Legendary Magic Swords - The Dungeoncast Ep.332

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  • @baileywatts1304
    @baileywatts1304 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Really like vorpal being something any slashing weapon can have instead of just a sword thing, because one of the wildest items my players found once was a vorpal bullwhip. Good times

  • @shadomain7918
    @shadomain7918 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "One, two! One, two! And through and through
    The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
    He left it dead, and with its head
    He went galumphing back."
    'Jabberwocky' by Lweis Carroll, from "Through the Looking Glass"

  • @heskiador2752
    @heskiador2752 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Moonblades are such a cool weapon, I love that the runes are the embodiment of former users.

    • @abiggs4828
      @abiggs4828 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One for All roleplay commencing

  • @LordOfDarkness8296
    @LordOfDarkness8296 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The Defender is 100% worthy of being a legendary item for one simple reason: +3 Armor is legendary. Doesn't matter that a +3 Weapon is very rare. Since you can use the Defender to put all of its bonus into AC you basically have +3 Armor. No ands or buts about it. Defender is a situational +3 Weapon/+3 Armor.

  • @Toast_Deletes
    @Toast_Deletes ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ancient Red Dragons have 3 legendary actions, therefore you can't cut off its head, in 5e at least.

  • @TheShadowUzumaki
    @TheShadowUzumaki ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The weakness to cold iron is found on that monster's stat block. Usually, they take an extra amount of damage base on how big their hp pool is.

    • @epiccthulu
      @epiccthulu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its funny because cold iron is just regular iron. There is a poem where the term came from but it was literally describing the iron as “cold” temperature.

    • @christopherclayton5500
      @christopherclayton5500 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@epiccthulu Okay, but we also got the word vorpal from a poem where the word had no meaning.

  • @sunwarrior310
    @sunwarrior310 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In PF2e, the weakness is extra flat damage added to the weapons damage. So a balor who has "Weakness 20 to cold iron" would take an additional 20 damage whenever they are hit with a Holy Defender. Throw on the fact the HA is a Greater Striking Weapon which means you roll 3d12 instead of 1d12 on damage means it huuurrrrtttsss lol

  • @SH43418
    @SH43418 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Drizzt's Twinkle is from 2nd edition when a Defender sword could be anywhere from a +1 to +6. His is a+5.

  • @shadomain7918
    @shadomain7918 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Black Razor first appeared in the "fun house" dungeon module White Plume Mountain. As written the DM was actually not supposed to let the PCs escape with Black Razor, but I don't know anyone who did that, me included.

    • @shadomain7918
      @shadomain7918 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think there's a 5e version of White Plume Mou tain in Tales From the Yawning Portal, but I've never read that one. I I did a "reimagined version, where much of the module is its opposite, for 5e and Cypher System.

  • @shadomain7918
    @shadomain7918 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the +3 defender is legendary in the meta sense because it's been around since the AD&D DMG

    • @shadomain7918
      @shadomain7918 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      actually +4 in 1e, my memory's slow

  • @johnnyd9131
    @johnnyd9131 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Literally one of the most famous Forgotten Realms characters wields a defender sword - Drizzt & Twinkle

  • @babymordred121
    @babymordred121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Elric stories are fun! He's a weird character who's hard to love, but it's a wild series and setting! Plus, he's definitely an archetypal basis for the Hexblade subclass.

  • @WolfHreda
    @WolfHreda ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It'd be cool to have a Half-Elf character whose personal goal is to wrest their father(or mother)'s Moonblade from the grasp of a half-sibling who felt they were undeserving of it.

  • @shadomain7918
    @shadomain7918 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yeah the Holy Avenger was +5 back in AD&D, but really the game's philosophy has evolved a lot in the past 45 years

    • @sebbonxxsebbon6824
      @sebbonxxsebbon6824 ปีที่แล้ว

      The game has gone backwards I think.

    • @shadomain7918
      @shadomain7918 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sebbonxxsebbon6824 i meant that in AD&D PCs gained most of their powers from magic items (aside from a few high level wizard spells). IN 5e the focus is on the character, so they get incredibly powerful but the power comes from the character, they don't need as many magic items.

