Enjoyed every bit of every video, not just the big build, Robin! I particularly liked the king unedited version of the dormer builds. You should include more videos of such nature in your channel 🙏
@@tonygrace4946VAT is zero rated on labour and supply and fit e.g supply and fit of windows would be ZERO rated. VAT is then reclaimable on all materials cost at the end of the project through HMRC.
Finally. Someone with a piece of paper in their hand telling us what it actually costs. More of this please. Massive massive help to us all who are struggling to move forward without knowing realistic expectations!
A great video. I built my own house in Windermere using the same method. ie pay people to do things you cannot do but source materials etc yourself. I did most of the finishing works myself except plastering. It took me 7 years living in a caravan but I ended up with a house and no mortgage and a lot of confidence. Robin I hope this video gives hope to young people who may see life as impossible at present. Well done and well explained.
@@Paul-XCIV2 Yes that is the main problem now in England. However if you want a life change there are cheap plots on the isle of Mull. We nearly did that but have bought a project with building plot in the south of France for £125,000 and just awaiting the 12 month visa. Somebody needs to campaign for cheap land release
idiot. 7 years in a caravan. f*ckin idiot. Pay for sh!t and it gets done quicker. Time is money. You will never get those 7 years back. Others think before you do.
I had to rebuild my bathroom due to previous owner messing up the plumbing, so walls and floors were destroyed by rot and mould. Was quoted minimum 15k out of seven quotes, after rip out and reinstallation of walls and floor. Insurance would only agree to pay out 7k, so took the settlement and set about doing it all myself except for plumber and electrician. Did it all for 4k, with very high quality fittings sourced from ex display. Got a professional tile cutting machine for 500 and sold it for 350 after finishing the job. Did the rip out myself and hired two skips for two days, 400. Rented a van for a couple of days to get all my materials. Went online and found a brand new shower and tray from a builder who had leftover from a job, 125 as opposed to 500. And got trade cards for great discounts on all materials. All the fixtures, loo, sink, radiator, cupboards etc, all brand new ex display, saved well over 1k. If you have a little patience, put in some work, you can save a fortune...it takes A LOT longer to earn your money than spending it
Just remember there are other costs to consider depending on services that need to be provided and planning fees/architect fees/surveys that all vary depending on the site application. We have probably spend an additional 40k on this site to include all the above plus building a detached double garage, and 150m perimeter fencing, and removal of a number of dead trees.
let's be clear there is some F@kery goes there.... £120K?! would we say o this point it would take 5 months for 3 guys of work? Ok so in salary for these 3 would be 60k with no cost of land.... that's not realistic news
@GregNow There we go! there will always be a cynic! This channel is only for positive minded, practical people You could do your build, just to verify costs, as you do not trust anyone! That is one way for you to find out
As an Architect, even we are finding it difficult to keep up to date with costs at the moment. Many subscribers are rejoicing at this current figure which no doubt is very good and huge credit to Callum and your excellent working methods. However, still many expensive items yet to go - kitchen/bathrooms, electrics/plumbing and finishes. Not to mention the cost of the land and all the certifications and planning. I am very interested to see where the total finally ends up. Good luck with it all!
Yes I was thinking the same about the land cost, also architects aren't cheap😊 would be interesting to know as the land with permission can cost a stack
Having just finished a very similar self build in West Sussex with similar costings but had no need of piling etc. Over the past 20 years this has been my fifth build and without doubt the most dificult. Over the past 20 years the regulations for planing and building control have multiplied out of all proprtion. What was not mentioned in this build was pre-lims. Planing fees, architect fees, surface water tests, air tests Cost of services (Electric, water, Fibre Broadband, foul drainage) etc. etc. not to mention self build mortgage fees and interest etc. Would I do it again an emphatic NO! As ever Robin I enjoy your videos, I look forward to the completion video. Perhaps these up front costs could be listed?
Well, how much then??? For the most recent build. I completed a 3000 square feet build with 6 inch block throughout, no framing. All underfloor heating including the garage. £133,000 for the build and £30,000 for the site. Northern Ireland.
@@albertplumb7206 Your bang on. Too many costs left out. Can be misleading as it comes across as a..... "Look what 'you' can do" if you do this. Costs are costs weather part of the physical build or the paper trail. All needs including in the video.
@@ianjohnson1207 I think you will find NI is in the UK.😆 Site did not have planning permission but I was confident although outside the development zone, just, I could get it passed.
You are just the best. I have been trying to soft build for a long time and have been following your work. You have qualities, not to mention skills. Thank you for sharing this has really helped me.
Really helpful . As someone who wants to build a place this has given me a rough idea of costs; I do realise there are a lot of variables that will affect my build when i get to it. Thanks Robin
Robin - I would be really interested in your views on . . . contingency . . . management overhead . . . and . . . the profit portion . . . typically values added. I was recently given a quote for a tiny flat roof which is smaller than 3 x 3 metres square . . of £11,000 I believe it is a 3 day job . . . say £1,000 a day for labour and £1,000 for roofing material . . . total £4,000 Another company with a reputation for competitive pricing has since quoted £4,000. I prefer to pay for a quality job, by reputable, skilled people
Finally someone who is honest and tells exactly the prices and great to break it down. Everyone seems to be secretive when you ask them. Would be very interested in hearing a follow up video on the internals and full costings.
