Canadian Army Ranks 1939-1945

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  • A brief video describing the ranks used by the Canadian Army in the Second World War, with an equally brief introduction to the General Staff system.
    Further reading and resources regarding the Canadian Army of the Second World War:
    Service Publications
    servicepub.com/
    canadiansoldiers.com
    www.canadiansol...
    Department of National Defence Directorate of History and Heritage
    www.cmp-cpm.for...

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  • @seumasnatuaighe
    @seumasnatuaighe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I had a Canadian RSM try to explain your rank structure last year and it hurt my brain. Your concise and elegant visuals made it a bit easier.

    • @konstantinosnikolakakis8125
      @konstantinosnikolakakis8125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's changed now, Lance Corporal doesn't exist anymore, instead now Corporals do their former job and Master Corporals lead sections, Staff sergeant doesn't exist anymore, Sergeants do the same thing mostly, there are more Warrant officer ranks now,
      the Commissioned officer ranks are pretty much the same.

    • @seumasnatuaighe
      @seumasnatuaighe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@konstantinosnikolakakis8125 Thanks, it's one way to confuse your enemies. I met the RSM at the IDF 80th anniversary celebrations last year. He'd been retired for a while and owns a bar in Hamilton.

    • @albertawildcat3164
      @albertawildcat3164 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I spent 4 years in the Canadian Forces (REME) I didn't understand the entire system then and I don't understand it now... and ya, my brain hurt too!
      Good thing I was under a duce and a half or in the guts of an APC or Tank most of the time!

    • @SuperVarunan
      @SuperVarunan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@albertawildcat3164 you mean rceme... If you can't spell your own trades organization properly I can understand why you wouldn't be able to understand the basic concepts of rank structure. TH-cam comments are a special breed of idiots.

    • @quinchypig2
      @quinchypig2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SuperVarunan considering you learn the rank structure in basic, i have to agree lol i will admit to not being able to identify every navy rank even after 12 years ha ha

  • @fnln544
    @fnln544 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Absolutely interesting.
    I was a then army captain (from the states) and the Canadians afforded me undue respect (and I was the visitor).
    I met a captain and the senior NCO, a warrant officer.
    The Canadian personnel were all very accommodating, polite and professional. Plus, I enjoyed the Officer's Mess.
    And it helped I brushed up on my Canadian Army ranks to afford them the proper courtesy and respect.
    Respect for the Canadian Forces!
    Your video was clear and concise, and I learned even more! Thanks!

    • @nickysimi9866
      @nickysimi9866 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What military were you in? Just curious

    • @fnln544
      @fnln544 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nickysimi9866 I live in America and I am still in the army. Thanks.

    • @nickysimi9866
      @nickysimi9866 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fnln544 oh cool. From NZ myself, but am trying to save to move to the states (I really want to serve in the marines)

    • @fnln544
      @fnln544 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nickysimi9866 I served with a soldier, in America, who was from Australia and became a U.S. citizen. He still had a strong Aussie accent! He's also a civilian peace officer.
      Follow your dream. He did. I wish you blessings to come to the states from New Zealand be a Marine. You can always serve and return to NZ.

    • @nickysimi9866
      @nickysimi9866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fnln544 Thats cool, it's funny coz I live in Aus but everyone (both here and back in nz) say I sound american. I was even told by an american co worker that I sounded american.
      And thank you for your kind words, I appreciate it!

  • @mikesmith2905
    @mikesmith2905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thoroughly enjoying these videos, nice to see a clear, coherent and concise description. Why is it the Canadians do this kind of thing so well when other seem less adept?
    Couple of suggested topics: contrast and compare medical services and casualty handling in WW2 and a discussion of the role and distinctive uniform of military police. Logistics is seldom discussed and the provision of arms and supplies to the front line might make an interesting video, for example in North Africa the Brits and Canadians preferred ammo dumps whereas the Germans preferred to have the ammo supply in support columns. In the later war everyone seemed to opt for dumps, with onward shipment to smaller dumps and distribution to individual units in light vehicles such as carriers and jeeps. Similarly there is very little out there on field catering and that might be of interest to diorama makers (one ex RN chap seeing the British army petrol stove in use remarked 'The last time I saw anything like that it was about to be catapulted off the flight deck').
    However doubtless you have your own agenda and I have subscribed to see what you come up with.

  • @godlovespuppies-yb5kl
    @godlovespuppies-yb5kl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The largest lesson I learnt in the CF was:
    Drive with your lights on in daytime and off at night
    And when you retire they take away your watch.

