The Fall of Jerusalem (67-70 CE)

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  • @TroglodyteDiner
    @TroglodyteDiner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    Unlike his predecessors Vespasian was very down-to-earth and had a famous sense of humor. Recalling the Senate's tradition of deifying deceased emperors, on his deathbed Vespasian declared "I do believe I am about to become a god!"

    • @JohnDoe-rk9bx
      @JohnDoe-rk9bx ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Interesting info thank you.

    • @littleantukins4415
      @littleantukins4415 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *explosive diarrhea

    • @Pantsinabucket
      @Pantsinabucket ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Keep in mind he did this while dying of dysentery. He said this while shitting himself to death.

    • @leos4243
      @leos4243 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Pantsinabucketthat do be happening without germ theory

  • @JasonWolfeYT
    @JasonWolfeYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Vespasian was thinking strategically, not tactically. He gave up a field advantage to ensure his ascension.

  • @haroldkay6303
    @haroldkay6303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Even this happened about this about 2000 years ago however this story about the fall of Jerusalem still bring tears

    • @romeyjondorf
      @romeyjondorf ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Well, I am just happy that we once again have our independence in our ancestral homeland :D Am Yisra'el Chai!

    • @gamalsaad1545
      @gamalsaad1545 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@romeyjondorf not for long

    • @ThatOneCatto
      @ThatOneCatto ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@gamalsaad1545 For long

    • @syedahmed8650
      @syedahmed8650 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ThatOneCatto
      Look at history, not for long

    • @ThatOneCatto
      @ThatOneCatto ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@syedahmed8650 I mean, no real foe stands against Israel that can meaningfully take Jerusalem. Not even Iran. Sure, they have a lot of men, but no good navy and a terrible air force. They can't invade Israel without either.

  • @charlesgoldberg8121
    @charlesgoldberg8121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I have watched a few of your videos and they are terrific! These are some of the most interesting videos on Jewish history from a non religious perspective that I have ever heard. It opens an entire new perspective for the stories I studied when I was younger, and makes it so much richer. Thank you for your work!

  • @CivilWarWeekByWeek
    @CivilWarWeekByWeek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    War in the holy land. I sure hope this doesn’t become a recurring issue.

    • @bijtmntongaf
      @bijtmntongaf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Jewish War Week By Week

    • @malindrome9055
      @malindrome9055 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      oh boy do i have something to tell you

    • @bigdaddyrat7854
      @bigdaddyrat7854 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Recurring war in the Middle East is like a broken record.

  • @MrHanderson91
    @MrHanderson91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Brilliant video as always!

  • @Materialworld4
    @Materialworld4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Thank you Sam, I loved the production values and the narration.

  • @brianhayes278
    @brianhayes278 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Congrats on 1k

  • @robertallen4774
    @robertallen4774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    So very sad! The story is well told, but I think of all those lives! I seem to recall that the thousands who were captured alive were enslaved in Rome to build the Colosseum. Often I think of James Joyce saying, "History is a nightmare I am struggling to awaken from."

  • @TheLoyalOfficer
    @TheLoyalOfficer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I don't think that Vespasian made an error at all by waiting to take Jerusalem. He did not want to risk his army with so much unrest in Rome.

  • @louisasuta4234
    @louisasuta4234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Fantastic series; thank you, Sam!

  • @ajanimation8239
    @ajanimation8239 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've actually been doing research for an animated series I've been writing chronicling the events of this war and your videos on the Great Revolt have definitely been a great help. 😁🙏

  • @inferno0020
    @inferno0020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    One thing I think a lot of people forgot is that the secular reasons behind the fights over the Eastern Levant. It is an important geographic center for connecting Europe, Asia, and Africa. Population, commodities, and information flow through that part of the world constantly and it is already an important geopolitical location, with or without G-d.
    Religious interpretation of conflicts gave an oversimplified but relatable explanation but it is far from the best explanation. When self-branded "Atheists" and "freethinkers" taunted the idiocy of religious conflicts but refuse to acknowledge that people fought over causes other than religions, they neither enlighten the mass nor provide any practical solutions

  • @tomasashenafi882
    @tomasashenafi882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gave me chills

  • @normzemke7824
    @normzemke7824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just discovered your channel and simply had to become a patron. I love to study Jewish history, so this is perfect for me. :-)

  • @MegaTang1234
    @MegaTang1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This coverage of the Jewish war is Awesome! Thank you.

