Rurikid Dynasty Family Tree | Rurik the Viking to Ivan the Terrible

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  • @cormacmacsuibhne2867
    @cormacmacsuibhne2867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +338

    My friend got me this chart and the western one for my eighteenth birthday.

    • @victorhugofranciscon7899
      @victorhugofranciscon7899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      You have a pretty good friend. I wished mine did that.

    • @Zach-mw5so
      @Zach-mw5so 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Victor Hugo Franciscon I have to have a friend in order for that to happen :/

    • @MalachiCo0
      @MalachiCo0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's pretty cool

    • @karent9353
      @karent9353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because he doesn’t play those nasty video games that rot your mind

    • @MalachiCo0
      @MalachiCo0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@karent9353 this looks like bait

  • @shaevor5680
    @shaevor5680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    It is easy to confuse the two cities named Novgorod. The city of Vladimir is half way between Moscow and Nizhniy Novgorod. The Novgorod mentioned in all other instances in this video is Velikiy Novgorod.

    • @skymaster4743
      @skymaster4743 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Velikiy Novgorod is the oldest city which was the seat of power for several Russian rulers including Alexander Nevsky who beat the Swedes and the Teutonic Knights. Nizhny Novgorod on the river Volga was founded an oupost of Moscovite power and served as the rallying point for the Second Peoples' Militia led by Prince Pozharsky and Kuzma Minin which defeated the Poles in 1612 during the Times of Trouble.

    • @leper2698
      @leper2698 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Нижний Новгород был основан как опорный пункт для Владимирским княжеством в 1221 году а не Москвой

    • @marcusaurelius4941
      @marcusaurelius4941 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I know these are proper names but they would be so much easier to remember for English speakers if their pre-names were translated instead of transliterated into what seems like gibberish for Anglophones

    • @zeoxyman
      @zeoxyman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nizhny = Lower (I'm guessing down-river)
      Velikiy = Great

  • @akikolehmainen88
    @akikolehmainen88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    It's usually left out from these charts that the grandmother of the first Romanov emperor was a Rurikid princess.

    • @kuafer3687
      @kuafer3687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Yep, came here to say this. Genetically Romanovs are Rurikids too.

    • @elizavetamainfield15
      @elizavetamainfield15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      In fact, that's pretty much how new houses start ruling, by a long and very likely forgotten female line, hence the name change

  • @pannakocka
    @pannakocka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    well, Volodymyr the Great couldn't choose between Catholics and Orthodox, since they were one church until the East-West Schism of 1054

    • @Rahmatow
      @Rahmatow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      But he chose between Constantinople and Rome and that means a lot

    • @christiankalinkina239
      @christiankalinkina239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      *Vladimir

    • @TheOneCalledSloth
      @TheOneCalledSloth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      *Valdimar

    • @dralodolitle5420
      @dralodolitle5420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Volodymyr the Great born in Western Ukraine, Volyhan to be exact,?, so that would make his genetics what exactly,??

    • @Aeg0r
      @Aeg0r ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@dralodolitle5420 when Vladimir* was born, there was no such thing as ukraine lmao.

  • @AlohaKavebear
    @AlohaKavebear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Vasily IV, Michael Romanov’s predecessor, was also a Rurikid descended from Yaroslav III, a brother of Alexander Nevsky

    • @revinhatol
      @revinhatol 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What's the connection?

  • @spookyshark632
    @spookyshark632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    I feel the Russians' struggle against gavelkind on a spiritual level.

    • @JackRackam
      @JackRackam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Same here, and just think how long it took them to sort it out

    • @boshi9
      @boshi9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @dota vinkz Why are you posting this nonsense? Varangians were not Estonian. In fact there was no concept of "Estonia" at the time.

    • @wokeuplikethis7729
      @wokeuplikethis7729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      If you play crusader kings you can relate to this

    • @bishopthefool
      @bishopthefool 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They didn't understand that you have to assassinate your sons until there's only one left...

    • @Roshenera
      @Roshenera 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very cool, but Ruriks are not Russian. They are Normans.

  • @AleksandraLapaeva
    @AleksandraLapaeva 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Dimitry of Don deserves an honorable mention for the epic battle of Kulikovo which played a big role in gaining independence from the mongols.

  • @Crick1952
    @Crick1952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    Saint Olga is my favorite female figure from medieval history
    An absolute badass

    • @dralodolitle5420
      @dralodolitle5420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      She was do you know how she got revenge for the killing of her husband Ihor/Igor,?. She tied fire cinders to birds feet and flew them to enemies being the Drevlians, . At the time everything was made from wood, and roof tops were made from straw,?. The red hot fire cinders burnt down the enemies kingdom over night giving her the victory.

    • @younghistory7417
      @younghistory7417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      She’s my 36th grandma😀. The one saint im related to is a Orthodox killer

    • @wowwow9679
      @wowwow9679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@younghistory7417 yeah sure

    • @younghistory7417
      @younghistory7417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wowwow9679 don’t believe me?

    • @shmoola
      @shmoola 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@dralodolitle5420 Not only that, she had actually requested that each household would give her a pigeon form under their roof as a symbolic tax. So that the fire starts in each house.

