This is why middle siblings have a hard time been noticed. Even when they are noticed more than their older and/or younger siblings, people question "why?"
This was a great video, but if I may correct a fact that you got wrong in the begging, the fourth funnel of the Olympic class did in fact operate, however rather than venting smoke from the boiler rooms, it vented foul air from the hospital, kitchens, and smoking rooms from the ship. This is why when you look at films of Olympic, you can still see smoke venting from it, just not as much as three forward funnels. Also, as for the QM turning the wheel the wrong way, back in those days ships used tiller commands, which basically meant to turn the opposite way that you were ordered. They used these commands because of the old tiller ships which required you to turn the tiller left in order to turn right.
I knew of the functions of the fourth funnel, though it's purpose could have been undertaken through typical vents and exhausts. Naturally having a funnel instead looks better. Thank you for explaining the tiller commands. I was under the assumption that it was the wheel that would have to be turned in opposition to the order, not the tiller mechanism itself.
@@Terrier55Stepney no problem! And I agree with you on the vents thing. It’s better to have it all go through one funnel rather than millions of tiny ones.
@@StationGuyGabe9821 A massive stack as kitchen ventilation. Seems strange, until you remember when Olympic must've had a large kitchen. How else would her fine meals in the dining halls be prepared?
@@SodorTrain1225 It was planned to vent exhausted air from other areas of the ship so that the ship wouldn't need huge tuba like cowl vents to draft in fresh air tho WSL had a hard time getting it to work on the Olympic at first
In the movie when Murdoch says hard to starboard he was using a tiller command, which is basically left is right right is left. It refers to which direction the rudder turns not the wheel.
That "burn mark" was above the waterline on F deck around the pool and squash court. No where near the boilers or the coal bunkers. If anything that'd just be a shaft for an ash ejector
Titanic hit an iceberg, ripped open a third of the ship, and took two hours to sink. Britannic hit a mine and sank in 55 minutes. Olympic was torpedoed and nobody noticed until after the war when the ship was in dry dock. Costa Concordia hit a rock and sank in 15 minutes. Given a choice, I would rather ride on an Olympic class ship.
If we're talking passenger ships: Olympic and Aquitania If we're talking warships: HMS Warspite (Queen Elizabeth class), USS Johnston (Fletcher class) and Enterprise (CV-11)
"Thankfully, i've never come across anyone who's asked: 'wait, the film is based on a real boat?' " Me: *remembering that facebook post about a random guy who says that Canadians are stupid for believing the Titanic was real* thankfully..
@@ukaszwalczak1154 Basically i said i was angry that people actually think something like RMS Titanic isn't real and how much i wanted to nuke them, that was just my reaction, sorry.
Just because someone has an interest doesn't mean they have a "passion" for it. Sadly nowadays if you have a passing interest in Titanic it is assumed you have a passion ;)
@@SodorTrain1225 Technically, Warrior does have a point. Out of the entire Star Fleet, only Hercules, the ocean tug, is built to handle the open ocean.
Pfffttt!! That's nothing. I remember as a high school student when I was geeking about the Titanic in front of university students. One of them pretty much said the same thing!
1:32 Actually the Doña Paz only has the highest death toll from a ship sinking during PEACE time Meanwhile the sinking of the MV Whilhelm Gustloff costed the lives of around 9,000 people.
I'm actually really happy to see this video. Like most everyone, I started out a fan of Titanic, but if you take away the tragic disaster, the ship itself was relatively unremarkable. I hear all too often that Titanic is or was "the best" but there are other ships out there worth learning about. I myself would say RMS Queen Mary is my favorite.
Lovely video! I also recently had thought about why Titanic was much more famous or had more of a legacy then her sister did, and you gave a really great answer!! Nice work on this!
He's talking worst in peacetime. Overall, then yes, the Gustloff takes the cake (or the skull, or the top spot; whatever is better to say in this situation :P).
In my opinion, there is no disrespect in salvaging items from the Titanic. This is the way we will always be connected to this beautiful ship and the lives that were lost. We can always remember her in her glory when we see these artifacts on display. She
Yes but would you dig up a grave and take said person's grave belongings to "always be connected with the person" no, in this case it's the same, the RMS Titanic sank woth those items and the dead people died with them, it is a literal grave and should be respected as such, the items they may have taken could be belongings to people some maybe meaning something very important to those people and should be left untouched and undisturbed.
16:24 the order for “hard a starboard” actually meant turn left, “hard a port” meant turn right, this is because of the tiller commands since ships still used them at the time so they they didn’t actually make a mistake to turn away from the iceberg
I remember that Tom Lynskey, the former producer of Titanic: Honor and Glory did a video on the tiller commands in depth. It's definitely worth to watch: th-cam.com/video/ndse8-FekEE/w-d-xo.html
Quick thing on the steering. Steering orders where given as tiller commands not wheel commands. I've you imagine a small boat, the tiller is the stick that sticks out the front of the rudder to turn the rudder. To turn to port, you need to push the tiller to starboard. When ships got wheels, you turned the wheel port to turn port but you are still moving the tiller starboard, so the order is given as starboard. Nowadays you give commands to the direction you want to turn rather than tiller commands
Ah, I see! That clears it up a bit more, thank you for sharing that. It's confusing that the helm turns to port to turn the tiller to starboard, to turn the rudder to port and thus the ship to port...
For anyone interested, Titanic used the customary ‘Tiller Commands’ for directions. Before wheels, they used tillers to control the rudder (like a leaver directly connected to the rudder - still used on rowing boats etc). The short of it being you move the tiller in the opposite direction that you want the bow to turn. The direction ‘hard to starboard’ meant turn the bow hard to port - directing the helmsman to turn the wheel fully to port. The film is correct. Hope that makes sense. :)
Thank you for clearing that up, though I'm still confused... Surely "hard to starboard" would mean to turn the wheel to the starboard, in effect turning the bow to the port? Somehow it's easier to understand when in a row boat. xD
@@Terrier55Stepney I didn’t explain it clearly. The wheel turn is true to the direction of the bow (like a car), a tiller ‘turn’ is opposite. So tiller commands were in many ways archaic but I guess it’s a matter of having an industry standard. I’m sure it’s been changed now. I’ll see if I can find a video to explain it better than me!
@@Terrier55Stepney the Royal Navy switched over to ‘rudder commands’ in 1934, so let’s say somewhere in 1930s it became standard. Needless to say, they recognised the confusion too.
