excellent video ! I see alot of problems related to " trendy or the latest/greatest gear" syndrome. manifested in two parts, 1) not practiced with the gear, and 2) cr*p designs that are not intuitive, i.e. bizarre weight retention systems , too many complex computer issues. Ive never run myself ooa in 39 years, but ive seen it several times in the last few years, with fancy integrated air computers no less. I must agree in more training and knowledge is a good thing, but I am meeting more and more divers with deep, rescue, tech, side mount, DM, and ask them how many dives.... " I have almost 40 !!!!! " yep.
We are relatively new too diving, roughly 1 and a half years now, we have done the usual open water, advanced, nitrox, and now dry suit. When I am under the water I constantly check my gauge for air, it’s just very natural, I don’t want to die..... We have recently both bought the D5 watch and every dive we log onto the app, and write down weight, under suit, dry suit/ wet suit etc. We are learning our dry suit diving at wrasbury in the UK, a cold water lake,. we’re up to roughly 20 dives and are planning a seal dive in UK waters, but not until we are 100% ready and happy we can dive properly. So these fatalities are surely caused by overconfidence? Or bad planning?
about the story where the bouency comnpensator of the one diver was not connected properly something simular happend to me the other day i was down at 5 meters lukely on a platform so nothing happend but i tried to inflate my bouency compensater and it did not work hoever just seconds erlyer it worked on the surface and even after submersing before going in the water i checked evrything. after realizing that it did not work i searched for the proplem the inflator hoese from my air tank to my bouency compencator came undone i was able to reconnect it i thing it either got undone becaus it got stuck somewehre on my jackred or it was never connected all the way
@gargy2002 what u say is true . But with a dive plan u know what u up to, with that said . Some people drink up that air i,ve see a man go through the whole 200 bars in 15 minutes , that,s crazy breathing huh😓😓
Bday case study reminds me of the in flight instruction in case of emergency put O2 mask on oneself not your child, wife, etc bc your no use unconscious & the only remarkable thing is the diver out of air saved his friend bc otherwise 3 fatalities in stead of 2 would have resulted. Imo reg cert's & open water advanced certification is underwhelming. In all branches of military were put through drown proofing which is rough but some level should be required bc it's mind blowing how many ppl have a very small problem that ends up creating a cascading event not like this case where running out of air while stupid isn't huge given 2 buddies but not understanding equipment is big & not only does it take out the compromised diver it also kills there buddy bc they've never dealt with this issue nor have they ever had any stress/panic inducing scenario. But bc of the $$$ that diving creates the entry level to the sport is laughably low. The other end of spectrum is born out in stats with huge chunk of fatalities coming from complacency & over confidence which like overweight divers are putting themselves in extreme danger.
I think many people don’t know how to use their equipment because it’s rental gear. My wife and I decided that with a sport like this we would buy all of our own equipment so that we would be comfortable training and using it. This is probably not the sport to get into if people are worried about the cost because a majority of our kit is not sports equipment it’s life support equipment.
A lot of the blame for overwaiting has to do with the training people receive.It's easier to train them if they're sitting on the bottom.The easiest way to get them to the bottom is to overweight them
Assuming your tank level instead of checking it would be not following predive procedures. Combine a half-empty tank with delayed SPG checks, and running out of air becomes a very real possibility.
There is a saying in EMS “ they aren’t dead until they are warm and dead” of course this is circumstantial but it does have to do with diving.
excellent video ! I see alot of problems related to " trendy or the latest/greatest gear" syndrome. manifested in two parts, 1) not practiced with the gear, and 2) cr*p designs that are not intuitive, i.e. bizarre weight retention systems , too many complex computer issues. Ive never run myself ooa in 39 years, but ive seen it several times in the last few years, with fancy integrated air computers no less. I must agree in more training and knowledge is a good thing, but I am meeting more and more divers with deep, rescue, tech, side mount, DM, and ask them how many dives.... " I have almost 40 !!!!! " yep.
We are relatively new too diving, roughly 1 and a half years now, we have done the usual open water, advanced, nitrox, and now dry suit.
When I am under the water I constantly check my gauge for air, it’s just very natural, I don’t want to die.....
We have recently both bought the D5 watch and every dive we log onto the app, and write down weight, under suit, dry suit/ wet suit etc.
We are learning our dry suit diving at wrasbury in the UK, a cold water lake,.
we’re up to roughly 20 dives and are planning a seal dive in UK waters, but not until we are 100% ready and happy we can dive properly.
So these fatalities are surely caused by overconfidence? Or bad planning?
Why couldn't they ditch the BCD for the out of air diver in this case?
thats a good question
about the story where the bouency comnpensator of the one diver was not connected properly something simular happend to me the other day i was down at 5 meters lukely on a platform so nothing happend but i tried to inflate my bouency compensater and it did not work hoever just seconds erlyer it worked on the surface and even after submersing before going in the water i checked evrything. after realizing that it did not work i searched for the proplem the inflator hoese from my air tank to my bouency compencator came undone i was able to reconnect it i thing it either got undone becaus it got stuck somewehre on my jackred or it was never connected all the way
Always do your pre dive and buddy check, plan your dive , dive your plan.
@gargy2002 what u say is true . But with a dive plan u know what u up to, with that said . Some people drink up that air i,ve see a man go through the whole 200 bars in 15 minutes , that,s crazy breathing huh😓😓
@@alvinjoseph8724 that's fast!! How deep was he?
Bday case study reminds me of the in flight instruction in case of emergency put O2 mask on oneself not your child, wife, etc bc your no use unconscious & the only remarkable thing is the diver out of air saved his friend bc otherwise 3 fatalities in stead of 2 would have resulted. Imo reg cert's & open water advanced certification is underwhelming. In all branches of military were put through drown proofing which is rough but some level should be required bc it's mind blowing how many ppl have a very small problem that ends up creating a cascading event not like this case where running out of air while stupid isn't huge given 2 buddies but not understanding equipment is big & not only does it take out the compromised diver it also kills there buddy bc they've never dealt with this issue nor have they ever had any stress/panic inducing scenario. But bc of the $$$ that diving creates the entry level to the sport is laughably low. The other end of spectrum is born out in stats with huge chunk of fatalities coming from complacency & over confidence which like overweight divers are putting themselves in extreme danger.
I think many people don’t know how to use their equipment because it’s rental gear. My wife and I decided that with a sport like this we would buy all of our own equipment so that we would be comfortable training and using it. This is probably not the sport to get into if people are worried about the cost because a majority of our kit is not sports equipment it’s life support equipment.
A lot of the blame for overwaiting has to do with the training people receive.It's easier to train them if they're sitting on the bottom.The easiest way to get them to the bottom is to overweight them
This presentation is fantastic! It is from 2013. Any more recent one?
Eduardo Martins Well still very informative though! Nah most fatalities is because they neglect to recheck their gear and being stupid.
what has running out of air got to do with not following the predive-ritual?
Assuming your tank level instead of checking it would be not following predive procedures. Combine a half-empty tank with delayed SPG checks, and running out of air becomes a very real possibility.
as much as i have been diving in the keys and in maui hawaii ..... it is hard to believe that people actually die in this basically simple sport !