It is easy to confuse the two cities named Novgorod. The city of Vladimir is half way between Moscow and Nizhniy Novgorod. The Novgorod mentioned in all other instances in this video is Velikiy Novgorod.
Velikiy Novgorod is the oldest city which was the seat of power for several Russian rulers including Alexander Nevsky who beat the Swedes and the Teutonic Knights. Nizhny Novgorod on the river Volga was founded an oupost of Moscovite power and served as the rallying point for the Second Peoples' Militia led by Prince Pozharsky and Kuzma Minin which defeated the Poles in 1612 during the Times of Trouble.
I know these are proper names but they would be so much easier to remember for English speakers if their pre-names were translated instead of transliterated into what seems like gibberish for Anglophones
*It is easy to confuse the two cities named Novgorod* Yeah but things aren't that easy. There were also Novgorod Severskiy ("Novgorod of Severian land") and Novgorodok (Little New Town, nowadays Novogrudok in Belarus), also the city of Zviagel was renamed to Novograd-Volynski in 18the century. In modern folk-history there are even some speculations that "instead of Velikiy Novgorod the author of the Primal Chronicle meant Novgorod Severskiy" etc.
I remember reading somewhere that Catherine the Great, who was not Romanov by birth but merely married into the family, nonetheless had some kind of Rurikid ancestry.
She was do you know how she got revenge for the killing of her husband Ihor/Igor,?. She tied fire cinders to birds feet and flew them to enemies being the Drevlians, . At the time everything was made from wood, and roof tops were made from straw,?. The red hot fire cinders burnt down the enemies kingdom over night giving her the victory.
@@dralodolitle5420 Not only that, she had actually requested that each household would give her a pigeon form under their roof as a symbolic tax. So that the fire starts in each house.
Great tree but here are some mistakes: 1) 1:42 he conquered the city or soon to be city (it was formed as a merger of 5 settlements) 2) 2:54 Moscow most likely didn't exist at that time as it was 1st mentioned at 1147 3) 5:18 he attempted to unify/reform pagan religion but failed at it and decided to adopt an established one. His choice was purely political (as it would make him a likely ally of Byzantines but also grant control over church). But the legend is often resided like that: news went around that he was looking for new religion, so messengers came to his court. He listened to muslims but let them go as drinking was forbidden. Then jews (from Hazaria not Israel) and he asked them about their home if god has abandoned them (as Hazaria was defeated in 969. Next were catholics and he asked them who held power in land monarch or Pope. They said Pope and he let them go. Unsatisfied with ambassador he launched his own to learn about foreign religion and it went like video describes it. 4) 10:52 It's usually called tributary but ok 5) 14:26 that coat of arms was later adopted but ok 6) 24:15 and was also considered mentally ill
except it's a myth. were there major battles that broke the golden horde's(blue horde's) back - yes, was it this one big battle on this specific spot - probably not. they can't even find the specific field to this day.
12:40 Vladimir is between Moscow and *Nizhni* Novgorod, a different place located a thousand miles away from Novgorod, a fortress and the easternmost outpost of the principality built on the Volga only by 1221 in order to control the newly annexed Mordovia and tax the trade traffic on the river; literally Lower Newtown. Back in 1999, the government finally changed the original Novgorod’s name to Velikiy Novgorod, Great Newtown, thus ending this centuries-old confusion. Even Russians mix them up frequently, although the locals never see any links between the two and refer to their city simply as Nizhni or colloquially Nino. UPD the very Moscow as a real city wasn’t a thing at the time yet
@@dralodolitle5420 yea,, ukarians have russian+polish+turcic roots, they look almost same, you never find a difference before you ask one. ethnic relatives
@@1227-z5w Ethnic make up is completely different to Russian. Its actually the Russian Princes that Married Monghol, Turkic, Crimean princesses from the East if you follow history you will know this. This is what made Moscow. Ukrainian Rus, Halych and Volyhan were more intermarried with Poles, Hungarians etc.But you are right to this day and age we are all now mixed, there is no getting away from it the diversity is beautiful.
@@1227-z5w But you need to remember that the Western Early Rus branch is Ukrainian, which existed well before the Eastern which makes modern Russians as the family tree explains. I know back then would have been known as Red Rus/ Ruthenian as Ukrainians as the term Ukrainian was not used. Black and White Rus would be modern Eatern Russians which are Moksha/, who have far more Asian ethnic roots Im talking back then btw not now as we are all now pretty much mixed. I will agree with you that now many Ukrainians are darker which will be to do with Hungarian, Romanian, Polish/ and Lithuanian and Slovak, German etc etc. Russian, Mongol , Tartar, etc etc but we all as neighbours now have a little of everything.
Will you eventually make a video covering Bohemian/Czech monarchs? I feel like they are probably the last European nation that hasnt been covered yet. And I know you did the Habsburg family tree, which covers them partially, but still, thats only since 1526, while Bohemian monarchy dates at least to the 9th century. I think Bohemia should get its own dedicated video.
This video is made to perfection. I always had a passion for learning Eastern European history and I think this is another amazing eastern country to talk about. Good job Matt.
Dynasty of Rurykids ruled 862-1598 and 1606-1610 and Vasyliy 4 Shuyskiy is a last member of the dynasty of Rurykids in russian throne, because descendant of Andrey of Suzdal and Vasyliy Kirdiapa who belong to Suzdal branch of Rurykids. And dynasty of Rurykids in the male line still exists!
3:35 "She 'subjugated' the tribe that had killed her husband,..." "Subjugated" is an understatement. How she 'subjugated' the Drevlian tribe is a story that leads to legends. Let me just say that you do NOT wanna cross St. Olga.
Didn't she have the tribe in question essentially burned alive after locking them in a building? Oh yeah & it was said to have been a "heavenly fire" that started the arson.
That murderou Olga burn my city Korosten( Iskorosten). I born from ashes and was growing up on Drevlianska street in Korosten. Christianity always made saint from murderou.
Some Rus leaders with their real, Old Swedish and Old West Norse, names: Rurik (Rörik) - (first Rus king) Sineus (Signjot) and Truvor (Torvard) - (Ruriks brothers) Oleg (Helge) - (Kievan ruler after Rurik) Igor (Ingvar) - (Ruriks son) Saint Olga (Helga) - (Saint and ruler of Kiev) Vladimir the Great (Valdemar) - (Prince of Novgorod and Kiev who fled home to Sweden, asembeled a Viking Army and reconquered Novgorod from his brother) Yaroslav the Wise (Jarizleifr Valdamarsson) - (first Christian Prince of Kiev) Askold (Hǫskuldr) - (prince of Kiev and founder of the first Vikings' state in the Dnieper basin)
@@ded_omlt4934 True👍 There was a lot of intermarrying between the local ethnic groups (Slavs and Finns) and the small amount of ”Vikings” that lived in Kievan Rus (including Rurik and his people). Sooner or later these Norse Vikings mixed with the local slavs and finns and most of the descendents of the Norse ended up being more or less normal slavs/finns with normal, local names. This include the Rurik Dynasti who ended up being more or less normal Russian slavs. So these people having slavic names and culture is not suprising.
Prior to Svjatoslav, yes, but after, all names were Slavic (or Greek after Christianization). Yaroslav and Vladimir are Slavic. You may find them both in Western and South Slavic countries. There can be equivalents though German, Baltic and Slavic tribes have had the same Indo-European origin after all.
This may be a controversial one, but here's an idea for a future family tree video: The Westboro Baptist Church family tree. Most of the "church" is made up of just one family (the Phelps family). You could also talk about in a video in that family tree about some ex-members of Westboro and why they left the church (like Nathan Phelps and Megan Phelps-Roper). Just a little warning: It's going to be a very wide family tree. Westboro members have a LOT of children. Fred Phelps had 13 children.
While it's a common belief that Sviatopolk killed Boris and Gleb, some historians claim it was actually Yaroslav's doing. Yaroslav's daughter Anna brought a Gospel in Church Slavonic to France which became the Gospel that French kings used to swear their oath. There is a legend that over time the French forgot its origins and started to believe it was writer in mystic angelic language until Peter the Great visited France in the XVIII century and read it.
Actualy Sviatopolk didn't rebelled against his father (Vladimir the Great), he wasn't even born at that time. And because Vladimir took his brother's wife it's possible that Yaropolk was his father. Also some sources independent from kievan rulers (Icelandic saga) point out that it was Yaroslav the Wise who ordered his brothers (Boris and Gleb) assassination by icelandic mercenaries.
Correction: Svyatopolk was the OLDER brother of Boris and Gleb, and the guys were 14 and 16 years old at the time of their death. They weren't babies, but they were still very young, and that's why Svyatopolk became the Accursed - he murdered not only his brothers but children
Most of all Ruric was Hrorekr of Uteland, who later ruled in Rustringen, from where "lyudi rustii" of early Russian Cronicles, finelly came to Novgorod.