I am a ship and train enthusiast and I dislike titanic's popularity. I don't hate the ship itself but I think people need to shed light on other ships like RMS Britannia, SS Sirius, SS Great Western, SS Archimedes and the North River Steamboat. Britannia being the first in the cunard fleet, Sirius making the fastest transatlantic voyage of her time, 1 day ahead of the Great Western, Great Western was the first steamship to be built for transatlantic voyages (Great Western is named after the Great Western Railway), Archimedes being the first ship to successfully be driven by a screw propeller and the North River Steamboat was the first commercially successful ship.
Amazing video, though you brought up a question that I hope to answer. The reason Quartermaster Hitchens turned the ship to port when First Officer Murdoch ordered "Hard to starboard" was because, at the time, ships used tiller commands: Pushing the tiller one way would cause the ship to turn the other way. This was changed with the advent of modern rudders in 1923. Surprisingly, even as a kid, I understood the concept of tiller commands. Now, for the obligitary notes on errors in the video, which aren't many. I mean no disrespect to you, but hope to clear things up: The _Olympic_ was launched on October 20, 1910, and the _Titanic_ on May 31, 1911, less than a year later. The reason why there weren't enough lifeboats would not be to save deck space, but because no one could think of such circumstances happening, and even if they did, the end result could have been like the RMS _Republic,_ which took _so_ long to sink that photographs of the damaged area were taken. It would have been a logistical nightmare if the _Titanic_ had enough lifeboats, as the newspapers would no doubt have noticed, and most, if not every ship of the WSL, if not every ocean liner, would have to be withdrawn to put enough lifeboats on board. And while you could knock out that middle section to put more lifeboats, there's nowhere else to put lifeboats in place without stacking them and making the evacuation _more_ complicated. And the last two lifeboats on the actual _Titanic_ had to be floated off as there was no time to launch them. Even the new regulations put in place after the disaster sometimes did more harm than good, as is the case with the SS _Eastland,_ which capsized in port in 1915 due to being too topheavy, ironically partially because she had too many lifeboats. Alright, that's every error I could find, though I do have one final note: I recreated the _TUGS_ liner SS _Vienna,_ as well as the _TTTE_ ship SS _Roxstar_ in MS Paint; I hope to show them off someday.
Thanks for explaining all that Daniel, I appreciate the corrections. I now understand tiller commands refer to the tiller itself, not the helm, which is what I presumed had to be turned the opposite way to the order. I understand about the lifeboat situation, with the unpredictability of the boats having to be launched without land or a rescue ship nearby, as well as the fact there wasn't time for more lifeboats to be launched. I'll have to research the RMS Republic and SS Eastland, they sound like fascinating incidents. Those MS Paint works sound great!
I find her story and the fate of her sisters is what makes her so famous. I actually got interested in the Titanic when I watched a NOVA episode talking about Britannic, and Ballard trying to find evidence for what sank her over and over again. While Titanic was just a foot note in that episode, the musical score, the narrator's tone, it just intrigued me with how sad and disastrous her sinking was with such a large loss of life for her time. She's a beautiful ship, the hubris surrounding her building, and how she was, I suppose, the first story if a disaster unfolding in realtime that wasn't on some country. Kinda like hearing Apollo 13's issues and knowing that safety is so far away, hearing this disaster unfolding and being unable to do anything to help. The story of the ship who saved her is also kinda interesting. The Carpathia almost broke her engines trying to race to Titanic. Allegedly she wasn't able to go near her top speed after that night. Cunard ships are pretty nice even if they are not as grand as the White Star.
@@brandedswrdsman In fact, let's compare the two "Old Reliables". D199 was an arrogant and rude diesel who ended up failing and had to be pulled along by Henry, who had lost his regulator. RMS Olympic, on the other hand, served valiantly in the First World War, rammed a U-Boat, and was involved in several other collisions, none of which ever caused her to sink.
I kinda think of the Lusitania than the Titanic. Because the latter was just a matter of hubris and outdated maritime safety regulations. The Lusitania incident was an intentional attack that changed the rules of war forever.
at 16:28 when you said: "hard to starboard doesnt that mean turn right" back in 1912 they used tiller commands, they turned the tiller hard to starboard so that the ship would turn to port. it also wasnt the deciding factor that sealed the ships fate
16:28 is historically accurate though. In 1912, tiller commands were still being used. So the commands were kind of switched. Yes, Starboard and Port were still right and left. But the commands Hard a Starboard was giving the command to turn the ship left, and vise versa.
Britannic and Olympic are so criminally underrated. Olympic had a long and eventful career, surviving the first world war and many different accidents before it was finally scrapped in the 30’s. Britannic could arguably, be considered a miracle of the First World War, due to the fact they were going to pick up wounded rather than drop off wounded, and the large majority of people were able get off the ship(30 deaths due to some frightened Crewman launching the boats to early causing the boats to be sucked into the propellers and torn to shreds). This could have been a much worse result had they had picked up the Wounded before hitting the mine. Ontop of that; there’s also the Lusitania. A ship with arguably a worse fate and a more fucked up story behind its fate, Britain using it as a target to get the US into the war by putting ammunitions on the ship, being taken down by a Torpedo causing two explosions and sinking in 18 minutes, where as Titanic and Britannic had 1 Hour and roughly 2.5 Hours respectively. Don’t even get me started on the Wilhem Gustloff. Does the Titanic deserve to be famous? Yes. But we need to recognize more ship disasters that were arguably worse, and the stories behind them and the Titanic as well. Stephney, Not sure you have seen them, but I recommend you take a look at the Building the Titanic and the Saving the Titanic Documentaries, along with Lusitania Terror at Sea and Britannic 2000. I think you’d love them.
I remember hearing on a documentary somewhen that there was actually a ship near enough to the Titanic. In those days you had to wind the radio apparatus, the man operating it forgot to do this and so went to bed thinking all was okay. Had he wound the apparatus they would have received the message from the Titanic and more lives could have been saved.
Your channel is just my cup of tea (sssiiiiippppp ahh) I love Thomas and steam engines, I love model railways and many years ago I was obsessed with the titanic and sea fairing vessels in general. So this is going to be fun. All That’s needed to complete this is my passion for military equipment!-Das Mann
Fact is: the passengers have become famous, or were extremely famous at the time. There were heroes and villains, it was a complete story, and a terrible tragedy. There was a reason that tragedies captivate humans: because we learn. She was an utterly beautiful ship.
