caravan awnings - Air versus Pole awnings

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    In this video I compare air awnings to pole awnings and show which awning style is actually quicker to put up. In this side by side comparison, I invited Isabella to compare their Ventura Trinus 400 alongside the more traditional magnum 400 flint poled awning.
    I also discuss some of the pros and cons of each awning style.
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  • @michaelh.2473
    @michaelh.2473 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We have a steel pole full awning and it takes both of us over an hour to get it up before pegging. We are both over 60. So we are changing it for an air awning. My wife's foot couldn't put up with another pole falling on it! However, a good video Dan which does show that the carbon poles are an alternative to both steel and air.

    • @taichpaul
      @taichpaul 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get a Kampa awning pulley, best gadget we've ever bought for caravan. It makes it so easy to pull on the awning in seconds.

  • @graemeroberts5730
    @graemeroberts5730 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video! Result was very surprising and the look of the Isabella was far superior!
    We have a caravanstore zip system. We are going to be really looking forward to Isabella’s air awning being presented at Dusseldorf!
    Should be fascinating.
    😃😃🤔

    • @eldodos83
      @eldodos83 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the caravanstore zip too, great job

  • @M..R....
    @M..R.... 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We're still currently on one of your favourite sites at Burford and have a Leisurewize 390 air awning.We've seen many caravans come and go over this last week and all of the ones we've seen have had 2 or more people erecting them. Had this video been real life with 2 people erecting it I think the air awning would have been on the rail in no time ,inflated ,pegged and ready to use.
    We also use the air beams (6 off) as cushioning in the caravan when travelling.
    Now off to make some LED strip lighting following your videos....

  • @HortoncommonCoUkcaravansite
    @HortoncommonCoUkcaravansite 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Running a small caravan site and watching our guests put up both traditional pole and air awnings over recent years, the result fits with what we have observed. Air awnings are heavy and more difficult to get into and along the rail. However, I do think that air awnings generally cope better with higher wind speeds and gusts of wind.

  • @ianmcgarvey6897
    @ianmcgarvey6897 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Having used both air and pole awnings, I much prefer my Isabella Magnum, takes about 30 minutes to put up fully pegged, quicker than than the air awning which was a sunncamp. I found I spent more time fussing over the sunn camp as I could never seem to get it neat, also as in the video, found it heavy to handle. The Magnum is much crisper and not as much fuss. Great Video, it is all a matter of opinion though.

  • @jonathanslocombe1934
    @jonathanslocombe1934 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have just returned home from a very wet holiday in Wales with my brand new Isabella magnum flint 400 water poured in along the awning rail the awning was great apart from the mini waterfall will be contacting Isabella uk on Monday

  • @crazyslaine3458
    @crazyslaine3458 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as always. The summary implied that pole awnings cannot survive high winds, I have camped in some pretty horrendous conditions and a frame awning put up properly will happily survive anything thrown at it.

  • @dnallen
    @dnallen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video Dan, we tried pole and air over the course of seasons and went back to pole. Also on full awning you have better fit and seal than 390 or 400 awning. Love see your review on full vs porch awning

  • @laptopsid
    @laptopsid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It’s poled awnings every time for us.
    And we have had them both.

  • @lostweekendscaravan
    @lostweekendscaravan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Dan Well I didn't expect that result. Very interesting film. I think both Awning types are great. I personally would use Air for Touring and Pole for Seasonal Pitching. Great insight. Thanks for the mention. Phil & Juliet👍🙂

  • @ryanshort7435
    @ryanshort7435 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pole awning are excellent in high winds. I spent time in a caravan overnight with a pole awning set up with up to 50mph winds and I was just happy sitting there with no problems.

  • @thecaravanus4067
    @thecaravanus4067 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Dan, that has to be one of the best videos uploaded regarding awning comparison. I am biased towards pole awnings & wasn’t surprised by the outcome.
    In the short time we’ve been caravanning we’ve had both poled & air. I would now always chose pooled over air.
    Great video & thanks for sharing.

  • @sonjaianhattiescaravanadve4847
    @sonjaianhattiescaravanadve4847 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great video. Was so surprised that the air awning was quicker to put up. However at my age it takes me a lot longer to put my Isabella Marlin awning up, normally about 30 to 40 minutes fully pegged. Perhaps you could do a video on comparing how overweight nearly 60 year olds put each type up 😁😁😁 Ian & Sonja

    • @lynnebarkas6906
      @lynnebarkas6906 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought the pole awning was the quicker.

