Really like vorpal being something any slashing weapon can have instead of just a sword thing, because one of the wildest items my players found once was a vorpal bullwhip. Good times
"One, two! One, two! And through and through The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! He left it dead, and with its head He went galumphing back." 'Jabberwocky' by Lweis Carroll, from "Through the Looking Glass"
The Defender is 100% worthy of being a legendary item for one simple reason: +3 Armor is legendary. Doesn't matter that a +3 Weapon is very rare. Since you can use the Defender to put all of its bonus into AC you basically have +3 Armor. No ands or buts about it. Defender is a situational +3 Weapon/+3 Armor.
Its funny because cold iron is just regular iron. There is a poem where the term came from but it was literally describing the iron as “cold” temperature.
In PF2e, the weakness is extra flat damage added to the weapons damage. So a balor who has "Weakness 20 to cold iron" would take an additional 20 damage whenever they are hit with a Holy Defender. Throw on the fact the HA is a Greater Striking Weapon which means you roll 3d12 instead of 1d12 on damage means it huuurrrrtttsss lol
Black Razor first appeared in the "fun house" dungeon module White Plume Mountain. As written the DM was actually not supposed to let the PCs escape with Black Razor, but I don't know anyone who did that, me included.
I think there's a 5e version of White Plume Mou tain in Tales From the Yawning Portal, but I've never read that one. I I did a "reimagined version, where much of the module is its opposite, for 5e and Cypher System.
The Elric stories are fun! He's a weird character who's hard to love, but it's a wild series and setting! Plus, he's definitely an archetypal basis for the Hexblade subclass.
It'd be cool to have a Half-Elf character whose personal goal is to wrest their father(or mother)'s Moonblade from the grasp of a half-sibling who felt they were undeserving of it.
@@sebbonxxsebbon6824 i meant that in AD&D PCs gained most of their powers from magic items (aside from a few high level wizard spells). IN 5e the focus is on the character, so they get incredibly powerful but the power comes from the character, they don't need as many magic items.
Just fir some confirmation/ clarity since you brought up The Legend of Zelda to a huge fan lol, The Breath of the Wild timeline is an amalgamation of both timelines into one. Which is loosely explained in the first Hyrule Warriors game 😉
@Mordalon You're right there the Heroes timeline where the hero of time wins, the Fallen hero timeline where Link loses and gets reincarnated and then the Darkness timeline where evil just straight wins forever. However, that timeline wasn't cannon from what I know
As a GM/DM, make magic items more unique. Make them special without overpowering them. Give them 2ndary benefits or curses or characteristics. Have many magical items have drawbacks or personality as well. And definitely have the opponents using them or magical items they would carry. I usually made my own twists to items like the Defender or Luck blades, and even vorpal blades. Many of the items players will come across, are ancient. And will be fashioned in a historical fashion. Like making some of them from a different era, like the bronze age or from a different plane of existence.
There is actually a single item that goes above +3. It's a +4 greatsword, I believe. The thing is that it's from the Stranger Things starter set and is only a +4 in the Upside Down. Otherwise, it's just a +1, I believe. I don't remember the name of it, though.
52:00 Hmm I would say 10ft diameter or if there's a + modifier add +5ft So +1 Vorpal 10ft thickness +3 20ft thickness Maybe magical resistance reduces it by 1/2 & immunity like slashing renders it the 5ft blade length I'm envisioning the magic extends it's reach
48:51 I mean if the blade is two feet long but the neck is 5ft wide…no decapitation. Also if the creature has a legendary action, it also is immune. So that’s every adult dragon 59:46 there are forgotten realm novels that are about these blades. Every new owner generates a rune onto it, a magical effect it didn’t have before, and not only can the elf use that power…but it can use the magic of every rune that came before it. no your soul isn’t trapt in it lol
Defender- drizzt, Artemis, and King Azoun have them as well . Can’t think of others. Also, one platinum= 5gp (edit in D&D setting) Edit2: love your guys videos, you are critically underappreciated. Keep up the great work.
Okay in early editions, which I played. A defender sword was what a holy avenger wielded by anyone else other than a paladin was. If a paladin picked up a defender it would unlock and for them it would be a holy avenger
5e Hydra loses a head when it takes 25 or more points of damage in a single turn. If all heads die, the hydra dies. At the end of its turn, it grows 2 heads for each head that died since its last turn (unless it took fire damage since then), then it regains 10 HP for each head regrown.
