Guests: Shashank, Former Foreign Secretary; Prof. Pushpesh Pant, Foreign Affairs Expert; Balmiki Prasad Singh, Former Governor; Subir Bhaumik, Senior Journalist Anchor: Qurban Ali
Mr Subir Bhoumik, I don't know where are you from and what do you know about indigenous people of Arunachal Pradesh. But there is no doubt that you do know this Chakma and Hajong refugees very well. They might be your relatives. But let me tell you Mr Subir Bhoumik, they came to our land as refugees and they will remain refugees. And about us, Arunachal is ours and ours only. Our ancestors cultivated and hunted on this land. Our forefathers were headhunters. They fought and bleed for this land. If needed, we will do the same, but never share an inch to outsiders. Jai Hind, Jai Arunachal Pradesh. ✊
Some Mainland people were commenting on news about Arunachal as if they have ever done any Anthropological and sociological research about Arunachal. And as if they have Historical knowledge about Arunachal.....I wonder whether they have ever visited Arunachal. In support of Refugees, they argued that indigenous people of AP migrated from China and thereby, were trying to equate us with Chakma Hajong Refugees - run away n beaten away Refugees of 60s from Bangladesh by Bangladesh Miyas. My question to those experts... 1. When we migrated from China? 2. What was the status of India then? 3. What was the name of Arunachal before NEFA n before that..? 4. Have u ever heard of Excluded areas, partially Excluded areas, backward tract etc. etc.? 5. Have u ever read any anthropological, sociological work done by British explorer and others to know about d indigenous people? Have u ever tried to know about its oral history to know about the people? 6. Do you hv any idea that even after Independence, the area was Administered by Foreign Ministry till 1965 and not by Home Ministry? 7. Has Any Arunachalee raised Anti Indian slogan like Kashmir (inspite of China Claiming it as disputed territory)????? 8. How many tribes and sub-tribes are there? Fact is: 👉We wr never ruled by Mughals 👉We wr never ruled by Ahoms (infact, our people were paid revenues - Posa, read ahom buranjis.) 👉Britishers never ruled over us directly- infact, they protected our dying culture and population by drawing INNER and OUTER LINE of the extent of British Empire. Thanks to Britishers for preserving our identity. Yes, it's a fact that now AP is a part of India But know the history before commenting anything. We were never Colonised or Ruled over or were SLAVE to any foreign rule or were Chased away ..... So, don't equate our migration with Refugees - who migrated in 60s from Bangladesh. So, before, equating our migration with Chakma Hajong, do some research. Should I also say that India belongs to Dravidians?? And why double standard for Refugees?? 👉Want to deport Rohingyas(Muslims) but want to grant citizenship to Chakmas(Buddhist) and Hajong(Hindus) - chased away by Muslims of Bangladesh - and dump on our head in AP !!
You should to search map of kamarupa kingdom in which more than half part of Bhutan and whole western and southern part of Arunachal were a part upto 1128AD. And yes you should also search later sutiya or chutiya kingdom's map which includes southern Arunachal including Tirap district with north and north eastern part of Assam the ruins of ita fort is the monument of shutiya maharajas. You can search it either on google or come national archive in delhi for more information. And my dear if your arunachal was not the part of mughal empire then you should to thank Lachit Borphukan a great hindu warrior and also Ahoms and kamata puri kings. There are many parts of India which were not the part of mughal or with least impact of mughals like himachal and uttarakhand due to strong resistance of garhwal kingdom of Parmar dynasty and also some part of chattisgarh and odisha. Ahoms and nagas are also not the indigenous ahoms were tai people of china they came india in 1228 after defeated by haan people of china. They adopted hinduism. Well i am a mainland Indian with great attraction for history of north eastern India. In ancient time north eastern India was known as Kaamarupa and kalitas are ancient aryan people of north east. Love from tamilnadu namaskaaram🙏🙏🙏
Hi my name is zeenie mane from western Arunachal Pradesh. I belong to bokar tribe ,we have our oral history of 30th generation before and history of our tribe is also mantion in historical text of Tang Dynasty china way back in 7th century AD. In our entire history of 30th generation we never ruled or governed by any kindom or empire, even we never heard about British empire until 1980s.
By birth, descent etc according to constitution of India chakmas and Hajong are citizenship of India but as a Citizens Jo right milna sahye nhi mil rah hai..... It's very unfortunate to say.......jaldi se positive solutions Dena sahye
ARUNACHAL pradesh is under Bengal Frontier ACT atleast Bhomick as a reporter should know and we Arunachalee is not agaisnt citizen ship but should not allowed to settle in Arunachal.
We love and respect Rajya Sabha TV. No name but I think panelists should maintain the dignity. Impressive debate.Full of knowledge. We get the insight of both the sides. Thank you and respect Kurbaan Ali Sir.