  • @abrvalg321
    @abrvalg321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Great tree but here are some mistakes:
    1) 1:42 he conquered the city or soon to be city (it was formed as a merger of 5 settlements)
    2) 2:54 Moscow most likely didn't exist at that time as it was 1st mentioned at 1147
    3) 5:18 he attempted to unify/reform pagan religion but failed at it and decided to adopt an established one. His choice was purely political (as it would make him a likely ally of Byzantines but also grant control over church).
    But the legend is often resided like that: news went around that he was looking for new religion, so messengers came to his court. He listened to muslims but let them go as drinking was forbidden. Then jews (from Hazaria not Israel) and he asked them about their home if god has abandoned them (as Hazaria was defeated in 969. Next were catholics and he asked them who held power in land monarch or Pope. They said Pope and he let them go.
    Unsatisfied with ambassador he launched his own to learn about foreign religion and it went like video describes it.
    4) 10:52 It's usually called tributary but ok
    5) 14:26 that coat of arms was later adopted but ok
    6) 24:15 and was also considered mentally ill

    • @Decumos
      @Decumos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Also Vasily the Third's dates are wrong.

    • @Boyar300AV
      @Boyar300AV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kyiv aslo did not exist. It was Kiev or Kiow until very 20th century.

    • @abrvalg321
      @abrvalg321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Boyar300AV it's a variation of the same name

  • @frederickthegreat1352
    @frederickthegreat1352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    Will you eventually make a video covering Bohemian/Czech monarchs? I feel like they are probably the last European nation that hasnt been covered yet. And I know you did the Habsburg family tree, which covers them partially, but still, thats only since 1526, while Bohemian monarchy dates at least to the 9th century. I think Bohemia should get its own dedicated video.

    • @Macion-sm2ui
      @Macion-sm2ui 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      YES! Exactly.

    • @Zach-mw5so
      @Zach-mw5so 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank you I’ve been asking for a while. Hopefully your comment will get enough likes so he can see :)

    • @airellecarol5043
      @airellecarol5043 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Zach-mw5so liked! Hopefully he see this!

    • @DominikEndl
      @DominikEndl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would love to see that

    • @RexOlafusVidulusMagnus
      @RexOlafusVidulusMagnus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @James Bolton exactly

  • @eddiehancockii
    @eddiehancockii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been wanting this for a while! Thanks!

  • @DonPedroTheDude
    @DonPedroTheDude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank goodness. I looked for this chart a few weeks ago and was disappointed you hadn't produced it!

  • @thomasdixon4373
    @thomasdixon4373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Finally been waiting for this one!
    Awesome vid as always, can't wait for more African monarchies

    • @maxpower2592
      @maxpower2592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vlad the Great
      Is/Was Black

  • @omeramitai2593
    @omeramitai2593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been waiting for half a year! Never clicked a video quicker

  • @dawnpicota9115
    @dawnpicota9115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love your videos hope to see many more!

  • @Ardunafeth
    @Ardunafeth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Vladimir is not half way between Moscow and Novgorod. Maybe Nizjni Novgorod, but that's an entirely different city.

  • @JG-my9mj
    @JG-my9mj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos always make my day!

  • @collinssportstalk7504
    @collinssportstalk7504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This video is made to perfection. I always had a passion for learning Eastern European history and I think this is another amazing eastern country to talk about. Good job Matt.

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This one was mostly Jack. Thanks Jack 🙂

    • @clawsoon
      @clawsoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@UsefulCharts One nitpick: Dates for Vasily III appear to be wrong - looks like a copy-and-paste from Ivan the Great.

    • @collinssportstalk7504
      @collinssportstalk7504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jack Rackam has a good voice.

  • @derickgoh5272
    @derickgoh5272 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another long yet great video!!!

  • @nonameuserua
    @nonameuserua 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    12:40 Vladimir is between Moscow and *Nizhni* Novgorod, a different place located a thousand miles away from Novgorod, a fortress and the easternmost outpost of the principality built on the Volga only by 1221 in order to control the newly annexed Mordovia and tax the trade traffic on the river; literally Lower Newtown.
    Back in 1999, the government finally changed the original Novgorod’s name to Velikiy Novgorod, Great Newtown, thus ending this centuries-old confusion. Even Russians mix them up frequently, although the locals never see any links between the two and refer to their city simply as Nizhni or colloquially Nino.
    UPD the very Moscow as a real city wasn’t a thing at the time yet

    • @dralodolitle5420
      @dralodolitle5420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Many don't know the truth between Ukrainians and Russians, this explains the Ukrainian branch and Russian branch very well.

    • @nonameuserua
      @nonameuserua 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      dRALO DOLITLE How? All the cities mentioned are located in modern Russia

    • @user-um1tj5nm1g
      @user-um1tj5nm1g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dralodolitle5420 yea,, ukarians have russian+polish+turcic roots, they look almost same, you never find a difference before you ask one.
      ethnic relatives

    • @dralodolitle5420
      @dralodolitle5420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@user-um1tj5nm1g Ethnic make up is completely different to Russian. Its actually the Russian Princes that Married Monghol, Turkic, Crimean princesses from the East if you follow history you will know this. This is what made Moscow. Ukrainian Rus, Halych and Volyhan were more intermarried with Poles, Hungarians etc.But you are right to this day and age we are all now mixed, there is no getting away from it the diversity is beautiful.

    • @dralodolitle5420
      @dralodolitle5420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-um1tj5nm1g But you need to remember that the Western Early Rus branch is Ukrainian, which existed well before the Eastern which makes modern Russians as the family tree explains. I know back then would have been known as Red Rus/ Ruthenian as Ukrainians as the term Ukrainian was not used. Black and White Rus would be modern Eatern Russians which are Moksha/, who have far more Asian ethnic roots Im talking back then btw not now as we are all now pretty much mixed. I will agree with you that now many Ukrainians are darker which will be to do with Hungarian, Romanian, Polish/ and Lithuanian and Slovak, German etc etc. Russian, Mongol , Tartar, etc etc but we all as neighbours now have a little of everything.

