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- It happened. Way earlier than expected between Norris and Verstappen.
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In this video, we dive deep into the explosive events of the Austrian Grand Prix where tensions between Max Verstappen and Lando Norris reached a boiling point, resulting in significant penalties and dramatic incidents that left fans on the edge of their seats. Witness the intense collision that led to substantial damage to both cars, altering the race's outcome and highlighting Norris's aggressive tactics reminiscent of the fierce battles from past seasons. Explore how this incident has strained the once-solid friendship between Norris and Verstappen, drawing striking parallels to historic F1 rivalries like Hamilton and Rosberg. With in-depth insights into the evolving dynamics between these drivers and their teams, we predict a thrilling 2024 season filled with high-stakes drama and intense competition. This video is a must-watch for F1 enthusiasts eager to understand the implications of this race on the championship standings and the future of these racing titans. Don’t miss out on the latest updates, expert analysis, and a comprehensive breakdown of what this means for the world of Formula 1. Subscribe now and stay tuned for more exciting F1 content, including our upcoming winners and losers video.
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I apologise for the hot and scatterbrained take in this video. This is what one gets like in the heat of the moment. I will have a more measured and composed take ready for tomorrow as well as my other takes from the weekend. Hope you understand.
Passion makes us wild with emotion at times.
Thank you... You really need to revisit that Max-Lando incident...
To me, fact of the matter is Max buckled under pressure, as usual.
10 sec penalty for ocon
C’mon buddy. We want this from u. Be yourself. 👍🏼
Loving it, that is how I get 😂
Dude, you nailed it!
I feel George can sum this up the best: 'Crikey'
George summed it up best when he replied (to Norris's overtake attempt) : "Oh, No way!"
Yaba daba doo is his new one 🤮
@@WB-kx7jw that was so awful :|
Butter me crumpets!
YABA DABA DOOOOO
"Carlos comes in third. Which is neat..."😂😂😂
He threw shade about being ahead of Perez and Lewis. He had a s**t eating grin as he said it.
@@MrPeterheveranyou seem very offended lol
@@MrPeterheveranCan a man not smile anymore? 😂
Funny thing is Sainz on the podium while Leclerc… 😈
Good for Carlos!
We need to talk about Hulkenberg’s race? Certainly one of the winners from today’s Austrian GP.
Yeah, George was the only winner of the GP.
Haas in general honestly, huge for the both of them
@@wonder-pdlAbsolutely and now that they both got a load of points, they are close to Vcarb for p6 in the constructors and they surpassed Alpine again
That track limits ”violation” for Oscar in the quali feels even worse now. He would probably have won that race without it. That said, I believe that the guy whos now one of my favourite drivers will win it eventually.
Oscar has the raw talent to be a champion. Let's see if he has the work ethic and required luck to do so.
eh the whole race changes if he's up there at the front. theres a reason Kimi hated those "do you think you would have won if you didnt crash out?" type questions.
@@sirmounted8499 if you see interviews with Zack and the other people around McLaren it really sounds like he is a work horse, and willing to put in the hours for the team, cant imagine he doesnt have the work ethic to put in the hours and the effort to become a champion
It’s easy to forget that it’s only Oscars second year in f1 he is really promising
without the VSC Oscar could have won
Max had a collision and a puncture and yet still finished ahead of checo on track.
All that needs to be said really....
Pérez thought he was driving a VCARB
He needs to go. Is going to cost them constructors
In the past 4 races he’s had fights with Hass in all 4, and dnf’d twice while out of the points. He also has only scored 14 points since Miami
All that needs to be said is that Checo brings KitKat as a sponsor lmao
@@TheMikellehthey get more money in sponsorship than they lose by getting 2nd in the championship
also lando definitely didn't deserve DOTD - I'd have given it to Hulk
I voted Piastri but Hulk is definitely a good shout yeah.
Him or Russell probably
@@LuminalSpoon russell did absolutely nothing throughout the race other than being in the right place at yesterday's quali if oscar didnt had the that penalty the win would have been his russell's win was pure luck and being at the right place at the right time
Max kinda merited dotd prior to his a bit too much elbows out defending.
does lando still have the 5 second penalty on him because he DNF'ed after being given a penalty?
Fernando stealing fastest lap made me so happy Fernando is my favorite driver on the grid this season has been pain
being a Fernando fan is the same as being a Ferrari fan, nothing but pain
@@sirmounted8499 plan*
Anyone can get fastest lap with fresh tyres.
@@stableianF1oracle i know but still verstapen had fresh softs and fernando is my favorite
@@callsingadder No points for it but hey ho. It's good you're loyal to Alonso. Shame the car is a donkey nowadays. They would do better bringing last year's car and race that. 👍👍
Good for George for being in the right place at the right time. A win is a win so he should be very proud
He predicted that something like that collision was going to happen on Quali Saturday.
