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  • Valve nerfed Magnus after The International 10 because of Collapse Horn Toss and Skewer plays
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  • @FrightTVAnimations
    @FrightTVAnimations 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    The man who also spawned thousands of Magnus throwers in pub games

  • @arireynaldy
    @arireynaldy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    TI3 Hook Dendi Express, TI10 SKewer Collapse Express xD

    • @gamaf2409
      @gamaf2409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      TI 9 TIny airline Express

    • @Ali-Bora23
      @Ali-Bora23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dont ever compare those two again

    • @exdre8559
      @exdre8559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Ali-Bora23 He didn't compare them relax

    • @Ali-Bora23
      @Ali-Bora23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@exdre8559 dont even say them im the same sentence

    • @chivaljazz
      @chivaljazz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Ali-Bora23 so what you will do? What can you even if he compares.

  • @masterrain26
    @masterrain26 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Collapse - The man who nerfed Magnus
    Jerax - The man who nerfed Earth Spirit
    Ana - The man who buffed the fountain and nerfed the io

    • @basictv3435
      @basictv3435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Miracle- the man who nerfed invoker
      Miracle- the man who nerfed arc warden
      Miracle- the man who kill Roshan in 1sec.
      Miracle- the man who depence the base in the history

    • @zhandossmagulov2115
      @zhandossmagulov2115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@basictv3435 pfff

    • @ameame32
      @ameame32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wasn't that arc warden play similar to how topson did his defense but for the t4 towers in ti8? Also killing roshan in 1 sec. is been here for years remember that rubick one shot roshan?

    • @batochirtamjid6584
      @batochirtamjid6584 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@basictv3435 yeah that is true

    • @Faradars1
      @Faradars1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@basictv3435 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @anbu999
    @anbu999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    "Not technically a die back, it is a respawned and die immediately"

    • @H4FI2
      @H4FI2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol burn

  • @atakama6375
    @atakama6375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Icefrog: The man who nerfed CM.

    • @nbhage2178
      @nbhage2178 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      She still needs a nerf

    • @FuNoK83
      @FuNoK83 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      is that kinda meme all about this CM nerf? how has she been nerved?

  • @duandabriandika
    @duandabriandika 3 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    i actually think magnus isnt a broken hero before the nerfed, its just because collapse using it very well (imo)

    • @celeste388
      @celeste388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Isn't broken? The horn toss skewer didnt even gave players room to counter react. The moment you got horn tossed, you're done.
      Why did you think they changed Horn toss to a 100% slow, that's to give players room to counter the combo

    • @georgeallison6528
      @georgeallison6528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Only Arise could make this hero really work without horn toss back then. Collapse's positioning was godlike indeed, but horn toss made things way easier.

    • @mza3544
      @mza3544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Horn toss cast time was waaay to fast even before the collapse incident. I once watched mason screaming at his tide for not ravaging in time but the cast time is just too quick

    • @SheaSyz
      @SheaSyz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yes , magnus is not that goodd
      it just magnus follow up at this video was really good
      their ally react fast from collapse skewer,
      if he skewer and team didnt react , probably it will team wipe from magnus fault
      just like how if it skewer enigma, tide, or some aoe hero, or strong aoe carry
      you can see collapse got rekted while skewer centa

    • @w1ngk
      @w1ngk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you even following the matches, even analyst and some pro player mention that horn toss aoe too big, cast time is fast and cd is low before international 10. Magnus has the same level of broken to tiny in that patch.

  • @gamerx3972
    @gamerx3972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    5:40 the way she says yatoro

  • @hydroman08
    @hydroman08 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    horn toss in that patch was like an abyssal blade

  • @sinhaboyy5639
    @sinhaboyy5639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Yatoro's hero pool is unreal. The lad just likes playing whatever he gets on.

    • @KidTrigger
      @KidTrigger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should see my hero pool it’s huge too when I play in ti you’ll see

    • @MaximaToluene
      @MaximaToluene 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Is it yatoro or his team creates a great space he just gets fat like crazy

    • @quickstrings9505
      @quickstrings9505 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KidTrigger Stay strong buddy

    • @belomtidur13hari
      @belomtidur13hari 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaximaToluene it is.. yatoro..
      imagine doin all hero challenge scoring rampage after rampage on TI, and actually winning

  • @lexsaito1189
    @lexsaito1189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    that skewer cancel wow 10:47

  • @WoloW1zard-
    @WoloW1zard- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    17:48 who uses minimap to skewer @@

    • @Marschal.A
      @Marschal.A 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that this man mouse movement unpredictable and so fast