"The dragon would have no reason to come into range, it can fly!" Lol at assuming a 15th level fighter couldn't easily have winged boots, a flying cape, or just have the wizard cast fly on him.
I like the wish spell Essentially how I run it is 8th & lower has no issue ,if you want to do anything else your mentally projected to Mystras/ God of magics domain & plea your case to the God & if she accepts your wish works or she applies the stipulations or revokes your ability to use wish or DB style you cannot make that wish again.
So, the Vorpal Blade says if '...a creature is immune to slashing damage..." they are immune to the decapitate part... not "if the creature is immune to *magical* slashing damage' or "*from a magic source*" or whatever. I could go either way on how to interpret that, but it does help a lot of the bullshit BBEG or other Legendary monster getting one shot, and I feel purposefully added for that reason. How would you guys rulethat interaction;if a creature has immunity to slashing damage, either magical *OR* non-magical it is then immune to the ability? Or only if it says the creature is "Immune to slashing"? If there even is there is one that says it like that.
If a creature’s statblock says that it is immune to slashing damage then it doesn’t take slashing damage regardless of whether it’s magical or non-magical. I don’t believe any creatures are specifically immune to magical damage types but still affected by non-magical damage, so that shouldn’t be an issue unless you use a homebrew creature with that as part of its stats. Also, the vorpal sword’s description says that creatures with legendary action are immune to the decapitation, so big boss enemies should generally be fine.
The Defender sucks. It should have just given you +3 to AC along with being a +3 weapon. I have played a high ac character before but I would rather have 27 AC+ a more powerful offensive weapon than 30AC and now less damage and less likelihood of hitting, especially with a Paladin who gets less attacks than Fighters and needs to hit to Smite.
An artificer. After 14 level the artificer can wield and use its starting powers as a paladin. Love that artificer. So if going to hell with a paladin always being along an artificer.
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Really like vorpal being something any slashing weapon can have instead of just a sword thing, because one of the wildest items my players found once was a vorpal bullwhip. Good times
"One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back."
'Jabberwocky' by Lweis Carroll, from "Through the Looking Glass"
Moonblades are such a cool weapon, I love that the runes are the embodiment of former users.
One for All roleplay commencing
The Defender is 100% worthy of being a legendary item for one simple reason: +3 Armor is legendary. Doesn't matter that a +3 Weapon is very rare. Since you can use the Defender to put all of its bonus into AC you basically have +3 Armor. No ands or buts about it. Defender is a situational +3 Weapon/+3 Armor.
Ancient Red Dragons have 3 legendary actions, therefore you can't cut off its head, in 5e at least.
The weakness to cold iron is found on that monster's stat block. Usually, they take an extra amount of damage base on how big their hp pool is.
Its funny because cold iron is just regular iron. There is a poem where the term came from but it was literally describing the iron as “cold” temperature.
@epiccthulu Okay, but we also got the word vorpal from a poem where the word had no meaning.
In PF2e, the weakness is extra flat damage added to the weapons damage. So a balor who has "Weakness 20 to cold iron" would take an additional 20 damage whenever they are hit with a Holy Defender. Throw on the fact the HA is a Greater Striking Weapon which means you roll 3d12 instead of 1d12 on damage means it huuurrrrtttsss lol
Drizzt's Twinkle is from 2nd edition when a Defender sword could be anywhere from a +1 to +6. His is a+5.
Black Razor first appeared in the "fun house" dungeon module White Plume Mountain. As written the DM was actually not supposed to let the PCs escape with Black Razor, but I don't know anyone who did that, me included.
I think there's a 5e version of White Plume Mou tain in Tales From the Yawning Portal, but I've never read that one. I I did a "reimagined version, where much of the module is its opposite, for 5e and Cypher System.
the +3 defender is legendary in the meta sense because it's been around since the AD&D DMG
actually +4 in 1e, my memory's slow
Literally one of the most famous Forgotten Realms characters wields a defender sword - Drizzt & Twinkle
The Elric stories are fun! He's a weird character who's hard to love, but it's a wild series and setting! Plus, he's definitely an archetypal basis for the Hexblade subclass.