  • @dennisaur66
    @dennisaur66 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the addition of the maps. Helpful

  • @dralodolitle5420
    @dralodolitle5420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are absolutely BRILLIANT,!!!?, thanks for all this means so much

  • @halam899live8
    @halam899live8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video today keep it up your doing amazing job

  • @Gingerbreadley
    @Gingerbreadley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Love seeing the colab always spices things up. Could you do a who would be Emperor of China today?

    • @keithharper32
      @keithharper32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      the Mandate of Heaven would not allow the restoration of a fallen dynasty. So it's whoever takes the throne next (which the way things are going will be the Xi Emperors soon)

    • @SeanHiruki
      @SeanHiruki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Darth Annoying god I hope so. China needs another Han Dynasty or Tang Dynasty. The house of Liu might not be able to come back in to power but China sure as hell could use a family like them

  • @GamesCooky
    @GamesCooky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    It must take a lot of time to make these charts. Very impressive.

  • @allethargic5520
    @allethargic5520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Vladimir the Great also was called the Red Sun. Sad that Romanov rulers got such boring nicknames, their Rurikid predecessors were much more creative.

    • @KomalPatel
      @KomalPatel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The Russians have the best nicknames tho. Moneybag, terrible eyes, big nest.

    • @DmitryNetsev
      @DmitryNetsev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Red Sun is a nicname of prince from tales. Real Vladimir the Saint newer calling "the Red Sun".

    • @Brandonhayhew
      @Brandonhayhew ปีที่แล้ว

      The world got modernized

  • @mctielpresidente
    @mctielpresidente 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    3:35 "She 'subjugated' the tribe that had killed her husband,..."
    "Subjugated" is an understatement. How she 'subjugated' the Drevlian tribe is a story that leads to legends. Let me just say that you do NOT wanna cross St. Olga.

    • @adriennemarierozario6591
      @adriennemarierozario6591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didn't she have the tribe in question essentially burned alive after locking them in a building? Oh yeah & it was said to have been a "heavenly fire" that started the arson.

    • @BiglerSakura
      @BiglerSakura ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, early medieval subjugations weren't mild and peaceful anywhere.

    • @sacredsunofukraine
      @sacredsunofukraine 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That murderou Olga burn my city Korosten( Iskorosten). I born from ashes and was growing up on Drevlianska street in Korosten. Christianity always made saint from murderou.

    • @pelinalwhitestrake3367
      @pelinalwhitestrake3367 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She burned the entire Drevlian city by using pigeons and sparrows.

  • @NorbertSD
    @NorbertSD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    This may be a controversial one, but here's an idea for a future family tree video:
    The Westboro Baptist Church family tree.
    Most of the "church" is made up of just one family (the Phelps family). You could also talk about in a video in that family tree about some ex-members of Westboro and why they left the church (like Nathan Phelps and Megan Phelps-Roper). Just a little warning: It's going to be a very wide family tree. Westboro members have a LOT of children. Fred Phelps had 13 children.

    • @M-CH_
      @M-CH_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Let's not water those weeds.

    • @Crick1952
      @Crick1952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@M-CH_ I agree with you, but am also morbidly curious about this...

    • @hamnchee
      @hamnchee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DO IT

    • @kacperfrontczak1257
      @kacperfrontczak1257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@M-CH_How is a study of a family tree "watering weeds"?

    • @M-CH_
      @M-CH_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kacperfrontczak1257 They thrive on the attention people give them.

  • @kaloarepo288
    @kaloarepo288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Rognega of Polotsk is an interesting figure -there is an 19th century Russian opera by the composer Serov.

  • @ce207
    @ce207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Most of all Ruric was Hrorekr of Uteland, who later ruled in Rustringen, from where "lyudi rustii" of early Russian Cronicles, finelly came to Novgorod.

  • @Zach-mw5so
    @Zach-mw5so 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Some future video ideas:
    1. Bohemian/Czech Monarchs (ending with the first Habsburg, Ferdinand I, as you have a Habsburg video already.)
    2. Who would be Emperor of Mexico today?
    3. Who would be monarch of Central/South American countries if they declared independence from Spain and became monarchies? (Might be difficult)
    4. Any other updates of older videos (I’ve noticed your video quality has improved greatly over the last 2 years. Credit to you.)
    :)

    • @keithharper32
      @keithharper32 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      they did one on who would be Aztec Emperor already. Which if you ask me is the more legitimate claimant to Mexico than either post-Independance Emperors.

    • @Zach-mw5so
      @Zach-mw5so 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Darth Annoying I’d disagree on that because both Mexican royal families have claimants to the throne today. Even if both Empires were short lived

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Great video! I love when you cover this side of Europe. One correction I would like to add is that obviously neither Ivan III nor IV -conquered- reunited all of the original Rus' because large parts of it were under the Polish or Lithuanian rule, including Kyiv/Kiev itself. The Grand Duchy of Lithuania was in many ways a succesor-state of Rus'; Ruthenian (Ruski) was its main official language, the Orthodox Rus elites (including a number of the Rurikid lines) played an important role in the realm and some Lithuanians, even members of the Giedyminid dynasty were asimilating with their culture (that is until the Polish culture gradualy started to have greater influence).
    A good ilustration of that is the great battle of Orsha in 1514, where the Lithuanian and Polish forces under the Grand Hetman of Lithuania Konstanty Ostrogski defeated the Muscovites, stopping them from reuniting some more Rus lands. This event is celebrated today by many Ukrainians and Belarusians and Ostrogski himself was not only an Orthodox Ruthenian but also a Rurikid prince!

