milkwalkerjones633
      @milkwalkerjones633 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well no, they just play as many notes as each successive digit with rests in the middle, hard to execute but not hard to conceptualize. They definitely didn't have to write a formula lol

  • @Ionic457
    @Ionic457 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Amen Maynard! More people need to create music like you.

  • @rcore7846
    @rcore7846 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1543

    Maynard cares not about the music. He's trying to unlock the gate to the fourth dimension with black majik

    • @Meshuggapeth
      @Meshuggapeth 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      R Core yeah they’re into esoteric weird occult knowledge stuff

    • @thesunbehindthesun1574
      @thesunbehindthesun1574 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      R Core that's why they are so intruiging. As an occultist everything they speak on is true.

    • @rcore7846
      @rcore7846 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah I got a weird feeling when he was explaining it. Maybe I smoked too much pot

    • @thesunbehindthesun1574
      @thesunbehindthesun1574 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      R Core lol that could be it

    • @handsomebrick
      @handsomebrick 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      This is why I think Tool is sort of like the new Black Sabbath, they have this whole act they put on to be scary and a surprising amount of people buy into it.

  • @CharlesBryan1
    @CharlesBryan1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +404

    987 is a Fibonacci number.

    • @Pinko_Band
      @Pinko_Band 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Charles Bryan
      Right. He had it backwards here. Its a measure of 9 then 8 then 7. But his lyrics are sung in progressive fib starting with 1 (based on syllables)
      Black---1
      Then---1
      White are-2
      All I see--3
      In my infancy-5
      Red and yellow then came to be-8
      Reachin out to me-5
      Lets me see--3
      Counts up to 8 then counts back down

    • @JagdWehrwolf
      @JagdWehrwolf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      John Thompson
      See further lyrics: ...swing on a spiral...

    • @CharlesBryan1
      @CharlesBryan1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Weird. Because I didn't notice it was backwards when I first heard it. But the backwards bit 987 is a Fibonacci number. I know about the Fibonacci sequence in the lyric syllables. I think that is one of the testaments to the genius of Tool. At least one other testament would be the music. :)

    • @elenakat1497
      @elenakat1497 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s been so long since their last album Maynard can’t remember

    • @howardtheduck4715
      @howardtheduck4715 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Charles Bryan very good 😄 hands you a cookie

  • @muttonbuster
    @muttonbuster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    This from an old Adam Jones interview in Kerrang: "Well, on that song, Justin brought in a riff, and Danny saw it had a connection to the Fibonacci, so he started trying to work in elements of it.
    Then Maynard came in and we started telling him about the sequence. It came from trying to relate to those things in life or nature we all have in common." - In other words, not only was it not Maynard's idea (it was Danny's), Maynard was mathematically illiterate to the extent that he needed to be explained what the Fib sequence was.

    • @Charlie_Xplorer
      @Charlie_Xplorer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Mathematically illiterate? On Maynard's wikipedia it says this on his upbringing: "In addition to completing a rigorous math and English curriculum, Keenan wrestled, ran on the cross country team, and sang in the glee club".
      I think he would know stuff about math.

    • @gallavanting2041
      @gallavanting2041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      How do you get "Mathematically illiterate" from "hey look at this thing bro"? If I try to show my friend a song is he now deaf?

    • @ctrainbeats
      @ctrainbeats ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gallavanting2041 yeah that was a reach if i ever saw one lol

    • @StrivedeLaLear
      @StrivedeLaLear ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The song to me is a statement on itself. That's why it's so ironically brilliant. It's not meant to be understood and only then can you understand it.

    • @aneroidschoolhouse
      @aneroidschoolhouse ปีที่แล้ว

      He called it pedestrian and sophomoric. What an ass. I have seen them 7 times and really Tool, but it's not for Maynard, I'll tell you that. Danny and Adam for the win

  • @Sarasapien
    @Sarasapien 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was an insightful interview 👍🏽

  • @SFCISME
    @SFCISME 6 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    No need to be humble Maynard, you did what no one else has done. Spiral out, keep going.

    • @bgilley8199
      @bgilley8199 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      SFCISME made a concept album?

    • @mayflower2370
      @mayflower2370 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This has been done about three hundred years ago.

    • @eddievlg
      @eddievlg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      😂 Really? No one else? So start listen more music... You have so much to listen and learn!