  • @KringeBoy_Productions
    @KringeBoy_Productions 5 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Can you do more uniform based videos? Maybe include the Russians, the US, the Japanese?

    • @thecoongingercoon8611
      @thecoongingercoon8611 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's plenty of US army videos like this I think

    • @mrbrainbob5320
      @mrbrainbob5320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thecoongingercoon8611 no I dont think so

    • @wg1751
      @wg1751 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Japanese, Italy, France would be great.

    • @nasalimbu3078
      @nasalimbu3078 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Monglia hun Daynesty leff like usa

  • @steelercanuck
    @steelercanuck 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    great that you showed the chief warrant officer with a pace stick

  • @gwine9087
    @gwine9087 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    It could be a bit confusing but I found that there was only two things to remember. 1--be able to recognise if the other guy outranks you and 2--know which ones to salute.

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In a good unit, that's all that ever should matter. and even (1) should not matter that much if all the leaders are clearly demonstrating their leadership.

  • @gabrielsymons6210
    @gabrielsymons6210 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This channel is amazing, I love history and figuring out how uniforms got to how they are today and this channel helps fill big gaps. Definitely deserves a like, and subscribe

  • @DanSpadafora
    @DanSpadafora 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    An excellent video as always. Canuck is a great resource book for canadian re-enactors if anyone is looking to get into it.

    • @SmittyMRE
      @SmittyMRE 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I second that. Love that Canuck book. The Author knows his stuff.

  • @majmikecalnan
    @majmikecalnan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As always, an excellent overview, Mike! One small observation: the Navy and Armoured Corps have mere "crews"; the Artillery is blessed with "Detachments".😉😁👍🍁

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I haven't felt *this* bad since the time I leaned on the ceremonial gun carriage the day before Nicola Goddard's funeral....I will endeavour to get it right in future. ;-)

  • @cryptickaoz9494
    @cryptickaoz9494 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for doing this video! The Canadian Army doesn't get credit they deserve for their service and fighting spirit in the war. We were the first to attempt an amphibious landing in Europe and almost no one outside of Canada knows it

    • @mrbrainbob5320
      @mrbrainbob5320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well it did fail disastrously

    • @kevinbelam1609
      @kevinbelam1609 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm a career Late Entry Officer in the British Army with 40 years service; I've served with Canadian troops in Bosnia, the Middle East and Afghanistan and they are great. I always make a point of telling people (including Canadians) how excellent the Canadian forces are and have been throughout the 20th and 21st centuries in particular; citing such events as the taking of Vimy Ridge, D-Day where they made the most successful advance on day 1, etc. Mrbrain bob mentions Dieppe failing disastrously but that was through no fault of the tenacious Canucks fighting skills! I'm proud to say I have served with Canadians and would happily deploy with them again.

    • @helenmartinis5912
      @helenmartinis5912 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We were fucking massacred at Dieppe. Most machinegun posts were facing across the beachhead.

    • @richarddouglas6838
      @richarddouglas6838 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      during WW2, the canadian army was the third country with the most soldiers on duty for the allies, exept the USSR (started wa in 1941) England and US were the 1 and US second,

  • @Nieghorn
    @Nieghorn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great videos! I used to work for a naval/military museum and got really interested in 'trade badges' (if the correct term) of the navy and any other sort of thing that could be earned and displayed skills, achievements, etc.

  • @jole0000
    @jole0000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Can you do something about Finland in WWII next?

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Given the Finns' reputation as among the best soldiers in the world, and my complete inability to pronounce as much as a single word of the language correctly or with any competency (I almost had Hakkaa Päälle down though I have not tried to say it publicly), I will demur as gently as possible out of naked, selfish fear for my life.

    • @jole0000
      @jole0000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@HandGrenadeDivision lmao

  • @legowarrior2461
    @legowarrior2461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’m Canadian and this makes me happy

  • @aspiranttobeapatrioticcana6748
    @aspiranttobeapatrioticcana6748 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    7:56 - Lieutenant General Guy Simonds
    8:08 - General Harry Crerar

  • @darsult8384
    @darsult8384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's nice to learn more about my countries military

  • @keithyork7691
    @keithyork7691 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very good video and very informative. I am lead to believe the change of the rank of Brigadier Gen to Brigadier, was due to formation changes about the mid Great War ( late 1916-early 1917) when the British Army restructured the Brigade from 4 Battalions to 3. I also believe that this reformation in structure was not adopted until 1922 in Canadian divisions(in fact Canadian Great War Divisions were considerable larger than their Commonwealth counterparts). I know this structure was not adopted by Australian Imperial Forces(AIF) until 1940 when the 6th Division arrived in North Africa.... As an aside could you please do a similar video on the Canadian Army Corps during the Great War... The AIF during this period fielded 5 infantry, 1 mounted Infantry Div with a independent Mounted Brigade, and 8 Squadrons. The Canadian Army Corps had 4 divisions. This on first sight would suggest the Australian commitment was higher. But this was not the case twice as many Canadians fought. Casualties were much the same numbers...the %rates were different AIF 64.8%, and Canadian 49.7%, both horrific rates.