    • @sonjaianhattiescaravanadve4847
      @sonjaianhattiescaravanadve4847 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lynne Barkas. My mistake 🤪🤪🤪

    • @alansquire9476
      @alansquire9476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've gone back to pole as found the air awning too heavy to get round the rail with my arthritis. plus the airframe split on a seam on its 2nd use, even though it has got a built in safety valve .but airframe replaced under warranty in 2 days x

    • @johnob1824
      @johnob1824 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alansquire9476 me too

  • @darcyswan9150
    @darcyswan9150 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison. We have a large pole awning for longer stays and an air porch awning for weekends. I was thinking about replacing the larger one for an air awning, thinking that it would be quicker to erect. This video shows that would be a mistake. I'll stick with my Ventura Pacific. Cheers Dan - another informative video.

  • @ronaldyardley8965
    @ronaldyardley8965 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We bought a nice little light weight Isabella mina in 2014, quick and easy to put up and still looks good, my only concern is pole damage to our new caravan!.. 👍

  • @scotiajinker8392
    @scotiajinker8392 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My wife helps me feed our air awning into the channel, it’s a lot quicker than doing it solo, we also have an electric pump . Doing it this way the awning is up in around 10 mins with no hassle.

  • @nickfoster6139
    @nickfoster6139 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    entertaining video, thanks. Clearly the guy putting the air awning up got a sweat on a needed water to recover! The victor looked to have expended less energy! In the discussion air -v- pole I've just spent a frustrating week with my Air Ace pro 500. In windy conditions the thing developed several leaks and each morning was rather limp in several places. Such is life, I plan to replace next year with a poled equivalent or just leave all the kids bikes and stuff at home.

  • @ThisOldManOfTheSea
    @ThisOldManOfTheSea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There are 3 elements - erecting, taking down and packing away which need to be taken into consideration when comparing. For example the extra weight of the air awning is an advantage when taking down due to gravity but it’s probably harder to pack away. It would be nice to compare these 3 phases for a full comparison. Also, standing on the caravan step, and getting your arms higher, helps with pulling the air awning through the awning rails.

  • @kirstenfarr5071
    @kirstenfarr5071 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, felt the same way, we've had both and time is not what they say, very similar times to put up. Also agree poles are daughter and in rain poles have less pooling of water on the roof in fact I've seen one photo of an air awning where the rain had pooled so much it had caused the air beams to buckle in the middle collapsing the awning. But I will now stick to air purely because of how they deal with strong winds, we list an awning for the first time a couple of years ago. It ended up on the roof of the caravan with the poles damaging it.

  • @al9600mc
    @al9600mc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good vid Dan
    ill stick to my Isabella Magnum 250 Coal porch Awning, Best Awning we have had and we have had a few LOL

  • @TheCaravanNut
    @TheCaravanNut 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good informative vlog Dan. We have had a pole awning but now have air, is air easier......I don’t think so. The pole awning looks better, if we are on a sloping pitch the air can be awkward to put up and doesn’t site right. It is a great awning but will think carefully if we change it again. cheers Martin 🙂

  • @mikehallmark.8984
    @mikehallmark.8984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just been away and my air awning took 40 mph winds with no
    Problem but with any awning its the pegging out that takes the time which ever you have

  • @nickbell8634
    @nickbell8634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agree with a lot of comments about one feeding and one pulling the awning into the channel making it quicker. However that might have saved 5 minutes and looking at the difference in both once erect I'd rather spend longer and have the better looking poled one.
    Also reading all the comments there are a noticeable amount of caravanners who don't like their air awning or have gone back to pole.
    Poles are complicated to start with but if you colour code the poles and zips it soon becomes much easier.

  • @davideastwood3479
    @davideastwood3479 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good result for the pole awning and well deserved. It would be interesting to compare the dismantling of pole and air awnings including packing away. My observations are that to deflate is easy but the total extraction of air and the packing away in the bag is laborious and the pole awning will win again. Challenge thus set.