@@radziwill7193 to be fair, anything before 1000 ce in some parts of the world is unknown. We don’t even know if Ragnar is a real person or not. After all, most of the sagas that were wet in about that time were completed centuries after the fact
@@radziwill7193 I've looked it up. He was either Rurik's tribesman or brother of his wife. But his nickname is unclear as language changed in 10 centuries and chronicles were compiled after christianization. There is also a legend that he had been predicted to die by his horse. Only to die of a snake bite (who lived in the horse's remains).
"he wasn't a Swede, he was a Rus". Yes true. Becuse no one was Swedish. Rus, probably comes from Roslagen in east Uppland in modern Sweden so he comes from "Sweden"
Sweden as a kingdom didn't exist yet, and it still had two main peoples, the Svers and the Geats. The country is named after the Svers, as is the Swedish name of the country, Sverige.
@@greninjamastergabe6452 *Svear, in weather reports you can still hear them say Svealand, which includes Dalarna, Uppland, Värmland, Närke, Västmanland and Södermanland (Sörmland).
Right. Although it's hard to draw a clear line of continuity from one to other, much like there's dispute over who can claim to be the Kievan Rus' "successor". The Rus definitely had elements of what we would today classify as Swedish culture, but probably didn't identify as Swedish themselves.
Genetic studies of the descendants of princely families descended from Rurik:Golitsins, Starodubsky, Pozharsky and others; showed that their haplotype The Y chromosome originates from the territory of Sweden, the present-day location of Uppsala.
It was mentioned, that Mstislav married a Swedish princess. We could also mention, that their daughters (with the Nordic names Ingeborg and Malmfrid) were married into Nordic royalty. Malmfrid was married twice, first to a Norwegian king and then to a Danish. Ingeborg was married to the first duke of Schleswig, and their son, who was born a week after the murder of his father, and who was named after his great-grandfather Vladimir Monomach, became king Valdemar 1st of Denmark.
There is a literal error: One of Vladimir II’s son is YaropoLk (nor Yaropok) II. Also, it’s interesting to mention, that his brother Yuri Longarm (and also one of the sons of Vladimir II Momomakh)-is famous because it was his time, when Moscow’s name appeared for the first time. Of course, there were people living there before, but it’s because of him Moscow chose its official establishment date as 1147. And just in case I say, that he didn’t have long arms lol, and Dolgoruky means “far-reaching”, and it’s the best description of his politics.
Great video! I love when you cover this side of Europe. One correction I would like to add is that obviously neither Ivan III nor IV -conquered- reunited all of the original Rus' because large parts of it were under the Polish or Lithuanian rule, including Kyiv/Kiev itself. The Grand Duchy of Lithuania was in many ways a succesor-state of Rus'; Ruthenian (Ruski) was its main official language, the Orthodox Rus elites (including a number of the Rurikid lines) played an important role in the realm and some Lithuanians, even members of the Giedyminid dynasty were asimilating with their culture (that is until the Polish culture gradualy started to have greater influence). A good ilustration of that is the great battle of Orsha in 1514, where the Lithuanian and Polish forces under the Grand Hetman of Lithuania Konstanty Ostrogski defeated the Muscovites, stopping them from reuniting some more Rus lands. This event is celebrated today by many Ukrainians and Belarusians and Ostrogski himself was not only an Orthodox Ruthenian but also a Rurikid prince!
@@serbianstallion8321 Hopefully they won't. I've seen people claiming that modern Lithuanians aren't the "real ones" in the historical sense and I understand why this pisses them off. I want to stress that I didn't mean it that way. I also have seen some Lithuanians being chill despite all that, acknowledging the mixed character of the Grand Duchy and being supportive of Belarusians viewing the same shared legacy as the base of their national identity.
@@radziwill7193 You mean the whole term "Kievan Rus", right? I'm certain that Rus' (with the soft s - Русь, Ruś whichever spelling you prefer, Latinized as Ruthenia) was a name of land (or lands) for much longer.
@@Artur_M. In fact, Rus (Ros) was called by foreigners. Rus as the name of the state appeared with the title "Tsar of All Rus" after copying from "Patriarch of All Rus." by the way, the modern name Russia is also a Latinized name from the Romans.
the Mandate of Heaven would not allow the restoration of a fallen dynasty. So it's whoever takes the throne next (which the way things are going will be the Xi Emperors soon)
Darth Annoying god I hope so. China needs another Han Dynasty or Tang Dynasty. The house of Liu might not be able to come back in to power but China sure as hell could use a family like them
Igor (Ingvar) Rurikovich (Røriksen), of Kiev 878-945 BIRTH ABT. 878 • Novgorod the Great, Novgorod, Novgorod Land DEATH 945 • Korosten, Kievan Rus 28th great-grandfather
Some future video ideas: 1. Bohemian/Czech Monarchs (ending with the first Habsburg, Ferdinand I, as you have a Habsburg video already.) 2. Who would be Emperor of Mexico today? 3. Who would be monarch of Central/South American countries if they declared independence from Spain and became monarchies? (Might be difficult) 4. Any other updates of older videos (I’ve noticed your video quality has improved greatly over the last 2 years. Credit to you.) :)
they did one on who would be Aztec Emperor already. Which if you ask me is the more legitimate claimant to Mexico than either post-Independance Emperors.
You should make a video about who will be king of Mexico. Some people want a descendant from Agustin I, others want a relative from Maximilian I. However, when Mexico became an independent country, it's crown was offered to Ferdinand VII's brothers.
@Heberth R. I want a monarchy for Mexico, I'd like an Habsburg king, however I'd like either Maximilian II (Agustin I's greatgreatgrandson) as king of Mexico.
Haven't watched the whole video so it might have been mentioned but a Rurikid princess (Anna of Kiev) married Henry I of France so is the ancestress of a hell of a lot of European royalty!
Nothing is said about the intrigues of the nobility at court and the poisoning of many members of Ivan's family. About the murder of his son, this is just a rumor that has no reliable facts. But there are facts that all members of the royal family found an abnormal amount of arsenic in their bones. And there was a change of mood for a reason. Before that, Ivan had become seriously ill and was near death. Then the nobility tried to put on the throne instead of his son and heir, a cousin who was quiet and who was expected to be easily controlled. Therefore, when Ivan recovered, he abdicated the throne, and when he gained power, he began to persecute noble princes. He initially suspected them of poisoning his mother, his beloved wife, and now when they openly tried to kill his son. while he was lying ill. After that, he began to act.
@@sael52 No, it's not. Russia stoled this name. Moskow state was named Moskowia until 1721. And in medieval chronicles "Rus'" is the name of Kiev and lands around it. Even in XIX Ukrainians were named "rusyny". But Moskow conquered Ukraine in XVII-XVIII centeries and forbade Ukrainians from using this name
@@user-histor as far as i know you guys were part of russia until bolsheviks takeover. are you saying that before the bolshevics russia started call part of it's territory ukraine?
@@sael52 Russian authorities called Ukraine mainly "Malorosya" (Little Russia) in the XVIII-XIX centuries. We have lost our state in the end of XVIII, but we have our history. It's complicated and not well known for foreigners, especially not our neighborhoods. And Russia wanted it to be so.
Just discovered this channel and love it! Just ordered the chart (very reasonably priced). BTW, my friend would love to see one on the history of Buddhism.
ee-VAHN actually. Most names in the video are Anglicised, the actual pronunciation in Russian is often different. And even more different in Ukrainian and Belarusian.
@@imokin86 Exactly this - it's a name familiar enough to English speakers that it has a standard Anglicized form, and pronouncing it in Russian the entire time would be sort of strange
@@JackRackam by the way, what do you think, if a native speaker of Russian presents a video on the same topic in English, should they stick to how these names typically sound in English? That is, saying vlAdimir and rOmanov, not vladEEmir and romAHnov. What would sound more natural?
@@imokin86 Huh, that's a really interesting question. I think it would definitely make you sound more like a native English speaker, although if it were the case of your own name or a specific other person's, I could see someone wanting to go by their name as it's pronounced in Russia
Probably some interesting detail is that for most of the described period, the inheritance there worked somewhat differently from the european ways, with the eldest male inheriting (so if a person dies, his brother inherits rather than his children). TBH it was a bit of mix of both, leading to conflicts each generation.
I dont know if you noticed by now or not, but Vasily III has the exact same years of his reign as Ivan III the Great, which seems to be incorrect because of the gap between Vasily III’s reign and Ivan the Terrible.
It would be interesting if you showed the Serbian dynasty as continued from the Vukanovic dynasty, which itself descended from the Vojislavjevic dynasty. It is basically the same dynasty but the name changed every time a eponymous head founded it's own cadet branch. The Nemanjic dynasty was created by Stefan Nemanja, who was the cadet of the Vukanovic main branch at that time. And the Vukanovic dynasty from the Vojislavjevic as well, etc...