  • @ЖакуповКуаныш
    @ЖакуповКуаныш 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    На групповой стадии TI10 он говорил что лучший на магнусе после Arise .тогда я подумал ничего себе самооценка

    • @Федорпервый-п5у
      @Федорпервый-п5у 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      А теперь все думают что он тогда прибеднялся)

  • @Marschal.A
    @Marschal.A 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That force staff click is actually for dark willow but tiny blink in in the click are thats why the force staff goes to tiny rather than dw

    • @saishlad7977
      @saishlad7977 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If he wanted to force dw, he would’ve done it quite early there

  • @ravekid5282
    @ravekid5282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Сильный герой в руках обычного узника - выстрел себе в колени, сильный герой в руках сильного игрока - это имба. Валв этого не понимают. Большинство челов даже не щнали про силу магнуса до колапса, а как узнали мало что изменилось. Герой как имел 48% винрейта, так и имеет 48% винрейта.

    • @gunterodim1535
      @gunterodim1535 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      магнус всегда был средним героем. На нём нужно прям гением быть чтобы так играть, либо задрачивать десятки часов. Людям это не нужно потому что ты можешь просто пикать обоссаного клинкза или зевса и поднимать ммр

  • @structuredchaos6784
    @structuredchaos6784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:50 bonk

  • @arsgg6090
    @arsgg6090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Heroes nerf are normal through patch.. he's still cant beat the io god ana.. the one who's buffed fountain itself..

  • @altannedjati9861
    @altannedjati9861 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. what is the name of the song in the background min 14:10 ? Thank you.

  • @akmallisham4952
    @akmallisham4952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    And yet every captain who fight team spirit always refused to ban magnus bcoz they think they can manage.... they never respect collapse's magnus

    • @yami_curr
      @yami_curr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      actually PSG LGD countered them 1 time with XinQ rubick
      but on last map they decided to not counter his magnus xd

    • @ytaiku
      @ytaiku 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yami_curr I think because rubick is banned by TS, and they pick Skywrath to counter magnus, but it doesn't work like rubick

  • @w1ngk
    @w1ngk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Kuku use magnus and comeback from lower bracket, collapse did use magnus incredibly well but magnus is definitely busted before collapse is using it, you can see alot of pub players are using magnus especially china, the popularity increase so much when horn toss is introduce.
    magnus is just like, navi picking chen + pudge, it falls to the wrong hand and "how is this balance" quote.

    • @fadwen88
      @fadwen88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly! Horn Toss was so damn eady to land, didnt even need to target it. You just blindly pull off Blink Horntoss Skewer back and it was 100% guaranteed to land.

  • @xxVanos
    @xxVanos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Arise did it better without horn toss and buff to first skill. Props to Collapse though, he plays a good Magnus.

    • @jawsdc9062
      @jawsdc9062 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, the horn toss made the major catches here if its not available at TI, I dont think they'd won this TI

    • @xxVanos
      @xxVanos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thechan8042 cry elsewhere.

  • @exort7010
    @exort7010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Man who NERFED CM is more impressive for me

  • @ФедорГеоргиевич-ь1ю
    @ФедорГеоргиевич-ь1ю 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Переводчик Яндекс Браузера с ума сошел, когда включил)))

  • @JS_246
    @JS_246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How is S4 supposed to compete in TI if they keep nerfing him?

  • @joyfulrochansang2382
    @joyfulrochansang2382 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its this type of people who change dota. He hardly plays pubs. Yet demolishes players who dominate pubs.

  • @naofumi6977
    @naofumi6977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't forget the man who buff the fountain🤣

  • @daud0778
    @daud0778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also every team: meh let's not ban magnus

    • @jpimentel1738
      @jpimentel1738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Collapse is good on mars and tide higher win rate lol

    • @kekro7660
      @kekro7660 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jpimentel1738 even his doom is effin scary

  • @Rockycm1
    @Rockycm1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:05 how did they know that AXE was there???

  • @Faradars1
    @Faradars1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What was the nerf?

  • @AceADawg
    @AceADawg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BEST Magnus to ever do it.....Ti champion

  • @noobfromsea5900
    @noobfromsea5900 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for giving us the enjoyment TSpirit.Magnus 😍

  • @fadwen88
    @fadwen88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ... guys, lets not pretend like Horn Toss was a hard to utilize ability :) it was literally the most OP shit ever. You could do the combo just automatically, Blink Horntoss Skewer back. You hit 100%. No offense but 4k plebs pulled off thr same shit, it was the Supports who nerfed it. The Visiongame was insane, and without it, those Pickoffs never would have happend.
    Not to take away something from TI Winners, but im kinda tired of people acting like that shit was hard to pull off.