    • @serbianstallion8321
      @serbianstallion8321 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can't wait for Lithuanians to come and deny this.

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@serbianstallion8321 Hopefully they won't. I've seen people claiming that modern Lithuanians aren't the "real ones" in the historical sense and I understand why this pisses them off. I want to stress that I didn't mean it that way. I also have seen some Lithuanians being chill despite all that, acknowledging the mixed character of the Grand Duchy and being supportive of Belarusians viewing the same shared legacy as the base of their national identity.

    • @radziwill7193
      @radziwill7193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The fact is that Kievan Rus is a historical term of the 19th century. The country was called Ruska land. And rus is the prince's warrior.

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@radziwill7193 You mean the whole term "Kievan Rus", right? I'm certain that Rus' (with the soft s - Русь, Ruś whichever spelling you prefer, Latinized as Ruthenia) was a name of land (or lands) for much longer.

    • @radziwill7193
      @radziwill7193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Artur_M. In fact, Rus (Ros) was called by foreigners. Rus as the name of the state appeared with the title "Tsar of All Rus" after copying from "Patriarch of All Rus." by the way, the modern name Russia is also a Latinized name from the Romans.

  • @larsmunch4536
    @larsmunch4536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It was mentioned, that Mstislav married a Swedish princess. We could also mention, that their daughters (with the Nordic names Ingeborg and Malmfrid) were married into Nordic royalty. Malmfrid was married twice, first to a Norwegian king and then to a Danish. Ingeborg was married to the first duke of Schleswig, and their son, who was born a week after the murder of his father, and who was named after his great-grandfather Vladimir Monomach, became king Valdemar 1st of Denmark.

  • @berkowk
    @berkowk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Actualy Sviatopolk didn't rebelled against his father (Vladimir the Great), he wasn't even born at that time. And because Vladimir took his brother's wife it's possible that Yaropolk was his father.
    Also some sources independent from kievan rulers (Icelandic saga) point out that it was Yaroslav the Wise who ordered his brothers (Boris and Gleb) assassination by icelandic mercenaries.

  • @Minecratify
    @Minecratify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    "he wasn't a Swede, he was a Rus". Yes true. Becuse no one was Swedish. Rus, probably comes from Roslagen in east Uppland in modern Sweden so he comes from "Sweden"

    • @greninjamastergabe6452
      @greninjamastergabe6452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sweden as a kingdom didn't exist yet, and it still had two main peoples, the Svers and the Geats. The country is named after the Svers, as is the Swedish name of the country, Sverige.

    • @olleani
      @olleani 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@greninjamastergabe6452 *Svear, in weather reports you can still hear them say Svealand, which includes Dalarna, Uppland, Värmland, Närke, Västmanland and Södermanland (Sörmland).

    • @LancesArmorStriking
      @LancesArmorStriking 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Right. Although it's hard to draw a clear line of continuity from one to other, much like there's dispute over who can claim to be the Kievan Rus' "successor".
      The Rus definitely had elements of what we would today classify as Swedish culture, but probably didn't identify as Swedish themselves.

    • @Literally-Brian
      @Literally-Brian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Rus' is just a bastardized version of "Ruotsi" which is the Finnish/Estonian word for Swedes. Swedish Vikings often employed Finnish translators when navigating the rivers of eastern Europe. These Finnish translators used Ruotsi when referring to the Swedes even when talking to other Finno-Ugric and Slavic tribes, spreading the word around eastern Europe. After this, the Swedish settlements along the Volga started to be called "Ruotsi settlements", which eventually became "Rus settlements". When the state of Kievan Rus was eventually created all Slavic and Finno-Ugric peoples started to refer to themselves as Russians.
      So to summarize, there's a distinct difference between the original Rus and the Rus after the formation of Kievan Rus. Before the state, it was just the eastern European word for Swedes, after the formation of the state it was just another word for the general inhabitants of the state, mainly Slavic peoples.

    • @Literally-Brian
      @Literally-Brian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Tom Fury The primary chronicle is a shaky source. It probably got the broad strokes correct, but not the finer details. It’s been proven that East Norse people’s from the area that’s now Sweden traveled through the rivers in Eastern Europe.
      We can go back and forth on whether they were exactly Swedish or not, but they were all East Norse, which was the equivalent to Swedes at the time.
      When it comes to the DNA it proves nothing. The Vikings didn’t make up the majority of a population, they were the vast minority, only existing in upper classes.

  • @emkalina
    @emkalina ปีที่แล้ว +4

    While it's a common belief that Sviatopolk killed Boris and Gleb, some historians claim it was actually Yaroslav's doing.
    Yaroslav's daughter Anna brought a Gospel in Church Slavonic to France which became the Gospel that French kings used to swear their oath. There is a legend that over time the French forgot its origins and started to believe it was writer in mystic angelic language until Peter the Great visited France in the XVIII century and read it.

  • @dralodolitle5420
    @dralodolitle5420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to watch this AGAIN,?, but very much SPOT ON WELL DONE, this explains everything thanks you.