16:33 ship's with sails turns different and that is why they are turning left even if they say right because he is a veteran of a ship with sails Example On sail ship's direction Left=right Right=left
Excellent video as usual Max and at 20:52 Pride of a nation, a beast made of steel Bismarck in motion, king of the ocean He was made to rule the waves across the seven seas To lead the war machine To rule the waves and lead the Kriegsmarine The terror of the seas The Bismarck and the Kriegsmarine
Fun fact: When a u.s. senator inquired on behalf of American passages on board the ship. Ismay the president of white star line tried to send a coded message to basically get him the hell away by encoding his name as Yamsi... yea sooo stealthy. Unfortunately the u.s. Navy intercepted the message and the senator basically ordered him to the inquiry.
Right now the wreck of the ship is slowing disappearing but her sister ship britannic is still in fine shape though her bow was broke when she impacted on the ocean floor
Thank you so much! Finally some other people in the overall trains fandom which cares about ocean liners. I must admit I think Titanic is very over popularized and the actual story has been manipulated by the media but at least its remembered. My favorite liner is Mauritania without a doubt but Olympic is probably in my top ten somewhere. Thanks for a great video, I really enjoyed it!
Thank you for sharing your interest! I suspected there were others who appreciated ocean liners in the train world but it's still lovely to see I'm not alone. Good choices!
A very simplified version: Titanic is so famous for the following reason: "shes unsinkable". She sank. She was practically a giant lie and her creators were arrogant and didnt care about human lifes.
Titanic is not the ship with the most deaths. She became famous she was on her maiden voyage and was thought to be 'practically unsinkable due to her water-tight bulkheads.
Titanic could have recieved more press coverage after her maiden voyage had she not sunk. Because her schedule to meet the maiden voyage was really tight due to her fitting out being delayed twice as White Star had to prioritize Olympic's repair to get her back into service. She was just not fit to be seen prior to the voyage you might say Also it's actually the Canadian troops who called the Olympic "Old Reliable" when she was stationed to Halifax in WW1. And to say the Olympic offered to help the Titanic would be an understatement. From around 2am that night to dawn the Olympic wireless constantly blared out "Have you seen MGY (Titanic)" to other ships in the area. Listening to all the radio chatter that night it's just heartbreaking
When I think of ship disasters, I think of the Wilhelm Gustloff. Indisputably the most nightmarish and tragic ship sinking in human history. 6 times as many souls went down on that ship compared to Titanic, the vessel was filled 5 times over capacity so you can imagine the panic inside, the lights and electricity died instantly, it sank twice as fast as Titanic, began to capsize so few lifeboats could be launched, and it was during a violent storm also in freezing waters.
I’d say Titanic is so famous because it has one of the greatest irony ever: An unsinkable ship, sinks on its first journey. If that brag wasn’t made, I think it wouldn’t be so talked about. I always enjoy videos of just you talking! Keep it up!
While it is hard to say whether people thought the ship was absolutely unsinkable under any circumstances, it is clear that people believed that the passenger liner's safety design (by Thomas Andrews) was state-of-the-art, and some did describe it as “unsinkable” before it ever set sail.
Man this was spectacular loved how you mentioned the conspiracy theories but like also ignored them it was fun to watch, but I just want to say something: When she struck the berg Andrews first theorised she would capsize since she had got a heavy starboard list, but because of the coal fire (yes it did happen but in no way had effect during the sinking), they had to move coal from the starboard bunkers to the port bunkers and actually helped level out the ship and saved lives, but then Scotland Road on E deck flooded and the ship gained a port list. Also the reason the quatermaster turned it the wrong way was because of tiller command's, you turn the helm to port the ships turns to starboard turn the helm to starboard the ship turns to port so really he steered it the correct way lol.
I think after being rammed by a destroyer, running over a German U-boat, and running over a light ship, the Olympic should have been called " Unsinkable".
Thank you for sharing that! It is remarkable the ship didn't capsize. I understand tiller commands better now, though I believe that turning the helm to port would mean turn the ship to port, as hard to starboard refers to the tiller itself which spins to starboard.
Hard a-starboard means to turn to port. Titanic had no tiller and so to turn to port the wheel must be swung over to port, where once it would have been put hard to starboard.
@@That1LucaGuy Thank you for sharing that! My girlfriend is related Percy Taylor, who was the pianist/cello player in the band! There are several memorials dedicated to the band here in the UK.
Not typical video for this channel and watching this in my non-trains channel! Anyways for me Titanic is one of the reason why I continue to be intrested in Ocean liners and transportation in general.
When they said hard a starboard in the movie that’s tiller command. Hard a starboard the ship turns to port. It’s confusing I suggest looking at a video in stead of reading this uninformed comment! Awesome video!
That is an interesting topic idea, though I fear it may be a little too diverting from my usual channel content. That, and I don't know a professional answer myself!
That was quite a nice change from steam engines, you know what they say a change is as good as a rest. this opened up a whole lot of stuff to me, I didn’t even come close to knowing half of the of the stuff in this video, so I feel very educated right now thank you. Also I can name 5 boats off the top of my head right now too. Titanic Ten cents Theodore SS Willie Bulstrode
16:28 they were using tiller commands- so if you wanted to go to the starboard side, you’d turn the wheel to the left. So yes they were right in the movie.
Titanic is too overlooked, she used features that were already done before and nothing new. Her expansion joints turned out to not be as effective as once thought (proven on Olympic given near the end of her career Olympic had cracks where the expansion joints were). Titanic was just an oversized version of the Oceanic, the ship still used steam engines as the main mode of transportation while the smaller and more popular Cunard four stackers were using turbines, the rudder was too small, ventilation was horrible and made the trips uncomfortable, the fourth funnel didn't even prove successful with better ventilation for the folks in the engine room. and as a tradition is white star line marketing, only the portside of the ship was cleaned since that would be the side always facing the harbor. Had Titanic survived both ships would still have not brought in a better reputation of Cunard Line's Lusitania and Mauretania. Britannic may have served a bit longer (if she survived the war) given the ship had some more modifications that made the ship a little more enjoyable. I'm going by criticism of the Olympic and there is hardly any nice things said for the Olympic.