Sirf Hajong Tribes Hi Bangladesho se nahi aaye aur bhi kayi jaati hai Jo Bangladesho se aah pohche hai India mai, woh jaati hai Garo, Muslims, Bengali etc. Aur Garo Jaati bhi toh Bangladesho se aaye huye hai toh unko unke Jagaa ka naam bhi diya gaya West Garo Hills Meghalaya aur woh bhi India mai kyun, aur Garo aise jaati hai Jo Christian Beptist hai aur Hajong ko abhi bhi nahi mila apna jaga, unhe bhi toh thoda jaga milna chahiye, unke liye kuch bhi namo nishan nahi dekh paa rahe hai Hindu Ho ke bhi kuch nahi kar pa rahe hai, hamare khayal se unhe sirf nagrikta hi nahi unhe apna Jagaa bhi milna chahiye aur unka Minister bhi Jai Hind....
Mr bhoomik we don't oppose the chakmas granting citizen.....but if chakmas r there in tripura than y don't u implement them in tripur......GOI we request u to protect indigenous people
@@shackeykino8444 fuck you..you asshole chakmas are not Bangladeshi it's just that they live in that place since there's no place to live don't you dare call them Bangladeshi..and we have our own problems we don't have nowhere to go we're not happy to live there (Arunachal)where the hell will we go!?🙏🙏🙏
we don't want any illegal immigrants into our region anymore. already we assamese are facing mush problems form Bangladeshi Muslim now Chakmas are create many problems in Mizoram, Arunachal n Assam. our north-east states are not a orphan home now we heaving this issues because of Political Vote Bank .. stop Bangladeshi Muslim, Chakma n Rohingiya ..
You bloody bustard don't bark without knowing anything.........we the MIZORAM Chakmas are loyal Indian do you know it.....? We had been here since ever independent of our country INDIA....,..
I am an Arunachalee. Honosestly, we are very patriotic but if government of India allows them to grand citizenship of India. Then we, the people of Arunachal can make a huge violence. We are totally against them, cuz they will b keep comming if you(government) give them citizenship. They are criminal minded. we need our state to be saved. we want to live peace, we want to maintain law and order. But we will surely go against the Supreme court if you grant them to live in AP. Jai hind..
How can they call us criminal they themselves defining that they are criminal no humanity at all and we don't to live in Arunachal either but the thing is we have nowhere to go
@@terencelee1777 go back ur own land Bangladesh we Arunachal don't want to be violance again like 2020 happened cause of PRC issue it's lead to dead 3 of our Arunachal brothers who fight against this issue 👍
@Gype Dalboat Mr. Bhaumik's way of debate is totally unacceptable. He cannot say whatever he wants... before debate he must understand the feelings of North East..Maa Baap to hote rahega.. lekin northeast ka indigenous people ka feelings ko bi jaan na bohut jururi.... without their consent Chakma Hajong settlement is next to impossible hai👍👍👍
6:9 he was talking about Chakma beggars.. Yes the Chakma people had very very bad conditions..My grandfather often used to offer food to Chakma when they used to come to our home..
Well Balanced debate, but RSTV is known for it's patient and no-shout match type debate. Kindly do not call self righteous aggressive debators, irrespective of their knowledge level.
So the bureaucrates in Delhi decided on their own to airlift and drop the Bangladeshi refugees to Arunachal. Did anyone ask the Arunachalis about their will ??
These refugees can never be part of our Arunachal Pradesh.. If supreme Court Grants citizenship.. we tribals know how to deal with foreigns who encroaches with our Land.
Why did they even call this irrational man with little knowledge for this debate. Subhir's argument didn't make any sense at all. Had this problem been in h Is state his opinion would have been vice versa. A good debator is the one who look into the problems from all angles and then come to conclusion..Shouting doesn't make you one.
Mr. Subir British came in India around 1600 and lived for 200years so Indian govt should grant them Indian citizenship?..and about other tribes living in Northeast states were not recognized by GOI until ahoms came in ASSAM.. They were only recognized by Britishers and lastly about citizenship every states have their own indigenous people... Why don't you gather all chakma and hajongs from tripura, mizoram, Assam, and arunachal and give them different state so that they can enjoy equal rights but granting them citizenship in different states will only create massive chaos and it will create many circumstances later
Subhir bowmik himself is bangladeshi Hindu and indirectly tells that we are not loyal to country.if mainland people try to make demographic changes in arunachal Pradesh we will raise Chinese flag.we have been loyal to country that doesn't mean we are fools.if mainland people thinks that they are loyal why don't they shelter chakmas in rich state like Gujarat.soon you'll see another Kashmir
Instead of playing politics inside own country...why not govt. is pressuring the Bangladesh to allow stay indigenous people to settle on its own land through international forum like UNO...why government is not condemning the Bangladesh...why Bangladesh should always generate refugee and sending to us to all other countries...all country should unit and pressurize to Bangladesh for taking back of these refugees.