  • @walshy3533
    @walshy3533 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent videos! Thank you.

  • @paulcoy9060
    @paulcoy9060 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What did I learn? That when you become a General, you are issued a mustache. Oh, Canada.

  • @kurt44mg42
    @kurt44mg42 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At 10:07 Within the modern British army's brigade structure, the appointment of Brigade Major is now known as the Chief of Staff (COS) and what was known as DAA&QMG is now Deputy Chief of Staff (DCOS).

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes - Canadian staff structure has changed greatly as well, adopting the US (NATO?) standard where G-1 is personnel, G-2 is intelligence, etc.

    • @kurt44mg42
      @kurt44mg42 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HandGrenadeDivision Indeed, you're quite correct. It was adopted from the American staff system and is now used by all NATO member armed forces with G3 branch as operations, plans and training, G4 as logistics, G5 as civilian liaison and G6 as information technology.

    • @qboxer
      @qboxer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      However, at the unit level (Battalion, Regiment), the older structures are often still in place.
      The G Branch is headed by the Operations Officer, who really is in charge of all other general staff functions despite the fact that in a NATO staff system, he would be their peers.
      The Adjutant owns ALL pers management.
      And the Quarter Master is in charge of logistics.
      Plus ca change...

  • @stevethomas5849
    @stevethomas5849 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks that was a great insight in to the Canadian Ranks.

  • @SmittyMRE
    @SmittyMRE 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent, my man. Great work once again. Engaging and informative.

  • @stevekaczynski3793
    @stevekaczynski3793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Canadian battle dress was considered to be of higher quality than the British version, and British troops tried to get hold of such uniforms if they could.

  • @stevekaczynski3793
    @stevekaczynski3793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That film of bagpipers entering a castle at the end looked like it was shot at Edinburgh Castle.

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I believe so, the Army School of Piping was in Edinburgh from 1910 on, specifically Inchdrewer house near Redford Barracks. The film comes from a Canadian Army newsreel of Canadian pipers attending the school.

  • @johnkaminsky1657
    @johnkaminsky1657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very well done!

  • @philippinecircularflag2023
    @philippinecircularflag2023 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    In days of yore, from Britain's shore,
    Wolfe, the dauntless hero, came
    And planted firm Britannia's flag
    On Canada's fair domain.
    Here may it wave, our boast, our pride
    And, joined in love together,
    The thistle, shamrock, rose entwine (Also sung: The lily, thistle, shamrock, rose)
    The Maple Leaf forever!
    Chorus
    The Maple Leaf, our emblem dear,
    The Maple Leaf forever!
    God save our Queen and Heaven bless
    The Maple Leaf forever!
    At Queenston Heights and Lundy's Lane,
    Our brave fathers, side by side,
    For freedom, homes and loved ones dear,
    Firmly stood and nobly died;
    And those dear rights which they maintained,
    We swear to yield them never!
    Our watchword evermore shall be
    "The Maple Leaf forever!"
    Chorus
    Our fair Dominion now extends
    From Cape Race to Nootka Sound;
    May peace forever be our lot,
    And plenteous store abound:
    And may those ties of love be ours
    Which discord cannot sever,
    And flourish green o'er freedom's home
    The Maple Leaf forever!
    Chorus
    On merry England's far famed land
    May kind heaven sweetly smile,
    God bless old Scotland evermore
    and Ireland's Em'rald Isle!
    And swell the song both loud and long
    Till rocks and forest quiver!
    God save our Queen and Heaven bless
    The Maple Leaf forever!
    Chorus

    • @lib556
      @lib556 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Regimental March of The Royal Westminster Regiment (among others)...

    • @rpm1796
      @rpm1796 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We used to sing her in School.

    • @michaelb9529
      @michaelb9529 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love it one of the greatest songs ever. I actually have a tattoo, well several, but one has the thistle, shamrock and rose combined.

    • @DeNihility
      @DeNihility 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This should have been our official anthem.

