Amtrak Derailment Trainset-The Night Before in Tacoma
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- This trainset, the Mt. Adams, derailed horrifically onto I-5 Monday morning. This lead engine, AMTK P42 #181, was trailing and was the only piece of the train to stay on the rails. You are looking at the last successful trip this trainset ever made.
This was supposed to be the last train on the Puget Sound Shore Line. This is Amtrak Cascades Train #508, arriving at Tacoma, WA, at 10:50 PM, Sunday, Dec. 17, 2017. The Tacoma Station was in the process of being gutted for transfer to the new Freighthouse Square Station. As you can see, plenty of people turned out to see the last train visit the station.
My family and I are very frequent train riders in this region, so this affected us more than some, especially since I know the conductor heard in the radio exchange that most of you have undoubtedly heard. I can confidently say that he is the best crewman I know to be able to handle that situation. My thoughts, and hopefully all of yours, go out to him and all the crew, passengers, and motorists affected by this tragedy.
no this is the same set. the set that derailed was the Mt. Adams. this is the Mt. Adams set just they changed the f40 for a charger in the night
Thank you! Somebody who knows what they're talking about!
i thank god the NPCU wasnt on there and leading, if it was leading and it crashed... that thing would be mangled and everyone would have been dead, thankfully it was a trash-c-44 leading and that the crew is alive!
I was there at the very same time. Sad to see most of this train derailed the next day....
Ok For All You Idiots Who Say It Not The Derailed Set Read This: No, It Is The Set, But The ENGINES Can & Will Change Because Of, Break-down, Accidents, etc So This Is The Set & Read The Set Numbers. You Can Just Barley See The Baggage Car Number Being 7172 And In Some Picture Of The Derailment It Is The Same Road Number. For The Baggage Car.
I was Prized about Amtrak P42 #181 was alive after the derailment and btw I love that Steal bell on departure 3:05
Oh yeah. Their bells are generally really nice. If you want more railroad music, I highly suggest checking out SpeakerPolice. Here's a sample of his stuff. (th-cam.com/video/pMzb2LoyAC0/w-d-xo.html).
Yeah! Me too
The trailing unit of the train pictured is #90251
Bill Mitnik
5 hours ago
A bit of history about #90251 was found on TrainWeb:
"This unit started as F40PHR #251 which was built with parts traded in by Amtrak to EMD from SDP40F #575. After running many years as part of Amtrak's primary road power, the engine had its prime mover removed but control stand kept intact so it could be used as a "Non-Powered Control Unit" which is how it operates today on Amtrak's Cascades trains in the pacific northwest. It's reason for being in Chicago was unknown at the time the photo was taken. Historical information about this locomotive was provided by www.amtrakbythenumbers.com."
That's NOT the train. The wrecked loco was 1402.
This was the night before the train. Most of the stuff on this train was wrecked in the derailment the next day.
Literally every car on this train derailed EXCEPT for this trailing engine. I'm really not sure why people are having such a hard time with this.
here is Proof that #181 was part of the accident. It was the tailing engine and was still upright on the tracks. th-cam.com/video/Bv8PEG0hcbQ/w-d-xo.htmlm17s #1402 was added during the night prior to departure.
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What a horrific, sad accident. I was affected, too, because I have often ridden this train when visiting relatives in Portland and Tacoma. (I'm from Hawai'i, so this train nut doesn't get to ride a train very often!) Additionally, it's sad that Amtrak is cutting out the Point Defiance loop. My 10 year-old granddaughter was with me last July for her first "real" train ride. She liked that part the best. Now she's freaked out about trains.
Yeah, the water side segment is by far the most scenic part of the trip. While I understand Amtrak's reasons for rerouting inland, nobody I know supports them. It's all so they can shave 10 minutes off the travel time and add two more trains a day (and ease congestion on the freight trains), but the new route will be extremely boring by comparison. At least your granddaughter got to ride the train while it still ran on the old route (at a time when it was intended to). I hope she overcomes her fear.
181 (the P42 on the end of the train that derailed) led this train. It also pulled the Leavenworth snow train, which I was on just weeks prior. That’s weird to think about.
Yeah. I know. Did you enjoy the snow train? I did it years ago, and while it was fun, it was really crowded and horrendously expensive. I wouldn't do it again, but it was enjoyable.
MultiPurposeReviewer I enjoyed it, but Leavenworth was too crowded for anything. I sat in one of the private dome cars, the phase III Amtrak one in specific, and it was a lot less crowded.
Yeah, I remember Leavenworth being very crowded. I'd rather drive up there on a weekend when the train isn't running, since the town itself is really nice in the winter.
OK a cupple question for you all Why was there a crowd of people freezing there asses of taking pictures of the train the night before it crashed and Did anyone else hear that bad wheel
Read the description. This was going to be the last Amtrak train to use this route and this station. Lots of people turned out to see the end of an era.
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What happened to the # 1402 that crashed? Ended up on the roadway.
It was trucked away using a special purpose extreme heavy duty lowboy that was scrambled from Oregon. It's functionally a cart and required two semi tractors to move it.
deepVAroots..... The Siemens SC-44 (Cascades 1402) that derailed is on its way to the Siemens plant in Sacramento for a complete inspection and rebuild. It will be returned to service when finished.... after systems testing, load tests and shakedown runs are completed.
Yes, I saw a vid of it being carted away on the truck(s). Video on Liveleak. I was just thinking it was part of this trainset.