  • @tswthestallwoods3638
    @tswthestallwoods3638 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Having had both, we have gone back to the exact same poled awning, the Isabella Magnum flint 400 - as you know. Horses for courses, there are some that will prefer the air and others that prefer the poled such is life. 2 bags are easier to manoeuvre than 1 as the weight is split. Time wise as you show, there's really very little difference, so people just make the choice that's right for you, A x

  • @mickkingston1450
    @mickkingston1450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find my air awning better for my back ! With having a spinal disability the air awning is less painful to erect and i use an electric pump off 240 v using the outside socket . Easy as a pole awning with the wife helping pull the awning along the rail as i feed it in the same as the old pole awnings we had. The air awning has also stopped the arguments and tempers lost on windy days erecting the awning too with no messing with poles ! 👍😂😂

  • @rhinogooner
    @rhinogooner 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    We have had poled awnings and air awnings and use an air sun canopy. We prefer the air type. When putting the awning on we never had a problem sliding onto the van. I suppose it is better with two people, I hook a long handled peg puller through the ring on the top edge of the awning and pull while my good lady feeds it in and it goes on easily. We definitely put an air up quicker than a pole and using a 12v pump can guide it as it’s inflating.

  • @wiltsman1
    @wiltsman1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dan great video as always think it would of been interesting if your installers were not experts when I had a pole awning it normally took me ten minutes to work out which pole went where lol changed to a vango porch and main awning and never looked back.

    • @cathrynbagley8005
      @cathrynbagley8005 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree - also we generally have one person feeding into the rail and one person pulling so the air would have gone up faster.

  • @DorisDart
    @DorisDart 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for this valuable information, and certainly helps when making our first purchase

  • @HitchUpAndTow
    @HitchUpAndTow 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree, had both, but find pole awning easier and quicker to put up on my own.

  • @jamiemiller8910
    @jamiemiller8910 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I find taking down an air awning MUCH quicker and easier than a pole. The disadvantage of the weight for putting the air awning on doesn't have the same effect when taking down, and we've found taking down the air awning much easier :)

  • @kenwatson4890
    @kenwatson4890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have had multiple pole Awnings and can clearly state that the Isabella pole Awning is by far the best Awning in the world.
    I am considering the Isabella Cirrus Air 400 as my next purchase if I am only going away for a few days, however my pole Awning from Isabella will always be my Awning of choice.
    Most people don't erect pole awnings correctly but Isabella have a solution to that with the regulator tabs to make sure everything is even and straight.
    Air awnings I have looked at don't seem to pass muster in the overall quality and condensation capabilities apart from the Isabella Cirrus Air.
    There is a reason these awnings are expensive in the same way a car is more expensive because mainly the materials are better quality
    Great video by the way keep up the great work

  • @garydavis1528
    @garydavis1528 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Had both, I find air easier and quicker if short of hands to help. Near clifftop north Cornwall this year at Gwithian Towans had 56-68mph winds for constant 60 hours and it stood it very well. (I just bought and added some internal guy ropes to aid its shape / secure roof position more the first morning after it all kicked off to protect awning rail stresses and the awning material!) Some of those around us took pole awnings down, a few left up came apart with their pegs pulled out by the wind force and chaos that ensued! Ours stayed in and up fine though the sound of it under such stress raised concerns (hence my precautionary action with added internal guy rope) but it clearly demonstrated the air can take a strong battering ok if needs to. Both are good but I found dealers this year won’t take pole awnings with part ex now, only if air so when change c’van part ex you will have to dispose of any pole awning yourself later if it won’t fit your New c’van.

  • @paulandbiancaadventures3458
    @paulandbiancaadventures3458 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wasn’t expecting that. Interesting 👍🏼

  • @davecook3138
    @davecook3138 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video, Dan. I wish I has seen something like this before buying my Kampa Air awning.

  • @Warrior6504
    @Warrior6504 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’ve got an air awning and it takes me 15 minutes to get it up and corners pegged and it’s great in windy conditions. I’ve had pole awnings before and I’ll never go back to them.

    • @bbud2611
      @bbud2611 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But it leaks like a sieve!

    • @Warrior6504
      @Warrior6504 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      B BUD2 your right it does and this year it was really bad that bad I’ve reproofed it with two coats of water proof. Not been anywhere since so I don’t know if it’s worked yet.

    • @alancooke6630
      @alancooke6630 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We have a air awning that was pegged out correctly on hard standing gravel. During a storm it moved about on the gravel and the material on the base of the air tubes wore away. 2 layers of material shredded. Fortunately, still usable.