    • @936alex2
      @936alex2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Collapse is good but overrated.... Nobody even remember game 5 where TT was killing the backlines only for magnus to dominatem... Collapse is best pos3 but still is very overrated..

    • @936alex2
      @936alex2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your statement so true...when faith bian also use magnus he is equally danger

  • @Линт
    @Линт 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Отличное достижение, но человек, который баффнул фонтан на другом уровне.

  • @banner7925
    @banner7925 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean, the toss being a hard stun is kinda op

  • @likulaki6672
    @likulaki6672 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    TI 10 NO BAN MAGNUS? WIN.
    TI 9 NO BAND IO?WIN.

  • @opacaropjile
    @opacaropjile 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nope, Ar1se^ was just under-rated and didn't have a good team.

  • @SLABONECHD
    @SLABONECHD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    este magnus les hizo el torneo en gran parte

  • @nuub82
    @nuub82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wouldn't say he's the man that nerfed magnus. I mean bro, literally everyone picks magnus a lot. Because all of them knows how broken he is since the beginning of tournament

  • @Ainzel_Klien
    @Ainzel_Klien 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But why not just ban his Magnus tho.

  • @mahadmukhtar3806
    @mahadmukhtar3806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    laughing on opponents who knew that he has good homework on Magnus still they are not banning magnus.. :D

  • @kazookiddo7605
    @kazookiddo7605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nahh, Jerax is way better. He is the man who nerfed Earth Spirit and Tiny.

  • @whapakwhapak
    @whapakwhapak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    most veteran teams in TI didnt even show respect, magnus is a game changer even before the playoff bracket and yet they barely bans it LOL

  • @Евгетон
    @Евгетон 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    А травоман РЕВОРКНУЛ текиса, и я считаю что это легендарнее

  • @jpii3427
    @jpii3427 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought. Valve who nerf magnus. 🤔

  • @oODauFinOo
    @oODauFinOo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you think that collapse is a good Magnus, watch Ar1se playing it, you will think that collapse is a kid then

    • @justinekarlsescon8765
      @justinekarlsescon8765 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A kid??? Using magnus in TI Like that?? TI finals?? Against OG? PLAying magnus like that in a biggest dota2 tournament was freakin insane. Yes I know Ar1se is good but using word kid to collapse compared to Ar1se is freakin noob.

    • @oODauFinOo
      @oODauFinOo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justinekarlsescon8765 Ar1se is a God Magnus, And What's so special about TI, it's a damn pro match.

    • @sandhywinartja8662
      @sandhywinartja8662 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oODauFinOo Ofc 3k like u wont understand bro

    • @936alex2
      @936alex2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sandhywinartja8662 collapse magnus is horn toss skewer which is very easy ..... But collapse still best pos 3 in ti.... But why he use magnus in ti final is because lgd scared collapse mars more than his mag

    • @ricardoalcantaracampos4811
      @ricardoalcantaracampos4811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lmao, arise would be 5 deaths min 8 against any team on ti.

  • @vincentrayalba5936
    @vincentrayalba5936 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Collapse Magnus God.

  • @fraseinspiradoradodia
    @fraseinspiradoradodia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    moster epic

  • @cornelioiii7305
    @cornelioiii7305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Magnus is balanced, it's just collapse's gameplay isn't

  • @starboylahat3411
    @starboylahat3411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's more like the man who is lucky to use poorly developed imbalance horntoss upgrade broken magnus

  • @ikubarus.6966
    @ikubarus.6966 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not Collapse nerfing magnus, rather is he is the cause magnus got nerfed.

  • @warewarewatandesu2058
    @warewarewatandesu2058 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Show some hate boys.

  • @lazypawtato8701
    @lazypawtato8701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This woman commentator just say everything even the smallest detail lol

  • @Ортём-ф9э
    @Ортём-ф9э 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Это было супер очевидно, ведь раньше приходилось правильно давать РП, поворачиваясь во время каста, а тут прыгнул нажал кнопку+оглушил, увёз, если надо продолжил РП.

    • @natutv27
      @natutv27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      да и всегда у спирит идеальный вижен, и у соперников отключается мозг

  • @motnatt303
    @motnatt303 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    arise still better magnus

  • @korra322
    @korra322 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ar1se

  • @amerhaziq
    @amerhaziq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ggwp

  • @ChaoticSeaServer
    @ChaoticSeaServer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the man who wil be forgotten because he is from russia and gonna be with stuck in russia soon

  • @familykz9581
    @familykz9581 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Коллапс выйграл инт