Chemical Dipping a 1961 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider
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Today I am chemically removing all the paint and rust off this classic 1961 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider prior to its complete restoration. I’m going to take you through the process we use to completely chemically strip cars down to bare metal. This is a more thorough alternative to sand/media blasting with no chances of metal warping on thin panels. This process shows you exactly what you are working with and gives you a blank canvis to work with!
It is a 3 step process
Step 1) alkaline degreaser and paint remover
Step 2) Food grade Rust removing acid
Step 3) Water based rust inhibitor
The total process takes around 6 weeks because we use environmentally safe chemicals.
Company name: 3s chemicals llc
Location : Nanty Glo Pennsylvania
For dipping quotes and scheduling contact 3s chemicals directly
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Ill settle for a middle aged rich divorcee, hot with more baggage that TWA
*I hope this car gets a GOOD motor and trans. Like a K24, 2JZ, LS, Coyote, Mopar or something reliable and strong. Not a weak (Italian) engine.*
@@asmongoldsmouth9839 no it deserves a busso
8/10 stripper, the stubble needs work. Would recommend ahahahahha
@@asmongoldsmouth9839 what's the point of having an alfa without the italian engine ? "reliable and strong" is not what a beautiful italian car is about
I'm just happy to see a Alfa in such good condition from that age, truly rare
Agreed ! For an Alfa that age , it's in astonishingly good shape .
I am no car guy, but this is incredibly satisfying to watch. Well done.
In 1980, Redi Strip did the dip and strip on my 1953 IHC pickup. $5 years later the truck remains rust free. This is the best start for any project.
That’s awesome tho hear! It was a lot quicker back then too. They could use the good stuff lol
@@minute_of_dangle What do you use for the bath?
A lot of the lead work and maybe some of the filler was factory. The repairs are really well done! Back in the 50s & 60s coachbuilders, for example, relied on fillers to get the bodies to where they needed to be. Car manufacturers did that too but to a lesser extent. That body was built by Pininfarina and it's a credit to them seeing all those extremely tight and consistent panel joints, but filler was the order of the day for the final finish work quite often. And a beautiful car it is! Great job getting all that junk off.
By 61 Pininfarina was well into the 101 series, which was much more pressed panels than in the mid 50s 750 cars. Nowhere near the amount of lead that is on this car would've come out of the factory on 101 spiders, this was done later on in a restoration job. Bertone-built 101 Sprints were less consistent than the Spiders, however.
Filler was not used at factory,only brazing rod and lead where panels met up. Car likely went through many owners and sketchy bodyshops that don't know how or chose not to remove dents without automotive plaster/stucco...aka Bondo.
Correct, if only people knew how many new, original survivor not an ounce of bondo cars...had bondo in them
Painting one black had to be perfect
There was lead then there was no body filler at all so if there is lead work it would of been factory the filler was not done by the factory
That’s really interesting. Thanks for sharing that and thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it
Trevor - that is actually an August 1960 production Giulietta Spider Veloce. Very nice results - great work and video!
Really? Man I was so close lol. I don’t know a lot about them. If you don’t mind my asking how can you tell?
The model year is 1961, but I think he's referring to the idea that most cars are produced (and released) the year before the model year.
As far as it being a "Veloce", I don't think it's possible to tell without the badging.
@@BradleyBellwether-oy2qi This is indeed a Veloce model as presented by the letter "F" stamped in the firewall above the chassis number, along with engine brace present at the lower left chassis rail (0:36) and the split intake on the left side under the headlight and its corresponding hole in the inner fender panel. This is quite a find in this condition.
That’s was so therapeutic and satisfying to watch, and I loved the comment section reading a lot of restorers and car body repair experts give their 2 cents worth of knowledge and opinions, brilliant stuff
Adoro l' Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider anni 60. Grazie per il restauro.
I remember many years ago sitting on the floor of my 1959 Ford gas welding a repair into the floor. I didn't know they had attached the rear seat panel to the floor with lead until it melted and flooded down to where I was sitting. It was a memorable experience!
Well. Extremely good job. The body looks in immaculate condition.
Old alfa's are gorgeous.
This is gonna be a beautiful car I think.
Wow, very clean! Whoever did the body repairs to it before did a very good job.
Those terrible paches????
And I don't mean the lead work, that's factory.....
@@conceptalfa you've not seen a typical Alfa after the paint and bog is removed.
This shell is a beauty but yes needs some repairs. Normally half the car needs to be replaced
@@conceptalfa the floorpan repairs were well done????