@@Daniel_Huffman Olympic had her stern overhauled with a better steering mechanism in the 1920's it still didn't do much, not to mention Olympic had been known the throw propeller blades left and right while doing these crossings and they had to be replaced every few months
Yeah, these are a ton of points made by Leonard Peskett, a naval architect for the Cunard line. He was not impressed with the Olympic class design and was very clear about that in some statements. When your best complement is on the amount of lights (ex. first class dinning room had 408 bulbs) that's just sad. Most people also preferred other vessels like Lusitania, Mauretania, and Aquitania when it arrived. The rudder was also a monster problem with these ships thanks to a slow reaction time upon turning the helm which gave a huge turning circle in comparison to other large liners. Then of course there's also the point that they were hardly ever booked out. In Lusitania's case, more cabins had to be added to handle overflow because the ship was always over booked, Olympic never had such popularity. So, yeah, not the best, not the worst, but overrated by a ton.
@@Daniel_Huffman You kinda have to rework the stern structure to handle a larger rudder, that's why it wasn't changed. White Star knew it was to small, but they did the WSL thing and ignored it because they can.
I like how to hat is in the corner of the thumbnail. hey wait a minute there are top hats on the titanic smoke stacks, what’s really going on here max?
To put a long story short, she's famous for the wrong reasons. That said considering the story, yeah: she deserves to be remembered. She should be remembered. As Winston Churchill once said: those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Love me my trains and Thomas, but thank you for giving Titanic her due this past week. My respect and love for you and your channel has grown even more than it already has. :)
If anything she was over shadowed by Olympic then Olympic was over shadowed by Titanic while Britannic is just left sitting in he corner
That's why Britannic is referred to as the "Forgotten Sister".
@@nigtcreature1837 good boi
Forgotten by many
But she is always in my heart
How was the Titanic overshadowed by the Olympic? ;)
@@WhatALoadOfTosca Because Olympic was the first launched, in the public's eyes Titanic was just another Olympic.
This is why middle siblings have a hard time been noticed. Even when they are noticed more than their older and/or younger siblings, people question "why?"
Relatable.
You on the right vid m8?
After the Titanic sank, 3 safety laws were passed: 1) Enough lifeboats for all; 2) Wireless must stay on 24 hours and 3) Lifeboat drills required
This was a great video, but if I may correct a fact that you got wrong in the begging, the fourth funnel of the Olympic class did in fact operate, however rather than venting smoke from the boiler rooms, it vented foul air from the hospital, kitchens, and smoking rooms from the ship. This is why when you look at films of Olympic, you can still see smoke venting from it, just not as much as three forward funnels. Also, as for the QM turning the wheel the wrong way, back in those days ships used tiller commands, which basically meant to turn the opposite way that you were ordered. They used these commands because of the old tiller ships which required you to turn the tiller left in order to turn right.
I knew of the functions of the fourth funnel, though it's purpose could have been undertaken through typical vents and exhausts. Naturally having a funnel instead looks better. Thank you for explaining the tiller commands. I was under the assumption that it was the wheel that would have to be turned in opposition to the order, not the tiller mechanism itself.
@@Terrier55Stepney no problem! And I agree with you on the vents thing. It’s better to have it all go through one funnel rather than millions of tiny ones.
@@StationGuyGabe9821 A massive stack as kitchen ventilation. Seems strange, until you remember when Olympic must've had a large kitchen. How else would her fine meals in the dining halls be prepared?
@@SodorTrain1225 It was planned to vent exhausted air from other areas of the ship so that the ship wouldn't need huge tuba like cowl vents to draft in fresh air tho WSL had a hard time getting it to work on the Olympic at first
In the movie when Murdoch says hard to starboard he was using a tiller command, which is basically left is right right is left. It refers to which direction the rudder turns not the wheel.
Thank you for specifying that.
I already knew that and was scrolling through the comments to see if anyone else had.
1:53 It's recently been revealed that the 'burn area' was in actuality a reflection of the Titanic's hull's shining coat of paint.
Really?? Where you got that news from??
@@zyancuerdo7392 The Titanic: Honor and Glory TH-cam channel.
@@PepsiAddict18 I see
That "burn mark" was above the waterline on F deck around the pool and squash court. No where near the boilers or the coal bunkers. If anything that'd just be a shaft for an ash ejector
I heard it was the pool room...
Most people: My favorite ship is Titanic, whats yours??
Me: O L Y M P I C.
Titanic hit an iceberg, ripped open a third of the ship, and took two hours to sink. Britannic hit a mine and sank in 55 minutes. Olympic was torpedoed and nobody noticed until after the war when the ship was in dry dock. Costa Concordia hit a rock and sank in 15 minutes.
Given a choice, I would rather ride on an Olympic class ship.
Me: *B* *R* *I* *T* *A* *N* *N* *I* *C*
If we're talking passenger ships: Olympic and Aquitania
If we're talking warships: HMS Warspite (Queen Elizabeth class), USS Johnston (Fletcher class) and Enterprise (CV-11)
@@michaelbujaki2462 Dona paz and MT vector : Both hit eachother and Both sank in 2 hours respectively
And blew up**
"Thankfully, i've never come across anyone who's asked: 'wait, the film is based on a real boat?' " Me: *remembering that facebook post about a random guy who says that Canadians are stupid for believing the Titanic was real* thankfully..
I AM INTO SHIPS AND PLANES AND SEEING THAT MAKES ME GO AMERICAN AND WANT TO AMERICANIZE HIM (using suns of course)
@@ivangenov6782 Wat m8???
@@ukaszwalczak1154 sorry, i just like ships and planes
@@ivangenov6782 Uhh, i wanted to know what you just said. Cuz i understood nothing you said.
@@ukaszwalczak1154 Basically i said i was angry that people actually think something like RMS Titanic isn't real and how much i wanted to nuke them, that was just my reaction, sorry.
"Closest we'll get to a recreation of the sinking"
*Sad Titanic: Honor and Glory Noises*
I more specifically meant a real life recreation, with real people and sets etc. I admire THG's work but it will only ever be virtual. Both are great.
@@Terrier55Stepney I see, yeah, I guess that's fair.
@@Terrier55Stepney but the THG is much accurate
And the Mengot theory is even more accurate than THG.
@@wilmarallensilva6746 still up for debate actually
This was a rare instance where I've missed a premiere.
Oooh, didnt know you also had a passion for this fine ship, good taste i see
Just because someone has an interest doesn't mean they have a "passion" for it. Sadly nowadays if you have a passing interest in Titanic it is assumed you have a passion ;)
@@WhatALoadOfTosca On this instance though, I do indeed have a self-proclaimed passion for Titanic. ;)
I must say, I love the thumbnail with those buff funnels topped off with top hats. Top Hat certainly can't compete with that.