Absolutely brilliant run down of associated costs for this new build, giving people the insight overall of the costs involved with a new build, look forward to another clip thanks very much Robin. 🙂
Remember folks, this is the cost of the materials. You gotta pay the builders...and the gluttonous shareholders, and for that, you need to quadruple the material cost as your STARTING cost. A house like this, obviously, is gonna be waaaaay above that - 3/4 of a million +++ !!!!
I built a 15x4m timber frame annex and a two storey 10x5m extension on the back of my house. I employed one labourer to help but did everything else myself. About £100k total including landscaping and furnishings.
@@NeonXXP I thought that seemed expensive, but actually that is a substantial extension (including the annex). Bathrooms and kitchens are typically the most expensive things to be fitted inside too. Did you get 100% value added to the price of your property, or near enough? I'm stuck in an awkward position in terms of large upgrades, in that I don't believe I can get the value back at sale.
@@lloyd4011 The increase in value to the house is double the investment. But I built it this way to keep for at least 10 years. Moving my dad into the annex and providing somewhere stable for my kids to transition into adulthood. If I was paying tradesmen it would have costed double and not been a viable investment. I had no previous experience, mostly just school of youtube.
I’d buy a house off this guy had he built it. I don’t think I’ve ever considered a new build before either, mostly because they’re notoriously poorly constructed here in the UK with costs cut at every opportunity. But this was a build that conforms to regs, build by a team at the top of their game. In my mind worth the investment.
@@barryford7135 Then factor-in economies of scale, in-house tradesmen & trade discounts on steroids for the big constructors & you'll see that they are actually grifters, not builders.
To that point. Not all building cost. And, before you will start . At least £10.000 will be off your budget. For architect, for building control, Council, ext, ext. Then, digging for foundation. And, he never said about materials delivery cost. Gas, electricity, water pipes. And , always building control officer. Which is cost. Anyway, even you are super- duper and build yourself you need at least £250.000 .
Thanks for posting; fascinating stuff. Hats off to the absolute grafter who’s working night shift full time whilst building and managing a house build project!
Robin and Callum are no doubt exceptional. What is the cost of their contribution? I would imagine having that level of commitment would be a fair cost if you had to pay for it. I am stunned by the cost of the things I do so very well done with this one.
Brilliant a lot cheaper than my family places they built a few years bk similar footprint . You have a new subscriber . I like how you explain this thanks
Costs are well explained but as some have mentioned, the real world costs are likely to be quite a bit higher, especially considering you have to buy the plot! Also, presumably Callum is not paying himself a wage so unless he doesn't value his time or need to eat that should be factored in, especially as you have already said he more or less did all the block work himself and has been full time assisting you Robin. That said, seems good value for whats there and for quality and spec. The last loft conversion I did was around £85k all in and thats essentially a room and a bathroom!
My friend has been building a two storey extension on a gutted out house he bought and I've been going along and documenting it as he's doing all the work himself with his dad. It's crazy how much it all costs and thats with zero labour like Callum here.
Very informative and helpful for a lot of people. I say the mean might work out around £2,500-3,000 per m². Perhaps another £60k to spend getting the house to a basic finish (studs, electrics, plumbing, boarded, plastered and white washed with kitchen and bathrooms fitted). Total £180-200k just for the building which would be good going. Looks quality!!
Thanks for the video Robin. Very good information. Looks like a beautiful house. Makes me want to knock down my 1930's bungalow and start from scratch. Instead, we are going to do a back extension and loft conversion. Hard trying to get a decent architect though. Someone that thinks out of the box and not just stick to what has been done in the close previously. Here in Molesey Surrey, people are buying houses above 3 million and knocking them down to build new. Frightening
I think it's not bad at all in terms of costs and getting to this stage. Although this is a self-build, I presume there is some all labour costs are also being incorporated even if they are nominal amounts for the purpose of the calculations. Agree with some comments, as the next phase will shred through any budget set depending on choices made. I think it would be reasonable to assume at least reaching £300K without the hard landscaping outside.
It probably would if you wasn’t savvy and running the job yourself, shopping around for materials and getting plenty of prices, I know people that are putting 30/40% or even more on materials, plus people are putting in crazy prices so you really have to educate yourself on this, it all takes time and a lot of effort to do, that’s why most don’t, but the pay back in the long term is more than worth it 👍
Owner has put in a lot of hours himself, which is not factored into the calcs. However, fully complete, I wager on less than 2k per sqm. Possibly closer to 1.5k sqm.