  • @janscott3031
    @janscott3031 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Dan, a couple of comments. Only Isabella have the regulator tabs as part of their awnings to allow for uneven ground !!! Also use of the Kampa awning pulley makes putting an air awning into the rail easy. I have one and can do it on my own in a lot less than 7 minutes. Nick T.

  • @andyupton5851
    @andyupton5851 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Should have done the video with 2 teams of husband and wife. After an hour the thing would be back in the bag and the caravan driven back home in silence. On a non related point I have tried both and own neither. 😁

  • @Caravanningwiththehoopers
    @Caravanningwiththehoopers 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting that a lot of condensation problems are down to the tautness, makes sense but it’s never mentioned. It’s clear these guys know what there doing, give that poled and air awning to someone that only puts an awning up a few times a year and I’d expect a different result, personally I have an air awning but I do think it’s a faff so much prefer my sun canopy

  • @ianreynolds1704
    @ianreynolds1704 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm not sure that this is much of a comparison as this is only half a video, because there is no mention of taking them down and packing them away. In my experience it takes 1/4 of the time to take down the air awning, which is why I now own one.

    • @TheTrudgians
      @TheTrudgians  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe that might be a future video? 😎

    • @ianreynolds1704
      @ianreynolds1704 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheTrudgians I look forward to it. Also perhaps it was just the camera angle, but the lad putting up the air awning looked about a foot shorter than the other one. Height is a big advantage when putting up any awning.

  • @NatSatFat
    @NatSatFat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dan, This test is not at all relivent! you had 2 guys, professional staff, who new their business and probably did not own the Awnings.
    When observing awnings being put up in CAMC sites, the normal and more accurate & reasonble way awnings are put up are with a couple, Man & Woman aged 50 plus, with their own awning (who love their awning a lot), sometimes they forget the sequence of erection and make mistakes and look annoyed at each other or have words?, and I have noticed the actual putting the awning into the caravan's awning rails seems to be the most"fun" (for an observer).
    I have had both myself, and it has taken me maybe 2-3 hours to fully erect an awning, this is with a steel pole full awning, (good job the were no axes nearby), and have recieved wonderful help from other caravanners always, and believe it or not I would call myself "competant",
    I love my air awning because it is so fast under normal circumstances ( except putting it into the caravans awning chanel), it beats my experience of a poled awniing, yes it looks better but no matter, its more peace of mind.
    So, your test was a good try, but totally failed in its intension, because of the guys doing it, way too professional looking.
    Great for showroom stuff but nothing for actual caravaners.

    • @HowardB54
      @HowardB54 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bryn Noble totally agree with you on this
      Why didn’t you get 2 regular caravanners of more mature years and get them to erect both - to reflect a real world scenario instead of this staged corporate event.
      What’s happened to your regular vlogs about ordinary caravanning? This is becoming more a commercially led channel with subsequent videos.

  • @robertkelly6751
    @robertkelly6751 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have both, but prefer the finish on the pole awning.

  • @jackfisher2668
    @jackfisher2668 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    We have just bought a air awning Isabella venture 390 like the plug in pump makes it a lot easier

  • @CaraVanOlogywithBecky
    @CaraVanOlogywithBecky 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting and useful test Dan and great delegation skills ;-) the most telling bit for me was that the chap who put the air awning up needed a good sized bottle of water to recover despite both “willing” volunteers being hugely experienced and fit! As I often put our awning up single handily I’d rather not have to break into too much of a sweat - at least until the kids are old enough to sort it all out, then I’ll delegate with a cuppa in hand ;-)

  • @hettysmotorhomeadventures4860
    @hettysmotorhomeadventures4860 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well done Dan, I agree that air awnings are heavy to put into the rail, we used to take all the zipped panels out to make it lighter, then zip them back before pegging. 👍

  • @CluelessinaCaravan
    @CluelessinaCaravan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good grief, those awnings cost almost as much as our caravan!
    For us, the decision to go with poled was purely down to price - we bought a Kampa Rally 260 for £230 which has transformed our enjoyment of the caravan. For us, it's never been about how long it takes to put up because whichever type we chose it was only going to be minutes either way, but for our budget it had to be poled.