Top Hat: I want more capitalist accessories to compete with Titanic.
Titanic: Shut up.
@@SodorTrain1225 Of course, Top Hat will never be a liner. He's not big enough.
@@NorthWestern1919
Warrior: I thought so.
Top Hat: (mutters) Give me strength......
@@SodorTrain1225 Technically, Warrior does have a point. Out of the entire Star Fleet, only Hercules, the ocean tug, is built to handle the open ocean.
Yeah: can't believe it took me so long to notice at first. Loved it. :)
Teacher here - One of my students literally said in a lesson 'wait the film is based on a real ship?' ...i literally face palmed
What grade
@@Oddity2994 Year 11s so thats 16 yr olds
Pfffttt!! That's nothing. I remember as a high school student when I was geeking about the Titanic in front of university students. One of them pretty much said the same thing!
Somewhat equivalent to the story about someone who never knew Paul McCartney had played in another band before Wings....
Could be worse. When my youngest brother was a freshman in high school, somebody in his history class thought China was a US state.
1:32
Actually the Doña Paz only has the highest death toll from a ship sinking during PEACE time
Meanwhile the sinking of the MV Whilhelm Gustloff costed the lives of around 9,000 people.
@Kenn Honson X i think he just edit that in or something bc that was not there when I commented-
I'm actually really happy to see this video. Like most everyone, I started out a fan of Titanic, but if you take away the tragic disaster, the ship itself was relatively unremarkable. I hear all too often that Titanic is or was "the best" but there are other ships out there worth learning about. I myself would say RMS Queen Mary is my favorite.
At 16:29 in terms of tiller command, starboard means to turn the ship port
Lovely video! I also recently had thought about why Titanic was much more famous or had more of a legacy then her sister did, and you gave a really great answer!! Nice work on this!
Thank you!
This guy: The Dona Paz was the worst maritime disaster
Russia: Laughs in Wilhelm Gustloff
I think dona paz is the filipino version of Titanic
He's talking worst in peacetime. Overall, then yes, the Gustloff takes the cake (or the skull, or the top spot; whatever is better to say in this situation :P).
Bruh, he said in peace time
Also, Germany owned Gustloff
@@LancerIHR Russians caused it.
This video was one of the best videos on your channel, maybe one of the best ship or Titanic vids ever! Please do more.
In my opinion, there is no disrespect in salvaging items from the Titanic. This is the way we will always be connected to this beautiful ship and the lives that were lost. We can always remember her in her glory when we see these artifacts on display. She
Yes but would you dig up a grave and take said person's grave belongings to "always be connected with the person" no, in this case it's the same, the RMS Titanic sank woth those items and the dead people died with them, it is a literal grave and should be respected as such, the items they may have taken could be belongings to people some maybe meaning something very important to those people and should be left untouched and undisturbed.
Titanic: is great
Britannic: comeing out of a corner
Olympic: still in the corner
RIP everyone on the Titanic
And to all the sailors that were lost on Dona Paz Willhem Gustloff Halifax explosion lusitania , and others
Arguably the Olympic had already shone for the 24 years in her service life as a wartime heroine and an ocean liner
@@runawaysmudger7181 I know
Lusitania: D E D
16:24 the order for “hard a starboard” actually meant turn left, “hard a port” meant turn right, this is because of the tiller commands since ships still used them at the time so they they didn’t actually make a mistake to turn away from the iceberg
Yep! This was changed sometime between the sinking and WWII if I remember correctly.
I remember that Tom Lynskey, the former producer of Titanic: Honor and Glory did a video on the tiller commands in depth. It's definitely worth to watch: th-cam.com/video/ndse8-FekEE/w-d-xo.html
Quick thing on the steering. Steering orders where given as tiller commands not wheel commands. I've you imagine a small boat, the tiller is the stick that sticks out the front of the rudder to turn the rudder. To turn to port, you need to push the tiller to starboard. When ships got wheels, you turned the wheel port to turn port but you are still moving the tiller starboard, so the order is given as starboard. Nowadays you give commands to the direction you want to turn rather than tiller commands
Ah, I see! That clears it up a bit more, thank you for sharing that. It's confusing that the helm turns to port to turn the tiller to starboard, to turn the rudder to port and thus the ship to port...
For anyone interested, Titanic used the customary ‘Tiller Commands’ for directions. Before wheels, they used tillers to control the rudder (like a leaver directly connected to the rudder - still used on rowing boats etc). The short of it being you move the tiller in the opposite direction that you want the bow to turn. The direction ‘hard to starboard’ meant turn the bow hard to port - directing the helmsman to turn the wheel fully to port. The film is correct. Hope that makes sense. :)
Thank you for clearing that up, though I'm still confused... Surely "hard to starboard" would mean to turn the wheel to the starboard, in effect turning the bow to the port? Somehow it's easier to understand when in a row boat. xD
@@Terrier55Stepney This is more confusing than the tea party in "Alice In Wonderland".
Mad Hatter: Waiter! There's a hare in my soup! 😄
@@Terrier55Stepney I didn’t explain it clearly. The wheel turn is true to the direction of the bow (like a car), a tiller ‘turn’ is opposite. So tiller commands were in many ways archaic but I guess it’s a matter of having an industry standard. I’m sure it’s been changed now. I’ll see if I can find a video to explain it better than me!
@@Terrier55Stepney the Royal Navy switched over to ‘rudder commands’ in 1934, so let’s say somewhere in 1930s it became standard. Needless to say, they recognised the confusion too.
Outstanding as always! I for one remember watching the Titanic 1912 Crash a number of times...
I am a ship and train enthusiast and I dislike titanic's popularity. I don't hate the ship itself but I think people need to shed light on other ships like RMS Britannia, SS Sirius, SS Great Western, SS Archimedes and the North River Steamboat. Britannia being the first in the cunard fleet, Sirius making the fastest transatlantic voyage of her time, 1 day ahead of the Great Western, Great Western was the first steamship to be built for transatlantic voyages (Great Western is named after the Great Western Railway), Archimedes being the first ship to successfully be driven by a screw propeller and the North River Steamboat was the first commercially successful ship.
What about M/S Estonia?
Holy cow I didn't realize this is from terrierstepney until the end of the video. I thought someone else made it. Good job!
It's got my posh, high-pitched narration all over it! Thanks.
"Some of which didn't even sink"
Aquitania: (in the back) _say it again_
Scrapped
Amazing video, though you brought up a question that I hope to answer.