  • @Robi2009
    @Robi2009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Error on 21:50 - Vasily has Ivan's reign dates

  • @helenapalatova4268
    @helenapalatova4268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    There is a literal error: One of Vladimir II’s son is YaropoLk (nor Yaropok) II. Also, it’s interesting to mention, that his brother Yuri Longarm (and also one of the sons of Vladimir II Momomakh)-is famous because it was his time, when Moscow’s name appeared for the first time. Of course, there were people living there before, but it’s because of him Moscow chose its official establishment date as 1147. And just in case I say, that he didn’t have long arms lol, and Dolgoruky means “far-reaching”, and it’s the best description of his politics.

  • @kristoffer-2614
    @kristoffer-2614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Some Rus leaders with their real, Old Swedish and Old West Norse, names:
    Rurik (Rörik) - (first Rus king)
    Sineus (Signjot) and Truvor (Torvard) - (Ruriks brothers)
    Oleg (Helge) - (Kievan ruler after Rurik)
    Igor (Ingvar) - (Ruriks son)
    Saint Olga (Helga) - (Saint and ruler of Kiev)
    Vladimir the Great (Valdemar) - (Prince of Novgorod and Kiev who fled home to Sweden, asembeled a Viking Army and reconquered Novgorod from his brother)
    Yaroslav the Wise (Jarizleifr Valdamarsson) - (first Christian Prince of Kiev)
    Askold (Hǫskuldr) - (prince of Kiev and founder of the first Vikings' state in the Dnieper basin)

    • @rafidarramdhanr3487
      @rafidarramdhanr3487 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow I need more, who else

    • @ded_omlt4934
      @ded_omlt4934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well, names Yaroslav (Yarilo - Slavic god), Mstislav (Mest' - revenge), Svyatoslav (Svyatost' - holiness), Vyacheslav, Miroslav (Mir - peace), Bronislav (Bronya - armor), Vladislav, Dobroslav (Dobro - kind) etc. are purely russian/east slavic, not norse or swedish

    • @kristoffer-2614
      @kristoffer-2614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ded_omlt4934 True👍 There was a lot of intermarrying between the local ethnic groups (Slavs and Finns) and the small amount of ”Vikings” that lived in Kievan Rus (including Rurik and his people). Sooner or later these Norse Vikings mixed with the local slavs and finns and most of the descendents of the Norse ended up being more or less normal slavs/finns with normal, local names. This include the Rurik Dynasti who ended up being more or less normal Russian slavs. So these people having slavic names and culture is not suprising.

    • @amann9963
      @amann9963 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Igor, Gleb, Oleg, Olga - these Russian names come from Old Norse

    • @amalgama2000
      @amalgama2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Prior to Svjatoslav, yes, but after, all names were Slavic (or Greek after Christianization). Yaroslav and Vladimir are Slavic. You may find them both in Western and South Slavic countries. There can be equivalents though German, Baltic and Slavic tribes have had the same Indo-European origin after all.

  • @Cooleatack
    @Cooleatack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would it be possible to have the map show the countries/trade routes and other features you talk about when showing it? I happen to know where everything is, but not everyone might.

  • @Sandra.Molchanova
    @Sandra.Molchanova 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Correction: Svyatopolk was the OLDER brother of Boris and Gleb, and the guys were 14 and 16 years old at the time of their death. They weren't babies, but they were still very young, and that's why Svyatopolk became the Accursed - he murdered not only his brothers but children

  • @explosivereactionstv7414
    @explosivereactionstv7414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Last time i was this early, Helgi wasn’t a legitimized bastard in ck2 yet

    • @abrvalg321
      @abrvalg321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@heberthr.6978 Helgi was either a distant relative of Rurik or miltary commander (Igor's regent). In CK2 game he's assigned as his son.

    • @radziwill7193
      @radziwill7193 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Helgi was Rurik's personal sorcerer. He was called "prophetic" and nowhere is there an explanation why.

    • @explosivereactionstv7414
      @explosivereactionstv7414 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@radziwill7193 to be fair, anything before 1000 ce in some parts of the world is unknown. We don’t even know if Ragnar is a real person or not. After all, most of the sagas that were wet in about that time were completed centuries after the fact

    • @radziwill7193
      @radziwill7193 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@explosivereactionstv7414 Sure. We don't even know very well what happened in the 20th century.

    • @abrvalg321
      @abrvalg321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@radziwill7193 I've looked it up. He was either Rurik's tribesman or brother of his wife.
      But his nickname is unclear as language changed in 10 centuries and chronicles were compiled after christianization.
      There is also a legend that he had been predicted to die by his horse. Only to die of a snake bite (who lived in the horse's remains).

  • @cleopatraanu2203
    @cleopatraanu2203 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting!

  • @QueenY-co7es
    @QueenY-co7es 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love it especially “the big nest” and down

  • @efeningunlugu8109
    @efeningunlugu8109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you make a free chart about Rurikid and the other dynasties? Because I love all your free chart and I want in this video and the others

  • @user-rq5fr1xp9o
    @user-rq5fr1xp9o 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    В ролике увидел две ошибки: 1. Кременчугское водохранилище, на карте, которого в 9ом веке не могло быть. 2. Имя маленького князя было Ингвар.
    Игорь - славянизированный, более поздний вариант.

  • @TatyanaSZabanova
    @TatyanaSZabanova ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Probably some interesting detail is that for most of the described period, the inheritance there worked somewhat differently from the european ways, with the eldest male inheriting (so if a person dies, his brother inherits rather than his children). TBH it was a bit of mix of both, leading to conflicts each generation.