It'd be cool to have a Half-Elf character whose personal goal is to wrest their father(or mother)'s Moonblade from the grasp of a half-sibling who felt they were undeserving of it.
Yeah the Holy Avenger was +5 back in AD&D, but really the game's philosophy has evolved a lot in the past 45 years
The game has gone backwards I think.
@@sebbonxxsebbon6824 i meant that in AD&D PCs gained most of their powers from magic items (aside from a few high level wizard spells). IN 5e the focus is on the character, so they get incredibly powerful but the power comes from the character, they don't need as many magic items.
We rolled on random tables for loots for now high level dnd and now our party has two separate vorpal swords.
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Just fir some confirmation/ clarity since you brought up The Legend of Zelda to a huge fan lol, The Breath of the Wild timeline is an amalgamation of both timelines into one. Which is loosely explained in the first Hyrule Warriors game 😉
Aren't there 3 timelines? One where young link returns, one where adult link kills canon and goes back in time, and then a third one where he looses?
@Mordalon You're right there the Heroes timeline where the hero of time wins, the Fallen hero timeline where Link loses and gets reincarnated and then the Darkness timeline where evil just straight wins forever. However, that timeline wasn't cannon from what I know
As a GM/DM, make magic items more unique. Make them special without overpowering them. Give them 2ndary benefits or curses or characteristics. Have many magical items have drawbacks or personality as well.
And definitely have the opponents using them or magical items they would carry. I usually made my own twists to items like the Defender or Luck blades, and even vorpal blades.
Many of the items players will come across, are ancient. And will be fashioned in a historical fashion. Like making some of them from a different era, like the bronze age or from a different plane of existence.
There is actually a single item that goes above +3. It's a +4 greatsword, I believe. The thing is that it's from the Stranger Things starter set and is only a +4 in the Upside Down. Otherwise, it's just a +1, I believe. I don't remember the name of it, though.
Red Dragon would not be killed by a Vorpal sword bc it can't insta kill legendary creatures.
Vorpal blade, fuck yeah!
Wtf, I have only been listening to vids for the last few months(been hiding the phone at work) but goddamn will is a big ol beast!
Twinkle, one of drizzt's iconic scimitar was a +3 defender.
52:00 Hmm I would say 10ft diameter or if there's a + modifier add +5ft
So +1 Vorpal 10ft thickness
+3 20ft thickness
Maybe magical resistance reduces it by 1/2 & immunity like slashing renders it the 5ft blade length
I'm envisioning the magic extends it's reach
48:51 I mean if the blade is two feet long but the neck is 5ft wide…no decapitation. Also if the creature has a legendary action, it also is immune. So that’s every adult dragon
59:46 there are forgotten realm novels that are about these blades. Every new owner generates a rune onto it, a magical effect it didn’t have before, and not only can the elf use that power…but it can use the magic of every rune that came before it. no your soul isn’t trapt in it lol
I think William is confusing the Moon Blade with the Sword of Kas.
@@Michael_1138 Possibly!!!! He is a critical role fan if i remember correctly.
That was fun, thanks as always guys.
I did not expect this watch talk about thicc dragons LOL
1 million views! That's so awesome guys!!!
Defender- drizzt, Artemis, and King Azoun have them as well . Can’t think of others. Also, one platinum= 5gp (edit in D&D setting)
Edit2: love your guys videos, you are critically underappreciated. Keep up the great work.
1platinum = 10gp. Electrum is 1:5gp
Defender would be awesome for a blade singers with the spell sheild.
Magic swords? F*** yeah!
Okay in early editions, which I played.
A defender sword was what a holy avenger wielded by anyone else other than a paladin was. If a paladin picked up a defender it would unlock and for them it would be a holy avenger
There is a luck blade in the catacombs of Castle Ravenloft; so you can get it at a fairly low level - if you survive 😈
Do not forget "The Burning Blade of Ching Dai".
5e Hydra loses a head when it takes 25 or more points of damage in a single turn. If all heads die, the hydra dies. At the end of its turn, it grows 2 heads for each head that died since its last turn (unless it took fire damage since then), then it regains 10 HP for each head regrown.
The vorpal sword can sever the umbilical cord of the Atropal, these guys did a video on that thing so go check it out for full context.
I know this episode is old but you can't cut off an ancient red dragons head with a vorpal blade because it has legendary actions.