The reason Quartermaster Hitchens turned the ship to port when First Officer Murdoch ordered "Hard to starboard" was because, at the time, ships used tiller commands: Pushing the tiller one way would cause the ship to turn the other way. This was changed with the advent of modern rudders in 1923. Surprisingly, even as a kid, I understood the concept of tiller commands.
Now, for the obligitary notes on errors in the video, which aren't many. I mean no disrespect to you, but hope to clear things up:
The _Olympic_ was launched on October 20, 1910, and the _Titanic_ on May 31, 1911, less than a year later.
The reason why there weren't enough lifeboats would not be to save deck space, but because no one could think of such circumstances happening, and even if they did, the end result could have been like the RMS _Republic,_ which took _so_ long to sink that photographs of the damaged area were taken.
It would have been a logistical nightmare if the _Titanic_ had enough lifeboats, as the newspapers would no doubt have noticed, and most, if not every ship of the WSL, if not every ocean liner, would have to be withdrawn to put enough lifeboats on board. And while you could knock out that middle section to put more lifeboats, there's nowhere else to put lifeboats in place without stacking them and making the evacuation _more_ complicated. And the last two lifeboats on the actual _Titanic_ had to be floated off as there was no time to launch them.
Even the new regulations put in place after the disaster sometimes did more harm than good, as is the case with the SS _Eastland,_ which capsized in port in 1915 due to being too topheavy, ironically partially because she had too many lifeboats.
Alright, that's every error I could find, though I do have one final note: I recreated the _TUGS_ liner SS _Vienna,_ as well as the _TTTE_ ship SS _Roxstar_ in MS Paint; I hope to show them off someday.
Thanks for explaining all that Daniel, I appreciate the corrections. I now understand tiller commands refer to the tiller itself, not the helm, which is what I presumed had to be turned the opposite way to the order.
I understand about the lifeboat situation, with the unpredictability of the boats having to be launched without land or a rescue ship nearby, as well as the fact there wasn't time for more lifeboats to be launched. I'll have to research the RMS Republic and SS Eastland, they sound like fascinating incidents.
Those MS Paint works sound great!
I find her story and the fate of her sisters is what makes her so famous. I actually got interested in the Titanic when I watched a NOVA episode talking about Britannic, and Ballard trying to find evidence for what sank her over and over again. While Titanic was just a foot note in that episode, the musical score, the narrator's tone, it just intrigued me with how sad and disastrous her sinking was with such a large loss of life for her time. She's a beautiful ship, the hubris surrounding her building, and how she was, I suppose, the first story if a disaster unfolding in realtime that wasn't on some country. Kinda like hearing Apollo 13's issues and knowing that safety is so far away, hearing this disaster unfolding and being unable to do anything to help. The story of the ship who saved her is also kinda interesting. The Carpathia almost broke her engines trying to race to Titanic. Allegedly she wasn't able to go near her top speed after that night.
Cunard ships are pretty nice even if they are not as grand as the White Star.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. That's a good comparison to Apollo 13. Carpathia and her crew deserve high respect indeed.
One thing, the Queen Elizabeth’s sister Queen Mary is now a museum ship in Long Beach, California, USA if you would like to visit.
I'd love to visit Queen Mary if I ever get to California, especially before her condition deteriorates any more.
Looks like the hotel just went bankrupt a while ago. I hope Long Beach keep her around
We need Elon to buy Queen Mary and refurbish it with his Dogecoin.
22:59 Look! It's Sunshine form TUGS!
"Why couldn't I be a liner I wonder."
-Tophat
What episode?
@@Dduedulz Not sure, I think it was probably the last one with Vienna
"Cause you're not big enough!"
- Warrior
Olympic deserves a lot more recognition
Indeed. She achieved great things.
Unlike D199, she actually deserved her title of "Old Reliable".
@@NorthWestern1919 Indeed, Mr. Oh, Heck.
@@brandedswrdsman In fact, let's compare the two "Old Reliables".
D199 was an arrogant and rude diesel who ended up failing and had to be pulled along by Henry, who had lost his regulator.
RMS Olympic, on the other hand, served valiantly in the First World War, rammed a U-Boat, and was involved in several other collisions, none of which ever caused her to sink.
@@NorthWestern1919 Aye.
Excellent video. I liked the museum footage: I’ve been to Belfast and Southampton but not Cobh, so I’ve added it to my destination list.
American and British authorities after being told that the Titanic split in half:
*OH NO!*
Anyway....
I kinda think of the Lusitania than the Titanic. Because the latter was just a matter of hubris and outdated maritime safety regulations.
The Lusitania incident was an intentional attack that changed the rules of war forever.
Certainly was a significant moment in 20th century history.
A Moment of silence for Top Hat that can't be an ocean liner.
But anyway, great video max, I really loved it :)
But Top Hat's not big enough. Just ask Warrior, he's clearly a genius.
Thank you!
at 16:28 when you said: "hard to starboard doesnt that mean turn right" back in 1912 they used tiller commands, they turned the tiller hard to starboard so that the ship would turn to port. it also wasnt the deciding factor that sealed the ships fate
13:56 Are there more pictures of the wooden Titanic model?
16:28 is historically accurate though. In 1912, tiller commands were still being used. So the commands were kind of switched. Yes, Starboard and Port were still right and left. But the commands Hard a Starboard was giving the command to turn the ship left, and vise versa.
Thank you for explaining this! I understand now.
Britannic and Olympic are so criminally underrated. Olympic had a long and eventful career, surviving the first world war and many different accidents before it was finally scrapped in the 30’s.
Britannic could arguably, be considered a miracle of the First World War, due to the fact they were going to pick up wounded rather than drop off wounded, and the large majority of people were able get off the ship(30 deaths due to some frightened
Crewman launching the boats to early causing the boats to be sucked into the propellers and torn to shreds). This could have been a much worse result had they had picked up the Wounded before hitting the mine.
Ontop of that; there’s also the Lusitania. A ship with arguably a worse fate and a more fucked up story behind its fate, Britain using it as a target to get the US into the war by putting ammunitions on the ship, being taken down by a Torpedo causing two explosions and sinking in 18 minutes, where as Titanic and Britannic had 1 Hour and roughly 2.5 Hours respectively. Don’t even get me started on the Wilhem Gustloff.
Does the Titanic deserve to be famous? Yes. But we need to recognize more ship disasters that were arguably worse, and the stories behind them and the Titanic as well.