So just for an example, I’m a plumbing heating engineer, I also do my own property projects, I’m currently doing a house where the customers are having a lot of windows, one quote was £90k the next £60k and finally then went for one around £40k, so you can see how much money you can lose if you’re not on the ball
Yep as per comments above, if you’re able to PM yourself big savings to be made. Also I guess it depends where it is. A lot of trades are substantially cheaper north of England than London and south east
Very informative video, thanks Robin for putting this together. Also thanks Callum for answering many of the extra queries in the comments. It would be interesting to hear when in the timeline and how your working relationship began / developed. Also perhaps how you knew you could work together and what qualities / vision / and 'non-obvious' skills each of you bring to the project, if that's something you'd consider sharing? 👍
That's an amazing price to get to that stage 😮 For context, my 6*6m extension and full 3 bed house refurb has cost the thick end of £140k Just got carpets to go And back garden And front garden And other stuff It's never ending really and so easy to run out of budget Across 3 floors we have approx 145m2
@James_08_07 it was going to be so easy to blow the budget, even with the contingency we were struggling as the costs really do just run away if you don't keep your eyes on the numbers reach and every second of the build
@emmaslow I'm a plumber by trade, I've worked on a few houses with bespoke, handpainted kitchens, it's an option I'm considering, definitely worth a few trail units.
Great video, Robin. Very informative but also to the point. Really enjoyed watching and learning. Thanks! A refreshing change from some of the waffle available online.
Having built my own oak framed house back in 2016/17 that sounds like amazingly good value I'd spent close to that just in the ground on 81 * 5 mtr piles & concrete ring beam & block & beam floor...
Makes perfect sense to block work it with a double skin if you're going to render/clad it. Alot of money paying a brickie to put a couple thousand smaller bricks up!
That is a very interesting and honest appraisal, kudos to the owners and Callum for allowing you to share the costs. My initial thought was way higher but after you'd said what the cost to wall plate was, I actually estimated the other parts reasonably closely, but I was still over what it really cost. I'm actually a bit shocked at how low that number was (low being a relative term, of course), especially given that it seems like it will perform extremely well on energy efficiency and looks really good.
Well done, Robin.. fair play to callum, too, for taking on his own project. People need to realise, though, if this was built for you, you'd double that cost.
@callumdavies-russell8894 all credit to you mate. If I was closer to you I'd happily help out. It's great to see people doing it themselves. I look forward to further progression and updates.
Fantastic insight and incredibly useful, the video is greatly appreciated. We have just been granted full planning permission for a 4 bedroom detached 280m2 property with detached triple garage with office accommodation above in SW England. The only area you have missed which would be useful to know is the Professional and service costs e.g. Architect fees, Structural Engineers, SAP, Ecology and Bat surveys etc as these are substantial additional costs.
We find that turn key building of a high quality home is currently £2600 per sq m, timber frame can be higher. This figure includes planning costs and regs in the South East. Turn key includes kitchen, bathrooms, tiled ready to move in.
Thanks for the video, Robin. Our dorma bungalow is a similar size. 80 square metres. We are looking at striping the whole of the upstairs and having a prefabricated metal dorma extension with external insulation. Finding a staring point for costings isn't straightforward forward.
Callum is very sensible in having the UFH laid as a floating screed on top of the piled slab. If the UFH pipes leak or need replacing in the future, it will be so much easier to lift the screed, than try to remediate the problems in the slab. With the rigid insulation in the walls, warm roof and ventilated ridge, Callum is building exactly as I would build a house.
Super informative, thank you. QQ, were all the materials bought from UK suppliers, so for instance are the windows and bifolds from the UK. Thanks very much, Steve
Yes all materials are purchased in the UK. Masonry, timber and insulation materials mostly from a single supplier local to me. Doors and windows were supply fit from local.
This is great. I am also a self builder and it is cool how much money we save by project managing and labouring compared to paying a house building company to do all the work for us.
Here in Scotland with stricter regulations we tell our customers to budget a minimum of 2.5k per m2 for a decent finish, realistically it usually comes in at 3k now for a higher spec. The days of 1500-2000 a metre are long gone.
I'm in new Zealand an we just built a fairly simple design, 3bed 2 bath 150sqm house that cost 600k NZD = around 300k pound. trouble is here, in new zealand the land costs more than the build!!!. nice vid
Problem in this country is the cost of any sort of land that you can do a self build on, the South and south east is ridiculously expensive. I want to get some land and do a self build. Ive built a loft conversion and a double side extension from ground up with no formal experience and done every thing apart from electrical work, but boy does it take a long time, especially working full time in the flooring trade. Nearly finished though lol Really great video, love the info 👍
Great video as ever Robin. It shows the benefit of project managing your own self build and being 'free' labour. Bringing in pros to speed things up is also the right move, there are too many episodes of Grand Designs where well meaning and skilled DIYers try and do the whole thing themselves and don't realise the interest they have paid on the loan would have been offset by quicker build time. Price wise in the south east we are coming in at £2,450 per m2 for a turnkey build from foundations through to bespoke joinery - your £2-4k is accurate based on what we are bidding against. It only takes a posh kitchen and bathroom to make a £2k per m2 build a £4k one though - it doesn't necessarily get you a better built house!