@@mykelas531 everybody calling it moscow while speaking in english, because its in english. but for some reason, while speaking in english, everybody calling Kyiv Kiev (in russian)
The Russian Newsweek tested the first two Rurikid princes. The first one was Prince Dmitri Mikhailovich Shahovskoi of Paris, France, the prominent Professor at the Russian Orthodox Institute, who made the 1st Y-DNA test in the Rurikid Dynasty (at the end of 2006). Unexpectedly, he was found to belong to the genetic haplogroup N1c1 - the so-called “Finno-Ugrian”. It was found that Rurik was of Varangian origin (a sub-branch in the N1c1 genetic haplogroup). The haplogroup is most common among Finns. Quite rare among Swedes (unless they have some Finnic ancestors which was not so commong during Viking era). During the Viking/Varangian times the Baltic-Finnic tribes inhabited much larger areas than today ( for eg.present day Latvia and Sweden) and places like Gotland.
@Tom Fury You don't seem to be very well informed about the Viking age history in the Baltics. Even Widsith, Exeter Book mentions Caelic Rex Fennicum (Caleva King of Finns)...and there is lot more from Al Idrisi and Sagas if ones cares to look. Caesar ruled the Greeks and Caelic the Finns, Hagena the Rugians and Heoden the Gloms. Witta ruled the
@Tom Fury Calling Baltic-Finnic tribes "uncivilized" would be quite ignorant and plain wrong. According to archeological evidence, the Balto Finns were on the same level in terms of technology as their Scandinavian, Baltic and later Slavic neighbours. And according to an increase in finds from the 500s to 800s, it is believed that they formed into their own local chiefdoms, not too different from for example Scandinavian petty kingdoms led by regional chiefs/kings before they unified into their own kingdoms. There is also evidence, at least in Finland, that from the 800s onwards, the Finnish tribes had a cultural and societal set back. Less metal, jewelry and other "sophisticated" item finds from this time indicate a loss in population, trade and overall structure in society. And the Finnish tribes did not fully recover from this set back leaving them as easy pickings for the coming centuries.
@Tom Fury If you mean a unified state or medieval kingdom, then sure. But they most definitely had chiefdoms and semi-states in place with even evidence of an early taxation/tributary systems. Also for example the net of hillforts covering the supposed Tavastian heartlands and protecting a pretty major and vital trade route for Finland, the Oxen Road of Tavastia, would suggest some sort of centralization and cooperation. But I don't see a reason to call them primitive and uncivilized just on the basis that they did not form into a united kingdom that carved itself a succesful history that is known by many like for example Sweden did. And they did repell practically all invasion attempts by their neighbours for centuries, only being subjugated when their neighbours got the support and resources of the European Christian world to fight against the "evil pagans". Must have been doing something right, eh?
@Tom Fury Well, Finland already had a Christian community for over 100 years before the first Swedish crusade. If Russia and Sweden did not colonize Finland for example and things played out without outside influence, Christianity probably would have overtaken the local religion and a unified Finnish state could have been possible. But this is just one possibility and way to speculate.
"Kiev" is the English exonym for Kiev, Київ (Kyiv) is the Ukrainian and Russian spelling, but we don't use that, in the same way that we don't call Austria "Österreich", Copenhagen "København" or Grozny "Соьлжа-ГӀала" (Sölƶa-Ġala). While it would be great to speak all the languages of the world and be able to use every native name for everywhere, life's too short and exonyms are both easier and fun to have.
Exactly. I love Ukraine and Ukrainians, but with all due respect, I’m spelling it “Kiev.” That’s how I was taught as a child and I’ll continue to do it.
Kiev is historically Russian since no Ukrainians lived in Kiev until very 20th century. THey moved to Kiev after Russian Revolution and establishing of Ukrainian Soviet Republic.
@@Zach-mw5so And you're not wrong. Name Kiev comes from Old Russian character named Kij and has nothing to do with modern Ukrainian pronounciation. So do not listen to them
I think some of you need to go back and look at the family tree and realise who come from who,?, also Russians came much later on after King Danilo of Ruthenia, Moscow wasn't even built at the time if when Ruthenia was ruling, was a good 1.500 years prior. You can try spin things all you want but will never except that Ruthenian ppl are your roots and that modern Russians descend from Ruthenian ppl, ie modern Ukrainians, the proof is in the video who was first,????. KIEV is Russian terminology for KYIV in Ukrainian.
All of you are correct and wrong at the same time. In Primary Chronicle the name of the city is Кыѥвъ - Kyev. Right in the middle. Also, there were no Russians or Ukrainians at that time. By the time of Vladimir the Great the separate East Slavic tribes only start forging in to solid Rusin identity. Belarusians, Ukrainians and Russians are equal descendants of that nation.
@@алексгай-я5й Wrong. Learn your own history. Read some more. Read Byzantine sources, Scandinavian and European sources. Nowhere and I mean nowhere there is term Kievan Rus until the XIX century and even then only in reference to a time period when Kiev was a main seed of the Rus not as a State, but as a collection of principalities. The same way the Vladimir Rus and Vladimir-Suzdal Rus was referenced. And later Moscow and all Rus. Please do not argue about you have no friggin idea about. I beg you. Read the sources and then get back to me. Cause some of us have actually spent time learning.
@@Takhor86 Partially right you are. You see, peoples of Nordic tribes aka vikings settled in Novgorod first, then expanded the rule to Kiev and made it the capital. So it actually was the Kievan Rus even despite the term really wasn't there yet. Also the guy is totally right saying it is indeed a state name.
@@НикитаРозвод Thank you for your reply. Now, please provide a link to any document Russian, Ukrainian or otherwise where there is a mention of such state. Thank you in advance.
Jeez.... With the bent over trees and tying him to them and letting them go... And that's a pretty cool story how Vladimir chose which religion to follow.
term "Kievan rus'" was created in Russia in 19th century, to describe period of time while kiev was capital. Author already said in the begining, that this is only a historical term, not an actual name of the state.
Ok, about the last Ivan, the Terrible. He became Grand Prince when was a 5-year old child, and instead of him the true ruler was his mother's family - Glynskyie; later, there was an palace troubles, when Trubetskie tried to replace Glynskyie and kill his mother. Because of that, Ivan the terrible during beginning of his reign already was paranoid and thought, that most of his courtiers from boyarskaya duma are traitors (and yes, that was the truth). But at early days he had some people, that he had seen as loyal, and they were actually talented - Prince Kurbsckyi (he wasn't a blood Prince, no, but Tsar had a right to make any person even the Prince) ; he really believed and loved his first wife - Anastasia (Zhakharina-Koshkina-Yurieva, or just Romanova). Also his tutor - monk Silvester, and his minister Adashev. They were the ones, who inspired most of his reforms and helped him. But Silvester died in 1555, Adashev suffered from plots, and Anastasia died in 1564. That resulted a great mental break, and tsar was sured that she was killed by boyar plot. He "divorsed" Russia and taken a half to single rule, and a half left to Nikita Romanov. His territory called "Oprichnina", and other territory - " Oprichnina ". And that actually was, formally, a lawful act, expect for the fact, that " Oprichnina " men's a part of family holding, that should go to the wife of the dead man. Yes, to the wife, it's not a mistake. He later had 6 more wives one after another, but their families or them were founded unfaithful, and Kurbskyi treasoned him and joined Polish service, corrupting some of army supplies with him. That resulted an extremely harsh measuresto reunite country, and during that days, from family of just a simple horse-riding warrior from little village behind Costroma town, to the position of the most trusted and powerful Tsar's advisor was rising future Tsar, Boris Godunov, who will start by assuming throne to himself Russian-like Game of Thrones, "Time of troubles". And yes, he really looks similar to one GoT person, who also used a plot to assume throne :)
FANTASTIC I love how you have described the Ruryk family tree. I shows the UKRAINIAN, branch and the modern Russian branch to a tee. Many should watch this as many are confused and don't know the truth. Ruthenian Rus is now Ukraine and Moscow Rus modern Russia it cannot get any simpler, thanks very much for sharing. Also it clearly states that Ukrainians and Russians are not brothers but in fact cousins.
11:40 strange map, there was not point in history like this, because when there was Kingdom of Ruthenia, Kyiv and neighborhood was in small principalities or under Lithuania, and the reasoning is that Ruthenia is part of former Rus or it's descendant, but not two different things
@@dralodolitle5420 You are talking nonsense! The designation of Ruthena was introduced by the authorities of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, before that this territory had the name Chervonaya Rus (Red Russia), and the population called itself Rus.
@@vladimirnikolskiy That is also true correct,?, how am I talking nonsense,?, where Volodomire born,?, Exactly same place, I except that they traveled and integrated of vast territories, which gives modern RuSSia as our cousins nothing more. Polyani, Drevlyans, Severians and Kyivan Rus especially the western branch is Ukrainian blood. The East Rus is related to the Khanate, Tartar, Mongol.
@@dralodolitle5420 Why repeat obvious heresy? There was no Ukraine as well as no Ukrainian blood in those days, there were Russian principalities: Novgorod, Vladimir, Kiev, Galicia and so on. The concept of Malorossiya was introduced by the Tsars of Moscow in the 16th -17th century, the name Ruthenia and the renaming of Little Russians into Ukrainians appeared in Austria in the 19th century. You will never find a mention of Ukraine as a state until the 19th century, just as you will not be able to demonstrate a single coin with the text Ukraine on it!