CHAKMA HAD THEIR KINDOM IN CHITHAGONG BRITISH IMPERIALISTS DESTROYED AND KEPT UNDER MUSLIMS EVEN WHEN CHAKMAS WANTED TO JOIN INDIA .AFTER EAST PAKISTAN BECAME BANGLADESH GOVERNMENT BACKED ENFORCED ISLAMIC COLONISATION AND PERSECUTION OF CHAKMAS CONTINUES WITHOUT ANY VOICE FROM ANY CORNER EVERY DAY CHAKMAS ARE HARASSED .AS CULTURAL BROTHERS INDIANS SHOULD DO SOMETHING TO PROTECT CHAKMAS FROM BARBARIC ISLAMIC INVATION IN TO THEIR HOMELAND.THEN ONLY YOU CAN STOP CHAKMAS COMING TO INDIA.BRITISH GOVERNMENT AFTER DOING ALL THE NASTY DESTRUCTION TO CHAKMAS NOW KEEP DEAD SILENCE SHAME TO THE PEOPLE WHO DID THIS INJUSTICE TO CHAKMAS.
Citizenship de do, lekin agar local people ko zamin mat do aur sabse badi problem yehi hai ki political value, toh iske liye unne voting right mat.., Time to time condition achi hogi tab age ki baat karege..
Ek lakh se jyada nahi Sir, 5 lakh se jyada ho gya hai inki jansankhya. They are growing their population rapid and fast like rodents. And capturing Arunachal's lands day by day. They had even encroached a huge land of wildlife reserves, and AP govt. is unable to stop them.
Unfortunate to learn that indigenous people of Arunachal are alien to India and Chagmas & Hojongs are loyal to India. Know the history first and than shout, there is no reason to shout in the topic. We do not like to see like Assam where indigenous are minority by now because of jagirs of some Tribe. Terrifying debating. Arunachalee never revolted against India when annexed by India but revolted against Britishers entering our territory. Arunachalee will never revolt against India. People are determined to protect own rights over land and forest, as life basically depends on it. About 3681 Sq kms of Arunachal land was transferred to Assam in 1951. Again talking about giving our land to Chakmas & Hojongs , what you wanted us to do. Best way solution is to shift these people to Tripura, Assam or CHT. It is open history that these community lost their homeland because of their alienation to own country Bangladesh and aggresive like one debate participants difference is one with mouth others with Arms. Arunachal protects entire NE state from invasion but not by these illegal immigrants. Sooo Sorry 🙏
Rohingyas are a security threat to India. We don't ARSA ( Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army) branch in India. They were settled on Indo-China Border as security threat. My objection against them is with their Bengali/Bangladeshi character. I feel Sudhir Bhowmik is exaggerating their ( Chakma) India love.
Chittagong Hill Tracts should be annexed to India at the earliest possible no refugee problem will be there it should be reclaimed. Government of India should take appropriate steps urgently.
please maintain dignity of rstv debate...kurban sir very nice..keep it up...bp singh sir rocks...all panelists are good but please maintain dignity of this show....
Mr shubir is acting as if he is really concerned about humanity..i think he should adopt 2 chakma kids and live upto his words..i know m from arunachal and the problem we face in ground level..but the debate is really awesome..people like subhir are morons who talk more but work less in ground.
Subeer bhumikh g Aap jis tarike se bol rahe hai k arunachal kisi ka baap k raaj nahi zahir si baat hai Aap toh apne baap k raajya pr reh rahe hai toh le jayaiye apne baap k raajya pe humai khushi hogi.. Halaat jis jis pe gujarta hai unhi ko Pata rehta hai bahar se dekh kar sunker bolna aasan hota hai subeer G humain bhi dukh hai is Tarah se unhe nikaalne Mai so Aap le jaiyain unhe Kuch insaniyat Aap bhi jataiyain..
Propeffesor Pushpent you forgot. it was happened only partition.we did not attached with Pakistan or Bangladesh.Don't turn constitutional purpose.Partition did not in right way... that's way we are suffering ....
Keep chakma hajong refugee in your rich mainland Indian government is playing political game with our mother land keep in your home you don't hve any right to grave our motherland
Humanities is the most precious proerties of people so always help the needy people bcoz nothing will took along with us while death so why did we Discriminate each other
Kukkur SUBHIR BHUMIK chakmas were not settled as backup for chinese aggression but were dumped by then governer of Assam inorder to avoid conflicts between Mizos n Chakma Hajong. Get ur facts correct.If u don't have the correct facts how are u even a journalist. N if u r so worried about them tk them to ur state there won't be prblm. Being Aggresive for free.
No one support Chakma why ???.we are here since 1964 we are Indian we will remain Indian forever....I don't agree to not to disturb...they are disturbing us how can we stay quiet....we also have to answer them if some one ask questions....kuch samudhai ke log 1971 main ankhar nagarikta di ja rehi toh hume kyun nahi....we are being tortured since 1964....how far we have to tolerate....please take initiative dear leaders understand our pain...please please please...