One of the keys to the success of this build is the fact we don't have excess bodies on site. Robin and myself are on a very similar wave length regarding the build process and no step has been signed off without being absolutely right/plumb/straight/level etc. This means we never have to go back on ourselves to rectify issues where previous trades might have worked to a less high standard like on a lot of builds I have witnessed. Thanks for the comment
I built a 3 car garage and office 1 yr ago. 22m x 8m. Double skin walls. I hired a digger and dumper cost me £49k....including garage doors. 90mm celotex. 2x brickies for 3 weeks. All the concrete. ...had quotes £265k to £322k. It was 120m in the back of my garden.
class robin, im north east based so everything is allegedly cheaper up here. i worked on an extension a while ago and we managed to get it done for a bit under the £per sq meter prices a lot of people talk about. roof and other joinery done by me and the shell built by a bricklayer friend and other trades as needed. worked out well in the end. be good to see the finished job
Im at £2500 psm inc vat for c 100m2 extension/remodel inc demos, full monocouche (not convinced) new ashp heating and glazing plus new roof on original house. Ive done quite a lot- stud walls, some plastering, fitting kitchen, utility, flooring etx. Material costs are never ending, Vat is painful and cambridge area not cheap.
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Enjoyed every bit of every video, not just the big build, Robin! I particularly liked the king unedited version of the dormer builds. You should include more videos of such nature in your channel 🙏
I meant to say the ‘long unedited version’ of your videos
When you say zero rated vat,is this on materials and labour?
We could do with this in ireland 😮
@@tonygrace4946VAT is zero rated on labour and supply and fit e.g supply and fit of windows would be ZERO rated. VAT is then reclaimable on all materials cost at the end of the project through HMRC.
many thanks very helpful, clear, precise and simple, brill!!!
Finally. Someone with a piece of paper in their hand telling us what it actually costs. More of this please. Massive massive help to us all who are struggling to move forward without knowing realistic expectations!
It will only cost you the same if you have a free Callum and Robin!
That figure Includes Robins labour. I am still working full time (45 hours a week), on night shift whilst building this.
@callumdavies-russell8894
How much did he charge to project manage and cut the roof?
I have project managed. Robin has been around about 10% of build cost. And worth every penny, I must add!
Now try finding a honest builder who isn’t quoting go away prices..
Total is £120,800.
Did he say including land? I skipped
and im getting quoted £80-120k + vat for a double garage with one room above it! Trades trying charge so much nowadays
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@@Illackof course he didn’t, I guess land in Wales or rural Scotland will be 10x cheaper than in South East, so that can be the biggest cost.
@@max99xyeah I got £80k for so gle extension they are taking the p which I told them. It's roughly £2500 /sqm
A great video. I built my own house in Windermere using the same method. ie pay people to do things you cannot do but source materials etc yourself. I did most of the finishing works myself except plastering. It took me 7 years living in a caravan but I ended up with a house and no mortgage and a lot of confidence. Robin I hope this video gives hope to young people who may see life as impossible at present. Well done and well explained.
Nice work! I share your thoughts for young people too!!
I once naively thought self build may be a cheaper route to home ownership.. and then I started looking at land costs hahaha.
@@Paul-XCIV2 Yes that is the main problem now in England. However if you want a life change there are cheap plots on the isle of Mull. We nearly did that but have bought a project with building plot in the south of France for £125,000 and just awaiting the 12 month visa. Somebody needs to campaign for cheap land release
idiot. 7 years in a caravan. f*ckin idiot. Pay for sh!t and it gets done quicker. Time is money. You will never get those 7 years back. Others think before you do.
@@mickpillingHa ha cheap land release. About as much chance of that as a cheap brick layer.
I had to rebuild my bathroom due to previous owner messing up the plumbing, so walls and floors were destroyed by rot and mould. Was quoted minimum 15k out of seven quotes, after rip out and reinstallation of walls and floor.
Insurance would only agree to pay out 7k, so took the settlement and set about doing it all myself except for plumber and electrician.
Did it all for 4k, with very high quality fittings sourced from ex display.
Got a professional tile cutting machine for 500 and sold it for 350 after finishing the job.
Did the rip out myself and hired two skips for two days, 400.
Rented a van for a couple of days to get all my materials.
Went online and found a brand new shower and tray from a builder who had leftover from a job, 125 as opposed to 500.
And got trade cards for great discounts on all materials.
All the fixtures, loo, sink, radiator, cupboards etc, all brand new ex display, saved well over 1k.
If you have a little patience, put in some work, you can save a fortune...it takes A LOT longer to earn your money than spending it
I’ve been searching for ages for a simple, professional, UK new house build cost and this nails it. Thank you 👍
Just remember there are other costs to consider depending on services that need to be provided and planning fees/architect fees/surveys that all vary depending on the site application. We have probably spend an additional 40k on this site to include all the above plus building a detached double garage, and 150m perimeter fencing, and removal of a number of dead trees.
You’re welcome 😊
That would be 3 times that in Australia. For wood only lol. We are being ripped off
@@ukconstruction Awesome ❤ what was cost of 1)Land 2) planning permission and 3) Architects for design??
This is the kind of video we need, from time to time, to set expectations right! 👏👏
let's be clear there is some F@kery goes there.... £120K?! would we say o this point it would take 5 months for 3 guys of work? Ok so in salary for these 3 would be 60k with no cost of land.... that's not realistic news
@GregNow There we go! there will always be a cynic!