    • @djpd6499
      @djpd6499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The real anthem

  • @thehistoadian
    @thehistoadian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    That photo at 0:38 wouldnt be from 1855, Canadians only got Pith Helmets in the late 1870s and most still didnt use them until the 1890s (When I am pretty sure that photo was taken)

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If you have a photo of the birth of the Canadian Militia taken in 1855 I'm happy to use it! Seriously, I appreciate the clarification. The photo is actually from 1902 according to a poster elsewhere, and shows Royal Canadian Dragoons who were still serving and had also served with the Cavalry School in 1885. I didn't intend for it to be a literal image of the founding of the Militia, but rather representative of what they looked like in the pre-khaki era 1855 to 1907(-ish?). I agree it may have been handled poorly and will try to do better. Underestimating the knowledge of a 'history crowd' is always done at one's peril.

    • @thehistoadian
      @thehistoadian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@HandGrenadeDivision Its all good just keep up the good work on these videos they are very interesting.

  • @xadrikxaulxu
    @xadrikxaulxu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good Work.

  • @982694
    @982694 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Interesting video, except for a correction. The two Foot Guards Regiments (GGFG & CGG) that converted to armour were given permission to continue using Foot Guards rank structure and names. Also Officers used the Garter Star not the Bath Star.

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The foot regiments were not pre-war tank regiments, which is what is referred to in the video. You are correct that they used their company names, rank titles, etc. There was only so many unique traditions that could be included. Guards officers used the star of the Order of the Garter, but all other officers used the star of the Order of the Bath.

  • @lancelot1953
    @lancelot1953 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hi HandGrenadeDivision, are you Canadian? I am asking as very few people are conscious let alone know the contributions and sacrifices of the Canadians in WW I and WW II. Canadians military and the Canadian civilian supply/logistic support system suffered terribly during WW II, especially (and unfortunately) when under the command of a foreign nation - i.e. England but they did the job. Considering that Canada had ~10% of the American population, the sacrifice were felt throughout the country. Also, Canada entered the war seven 10 days after the invasion of Poland and 7 after the joint declaration of war of France and England against Germany; Canada was in the fight from the beginning to the end (including declaring war against Japan earlier than the United States). Nearly half the ground crews and a quarter of the air crews of the RAF were Canadians and of course the RCAF was Canada's air arm... The majority of supply/troop convoys to Europe assembled in/around the Halifax Harbor (Nova Scotia).
    Again thank you for this very informative and interesting production, Ciao, L (An American Veteran living right South of the border).

    • @theultimategamer8537
      @theultimategamer8537 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey man thanks for the recognition of my country man

    • @rpm1796
      @rpm1796 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Save it.
      The worst enemy of a Canadian in uniform was & remains its own preening government.

  • @themischeifguide
    @themischeifguide 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another great effort.

  • @travel734
    @travel734 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can you tell me where you found the photo at 9:08? The major on the right seems to be my father. He was a logistician (RCOC). Unfortunately in the last weeks of the war his jeep went over a landmine leaving him with permanent scars and broken bones in his hands and face. I would like to try to get a copy of the image. Thanks

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/second-world-war/faces-second-war/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=563& Library and Archives Canada has a digital copy of this image, and you can obtain print copies by applying through LAC.

    • @travel734
      @travel734 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HandGrenadeDivision Thanks!

  • @mariscaljosh2
    @mariscaljosh2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is one inaccuracy in this video... Canada did actually have military cavalry traditions. The Montreal Volunteer cavalry regiment, the Rangers d'Argenteuil and other such cavalry regiments existed. The Royal Canadian Hussars regiment is a descendant of a cavalry unit from the late 1700s.

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The reference in the video is to the prewar tank regiments of which there were only six (Argyll Light Infantry, Calgary Regiment, Windsor Regiment, Essex Regiment, New Brunswick Regiment and Ontario Regiment) which were all infantry regiments - they were absorbed into the Canadian Armoured Corps, alongside the many different cavalry regiments, some of which you accurately identify. The corps as a whole adopted cavalry traditions so today you see those same pre-war tank regiments with squadrons instead of companies, guidons instead of colours, etc.
      See here: www.canadiansoldiers.com/regiments/infantryregiments19371950.htm

  • @randycollins87
    @randycollins87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A very professional and effective Military. Thank you for your service

    • @randycollins87
      @randycollins87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A Detroiter and US Armry veteran applauses your service

    • @rpm1796
      @rpm1796 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@randycollins87
      Go Lions!....but not Wings....

  • @davidmulhall2710
    @davidmulhall2710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks very informative! 🇨🇦

  • @paulphilipempey1
    @paulphilipempey1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very informative upload, thank you. One would think that rank structure would be easy to fathom, especially with the Canadian army (based upon the British army). However, when the different colourings for specific roles comes in it gets slightly confusing. Don't even try with the German army, especially during WWII with the Wehrmacht or SS!