Pakistan se aane vale hindu ko nagarikta mila aur tibet se aane vale monpa ko nagarikta mila too chakma ko kye nahi .india loktantra desh hai ,chakma ko india gov ne leke aaya ,koyi chori chupke nahi aaya
subhir bhaumik aap hi bas nahi hai unka sochne k liye ... aur itna hinsak baap wala dialogue bolne ki jarurat bhi nahi thi .. suprem court or govt apna kaam kar rahi hai.
really i shame to being indian jo desh apne desh wasiyoo ko dusre desh ki logo se bacha nahe sakta osh desh ko super power banneka koi hak nahe hein apne desh k logo ki toh chinta nahe hein dusre desh ki logo ki bhout chinta hein hmmmmmmm tm j sa logo ko kahe dub marjana chaheyeh mr takla jada din nahe hume toh lagta hein india k log refuge ban jaiga kyu ki muslim aur chakma hajong ka aawadi bar raha hein aur main land loga ka gat raha hein wo din dur nahe india india nahe rahega dusra bangladesh banjaiga wo din bot jald aaiga
I request government of bharat country bill pass for parliament lok Saba and rajsabha don't give permission citizenship foreign peoples because unemployment person day by day 250 crores populations
Shubir buhmick Who told you that chakma's people are peaceful and loyalty? Vist once time in chakma inhabitants A.P. then you'll know the real fact. They form terrorist group in the name of arunachal and did heinous crimes like rape, murder,
Main Rajya Sabha Vidya Balan ko Hardik Abhinandan namaste and Sanskrit kal bol raha hun Hamare Chakma Aur hajam Ke Prati Jo Rajya Sabha TV ne ek bar Dekha Tha usmein Kafi Charcha kya O mujhe bahut hi Achcha Laga isliye Main Aur FIR Kahana chahta hun Dobara ki Hamare Chashma aur having ke upar Naya Nagar net Gal Harkat Apna rahe hai Yahan Ke Logon Ne Rajya Sabha TV ko itne Mein Aa Kahana chahta hun usko Achcha se aap log fir se matlab leader sabhi ko bulakar Vishwas Karen thankyou Mein Subhash Chakma aap sabhi ko Hardik Abhinandan and mein Shukar Gujara Shakar Gujar rahunga Mein aabhari rahunga Rajya Sabha TV Walon Ko and channel Walon Ko aur media Walon Ko
Subir sir was aggressive but he gave nice information and good compared to chakma tribes in ap and Bangladeshi migrants in Assam overall debet was so nice... Thank a lot kurban sir for arranged debate on chakma migrants issue
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Mr Subir Bhoumik, I don't know where are you from and what do you know about indigenous people of Arunachal Pradesh. But there is no doubt that you do know this Chakma and Hajong refugees very well. They might be your relatives. But let me tell you Mr Subir Bhoumik, they came to our land as refugees and they will remain refugees. And about us, Arunachal is ours and ours only. Our ancestors cultivated and hunted on this land. Our forefathers were headhunters. They fought and bleed for this land. If needed, we will do the same, but never share an inch to outsiders. Jai Hind, Jai Arunachal Pradesh. ✊
Some Mainland people were commenting on news about Arunachal as if they have ever done any Anthropological and sociological research about Arunachal. And as if they have Historical knowledge about Arunachal.....I wonder whether they have ever visited Arunachal.
In support of Refugees, they argued that indigenous people of AP migrated from China and thereby, were trying to equate us with Chakma Hajong Refugees - run away n beaten away Refugees of 60s from Bangladesh by Bangladesh Miyas.
My question to those experts...
1. When we migrated from China?
2. What was the status of India then?
3. What was the name of Arunachal before NEFA n before that..?
4. Have u ever heard of Excluded areas, partially Excluded areas, backward tract etc. etc.?
5. Have u ever read any anthropological, sociological work done by British explorer and others to know about d indigenous people? Have u ever tried to know about its oral history to know about the people?
6. Do you hv any idea that even after Independence, the area was Administered by Foreign Ministry till 1965 and not by Home Ministry?
7. Has Any Arunachalee raised Anti Indian slogan like Kashmir (inspite of China Claiming it as disputed territory)?????
8. How many tribes and sub-tribes are there?
Fact is:
👉We wr never ruled by Mughals
👉We wr never ruled by Ahoms (infact, our people were paid revenues - Posa, read ahom buranjis.)
👉Britishers never ruled over us directly- infact, they protected our dying culture and population by drawing INNER and OUTER LINE of the extent of British Empire.
Thanks to Britishers for preserving our identity.
Yes, it's a fact that now AP is a part of India
But know the history before commenting anything. We were never Colonised or Ruled over or were SLAVE to any foreign rule or were Chased away ..... So, don't equate our migration with Refugees - who migrated in 60s from Bangladesh.
So, before, equating our migration with Chakma Hajong, do some research.
Should I also say that India belongs to Dravidians??
And why double standard for Refugees??
👉Want to deport Rohingyas(Muslims)
but want to grant citizenship to Chakmas(Buddhist) and Hajong(Hindus) - chased away by Muslims of Bangladesh - and dump on our head in AP !!
You should to search map of kamarupa kingdom in which more than half part of Bhutan and whole western and southern part of Arunachal were a part upto 1128AD. And yes you should also search later sutiya or chutiya kingdom's map which includes southern Arunachal including Tirap district with north and north eastern part of Assam the ruins of ita fort is the monument of shutiya maharajas. You can search it either on google or come national archive in delhi for more information. And my dear if your arunachal was not the part of mughal empire then you should to thank Lachit Borphukan a great hindu warrior and also Ahoms and kamata puri kings. There are many parts of India which were not the part of mughal or with least impact of mughals like himachal and uttarakhand due to strong resistance of garhwal kingdom of Parmar dynasty and also some part of chattisgarh and odisha. Ahoms and nagas are also not the indigenous ahoms were tai people of china they came india in 1228 after defeated by haan people of china. They adopted hinduism. Well i am a mainland Indian with great attraction for history of north eastern India.