This channel is only for positive minded, practical people
You could do your build, just to verify costs, as you do not trust anyone! That is one way for you to find out
@@RI-uv3lm he is not a cynic, but realist. You need to pay people, you need to buy the land before you can build. grow up.
@@PsychoPaul-h3v If you listen to Robin. The figure he quoted was to include labour.
As an Architect, even we are finding it difficult to keep up to date with costs at the moment. Many subscribers are rejoicing at this current figure which no doubt is very good and huge credit to Callum and your excellent working methods. However, still many expensive items yet to go - kitchen/bathrooms, electrics/plumbing and finishes. Not to mention the cost of the land and all the certifications and planning. I am very interested to see where the total finally ends up. Good luck with it all!
Yes I was thinking the same about the land cost, also architects aren't cheap😊 would be interesting to know as the land with permission can cost a stack
Finished cost is going to be double, basically. 250k total excluding land.
Finish including drive and landscaping will be over £300k
Yeah but those costs are easily ascertained.
Looks good has there any drainage and service cost added yet
Having just finished a very similar self build in West Sussex with similar costings but had no need of piling etc. Over the past 20 years this has been my fifth build and without doubt the most dificult. Over the past 20 years the regulations for planing and building control have multiplied out of all proprtion. What was not mentioned in this build was pre-lims. Planing fees, architect fees, surface water tests, air tests Cost of services (Electric, water, Fibre Broadband, foul drainage) etc. etc. not to mention self build mortgage fees and interest etc.
Would I do it again an emphatic NO!
As ever Robin I enjoy your videos, I look forward to the completion video. Perhaps these up front costs could be listed?
Well, how much then??? For the most recent build. I completed a 3000 square feet build with 6 inch block throughout, no framing. All underfloor heating including the garage. £133,000 for the build and £30,000 for the site. Northern Ireland.
@@albertplumb7206
Your bang on.
Too many costs left out.
Can be misleading as it comes across as a..... "Look what 'you' can do" if you do this.
Costs are costs weather part of the physical build or the paper trail.
All needs including in the video.
@@bapsmcginty4782that's crazy cheap for 330sqm 🙌
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£30k for a site, not a chance of getting a building plot with permission in the U.K. for that
@@ianjohnson1207 I think you will find NI is in the UK.😆 Site did not have planning permission but I was confident although outside the development zone, just, I could get it passed.
Fantastic, thanks for a very clear explanation, and thanks to Callum for letting us all hear the costs.
Thank you Robin, this is just what I was looking for as we embark on a renovation of our property. Costs were a lot more reasonable than I expected.
Bare in mind the entire job is barely over half way.
Ignore 120k utter rubbish. Built 2 houses many years back you'll need near 250k minimum.
The government need to incentivise self builds like this more by making the planning process easier.
Awesome, the world needs more Callums! I hope Callum gets to build his own house one day.
You are just the best. I have been trying to soft build for a long time and have been following your work. You have qualities, not to mention skills. Thank you for sharing this has really helped me.
Wow, thank you!
keep them coming, best of luck to Calum, at least he is water tight heading into winter
Good Robin. Will look forward to the next installment.
Well done to Callum as this is exceptionally good value so far.
🙏 Thanks Robin, always a pleasure seeing you here
Really helpful . As someone who wants to build a place this has given me a rough idea of costs; I do realise there are a lot of variables that will affect my build when i get to it. Thanks Robin
Glad it was helpful!
Robin - I would be really interested in your views on . . . contingency . . . management overhead . . . and . . . the profit portion . . . typically values added.
I was recently given a quote for a tiny flat roof which is smaller than 3 x 3 metres square . . of £11,000
I believe it is a 3 day job . . . say £1,000 a day for labour and £1,000 for roofing material . . . total £4,000
Another company with a reputation for competitive pricing has since quoted £4,000.
I prefer to pay for a quality job, by reputable, skilled people
Finally someone who is honest and tells exactly the prices and great to break it down. Everyone seems to be secretive when you ask them. Would be very interested in hearing a follow up video on the internals and full costings.
Great video Robin, the costing element was just fantastic, so good to hear about costing , brilliant mate ,
Thanks 👍
Wow that’s good work Robin ! Well done everyone on the job doing top notch work for a good days pay how it should be👍
Looks to be a high quality home to boot.
Love the house and real cost to build it ,the problem is finding a building plot and the cost of a plot if you can find one.
Absolutely brilliant run down of associated costs for this new build, giving people the insight overall of the costs involved with a new build, look forward to another clip thanks very much Robin. 🙂
Remember folks, this is the cost of the materials. You gotta pay the builders...and the gluttonous shareholders, and for that, you need to quadruple the material cost as your STARTING cost. A house like this, obviously, is gonna be waaaaay above that - 3/4 of a million +++ !!!!
Brilliant insight and fabulous value - thanks for sharing. Patiently waiting for the next one 😎
I built a 15x4m timber frame annex and a two storey 10x5m extension on the back of my house. I employed one labourer to help but did everything else myself. About £100k total including landscaping and furnishings.
That includes three bathrooms and a kitchen.