  • @ericfrehlich8800
    @ericfrehlich8800 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very good vid! Are you Canadian too?

  • @benjaminjohnson628
    @benjaminjohnson628 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, would love to see one on Russian rank structure as I've tried researching it but found it a little daunting

  • @quadnod4605
    @quadnod4605 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the video, man!

  • @McCaler
    @McCaler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice to recognize another Canadian. If you don't mind me asking, which province are you from?

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The one with the letter A in the name.

    • @McCaler
      @McCaler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice! Mine is the one with the letter S in the name. ;-)

    • @rpm1796
      @rpm1796 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HandGrenadeDivision
      Antario!

    • @rpm1796
      @rpm1796 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@McCaler
      Not Sanitoba?...fantastic.

  • @professorbonghitx7835
    @professorbonghitx7835 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    please do the Royal Canadian Navy next

    • @coledavis5212
      @coledavis5212 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The RN and RCN have the same ranks.

  • @calexade
    @calexade 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope you do a video just about Britain

  • @EricAlainDufresne
    @EricAlainDufresne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative.

  • @wolfthegreat87
    @wolfthegreat87 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here's a sortof chapter timeline for anyone who wants to skip to specific sections:
    0:00-1:09 Intro/Brief History of the Canadian Army
    1:09-2:00 Other Ranks I (Privates)
    2:00-2:45 Other Ranks II (Junior NCOs)
    2:45-3:17 Other Ranks III (Senior NCOs)
    3:17-4:31 Other Ranks IV (Warrant Officers)
    4:31-4:43 Other Ranks V (Band Appointments)
    4:43-6:05 Officers
    6:05-7:08 Branch Colors
    7:08-8:15 Colonels & Generals
    8:15-10:47 Officer Duties
    10:47-11:15 Conclusion
    11:15-11:29 Credits

  • @davidfox2056
    @davidfox2056 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great video, can you do a video on the Italian army in the WW2.

    • @DanSpadafora
      @DanSpadafora 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I second this request

    • @abrahamdozer6273
      @abrahamdozer6273 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll bet that their uniforms were stylish.

  • @ricknicholson5894
    @ricknicholson5894 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dappling in trivia minushea, Officer Cadet is not an officer. I often tell friends who are military illiterate that any rank that has the word "officer" in it, isn't an officer. The rank of "Brigadier" was a British thing. British Parliament told the military to eliminate half their Generals, so as to give the finger to this request, they removed the word "General" from the rank and reported back - "mission accomplished." In Canada, it has always been Brigadier General and is thus to this day.

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate your taking the time to respond. War Dress Regulations for the Canadian Army published in 1943 clearly state a distinction between "General Officers" and "Brigadiers" and make obvious the latter were not included with the former. Officer cadets are indeed referred to as "Cadets" on p. 27.

    • @kevinbelam1609
      @kevinbelam1609 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HandGrenadeDivision Interestingly to this day, the pay scales for the British military are openly published under the Armed Forces Pay Review Body but only go to 1-Star, Brigadier. The remaining "generals" are under a separate system called the "Senior Officers' Pay Review Body" although the reality is that a 1-star (Brigade Commander or otherwise) is very much considered to a very senior officer and accords VIP status for visits to units, etc.

  • @alexnewbury8365
    @alexnewbury8365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you do the Australian army?

  • @_david_xu_5926
    @_david_xu_5926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellant vidéo

  • @howtogetdisowned7478
    @howtogetdisowned7478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a very weird request. US Coast Guard Ranks during ww2, and awards.

  • @davidgrandy4681
    @davidgrandy4681 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's denotation (the official manual) and connotation (what the guys actually call it). I would just suggest that you add "pip" to your comments (eg "... stars, more commonly known as pips ..." and that should fix everything. At the end of the day it should just be about clarity.

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If the video was about military firearms, I would decline to refer to them as bangsticks or bundhooks for the same reason I used the term "star." Slang and jargon do not provide clarity, they obscure it - particularly for those who use English as a secondary language, but even for native speakers. Likewise, I used the term 1-bar chevron, 2-bar chevron etc. rather than colloquialisms such as "stripes" or "hooks."

  • @ghailanemirsyaputra7918
    @ghailanemirsyaputra7918 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can you actually do a video on the
    "Avante division"? I know this is a chanel for the hand grenade division. But I am just curious about the history of it

  • @miltonthomaslowe
    @miltonthomaslowe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about a vid of the French prior to the conquest of Canada? Thanks for comprehensive presentation.