In ancient time north eastern India was known as Kaamarupa and kalitas are ancient aryan people of north east. Love from tamilnadu namaskaaram🙏🙏🙏
@@Sps_hexa Lol bro Where did u learn this fake History?
Hi my name is zeenie mane from western Arunachal Pradesh. I belong to bokar tribe ,we have our oral history of 30th generation before and history of our tribe is also mantion in historical text of Tang Dynasty china way back in 7th century AD. In our entire history of 30th generation we never ruled or governed by any kindom or empire, even we never heard about British empire until 1980s.
@@Sps_hexa sorry we called them Baghi..Refugee kings in our ancestors land.
By birth, descent etc according to constitution of India chakmas and Hajong are citizenship of India but as a Citizens Jo right milna sahye nhi mil rah hai..... It's very unfortunate to say.......jaldi se positive solutions Dena sahye
Iska kisiko kuch samajhme aa raha hai kya??? Ye bol kya raha hai bhai? 🤔
Oi kuta tum apna state ma right do
Subir Bhoumik sir tnx...
Subir sir u r absolutely right ...appka maan bahut sab hai appka jesa dil Sabi human ko deh
U r very cunning n unpeacful people
U r very close to Bengali as ur dialect too
Toh jaiye unke Pradesh mein
ARUNACHAL pradesh is under Bengal Frontier ACT atleast Bhomick as a reporter should know and we Arunachalee is not agaisnt citizen ship but should not allowed to settle in Arunachal.
Right👍
Well spoken Pushpendra pant ji.
We love and respect Rajya Sabha TV. No name but I think panelists should maintain the dignity.
Impressive debate.Full of knowledge. We get the insight of both the sides. Thank you and respect Kurbaan Ali Sir.
It doesn't matter of panalty subir sir only tried to keep side of chakmas
Sirf Hajong Tribes Hi Bangladesho se nahi aaye aur bhi kayi jaati hai Jo Bangladesho se aah pohche hai India mai, woh jaati hai Garo, Muslims, Bengali etc. Aur Garo Jaati bhi toh Bangladesho se aaye huye hai toh unko unke Jagaa ka naam bhi diya gaya West Garo Hills Meghalaya aur woh bhi India mai kyun, aur Garo aise jaati hai Jo Christian Beptist hai aur Hajong ko abhi bhi nahi mila apna jaga, unhe bhi toh thoda jaga milna chahiye, unke liye kuch bhi namo nishan nahi dekh paa rahe hai Hindu Ho ke bhi kuch nahi kar pa rahe hai, hamare khayal se unhe sirf nagrikta hi nahi unhe apna Jagaa bhi milna chahiye aur unka Minister bhi Jai Hind....
We are support chakma and hajong 💪❤❤ jay hind jay Bharat ♥️♥️
Why isn't there a North Eastern person in this debate ?
Mr bhoomik we don't oppose the chakmas granting citizen.....but if chakmas r there in tripura than y don't u implement them in tripur......GOI we request u to protect indigenous people
Good sir pant sir my respect
We are hajong, we are Indian🇮🇳
🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
If the rights are granted to chakma. I dare you china will be watching this unrest.
we Arunachali people are also loyal and patrotic to India.Don't play with our emotions.We are the first to settle in A.P.
U were a Chinese refugees..not a setteler of Arunachal Pradesh..then how can you dare to say we are the first in Arunachal
@@kamalteiya662 lol we didn't settle here our forefathers own this land unlike u refugees 😅😅😅
U r a Chinese refugee did we ever raised any questions about your tribe
@@shackeykino8444 fuck you..you asshole chakmas are not Bangladeshi it's just that they live in that place since there's no place to live don't you dare call them Bangladeshi..and we have our own problems we don't have nowhere to go we're not happy to live there (Arunachal)where the hell will we go!?🙏🙏🙏
Go back
Subir sir u r right thanks
we don't want any illegal immigrants into our region anymore. already we assamese are facing mush problems form Bangladeshi Muslim now Chakmas are create many problems in Mizoram, Arunachal n Assam. our north-east states are not a orphan home now we heaving this issues because of Political Vote Bank .. stop Bangladeshi Muslim, Chakma n Rohingiya ..
You bloody bustard don't bark without knowing anything.........we the MIZORAM Chakmas are loyal Indian do you know it.....? We had been here since ever independent of our country INDIA....,..
Donot mention about the mizoram's chakmas 🖕🖕
Thousands of Army Chakma From Mizoram
I am an Arunachalee. Honosestly, we are very patriotic but if government of India allows them to grand citizenship of India. Then we, the people of Arunachal can make a huge violence. We are totally against them, cuz they will b keep comming if you(government) give them citizenship.
They are criminal minded.
we need our state to be saved.
we want to live peace, we want to maintain law and order. But we will surely go against the Supreme court if you grant them to live in AP.