@@vladimirnikolskiy Correct there was no Ukraine, but at the same time no RuSSia,??, correct,?, , what I’m trying to point out it who are the descendants of the branches of the blood line,?,. There was Grand Duchy of ?, so and so and so forth,??, correct,??, so I understand what you are saying. Grand Duchy,s pal so I don’t understand what you are saying,??, the true roots are modern Ukrainians,?, as they are your tru ancestry as they were born well long before,??, CORRECT,??
Some people believe that Rurik was no Scandinavian but Uralic, based on DNA tests on some of the earliest Rurikid dynasty members discovered. That would be pretty cool, it means that Hungarians and the Arpads are not the only Uralic people to rule over large groups of Indo-Europeans.
Yeah sure Rus' came from Sweden but they are somehow Ugric, geez you Finno-Ugrics are even crazier than us Serbs with your pseudo-science, simply they were Swedes that quickly got assimilated and became Slavic.
The Turks, on the contrary, are older than the Slavs. They existed even under the Indo-Europeans. The fact is that the Turks began to migrate later than the Indo-Europeans and therefore they almost retained their phenotype, culture and language.
@Fiamo Scarlette Ukraine (frontier) at that time was in the north-east, Kiev was the capital of the Russian land. Why did the Eastern Slavs start calling themselves Russians? Because this is the result of the work of the Orthodox Church in which Russian and Orthodox are synonymous. For the same reason, the Transcarpathian Croats were called Rusyns, because they are Orthodox. Although the Rurik people did not get to them.
@Fiamo Scarlette They were Russians they became Slavonized from the first generation. No Kyiv existen only Kiev and no Ukrainians lived in Kiev prior 20th century. Largest majority was Russian and largest minority was Jewish.
It was written Volodiměr. But yeah, it's sadly true that for most parts English using Russian spelling for Rus history, but I think this is the easiest choice for them and also like convention. And finally Kyiv is Kyiv
Olha? really? Change G -> H happened in later period in rutheninan language. In old Russian language (ancetor of all east slavic languages) there wasn't such fricative phoneme.
Denis Yarukhin, If u don’t know Ruthenia is actually Rus’ in Latin ) And Russia (from Ancient Greek) called itself so only after Petr The Great. And yeh Peter is Petr, and Daniel is Danylo and so on.
Olga's revenge story is a good one. the best part was that she sent doves with embers to burn the tribe's village. two more good revenge stories involves a woman cutting off her abusive husband's member and the tale of Elliot Rogers, who i feel bad for.
The Romanovs are also Ruriks !!! One of the official surnames of the last Emperors of Russia was Romanov. They chose that name because some of their ancestors bore that name. But they could also have chosen the name of Rurik, as they also descended fromthe Rurik dynasty. Wikipedia Rurik dynasty : “In (1613), Mikhail I ascended the throne, founding the Romanov dynasty thatwould rule until 1762 and as Holstein-Gottorp-Romanov until the revolutions of1917. Tsar Mikhail's father Patriarch Filaret of Moscow was descended from theRurik dynasty through the female line. His mother, EvdokiyaGorbataya-Shuyskaya, was a Rurikid princess from the Shuysky branch, daughterof Alexander Gorbatyi-Shuisky. Wikipedia Catherine the Great : Although Catherine did not descend from the Romanov dynasty, her ancestorsincluded members of the Rurik dynasty, which preceded the Romanovs.
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It is easy to confuse the two cities named Novgorod. The city of Vladimir is half way between Moscow and Nizhniy Novgorod. The Novgorod mentioned in all other instances in this video is Velikiy Novgorod.
Velikiy Novgorod is the oldest city which was the seat of power for several Russian rulers including Alexander Nevsky who beat the Swedes and the Teutonic Knights. Nizhny Novgorod on the river Volga was founded an oupost of Moscovite power and served as the rallying point for the Second Peoples' Militia led by Prince Pozharsky and Kuzma Minin which defeated the Poles in 1612 during the Times of Trouble.
Нижний Новгород был основан как опорный пункт для Владимирским княжеством в 1221 году а не Москвой
I know these are proper names but they would be so much easier to remember for English speakers if their pre-names were translated instead of transliterated into what seems like gibberish for Anglophones
Nizhny = Lower (I'm guessing down-river)
Velikiy = Great
*It is easy to confuse the two cities named Novgorod*
Yeah but things aren't that easy. There were also Novgorod Severskiy ("Novgorod of Severian land") and Novgorodok (Little New Town, nowadays Novogrudok in Belarus), also the city of Zviagel was renamed to Novograd-Volynski in 18the century.
In modern folk-history there are even some speculations that "instead of Velikiy Novgorod the author of the Primal Chronicle meant Novgorod Severskiy" etc.
My friend got me this chart and the western one for my eighteenth birthday.
You have a pretty good friend. I wished mine did that.
Victor Hugo Franciscon I have to have a friend in order for that to happen :/
That's pretty cool
Because he doesn’t play those nasty video games that rot your mind
@@karent9353 this looks like bait
It's usually left out from these charts that the grandmother of the first Romanov emperor was a Rurikid princess.
Yep, came here to say this. Genetically Romanovs are Rurikids too.
In fact, that's pretty much how new houses start ruling, by a long and very likely forgotten female line, hence the name change
I remember reading somewhere that Catherine the Great, who was not Romanov by birth but merely married into the family, nonetheless had some kind of Rurikid ancestry.
@@barrymoore4470 This is unlikely and probably not true
@@kuafer3687 they were Germans after Peter III
Vasily IV, Michael Romanov’s predecessor, was also a Rurikid descended from Yaroslav III, a brother of Alexander Nevsky
What's the connection?
I feel the Russians' struggle against gavelkind on a spiritual level.
Same here, and just think how long it took them to sort it out
@dota vinkz Why are you posting this nonsense? Varangians were not Estonian. In fact there was no concept of "Estonia" at the time.
If you play crusader kings you can relate to this
They didn't understand that you have to assassinate your sons until there's only one left...
Very cool, but Ruriks are not Russian. They are Normans.
well, Volodymyr the Great couldn't choose between Catholics and Orthodox, since they were one church until the East-West Schism of 1054
But he chose between Constantinople and Rome and that means a lot
*Vladimir
*Valdimar
Volodymyr the Great born in Western Ukraine, Volyhan to be exact,?, so that would make his genetics what exactly,??
@@Aeg0r right, there was no Ukraine, as well as no Belarus and no Russia, these three nations were formed only in 15th century.
Saint Olga is my favorite female figure from medieval history
An absolute badass
She was do you know how she got revenge for the killing of her husband Ihor/Igor,?. She tied fire cinders to birds feet and flew them to enemies being the Drevlians, . At the time everything was made from wood, and roof tops were made from straw,?. The red hot fire cinders burnt down the enemies kingdom over night giving her the victory.
She’s my 36th grandma😀. The one saint im related to is a Orthodox killer
@@younghistory7417 yeah sure
@@wowwow9679 don’t believe me?
@@dralodolitle5420 Not only that, she had actually requested that each household would give her a pigeon form under their roof as a symbolic tax. So that the fire starts in each house.
Great tree but here are some mistakes:
1) 1:42 he conquered the city or soon to be city (it was formed as a merger of 5 settlements)
2) 2:54 Moscow most likely didn't exist at that time as it was 1st mentioned at 1147
3) 5:18 he attempted to unify/reform pagan religion but failed at it and decided to adopt an established one. His choice was purely political (as it would make him a likely ally of Byzantines but also grant control over church).
But the legend is often resided like that: news went around that he was looking for new religion, so messengers came to his court. He listened to muslims but let them go as drinking was forbidden. Then jews (from Hazaria not Israel) and he asked them about their home if god has abandoned them (as Hazaria was defeated in 969. Next were catholics and he asked them who held power in land monarch or Pope. They said Pope and he let them go.
Unsatisfied with ambassador he launched his own to learn about foreign religion and it went like video describes it.
4) 10:52 It's usually called tributary but ok
5) 14:26 that coat of arms was later adopted but ok
6) 24:15 and was also considered mentally ill
Also Vasily the Third's dates are wrong.
Kyiv aslo did not exist. It was Kiev or Kiow until very 20th century.
@@OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR it's a variation of the same name
And Anna was not a spouse of Yaroslav, she was his mother
@@OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR You are talking of the name but the city itself has never changed.
So makes no difference.
Dimitry of Don deserves an honorable mention for the epic battle of Kulikovo which played a big role in gaining independence from the mongols.
except it's a myth. were there major battles that broke the golden horde's(blue horde's) back - yes, was it this one big battle on this specific spot - probably not. they can't even find the specific field to this day.
12:40 Vladimir is between Moscow and *Nizhni* Novgorod, a different place located a thousand miles away from Novgorod, a fortress and the easternmost outpost of the principality built on the Volga only by 1221 in order to control the newly annexed Mordovia and tax the trade traffic on the river; literally Lower Newtown.