  • @taichpaul
    @taichpaul 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yep, Kampa pulley and a good bit of wind and we'll see who's faster. Experience from a couple of weekends ago showed very clearly it ain't gonna be any pole awning that's for sure. The air awnings go up and look great and the pole awnings take forever and look like they were blown on to the vans.

  • @appleyardgardenwoodencraft8736
    @appleyardgardenwoodencraft8736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you think if one person is taller than the other taller finds it easier to reach up better just a thought 🤔

  • @RollingwithTheRobsons
    @RollingwithTheRobsons 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was surprised by that result. I did notice it's hard work putting the 390 air we have up onto the rail. Would be good if someone could think of a solution. I do think the wind resistance is a big plus for the air awning. We used to have to get up and take our old awning down as it used to really struggle with the wind.

  • @johnevans3858
    @johnevans3858 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Calling B,S on this one, anyone with an air awning knows,

  • @britsd6397
    @britsd6397 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Dan, I have a Kampa Air Ace 500 and a Ventura 250 carbon full awning. I was not surprised at the result and have always given the advice to not buy an air awning if its just for speed purposes only. Using an air awnings in windy conditions cannot be understated as it just moves with the wind and is quieter if its windy overnight as you have no canvas slapping on the poles. Also I have been using Mr Sheen in the awning rail for years and can easily put both up on my own. There is an advantage to air as you can get on with other setup activities while its inflating. Love all of your videos and this one is a real relevant one..

  • @funnyhow1972
    @funnyhow1972 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It would be interesting to see these being put up buy 2 people to see if it is as close.

    • @ooheaven1459
      @ooheaven1459 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I doubt it, as there would not be the issue with feeding the awing onto the rail which cost the air awning in this test. There are also clever ways you can tighten an air awning if the ground is slightly uneven, using foam pads between the van side and the air tube - a couple of good vids about that on youtube. It takes me and the good lady no more than two minutes to feed our Bradcot modulair onto the van, all three pieces of it on a 640 twin axle. Then she can make a cuppa while the pump inflates it.

    • @neiltroman6851
      @neiltroman6851 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      To get to same stage with elec pump and two if us is 12 mins

  • @Swiftadventures2019
    @Swiftadventures2019 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    We have the Isabella Capri north with carbon X poles, very sturdy once up.

  • @jamestrueman3462
    @jamestrueman3462 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm honestly not convinced by this (sorry Dan) - for two reasons 1) parity of awnings in the test, and 2) technique 1) Why did the air awning require an internal frame and a canopy awning frame, but the pole awning only required an internal frame? (small point - but the other variables were fixed, pegs, skirt etc.) Surely there are enough on the market to have selected two that either did or did not need external framing? 2) IMHO the way the air awning was put onto the caravan slowed things down (i.e. it was poor technique - surprising as he says he does this a lot?). This is because the awning was left behind Lee and far away from the caravan - so he was fighting with the weight and dragging it behind him. That's a killer and definitely contributed to (caused) the issues he had. If he'd positioned the weight of the air beams better (under/in front), he'd have had less issues and a quicker time (from experience feeding a Vango air awning myself). There's no doubt that an air awning is heavier - but this isn't a good test. The canvas of a pole awning is easier to run on because it's light - but with the right nack, I've found air awnings much quicker to complete, start to finish. Again, sorry Dan, normally your videos are clearly balanced and impartial. But this one just doesn't have that ring.

    • @AndyClarke1
      @AndyClarke1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Inclined to agree.
      Good tip for feeding air awnings on to the rail is to use a dog lead. With one person pulling and one person feeding it can be on the rail in seconds👍🏻

    • @jamestrueman3462
      @jamestrueman3462 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndyClarke1 I agree, with two someone feeding and someone hooked onto the pull loop make it a doddle. But as this was a 1on 1 I'll give them that. Although I've realised they were pulling on the awning edge - which I thought was a no-no? Dunno about Isabella's though. Not a great 'professional' demo if you're not.