Jai hind..
Apko to deyan dena sahe constitution of India may .too phir bolo ye bhat please. Look at you at first then say about the right of humanity.
Ye ye because ur a Chinese that's why
How can they call us criminal they themselves defining that they are criminal no humanity at all and we don't to live in Arunachal either but the thing is we have nowhere to go
@@terencelee1777 go back ur own land Bangladesh we Arunachal don't want to be violance again like 2020 happened cause of PRC issue it's lead to dead 3 of our Arunachal brothers who fight against this issue 👍
India loyal chakma and Hajong from Arunachal Pradesh ❤❤
Chakma n hajong are loyal indian
Toh jao kisi bhi state mein but not in our HomeLand.
Mr. Subir Bhaumik....is North East belongs to your father???
@Gype Dalboat Mr. Bhaumik's way of debate is totally unacceptable. He cannot say whatever he wants... before debate he must understand the feelings of North East..Maa Baap to hote rahega.. lekin northeast ka indigenous people ka feelings ko bi jaan na bohut jururi.... without their consent Chakma Hajong settlement is next to impossible hai👍👍👍
Sir jaldi se Hajong chakma koh Cittizenchip deh doh..bohut duk see rahe hai
6:9 he was talking about Chakma beggars..
Yes the Chakma people had very very bad conditions..My grandfather often used to offer food to Chakma when they used to come to our home..
Aminul Choudhury offer your land
Well Balanced debate, but RSTV is known for it's patient and no-shout match type debate. Kindly do not call self righteous aggressive debators, irrespective of their knowledge level.
Aditi Rawat are u preparing for UPSC ?
Chittagong par attack karo aur unne chakma and hajong logo ko de dijiye🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
So the bureaucrates in Delhi decided on their own to airlift and drop the Bangladeshi refugees to Arunachal.
Did anyone ask the Arunachalis about their will ??
These refugees can never be part of our Arunachal Pradesh.. If supreme Court Grants citizenship.. we tribals know how to deal with foreigns who encroaches with our Land.
Pushpeshpanth sir........you are out siding parsanility
Why did they even call this irrational man with little knowledge for this debate. Subhir's argument didn't make any sense at all. Had this problem been in h
Is state his opinion would have been vice versa. A good debator is the one who look into the problems from all angles and then come to conclusion..Shouting doesn't make you one.
I support u he is Bengali
Mr. Subir British came in India around 1600 and lived for 200years so Indian govt should grant them Indian citizenship?..and about other tribes living in Northeast states were not recognized by GOI until ahoms came in ASSAM.. They were only recognized by Britishers and lastly about citizenship every states have their own indigenous people... Why don't you gather all chakma and hajongs from tripura, mizoram, Assam, and arunachal and give them different state so that they can enjoy equal rights but granting them citizenship in different states will only create massive chaos and it will create many circumstances later
Subhir bowmik himself is bangladeshi Hindu and indirectly tells that we are not loyal to country.if mainland people try to make demographic changes in arunachal Pradesh we will raise Chinese flag.we have been loyal to country that doesn't mean we are fools.if mainland people thinks that they are loyal why don't they shelter chakmas in rich state like Gujarat.soon you'll see another Kashmir
Subir sir you are absolutely right
But I think gov. Should respect supreem court in this issue
What about chin hill act 1896 , the inner line 1887. The constitution right of arunachal ha diluted.
Pushpesh pant sir shandar hai
We should integrate Chittagong chakmaland with India.Thats the solution.
We won't let arunachal go like tripura subir.. #bangladeshi
bhumik, y don't u settle chakmas in Kolkata and in your home ?
Yes sir 🥺🥺🥺
Be it a political reason or any other reason, Bhumik ji you've got no right talking about what goes on in our state.
Instead of playing politics inside own country...why not govt. is pressuring the Bangladesh to allow stay indigenous people to settle on its own land through international forum like UNO...why government is not condemning the Bangladesh...why Bangladesh should always generate refugee and sending to us to all other countries...all country should unit and pressurize to Bangladesh for taking back of these refugees.
Kurban sir thanks
Chakmas aur Hajongs logko Citizenship dena chahiye.Main West Garo Hills se hoon.
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Subir sir is absolutely right
Ammediately shifted the chakmas refugee from Arunachal pradesh still we.cannot.tolarate .
Thanks you sir ji. Yes Chakma and Hajong are loyal Indian.
Lol
help the chakma,hajang.
CHAKMA HAD THEIR KINDOM IN CHITHAGONG BRITISH IMPERIALISTS DESTROYED AND
KEPT UNDER MUSLIMS EVEN WHEN CHAKMAS WANTED TO JOIN INDIA .AFTER EAST PAKISTAN BECAME BANGLADESH GOVERNMENT BACKED ENFORCED ISLAMIC COLONISATION AND PERSECUTION OF CHAKMAS CONTINUES WITHOUT ANY VOICE FROM
ANY CORNER EVERY DAY CHAKMAS ARE HARASSED .AS CULTURAL BROTHERS INDIANS
SHOULD DO SOMETHING TO PROTECT CHAKMAS FROM BARBARIC ISLAMIC INVATION IN TO THEIR HOMELAND.THEN ONLY YOU CAN STOP CHAKMAS COMING TO INDIA.BRITISH GOVERNMENT AFTER DOING ALL THE NASTY DESTRUCTION TO CHAKMAS NOW KEEP DEAD SILENCE SHAME TO THE PEOPLE WHO DID THIS INJUSTICE TO CHAKMAS.