My first car was a 1957 Spyder. Loved it. Such a pretty thing and fun to drive.
Wow ! This car has my age, I was born in 1961. Nice video thank you 😀
I had one of those in the sixties. What a wonderful drive that was. Happy to see you working on one.
Awesome job, well done. I really like the neutralising bath AFTER the rust removal. You guys know your business.
Quite likely the nicest 61 Alfa you'll ever see in Nanty Glo. Someone did excellent work on it in the past.
the best way to start a project
Looks surprisingly good for it's age
Body work was done by an expert. So well done!
Those terrible paches????
And I don't mean the lead, that's factory....
BOG CITY with 3/8th`s inch body filler !
@@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm Have polarroids of 3 5 gal buckets of bondo I removed from my 6y7 EL Camino when I stripped it
Never...ever buy a car in primer no matter how straight it looks lol
There is a reason why the italian manufacturers never saved weight by racing unpainted cars. Thier bodies were generally full of filler.
floor looks amazing - its actually there! ;)
Beautiful job. Excellent candidate, excellent results. Would love to see the finished project.
What a excellent shell wow
The 1961Giulietta spider was my first car... I should have kept it.... very good remembrances
I can't help thinking there must be the potential to design a more effective nozzle for your jet sprayer that gets under the paint a bit easier. Great show as always, thank you!
Thanks, I did enjoy watching this and have never seen anything like it before.
A really solid one.
we used to dip race cars in the 70s. Redi--Strip, cost about 300$. worked great. caustic soda. cars stayed relatively rust free while fabricating which in FL is a miracle as everything rusts.
Here in Ca dishsoap is practically illegal now.
Miss the pre- water based days of car paint.
Got to be good to make such a great job of the lead loading.
Gorgeus car❤ love old Alfas...
We restored a 53 Buick Skylark and it had at least 20 lbs of lead in each quarter panel behind each door towards the top and this was factory when they modified the Roadmaster convertible body so the there was a 'dip' in the body line on each side behind the door. In places is was an inch thick. It was in good condition so we left it alone.
That paint reminds me of the old Emron it comes off in sheets once you can break the bond.
It would be a great idea to be able to continue watching the restoration process. It would be very difficult to do it, but it would be a beautiful thing.
I showed this to my Alfa and now she wants the C3PO treatment too!
Excellent work, my uncle has a short wheelbase Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1300 Spider
This is one of those rare kind of car where everyone agrees it's one of the most beautiful cars ever made
Great job great outcome. Another great video. Thank you
Thanks buddy! I really appreciate that! I’m glad you enjoyed it
Beautiful car
Glad to see you back
It’s good to be back thank you! I was slacking on the videos there for a little
I love your channel Trevor
The pain coat thickness on this car is insane - almost a 2nd shell composed of bonds and primer.
No, that was a skim coat of body filler that made it so thick.
Most high-end restorations get a "skim coat" of bondo to hide any little imperfections that can't usually be seen until the paint goes on. Then they glare at you (especially darker paint colors).
There are aluminum spacers in the frame legs in front, they keep the frame from compressing when the suspension bolts are torqued down. The alkali bath will have dissolved those, there will be trouble in the future. Good luck. The legs will have to be cut apart, new spacers fabricated, then the legs will have to be welded up.
Nice work on the strip job 👍
Thanks Greg! I always appreciate your comments!
@@minute_of_dangle anytime 👍
Nice car !!! Glad your back,i thought you might have fallen in !!! LMFAO 😂
Hahahahha it’s good to be back. I was slacking for a little bit there.
that bath very inviting
Excellent gob with good results
Thanks buddy! I appreciate that!
great intro!!
Looks to be in great shape
good job! @2:35 i get Terminator 2 👍 Flashbacks 🤣🤣
Very nice,great video as always.just continue doing what you do best.😎😎😎👍👍👍
Thanks buddy I really appreciate that. I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Perfect
It must be a California or Arizona car its entire life, judging by the lack of rust.
These cars had ZERO rust protection when they left the factory 65 years ago, it's a miracle it still survives today.
Wow, looks like new.
Alfa Romeo Giulietta 🥰👍
Great job and a nice vid. A pleasure to watch, as usual on your channel. Greetings and regards !😊😊
Thank you! I appreciate you watching. I’m really glad you enjoyed it!
fantastic end result. the naked bodywork looks as good as perfect.
Please get more follow up on finished cars. I want to see the finished work
Will do!
Damn!! That body is the best body I have ever seen!!
Good work!
Thanks buddy!
Looks good
Awesome !