  • @ReviveHF
    @ReviveHF 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do more of these videos! Please include the Italians and the Chinese.

  • @rebelandchief
    @rebelandchief 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you add any Luftwaffe videos?

  • @mari0664
    @mari0664 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    How bout French rankings?

    • @tostie3110
      @tostie3110 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      French would be very cool. That country ranking has never been clear to me.

    • @mari0664
      @mari0664 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Luuk de Wijse ikr

    • @local38on-tv
      @local38on-tv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yeah, you have the person who orders surrender, then the ones who surrender

  • @regalsamyt1849
    @regalsamyt1849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do one on Australia!

  • @lib556
    @lib556 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    excellent.

  • @FlareLightPro
    @FlareLightPro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Queens Own! long history of being different! XD

  • @grant7517
    @grant7517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done

  • @ANDGE1944
    @ANDGE1944 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    could we have Fallschirmjager uniform video in the near future?

  • @zoardszabo
    @zoardszabo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do more videos about uniforms? (for example the U.S., the U.K., the Soviet Union, Italy, Hungary, Romania, Finland, Poland etc.)

  • @stephenduffy5406
    @stephenduffy5406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it true that second lieutenants were not given combat field commands, but only first lieutenants were?

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I seem to think this is correct though I don't have a primary reference in front of me.

  • @madisonmorell4336
    @madisonmorell4336 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My great-grandfather was the RQMS for the North Shore Regiment during WWII❤❤

  • @matthewbrown6163
    @matthewbrown6163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    UK, New Zealand & Australian Military all have the same rank / structure as Canada as we all under the Commonwealth. Artillery Officers wore Silver Buttons on their dress uniforms whilst us other officers wore brass buttons. New uniforms issued have the rank identified on the chest rather than epaulettes & stripes are worn pointing down (not up like USA).

    • @raseli4066
      @raseli4066 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have any source to back up the claim?

    • @matthewbrown6163
      @matthewbrown6163 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which claim ? The dress uniforms or the English Stripes ? My mate & I went through Officer Cadets & came through to Artillery but for it was Signals so I had the brass buttons on my dress uniform.
      Rank has moved off sleeves for non-commissioned offer to the middle of the chest. Check out ANY of the Australian / NZ military sites for further information.

    • @raseli4066
      @raseli4066 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewbrown6163 I'm sorry.
      I dident know you where in the officers cadets

    • @matthewbrown6163
      @matthewbrown6163 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raseli4066 First Lesson in life - Never Assume. Very long time ago I left as a Captain. I enjoyed my time & thankfully no wars in my time. OCTU was fantastic training for the future. Reserve units are rarely activated unless under an Emergency.

  • @koloodragon
    @koloodragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, Master Bombardier! Ur rank sounds coolest.

  • @danielpapuga4615
    @danielpapuga4615 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you do a video on First World War Germany uniforms?

  • @rafewu6071
    @rafewu6071 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can u do one for the Royal Navy

  • @drewschieman1741
    @drewschieman1741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Our ranks may have been confusing but we were effective nonetheless

  • @DeezNuts-cg9gl
    @DeezNuts-cg9gl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not sure how it was back then, but the 'star' on officer ranks gets called a 'pip' far more commonly, at least in the British army since at least the 60s.

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The correct term used in period documentation for the insignia is "star." I have no doubt you are correct that slang terms were also used frequently.

    • @DeezNuts-cg9gl
      @DeezNuts-cg9gl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HandGrenadeDivision That's interesting. Never heard it been called a 'star' before, even on current documentation. But then again times have changed.

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      National Army Museum - www.nam.ac.uk/explore/british-army-ranks

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      British Army Dress Regulations: assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/626107/2017-03109.pdf

  • @addisongrigg1180
    @addisongrigg1180 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    are these exactly the same as British ranks , as Canada was a meber of the British empire and commonwealth?

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, as I understand it. The uniforms were different (if only slightly) and the insignia a little different (British other ranks wore a arm of service stripe on each sleeve, for example, while Canadian ORs did not). Brian L. Davis has a full list of the ranks and appointments in his book on British Army Uniforms and Insignia of World War II. www.amazon.ca/British-Army-Uniforms-Insignia-World/dp/185409159X

    • @addisongrigg1180
      @addisongrigg1180 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HandGrenadeDivision thanks!

  • @randycheow4268
    @randycheow4268 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do a video about the British uniforms next

  • @jmc2903
    @jmc2903 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The officers did not have Stars they had Pips.