  • @jhtech5807
    @jhtech5807 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The video showed 2 pros that do this for a living. Do a Video of 2 new people new to caravaing and see witch one does it quicker!! Money says the air awning would be up before the man with the poled stops Scratching-his head wondering witch pole goes wer!! am only new to caravanong and am sold to kampa allseason grande air awnings ,the materials of there awnings comparing to others iv seen is a massive difference in Quality and thickness etc, there easy to put up and take down . And once’s it’s up it’s up , iv seen the poled awning in action this year for my 1st time at caravan sites soon as the high winds start or the heavy rain , every one with a poles awning starts shiting them selfs and runing about pegging down extra pegs , checking straps , tightening poles ,putting extra poles in across the roofs to stop pooling , trying every thing they can to make sure there awning doesn’t blow away or damage there caravan ..so for me if something has the chance to break or damage your caravan it’s a no go brainer for me ..

  • @tonyvial7716
    @tonyvial7716 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. I always preferred pole awnings. Much easier to put up. But, I have had poles break or bend in high winds causing damage to the tent and van. Now using an airbeam awning. Much heavier and harder to put up but more forgiving.

  • @Robinms100
    @Robinms100 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awning related question, what lighting do you use for the awning? Also side note, thanks for all the videos, we’ve recently bought our first caravan and your videos have been my main source of research :)

  • @fat-shotgolf2937
    @fat-shotgolf2937 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My question - which would you buy? Air or Pole awning? And why?

  • @campingtipsogtriks9166
    @campingtipsogtriks9166 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great test

  • @brianknowles1727
    @brianknowles1727 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Air awnings won't damage your caravan with a falling pole.

  • @wanderingwakefords6850
    @wanderingwakefords6850 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for that. I am wondering if the same result would be on a campervan. As I suffer from Bronchial asthma so I think that pumping up an awning would do me no good lol.

  • @BobEarnshawMoHo
    @BobEarnshawMoHo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video and I guess the same applies to Motorhome Driveway Awnings. It's the weight of the air beam drive away awning when attaching it to the rollout awaning that slows it down.

  • @ConsciousSpirit777
    @ConsciousSpirit777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, obviously pole is best, stick with what works better, why change it.

  • @bentekrautwald6475
    @bentekrautwald6475 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Dan could you please do a revue on a Kampa Revo Zip?

  • @617539
    @617539 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dan, Very interesting, my own thoughts are tried and tested usually win (Isabella) and the air awnings are a fad. In the showrooms the air awnings seem to be good, but in the field I think the pole awning win.

    • @TheTrudgians
      @TheTrudgians  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Bernie, were about to have a go with a full poled awing for the very first time in a couple of weeks... wish us luck....

  • @boogoeswild5965
    @boogoeswild5965 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was really helpful! As a complete newbie to the caravan community - still working hard to save up for my first one - vlogs like this are invaluable for me! It's the only way I'm going to learn!

    • @billi996
      @billi996 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was a newbie about 10yrs ago. I did lots of research and when I got my first caravan I even went to talk to other people about their awnings, I asked if I could look inside and got their opinions on them. Made friends and got to learn about pros and cons, it helped us choose the right awning for us, hope this helps, happy caravanning

  • @terencebaker4269
    @terencebaker4269 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We have both, mostly use the air awning, my helper feeds the canvas into the rail, and I pull it through. This makes it very quick to put up, but as you say, uneven ground is a problem. We (and most of the others with air awnings) had to take them down recently in high winds, but as its a quick and easy awning to take down and put up this was not a problem.
    Great video's, always interesting and above all very helpful.

  • @Jabber-ig3iw
    @Jabber-ig3iw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a chugger I would like to thank the tugging community for providing us with hours of enjoyment on sites whilst you attempt to put up your divorces in a bag. I mean this in the nicest possible friendly way.😁😁

  • @thomaspridmore106
    @thomaspridmore106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had air awning kept going down overnight could not get out of van never did find why it deflated ,plus they are very heavy so not for me

  • @darthsarcastus1064
    @darthsarcastus1064 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having seen a number of airbeam tents fail in strong wind I'm not a fan of airbeam awnings and would probably stick to poles until the technology improves.

  • @RE_Bullet03
    @RE_Bullet03 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably a daft question but if the awning gets put away wet, do you put the awning back up at home to dry it out? And how if the caravan is in a storage yard without the space for an awning? I'm only asking as that's what has been drummed into me from a young age with tents from family holidays and camping with Scouts.