It wasn't really a puncture, Max's rim was bent and Lando's was actually broken and cracked at the bead, there was a huge chunk of it missing. I have to wonder what would have happened there with the old tires with the small rims.
This is what most pundits didn’t even see or realize
How can you comment on something you don’t fully understand!
If you watch in slow motion, it looked like a piece of one of the wheels got launched up into the sky. Could be that missing piece from Lando's wheel
Is it me... or is Oscar a lot more mature than Lando?
This race has been another example of this.
Oscar is more mature than the Dalai Lama to be fair.
@@PKWeaver74 haha so true!
He not matured , he just opportunistic when both mature guys fought Infront to ki// each other
Yes he is he's amazing, and makes Lando look desperate at times...
I'm Dutch so obviously just a bit more of a Max than a Lando fan (but can anyone possibly NOT like him?), but Max clearly went a bit too far defending here, and the penalty seemed fully justified to me. That said, rergardless of the outcome I very much enjoyed the fight, with both being very agressive (as they should!) and right on or in that last case just a bit over the line. That's what's racing is all about. As long as they're not sending each other straight into the barriers at 300 km/h, I'm all good with it.
As for Lando to DNF, I guess this also shows at what point in their carreer they are. Both had damage, Max brought the car back and made the most of it, Lando let the anger get the better of him, drove back like a madman and destroyed his car in the proces. Understandably, but still.
And pretty sure their friendship will survive. I bet their next sim race will be a blast to watch though 😆
Nice to see some balance from a max fan. For me you truly learn the character of a racer and person in life, under duress. Anytime max has to compete he simply runs people off the road and provides a racing ultimatum. It’s ugly to me but it sure was entertaining racing. I don’t think their friendship will survive though. Primarily they are driven to win and max seems willing to punt anyone off to get his way. He is single minded, ruthless and unrepentant. I have never seen him admit his was in the wrong nor apologies regardless of how blatant the transgression might be. Also that McLaren is fast now so this may be an every week thing.
@@kharyandmariemanderson9347 unless you have a car that is leagues better than anything else, combined with a theam mate that's either not so good or held in place by team orders, you won't become world champion without being like that. If Lando wants to compete on that level, he'll eventually will do the same. or will always keep playing second fiddle. Not just against Max, but against anyone who's fighting for the absolute top.
Lando today was attacking like Max would. Unfortuinately for him, he met someone defending like Max would, and it eventually all ended in tears. Won't be the last time, and it won't always be Max to blame. It would mean we get a great title fight though, and I'd love to see Lando truly step up to that.
The one thing I am left wondering about is after the contact, with max having the unseated rear tire, was he attempting to push Lando off the track? As it turned out Lando had a catastrophic failure and destroyed his own car and ultimately wouldn’t have the pace, but in the moment it looked like he might be able to overtake and max was pushing him off the track potentially leading to a second crash.
It was great television, but those actions after the crash… it’s uneasy to think there was possibly some underlying malice there.
@@kharyandmariemanderson9347 Max was definitely agressive in his defence but let's be honest, Lando was just as aggressive, if not more today. Those divebomb attacks were reminiscent of Max in 2021....
@@jabba969No that was Max style in 2019 against Leclerc in same circuit...😅
love how russel just keeps profiting from this fued
Let him cut... 😂😂😂
One wonders the fireworks if Oscar had ended up starting from third today. Snatching a win from his own teammate as well as Max. Silverstone will be one to watch.
I still think it would have been Max or Lando P1 and the other P2 with Oscar P3. Definitely would have won with the crash though.
I think it won't matter as Piastri for sure gonna take P2 because he would overtake Norris after divebomb Verstappen
It will happen soon. Hes showing himself to be an intelligent rather than emotional driver.
MADMAX better hope Woody/Lando/SLH aren't within 1sec of him during the race at Silverstone!!
Law
I thought the same thing for the friendship over 😂
Rosberg and Hamilton vibes from 2016 for sure
Without the crash (probably):
VER 1st +25
NOR 2nd +18
Max gains +7 Points in the Championship Battle
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With the crash:
VER 5th +10
NOR DNF +0
Max gained +10 Points in the Championship Battle
Max lost a Win for his stats here but if the Championship will be close in the end these 12 Points Max gained over the weekend could come in crucial!
So true 😂😂😂
Yeh and the real biggest loser here is Charles which was nowhere anyways he is a close 3rd in the standings
Is Charles car ok ? It has been requiring a lot of resets and the car can’t seem to work properly. It can’t all be the issue in lap one as it’s been a couple races. Any idea what’s going on?