Back in 1999, the government finally changed the original Novgorod’s name to Velikiy Novgorod, Great Newtown, thus ending this centuries-old confusion. Even Russians mix them up frequently, although the locals never see any links between the two and refer to their city simply as Nizhni or colloquially Nino.
UPD the very Moscow as a real city wasn’t a thing at the time yet
Many don't know the truth between Ukrainians and Russians, this explains the Ukrainian branch and Russian branch very well.
dRALO DOLITLE How? All the cities mentioned are located in modern Russia
@@dralodolitle5420 yea,, ukarians have russian+polish+turcic roots, they look almost same, you never find a difference before you ask one.
ethnic relatives
@@1227-z5w Ethnic make up is completely different to Russian. Its actually the Russian Princes that Married Monghol, Turkic, Crimean princesses from the East if you follow history you will know this. This is what made Moscow. Ukrainian Rus, Halych and Volyhan were more intermarried with Poles, Hungarians etc.But you are right to this day and age we are all now mixed, there is no getting away from it the diversity is beautiful.
@@1227-z5w But you need to remember that the Western Early Rus branch is Ukrainian, which existed well before the Eastern which makes modern Russians as the family tree explains. I know back then would have been known as Red Rus/ Ruthenian as Ukrainians as the term Ukrainian was not used. Black and White Rus would be modern Eatern Russians which are Moksha/, who have far more Asian ethnic roots Im talking back then btw not now as we are all now pretty much mixed. I will agree with you that now many Ukrainians are darker which will be to do with Hungarian, Romanian, Polish/ and Lithuanian and Slovak, German etc etc. Russian, Mongol , Tartar, etc etc but we all as neighbours now have a little of everything.
Vladimir is not half way between Moscow and Novgorod. Maybe Nizjni Novgorod, but that's an entirely different city.
Will you eventually make a video covering Bohemian/Czech monarchs? I feel like they are probably the last European nation that hasnt been covered yet. And I know you did the Habsburg family tree, which covers them partially, but still, thats only since 1526, while Bohemian monarchy dates at least to the 9th century. I think Bohemia should get its own dedicated video.
YES! Exactly.
Thank you I’ve been asking for a while. Hopefully your comment will get enough likes so he can see :)
@@Zach-mw5so liked! Hopefully he see this!
Would love to see that
@James Bolton exactly
Vladimir the Great also was called the Red Sun. Sad that Romanov rulers got such boring nicknames, their Rurikid predecessors were much more creative.
The Russians have the best nicknames tho. Moneybag, terrible eyes, big nest.
Red Sun is a nicname of prince from tales. Real Vladimir the Saint newer calling "the Red Sun".
The world got modernized
This video is made to perfection. I always had a passion for learning Eastern European history and I think this is another amazing eastern country to talk about. Good job Matt.
This one was mostly Jack. Thanks Jack 🙂
@@UsefulCharts One nitpick: Dates for Vasily III appear to be wrong - looks like a copy-and-paste from Ivan the Great.
Jack Rackam has a good voice.
Dynasty of Rurykids ruled 862-1598 and 1606-1610 and Vasyliy 4 Shuyskiy is a last member of the dynasty of Rurykids in russian throne, because descendant of Andrey of Suzdal and Vasyliy Kirdiapa who belong to Suzdal branch of Rurykids. And dynasty of Rurykids in the male line still exists!
3:35 "She 'subjugated' the tribe that had killed her husband,..."
"Subjugated" is an understatement. How she 'subjugated' the Drevlian tribe is a story that leads to legends. Let me just say that you do NOT wanna cross St. Olga.
Didn't she have the tribe in question essentially burned alive after locking them in a building? Oh yeah & it was said to have been a "heavenly fire" that started the arson.
Well, early medieval subjugations weren't mild and peaceful anywhere.
That murderou Olga burn my city Korosten( Iskorosten). I born from ashes and was growing up on Drevlianska street in Korosten. Christianity always made saint from murderou.
She burned the entire Drevlian city by using pigeons and sparrows.
@@pelinalwhitestrake3367 With embers attached to them, such a cleaver woman.
Some Rus leaders with their real, Old Swedish and Old West Norse, names:
Rurik (Rörik) - (first Rus king)
Sineus (Signjot) and Truvor (Torvard) - (Ruriks brothers)
Oleg (Helge) - (Kievan ruler after Rurik)
Igor (Ingvar) - (Ruriks son)
Saint Olga (Helga) - (Saint and ruler of Kiev)
Vladimir the Great (Valdemar) - (Prince of Novgorod and Kiev who fled home to Sweden, asembeled a Viking Army and reconquered Novgorod from his brother)
Yaroslav the Wise (Jarizleifr Valdamarsson) - (first Christian Prince of Kiev)
Askold (Hǫskuldr) - (prince of Kiev and founder of the first Vikings' state in the Dnieper basin)
Wow I need more, who else
Well, names Yaroslav (Yarilo - Slavic god), Mstislav (Mest' - revenge), Svyatoslav (Svyatost' - holiness), Vyacheslav, Miroslav (Mir - peace), Bronislav (Bronya - armor), Vladislav, Dobroslav (Dobro - kind) etc. are purely russian/east slavic, not norse or swedish
@@ded_omlt4934 True👍 There was a lot of intermarrying between the local ethnic groups (Slavs and Finns) and the small amount of ”Vikings” that lived in Kievan Rus (including Rurik and his people). Sooner or later these Norse Vikings mixed with the local slavs and finns and most of the descendents of the Norse ended up being more or less normal slavs/finns with normal, local names. This include the Rurik Dynasti who ended up being more or less normal Russian slavs. So these people having slavic names and culture is not suprising.
Igor, Gleb, Oleg, Olga - these Russian names come from Old Norse
Prior to Svjatoslav, yes, but after, all names were Slavic (or Greek after Christianization). Yaroslav and Vladimir are Slavic. You may find them both in Western and South Slavic countries. There can be equivalents though German, Baltic and Slavic tribes have had the same Indo-European origin after all.
Finally been waiting for this one!
Awesome vid as always, can't wait for more African monarchies
Vlad the Great
Is/Was Black
This may be a controversial one, but here's an idea for a future family tree video:
The Westboro Baptist Church family tree.
Most of the "church" is made up of just one family (the Phelps family). You could also talk about in a video in that family tree about some ex-members of Westboro and why they left the church (like Nathan Phelps and Megan Phelps-Roper). Just a little warning: It's going to be a very wide family tree. Westboro members have a LOT of children. Fred Phelps had 13 children.
Let's not water those weeds.
@@M-CH_ I agree with you, but am also morbidly curious about this...
DO IT
@@kacperfrontczak1257 They thrive on the attention people give them.
Oh god that would be like trying to map out a mound of fire ants. Just angry chaos.
While it's a common belief that Sviatopolk killed Boris and Gleb, some historians claim it was actually Yaroslav's doing.
Yaroslav's daughter Anna brought a Gospel in Church Slavonic to France which became the Gospel that French kings used to swear their oath. There is a legend that over time the French forgot its origins and started to believe it was writer in mystic angelic language until Peter the Great visited France in the XVIII century and read it.
Actualy Sviatopolk didn't rebelled against his father (Vladimir the Great), he wasn't even born at that time. And because Vladimir took his brother's wife it's possible that Yaropolk was his father.
Also some sources independent from kievan rulers (Icelandic saga) point out that it was Yaroslav the Wise who ordered his brothers (Boris and Gleb) assassination by icelandic mercenaries.
It must take a lot of time to make these charts. Very impressive.
Correction: Svyatopolk was the OLDER brother of Boris and Gleb, and the guys were 14 and 16 years old at the time of their death. They weren't babies, but they were still very young, and that's why Svyatopolk became the Accursed - he murdered not only his brothers but children
Most of all Ruric was Hrorekr of Uteland, who later ruled in Rustringen, from where "lyudi rustii" of early Russian Cronicles, finelly came to Novgorod.
Rognega of Polotsk is an interesting figure -there is an 19th century Russian opera by the composer Serov.
Last time i was this early, Helgi wasn’t a legitimized bastard in ck2 yet
@Heberth R. Helgi was either a distant relative of Rurik or miltary commander (Igor's regent). In CK2 game he's assigned as his son.
I think Helgi was Rurik's personal sorcerer. He was called "prophetic" and nowhere is there an explanation why.
@@radziwill7193 to be fair, anything before 1000 ce in some parts of the world is unknown. We don’t even know if Ragnar is a real person or not. After all, most of the sagas that were wet in about that time were completed centuries after the fact
@@explosivereactionstv7414 Sure. We don't even know very well what happened in the 20th century.
@@radziwill7193 I've looked it up. He was either Rurik's tribesman or brother of his wife.
But his nickname is unclear as language changed in 10 centuries and chronicles were compiled after christianization.
There is also a legend that he had been predicted to die by his horse. Only to die of a snake bite (who lived in the horse's remains).