  • @dr_monday
    @dr_monday 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Watching this before Tisha B'Av makes me really sad!

  • @arealgem9404
    @arealgem9404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    So Flavius Josifus was adopted by Vespasian !???? I CAN FINALLY GO TO SLEEP !

    • @bobbystclaire
      @bobbystclaire ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Josephus😮

    • @TheLordRichard
      @TheLordRichard ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That was how Romans gave citizenship to others by adopting them.

  • @Kratos1015
    @Kratos1015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Underated channel!!!!

  • @randomuser5868
    @randomuser5868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best episode so far

  • @ilayohana3150
    @ilayohana3150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    your videos are great. im honestly surprised by their quality considering you have such a small community. i hope you get to keep it up as i greatly enjoy each of them! love from israel/

  • @fernandoperez8587
    @fernandoperez8587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow very well done!

  • @toraparatodos
    @toraparatodos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    יישר כוח!

  • @k3D4rsi554maq
    @k3D4rsi554maq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Neat history of a really important time in world history.

  • @littleswol1
    @littleswol1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of your best!

  • @heidansama
    @heidansama 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just discovered your channel it's really awesome

  • @jerolvilladolid
    @jerolvilladolid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Did the Jewish kingdom at the time of Nero considered a rich land? Egypt, Parthia, Anatolia, and Syria were regarded by the Romans as very wealthy provinces and rival kingdoms, I wasnt sure if they viewed the Jewish lands as wealthy also or a poor backwater

    • @ovasquezg23
      @ovasquezg23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's a very important strategic position to control trade in the eastern Mediterranean and being near Egypt the breadbasket of the Empire it was very important to keep it safe and under control.

    • @jaystrickland4151
      @jaystrickland4151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Trade goods from India and China that came by boat typically went through Egypt, however Egypt is not a very defensible location it is basically flat land with a river in the middle, and could easily be conquered by cavalry based armies that know how to cross desert terrain which described Parthia to the T. So to defend Egypt Rome needed the levant which had more defensible terrain and sources of water.

    • @alexandrejosedacostaneto381
      @alexandrejosedacostaneto381 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes. Egypt, Italy, Syria and North Africa were richer, but only because they were larger than Judea. On a per capita basis, Judea was possibly the wealthiest region of the empire

  • @kosherwhitewine5879
    @kosherwhitewine5879 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    excellent video

  • @brettbartlett8856
    @brettbartlett8856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just discovered your channel. I'm loving it at all so far.
    Also, I really like Death of Stalin's score too ;)

  • @oldowl4290
    @oldowl4290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All of these little cities traded hands so many times where so many people were killed that it boggles the mind to wonder how they were ever repopulated. It also makes me want to know why Jerusalem was so important to control apart from the religious aspects. And I think if you wanted to live, the last thing you would ever want to be was a soldier or politician.

  • @xlamar89
    @xlamar89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Is it wrong this made me cry a bit?

  • @onecertainesquire486
    @onecertainesquire486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I can tell from your music you have a great taste in films. Death of Stalin is great

    • @MrGabeondrums
      @MrGabeondrums 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also good taste in video games. Zelda Wind Waker.

  • @Bryan-gw6bn
    @Bryan-gw6bn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is weird but I'd like to know what the music is starting at 14:50

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Broke for Free- "Night Owl"

  • @jsteele07189
    @jsteele07189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    5:16 "what should be the music for brilliant Jewish general Simon Bar Giora, who led the rout of Gallus's legion at the gorge of Beit Horon?"
    "how about Dragon Roost Island Theme from the acclaimed action-adventure game The Legend Of Zelda: Wind Waker released by Nintendo Co., Ltd. for the Gamecube home video console in December 2002?"

  • @Skythikon
    @Skythikon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your color-coding of the parties.