The redbull master plan
Its nit g7nna ve close at the end, lando is not gonna be magically closing in 80 points on max
Lando Is driving the same way that max has always been driving and both max and the “press” used to call it aggressive and somehow good when max does it
George got lucky, and that’s okay. Luck is very much underrated in sports. He got himself in a position where he COULD profit from Max and Lando coming together. Max changed direction twice, even if it was slightly. 10 seconds was correct imo. And just like Charles learned (ironically also in Austria), Lando now knows that fighting Max takes something extra. Learning curve, people! Awesome race, content generator.
Dutch media are pretty unified in saying that the collision was on Max and that the penalty was correct. And that Max should initiate the conversation with Lando.
So now they choose to be objective ❤ to be fair the level of patriotic vitriol in 21 was awful from both sides. Incidents were 50/50 on both and both sides blew things way out of proportion and context. just a poor end to a good season with all the controversy and bs.
@@Lee883 They being objective because Max already lead the championship with bigger numbers. So no pressure to put on him😅If they lead 1 point difference they won't do that to Max
@@Lee883 brits are more nationalist than americans when it comes to f1
@@Lee883 Lee, I don't often say this ... but are you dense? Dutch media and commentators have always been critical of Max, especially when there's an incident. If it's his fault, they will tell that "well, this one really is on Max." Even during his battles with Hamilton, they were fair towards both Hamilton and Verstappen. So ... I have no idea where you get this sarcastic surprise from.
To me, what Max showed today is that he didn't loose his edge. He won't let anyone overtake him easily. Unfortunately for Norris, he probably didn't have to race on skill alone before. So, just like Leclerc and Hamilton have experienced, if you want to overtake Verstappen, be ready. Even Hamilton has some tricks up his sleeve.
@@Lee883
Don't act as if you brits are objective, when any brit participates in anything the brittish commentary always becomes horrendous. The bias in English media is unreal.
Netflix ordered Max to ‘sweep the leg’
Get him a body bag 🥋
Bahahaha!!!
Max on, Max off.
@@duderama6750 Nice one
Yeah -johnny- Max yeah
Not even a Lando fan, of course he has a lot to learn but that’s why he’s up there fighting with Max. All a learning lesson, he’s going to get better as he goes.
So, people keep saying that 'Max and Lando are best mates!' but there was a race last year where during an interview, someone said that to Lando and Lando, i don't believe sarcastically, said 'Stop saying that. Don't ever say that again.' implying that their bromance is blown WAY out of proportion. He seemed to imply that they get on just fine, but that they're not best friends.
Exactly! It's the media and "fans" who keep running with the bromance story. Even if they just like to play games together outside of racing, why would today have any effect on it? It's like people forget that if you're on track, at the court, or on the matt, there are no friends. Imagine going for a win, but you keep thinking about your "friendship" XD It's like people never joined any tournament before.
@@BruceKarrde to be fair i don't think anyone thinks they're best friends in general, but they've been each other's best friend out of anyone on the grid. max himself had said so, and that's what the bromance was referring to. best friends on the grid, not overall
This is what we want no? Hard racing at the front. Max moving under breaking to defend, and Lando absolutely dive bombing. This is the excitement we want.
It's more exciting if the top open-wheel drivers can fight fair wheel-to-wheel battles; something guys like Verstappen, Hamilton, Ocon et al. can't do.
This all stems from a certain sociopathic German multi-world champion in the 90's & 2000's who was allowed to get away with it too often by the FIA. The FIA has led to the current predicament of poor driving in battles that has been going on for a long time now in F1.
@@mikespearwood3914collisions /crashes is what makes it fun and interesting.
No dive bombs and defending under breaking make it interesting. Clumsily bumping into your competitor who’s fully along side is childish. That’s why Lewis was better the Schumacher
@@YUBU8 breaking and weaving isn't allowed so that argument goes into the water, aka, the thing that Max likes to do, aka, tha thing that was banned because of him. You claim Lewis being better than Michael, but i didn't hear Michael complaining too much about other drivers that raced against him for, dunno, defending and calling it dangerous driving. Michael was not the cleanes, but neither is Lewis, especially not Max who is very dirty and we saw it again today. Max under preasure doesn't like to be under preasure because he treats it like stock car. 10 sec today was a joke. 10 sec should be given for weaving the many times he did. Causing another driver to dnf should be 10 place penalty. Yes we want to see hard and good racing, but ffs keep it fair. Max doesn't really know how to do that...
@@biljancanin It'd called racing. Perhaps you do not like that, and that is very well, but to call Max "very dirty" and keep piling bs on the man is very telling. Bitterness is not a good way to rate a driver.
"He didn't keep turning right" - that's not really true, he only stopped turning right after the first bump and then drifted further to the left and off track when the tyre was damaged. This is best seen in the overhead camera perspective.