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Pip" has always been a slang term. The insignia is a miniature of the Order of the Bath, which is referred to technically as a star.

  • @nativegerry335
    @nativegerry335 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's the difference between the infantry and the rifles regiments? Seems very much the same

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately this is a more complicated question than it deserves to be. The basic infantry unit that made up all the infantry brigades were referred to as "rifle batatlions" (small 'r') to distinguish them from the machine gun battalions that supported them. However, there were also "Rifle regiments" ('capital R) that had unique traditions. They were organized as standard infantry or 'rifle' units, but wore black badges, marched past at the double time with weapons at the trail, did not have regimental colours, etc. In action all rifle battalions were organized according to the same war establishment and used the same tactics, etc., regardless of whether they had "Rifle" traditions or not.

    • @nativegerry335
      @nativegerry335 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HandGrenadeDivision it seems like a matter of lineage. Just like grenadier and Highlander regiments are just regular infantry today but had specific roles before

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, you are exactly correct. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

    • @rpm1796
      @rpm1796 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HandGrenadeDivision
      Regular 'Line' Infantry Rgt.
      Light Infantry, 'Rifle' Rgt….and then there's Canada..where her Light infantry wears Regular infantry rig....lord luv a duck!
      (Once A Patricia)

  • @spongehero2819
    @spongehero2819 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you!

  • @Emtbtoday
    @Emtbtoday 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any British rank video's?

  • @aspiranttobeapatrioticcana6748
    @aspiranttobeapatrioticcana6748 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    *_WE SHALL YIELD THEM NEVER_*
    The Canadian government should have retained the proper Army ranks instead of amalgamate all branches of the Canadian Armed Forces.

    • @travel734
      @travel734 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Paul Hellyer was responsible for that blunder. A waste of money and it hurt morale.

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Integration did have some advantages. Having one National Defence Headquarters is - ostensibly - more efficient than three different service headquarters. But the implementation of Unification went too far. The uniforms were terrible and the rank structure inefficient (leading to the creation of the Master Corporal appointment which is still contentious as it destroyed the status of the rank of corporal in the Army and led to rank inflation). Coupled with the unpopular war in Vietnam, men (and women) left the service in droves. UFO stories aside (Google it) one can sympathize a little bit with Hellyer - his own experience in the war was to be remustered and have to repeat his training, and one can see how it would colour his views of an integrated defence system. And he was probably right at least in that regard. But sensible integration unfortunately went hand in hand with more sweeping changes that few wanted and nobody really needed.

    • @klondikechris
      @klondikechris 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They basically have, for the Army, and Navy at least. The Air Force uses Army ranks, more or less.

    • @travel734
      @travel734 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@klondikechris The Army and Navy always kept their titles. But now they have the rank insignia back. The Air Force seems to have kept Army ranks, perhaps to be more American.

    • @qboxer
      @qboxer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Integration of headquarters into a joint, single HQ was necessary and good. However, most of the other changes were rubbish, doing nothing but damage to the military writ large.
      The Canadian Army still has the problem of Master Corporal - not a rank, but an appointment whose holders are still Corporals. Trained by their courses to be Section Commanders, being written in on the order of battle as second in commands but actually employed as Sect Commanders in most units... It's a big mess.
      And having Senior NCOs as Sect Commanders, while a good idea on paper (more experienced soldiers at a lower level?) injects a division between the entirety of the section and their commander. The tripartite system of Junior Ranks - Senior Ranks - Officers works well... it should have been retained.

  • @barrynewman4456
    @barrynewman4456 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4.02 RSM Peter McGinley MM 1st Bn The Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders of Canada (PL) July 1945 Germany

  • @stephensmith5982
    @stephensmith5982 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am kind of a rank insignia nerd. I'm principally interested in the enlisted grades of all the armies around the world. I discover that there seems to be a very great variation in the enlisted grades but very little variation in the commissioned grades. Has anyone else noticed this fact?

    • @robowisanveithasung6022
      @robowisanveithasung6022 ปีที่แล้ว

      that is a good question, i have no idea either. it may be because the British and US rank of Private comes from private soldiers, but since the enlisted of various armies were recruited in different ways, terms had to change somewhat

  • @lankinator.
    @lankinator. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    07:49 shouldn't Major General have a Crown and the crossed swords as their insignia and the Lieutenant General have the pip (bath star) and crossed swords as their insignia seeing as after Brigadier the General ranks go in reverse (I.e. Major to Lieutenant rather than Lieutenant to Major)

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The video is correct.