    • @TheTrudgians
      @TheTrudgians  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, not a daft question - so hopefully I can help.
      Try your hardest to get the awning as dry as possible, not always easy especially if its lashing down when you put the awning away.
      In essence, you need to air it out and allow to dry, so what we tend to do is take all the panels out of the awning and lay each one over the bannisters at home, lay out in the garden and even lay on the shed roof. Some folk, put up an awning rail in the garden to help with such occasions. Once dry, re pack and when you put it up next, thats the time to build it back, and put all the panels back into the awning.
      Hope that helps.

    • @RE_Bullet03
      @RE_Bullet03 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheTrudgians Thanks!! That has been a great help. Got our first weekend away in our caravan coming up in a couple of weeks and can't wait!

  • @graemescarbrough7029
    @graemescarbrough7029 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We've had our Vango Kalari air awning for two years now, and it hasn't grown on me as I hoped. Main complaints are the weight - it's extremely heavy to manipulate onto the rail - and, the fact that there is no adjustment capability is extremely frustrating on the slightest uneven pitch. If it wasn't such an expensive item I would not hesitate in changing.

  • @HowardB54
    @HowardB54 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dan , what happened to that “project “ you were involved with with Andy Morley that was to be crowd funded and needed investors or similar etc - I seem to remember a “wait for the big announcement “ - Did I miss that ?

  • @kenroberts6907
    @kenroberts6907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just purchased a Vango Balletto 200 air awning simply as I have a disabled wife and it was hard for me to put up a pole awning on my own (I am 70 years old soon) . I was also concerned that a pole may accidentally damaged the side of the caravan. I found putting up the air awning so much easier. Another great video Dan .

  • @Ifyoudonttakeitucantfakeit
    @Ifyoudonttakeitucantfakeit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Air awning on a motor home was impossible to re-connect. Sold after a month and don’t bother now.

  • @StephenOsborne-nz3cd
    @StephenOsborne-nz3cd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve had both pole and air awnings. By far the hardest part of effecting an air awning is pulling the entire weight through the awning channel by myself. On the plus side once the awning is in place correctly, inflating with an electric pump is far easier than trying to balance awning poles especially when a little gust of wind keeps taking your awning. Pros and cons to both.

  • @eileenfleet574
    @eileenfleet574 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would like to know were vent are on air awaiting

    • @TheTrudgians
      @TheTrudgians  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Eileen, it depends on the make and also the model. On this Air Trinus, the vent is on the corner. Others its in the middle.

  • @tomaszrapala8085
    @tomaszrapala8085 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Dan and followers ! ;)
    I love your vids ! Keep up the good work ! I'm planning on some free camping and looking for a good reliable battery. Any suggestion on them, or brands ? THANK YOU ALL ! :)

  • @peteyourdoom
    @peteyourdoom 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video! We've just changed awning as we had an air one but the fabric at the top eventually got damaged and letting in water. We've got a pole awning one but it's no heavier.

  • @bill1727
    @bill1727 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a poled awning on a seasonal site where other residents had air awnings. In recent stormy weather, the air awnings were ripped from the vans. Not a good result for air awnings!

  • @patd4u2
    @patd4u2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the Kampa Rally Air Pro 260 and the Kampa Rally 330 poled, I purchased them for my Promaster high top van. The Air poled version is very difficult for me to get through the rail on my own, I am completely shattered after getting it completely installed due to the weight. The poled version is a little easier for me to put up especially if I unzip and remove the side doors before sliding it through the rail. With two people it is a lot easier but for one person on their own it can wear you out. plus I am 63 and that makes it worse.

  • @hammie2012
    @hammie2012 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine this with also a roofbed possibility, and I see 2 sides of foldeble options for slightly more spice, or indoor roofbed path.

  • @abo65uk
    @abo65uk 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi dan, at the end of the vid you thank Isabella for coming down and filming with you, but not Ventura, it's not biased in any way is it?

    • @rogerhambly1973
      @rogerhambly1973 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Isabella own Ventura. Same company. So not biased

  • @CaravanningwiththeCoxs
    @CaravanningwiththeCoxs 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If anyone wants an Awning for a seasonal pitch don’t buy poles as they snap under high winds. Air is much better. We have first have experience and when the snap they make horrible marks on the side of your caravan.

  • @bluetonic9538
    @bluetonic9538 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I'll keep my 12 year old Magnum 400, still looks like new

  • @josephjackson5330
    @josephjackson5330 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Air tents are dangerous when thay go I was frown 30 meters over a wall frightening especially it a child was in there or a pet never again .