If that was true, he wouldn’t have gotten the penalty
@@valerierodger no he got the penalty for initially squeezing Lando (not leaving a car's width) and making contact. Thats it. After the first bump they both turned in but Lando more than Max, which caused his front wing to touch Max's rear tyre, which caused an immediate puncture and Max to go off track. You can see it on ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the replays. Go watch. The stewards reasoning for the penalty makes no sense because he only went wide after his wheel was busted, not to mention that's not what you're supposed to penalise the driver on.
I am willing to say that the incident was absolutely and entirely Maxes fault. Sure Lando did some iffy moves before but not a single one of them resulted in a collision. What did result in a collision is Max moving and squeezing Lando. I think Max was doing it on purpose but he didnt think this much damage would be done.
As a Verstappen fan, I enjoyed this fight, it kept me on the edge of my seat. Piastri proves again that he is a better investment than Perez is.
Is he really though. I hear Perez comes with a big pile of money and doesn’t give the lead team driver any headaches. Imagine the issues Zack brown is going to have once piastri improves his race pace 🎆🎇🧨
@@YUBU8 True. But the key word being "if", I think they'll cross that bridge once they get to it. But at present Norris and Piastri look more balanced, so they can technically catch up to Red Bull if Perez keeps underperforming
@@YUBU8having 2 drivers in the run for the championship is a pretty nice issue to have
@@victorvale1015 not when they are constantly crashing into each other taking points and money from the team. That’s why ocon(the better drive) has to go even though they are a back marker team.
Eventually what always happens is one drivers ends up having to go anyways. You need someone competent but not equal to your driver. Oscar is that now but if he becomes equal in race pace with lando then he will start causing headaches for the team unless decides that being the number 2 driver is ok with him
@@YUBU8 two drivers being on similar levels without fighting isn’t unheard of, and if we get to the point in the next few seasons where they are both driving on an equal level there’s a case to be made that Oscar, as the less experienced driver and the one that’s inevitably not prioritised as the current second driver, is the better long term option for the no.1 seat 🤷♀️ McLaren is a very different situation than alpine, those two have personal, deep rooted and childish issues. Uneven pairings like Perez and Verstappen have some pretty obvious downsides too.
Honestly, I would have preferred Oscar won over Russel. Something about Russel rubs me the wrong way..lol And I’m a Max fan. I think the RB pitwall should’ve just informed Max that Lando had a time penalty for track limits, so not worth risking it. He would’ve gotten the win anyway. But I get it Max wants a win on merit, I understand. But big picture thinking would have gone a longer way.
There are 2 rules. You are allowed to make 1 defensive move. You cant move under breaking. The reason for this is if you do, guess what, you can cause an accident. 2 lessons from this. Whilst Max is undoubtably the best driver at the moment, his huge gaps where more the car than him (which is really bad news for Perez), and second Max reacts badly to pressure.
Max moved under braking 4 times I observed very clearly PRIOR to the incident. Lap 63 really deserved a penalty and that was before the collision. Lando even said it was getting dangerous...
I know Max wanted that win in front of his fans, but realistically, he should have let him by safely, and with the 5 second penalty for track limits, Max would’ve probably won anyway.
It was going to happen. I will just say this. Max has looked damn near invincible for the past few seasons. Today lando pushed him to go back to the older less calculated max. As was said in the video. Lando is still unpolished. By the end of the year lando will be ready to win the title next year. If lando can keep pushing max to use his older style which is more risky. I think lando can go for the title. It's exciting. I'm not even a McLaren fan and I'd like to see them win a title again. Plus Oscar is also going to be improved. Lewis fought max on his own basically. Do you think max can hold off lando prime and ultra instinct oscar? I don't think he will.
Alpine also imploding as they get a new team principal 😂😂😂
Also as a Max fan, that was 110% Max's fault, he literally drifted into Lando's line under braking, then he ruined both races because of it. Lando didn't deserve a penalty for it, only Max did
Lando's penalty was for track limits violations. which he exceeded on the previous divebomb overtake failure (the one before max held his place while off the track...). It just happened to be thrown up on the screen while they were recovering from the crash (or just before it?)
I am a Max fan and it was Max's fault. Didn't leave racing room and moving under braking. Max also gained an advantage off track so was always going to get a 5 sec penalty. I am disappointed in Max. Lando gave the place back straight away and gave racing room. The points gap is greater now than a 1-2 result. Lando deserved to win but that is F1
EDIT: This was a hot take. Tomorrow's video will be more measured and with more information.
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Oh good, give it some serious analysis and thought first ....