    • @kevinbelam1609
      @kevinbelam1609 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The reason that Major General (crown and crossed swords) is junior to the Lieutenant General (Star and crossed swords) is because the terminology for Major General used to be Sergeant Major General, the badge of rank for a WO2 (Sergeant Major) was and still is a large crown, worn on the cuff (though now in PCS MTP and previously in CS 95 the badges of rank for all ranks are worn on the chest though in Barrack Dress, Mess Dress and No.2 and No.1 Dress we still wear our ranks as pre-1995 i.e. officers on the shoulder, WOs on the cuff and NCOs on the middle-upper sleeve. The badge of rank for a major is also the crown of the current sovereign (changes depending whether a Queen or King is the sovereign) but it is much smaller than that for a WO2 (Sergeant Major). However, Canadians changed from the British system a few decades ago and went for badges of rank that are the same across all three services of the CDF, so they no longer use stars and crowns.

  • @skeip6331
    @skeip6331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Red army uniforms, anyone? :0

  • @abrahamdozer6273
    @abrahamdozer6273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now, compare those to the Naval ranks and the new inventions that came with the "unified" Canadian Armed Forces ... such as 'Master Corporal"

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Comparisons to naval ranks would not be useful since naval personnel have much different duties and responsibilities than army soldiers. Post-unification ranks would be a subject to themselves, "master corporal" came about rather by accident from the "B corporal" designation. Perhaps some day.

    • @abrahamdozer6273
      @abrahamdozer6273 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HandGrenadeDivision That's for sure. There is a Grand Canyon of difference between an Army Captain and a Navy Captain. After unification, Marcom even had to invent a new rank that wasn't' there before ... "Master Seaman" just so the pay levels lined up and were transferable..

  • @maximilienfrancoisderobesp202
    @maximilienfrancoisderobesp202 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you talk about SS ranks?

  • @Hsutheguard
    @Hsutheguard 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EH! never expect this!

  • @davidgrandy4681
    @davidgrandy4681 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A "rank star" was called a pip.

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The correct term used in period documentation is rank star. They are still called that, for what it is worth. "Pip" was, and is, a slang term. I don't doubt that it is more commonly used in conversation.

    • @richarddouglas6838
      @richarddouglas6838 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HandGrenadeDivision even in french, in the canadian army we called these ''pipes''

  • @cheng3580
    @cheng3580 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait. This ain't a German army video UNSUB!!!!! Jk I love this! Please make more for other countries who fought in the 2nd World War.

  • @michaeltroster9059
    @michaeltroster9059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very confusing. I pity a new young recruit trying to make sense of this hodgepodge.

  • @corystyan3387
    @corystyan3387 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am trying to figure out what rank is featured on the uniform of a relative from WWII. It has the artillery badge above 3 chevrons, thus telling me they were artillery and the 3 chevrons indicating sgt but the kicker is that there is a crown and another unknown badge situated within the 3 chevrons. The unknown badge reminds me of some of the current RCAF trade badges that feature a wing hanging down on either side. If anyone out there might know what this rank is, please let me know. Thanks.

    • @inanimatt
      @inanimatt ปีที่แล้ว

      My guess would be that the soldier was an artillery observer. During ww2 there was an army aviation unit that spotted for gunners on the ground and had attached artillery personnel who went up in the planes.

  • @danielbarnes4218
    @danielbarnes4218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeaaaa we still use the same ranking structure to this day, maybe 1 or 2 changes but very similar

  • @wiktorkowalkowska
    @wiktorkowalkowska 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do Polish uniforms

  • @Maxibon2007
    @Maxibon2007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video but: “caste system” “no cavalry tradition” ?!....ouch!

  • @clpfox470
    @clpfox470 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what did the forestry corp do?

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They cut down trees. There was an enormous need for wood on the Western Front during the First World War - and with so many able-bodied men going into the service, they had to use many of them for lumbering - the lumber was then used for building duckboards, etc. The forestry units were also used as labour and a repository for underage men who were discovered to have lied their way into service. The forestry corps was reinstated during the Second World War.

    • @clpfox470
      @clpfox470 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      huh thats really interesting, thanks for replying

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@clpfox470 Canadians also formed a special tunnelling company from the Royal Canadian Engineers which helped dig out command posts etc. on the rock of Gibraltar. cmea-agmc.ca/heritage-moment/canadian-tunnellers-tackle-gibraltar

  • @Unknown-mr3yq
    @Unknown-mr3yq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For the Canadian army officers, its not called a star, its called a pip

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It has never been correctly known as a pip, as that is a slang term. It is a star, the Star of the Order of the Bath to be specfic.

  • @JoinMeInDeathBaby
    @JoinMeInDeathBaby 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Red army next maybe?