All Indian Buddhist
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Citizenship de do, lekin agar local people ko zamin mat do aur sabse badi problem yehi hai ki political value, toh iske liye unne voting right mat..,
Time to time condition achi hogi tab age ki baat karege..
Ek lakh se jyada nahi Sir, 5 lakh se jyada ho gya hai inki jansankhya. They are growing their population rapid and fast like rodents. And capturing Arunachal's lands day by day. They had even encroached a huge land of wildlife reserves, and AP govt. is unable to stop them.
Why you r miss guiding in social media Borther
Unfortunate to learn that indigenous people of Arunachal are alien to India and Chagmas & Hojongs are loyal to India.
Know the history first and than shout, there is no reason to shout in the topic. We do not like to see like Assam where indigenous are minority by now because of jagirs of some Tribe. Terrifying debating.
Arunachalee never revolted against India when annexed by India but revolted against Britishers entering our territory.
Arunachalee will never revolt against India. People are determined to protect own rights over land and forest, as life basically depends on it.
About 3681 Sq kms of Arunachal land was transferred to Assam in 1951. Again talking about giving our land to Chakmas & Hojongs , what you wanted us to do.
Best way solution is to shift these people to Tripura, Assam or CHT. It is open history that these community lost their homeland because of their alienation to own country Bangladesh and aggresive like one debate participants difference is one with mouth others with Arms.
Arunachal protects entire NE state from invasion but not by these illegal immigrants. Sooo Sorry 🙏
Waah chakma chahiya Par rohangiya Nahi chahiya 😠😬😡😤✊👊
Rohingyas are a security threat to India. We don't ARSA ( Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army) branch in India. They were settled on Indo-China Border as security threat. My objection against them is with their Bengali/Bangladeshi character. I feel Sudhir Bhowmik is exaggerating their ( Chakma) India love.
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We Chakma and Hagon want our home land
Yes go back to chittagong hills, bangladesh, your real homeland.
Yes don't worry about it..bjp will surely solve your problem..
@@anarghanayak8586 how ? By relocating all the refugees to delhi or bangalore?
Rajesh Kumar Mishra bro we born in india and our this is our country
Solve ur problem bro go back in your home land Bangladesh
Champak of Arunachal was forefather homeland of Chakma ethnicity, according to ancient history of Chakma.
Our brother china is watching at us....if supreme court dont revoke its decision ...WE WILL TAKE BROTHERS HELP
People like boumik are live in tripura no wonder why tribal population of tripura is declining.
Kia bola ap Meghalaya pe hai Hajong lekin chakma nahi Meghalaya pe
Adi nechi jo adibasi hay whlok barmis se aya
Arunachal pradesh ka Chakma hojong ko joldi Citizenship dena sahiye
Bhai apne Desh mein jao.
Mr. bauhmik why don't you settled some chakmas in your house. And secondly Arunachal mera baap ka hai. Tumko jo ukaad na hai ukaad lo.
marina tamuk, sahi kaha
very gud reply
Bhoumik saleko bangladesh bhejna chahiye
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Chittagong Hill Tracts should be annexed to India at the earliest possible no refugee problem will be there it should be reclaimed. Government of India should take appropriate steps urgently.
Impressive debet
ShiV Yadav plz don't call subhir sir
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what is means of subhir sir
They have got right in some state like tripura,mizoram etc.why don't they went there settled there...
Mr. Subhir... Y don't u keep dem wid u....in ur house...
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We won't allow dem to stay in our state...
shresta sharma ...mujje Chakma ladki nhi chaiye...
I need Indian gal.. Not Bangladeshi... 😂
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please maintain dignity of rstv debate...kurban sir very nice..keep it up...bp singh sir rocks...all panelists are good but please maintain dignity of this show....
Mr shubir is acting as if he is really concerned about humanity..i think he should adopt 2 chakma kids and live upto his words..i know m from arunachal and the problem we face in ground level..but the debate is really awesome..people like subhir are morons who talk more but work less in ground.
He is bullshit he himself is Bangladeshi
Mr Subir bhowmik
It is
Talk someone from northeast..not with people from other part of country...
Subeer bhumikh g Aap jis tarike se bol rahe hai k arunachal kisi ka baap k raaj nahi zahir si baat hai Aap toh apne baap k raajya pr reh rahe hai toh le jayaiye apne baap k raajya pe humai khushi hogi.. Halaat jis jis pe gujarta hai unhi ko Pata rehta hai bahar se dekh kar sunker bolna aasan hota hai subeer G humain bhi dukh hai is Tarah se unhe nikaalne Mai so Aap le jaiyain unhe Kuch insaniyat Aap bhi jataiyain..
we will not allowed to stay at our state.. we will protect whatever the consequences ..