@@NeonXXP I thought that seemed expensive, but actually that is a substantial extension (including the annex). Bathrooms and kitchens are typically the most expensive things to be fitted inside too.
Did you get 100% value added to the price of your property, or near enough? I'm stuck in an awkward position in terms of large upgrades, in that I don't believe I can get the value back at sale.
@@lloyd4011 The increase in value to the house is double the investment. But I built it this way to keep for at least 10 years. Moving my dad into the annex and providing somewhere stable for my kids to transition into adulthood. If I was paying tradesmen it would have costed double and not been a viable investment. I had no previous experience, mostly just school of youtube.
I’d buy a house off this guy had he built it. I don’t think I’ve ever considered a new build before either, mostly because they’re notoriously poorly constructed here in the UK with costs cut at every opportunity. But this was a build that conforms to regs, build by a team at the top of their game. In my mind worth the investment.
those costs sound very reasonable for that level of spec and finish
Blimey that’s a lot cheaper than I thought?
@@barryford7135 Then factor-in economies of scale, in-house tradesmen & trade discounts on steroids for the big constructors & you'll see that they are actually grifters, not builders.
To that point. Not all building cost.
And, before you will start . At least £10.000 will be off your budget. For architect, for building control, Council, ext, ext.
Then, digging for foundation. And, he never said about materials delivery cost. Gas, electricity, water pipes. And , always building control officer. Which is cost.
Anyway, even you are super- duper and build yourself you need at least £250.000 .
Well done Robin a build with costs included.Look forward to future updates 👏
Definitely some bang for buck there. Thought he’d be like 200k deep by that point!
Yes, I was thinking around 200K as well 😮 Good on Callum and thanks to Robin for the video
would be double if there was an architect pulling their pants down 😂
That seems really reasonable these days . Well done Robin and his team
Thanks for posting; fascinating stuff. Hats off to the absolute grafter who’s working night shift full time whilst building and managing a house build project!
Couldn't agree more! Callum is really working hard for his family, and they also look after us well when we are on site!!!!!
Robin and Callum are no doubt exceptional.
What is the cost of their contribution?
I would imagine having that level of commitment would be a fair cost if you had to pay for it.
I am stunned by the cost of the things I do so very well done with this one.
Brilliant a lot cheaper than my family places they built a few years bk similar footprint . You have a new subscriber . I like how you explain this thanks
Awesome, thank you!
Costs are well explained but as some have mentioned, the real world costs are likely to be quite a bit higher, especially considering you have to buy the plot!
Also, presumably Callum is not paying himself a wage so unless he doesn't value his time or need to eat that should be factored in, especially as you have already said he more or less did all the block work himself and has been full time assisting you Robin.
That said, seems good value for whats there and for quality and spec.
The last loft conversion I did was around £85k all in and thats essentially a room and a bathroom!
My friend has been building a two storey extension on a gutted out house he bought and I've been going along and documenting it as he's doing all the work himself with his dad. It's crazy how much it all costs and thats with zero labour like Callum here.
Very informative and helpful for a lot of people. I say the mean might work out around £2,500-3,000 per m². Perhaps another £60k to spend getting the house to a basic finish (studs, electrics, plumbing, boarded, plastered and white washed with kitchen and bathrooms fitted). Total £180-200k just for the building which would be good going. Looks quality!!
I guess it helps having a good honest builder who isnt going to charge you over the odds.. hard to come by good honest builders.
@@bilpat5123 a lot of builders are con-artists
Seems to be the new build costs these days
Robin you are a credit to your industry, thankfully there are lots of goods pros out there who equally take pride in what they produce! 👏👍😀
Really useful and informative. You don’t get many of these videos on TH-cam so thank you for sharing. Looking forward to see the final build cost.
Very good explanation for new build process and cost build up. Looking forward to the fit out phase 👍
Thanks for the video Robin. Very good information. Looks like a beautiful house. Makes me want to knock down my 1930's bungalow and start from scratch. Instead, we are going to do a back extension and loft conversion. Hard trying to get a decent architect though. Someone that thinks out of the box and not just stick to what has been done in the close previously.
Here in Molesey Surrey, people are buying houses above 3 million and knocking them down to build new. Frightening
Probably work out cheaper and a better build to knock down that way get your vat back
Bungalows are very, very popular this days. So, you will need do your homework before demolishing job.
@@evgeniynagornyak1150 totally agree. We get letters from people in the area often asking if we want to sell.
no nonsense and to the point.. brilliant thanks Rob 🙏
Great video , finally a video that shows transparency about costs.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video Rob, very interesting and informative. That house is going to be a beaut.
I think it's not bad at all in terms of costs and getting to this stage. Although this is a self-build, I presume there is some all labour costs are also being incorporated even if they are nominal amounts for the purpose of the calculations.
Agree with some comments, as the next phase will shred through any budget set depending on choices made. I think it would be reasonable to assume at least reaching £300K without the hard landscaping outside.