  • @johnob1824
    @johnob1824 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    iv had both and poled is easier to put up, my poles are external and it takes me about 10 more minuets to set up, putting down is much quicker. plus i think the poled look a lot neater. also on uneven land the air had gaps at one end, did not like it. air can fit into a single bag but its a heavy bag.

  • @davethompson6726
    @davethompson6726 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good video but needs to clarify if a pole or Air awning which is better for seasonal pitches also steel poles or carbon fiber we have a Vango 360 air awning and a Isabella seed 1000 steel poles?

    • @juliechaplin5251
      @juliechaplin5251 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      May I ask which you prefer for a seasonal pitch and why? I will be getting my first caravan soon and will be getting an awning for it. It will be on a seasonal pitch. Many thanks.

    • @davethompson6726
      @davethompson6726 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Julie we prefer the pole awning it’s sturdy in windy weather to leave up we found out that the air awning over a period of two /three weeks had to pump up the beams a couple of psi as they had slightly deflated but make sure when you buy yours the material is suitable for seasonal use when we tour we use our air awning just to save time when setting up

    • @juliechaplin5251
      @juliechaplin5251 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dave Thompson thanks for your reply. I was originally thinking of Kampa air but then swung to a dorema garda ( both suitable for seasonal pitches). It does seem that everyone has very different experiences. Some say air is better in high winds and that even the thick steel poles snap, and other say that poled awnings stand up better to high winds. I had the same sort of “confusion” when I wanted to treat my self to an all singing all dancing sewing machine 😂😂😂. I’ll work it out. Thanks again for your helpful reply.

  • @outwrite11
    @outwrite11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Scott Mills should use this video for his 'Innuendo bingo' game on Radio 1 :)

  • @JREH21
    @JREH21 ปีที่แล้ว

    It takes us an age just sorting out which pole goes where.

  • @alberthill4168
    @alberthill4168 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We are sure pole awning are best as we got a tear in our royal wessex air beam awning roof which you can not repair as pole awning you can repair

  • @davedyer3654
    @davedyer3654 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I use a Kampa Air Beam on my Bessacarr 645, best money I ever spent, so much easier to erect (electric pump) and in a recent storm I didn't need to constantly monitor it, it flexed in the wind and I was seriously impressed. For me, Air awning every time, especially on a big van.

  • @mikael3201
    @mikael3201 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think if you are two and use electric pump the odds will change.

  • @MainGamingZA
    @MainGamingZA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why have an air structured awning tent and use a manual pump, surely an electric pump would be the way to go?

  • @angelarogerburtenshaw1360
    @angelarogerburtenshaw1360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We have had pole awnings for many years. We bought an air porch awning for short trips. Big mistake.
    With the pole awning we erect it with front and sides removed - pretty light.
    Each part is relatively light.
    We get no condensation
    We pack front, sides, roof & poles separately into the car, so we never lift the awning as one lump.
    With the air awning you are lifting and working the roof, fronts, sides and poles as one item.
    It is very heavy and unwieldy.
    There is far more condensation
    It looks untidy when erected.
    Taking it down and bagging it up
    You have to manage it as one lump.
    Overall - We wish we never bought it, if we could get rid of it we would, but there are large numbers of air awnings on Ebay. I wonder why?

  • @harry9392
    @harry9392 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    An electronic compressor would have made a heck of a difference

  • @chrishall6745
    @chrishall6745 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you use an awning puller this gets round the weight issue to a certain extent.

  • @greenroneye6516
    @greenroneye6516 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    And of course ...... you can't use the Isabella lampshade with the air awning. The most important benefit of a pole awning !
    I think a film extolling the virtue of this underused awning accessory is a must.

  • @retroMartin
    @retroMartin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about a Ryobi 18v air pump for the air tent? 🎈

  • @TheSpainy
    @TheSpainy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny to watch this. We had a coleman airtent for 5 years and then moved to a pole tent, and the pole tent was soooooo slow to put up compared to the coleman. The downside was that we had three of the tubes explode over the 5 years, and they are not cheap to replace. Plus two of the explosions also ripped the tent open, in very difficult places to repare so we ended up not bothering and using as is. Be interested to see how many inflations you get before they begin to explode.