I appreciate seeing your passion and raw emotion
Into copse lap 3 ... Grab your popcorn next weekend
I’m going to Silverstone for the first time this year and have seats at copse (Stirling b) do you mind explaining what you think will go down at copse? Seen a few comments like this but I think I’m missing some context😅
@@victorvale1015 hamilton and verstappen had a big crash at cops in 2021 when they were fighting for the championship. maxs driving today reminded a lot of people of the two in 2021.
@@victorvale10152021 Verstappen vs Hamilton
@@the4GIVEN thanks, hope I get to see some drama😂
I'd have given DOTD to Hulk, awesome drive. And imo Verstappen deserved the 10 seconds, he moved under braking way too hard in that corner.
Norris had to drive with his elbows up to show Verstappen that he won't be bullied. Far too many times drivers have just practically waved Verstappen by instead of fighting him for position. I know this cost Norris points but in the future Verstappen will know that Norris just won't fold when dicing with him. As far as Verstappen rarely being held accountable for his dodgy driving; could it be that the FIA just doesn't want to deal with Jos and his oft time violent behavior? This might be hyperbole but in regards to Max, nobody wants to deal with Jos so they let him run everything from the shadows of the pits. Anyway, really looking forward to Silverstone and congrats to Haas for finally looking like a real F1 Team instead of a bunch of wankers who are just out there for the fun.
BTW, finally subscribed to your channel. Not sure why it took so long but it's been addressed. Your style just makes it like I'm talking with a buddy instead of someone who looks down on others because they sees themselves as an insider. On to Britannia!!
As Sainz said in the cooldown room, this was bound to happen between Verstappen and Norris eventually. Also felt a tiny pang of sorry for Leclerc, as he has once mentioned Hans Zimmer as his favorite composer, and Zimmer was handing out trophies, a missed opportunity for Leclerc.
Did you just say you cant believe Crashstappen got a penalty 😂😂😂😂😂😂
He might've actually watched the incident and the onboards, crazy stuff, I know.
That wasn't a racing incident, Law. Lando was alongside and Max blatantly ran him off the track, no ifs or buts.
Frankly both drivers getting a puncture was not even Verstappen's most dirty or dangerous move.
Somehow Max is going to have to stopped from doing this, and I suspect the only way he will learn is if such 'behaviour' will guarantee him a DNF - Indeed if I were Lando I'd tell Max strait, "Every time you do that to me you won't be finishing the race, even if it means I won't either."
You have to call a bully's bluff, especially if it's dangerous, or they will keep doing it.
Been saying that for years, but Max is a psychopath raised by an even greater psychopath.
This whole thing reminds me of when Max was fighting for his 1st wdc against Hamilton
Hi, Netflix here.. Keep doing this boys.
Max moving under braking multiple times pretty much forced Lando to drive crazy, the stewards should have given a warning at least.
It was gravely exaggerated. That's why they didn't give him a warning. It was within the limits. Lando just became too desperate and frustrated because Max had an answer to everything.
@@Roguescienceguy nah, he did move under breaking not just once. Forcing Lando off the track once while doing so and then taking Lando off all together the next time? Max for the longest time has been given a slap on the wrist for stuff like this. Remember Vegas last year? Max even laughed at the 5 seconds for driving Charles completely off the track and therefore gaining a position.
@@Roguescienceguy The guys on the international stream would like to have a word with you. The lap before the incident they said "the referees need to do something."
@@meikgeik who? The international stream guys. As in British or not knowing what they say. When actual unbiased racing drivers make an analysis based on all the onboards then I will take their word over whatever Palmer has to say. Not that he doesn't know anything about racing, he obviously was reasonably mediocre, but he can't make a fair analysis without properly looking at the footage. If you would actually do that then you would also see how ridiculous Lando's whining was. Max had the corner, he dictates where he positioned himself. Bar one iffy manoeuvre all the other instances were him opening up his corner at the last moment to load up his tyres for maximal mechanical grip. That is why they didn't intervene because Lando's moves were increasingly desperate and alot of the same. I have been mighty impressed with his speed and consistency, but this race was a poor showing from his part. Zak better stops with getting him too excited. It isn't helping
@@biljancanin Max stepping over the line in pretty much every interaction prior to this one. Yep, you are right. Totally agree. But he didn't at Austria. Tell me how long they were battling already? Around Austria that's pretty long. Max could have been mean and Lando would have been lured into the gravel trap. Lando's complaining was because he didn't really believe he could do it, but he somehow wanted to save face with Zak hyping him up all the time plus the pressure from Oscar. It's not easy being in his position and unfortunately the one time Max actually drove pretty fair and mature, you still manage to blame him for moving one meter to the right or left over a distance of 30 meters. It has definitely not been analysed properly by the international stream. They were talking out of their asses because I had to go back multiple times to make up my mind.
