Good to see you back izzy althought in reality whatever that is you've never been away in the 1st place but yet beyond all this mumbo jumbo of text was nice to listen to this whilst a was out and about doing my job gritting paths last night this seemed to make the journey glide in nicely ❤
Izzy what you are describing I hear a lot from people who have gone through this (using normal/casual language). I'm 3.5 months post-no seeking myself (all in the story of course), and every day I have tension and energy and supressed feelings come out of my subconscious, almost constantly. Are you also experiencing very vivid dreams at night? Apparently these will continue until the subconscious is drained and then there will be no more thinking. Takes about a year or so for most people I think.
I can resonate with everything you have said. Thank you for sharing. And yes to the vivid dreams, too! Sending love to you, my dear friend, as this healing journey unfolds. Take care. Izzy ❤
Chest and head energy here too, it began a few weeks ago with light headache followed by the energy at heart and head. It hasn’t felt uncomfortable, it has felt very natural but vibrational definitely. Seeking energy completely stopped when this began and I saw clearly that I wasn’t the identity when the mind went still and there was the realisation that there was nothing to seek anymore. It’s relieving to say the least because there’s a stillness/calmness instead of the seeking energy that seemed to go out looking externally. There’s a sense of being whole and complete, like there’s nothing to be added, which is rather lovely. Lovely meeting, even if radical! Thank you.
I’ve heard Tony Parsons describe this as being “stunning” but it’s not stunning at all. It’s rather ordinary. Nothing is actually ever stunning. That sensation of feeling stunned is momentary, it appears and disappears only as a description, it is a story trying to described what’s already totally indescribable. This doesn’t need to be described. This doesn’t need to be known to exist as whatever thoughts and stories sound the most believable, as what is already is completely and entirely what is, exactly as it appears …with or without the story what is already is what is. What’s so stunning about what never changes and doesn’t really happen? This is so wild and free it can appear to be whatever’s apparently happening and yet This is not a happening! The ordinariness of what is apparently happening doesn’t need to be stunning as nothing ever needs to happen. If “stunning” seems to arise, whatever that is supposed to mean, it’s really not what it appears to be and is This already which is not an appearances yet there isn’t anything appearing that isn’t This already. Saying it’s “ordinary” or “stunning” is the ordinariness being spoken of here, talking about this seems to happen a lot, yes? And yet This cannot be talked about but everything ever talked about is never not This unknowable knowingness (nowhere to land to say “Aha! I know what this is” except in an imaginary story). 🙏❤️
Sorry to disagree, but what never changes is the consciousness/ the experiencer/ the illusory self. Nothing has no attributes, not even unchanging. What you guys are describing is what’s Rupert Spira talking about, but with the words of Tony Parsons. Good luck 🍀
Hi Izzy, welcome back 👋🏻. Problem with this, and all spiritual and religious messages is, that it can be all just brainwashing one self by constant repetition. There is no way of knowing if that’s not the case. Religious person will tell you as well, that his god is not just a belief, but “ lived reality “. Same with awareness teachings, those people are convinced that everything is awareness, and they “ live it “. All due to constant brainwashing / repetition of something, that they first believed is going to stop their suffering, because some charismatic person / speaker convinced them . This radical non-duality theory that everything is nothing being everything = energy, seems certainly more realistic then all the other religions and spiritual stuff, but it can as well be just brainwashing one self, with sugarcoated phrases like, it’s perfect, it’s whole and complete, it’s unconditional love, etc. , same as religion or spirituality. But if that makes life more pleasant, then I guess why not 🤷🏼♂️. What is discouraging for me, is that the speakers who were around for a while, don’t seem so enthusiastic as they were in the beginning, which makes me think that even this eventually gets old, useless, and you just can’t fool your self indefinitely. Good luck 🍀
@@karlskaret275yes, your comments are not there anymore, i noticed. I guess some people can’t handle the possibility that they may be wrong 🤷. On here you have to select the option Newest, under messages, and then your comments are visible.