  • @arcticwulf5796
    @arcticwulf5796 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We rolled on random tables for loots for now high level dnd and now our party has two separate vorpal swords.

  • @leodouskyron5671
    @leodouskyron5671 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Congratulations on your FIRST 1 million view video.

  • @Sezren
    @Sezren ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just fir some confirmation/ clarity since you brought up The Legend of Zelda to a huge fan lol, The Breath of the Wild timeline is an amalgamation of both timelines into one. Which is loosely explained in the first Hyrule Warriors game 😉

    • @Mordalon
      @Mordalon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aren't there 3 timelines? One where young link returns, one where adult link kills canon and goes back in time, and then a third one where he looses?

    • @Sezren
      @Sezren ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mordalon You're right there the Heroes timeline where the hero of time wins, the Fallen hero timeline where Link loses and gets reincarnated and then the Darkness timeline where evil just straight wins forever. However, that timeline wasn't cannon from what I know

  • @cernunnos_lives
    @cernunnos_lives ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a GM/DM, make magic items more unique. Make them special without overpowering them. Give them 2ndary benefits or curses or characteristics. Have many magical items have drawbacks or personality as well.
    And definitely have the opponents using them or magical items they would carry. I usually made my own twists to items like the Defender or Luck blades, and even vorpal blades.
    Many of the items players will come across, are ancient. And will be fashioned in a historical fashion. Like making some of them from a different era, like the bronze age or from a different plane of existence.

  • @dominickfinch5693
    @dominickfinch5693 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is actually a single item that goes above +3. It's a +4 greatsword, I believe. The thing is that it's from the Stranger Things starter set and is only a +4 in the Upside Down. Otherwise, it's just a +1, I believe. I don't remember the name of it, though.

  • @margar9021
    @margar9021 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Red Dragon would not be killed by a Vorpal sword bc it can't insta kill legendary creatures.

  • @AustinKazda
    @AustinKazda ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Vorpal blade, fuck yeah!

  • @Biostasis5x7
    @Biostasis5x7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wtf, I have only been listening to vids for the last few months(been hiding the phone at work) but goddamn will is a big ol beast!

  • @wightmamba8085
    @wightmamba8085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Twinkle, one of drizzt's iconic scimitar was a +3 defender.

  • @Silvertrif0rce
    @Silvertrif0rce ปีที่แล้ว +1

    52:00 Hmm I would say 10ft diameter or if there's a + modifier add +5ft
    So +1 Vorpal 10ft thickness
    +3 20ft thickness
    Maybe magical resistance reduces it by 1/2 & immunity like slashing renders it the 5ft blade length
    I'm envisioning the magic extends it's reach

  • @epiccthulu
    @epiccthulu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    48:51 I mean if the blade is two feet long but the neck is 5ft wide…no decapitation. Also if the creature has a legendary action, it also is immune. So that’s every adult dragon
    59:46 there are forgotten realm novels that are about these blades. Every new owner generates a rune onto it, a magical effect it didn’t have before, and not only can the elf use that power…but it can use the magic of every rune that came before it. no your soul isn’t trapt in it lol

    • @Michael_1138
      @Michael_1138 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think William is confusing the Moon Blade with the Sword of Kas.

    • @epiccthulu
      @epiccthulu ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Michael_1138 Possibly!!!! He is a critical role fan if i remember correctly.

  • @benway23
    @benway23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was fun, thanks as always guys.

  • @Darrinhenshaw
    @Darrinhenshaw ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I did not expect this watch talk about thicc dragons LOL

  • @esstee0605
    @esstee0605 ปีที่แล้ว

    1 million views! That's so awesome guys!!!

  • @t20sgrunt36
    @t20sgrunt36 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Defender- drizzt, Artemis, and King Azoun have them as well . Can’t think of others. Also, one platinum= 5gp (edit in D&D setting)
    Edit2: love your guys videos, you are critically underappreciated. Keep up the great work.

  • @chadstinson9886
    @chadstinson9886 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Defender would be awesome for a blade singers with the spell sheild.

  • @josephparent7690
    @josephparent7690 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Magic swords? F*** yeah!