Stephney, Not sure you have seen them, but I recommend you take a look at the Building the Titanic and the Saving the Titanic Documentaries, along with Lusitania Terror at Sea and Britannic 2000.
I think you’d love them.
Very late response, but nah.
No Olympic-class ship is underrated.
It does in my opinion, but the other ships like Junyo Maru and Wilhelm Gustloff need more attention.
What's the junyo maru???
I remember hearing on a documentary somewhen that there was actually a ship near enough to the Titanic. In those days you had to wind the radio apparatus, the man operating it forgot to do this and so went to bed thinking all was okay. Had he wound the apparatus they would have received the message from the Titanic and more lives could have been saved.
Your channel is just my cup of tea (sssiiiiippppp ahh) I love Thomas and steam engines, I love model railways and many years ago I was obsessed with the titanic and sea fairing vessels in general. So this is going to be fun. All That’s needed to complete this is my passion for military equipment!-Das Mann
Thank you! I'm afraid that's probably where we differ, as I know very little about military equipment! Sorry.
Me: Hey guy’s do you like my yacht?
My friends: OMG IS THAT THE TITANIC?!?!?!?!!??
Fact is: the passengers have become famous, or were extremely famous at the time. There were heroes and villains, it was a complete story, and a terrible tragedy. There was a reason that tragedies captivate humans: because we learn. She was an utterly beautiful ship.
16:33 ship's with sails turns different and that is why they are turning left even if they say right because he is a veteran of a ship with sails
Example
On sail ship's direction
Left=right
Right=left
Excellent video as usual Max and at 20:52
Pride of a nation, a beast made of steel
Bismarck in motion, king of the ocean
He was made to rule the waves across the seven seas
To lead the war machine
To rule the waves and lead the Kriegsmarine
The terror of the seas
The Bismarck and the Kriegsmarine
Now it makes sense.
Fun fact: When a u.s. senator inquired on behalf of American passages on board the ship. Ismay the president of white star line tried to send a coded message to basically get him the hell away by encoding his name as
Yamsi... yea sooo stealthy.
Unfortunately the u.s. Navy intercepted the message and the senator basically ordered him to the inquiry.
Thumbs up for the music.
Wanted something that felt appropriately Irish and what I found was ideal. Credit at the end.
Amazing video as usual, and very informative. I also LOVE the TATMR jab, HILARIOUS!
Thank you Matthew!
Right now the wreck of the ship is slowing disappearing but her sister ship britannic is still in fine shape though her bow was broke when she impacted on the ocean floor
Thank you so much! Finally some other people in the overall trains fandom which cares about ocean liners. I must admit I think Titanic is very over popularized and the actual story has been manipulated by the media but at least its remembered. My favorite liner is Mauritania without a doubt but Olympic is probably in my top ten somewhere. Thanks for a great video, I really enjoyed it!
Thank you for sharing your interest! I suspected there were others who appreciated ocean liners in the train world but it's still lovely to see I'm not alone. Good choices!
@@Terrier55Stepney Thanks mate! Loved the video as always!
A very simplified version: Titanic is so famous for the following reason: "shes unsinkable". She sank. She was practically a giant lie and her creators were arrogant and didnt care about human lifes.
0:19 RMS what? I couldn’t understand over the hissing of steam.
RMS Tayleur.
0:18 can you make a story of the rms tayler
I guess so. So does Lusitania and all those other shipwrecks.
Titanic is not the ship with the most deaths. She became famous she was on her maiden voyage and was thought to be 'practically unsinkable due to her water-tight bulkheads.
Mr. Andrew: YES TALKING ABOUT MY SHIP!!!
Is he related to Mr. Andrews? ;)
Titanic could have recieved more press coverage after her maiden voyage had she not sunk. Because her schedule to meet the maiden voyage was really tight due to her fitting out being delayed twice as White Star had to prioritize Olympic's repair to get her back into service. She was just not fit to be seen prior to the voyage you might say
Also it's actually the Canadian troops who called the Olympic "Old Reliable" when she was stationed to Halifax in WW1. And to say the Olympic offered to help the Titanic would be an understatement. From around 2am that night to dawn the Olympic wireless constantly blared out "Have you seen MGY (Titanic)" to other ships in the area. Listening to all the radio chatter that night it's just heartbreaking
Is that image from The ulster Train museum near Belfast Northern Ireland if so I been to the place
Two inaccuracies I saw in the film:
Captain smith dying in the bridge, false he was seen jumping off the bridge wing with Thomas Andrews
No port list
Great work Max. I too am a Titanic and Lusitania Enthusiast.
Thanks Dylan!
what can i say! You have done another great video Max! IMO i'd say Titanic, Lusitania and Mary rose are most famous.. Cant wait for the next one!
Thanks very much mate!
When I think of ship disasters, I think of the Wilhelm Gustloff. Indisputably the most nightmarish and tragic ship sinking in human history. 6 times as many souls went down on that ship compared to Titanic, the vessel was filled 5 times over capacity so you can imagine the panic inside, the lights and electricity died instantly, it sank twice as fast as Titanic, began to capsize so few lifeboats could be launched, and it was during a violent storm also in freezing waters.
Nice one, Max. Looking forward to you taking on the movie 😉
I'll have to find a cause to at some point! Plenty to talk about I'm sure.
@@Terrier55Stepney yessss
I’d say Titanic is so famous because it has one of the greatest irony ever: An unsinkable ship, sinks on its first journey. If that brag wasn’t made, I think it wouldn’t be so talked about.
I always enjoy videos of just you talking! Keep it up!
Very true. Thank you!
While it is hard to say whether people thought the ship was absolutely unsinkable under any circumstances, it is clear that people believed that the passenger liner's safety design (by Thomas Andrews) was state-of-the-art, and some did describe it as “unsinkable” before it ever set sail.
22:59 sunshine only good for day work is he
-tophat 1989
Man this was spectacular loved how you mentioned the conspiracy theories but like also ignored them it was fun to watch, but I just want to say something:
When she struck the berg Andrews first theorised she would capsize since she had got a heavy starboard list, but because of the coal fire (yes it did happen but in no way had effect during the sinking), they had to move coal from the starboard bunkers to the port bunkers and actually helped level out the ship and saved lives, but then Scotland Road on E deck flooded and the ship gained a port list.
Also the reason the quatermaster turned it the wrong way was because of tiller command's, you turn the helm to port the ships turns to starboard turn the helm to starboard the ship turns to port so really he steered it the correct way lol.
I think after being rammed by a destroyer, running over a German U-boat, and running over a light ship, the Olympic should have been called " Unsinkable".