Thanks!
deepVAroots.... You're welcome. Have a happy and Safe New Year.
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They have a point though. 181 stayed upright, and while I have been behind on details, I believe 181 is fine. And maybe it's the same passenger trainset, but the locomotive was obviously swapped overnight before (or right when) train 501 went on duty. So this may be the same P42, and the same passenger trainset, however before 501 took off the NPCU was swapped. And honestly, for the better. I can't imagine what fate the crews would have suffered if the NPCU was at their head end when they shot it down onto I-5. Please everyone, let's never allow ourselves to forget the crews over the train itself.
So what you and everybody else is saying is that because they switched out a single engine between 508 and 501, and the trailing engine stayed on the rails, the statement "this trainset derailed" is objectively 100% wrong? You would look at the pictures of the wreck and say "That's wrong, that train didn't derail. The trailing engine is still on the tracks."? Please explain to me why so many people seem to think that because one unit was switched, this isn't the trainset that was derailed.
Awesome train video
Thank you!
WRONG TRAIN.... Neither #181 nor #90251 were involved in the accident....
(Read AmTrak's Press Release....)
Different train number, same equipment. READ. THE. DESCRIPTION. Also, take a look at this (s.abcnews.com/images/US/amtrak-train-derailed-seattle-13x-gty-jc-171218_4x3_992.jpg). What was that about "#181 wasn't involved in the accident"?
Speaking of that the NPCU was not leading the train that derailed it was the Siemens Charger 1402
Yeah, I know.
This train has been around for 10 plus years. I love the cascade line.
We all do. Nobody I know was in favor of the reroute.
Sorry, I missed the last number: Trailing Unit is #90251
A bit of history about #90251 was found on TrainWeb:
"This unit started as F40PHR #251 which was built with parts traded in by Amtrak to EMD from SDP40F #575. After running many years as part of Amtrak's primary road power, the engine had its prime mover removed but control stand kept intact so it could be used as a "Non-Powered Control Unit" which is how it operates today on Amtrak's Cascades trains in the pacific northwest. It's reason for being in Chicago was unknown at the time the photo was taken. Historical information about this locomotive was provided by www.amtrakbythenumbers.com."
Was 501 being pushed or pulled that day? (*The day of the crash)
Usually both, although I imagine the SC-44 was the primary engine (i.e. pulled).
Ok wtf is up with that? Only in Washington State railfans!
I'm not sure what you mean.
This isn't the train that derailed.
No, it's not. It's the trainSET that derailed, which is why the video is titled "Amtrak Derailment TRAINSET." Why is this so hard?
MultiPurposeReviewer because some people are dumb
Apparently.
Dumb would be not realizing that you're posting a video with a deceptive description. If you aren't a railfan you likely read this heading to be the train that derailed. It even goes so far as to talk about #181 which isn't even a part of this video and it fails to mention #1402 which was the engine that crashed, also not in the video. What's so hard to realize about that? Stubborn is what that is.
Wow. Where do I even begin? First of all, neither my title nor my description is deceptive. I clearly state that it is the trainSET, i.e. the physical equipment, that derailed. Literally nowhere do I say it's the train that derailed. There is a difference, and it really isn't that difficult. Plus, if you read the description, it plainly states that this is the day _before_ the wreck. Second, really? "#181 which isn't even a part of this video." You obviously haven't even bothered to watch the video. Would you kindly watch the video from 3:43 to 3:47 and tell me what you see? I'm assuming you can in fact read numbers. Please, read what it says on the front of this lead locomotive and then tell me what it says. Thirdly, I don't mention #1408 because it doesn't appear in this video. Yes, that was the lead locomotive on the train that derailed. However, since everybody who has looked at any of the pictures knows that was the engine that wrecked, I didn't feel the need to mention it here. This video is not meant to serve as another recitation of the story surrounding the derailment; we have professional news sources for that. This is merely footage of the derailed trainset the night before (which, get this, is exactly what it says in the title. Imagine that!) Finally, I'm being stubborn because I know I'm right. And when you're right, there's no reason to back down.
It appears that the number on this trailing unit is #9025.
Yeah. So?
Thanks for the very beautiful weekend, Multi. I'll never forget your gentleness, the movie, the meals you cooked. You don't have to be ashamed. You have a wonderful heart that makes up for it.
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Uh, the brand-new Siemens loco is absent, so it is NOT the derailed consist.
The entire Talgo trainset that you see here, the Mt. Adams, is the one that went on the ground, along with this train's lead engine, #181.
Sorry, but no. This consist has a WSDOT F40 at the rear. It does NOT include WDTX1402, which was the lead unit on the derailed train. And, P42 181 stayed on the rails. Not talking the Talgo set, the ENTIRE consist.
Was the F40 involved in the wreck? No. Did the P42 actually leave the rails? No. Do I stand corrected on a very minor poor choice of a single word? Yes. Are you being incredibly nitpicky? YES.
Cut it out. Best you try to get the facts straight the first time- it's not complicated, unless you work with donnie. "Incredibly nitpicky"? BS. You're just sloppy, if you can't differentiate a F40 from a SC-44. Think. Out.
You are obviously a troll, since when the last dispute (consist vs trainset) didn't go your way, you decided to completely change direction and randomly claim that I can't tell the difference between an F40 and an SC-44, which has no connection at all to whether or not this equipment derailed. But you know what? I don't mind. You know why? Because every time you come back here to reply with some asinine remark that isn't actually relevant, I get another view. So by all means, keep at it. It only helps me.