    • @04dram04
      @04dram04 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      his comment was a reference to the lyrics of the song

  • @ryanduray1
    @ryanduray1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1011

    Black
    Then
    White are
    All I see
    In my infancy
    Red and yellow then came to be
    Reaching out to me
    Lets me see

    • @f.jideament
      @f.jideament 6 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      These lyrics are like explaining the big-bang theory with phi ratio. First everything was empty space which is black in this reality. Then an insane explosion brings white which is light in this case. The material creation starting because of the ohm between gap/emptiness and this incredibly powerful and heavy light, then light breaks on the created material and explosions, colours starting to shine as red and yellow. And then the other colours with billions of explosions.
      There is so much more
      And beckons me to look through to these infinite possibilities

    • @russbarach477
      @russbarach477 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      in my infencey

    • @iesickboy
      @iesickboy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Russ Barach that's not even a word.

    • @Drontenpeel
      @Drontenpeel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Actually, looking at this, it seems close to symbolic language from the Alchemist process. Look it up if you like. The colors represent the stages in the process, which is about realisation of the Self, the unification of lower and higher spheres within a given context like the personality. Just after this part the section begins with "As above so below" which is a line from the Emerald Tablet, a centerpiece of the Corpus Hermeticum as found in Nag Hammadi. Hermetic philosophy is about alchemy, which is a spiritual, magical and esoteric path

    • @Drontenpeel
      @Drontenpeel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Which seems to fit with the thelemic symbolism I distinguish clearly in a photo on a video about the Tool Album update februari 2018 (th-cam.com/video/8GPu216GW3o/w-d-xo.html) . Aleister Crowley introduced this symbol into western esotericism. He was a former member of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, he started an aligned filosofical and magickal school on the principles of Thelema. He was a self proclaimed magician and an example to many big names in pop culture (and still is). The symbol represents the acting upon your authentic Will, which can be identified with the Divine Spark of Gnosticism: the Knowledge of the Heart. These schools and teachings are deeply linked with Hermetica and Alchemy.

  • @marquesbanks5904
    @marquesbanks5904 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love MJK! In Lateralus I was blown away by the lyrics, then to learn about them incorporating the fib spiral into it... Mind blown! One of the few bands to make you really think while rocking out.

    • @nickcliche
      @nickcliche 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The lyrics are so, so bad wtf are you talking about

  • @jacobgichun8114
    @jacobgichun8114 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Talented and remains humble. Stands on the shoulders of the great musicians he works with to mold his amazing work. Recognizes he is a cog in a beautiful machine and doesn't call himself the machine🤘❤

  • @davewaynejr
    @davewaynejr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +332

    Danny Carrey is the sekret genius behind all of this :)

    • @jtcorvin9614
      @jtcorvin9614 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      David Sherrill yeah man, he's no joke

    • @Briggz30
      @Briggz30 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      so true - most people think its maynard ... love maynard - but danny is the main driving force in the songs

    • @Hypnobong
      @Hypnobong 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Danny's riding that spiral there, boys!

    • @davewaynejr
      @davewaynejr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hes doing his Will, thats is for damn surr!!

    • @hockyjocky4
      @hockyjocky4 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Danny Carey is a genius that deserves to be celebrated. Favorite drummer of all time. He studied the greatest like John Bonham and Bill Bruford and defined his own style that involves mathematics

  • @4amwaj
    @4amwaj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +859

    Is Maynard just pretending to be unaware of the significance of this song or is he really just an accidental genius.

    • @onebadmoto5081
      @onebadmoto5081 6 ปีที่แล้ว +225

      he wrote lyrics not music

    • @2189fallenangel
      @2189fallenangel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Both. Haha

    • @ibowonar141
      @ibowonar141 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Both

    • @dstein111
      @dstein111 6 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      It’s called Adam Jones my friend

    • @2189fallenangel
      @2189fallenangel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      Nah it's all four of them together. Adam, Danny, Justin, and Maynard... Perfect synchronicity.. :D

  • @web1187
    @web1187 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I wish I was given the chance to meet Maynard..

  • @2chows1dude
    @2chows1dude 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pure humility. What a good dude

  • @pariahmouse7794
    @pariahmouse7794 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This FASCINATES ME. I have been told I get a little too into the more esoteric aspects of TOOL, but isn't that their point? If I wanted mindless drivel that didn't prod my brain a bit I could listen to almost any other popular music that is out now. I want to be transported, enlightened, and stimulated; I want music that asks as many questions as it answers. There will never be a band quite like TOOL ever again, although anything Maynard does is at least intriguing...

    • @fordf-2505
      @fordf-2505 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do agree, though some of the songs are just troll songs. But the songs also permit you to really think what they mean to you personally, and you can do that with other Artists, too.