Hülkenberg did a pretty good job this race as well
Lando divebombing Max, meanwhile Max moving under braking= box office.
This is the first time I disagree with you my guy. Lando wasn’t wrong
Max was and always has been the problem, he can't take being beaten.
Yep. What really sold it for me was Max blocking Lando AFTER the collision when Max's blowout was slowing him more than Lando's. Lando didn't realize he had damage yet, and everywhere he went, Max blocked him.
Max is at fault, I'm not disputing that, BUT, I think it's been blow out of proportion with how big it is "NORRIS & VERSTAPPEN FRIENDSHIP OVER", "NORRIS AND VERSTAPPEN HIT THEIR BREAKING POINT". Watch the replay from the overhead shot, not the TV shot, but there's one that's from the helicopter I think. Max isn't moving under braking, he's chosen his line, which is to slowly squeeze Norris so he gets no room to move, and there's the slightest bit of wheel to wheel contact, which honestly, I'm pissed at Pirelli because under that force, if it's just wheel to wheel contact, no floor cutting the tyre, that's pretty bad that the tyres can fall apart like that. If it had been 2016 Austria, Rosberg vs Hamilton kind of contact, then maybe, but there isn't anything overly wrong with the incident.
(Totally get the title btw, not a shot at you, just at the wider F1 fandom. And tbf, my comment is a copy-paste, I ain't got time to rewrite 20 comments lol)
For the first time ever I'm doubting your judgement
Criticize lando all you like.....oscar is consistently worse.
So whatever lando isnt...your boy oscar is even less.
Lando is an elite driver and a world champion in the making. Oscar is a very good driver.
Bro, this is why you shouldn’t jump on a ladder just after a race - your take on this is pretty ridiculous
If anybody wants to say Max moved under "breaking," you're 100% wrong. When y'all spell the word right, then maybe we can have a conversation.
I just thought they meant he moved under Lando's breaking rear wheel...
It’s amazing how ppl jump through mental hoops to defend Max’s driving
Hard racing, there was a space for Norris, he wasn't pushed over the White line. It was more of a racing incident
It is amazing how people jump trough metal hoops to blame it all on Max.
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Wtf r u yapping about theres no wayy it wasnt max fault and u think the 10sec penalty was debatable wtff i have been watching every one of your vids wtff is thiss
Christian Horner had the spiciest comment😂. Blamed Lando for attacking Max ( he didn't comment on the incident itself, but on the numerous attempts lando fivebombed and track limits) and mocked Russell for "inheriting" the win, like he had to do nothing to get there and they just handed Merc a win as mercy.
He's insufferable I swear. I'm just happy to see the madness ensue, not gonna lie
Thats just his professional opinion, defending Max. It's not real, and if he means it I wonder what his reasons are.
He can count his blessings that FIA let that unsafe release slide.I swear RB get away with just about anything just so they can go motor racing.
i love how the subitises spelt Verstappen not just wrong but differently every time
I felt like climbing on a ladder THEN jumping off of it while watching that “argy-bargy.” 😂
Max was way out of line in all that moving under breaking he deserved the penalty he got
Max pushed him left before turn in. Clear as day.
Max did cause that collision. I’m not biased in any way. I think this showed a panicking Max for a change, which is a good sign
I don’t think Oscar would have wanted his first win to happen like that
@ Antearter
If he is a true alpha winner he wouldn't loose much sleep over it. Your sentiment is for people who think you can be the best of the best without doing what ever it takes to achieve that goal.
@@afcansf5996absolutely. win every is win, ut really diesnt matter as lung as its fair
You didn't watch the interview did you, he wanted it so badly he was kicking himself for messing up qualifying
@@hueykratos and if he qualified better then the race would have been completely different…
@@hueykratos FIA messed his quali he was not outside track limits IMO , back wheel was touching blue and white line.
Laws usually love your takes but this was on max he had his elbows out too hard and it cost both of them
It's official, LawVS posts faster than FP1Will... congratulations Law 🎉
He actually didn’t post first
@@paullusky1234 Lol 😂 damn my FYP lied to me...
Does Norris’s 5 second time penalty go to Silverstone since he didn’t serve it here?
The hardest fight that Lando will face this season, is getting an apology from Max. A Verstappen takes no prisoners when it comes to winning. All kidding aside, l hope they can talk this out.
Charles got an apology from Max in Vegas last year. Seb got it in China in 2018.
So it's not that hard 🤷🏼♀️.
People making decisions now is silly, wait for the telemetry.
I’m just very happy KMAG got some points.
Red bull team radio was hilarious. They were complaining of the exact same aggressive driving Max did before the car would just F off into the sunset lol.
And people where complaining about Max at that point so why would it be different now?