  • @gedgar
    @gedgar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice

  • @Thorongil1984
    @Thorongil1984 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the Dragon Roost theme used!

  • @waltervargas4121
    @waltervargas4121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Did I just hear windwaker as the music?? Lmao

    • @Thorongil1984
      @Thorongil1984 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, dragon roost island.

  • @ashleypenn7845
    @ashleypenn7845 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm a Christian homeschool mom with a Jewish family heritage. This video series has been a vital part of our homeschool journey. So much history presented in an easy-to-understand format.
    Thanks so much!

  • @heathenwizard
    @heathenwizard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    …..so how often you sneaking Legend of Zelda music into your videos? :p

    • @JC-qy3xi
      @JC-qy3xi ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For a second there, I thought I was on Dragon Roost Island.
      Zelda music just makes a great channel even better.

  • @whitelady1063
    @whitelady1063 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe the next episode will be followed by a live tour at Machada?

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I’ve considered doing a series on historical sites to run alongside new episodes, but the cost of travel and restrictions of the COVID-19 pandemic have made it impossible for the moment. I will go over historic battlefields that people can visit in Corrections and Fun Facts.

  • @soniyapettway
    @soniyapettway ปีที่แล้ว

    @16:50 - The music...may I ask who the artist is?

  • @mosesbakst
    @mosesbakst หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also, it’s an old video of yours so im sure you’ve caught this by now, but 10:15 Nisan is א and so on

  • @jimfromdiscord.8904
    @jimfromdiscord.8904 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:43 - Kinda reminds me of that one scene from Children of the Corn,
    "Shimon! Shimon! We have your woman, Shimon! She still lives! Shimon, maybe you don't hear so well!" _cut to John holding a knife to Shimon's wife_

  • @TheLordRichard
    @TheLordRichard ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t know if I buy this whole “Vespasian conspired to seize power” theory.
    If so he would never send his son Titus to pledge allegiance to Galba(who returned as soon as Galba was murdered)
    Also Vespasian left his other son Domitian at Rome this whole time.
    He was simply forced to seize power as soon as the undeserving and undesirable Vitellius was installed in power.

    • @FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv
      @FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv ปีที่แล้ว

      According to Tacitus.
      Cassius Dio and Suetonius give other plausible reasons. You're forgetting, Titus didn't go alone, he was accompanied by Herod Agrippa II and Julia Berenice, both of whom also wished to pay their respects to Galba so as to retain their status, against Vespasian's wishes.
      Titus actually *abandoned* his post as legate of the 15th Apollinaris, a death sentence offence for any politician of senatorial ranking. Knowing Galba's penchant for the law, had Titus arrived in Rome to pledge allegiance, Galba would've held him hostage to ensure Vespasian's loyalty or even had him executed outright. Perhaps thats why Herod Agrippa was going with him, a hidden plan to hand a valuable hostage to Galba in return for a political favor and to retain his kingship? We know Vespasian had no love for Herod Agrippa II, refusing any support from him during the war, and that he saw Julia Berenice as another Cleopatra, trying to beguile his besotted elder son.
      Thank god that Titus was actually delayed by a shipwreck in Crete, allowing for sufficient time for his uncle and Vespasians brother, Sabinus, to intercept him and let him know Galba had already been killed. Domitian, meanwhile, was back in Rome, concealed and protected by future emperor Nerva.

  • @SisterWomen
    @SisterWomen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is one of my all time favorite videos. Im not Jewish, I didnt become a Christian until I read theology as an adult. Ive always been fixated on the fall of Jerusalem and really the entire history of Isreal. But as you said, its udually Jewish people speaking in a way that makes it hard for nonJews to fully understand or the much worse nonJewish people talking about things they lack understanding in. I wantes this whole channel so bad but but video especially. I do wish you talked more numbers although I understand slain bodies isnt much of a talking point. It seems moderns fail to grasp the magnitude of the events without the scale. I know Rome did it a few times but ... Legions mobilizing against citizenry... to create ten thousand slain bodies in the city regarded globally as a holy city ... its just an event we dont fully grasp in the modern world. Thank you.