Thank you for sharing that! It is remarkable the ship didn't capsize. I understand tiller commands better now, though I believe that turning the helm to port would mean turn the ship to port, as hard to starboard refers to the tiller itself which spins to starboard.
No one asks to be famous, its popular opinion that decides on that.
Those who do certainly shouldn't be!
Hard a-starboard means to turn to port. Titanic had no tiller and so to turn to port the wheel must be swung over to port, where once it would have been put hard to starboard.
My mom's coworker is closely related to the violin player that stayed on the ship as it sank.
just kind of a random fact, but it seemed appropriate here :)
@@That1LucaGuy Thank you for sharing that! My girlfriend is related Percy Taylor, who was the pianist/cello player in the band! There are several memorials dedicated to the band here in the UK.
@@Terrier55Stepney That's so cool!
Description doesn't have the link mentioned at the end...
What it does say, is that I couldn't find the link. It may have been removed.
32:07 Can you do a video please on the particulars of the World's Dot Contest?!
Titanic was the 3rd ship I ever found out about but is by far my favourite due to its design and story
Not typical video for this channel and watching this in my non-trains channel! Anyways for me Titanic is one of the reason why I continue to be intrested in Ocean liners and transportation in general.
Definitely not a typical topic, but one I felt I wanted to address for a long time. Hope you enjoyed it!
I really appreciate this, it almost made me tear up
Thank you Justin, that's an honour to hear so.
When they said hard a starboard in the movie that’s tiller command. Hard a starboard the ship turns to port. It’s confusing I suggest looking at a video in stead of reading this uninformed comment! Awesome video!
They said Hard to starboard because the flap at the stern. If it goes that way the ship turns port and if it goes starboard the ship goes port
I love all the little jokes for the Titanic nerds :) The burns, the biggest ship, the novel "The Wreck of the Titan", CoNsPiRaCiEs GaLoRe... . . . .
If you know, you know. ;)
Can you do of why under ships there colour is red but not cruise ships
That is an interesting topic idea, though I fear it may be a little too diverting from my usual channel content. That, and I don't know a professional answer myself!
@@Terrier55Stepney ok
That was quite a nice change from steam engines, you know what they say a change is as good as a rest. this opened up a whole lot of stuff to me, I didn’t even come close to knowing half of the of the stuff in this video, so I feel very educated right now thank you.
Also I can name 5 boats off the top of my head right now too.
Titanic
Ten cents
Theodore
SS Willie
Bulstrode
It was a refreshing change. Thanks!
16:28 they were using tiller commands- so if you wanted to go to the starboard side, you’d turn the wheel to the left. So yes they were right in the movie.
1:36 r u giving shoutout to ph people here? Cuz I want
Titanic is too overlooked, she used features that were already done before and nothing new. Her expansion joints turned out to not be as effective as once thought (proven on Olympic given near the end of her career Olympic had cracks where the expansion joints were). Titanic was just an oversized version of the Oceanic, the ship still used steam engines as the main mode of transportation while the smaller and more popular Cunard four stackers were using turbines, the rudder was too small, ventilation was horrible and made the trips uncomfortable, the fourth funnel didn't even prove successful with better ventilation for the folks in the engine room.
and as a tradition is white star line marketing, only the portside of the ship was cleaned since that would be the side always facing the harbor. Had Titanic survived both ships would still have not brought in a better reputation of Cunard Line's Lusitania and Mauretania. Britannic may have served a bit longer (if she survived the war) given the ship had some more modifications that made the ship a little more enjoyable. I'm going by criticism of the Olympic and there is hardly any nice things said for the Olympic.
The _Titanic's_ rudder was not too small. If it was, why wasn't _Britannic's_ rudder made bigger?
@@Daniel_Huffman Olympic had her stern overhauled with a better steering mechanism in the 1920's it still didn't do much, not to mention Olympic had been known the throw propeller blades left and right while doing these crossings and they had to be replaced every few months
Yeah, these are a ton of points made by Leonard Peskett, a naval architect for the Cunard line. He was not impressed with the Olympic class design and was very clear about that in some statements.
When your best complement is on the amount of lights (ex. first class dinning room had 408 bulbs) that's just sad.
Most people also preferred other vessels like Lusitania, Mauretania, and Aquitania when it arrived.
The rudder was also a monster problem with these ships thanks to a slow reaction time upon turning the helm which gave a huge turning circle in comparison to other large liners.
Then of course there's also the point that they were hardly ever booked out. In Lusitania's case, more cabins had to be added to handle overflow because the ship was always over booked, Olympic never had such popularity.
So, yeah, not the best, not the worst, but overrated by a ton.
@@Daniel_Huffman You kinda have to rework the stern structure to handle a larger rudder, that's why it wasn't changed. White Star knew it was to small, but they did the WSL thing and ignored it because they can.
i guess this should be interesting, i here'd it a few times, but this time, i'm just gonna skip it since i have other plans to do.
14:38 (looks at the Star Wars, Star Trek, Ghostbusters, Doctor Who, and TTTE fandoms)
5:28 I HAVE THIS MODEL
How can this be, this is my model? :O
@@Terrier55StepneyWeLl YoU sToLe It
Plot twist : there is new titanic
Hard to starboard command meant turn the tiller to starboard side... so the ship could turn to port
and vice versa
Hard of starboard refers to the rudder direction - not the direction of the wheel necessarily.
You information is wrong regarding the Dona Paz at 1:32
Hard to starboard, as its a tiller command, means turn the tiller handle to starboard, which turns the ship to PORT
I like how to hat is in the corner of the thumbnail. hey wait a minute there are top hats on the titanic smoke stacks, what’s really going on here max?
To put a long story short, she's famous for the wrong reasons. That said considering the story, yeah: she deserves to be remembered. She should be remembered. As Winston Churchill once said: those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Love me my trains and Thomas, but thank you for giving Titanic her due this past week. My respect and love for you and your channel has grown even more than it already has. :)
Very aptly put. Thank you so much for your support, it's nice to hear you enjoyed the brief departure from trains.
18:43
Geneva Convention? More like Geneva Suggestion...
fun fact! 23 knots wasnt the fastest titanic could go boiler room #1 was never lit never through the voyage or the sinking!
Will you ever do a review of the Titanic movie?
One thing I don't get, how come her boilers didn't explode as she sank?
I think partly due to the stokers shutting the dampers upon impact and venting the pressure as soon as possible.