  • @robertparshall9807
    @robertparshall9807 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay in early editions, which I played.
    A defender sword was what a holy avenger wielded by anyone else other than a paladin was. If a paladin picked up a defender it would unlock and for them it would be a holy avenger

  • @justinmichael9043
    @justinmichael9043 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is a luck blade in the catacombs of Castle Ravenloft; so you can get it at a fairly low level - if you survive 😈

  • @David_Lo_Pan
    @David_Lo_Pan ปีที่แล้ว

    Do not forget "The Burning Blade of Ching Dai".

  • @Mr_GoR_
    @Mr_GoR_ ปีที่แล้ว

    5e Hydra loses a head when it takes 25 or more points of damage in a single turn. If all heads die, the hydra dies. At the end of its turn, it grows 2 heads for each head that died since its last turn (unless it took fire damage since then), then it regains 10 HP for each head regrown.

  • @coenistheman
    @coenistheman ปีที่แล้ว

    The vorpal sword can sever the umbilical cord of the Atropal, these guys did a video on that thing so go check it out for full context.

  • @reachcole514
    @reachcole514 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this episode is old but you can't cut off an ancient red dragons head with a vorpal blade because it has legendary actions.

  • @cameronpearce5943
    @cameronpearce5943 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope they cover the rod of many parts

  • @leetebbens8858
    @leetebbens8858 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A red dragon has legendary actions bud

  • @charlesstevenson2033
    @charlesstevenson2033 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think "Twinkle" from legend of Drizzt was supposed to be a defender sword.

  • @bjornancraite2266
    @bjornancraite2266 ปีที่แล้ว

    "The dragon would have no reason to come into range, it can fly!" Lol at assuming a 15th level fighter couldn't easily have winged boots, a flying cape, or just have the wizard cast fly on him.

  • @Silvertrif0rce
    @Silvertrif0rce ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the wish spell
    Essentially how I run it is 8th & lower has no issue ,if you want to do anything else your mentally projected to Mystras/ God of magics domain & plea your case to the God & if she accepts your wish works or she applies the stipulations or revokes your ability to use wish or DB style you cannot make that wish again.

  • @Sirricardo6
    @Sirricardo6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cast Enlarge on my guy with the Vorpal Greatsword...How big can the creature be Lol.

  • @emperorxander666
    @emperorxander666 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They need to do a named swords

  • @71Bim115
    @71Bim115 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been wielding Hazirawn in our Tyranny of Dragons campaign, and it just does way too much damage lol

  • @cdr1179
    @cdr1179 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm surprised and kinda bummed that they didn't add Dawnbringer or the sun sword 😢
    Edit: just realized they were doing non campaign specific items 🤦

  • @nickgal4175
    @nickgal4175 ปีที่แล้ว

    Driztz had a defender in the Icewindale trillogy

  • @harleycriswell8504
    @harleycriswell8504 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't cut off a dragons head. It has legendary recestince it only gets extra damage

  • @NamelessKing1597
    @NamelessKing1597 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh so there is a Paladin in Pathfinder it's just a sub-class underneath Champion (Cause).

  • @jasonzegestowsky3748
    @jasonzegestowsky3748 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back in 1e they had +4 Defender swords

  • @prodbysharki4244
    @prodbysharki4244 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shout out to Demogorgon

  • @chuckles486gaming8
    @chuckles486gaming8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Drizzt carries a defender aka twinkle buy I don't know of any other and his is a scimitar

  • @tko_5
    @tko_5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yesssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @veteran673
    @veteran673 ปีที่แล้ว

    If vorpal sword deals 6d8 extra dmg instead but i was a crit so doesnt it do 12d8?

  • @devantearquette4885
    @devantearquette4885 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's worth 6000 platinum not 60 if it's worth is originally 60000 gold

  • @laclarte3
    @laclarte3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know where the picture for the thumbnail is from?

  • @shadowbear209akaprincepint3
    @shadowbear209akaprincepint3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey dungeoncast if it's not to much trouble can you please make a lore video on the dretch?