You're missing what this message is about - it's about nothing at all. It doesn't seek to brainwash you into a position that can be evangelised or defended because it has no position to defend and doesn't even recognise a 'you'. None of the speakers who talk about this know anything or have a point to make, none of them are making assertions of being correct as there is nothing to be right or wrong about. All they are pointing to is the unknowability of what is as there is no-one to know anything, not that there is a knowing of there being no-one
You're misunderstanding what this message is about - its about nothing at all. The message doesn't intend to brainwash you into defending or evangelizing a position because it has no position to defend and doesn't even recognize a 'you'. None of the speakers who communicate this know anything or have a point to make, and none of them claim to be correct because there is nothing known to be right or wrong about. All that's being communicated is the unknowability of what is in the absence of an individual, not the knowing of there being no-one.
Also your ideas about those communicating this message having to be lively or enthusiastic to be taken seriously seems to come from your pre-conceived notions of what an 'enlightened person' would be like. It has nothing to do with what the message is communicating.
When you grow up you will all realise it's a trick of your mind, none of you have gone through an ego death, your egos are just imagining it. You are all still in ego.
@sophiafakevirus-ro8cc What ego death are you talking about ? The message of non duality is "there's no ego", so how can something that doesn't exist, die ? You don't have to kill the ego you just have to look and see that it is just an idea in the mind!!!
The sharing is so gracious. It is like gentle waves in an ocean. Thanks to all that spoke. 😮
lovely! x
Nice to see and hear you back 😀
Lovely to hear from you, Lieve! 🧡
i have missed you, thought of you often Izzy apparently! so happy to see you again 😊
Welcome back youuuuupiiii❤❤❤❤❤❤
Lots of love Izzy ❤
Much love to you too Matt! Let’s catch up soon for sure xx
Good to see you back izzy althought in reality whatever that is you've never been away in the 1st place but yet beyond all this mumbo jumbo of text was nice to listen to this whilst a was out and about doing my job gritting paths last night this seemed to make the journey glide in nicely ❤
One without a second
I loved this session ❤❤ though heartbroken to see your deep sadness coming and going a few times i feel like being in the same boat and i love you 💗
Izzy what you are describing I hear a lot from people who have gone through this (using normal/casual language). I'm 3.5 months post-no seeking myself (all in the story of course), and every day I have tension and energy and supressed feelings come out of my subconscious, almost constantly.
Are you also experiencing very vivid dreams at night? Apparently these will continue until the subconscious is drained and then there will be no more thinking.
Takes about a year or so for most people I think.
I can resonate with everything you have said. Thank you for sharing. And yes to the vivid dreams, too! Sending love to you, my dear friend, as this healing journey unfolds. Take care. Izzy ❤
Chest and head energy here too, it began a few weeks ago with light headache followed by the energy at heart and head. It hasn’t felt uncomfortable, it has felt very natural but vibrational definitely. Seeking energy completely stopped when this began and I saw clearly that I wasn’t the identity when the mind went still and there was the realisation that there was nothing to seek anymore. It’s relieving to say the least because there’s a stillness/calmness instead of the seeking energy that seemed to go out looking externally. There’s a sense of being whole and complete, like there’s nothing to be added, which is rather lovely. Lovely meeting, even if radical! Thank you.
so beautiful and free that the me cant "handle it" doesn't want it... it not being an "it"
exactly!
I’ve heard Tony Parsons describe this as being “stunning” but it’s not stunning at all. It’s rather ordinary. Nothing is actually ever stunning.
That sensation of feeling stunned is momentary, it appears and disappears only as a description, it is a story trying to described what’s already totally indescribable. This doesn’t need to be described. This doesn’t need to be known to exist as whatever thoughts and stories sound the most believable, as what is already is completely and entirely what is, exactly as it appears …with or without the story what is already is what is.
What’s so stunning about what never changes and doesn’t really happen?
This is so wild and free it can appear to be whatever’s apparently happening and yet This is not a happening!