  • @user-wb2tm3hv8w
    @user-wb2tm3hv8w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It is extra interesting since I never learned Russian history is school, but learned Lithuania's history. It's like another side of the coin

  • @thebudd4354
    @thebudd4354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just discovered this channel and love it! Just ordered the chart (very reasonably priced). BTW, my friend would love to see one on the history of Buddhism.

  • @ostapkrynytskyy1550
    @ostapkrynytskyy1550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You should do the Bounty mutineers from Pitcairn Island family tree chart. Would be very interesting.

  • @user-ml7fe9mf7x
    @user-ml7fe9mf7x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Интересно , спасибо.

  • @cosmicaquinas
    @cosmicaquinas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I dont know if you noticed by now or not, but Vasily III has the exact same years of his reign as Ivan III the Great, which seems to be incorrect because of the gap between Vasily III’s reign and Ivan the Terrible.

  • @justrusty
    @justrusty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Vasily the Adequate doesn't seem to have the right dates.

  • @tagalongtoourpast
    @tagalongtoourpast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Khorosheye povestvovaniye, Jack Rackam!

  • @renerpho
    @renerpho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    22:05 Are the dates for Vasily III wrong? I think it should say 1505-1533.

  • @user-so7ri6hy8s
    @user-so7ri6hy8s ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dynasty of Rurykids ruled 862-1598 and 1606-1610 and Vasyliy 4 Shuyskiy is a last member of the dynasty of Rurykids in russian throne, because descendant of Andrey of Suzdal and Vasyliy Kirdiapa who belong to Suzdal branch of Rurykids. And dynasty of Rurykids in the male line still exists!

  • @valerk90
    @valerk90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's Jack Rackam? Now that cleared up a bunch of things.

  • @Ciech_mate
    @Ciech_mate 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, can I mention that I watch your channel on one of my videos please? Thats legal right, I can say, I got this info from a channel I watch in a passing mention right? And are you ok with it?

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, that's fine.

  • @Turalcar
    @Turalcar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    18:55 "...put an end to the system of succession..."
    which you didn't bother to describe

  • @johnvincepontemayor9197
    @johnvincepontemayor9197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you have a pontemayoor family tree chart

  • @corrie861
    @corrie861 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do a chart on major religion timeline through history?

  • @JohnMcIntosh-kg7dt
    @JohnMcIntosh-kg7dt หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Have you a chart for the Hawaiian royal family

  • @kalafinwe5498
    @kalafinwe5498 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It would be interesting if you showed the Serbian dynasty as continued from the Vukanovic dynasty, which itself descended from the Vojislavjevic dynasty.
    It is basically the same dynasty but the name changed every time a eponymous head founded it's own cadet branch. The Nemanjic dynasty was created by Stefan Nemanja, who was the cadet of the Vukanovic main branch at that time. And the Vukanovic dynasty from the Vojislavjevic as well, etc...

  • @linusyootasteisking
    @linusyootasteisking 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    correction: 22:10 Both Ivan III the Great and his son Vasily III have a reign in 1462-1505. Perhaps Vasily's should be 1505-1533.

  • @stevenwilgus5422
    @stevenwilgus5422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Igor (Ingvar) Rurikovich (Røriksen), of Kiev
    878-945
    BIRTH ABT. 878 • Novgorod the Great, Novgorod, Novgorod Land
    DEATH 945 • Korosten, Kievan Rus
    28th great-grandfather

  • @askia8704
    @askia8704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You should make a video about who will be king of Mexico. Some people want a descendant from Agustin I, others want a relative from Maximilian I. However, when Mexico became an independent country, it's crown was offered to Ferdinand VII's brothers.

    • @kingnawaffcv7513
      @kingnawaffcv7513 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Luis Alfonso Romero Vargas that will be a good video

    • @askia8704
      @askia8704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@heberthr.6978 I want a monarchy for Mexico, I'd like an Habsburg king, however I'd like either Maximilian II (Agustin I's greatgreatgrandson) as king of Mexico.

    • @askia8704
      @askia8704 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@heberthr.6978 I know that Mexico's monarch would be an emperor, however I think that having an emperor would be considered as imperialism.

    • @kolomaznik333
      @kolomaznik333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@askia8704 Oh god, the poor brainwashed kid...

    • @vincenzorutigliano5435
      @vincenzorutigliano5435 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He already did. The one about aztec monarchy mentions the European emperors.

  • @Blalack77
    @Blalack77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jeez.... With the bent over trees and tying him to them and letting them go... And that's a pretty cool story how Vladimir chose which religion to follow.

  • @drzarkov39
    @drzarkov39 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    "Ivan" is not pronounced "EYE-van", it's pronounced "EE-vahn".

    • @imokin86
      @imokin86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      ee-VAHN actually. Most names in the video are Anglicised, the actual pronunciation in Russian is often different. And even more different in Ukrainian and Belarusian.

    • @JackRackam
      @JackRackam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@imokin86 Exactly this - it's a name familiar enough to English speakers that it has a standard Anglicized form, and pronouncing it in Russian the entire time would be sort of strange

    • @drzarkov39
      @drzarkov39 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@imokin86 The Anglicised pronunciation of Ian Fleming's name is EE-en, not EYE-an. I think you mean "Americanized", not "Anglicised".

    • @imokin86
      @imokin86 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JackRackam by the way, what do you think, if a native speaker of Russian presents a video on the same topic in English, should they stick to how these names typically sound in English? That is, saying vlAdimir and rOmanov, not vladEEmir and romAHnov. What would sound more natural?