I hope they cover the rod of many parts
A red dragon has legendary actions bud
I think "Twinkle" from legend of Drizzt was supposed to be a defender sword.
"The dragon would have no reason to come into range, it can fly!" Lol at assuming a 15th level fighter couldn't easily have winged boots, a flying cape, or just have the wizard cast fly on him.
I like the wish spell
Essentially how I run it is 8th & lower has no issue ,if you want to do anything else your mentally projected to Mystras/ God of magics domain & plea your case to the God & if she accepts your wish works or she applies the stipulations or revokes your ability to use wish or DB style you cannot make that wish again.
Cast Enlarge on my guy with the Vorpal Greatsword...How big can the creature be Lol.
They need to do a named swords
I’ve been wielding Hazirawn in our Tyranny of Dragons campaign, and it just does way too much damage lol
I'm surprised and kinda bummed that they didn't add Dawnbringer or the sun sword 😢
Edit: just realized they were doing non campaign specific items 🤦
Driztz had a defender in the Icewindale trillogy
Can't cut off a dragons head. It has legendary recestince it only gets extra damage
Oh so there is a Paladin in Pathfinder it's just a sub-class underneath Champion (Cause).
Back in 1e they had +4 Defender swords
Shout out to Demogorgon
Drizzt carries a defender aka twinkle buy I don't know of any other and his is a scimitar
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If vorpal sword deals 6d8 extra dmg instead but i was a crit so doesnt it do 12d8?
It's worth 6000 platinum not 60 if it's worth is originally 60000 gold
Does anyone know where the picture for the thumbnail is from?
hey dungeoncast if it's not to much trouble can you please make a lore video on the dretch?
So, the Vorpal Blade says if '...a creature is immune to slashing damage..." they are immune to the decapitate part... not "if the creature is immune to *magical* slashing damage' or "*from a magic source*" or whatever. I could go either way on how to interpret that, but it does help a lot of the bullshit BBEG or other Legendary monster getting one shot, and I feel purposefully added for that reason.
How would you guys rulethat interaction;if a creature has immunity to slashing damage, either magical *OR* non-magical it is then immune to the ability? Or only if it says the creature is "Immune to slashing"? If there even is there is one that says it like that.
If a creature’s statblock says that it is immune to slashing damage then it doesn’t take slashing damage regardless of whether it’s magical or non-magical. I don’t believe any creatures are specifically immune to magical damage types but still affected by non-magical damage, so that shouldn’t be an issue unless you use a homebrew creature with that as part of its stats.
Also, the vorpal sword’s description says that creatures with legendary action are immune to the decapitation, so big boss enemies should generally be fine.
Doesn't an Ancient Red Dragon have Legendary Action? Wouldn't that, Rules as Written, Give it resistance to a Vorpal Blade
Bold of you guys to assume that WoTC cares about lore.
60000gp is 6000pp
Brian, how do you know you weren't the 1 millionth view?
Do more long episodes
The Defender sucks. It should have just given you +3 to AC along with being a +3 weapon. I have played a high ac character before but I would rather have 27 AC+ a more powerful offensive weapon than 30AC and now less damage and less likelihood of hitting, especially with a Paladin who gets less attacks than Fighters and needs to hit to Smite.
Also who else besides a paladin can use a holy avenger?
An artificer. After 14 level the artificer can wield and use its starting powers as a paladin.
Love that artificer. So if going to hell with a paladin always being along an artificer.
@@robertparshall9807 Thief Rogues can also use Holy Avenger and can even use it one level before Artificers can.
@@LordOfDarkness8296 yes but a rogue thief has to give up his attunement slot an artificer gets 3 more. So yes he can, but at more expense. Good luck
@@robertparshall9807 Okay.... original question was "who else besides a paladin can use a holy avenger". Not "who can use it effectively".
Pleeeeeaaaase help us learn pathfinder 2e
More Pathfinder 2e videos are on the way.
Which weighs 120 pounds
Defender doesn't have any lore because in older editions there were alot of swords far better.
Can u plz help❗❕
Hey i am a new player i want to play d&d😅😅but i don't know how to find a campaign online
i really wanna play it and take a chance I've already made a cherecter sheet 😅so can any of you help me
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If that's all your doing with wish your wasting that shit. There recommended wishes suck
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Organ donating is a scam. The hospital charges insanely for a organ they got basically for free