"he wasn't a Swede, he was a Rus". Yes true. Becuse no one was Swedish. Rus, probably comes from Roslagen in east Uppland in modern Sweden so he comes from "Sweden"
Sweden as a kingdom didn't exist yet, and it still had two main peoples, the Svers and the Geats. The country is named after the Svers, as is the Swedish name of the country, Sverige.
@@greninjamastergabe6452 *Svear, in weather reports you can still hear them say Svealand, which includes Dalarna, Uppland, Värmland, Närke, Västmanland and Södermanland (Sörmland).
Right. Although it's hard to draw a clear line of continuity from one to other, much like there's dispute over who can claim to be the Kievan Rus' "successor".
The Rus definitely had elements of what we would today classify as Swedish culture, but probably didn't identify as Swedish themselves.
Genetic studies of the descendants of princely families descended from Rurik:Golitsins, Starodubsky, Pozharsky and others; showed that their haplotype The Y chromosome originates from the territory of Sweden, the present-day location of Uppsala.
@@wervolf2115 You can't get wrong with blue eyes and blonde hair(natural not bleached blonde)...
It was mentioned, that Mstislav married a Swedish princess. We could also mention, that their daughters (with the Nordic names Ingeborg and Malmfrid) were married into Nordic royalty. Malmfrid was married twice, first to a Norwegian king and then to a Danish. Ingeborg was married to the first duke of Schleswig, and their son, who was born a week after the murder of his father, and who was named after his great-grandfather Vladimir Monomach, became king Valdemar 1st of Denmark.
It is extra interesting since I never learned Russian history is school, but learned Lithuania's history. It's like another side of the coin
There is a literal error: One of Vladimir II’s son is YaropoLk (nor Yaropok) II. Also, it’s interesting to mention, that his brother Yuri Longarm (and also one of the sons of Vladimir II Momomakh)-is famous because it was his time, when Moscow’s name appeared for the first time. Of course, there were people living there before, but it’s because of him Moscow chose its official establishment date as 1147. And just in case I say, that he didn’t have long arms lol, and Dolgoruky means “far-reaching”, and it’s the best description of his politics.
Great video! I love when you cover this side of Europe. One correction I would like to add is that obviously neither Ivan III nor IV -conquered- reunited all of the original Rus' because large parts of it were under the Polish or Lithuanian rule, including Kyiv/Kiev itself. The Grand Duchy of Lithuania was in many ways a succesor-state of Rus'; Ruthenian (Ruski) was its main official language, the Orthodox Rus elites (including a number of the Rurikid lines) played an important role in the realm and some Lithuanians, even members of the Giedyminid dynasty were asimilating with their culture (that is until the Polish culture gradualy started to have greater influence).
A good ilustration of that is the great battle of Orsha in 1514, where the Lithuanian and Polish forces under the Grand Hetman of Lithuania Konstanty Ostrogski defeated the Muscovites, stopping them from reuniting some more Rus lands. This event is celebrated today by many Ukrainians and Belarusians and Ostrogski himself was not only an Orthodox Ruthenian but also a Rurikid prince!
Can't wait for Lithuanians to come and deny this.
@@serbianstallion8321 Hopefully they won't. I've seen people claiming that modern Lithuanians aren't the "real ones" in the historical sense and I understand why this pisses them off. I want to stress that I didn't mean it that way. I also have seen some Lithuanians being chill despite all that, acknowledging the mixed character of the Grand Duchy and being supportive of Belarusians viewing the same shared legacy as the base of their national identity.
The fact is that Kievan Rus is a historical term of the 19th century. The country was called Ruska land. And rus is the prince's warrior.
@@radziwill7193 You mean the whole term "Kievan Rus", right? I'm certain that Rus' (with the soft s - Русь, Ruś whichever spelling you prefer, Latinized as Ruthenia) was a name of land (or lands) for much longer.
@@Artur_M. In fact, Rus (Ros) was called by foreigners. Rus as the name of the state appeared with the title "Tsar of All Rus" after copying from "Patriarch of All Rus." by the way, the modern name Russia is also a Latinized name from the Romans.
Error on 21:50 - Vasily has Ivan's reign dates
Love seeing the colab always spices things up. Could you do a who would be Emperor of China today?
the Mandate of Heaven would not allow the restoration of a fallen dynasty. So it's whoever takes the throne next (which the way things are going will be the Xi Emperors soon)
Darth Annoying god I hope so. China needs another Han Dynasty or Tang Dynasty. The house of Liu might not be able to come back in to power but China sure as hell could use a family like them
You are absolutely BRILLIANT,!!!?, thanks for all this means so much
Vasily the Adequate doesn't seem to have the right dates.
You could say the dates are INadequate
I have been waiting for half a year! Never clicked a video quicker
Igor (Ingvar) Rurikovich (Røriksen), of Kiev
878-945
BIRTH ABT. 878 • Novgorod the Great, Novgorod, Novgorod Land
DEATH 945 • Korosten, Kievan Rus
28th great-grandfather
Been wanting this for a while! Thanks!
Some future video ideas:
1. Bohemian/Czech Monarchs (ending with the first Habsburg, Ferdinand I, as you have a Habsburg video already.)
2. Who would be Emperor of Mexico today?
3. Who would be monarch of Central/South American countries if they declared independence from Spain and became monarchies? (Might be difficult)
4. Any other updates of older videos (I’ve noticed your video quality has improved greatly over the last 2 years. Credit to you.)
:)
they did one on who would be Aztec Emperor already. Which if you ask me is the more legitimate claimant to Mexico than either post-Independance Emperors.
Darth Annoying I’d disagree on that because both Mexican royal families have claimants to the throne today. Even if both Empires were short lived
Thank goodness. I looked for this chart a few weeks ago and was disappointed you hadn't produced it!
You should make a video about who will be king of Mexico. Some people want a descendant from Agustin I, others want a relative from Maximilian I. However, when Mexico became an independent country, it's crown was offered to Ferdinand VII's brothers.
Luis Alfonso Romero Vargas that will be a good video
@Heberth R. I want a monarchy for Mexico, I'd like an Habsburg king, however I'd like either Maximilian II (Agustin I's greatgreatgrandson) as king of Mexico.
@Heberth R. I know that Mexico's monarch would be an emperor, however I think that having an emperor would be considered as imperialism.
@@askia8704 Oh god, the poor brainwashed kid...
He already did. The one about aztec monarchy mentions the European emperors.
Since 24/2 I’ve been diving in this sort of history this is very insightful
Khorosheye povestvovaniye, Jack Rackam!
Haven't watched the whole video so it might have been mentioned but a Rurikid princess (Anna of Kiev) married Henry I of France so is the ancestress of a hell of a lot of European royalty!
Nothing is said about the intrigues of the nobility at court and the poisoning of many members of Ivan's family. About the murder of his son, this is just a rumor that has no reliable facts. But there are facts that all members of the royal family found an abnormal amount of arsenic in their bones.
And there was a change of mood for a reason. Before that, Ivan had become seriously ill and was near death. Then the nobility tried to put on the throne instead of his son and heir, a cousin who was quiet and who was expected to be easily controlled. Therefore, when Ivan recovered, he abdicated the throne, and when he gained power, he began to persecute noble princes. He initially suspected them of poisoning his mother, his beloved wife, and now when they openly tried to kill his son. while he was lying ill. After that, he began to act.
Also it was never called Kievan Rus, name was created by foreigners to describe where capital was. But nation was called just Rus’
How many The Greats does Russia have?
Rurikids: Y E S
Not "Russia", but "Rus'".
@@user-histor rus is russia now.
@@sael52 No, it's not. Russia stoled this name. Moskow state was named Moskowia until 1721. And in medieval chronicles "Rus'" is the name of Kiev and lands around it. Even in XIX Ukrainians were named "rusyny". But Moskow conquered Ukraine in XVII-XVIII centeries and forbade Ukrainians from using this name
@@user-histor as far as i know you guys were part of russia until bolsheviks takeover. are you saying that before the bolshevics russia started call part of it's territory ukraine?
@@sael52 Russian authorities called Ukraine mainly "Malorosya" (Little Russia) in the XVIII-XIX centuries.
We have lost our state in the end of XVIII, but we have our history. It's complicated and not well known for foreigners, especially not our neighborhoods. And Russia wanted it to be so.
18:55 "...put an end to the system of succession..."
which you didn't bother to describe
Just discovered this channel and love it! Just ordered the chart (very reasonably priced). BTW, my friend would love to see one on the history of Buddhism.
That's Jack Rackam? Now that cleared up a bunch of things.
"Ivan" is not pronounced "EYE-van", it's pronounced "EE-vahn".
ee-VAHN actually. Most names in the video are Anglicised, the actual pronunciation in Russian is often different. And even more different in Ukrainian and Belarusian.
@@imokin86 Exactly this - it's a name familiar enough to English speakers that it has a standard Anglicized form, and pronouncing it in Russian the entire time would be sort of strange
@@imokin86 The Anglicised pronunciation of Ian Fleming's name is EE-en, not EYE-an. I think you mean "Americanized", not "Anglicised".