  • @bwild7610
    @bwild7610 6 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Lateralus is my favorite tool album.

    • @deftone4656
      @deftone4656 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      B Wild have you heard Ænima?

    • @bwild7610
      @bwild7610 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Emilio Vidal yes it’s my second favorite tool album them undertow

    • @kennedycrevoiserat7095
      @kennedycrevoiserat7095 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same. Been getting into opiate and undertow recently

    • @aaronwineberg7678
      @aaronwineberg7678 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      B Wild I get goosebumps every time I start that album

    • @Stickmantree
      @Stickmantree 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      B Wild I totally agree. Tool is good but lateralus is the best start to finish

  • @re20bt
    @re20bt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This song is weekly therapy for me. Tool’s ultimate masterpiece.

  • @RevanBC
    @RevanBC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    0:35 "HE knows the pieces don't fit!"

  • @SoSincerely
    @SoSincerely 5 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    I love how Joe tries to act like he's just remembering things off the top of his head, when he's just reading notes getting put up on his computer.

    • @needfoolthings
      @needfoolthings 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Joe "That Fibonacci Song" Rogan.

    • @zachmikovitz5616
      @zachmikovitz5616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We are all guilty of doing this at one point or another 😂😂 funny observation nonetheless

    • @jesseslistjesseslist5055
      @jesseslistjesseslist5055 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude you must be an asshole do you know how intelligent Joe Rogan is?

    • @Mari000
      @Mari000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jesseslistjesseslist5055 sure he is 🤣

  • @brandonkeaton
    @brandonkeaton 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1135

    Rogan and Maynard, bruh. What a great moment in history.

    • @ryanduray1
      @ryanduray1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Brandon Keaton No doubt man. I have a great amount of respect for both of these guys.

    • @jose280714
      @jose280714 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      pfff....

    • @themoniathansnest5404
      @themoniathansnest5404 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yeah

    • @SKATE87410
      @SKATE87410 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Which one is which?

    • @finsternis1986
      @finsternis1986 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In case you aren't aware, there is another older episode with Maynard also.

  • @kpsa7108
    @kpsa7108 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Writes one of the most intricate, complicated and fascinating rock songs ever; says he can do better

  • @andrewmiller2670
    @andrewmiller2670 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The song Lateralus always recalibrates my racing mind and leaves it in a zen state.

  • @Goodpointtips
    @Goodpointtips 6 ปีที่แล้ว +278

    they should change their name from Tool to just Math

    • @nikkitaylor4794
      @nikkitaylor4794 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jude Michael Lol

    • @Goodpointtips
      @Goodpointtips 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amir Frost fire roast, did you come up with that yourself, changing it now

    • @Goodpointtips
      @Goodpointtips 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amir Frost the way i like tool

    • @cdsmetalhead99
      @cdsmetalhead99 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jude Michael Except he obviously doesn't know shit about math based on the way he talks about the "phi ratio."

    • @mementocatharsis9372
      @mementocatharsis9372 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Danny Carrey is the math wizard. 7 pointed stars on his drumheads. He makes mathamatical sequences within the music by hitting the different points of the star. The sound doesnt change much because its the same drum but he knows he did it. Makes me think that man needs a different drum set. One with 1,000 more drums and stuff to equal his ability to play.

  • @FallenMerick
    @FallenMerick 5 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    Just watched the video but... can't remember what they said.
    God damn, shit the bed.

    • @Pi3.1419
      @Pi3.1419 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Next time bring a pen

    • @timmythistle6615
      @timmythistle6615 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I'll calm you down with some oranges slices and fetal spooning.

    • @vodkacannon
      @vodkacannon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@timmythistle6615 what the fuck

    • @Pi3.1419
      @Pi3.1419 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@timmythistle6615 haha what? I think you got the wrong thread

    • @Pi3.1419
      @Pi3.1419 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Human Resources woops I apologise.. I thought I knew all the lyrics to Rosetta Stoned 😪

  • @BLACKSYNTH
    @BLACKSYNTH 5 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    The new TooL Album is taking too long because hes just checking all the Maths checks out.

    • @ElCapitan88
      @ElCapitan88 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      BLACKSYNTH hopefully it comes out this August.

    • @MGWPS462
      @MGWPS462 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Its confirmed for August 30th, 2019

    • @Smokefools6691
      @Smokefools6691 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I've done the math enough to know the dangers of our second guessing.

    • @Mpalikari
      @Mpalikari 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Smokefools6691 did you check if the pieces fit?