    • @akashveersingh528
      @akashveersingh528 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was fine strategically. Empires rise and fell that way. It's just the way it was back then.

  • @mosesbakst
    @mosesbakst หลายเดือนก่อน

    Videos like these force me to wonder - what were the positive impacts of 9av? Our religious practices essentially start with the mishna/talmud, which was forced by the end of the temple era.
    It gives new meaning to the idea of “one day the days of mourning will be days of celebration” - the day we accept that only through our immense suffering we were able to persevere.

  • @xifangyangren9997
    @xifangyangren9997 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Josephus never mentions Golgotha even once. He only mentions the tomb of John Hyrcanus.

  • @jaimeromano9104
    @jaimeromano9104 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is it that in this video Tisha B'av is dated as 28th of August of the year 70?
    Jewish calendar has a drift but never that large (almost 2 weeks more than usual.
    Can someone help me understand better?

    • @mosesbakst
      @mosesbakst หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe it’s an issue with Julian to Gregorian calendar conversion?

  • @michaelfisher7170
    @michaelfisher7170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I so love this history. is it...wrong of me, to feel pride as a person for both sides of this war? I'm not descended from Romans, and I'm not Jewish...but knowing this history makes me feel pride, and some revulsion, of both sides. The Jewish defenders because they were so divided and led by the more radical groups, but intent to preserve their independence. the Romans because of their bloodlust and mercilessness when they gained victory, but understanding their rejection of revolt within the empire. The determination of both sides attracts me. That degree of opposition in worldview..history is replete with it but this particular conflict summarizes it. I get it, from both sides of the war. I wish..and that's all I can do, that it had ended differently..but as a history lover I accept how it ended. Does anyone else feel this way? I've always wondered.

    • @romeyjondorf
      @romeyjondorf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, for me, as a Jew myself, it seems a bit sad. But I understand where you are coming from, if I think about conflicts in which I am impartial in, like the Armenia-Azerbaijan* war.
      *Actually, I kinda support Azerbaijan tbh, simply because they love Israel.

  • @jairuslandrum4183
    @jairuslandrum4183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simon bar Giora looks like Jason Mantzoukas

  • @cristobalvalladares973
    @cristobalvalladares973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Learning about Jewish history. Was not aware of all the struggles for the land. I don't understand why some people call the Jewish state a settler one. Settler implies foreign occupier. The Jews fought for this land. It is an ancestral place. Maybe there a subtlety I'm not getting. But why call a people who's ancestors fought settlers!? I'm not trying to be political, just curious.

    • @cristobalvalladares973
      @cristobalvalladares973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Shinshocks not wishing to offend anyone. All DNA evidence proves Ashkenazi and Sephardi connection to the land. DNA would appear to incontrovertible. White south Africans are settlers. The Israeli Jews are not. I move to Nigeria, would I a black man be considered a settler?

    • @cristobalvalladares973
      @cristobalvalladares973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Shinshocks funny, I do have blue eyes. Am frequently rejected by the afro American community for speaking Spanish. Blacks are not immune to the foolishness. We too have our issues. So on that, I will not argue with your logic. Superficial differences rule the day. everywhere.

  • @FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv
    @FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Jewish Alabarchs name was Tiberius Julius Alexander, not Demetrius Alexander (that was his dad)

  • @MegaFount
    @MegaFount 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a powerful description of this tragic episode in Jewish history. It raised the hair on the back of my neck.
    Many people don’t know this but the sacking of Jerusalem paid for the building of the Coliseum in Rome by Titus. The sacking is also documented on the Titus Arch in Rome.
    Funny that there’s no mention of Arabs! Where are the Palestinians?!

    • @light9205
      @light9205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nabateans participated with the Romans sacking

    • @Benamon9
      @Benamon9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Palestinians were still living on the Moon at this time.

    • @wordart_guian
      @wordart_guian 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Arabs got mentioned wrt nabatea, ituraea (golan) and in passing, osrhoene and hatra so far. They were esp. relevant during the reign of Alexandra.