  • @loganmcgee18
    @loganmcgee18 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, the Vorpal Blade says if '...a creature is immune to slashing damage..." they are immune to the decapitate part... not "if the creature is immune to *magical* slashing damage' or "*from a magic source*" or whatever. I could go either way on how to interpret that, but it does help a lot of the bullshit BBEG or other Legendary monster getting one shot, and I feel purposefully added for that reason.
    How would you guys rulethat interaction;if a creature has immunity to slashing damage, either magical *OR* non-magical it is then immune to the ability? Or only if it says the creature is "Immune to slashing"? If there even is there is one that says it like that.

    • @Aplesedjr
      @Aplesedjr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If a creature’s statblock says that it is immune to slashing damage then it doesn’t take slashing damage regardless of whether it’s magical or non-magical. I don’t believe any creatures are specifically immune to magical damage types but still affected by non-magical damage, so that shouldn’t be an issue unless you use a homebrew creature with that as part of its stats.
      Also, the vorpal sword’s description says that creatures with legendary action are immune to the decapitation, so big boss enemies should generally be fine.

  • @rickytimmons5294
    @rickytimmons5294 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doesn't an Ancient Red Dragon have Legendary Action? Wouldn't that, Rules as Written, Give it resistance to a Vorpal Blade

  • @tyrellhayward95
    @tyrellhayward95 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bold of you guys to assume that WoTC cares about lore.

  • @ZachScouten1218
    @ZachScouten1218 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    60000gp is 6000pp

  • @sterrre1
    @sterrre1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brian, how do you know you weren't the 1 millionth view?

  • @joshuaowens2418
    @joshuaowens2418 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do more long episodes

  • @-THE_META
    @-THE_META ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Defender sucks. It should have just given you +3 to AC along with being a +3 weapon. I have played a high ac character before but I would rather have 27 AC+ a more powerful offensive weapon than 30AC and now less damage and less likelihood of hitting, especially with a Paladin who gets less attacks than Fighters and needs to hit to Smite.

  • @robertparshall9807
    @robertparshall9807 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also who else besides a paladin can use a holy avenger?

    • @robertparshall9807
      @robertparshall9807 ปีที่แล้ว

      An artificer. After 14 level the artificer can wield and use its starting powers as a paladin.
      Love that artificer. So if going to hell with a paladin always being along an artificer.

    • @LordOfDarkness8296
      @LordOfDarkness8296 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertparshall9807 Thief Rogues can also use Holy Avenger and can even use it one level before Artificers can.

    • @robertparshall9807
      @robertparshall9807 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LordOfDarkness8296 yes but a rogue thief has to give up his attunement slot an artificer gets 3 more. So yes he can, but at more expense. Good luck

    • @LordOfDarkness8296
      @LordOfDarkness8296 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@robertparshall9807 Okay.... original question was "who else besides a paladin can use a holy avenger". Not "who can use it effectively".

  • @darnell1391
    @darnell1391 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pleeeeeaaaase help us learn pathfinder 2e

    • @Thedungeoncast
      @Thedungeoncast  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More Pathfinder 2e videos are on the way.

  • @devantearquette4885
    @devantearquette4885 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which weighs 120 pounds

  • @pcwarduke2055
    @pcwarduke2055 ปีที่แล้ว

    Defender doesn't have any lore because in older editions there were alot of swords far better.

  • @ajaykatal4026
    @ajaykatal4026 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can u plz help❗❕
    Hey i am a new player i want to play d&d😅😅but i don't know how to find a campaign online
    i really wanna play it and take a chance I've already made a cherecter sheet 😅so can any of you help me

  • @lloydlineske2642
    @lloydlineske2642 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's make fun of Covid! What a great plan! Never mind the millions of people who died and people who lost close family members that actually listen to our show! What could go wrong?!!?

    • @timothywootton5331
      @timothywootton5331 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shush snake, demon be gone, you are cast out from this comment section.

  • @DevonIngle
    @DevonIngle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If that's all your doing with wish your wasting that shit. There recommended wishes suck

  • @calebrenegar1992
    @calebrenegar1992 ปีที่แล้ว

    A-Serr-ra-rak

  • @calebrenegar1992
    @calebrenegar1992 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Organ donating is a scam. The hospital charges insanely for a organ they got basically for free