    • @cesarceronzavala3386
      @cesarceronzavala3386 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I already had the tracks

  • @xBCxRICHx1993
    @xBCxRICHx1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still to this day one of the most profound powerful songs ever written.

  • @ToddFraud
    @ToddFraud 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1050

    They explained it terribly, good thing I knew what they were talking about beforehand

    • @bothellkenmore
      @bothellkenmore 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I saw the 1995 docu about the Mandelbrot set on PBS so I was aware of the phenomenon but was clueless that Lateralus had that influence. Needless to say mind blown when I learned it years later.

    • @ryta1203
      @ryta1203 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      It's a comic/MMA guy and a musician/artist. What did you expect?

    • @amjan
      @amjan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Maynard is not even as much a musician - just a singer and lyric writer. He adds his vocals to whatever he's given.

    • @davidwhippen5740
      @davidwhippen5740 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Tyler Davis man you must be so cool

    • @RainMakersGroup
      @RainMakersGroup 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're a fuckin genius.

  • @jojored9647
    @jojored9647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude you are a musical genius I don't care what anybody says every one of your songs is good keep going keep it up

  • @wwtservices5168
    @wwtservices5168 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    MJ Keenan in the most relaxed mood I have ever seen. He seems happy to talk about stuff.

  • @gracek513
    @gracek513 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lateralus is the only reason I remembered the Fibonacci sequence for my exams, so thanks hehe 😭❤️

  • @anonymousposter6671
    @anonymousposter6671 5 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    And every Algebra teacher, ever, just said in unison, “that’s when the hell ever you’re gonna use algebra outside of this class”..

    • @tanukiZoot
      @tanukiZoot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The only real world application LMAO

    • @DethBytch
      @DethBytch 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @adamallman7445
    @adamallman7445 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    "I can do better" - Maynard

  • @masonclegg2040
    @masonclegg2040 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sorry for Calling you out, Maynard. You know the world loves you. I needed you at that time. Thank your dad for me.

  • @joantrendafilov7963
    @joantrendafilov7963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    going to a concert soon in Germany! cant wait to hear TOOl!

  • @jackjon7763
    @jackjon7763 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Fibonacci take the previous two numbers added together. It starts as 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13etc.

  • @tommywingham8277
    @tommywingham8277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You can always recognize intelligent fellows . He’s direct and focused. No broken sentences

  • @JULIOHpsp
    @JULIOHpsp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    a whole lot of shine on this room

  • @allisonrr424
    @allisonrr424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredible artist

  • @satanpuncher06
    @satanpuncher06 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What’s awesome about that song is that the lyrics actually poke fun at us for over analyzing it instead of enjoying it for what it is

  • @gomaniz
    @gomaniz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Alternative title idea: "Two tattooed bald guys, who've tried every drug, talking about music"

  • @Hopeful_Skeptic
    @Hopeful_Skeptic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Thirteenth Step" is what actually opened my mind up to music. From there I feel in love with soo many genres. Ppl say psychedelics are life changing, I submit that music can be just as trasnformitive and powerful.

  • @gcjbhar
    @gcjbhar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolute Brilliant song writer!!!

  • @nth7273
    @nth7273 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    "There's something wrong with your face." - MJK

  • @MrSomethingElse
    @MrSomethingElse 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    "why are your lips?" Classic Rogan.

    • @mayechilde2
      @mayechilde2 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      MrTupuhi 😂😂😂

  • @OMGtheykilledKenny42
    @OMGtheykilledKenny42 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, Maynard uses the instrumental as a template to match his lyrics to. Awesome!

  • @cynzia_d
    @cynzia_d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He can talk about EVERYTHING and his voice puts a spell on you.

  • @BRUHALEXVRUHJOSH
    @BRUHALEXVRUHJOSH 5 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    it’s crazy to think that this man has out done everything i ever could in life and he says “i could do better.” fucking legend

  • @sonks336
    @sonks336 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Reading comments from Tool fans on these kinds of topics is always hilarious. They're like worse than Kanye fans.
    Maynard says it was intentional: "wow he's such a genius"
    Maynard says it was an accident: "wow he's such a troll. he's a genius"

  • @ImEatingSeeds
    @ImEatingSeeds 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love how he manages to sneak in that humblebrag at the end - "It was a vey pedestrian...sophomoric kind of thing to do. I could do better..." as he's talking about what is arguably their most popular and iconic song (and concept).