  • @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
    @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 ปีที่แล้ว

    No kingdom lasts forever, to empire is eternal the will of time is truly absolute, the problem is what we learn from it and more then countless people have learned the wrong thing,

  • @beatboxbill
    @beatboxbill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Umm Dragonroost Island?

  • @RihannaIsIluminati
    @RihannaIsIluminati 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Killer video

  • @cabonlux5344
    @cabonlux5344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man with all do respect what are your credentials? You are correct in all your videos but I would like to know a little about yourself this material takes a lot of years to study were did you study this?
    And keep popping those videos there very educational

  • @danielkover7157
    @danielkover7157 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Vespasian was ultimately right. All the Jewish factions' in-fighting did eventually destroy them. So many peoples fell to the Romans because they wouldn't or couldn't unite, or they did so too late. I don't know how many ethnicities actually managed to resist the Romans, but I do know that the Germans were never conquered (probably due in some part to Arminius) and the Picts in the north of Scotland or Caledonia resisted because they united, and actually managed to survive as a culture into the early Middle Ages. It's too bad the Jews in those days couldn't get past those differences. They certainly had the courage and resolve. As much as I like studying Rome, and am awed by their engineering and what-not, I find myself cheering for those who resist Empire, even when I know they'll ultimately fail. I cheer for the Gauls, Boudicca's rebels (even though they committed atrocities of their own), and the 1st century Jews.

  • @PureMaddnessOne
    @PureMaddnessOne 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the 4 groups became 5 groups, interesting

  • @capt__v
    @capt__v 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    crying in the club rn T_T

  • @Ohotniktrolly
    @Ohotniktrolly 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it me, or does Vespasian look like a Roman James Mattis?

  • @RoseSharon7777
    @RoseSharon7777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Music too loud.

  • @albertotorres_1
    @albertotorres_1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love history but why does Simon Bar Giora look like Rafi from The League. Wonder if he yelled at the Jerusalemites Gattica!!!

  • @moseytv2365
    @moseytv2365 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is Ben Gurion related to David Ben Gurion in any way?

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      David Grün Hebraized his name to Ben Gurion as an homage to Joseph.

    • @Ben-qb4lj
      @Ben-qb4lj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Most Israel leaders have changed their names. Eastern Europeans aren't Hebrew/ semitic

    • @a.maskil9073
      @a.maskil9073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@Ben-qb4lj Jews aren't Eastern European, and yes they are Semitic. Ashkenazi Jews had Semitic surnames until the 18th century when they were forced to adopt European names.

    • @bolerobolero5668
      @bolerobolero5668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@a.maskil9073 They were forced by the Polish government?

    • @floss9972
      @floss9972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Ben-qb4lj thats funny, because on average ashkenazim are only 12-15% eastern european, while 38% italian and 50% levantine. which means we have largely preserved our genes as descendants if the ancient semites.

  • @brenosantana1458
    @brenosantana1458 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    .

  • @فيصلالسرحان-ب6ف
    @فيصلالسرحان-ب6ف 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    كلعم ونتم بكل خيرن نشاواحدحد جميعن∆∆∆∆∆∆

  • @TarunKumar-uo5gn
    @TarunKumar-uo5gn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    33 years after crucifixtion of Jesus. And Jews still ask for proof of divinity of Jesus.

    • @lexprontera8325
      @lexprontera8325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Your point being...?

    •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lexprontera8325 ...There shall not be left here one stone upon another... Although that's certainly not enough for many. Better read 'Mere Christianity' by C. S. Lewis

    • @lexprontera8325
      @lexprontera8325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      "Yeah, we have heard of your messiah and we are not impressed."
      Ouch.

    •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lexprontera8325 you heard, try reading that one is unique. Just an ideia. You may like it. Try it.

    • @lexprontera8325
      @lexprontera8325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ It's already on my list.

  • @Mr.WhaleSpeak
    @Mr.WhaleSpeak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the new “CE”, Christ’s Empire.😉

  • @democratpro
    @democratpro ปีที่แล้ว

    70 CE !? Yeah, youre a vaxxed comrade for sure💉✊🏿