@@JackRackam by the way, what do you think, if a native speaker of Russian presents a video on the same topic in English, should they stick to how these names typically sound in English? That is, saying vlAdimir and rOmanov, not vladEEmir and romAHnov. What would sound more natural?
@@imokin86 Huh, that's a really interesting question. I think it would definitely make you sound more like a native English speaker, although if it were the case of your own name or a specific other person's, I could see someone wanting to go by their name as it's pronounced in Russia
it was Tsardom of Muscovy, not "of Russia", as the name Rus was appropriated later, in 18 century by Peter I (Romanov)
That's false, "Rusia" was used by russian tsars and dukes since 10th century. "Muscovy" wasn't exist, it's uncorrect name of Russia given by Poland
This guy sounds like Mr Skinner from the Simpsons.
His name is Jack rackam
Steamed Charts!
@@Angeli28 yeah ive been watching his videos for a while but i just noticed one day he sounds like Skinner.
@@OiiRobbi3x I thought he sounded more like a Phil Hartman character.
Probably some interesting detail is that for most of the described period, the inheritance there worked somewhat differently from the european ways, with the eldest male inheriting (so if a person dies, his brother inherits rather than his children). TBH it was a bit of mix of both, leading to conflicts each generation.
You should do the Bounty mutineers from Pitcairn Island family tree chart. Would be very interesting.
Another long yet great video!!!
Great job, thanks! Greetings from Russia!
love your videos hope to see many more!
correction: 22:10 Both Ivan III the Great and his son Vasily III have a reign in 1462-1505. Perhaps Vasily's should be 1505-1533.
Love it especially “the big nest” and down
I dont know if you noticed by now or not, but Vasily III has the exact same years of his reign as Ivan III the Great, which seems to be incorrect because of the gap between Vasily III’s reign and Ivan the Terrible.
It would be interesting if you showed the Serbian dynasty as continued from the Vukanovic dynasty, which itself descended from the Vojislavjevic dynasty.
It is basically the same dynasty but the name changed every time a eponymous head founded it's own cadet branch. The Nemanjic dynasty was created by Stefan Nemanja, who was the cadet of the Vukanovic main branch at that time. And the Vukanovic dynasty from the Vojislavjevic as well, etc...
Guys, its Kyiv, and always was (the city was named in the name of its founder Kyi). "Kiev" is in russian
doesn't matter, its like moskva, everybody calling it moscow, i don't see russians bitching abou it
@@mykelas531 everybody calling it moscow while speaking in english, because its in english. but for some reason, while speaking in english, everybody calling Kyiv Kiev (in russian)
@@summertime.speka1 just like "moscow" not moskva, my point still stands
Founders of Kiev were Khazars, and its name was Kuiava. Stop singing yor ukrainian tales about Kiev.
I like the addition of the maps. Helpful
7:01 !! The Spanish Inquisiti-oh..
The Russian Newsweek tested the first two Rurikid princes. The first one was Prince Dmitri Mikhailovich Shahovskoi of Paris, France, the prominent Professor at the Russian Orthodox Institute, who made the 1st Y-DNA test in the Rurikid Dynasty (at the end of 2006). Unexpectedly, he was found to belong to the genetic haplogroup N1c1 - the so-called “Finno-Ugrian”. It was found that Rurik was of Varangian origin (a sub-branch in the N1c1 genetic haplogroup). The haplogroup is most common among Finns. Quite rare among Swedes (unless they have some Finnic ancestors which was not so commong during Viking era). During the Viking/Varangian times the Baltic-Finnic tribes inhabited much larger areas than today ( for eg.present day Latvia and Sweden) and places like Gotland.
@Tom Fury You don't seem to be very well informed about the Viking age history in the Baltics. Even Widsith, Exeter Book mentions Caelic Rex Fennicum (Caleva King of Finns)...and there is lot more from Al Idrisi and Sagas if ones cares to look. Caesar ruled the Greeks
and Caelic the Finns,
Hagena the Rugians
and Heoden the Gloms.
Witta ruled the
@Tom Fury Calling Baltic-Finnic tribes "uncivilized" would be quite ignorant and plain wrong. According to archeological evidence, the Balto Finns were on the same level in terms of technology as their Scandinavian, Baltic and later Slavic neighbours. And according to an increase in finds from the 500s to 800s, it is believed that they formed into their own local chiefdoms, not too different from for example Scandinavian petty kingdoms led by regional chiefs/kings before they unified into their own kingdoms. There is also evidence, at least in Finland, that from the 800s onwards, the Finnish tribes had a cultural and societal set back. Less metal, jewelry and other "sophisticated" item finds from this time indicate a loss in population, trade and overall structure in society. And the Finnish tribes did not fully recover from this set back leaving them as easy pickings for the coming centuries.
@Tom Fury If you mean a unified state or medieval kingdom, then sure. But they most definitely had chiefdoms and semi-states in place with even evidence of an early taxation/tributary systems. Also for example the net of hillforts covering the supposed Tavastian heartlands and protecting a pretty major and vital trade route for Finland, the Oxen Road of Tavastia, would suggest some sort of centralization and cooperation. But I don't see a reason to call them primitive and uncivilized just on the basis that they did not form into a united kingdom that carved itself a succesful history that is known by many like for example Sweden did. And they did repell practically all invasion attempts by their neighbours for centuries, only being subjugated when their neighbours got the support and resources of the European Christian world to fight against the "evil pagans". Must have been doing something right, eh?
@Tom Fury Well, Finland already had a Christian community for over 100 years before the first Swedish crusade. If Russia and Sweden did not colonize Finland for example and things played out without outside influence, Christianity probably would have overtaken the local religion and a unified Finnish state could have been possible. But this is just one possibility and way to speculate.
"Kiev" is the English exonym for Kiev, Київ (Kyiv) is the Ukrainian and Russian spelling, but we don't use that, in the same way that we don't call Austria "Österreich", Copenhagen "København" or Grozny "Соьлжа-ГӀала" (Sölƶa-Ġala). While it would be great to speak all the languages of the world and be able to use every native name for everywhere, life's too short and exonyms are both easier and fun to have.
Exactly. I love Ukraine and Ukrainians, but with all due respect, I’m spelling it “Kiev.” That’s how I was taught as a child and I’ll continue to do it.
Kiev is historically Russian since no Ukrainians lived in Kiev until very 20th century. THey moved to Kiev after Russian Revolution and establishing of Ukrainian Soviet Republic.
@@Zach-mw5so And you're not wrong. Name Kiev comes from Old Russian character named Kij and has nothing to do with modern Ukrainian pronounciation. So do not listen to them
I think some of you need to go back and look at the family tree and realise who come from who,?, also Russians came much later on after King Danilo of Ruthenia, Moscow wasn't even built at the time if when Ruthenia was ruling, was a good 1.500 years prior. You can try spin things all you want but will never except that Ruthenian ppl are your roots and that modern Russians descend from Ruthenian ppl, ie modern Ukrainians, the proof is in the video who was first,????. KIEV is Russian terminology for KYIV in Ukrainian.
All of you are correct and wrong at the same time. In Primary Chronicle the name of the city is Кыѥвъ - Kyev. Right in the middle. Also, there were no Russians or Ukrainians at that time. By the time of Vladimir the Great the separate East Slavic tribes only start forging in to solid Rusin identity. Belarusians, Ukrainians and Russians are equal descendants of that nation.
Your videos always make my day!
There was no state called “Kievian Rus” it was simply the Rus. The term “Kievian Rus” was coined in XIX Century as a description of time period.
this is the name of a state, not a time period. historians called it that because Kiev was the main thing in it.
@@алексгай-я5й Wrong. Learn your own history. Read some more. Read Byzantine sources, Scandinavian and European sources. Nowhere and I mean nowhere there is term Kievan Rus until the XIX century and even then only in reference to a time period when Kiev was a main seed of the Rus not as a State, but as a collection of principalities. The same way the Vladimir Rus and Vladimir-Suzdal Rus was referenced. And later Moscow and all Rus. Please do not argue about you have no friggin idea about. I beg you. Read the sources and then get back to me. Cause some of us have actually spent time learning.
The people were known as Rus, but the nation was known in Norse as 'Garðaríki' meaning 'the realm of walled cities'.
@@Takhor86 Partially right you are. You see, peoples of Nordic tribes aka vikings settled in Novgorod first, then expanded the rule to Kiev and made it the capital. So it actually was the Kievan Rus even despite the term really wasn't there yet. Also the guy is totally right saying it is indeed a state name.
@@НикитаРозвод Thank you for your reply. Now, please provide a link to any document Russian, Ukrainian or otherwise where there is a mention of such state. Thank you in advance.
Jeez.... With the bent over trees and tying him to them and letting them go... And that's a pretty cool story how Vladimir chose which religion to follow.
I watched a very good Russian documentary titled "Sophia" about Ivan III and Sophia.
good one
Great video today keep it up your doing amazing job
Kiven Rus is a western term, in russia the term Old Rus has been used.
term "Kievan rus'" was created in Russia in 19th century, to describe period of time while kiev was capital. Author already said in the begining, that this is only a historical term, not an actual name of the state.
russian history narrative is a myth.