  • @jasonpettit9984
    @jasonpettit9984 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Joe,out of all the people you have ever had on this web-a-sode,Maynard is one of the top 5,he's a freaking genius, all of his music,the words the bands,and the wine,he's under control...

  • @nicholash4525
    @nicholash4525 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    that fibonacci song.

  • @tristananvilcaster
    @tristananvilcaster 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Maynard is a mastermind! This whole bands existence is incredible.

  • @Makalla
    @Makalla 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would do anything to meet Maynard. Need to ask him so many questions...

  • @Draugluin999
    @Draugluin999 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this guys music was always in my portable cd player in early 2000s

  • @mccoymrm
    @mccoymrm ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Maynard doesn't acknowledge it...but he is in fact our modern Beethoven. Genius.

    • @ctrainbeats
      @ctrainbeats ปีที่แล้ว

      beethoven was deaf homie

    • @strqrt70
      @strqrt70 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha, ok.

    • @mccoymrm
      @mccoymrm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ctrainbeats Maybe Maynards deaf. Dunno. But he can make music as good or better.

    • @ctrainbeats
      @ctrainbeats ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mccoymrm hmm

  • @utubedestroysmytime
    @utubedestroysmytime 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    He should do john theodore or ORL from the mars volta

    • @actiQ
      @actiQ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love you

    • @BornAmazing
      @BornAmazing 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Holy shit yeS PLEASE

    • @jbasti227
      @jbasti227 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Omar would be very interesting to see on here

  • @pervysage3500
    @pervysage3500 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @0:36 he talks about writing with each project and he says “it doesn’t fit”, when describing trying to connect his projects, all I can think is of MJK going manic rocking back and forth while writing the lyrics to Schism and saying “I know the pieces fit!”

  • @Dortch3
    @Dortch3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In thoroughly understanding the Fibonacci sequence, one must conclude you can start the sequence anywhere, with any number; therefore, all numbers (sans zero) can be made to be part of a fibonacci sequence.

  • @MrZZsharka
    @MrZZsharka 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I think Maynard was referring to how it works in a piece of music/notation for a moment there, while he’s a writer/lyricist, vocalist and performer, rather than someone who writes music like Adam can do in his sleep.

    • @ibowonar141
      @ibowonar141 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Kevin Smith adam jones is a superhuman

    • @nishitkirtikar
      @nishitkirtikar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Surprisingly, both Adam and Justin are not musically educated.

    • @bathoryaria4127
      @bathoryaria4127 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nish Kirtikar I just got in an argument with somebody over a youtube comment (which I should know better than to do by now) that reading music and being musically educated is not required to make good music, and, of course, this guy was arguing otherwise, while dismissing pretty much every legendary rock musician from Hendrix to just about every punk band to Nirvana. I just still can't believe there are people who think being musically educated matters. I always use this example, but look at Joy Division, Bernard Sumner could barely play his guitar, but he made it work and Joy Division is one of the best bands ever.

    • @Josh-mx4lf
      @Josh-mx4lf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glenda Danzig you are trying desperately to cling to an idea that suggests study does not enhance comprehension, which says to me that you either cannot afford or cannot squeeze the ambition from your existence to further your studies. Good luck

    • @Josh-mx4lf
      @Josh-mx4lf 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glenda Danzig I understood you the first time

  • @coscwyite
    @coscwyite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a writer I can confirm, it's MUCH easier to write to a song than to write without a song

  • @sambell385
    @sambell385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maynard be Trippin 😆 but I love the music that comes out of his tripping😁

  • @neckbone3943
    @neckbone3943 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tool, my first dmt experience. Never shall I forget

  • @galacticvangogh3766
    @galacticvangogh3766 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Irony lyrically "over thinking over analyzing" and here we are lol

    • @bane5343
      @bane5343 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can't believe he just called Lateralus a sophomoric dick joke! Lol

  • @HydroidPrimeRework
    @HydroidPrimeRework 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I imagine joe with the maynard mohawk and my life is complete

  • @ralphnewberry1140
    @ralphnewberry1140 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it when the word fit the music.

  • @michaelvon5001
    @michaelvon5001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for the next album in 21 years.

  • @formosamortem
    @formosamortem 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If only it was on JRE #987

  • @jeridjohnson9927
    @jeridjohnson9927 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Danny carey herd the riff and new what it was Danny made the song he is after all big in geometry and his dad was a math teacher

  • @Highchurch
    @Highchurch ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd sell my soul for this guys talent

  • @scottanderson9099
    @scottanderson9099 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    In two words. Amazing genius