This is very interesting, and the house looks quality 👍👏
That’s amazing I would have thought it would have been double
It probably would if you wasn’t savvy and running the job yourself, shopping around for materials and getting plenty of prices, I know people that are putting 30/40% or even more on materials, plus people are putting in crazy prices so you really have to educate yourself on this, it all takes time and a lot of effort to do, that’s why most don’t, but the pay back in the long term is more than worth it 👍
Owner has put in a lot of hours himself, which is not factored into the calcs. However, fully complete, I wager on less than 2k per sqm. Possibly closer to 1.5k sqm.
So just for an example, I’m a plumbing heating engineer, I also do my own property projects, I’m currently doing a house where the customers are having a lot of windows, one quote was £90k the next £60k and finally then went for one around £40k, so you can see how much money you can lose if you’re not on the ball
Yep as per comments above, if you’re able to PM yourself big savings to be made. Also I guess it depends where it is. A lot of trades are substantially cheaper north of England than London and south east
Very informative video, thanks Robin for putting this together. Also thanks Callum for answering many of the extra queries in the comments.
It would be interesting to hear when in the timeline and how your working relationship began / developed. Also perhaps how you knew you could work together and what qualities / vision / and 'non-obvious' skills each of you bring to the project, if that's something you'd consider sharing? 👍
Great video, thank you. Outlines the rough build costs on what looks to be a lovely home in the South East.
That's an amazing price to get to that stage 😮
For context, my 6*6m extension and full 3 bed house refurb has cost the thick end of £140k
Just got carpets to go
And back garden
And front garden
And other stuff
It's never ending really and so easy to run out of budget
Across 3 floors we have approx 145m2
Just win the lottery! Problem solved!! 👍
We were recently quoted £130k just to convert the loft on a 2-bed end of terrace. You’ve done well!
@James_08_07 it was going to be so easy to blow the budget, even with the contingency we were struggling as the costs really do just run away if you don't keep your eyes on the numbers reach and every second of the build
Excellent work as always and really good cost management Robin.
Brilliant video, and great numbers there Robin! Thanks for sharing
That is amazing valve, for what has been achieved. Well done to Callum and the team.
Brilliant Robin, exactly what i was looking for.
That's incredible value. Would be interested in a video on the roof structure design. No steels sounds great!
I have a comprehensive video all about that in my channel
Well done…you’ve really done a good job in getting so much done for that price. We are also about half way through our build…and it’s much more!😱😱😱
I'm currently at virtually the same stage, ICF construction 190sqm in Cornwall approximately £130k so far, kitchen quotes are mental!
I assume you're not going with Wren kitchens. Lesson learnt on my part 😅
@lloyd4011 Not even close to the highest yet! Thinking about tea chest and scaffolding planks, call it "shabby chic".
@@551moleyHow about CNC-cut birch ply?
@emmaslow I'm a plumber by trade, I've worked on a few houses with bespoke, handpainted kitchens, it's an option I'm considering, definitely worth a few trail units.
Buy the cabinets from a local manufacturer, you’ll be surprised how inexpensive they are.
Great video, Robin. Very informative but also to the point. Really enjoyed watching and learning. Thanks! A refreshing change from some of the waffle available online.
Awesome, thank you!
Brilliant video, helps put things into perspective. It's a life goal for me to build my own home.
I think that’s brilliant I’ve been getting quotes of 350/400k for just an extension
Having built my own oak framed house back in 2016/17 that sounds like amazingly good value I'd spent close to that just in the ground on 81 * 5 mtr piles & concrete ring beam & block & beam floor...
Makes perfect sense to block work it with a double skin if you're going to render/clad it.
Alot of money paying a brickie to put a couple thousand smaller bricks up!
That is a very interesting and honest appraisal, kudos to the owners and Callum for allowing you to share the costs. My initial thought was way higher but after you'd said what the cost to wall plate was, I actually estimated the other parts reasonably closely, but I was still over what it really cost. I'm actually a bit shocked at how low that number was (low being a relative term, of course), especially given that it seems like it will perform extremely well on energy efficiency and looks really good.
Thanks Robin. Very helpful. So many don't reveal costs. Well done, looks awesome and helps us all when we get our quotes for similar work.
Always enjoy your videos, Robin
Well done, Robin.. fair play to callum, too, for taking on his own project. People need to realise, though, if this was built for you, you'd double that cost.
Thanks for the comment. It was never an option for us financially to pay a contractor to come in and do the job
@callumdavies-russell8894 all credit to you mate. If I was closer to you I'd happily help out. It's great to see people doing it themselves. I look forward to further progression and updates.
Thank you Robin, appreciate the numbers
This is amazing! thank you for sharing. I can't wait to see how much it costs at the end.
That’s up there in cost but when you have Robin on your side it’s worth it 🤙
That’s so unbelievably reasonable compared to our experience albeit not a new build but a conversion
Fantastic insight and incredibly useful, the video is greatly appreciated. We have just been granted full planning permission for a 4 bedroom detached 280m2 property with detached triple garage with office accommodation above in SW England. The only area you have missed which would be useful to know is the Professional and service costs e.g. Architect fees, Structural Engineers, SAP, Ecology and Bat surveys etc as these are substantial additional costs.
We have spend around £14000 additionally on architect fees, surveys, planning applications, appeals etc.