The ordinariness of what is apparently happening doesn’t need to be stunning as nothing ever needs to happen. If “stunning” seems to arise, whatever that is supposed to mean, it’s really not what it appears to be and is This already which is not an appearances yet there isn’t anything appearing that isn’t This already. Saying it’s “ordinary” or “stunning” is the ordinariness being spoken of here, talking about this seems to happen a lot, yes? And yet This cannot be talked about but everything ever talked about is never not This unknowable knowingness (nowhere to land to say “Aha! I know what this is” except in an imaginary story). 🙏❤️
Spot on!! ♥️
Sorry to disagree, but what never changes is the consciousness/ the experiencer/ the illusory self. Nothing has no attributes, not even unchanging. What you guys are describing is what’s Rupert Spira talking about, but with the words of Tony Parsons.
Good luck 🍀
sensless perfection ❤️🔥🤗❤️🔥
all my LOOOVVE kate ❤🩹
There is only what appear to be happening. No one does this. No one gets this. There is no separation. There is not two.
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absolutely wonderful. bless.
izzy flat hair cloke is back
It is so nice to have you back Izzy. 🌺
Hi Izzy, it's lovely to see you again. I love your sharing so much.
Nice to hear from you, Adam. I hope you are well :)
Hi Izzy, welcome back 👋🏻. Problem with this, and all spiritual and religious messages is, that it can be all just brainwashing one self by constant repetition. There is no way of knowing if that’s not the case. Religious person will tell you as well, that his god is not just a belief, but “ lived reality “. Same with awareness teachings, those people are convinced that everything is awareness, and they “ live it “. All due to constant brainwashing / repetition of something, that they first believed is going to stop their suffering, because some charismatic person / speaker convinced them .
This radical non-duality theory that everything is nothing being everything = energy, seems certainly more realistic then all the other religions and spiritual stuff, but it can as well be just brainwashing one self, with sugarcoated phrases like, it’s perfect, it’s whole and complete, it’s unconditional love, etc. , same as religion or spirituality. But if that makes life more pleasant, then I guess why not 🤷🏼♂️.
What is discouraging for me, is that the speakers who were around for a while, don’t seem so enthusiastic as they were in the beginning, which makes me think that even this eventually gets old, useless, and you just can’t fool your self indefinitely. Good luck 🍀
I got banned and deleted from nondualityfun 😎
@@karlskaret275yes, your comments are not there anymore, i noticed. I guess some people can’t handle the possibility that they may be wrong 🤷. On here you have to select the option Newest, under messages, and then your comments are visible.
You're missing what this message is about - it's about nothing at all. It doesn't seek to brainwash you into a position that can be evangelised or defended because it has no position to defend and doesn't even recognise a 'you'. None of the speakers who talk about this know anything or have a point to make, none of them are making assertions of being correct as there is nothing to be right or wrong about. All they are pointing to is the unknowability of what is as there is no-one to know anything, not that there is a knowing of there being no-one
You're misunderstanding what this message is about - its about nothing at all. The message doesn't intend to brainwash you into defending or evangelizing a position because it has no position to defend and doesn't even recognize a 'you'. None of the speakers who communicate this know anything or have a point to make, and none of them claim to be correct because there is nothing known to be right or wrong about. All that's being communicated is the unknowability of what is in the absence of an individual, not the knowing of there being no-one.
Also your ideas about those communicating this message having to be lively or enthusiastic to be taken seriously seems to come from your pre-conceived notions of what an 'enlightened person' would be like. It has nothing to do with what the message is communicating.
❤ Thanks Izzy ❤
Much love, Julian!
There is no Self, but all you talk about is the Self. 🤔
Welcome back "Izzy" 😕
Namastè ☯️ Buongiorno 🙏🏼
Izzy ! 😊🔥👍❤
It's something indescribable but it's as if they're all consulting the same handbook when they speak. Can't people find their own words?
The message seems so simple and straightforward that I can't see how it could be the same if put differently.
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Ohh izzy i thought you died again😄
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When you grow up you will all realise it's a trick of your mind, none of you have gone through an ego death, your egos are just imagining it. You are all still in ego.
Learning by heart the description...is just that, it doesn't last...of course!
@@agamaanand8968 explain please
@sophiafakevirus-ro8cc What ego death are you talking about ? The message of non duality is "there's no ego", so how can something that doesn't exist, die ? You don't have to kill the ego you just have to look and see that it is just an idea in the mind!!!
@@Felipe-gm6fu oh blimey, it's kindergarten thinking.