    • @JackRackam
      @JackRackam 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@imokin86 Huh, that's a really interesting question. I think it would definitely make you sound more like a native English speaker, although if it were the case of your own name or a specific other person's, I could see someone wanting to go by their name as it's pronounced in Russia

  • @alexandrugaina6912
    @alexandrugaina6912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can u do a video about the romainian royal family

  • @drevenypribor6144
    @drevenypribor6144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow I have been waiting for this one two thousand years :O

  • @chuck430
    @chuck430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    these are some great nicknames

  • @brandonrus5422
    @brandonrus5422 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you please do a tree on the Bulgarian royal family?

  • @mrXOwarrior
    @mrXOwarrior 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why does Ivan III and Vasily II have the same years for their reigns? Who rules between Vasily II and Ivan IV?

  • @colambu2919
    @colambu2919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    How many The Greats does Russia have?
    Rurikids: Y E S

    • @user-ye8lb7uh2u
      @user-ye8lb7uh2u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not "Russia", but "Rus'".

    • @sael52
      @sael52 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@user-ye8lb7uh2u rus is russia now.

    • @user-ye8lb7uh2u
      @user-ye8lb7uh2u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sael52 No, it's not. Russia stoled this name. Moskow state was named Moskowia until 1721. And in medieval chronicles "Rus'" is the name of Kiev and lands around it. Even in XIX Ukrainians were named "rusyny". But Moskow conquered Ukraine in XVII-XVIII centeries and forbade Ukrainians from using this name

    • @sael52
      @sael52 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@user-ye8lb7uh2u as far as i know you guys were part of russia until bolsheviks takeover. are you saying that before the bolshevics russia started call part of it's territory ukraine?

    • @user-ye8lb7uh2u
      @user-ye8lb7uh2u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sael52 Russian authorities called Ukraine mainly "Malorosya" (Little Russia) in the XVIII-XIX centuries.
      We have lost our state in the end of XVIII, but we have our history. It's complicated and not well known for foreigners, especially not our neighborhoods. And Russia wanted it to be so.

  • @user-jd1du4yd7s
    @user-jd1du4yd7s หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    a mistake was made in the video, the coat of arms of the Rurikovich looks like a golden diving falcon on a red background, here the Jewish-Khazar three-pronged minor is depicted on a blue background.

  • @user-ju8wr6fc9m
    @user-ju8wr6fc9m ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nothing is said about the intrigues of the nobility at court and the poisoning of many members of Ivan's family. About the murder of his son, this is just a rumor that has no reliable facts. But there are facts that all members of the royal family found an abnormal amount of arsenic in their bones.
    And there was a change of mood for a reason. Before that, Ivan had become seriously ill and was near death. Then the nobility tried to put on the throne instead of his son and heir, a cousin who was quiet and who was expected to be easily controlled. Therefore, when Ivan recovered, he abdicated the throne, and when he gained power, he began to persecute noble princes. He initially suspected them of poisoning his mother, his beloved wife, and now when they openly tried to kill his son. while he was lying ill. After that, he began to act.

  • @emuseu2235
    @emuseu2235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you ever take requests? There was another Viking named Tancrede who had twelve sons. These became crusaders and Count in France (Normandy) became the 'De Tankervilles' and the English Chamberlains. I can never find information on this family everything is in French

  • @imokin86
    @imokin86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great job, thanks! Greetings from Russia!

  • @levimcglinchey5843
    @levimcglinchey5843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    7:01 !! The Spanish Inquisiti-oh..

  • @pushkarkumar4898
    @pushkarkumar4898 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is Jack Rackam instead of Matt and where did you find the Vladimir the great photo because I am not able to find it

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ivan the Moneybag in my mind was Scrooge McDuck or the Manopoly Man in a previous life

  • @seanwelch71
    @seanwelch71 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So cool! Take a nap.

  • @OiiRobbi3x
    @OiiRobbi3x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This guy sounds like Mr Skinner from the Simpsons.

    • @dainn0668
      @dainn0668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      His name is Jack rackam

    • @vincenzorutigliano5435
      @vincenzorutigliano5435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Steamed Charts!

    • @OiiRobbi3x
      @OiiRobbi3x 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dainn0668 yeah ive been watching his videos for a while but i just noticed one day he sounds like Skinner.

    • @jvgreendarmok
      @jvgreendarmok 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OiiRobbi3x I thought he sounded more like a Phil Hartman character.

  • @HistoryandHeadlines
    @HistoryandHeadlines 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have Polish and Ukrainian ancestry so I wonder if I could be descended from any of the people on this chart? What is your favorite television show or film about the Vikings or Ivan the Terrible?

    • @aethelfrith7376
      @aethelfrith7376 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Romanovs by StarMedia so far, haven't found any fiction/semifiction by that period that hood enough

    • @Admin-gm3lc
      @Admin-gm3lc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      THE RURIK DYNASTY by StarMedia

    • @ivanivanov1782
      @ivanivanov1782 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ukraine is a by-product of the Bolsheviks. The state of Ukraine did not exist then.

    • @sacredsunofukraine
      @sacredsunofukraine 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ivanivanov1782and you are a product of Vatican! Now, what can you do about this?

    • @PUARockstar
      @PUARockstar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ivanivanov1782 russia didn't existed yet*

  • @prince-electorsnoo2540
    @prince-electorsnoo2540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Whats the source on Rurik being a Rus? Most of what Ive seen says that we dont really know for sure but that he was probably Scandinavian - his heirs name is the russianized version of Helgi, and he practiced Norse paganism

    • @PUARockstar
      @PUARockstar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We aren't even 100% sure if her ever existed.