@@JointVW It shouldn't be different. Its just ironically funny the complaints were coming from the red bull team this time.
@@JointVWit’s not different Max was still doing the same things he used to do😂 that’s why people are calling him out for it 😂
They were right to complain. Lando was being a crybaby. If he would have mixed it up a little more instead of staying right behind Max all the time then he would have had ample speed to pass him. Max had him on initial acceleration every single time and he braked extra where he could so he had battery to fight with. This was a very poor showing from Lando.
@@Roguescienceguy Both teams were being crybabies to say otherwise is just silly. I will agree lando is making too many mistakes but the Max/Lando fight this season is very entertaining. Lando will not be world champion, Max will be, but Mclaren might be able to pull off the constructors is oscar remains consistent and checo continues with his streak. It will be interesting to see how silverstone will turn out with all the new upgrades coming.
Lando needed to go for it, otherwise nobody will give him space in the future
All the 14 year olds voting for Lando
Max will be best friends with you so long as you are slower than him
Um max turning left in a braking zone on a right hand turn should be the give away it was max that took both of them out.
You are falling off law.
He was already heading a bit more left before the braking zone. From wat i could see he didn't turn his steering wheel to the left in the braking zone.
No, Max didn't take out both of them. He still got the points for being 5th. This guy can't drive clean when being preasured. He just took out Lando, he didn't take out himself
When I said took them both out I meant out of the contention for the win.
@@Selendeki you comment sounds like projection. Why would you assume i didn’t?
@@Selendeki you know what they say about assuming? You make an ass out of yourself. Not everyone has to agree with our opinions.
They would not have crashed if MV had given the place after passing off the track.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Interesting to see how one incident happens and everyone thinks they are enemies
He (Lando) literally said that if Max doesn't apologize he will lose a ton of respect for Max.
@@scotturbanski740 The only one who cares is Lando. If that is what it takes to "lose respect" then he never had respect in the first place. We've been saying for weeks that it's one thing to get close to Max, it's another to take him over. Lando is too used to driving in carebear town - but now he has to drive to win and he has to learn. Do you think Hamilton won't make it hard on Lando? I think Max and Hamilton are both very skilled defenders.
@@scotturbanski740 lando is such an entitled brat 😂😂
The austrian gp has been the best of all the races this seasons so far
Love how that "maturity" that came after max's first championship is shining brightly now that he's not in the dominant car and has some legitimate challengers
Noticed that too lmao, the old Max is coming back
So, I'm neither a massive max supporter. nor a massive land supporter
I maintain max has a worse reputation than he really deserves, cosideringn how good certain former 7 time world champions struggle to race clean when battling
I have staunchly defended max multiple times for some of his combat in the 2021 season, but today i think max wass at fault and deserves a harsher penalty than he got today
In the most basic of terms, max caused a collision that ended another car's race today (ant davidsons analysis sums it up entirely)
He moved 3 separate times under breaking when lando tried to get passed, as well as retaining the position off track after Lando had completed the move (Austria GP 2019 - made norris overtake legal) - it should have been ended there - and max should have been given the black and white flag for dangerous driving if he didn't hand the place back.
This wasnt a punt or crashtappen striking again, asnd honestly looked like an attempt at squeezing lando out done badly - but max did destroy another cars race, and there has to be a deterrent for driving this way - world champ or not - and most of all he needs to accept some responsibility for it - his post trace interviews he immediately went on the defence despite not having watched it back - which when you turn out ot be wrong doesnt look good
Just to stress with Lando whilst there were elbows out - lando didnt actually do a lot wrong in the situation, max was responsible
Why the numpty stewards took 10 minutes to announce Landos track limits penalty of 5 seconds is ridiculous. With that in mind Max wouldn’t have been bothered about coming second with a 5 second buffer and few laps remaining.
I'll respond to that by saying the whole track limits thing is stupid entirely. At all tracks they need to put a bit of gravel to slow you down if you go way off and then if you don't hit that then you're good.
@@scotturbanski740Agree. Track limits is frustrating and gravel would quickly stop them.
Just hard racing..... when competitiveness kick in, who the hell is going to be polite? That is not making the race boring 👍
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Max's penalty was correct. Lando held his line while Max tried to move under breaking for the 3rd time and caused the collission.
What about the previous incidents on previous laps where Max was moving under braking? or after the collision where max was weaving all over the road to continue to block Norris even though max had damage (Lando's manifested a few seconds later)? Max was driving dirty for like 15 minutes leading up to that. I re-watched and counted at least 4 penalties for Max. Idgaf about either of the drivers, but this inconsistent application of the rules whenever it involves the wonderkind is just... frustrating.
I say you should trademark “Get Up The Ladder” and Channel name? Love the content!