Back when that car was new it was common for the factory to put a skim coat of putty over the entire car.
I used to maintain a 1967 Facel Vega and it had about one inch over the entire body.
Oh wow, one of my dream cars Ill never own! Only seen 2 in real life
@@gordocarbo Venice, CA 1983-4
An inch seems a lot. It’s about ten times thicker than the metal. 😂❤
@@russcooke5671 If the sheet metal is a tenth of an inch....
@@3ducs ???
do you coat it after the treatment with anything. i knew from sandblasting that the parts rust after a few hours..... and btw: i love watching your videos!!!
It’s dipped and sprayed down with a water based rust inhibitor. Lasts 30+ days. Thank you I really appreciate that
Better than I expected for an Alfa.
Good job, my brother.
Thanks buddy! I appreciate that!
I owned a 1964 Spyder in 1974 when I was 18. Paid £250 for it! Wish I had it now....
Your job is mesmerizing :) how do you keep rust free after the baths? is not bare metal oxidizing the moment it touches air?
Please post more and more frequent videos 😅❤
OUTSTANDING : o .......
These cars had the battery in the trunk, and acid spills usually led to a lot of corrosion back there. This one looked to be in amazingly good shape.
Is it necessary to change out the acid and other tanks often?
Reminds me of the movie "House on Haunted Hill" with the acid tank in the basement.
Have you done any follow up on a vehicle that you dipped and what is looks like after the builder is done with it? That would be a very collo follow up video.
I have a few posted on my page feed. Two Porsches I have some pictures of that I have videos on. I’m trying to get some more. I’ll keep you posted
What is the different between dip and blast? Which is better to remove rust?
Very brave
It certainly was a good strip Trevor and the body is unbelievably good not at all your usual Alfa 👍👍🇦🇺
Thanks buddy!
When it goes to the body shop will they remove the lead?
All down the drain, bravo genius
I wonder what would happen if you put 6 or so ultrasonic vibrators in the tank. Would that remove the paint and Bondo (tm) off before it's hoisted out of the tank?
Whoever did that lead work knew what they were doing.
I am wondering do you also remove the stuff on the bottom of the car wich we don't see? It would be nice to have a view from under the car so we can see the bottom of it. This Alfa for it's 63 years of age looks amazing!
When you get it to bare metal how do you stop it quickly getting rusty again?
I thought I clicked on the wrong channel when you said you were a stripper. I thoughts lights would start flashing. 😂
Serious question, if the paint and filler are that loose it comes off in big pieces would it not be quicker to use a scraper / filler knife etc to knock the big bits off, at least on the wings etc that are easy to get to, then use the pressure washer on the more stubborn bits?
How many vehicles can you dip in caustic before you have to change liquid in tank? That was somethin how the paint flaked off in big flakes 😮. Did they use leading in the original making of that car? Are the bodies shipped, dropped off for you to dip?
A forbidden miso soup with spirito di Italia.
Amazing to see one so free of rust. Tinworm killed more early Alfas than anything else.
That is pretty labor intensive work! What does it cost ballpark for that car's treatment... Im curious about the expense
Wow, I wasn’t expecting that much bondo on it. It looked fairly straight but it was deceiving
Have you tried the laser method to remove rust and all paint?
Is there a pump with a filter that keeps the fluid moving over the car?
Yes that is cool Peace out
What happens to the aluminum reinforcements which are integrated into the chassis stretchers to reinforce the anchors of the front axle triangles?
They dissolve. This car will need serious surgery before reassembly. I noted that in my comment, too bad some research wasn't done by the owner before the car was dipped. I've done rotisserie restorations on two 1959 Alfas, a Sprint and a Spider, both Normales.
Still keen to see a full video on the jaguar 3.8 you posted only a few seconds off
It’s in the acid as we speak. Should be finished very soon! I can’t wait to get that video out!
I am not familiar with the chemical-dipping process. I assume some kind of rust preventative treatment is applied prior to shipping back to the customer? Curious how that is done.
Would it be possible to show a complete start to finish, as in getting underneath, inside all the areas with the pressure washer and how you get the inside all clean where there are no holes for the water/crud to run out - and also the final anti-flash rust chemical is applied. It would be super interesting to watch the 'finer points' of your work. HA - satisfying when you see a steel shell without rust - HA - and a few 'DAMN' when poor workmanship is uncovered. Thanks. CHEERS from AUSTRALIA.
super robota
Подскажите пожалуйста какие растворы используете и прикакой температуре? 😮
Am I the only one who had Terminator 2 theme playing in my head while the car was being submerged?