  • @kaloarepo288
    @kaloarepo288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Haven't watched the whole video so it might have been mentioned but a Rurikid princess (Anna of Kiev) married Henry I of France so is the ancestress of a hell of a lot of European royalty!

  • @thelisapisa
    @thelisapisa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey. Are you shipping to Germany? I wanted to buy the western chart but I need to know if you ship to my country otherwise the police will grab it...

  • @curly6112
    @curly6112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Theres errors on the chart, Vsevold I should be Vsevolod I
    Yaropok II should be Yaropolk II

  • @timonlindtner1818
    @timonlindtner1818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It would be good to see the rulers of Carantania

    • @timonlindtner1818
      @timonlindtner1818 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Levi Charles central Europe, south Austria and Slovenia.

  • @RyeKoo
    @RyeKoo ปีที่แล้ว

    Im just curious: Ivan III and Vasily III ruled at the same time? Or it was just a typing error? 23:12

    • @bar7381
      @bar7381 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i think they ruled diffferent parts of the rus as it was a lot less unified just before and during the mongol yoke

  • @rayzas4885
    @rayzas4885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should've mentioned that it's debatable if rurik existed or not

  • @yashabykhovsky2807
    @yashabykhovsky2807 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yessss

  • @romangonzalez4949
    @romangonzalez4949 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember Saint Olga and what she did to that tribe from a Sam O'Nella video

  • @5ratsastaja
    @5ratsastaja 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Russian Newsweek tested the first two Rurikid princes. The first one was Prince Dmitri Mikhailovich Shahovskoi of Paris, France, the prominent Professor at the Russian Orthodox Institute, who made the 1st Y-DNA test in the Rurikid Dynasty (at the end of 2006). Unexpectedly, he was found to belong to the genetic haplogroup N1c1 - the so-called “Finno-Ugrian”. It was found that Rurik was of Varangian origin (a sub-branch in the N1c1 genetic haplogroup). The haplogroup is most common among Finns. Quite rare among Swedes (unless they have some Finnic ancestors which was not so commong during Viking era). During the Viking/Varangian times the Baltic-Finnic tribes inhabited much larger areas than today ( for eg.present day Latvia and Sweden) and places like Gotland.

    • @5ratsastaja
      @5ratsastaja 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Tom Fury You don't seem to be very well informed about the Viking age history in the Baltics. Even Widsith, Exeter Book mentions Caelic Rex Fennicum (Caleva King of Finns)...and there is lot more from Al Idrisi and Sagas if ones cares to look. Caesar ruled the Greeks
      and Caelic the Finns,
      Hagena the Rugians
      and Heoden the Gloms.
      Witta ruled the

    • @jokemon9547
      @jokemon9547 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Tom Fury Calling Baltic-Finnic tribes "uncivilized" would be quite ignorant and plain wrong. According to archeological evidence, the Balto Finns were on the same level in terms of technology as their Scandinavian, Baltic and later Slavic neighbours. And according to an increase in finds from the 500s to 800s, it is believed that they formed into their own local chiefdoms, not too different from for example Scandinavian petty kingdoms led by regional chiefs/kings before they unified into their own kingdoms. There is also evidence, at least in Finland, that from the 800s onwards, the Finnish tribes had a cultural and societal set back. Less metal, jewelry and other "sophisticated" item finds from this time indicate a loss in population, trade and overall structure in society. And the Finnish tribes did not fully recover from this set back leaving them as easy pickings for the coming centuries.

    • @jokemon9547
      @jokemon9547 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Tom Fury If you mean a unified state or medieval kingdom, then sure. But they most definitely had chiefdoms and semi-states in place with even evidence of an early taxation/tributary systems. Also for example the net of hillforts covering the supposed Tavastian heartlands and protecting a pretty major and vital trade route for Finland, the Oxen Road of Tavastia, would suggest some sort of centralization and cooperation. But I don't see a reason to call them primitive and uncivilized just on the basis that they did not form into a united kingdom that carved itself a succesful history that is known by many like for example Sweden did. And they did repell practically all invasion attempts by their neighbours for centuries, only being subjugated when their neighbours got the support and resources of the European Christian world to fight against the "evil pagans". Must have been doing something right, eh?

    • @jokemon9547
      @jokemon9547 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Tom Fury Well, Finland already had a Christian community for over 100 years before the first Swedish crusade. If Russia and Sweden did not colonize Finland for example and things played out without outside influence, Christianity probably would have overtaken the local religion and a unified Finnish state could have been possible. But this is just one possibility and way to speculate.

  • @Grabovsky85
    @Grabovsky85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:42 "...even a triumvirate, that ended they way all triumvirates do."
    Too much ego with them.

  • @steakismeat177
    @steakismeat177 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think this is a bit of a misconception. The Rus were Swedish. They moved away from the Swedes. To this day the word for Swedish in Finnish and Estonian is Rootsi/Routsi. If you say they weren't then even modern Swedish people aren't fully "Swedish" because of their certainly mixed tribal heritage

    • @overlord165
      @overlord165 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is merely a theory and not a hard fact

  • @MarkusTronsg
    @MarkusTronsg ปีที่แล้ว

    The issue, alluded to several times, was not the appointment of priests, but of bishops.

  • @curtisfranzen986
    @curtisfranzen986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do wish you would have discussed Rurik more extensively.

  • @clawsoon
    @clawsoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dates are wrong for Vasily III, surely, since they overlap with Ivan the Great and leave a gap before Ivan the Terrible?