Foundation unupto roof blockplate - £43,000 (minus VAT) 80sq meters
Roof and flooring with insulation - £53,000 (minus VAT)
Windows and Doors - £25,000 (minus VAT)
Total £120,000 (minus VAT) 80sq meters
Excluding VAT not minus VAT (which would be 20% off of those costs).
Total floor area Inc. 1st floor was 147 sq m.
Great,thats what matters,
Thank you Robin
We find that turn key building of a high quality home is currently £2600 per sq m, timber frame can be higher. This figure includes planning costs and regs in the South East. Turn key includes kitchen, bathrooms, tiled ready to move in.
Its 2000 minimum here in ireland thats outside Dublin Area.
Thanks for the video, Robin. Our dorma bungalow is a similar size. 80 square metres. We are looking at striping the whole of the upstairs and having a prefabricated metal dorma extension with external insulation. Finding a staring point for costings isn't straightforward forward.
you gained a subscriber with this straight to the point video :)
Callum is very sensible in having the UFH laid as a floating screed on top of the piled slab. If the UFH pipes leak or need replacing in the future, it will be so much easier to lift the screed, than try to remediate the problems in the slab. With the rigid insulation in the walls, warm roof and ventilated ridge, Callum is building exactly as I would build a house.
That looks like a nice solid construction.
Super informative, thank you. QQ, were all the materials bought from UK suppliers, so for instance are the windows and bifolds from the UK. Thanks very much, Steve
Yes all materials are purchased in the UK. Masonry, timber and insulation materials mostly from a single supplier local to me. Doors and windows were supply fit from local.
sounds quite attractive, looks good
This is great. I am also a self builder and it is cool how much money we save by project managing and labouring compared to paying a house building company to do all the work for us.
Great great video…we need more of these
Fantastic! This is the kind of video I want to see. 👏👏
Here in Scotland with stricter regulations we tell our customers to budget a minimum of 2.5k per m2 for a decent finish, realistically it usually comes in at 3k now for a higher spec.
The days of 1500-2000 a metre are long gone.
Seems quite reasonable. Looks like a big property and I'd imagine you'd make a good 30% on the value once complete.
That’ll be a £250k all in job cost.
It’ll be a 100-200% return at least depending on location.
@@strud81 did he say how much the land itself cost? Because I'm guessing the land would have been easily £150k
I'm in new Zealand an we just built a fairly simple design, 3bed 2 bath 150sqm house that cost 600k NZD = around 300k pound. trouble is here, in new zealand the land costs more than the build!!!. nice vid
we need more 50m2 homes, and more folk self building them. grand a m2 doable
Problem in this country is the cost of any sort of land that you can do a self build on, the South and south east is ridiculously expensive. I want to get some land and do a self build.
Ive built a loft conversion and a double side extension from ground up with no formal experience and done every thing apart from electrical work, but boy does it take a long time, especially working full time in the flooring trade. Nearly finished though lol
Really great video, love the info 👍
Excellent video and expertly presented. Thank you.
Great video as ever Robin. It shows the benefit of project managing your own self build and being 'free' labour. Bringing in pros to speed things up is also the right move, there are too many episodes of Grand Designs where well meaning and skilled DIYers try and do the whole thing themselves and don't realise the interest they have paid on the loan would have been offset by quicker build time.
Price wise in the south east we are coming in at £2,450 per m2 for a turnkey build from foundations through to bespoke joinery - your £2-4k is accurate based on what we are bidding against. It only takes a posh kitchen and bathroom to make a £2k per m2 build a £4k one though - it doesn't necessarily get you a better built house!
One of the keys to the success of this build is the fact we don't have excess bodies on site. Robin and myself are on a very similar wave length regarding the build process and no step has been signed off without being absolutely right/plumb/straight/level etc. This means we never have to go back on ourselves to rectify issues where previous trades might have worked to a less high standard like on a lot of builds I have witnessed. Thanks for the comment
Great Video Robin, the costs seem reasonable so far.. famous last words, ha. Looking forward to the next video.
Brilliant video, thank you. Me and my wife are looking at a self build but found it hard to cost it up.
Glad it was helpful!
I built a 3 car garage and office 1 yr ago. 22m x 8m. Double skin walls. I hired a digger and dumper cost me £49k....including garage doors. 90mm celotex. 2x brickies for 3 weeks. All the concrete. ...had quotes £265k to £322k. It was 120m in the back of my garden.
Good job, well done! Did you do a Flat roof?
class robin, im north east based so everything is allegedly cheaper up here. i worked on an extension a while ago and we managed to get it done for a bit under the £per sq meter prices a lot of people talk about. roof and other joinery done by me and the shell built by a bricklayer friend and other trades as needed. worked out well in the end. be good to see the finished job
That's incredible! Definitely gives me hope that I might be able to do similar in the future.
That’s a bloody good price 😀
Im at £2500 psm inc vat for c 100m2 extension/remodel inc demos, full monocouche (not convinced) new ashp heating and glazing plus new roof on original house. Ive done quite a lot- stud walls, some plastering, fitting kitchen, utility, flooring etx. Material costs are never ending, Vat is painful and cambridge area not cheap.
Very informative. thanks Robin