Bloody Chinese
Tibetian refugee's never asking for Indian citizenship.. why chamka refugee??
Propeffesor Pushpent you forgot. it was happened only partition.we did not attached with Pakistan or Bangladesh.Don't turn constitutional purpose.Partition did not in right way... that's way we are suffering ....
thanks sir chakma
Second speeker sarasar jhut hai.kaha
Keep chakma hajong refugee in your rich mainland Indian government is playing political game with our mother land keep in your home you don't hve any right to grave our motherland
Me arunachal ka ho chama aur hajong jaha see Aya Wala jao
Humanities is the most precious proerties of people so always help the needy people bcoz nothing will took along with us while death so why did we Discriminate each other
Kukkur SUBHIR BHUMIK chakmas were not settled as backup for chinese aggression but were dumped by then governer of Assam inorder to avoid conflicts between Mizos n Chakma Hajong.
Get ur facts correct.If u don't have the correct facts how are u even a journalist.
N if u r so worried about them tk them to ur state there won't be prblm.
Being Aggresive for free.
No one support Chakma why ???.we are here since 1964 we are Indian we will remain Indian forever....I don't agree to not to disturb...they are disturbing us how can we stay quiet....we also have to answer them if some one ask questions....kuch samudhai ke log 1971 main ankhar nagarikta di ja rehi toh hume kyun nahi....we are being tortured since 1964....how far we have to tolerate....please take initiative dear leaders understand our pain...please please please...
Subir sir ji you are absolutely right 👍
Pakistan se aane vale hindu ko nagarikta mila aur tibet se aane vale monpa ko nagarikta mila too chakma ko kye nahi .india loktantra desh hai ,chakma ko india gov ne leke aaya ,koyi chori chupke nahi aaya
Bhai aap apne Pradesh mein de dijiye jhaga, hum indigenous tribe aur aise hi rehna chatey hai.
If it is not possible in Arunachal Pradesh they can be shifted to Ladakh
Plzz give citizenship in chakma n hajong
Subir baumik, you come here in arunchal you will not live.
If u did not give us any rights then return our home land Chittagon hill track
subhir bhaumik aap hi bas nahi hai unka sochne k liye ... aur itna hinsak baap wala dialogue bolne ki jarurat bhi nahi thi .. suprem court or govt apna kaam kar rahi hai.
Chakma aur hajong logo ko citizensive nhi dena chahiye hm Arunachali walo ne nhi manega
Give fast chitizenship sir ji
Go back to your country Brother, no offence.
Momik sir should let them stay in his state
Assam banese phele Dimasa kachari ka hidemba rajyo tha yat rakna Assam tumhara bab ka nahi hamara bab ka hei Assam
Subir sir ... 👍👍👍
subir.....ji let them leave n settle in ur state....
really i shame to being indian jo desh apne desh wasiyoo ko dusre desh ki logo se bacha nahe sakta osh desh ko super power banneka koi hak nahe hein apne desh k logo ki toh chinta nahe hein dusre desh ki logo ki bhout chinta hein hmmmmmmm tm j sa logo ko kahe dub marjana chaheyeh mr takla jada din nahe hume toh lagta hein india k log refuge ban jaiga kyu ki muslim aur chakma hajong ka aawadi bar raha hein aur main land loga ka gat raha hein wo din dur nahe india india nahe rahega dusra bangladesh banjaiga wo din bot jald aaiga
Sabko namaskar chakma or hajong ki tarap se bahut bahut dhanyabad.
I request government of bharat country bill pass for parliament lok Saba and rajsabha don't give permission citizenship foreign peoples because unemployment person day by day 250 crores populations
Shubir buhmick Who told you that chakma's people are peaceful and loyalty? Vist once time in chakma inhabitants A.P. then you'll know the real fact. They form terrorist group in the name of arunachal and did heinous crimes like rape, murder,
Main Rajya Sabha Vidya Balan ko Hardik Abhinandan namaste and Sanskrit kal bol raha hun Hamare Chakma Aur hajam Ke Prati Jo Rajya Sabha TV ne ek bar Dekha Tha usmein Kafi Charcha kya O mujhe bahut hi Achcha Laga isliye Main Aur FIR Kahana chahta hun Dobara ki Hamare Chashma aur having ke upar Naya Nagar net Gal Harkat Apna rahe hai Yahan Ke Logon Ne Rajya Sabha TV ko itne Mein Aa Kahana chahta hun usko Achcha se aap log fir se matlab leader sabhi ko bulakar Vishwas Karen thankyou Mein Subhash Chakma aap sabhi ko Hardik Abhinandan and mein Shukar Gujara Shakar Gujar rahunga Mein aabhari rahunga Rajya Sabha TV Walon Ko and channel Walon Ko aur media Walon Ko
Bomik ji Arunachal aaiye , son of soil khoun hai me bota huaga.
Subir sir was aggressive but he gave nice information and good compared to chakma tribes in ap and Bangladeshi migrants in Assam overall debet was so nice...
Thank a lot kurban sir for arranged debate on chakma migrants issue
Why he need to be agressive