Heh. They not only had been staying on the riversides, but also were cursing each other 😂
Definitely understating how Olga subjugated that village that didn’t pay. She was a savage, definitely not a woman to piss off
The issue, alluded to several times, was not the appointment of priests, but of bishops.
22:05 Are the dates for Vasily III wrong? I think it should say 1505-1533.
Ok, about the last Ivan, the Terrible. He became Grand Prince when was a 5-year old child, and instead of him the true ruler was his mother's family - Glynskyie; later, there was an palace troubles, when Trubetskie tried to replace Glynskyie and kill his mother. Because of that, Ivan the terrible during beginning of his reign already was paranoid and thought, that most of his courtiers from boyarskaya duma are traitors (and yes, that was the truth). But at early days he had some people, that he had seen as loyal, and they were actually talented - Prince Kurbsckyi (he wasn't a blood Prince, no, but Tsar had a right to make any person even the Prince) ; he really believed and loved his first wife - Anastasia (Zhakharina-Koshkina-Yurieva, or just Romanova). Also his tutor - monk Silvester, and his minister Adashev. They were the ones, who inspired most of his reforms and helped him. But Silvester died in 1555, Adashev suffered from plots, and Anastasia died in 1564. That resulted a great mental break, and tsar was sured that she was killed by boyar plot. He "divorsed" Russia and taken a half to single rule, and a half left to Nikita Romanov. His territory called "Oprichnina", and other territory - " Oprichnina ". And that actually was, formally, a lawful act, expect for the fact, that " Oprichnina " men's a part of family holding, that should go to the wife of the dead man. Yes, to the wife, it's not a mistake. He later had 6 more wives one after another, but their families or them were founded unfaithful, and Kurbskyi treasoned him and joined Polish service, corrupting some of army supplies with him. That resulted an extremely harsh measuresto reunite country, and during that days, from family of just a simple horse-riding warrior from little village behind Costroma town, to the position of the most trusted and powerful Tsar's advisor was rising future Tsar, Boris Godunov, who will start by assuming throne to himself Russian-like Game of Thrones, "Time of troubles". And yes, he really looks similar to one GoT person, who also used a plot to assume throne :)
FANTASTIC I love how you have described the Ruryk family tree. I shows the UKRAINIAN, branch and the modern Russian branch to a tee. Many should watch this as many are confused and don't know the truth. Ruthenian Rus is now Ukraine and Moscow Rus modern Russia it cannot get any simpler, thanks very much for sharing. Also it clearly states that Ukrainians and Russians are not brothers but in fact cousins.
I need to watch this AGAIN,?, but very much SPOT ON WELL DONE, this explains everything thanks you.
8:42 "...even a triumvirate, that ended they way all triumvirates do."
Too much ego with them.
Интересно , спасибо.
It would be good to see the rulers of Carantania
@Levi Charles central Europe, south Austria and Slovenia.
these are some great nicknames
3:00 - I have to point out anachronism: Moscow was founded around 1147, it shouldn't be on this map about this particular period
It's just for reference.
@@UsefulCharts Yeah, I figured that out, but Novgorod could be good choice for that ;)
1147 isn't foundation date but first mention, foundation can be earlier or even later
@@aethelfrith7376 that's why I wrote "around" :)
I think the years under Vasily III should be 1505-1533; right now, it incorrectly is the same as Ivan the Great
11:40 strange map, there was not point in history like this, because when there was Kingdom of Ruthenia, Kyiv and neighborhood was in small principalities or under Lithuania, and the reasoning is that Ruthenia is part of former Rus or it's descendant, but not two different things
Russia is the descendant from Ruthenia ie modern Ukrainians, it's explained very well in the family trees.
@@dralodolitle5420 You are talking nonsense! The designation of Ruthena was introduced by the authorities of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, before that this territory had the name Chervonaya Rus (Red Russia), and the population called itself Rus.
@@vladimirnikolskiy That is also true correct,?, how am I talking nonsense,?, where Volodomire born,?, Exactly same place, I except that they traveled and integrated of vast territories, which gives modern RuSSia as our cousins nothing more. Polyani, Drevlyans, Severians and Kyivan Rus especially the western branch is Ukrainian blood. The East Rus is related to the Khanate, Tartar, Mongol.
@@dralodolitle5420 Why repeat obvious heresy? There was no Ukraine as well as no Ukrainian blood in those days, there were Russian principalities: Novgorod, Vladimir, Kiev, Galicia and so on. The concept of Malorossiya was introduced by the Tsars of Moscow in the 16th -17th century, the name Ruthenia and the renaming of Little Russians into Ukrainians appeared in Austria in the 19th century. You will never find a mention of Ukraine as a state until the 19th century, just as you will not be able to demonstrate a single coin with the text Ukraine on it!
@@vladimirnikolskiy Correct there was no Ukraine, but at the same time no RuSSia,??, correct,?, , what I’m trying to point out it who are the descendants of the branches of the blood line,?,. There was Grand Duchy of ?, so and so and so forth,??, correct,??, so I understand what you are saying. Grand Duchy,s pal so I don’t understand what you are saying,??, the true roots are modern Ukrainians,?, as they are your tru ancestry as they were born well long before,??, CORRECT,??
wow I have been waiting for this one two thousand years :O
Some people believe that Rurik was no Scandinavian but Uralic, based on DNA tests on some of the earliest Rurikid dynasty members discovered. That would be pretty cool, it means that Hungarians and the Arpads are not the only Uralic people to rule over large groups of Indo-Europeans.
Yeah sure Rus' came from Sweden but they are somehow Ugric, geez you Finno-Ugrics are even crazier than us Serbs with your pseudo-science, simply they were Swedes that quickly got assimilated and became Slavic.
what's halfway between great and terrible?
um... a d e q u a t e
this hits different after russo ukrainian war in 2022
Dmitry Mikhaylovich of Tver (Terrible eyes as you say) more accurate nicknamed The Fearsome Eyes
Here before Turks claim this dynasty was Turkic...
wait what
What wait
The Turks, on the contrary, are older than the Slavs. They existed even under the Indo-Europeans. The fact is that the Turks began to migrate later than the Indo-Europeans and therefore they almost retained their phenotype, culture and language.
@Fiamo Scarlette Ukraine (frontier) at that time was in the north-east, Kiev was the capital of the Russian land.
Why did the Eastern Slavs start calling themselves Russians? Because this is the result of the work of the Orthodox Church in which Russian and Orthodox are synonymous. For the same reason, the Transcarpathian Croats were called Rusyns, because they are Orthodox. Although the Rurik people did not get to them.
@Fiamo Scarlette They were Russians they became Slavonized from the first generation. No Kyiv existen only Kiev and no Ukrainians lived in Kiev prior 20th century.
Largest majority was Russian and largest minority was Jewish.
I do wish you would have discussed Rurik more extensively.
Not Vladimir, but Volodymyr the Great, because it was written that way back then.
Not Olga, but Olha and so on.
It was written Volodiměr. But yeah, it's sadly true that for most parts English using Russian spelling for Rus history, but I think this is the easiest choice for them and also like convention.
And finally Kyiv is Kyiv
Ha, I watched down to Danylo and they calling him Daniel and his son is Leo, interesting
Olha? really? Change G -> H happened in later period in rutheninan language. In old Russian language (ancetor of all east slavic languages) there wasn't such fricative phoneme.
Denis Yarukhin, If u don’t know Ruthenia is actually Rus’ in Latin )
And Russia (from Ancient Greek) called itself so only after Petr The Great.
And yeh Peter is Petr, and Daniel is Danylo and so on.
@@pavlozalevskyi to be fair he said nothing about it
Ivan the Moneybag in my mind was Scrooge McDuck or the Manopoly Man in a previous life
Olga's revenge story is a good one. the best part was that she sent doves with embers to burn the tribe's village. two more good revenge stories involves a woman cutting off her abusive husband's member and the tale of Elliot Rogers, who i feel bad for.
My guy ivan flexed so hard on them they called him Moneybag 😂😂
The Romanovs are also Ruriks !!!
One of the official surnames of the last Emperors of Russia was Romanov.
They chose that name because some of their ancestors bore that name.
But they could also have chosen the name of Rurik, as they also descended fromthe Rurik dynasty.
Wikipedia Rurik dynasty :
“In (1613), Mikhail I ascended the throne, founding the Romanov dynasty thatwould rule until 1762 and as Holstein-Gottorp-Romanov until the revolutions of1917. Tsar Mikhail's father Patriarch Filaret of Moscow was descended from theRurik dynasty through the female line. His mother, EvdokiyaGorbataya-Shuyskaya, was a Rurikid princess from the Shuysky branch, daughterof Alexander Gorbatyi-Shuisky.
Wikipedia Catherine the Great :
Although Catherine did not descend from the Romanov dynasty, her ancestorsincluded members of the Rurik dynasty, which preceded the Romanovs.
You should've mentioned that it's debatable if rurik existed or not