What the stewards were saying, is that before the entry of the corner, Max turned left and hit lando before even turning into the corner causing the punctures, lando had no where to go and max caused the collision, then forced lando off
Does lando have a grid drop for his unsevered penalty
verstapen weaving and landos Kamikazi dives a great combination
You can’t weave in the braking zone. Max more at fault
@@Kermit-The-Smaugno he wasn't. He was trailing to one side to make the track as narrow as possible. Masterclass defending
Agree with you 100%
I'm a Verstappen fan, but this was a horrific performance going back to the bad "crashstappen" days... It was immature and just plain dumb. Norris basically got caught in a temper tantrum because he had the faster car...
I was wondering when Lando and Max were going to have their Lewis/Nico Spain 2016 moment and here it is. We could all see it coming.
People wanted a real fight and now that it happened many are moaning. Personally I have no issues with it, when you challenge the big dog for a fight, than you better be prepared for anything. Also Verstappen hardly has been the only champion in history who does whatever it takes. Besides extreme situations; if you want to be the champ, you better put your big boy pants on. Which was a lesson Lando had to learn the hard way; though I think their friendship will be fine. Of course the always soy and uber biased English media are loosing their marbles, and most likely will continue to do so for some time; but the rest of the world will move on pretty quickly. Though I'm looking forward towards the English and Dutch Grand Prix' s.
The soy ruins their hormones 😂
@@Selendekithis is deserves delusional comment of the day 😂
The friendship cant handle anymore of these situations but if this year turns in 2021 all over again in terms of max’s driving then expect this relationship to be over. It’s easy to be friends when you’re not competing against each other another thing entirely when you do.
You call it fair driving if somone drives you off the track? So if you don't want that, you're going to bump into the other car, possibly damaging your own car and getting a penalty? Bruh, this is not NASCAR, this is F1 we are talking about. This was not the hard racing people want to see. This was just dirty defending. Plain ass dirty, and Max got away way to easy with it. 10 sec is a joke for causing a dricer a dnf, especially a driver that was directly racing you. Should be 5 to 10 place penalty. I hope the FIA will look more into this. Max basically is treating his opponents like he is driving StockCar
@@biljancanin Ah, another bitter anti Max comment from you. I see you are on a mission. Carry on bitter man, carry on...
Still has that 'my position over your safety' approach of The Michael.
Take away the dodgy car and this is what you get. And it's very telling that all three podium finishers in the cool down room laughed at how Max drove Norris off the track, obviously they all felt that is to be expected. Max is a real sportsman when he's *30 seconds* up the road with a *rocketship* car, totally classless when he isn't.
I don’t think the 10s penalty was too much since they have decided to have harsher penalties this season. If I remember correctly this was requested by the drivers. There has been a couple other ones already where the penalties felt harsh this season. Max’s defending was ugly so he gets 10s, that is f1 2024.
Verstappen was constantly moving under braking. Should have been penalised
Love your content mate but this was definitely rushed 😅
The main argument is simply that Verstappen turned and defended under braking. He definitely saw Norris coming in from the outside yet decided to make a last second move.
I'd say it was almost entirely Verstappen's fault. At the end of the day it was hard racing and I'm totally in for it!
I was almost in tears seeing that Hulk managed to fend off Perez in the end of the race. Finishing in P6 and Kev in P8 will be quickly forgotten by all except Haas fans which is a shame :/
Seriously, thats amazing of them! Congrats! (I can't read any reactions back for some reason though).
not a haas fan but i was still very excited for them, i think when you say that everyone will forget about it you underestimate how much people enjoy cheering for underdogs
Bro verstappen definitely moved left, how is it not his fault?
If Max didn’t make the move to defend the inside it would be 50/50.
That was 100% Crashstapens fault.
This was bound to happen so it was never about “what!!!!” But more about when????
Good to see vintage Max again. Aggressive raging racing.
21' 21' 21' now the fruition.
Oscar is a future WDC IMO
The collision is absolutely Max´s fault and I cannot see how anyone would argue otherwise. Max just literally moved into Lando while they were alongside. Everything before is the cause (aka what caused Max to lose his calm and go back to his typical antics from his rookie years, that is), and those moves were just overambitious and honestly just bad from Lando´s part, but the lap of the actual collision, Lando did nothing wrong, just normal racing maneuvering. Max just decided to go where Lando was and crashed into him, there is no argument to defend Max for the collision.
The part Lando is to blame for is in the incident is another dive bomb. But i agree that Max had more blame but at most a 60/40 and more likely 55/45
@@JointVW He was on the outside. He broke later than Max because he would have a wider line as he is on the outside obviously. It wasnt a divebomb lol. Literally that was the only acceptable overtake attempt Lando had of all of them, Its just Max had a mental boom from the previous ones.