The Future of 80% Lowers Comes Down to This
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- The future of unfinished frames and receivers, or 80% lowers, or paper weights, whatever you call them, is at state this fall. Washington Gun Law President, William Kirk, discusses the matter of Garland v. VanDerStok, an already successful challnege to ATF's rule on frames and receivers that suddenly found the ATF believing that it had the authority to regulate chunks of aluminum and polymer. But as wordy as the challenge is, it really is quite simple. So today, we break it down that that most simplest of equations so that you can arm yourself with education.
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My truck is made of steel, aluminum, and various plastics and therefore can be readily converted to a firearm. Clearly, ATF governs trucks. As you can see, I am the perfect legal mind for the job of Attorney General.
Or a weapon of mass destruction!!
Vehicular assault
Ah, truck violence!, we must regulate this😂
A truck is a 2 ton land torpedo. It is clearly a firearm.
@@robertbeloit333 they might start doing it in Europe
So by that definition, Suppressors are not "firearms". So why are they still on the NFA and being "regulated" by the ATF?🤔
I've been screaming the same thing for over a year now
Same deal with bump stocks and pistol braces. Looks like we're gonna win on those, but still...
'Cause a bunch of jackbooted socialists have fear, attitude and better firearms.
Alternatively, because a supressor is not an "arm" it receives no protection from the second amendment...
@@rickinmi If it's not an "arm" why is the Bureau of Firearms regulating it? Is it alcohol? Is it tobacco? Is it an explosive?
When I grow up, I dream of moving to America, from Illinois.
You'll never grow up
I left that communist state in 09 to Missouri where I carry my Glock everyday without a permit.
Same here but in California
Same here in washington
Nobody wants to really fix the actual issue:
"Shall not be infringed." & "Necessary to the security of a free state "
Half-A'd efforts yeild Half-A'd results.
Exactly. They pursue the exact OPPOSITE of what the 2nd amendment enumerates, they want an unsecure state that can easily be controlled by tyrants because they ARE the tyrants the 2nd amendment secures us against.
Those people who ignore those two statements are the ones who argue it was only intended for militias or the military. In regards to the former, lots of states like WA have clauses in their state constitutions that bans citizens from forming militias.
@@SPlongboards well now... you need to get your history correct... the second amendment is not for your personal firearms and never has been.... Yes I am a Proud defender of the Second Amendment....
Aymette v State 1840 "The words "bear arms," too, have reference to their military use, and were not employed to mean wearing them about the person as part of the dress." and "A man in the pursuit of deer, elk, and buffaloes might carry his rifle every day for forty years, and yet it would never be said of him that he had borne arms; much less could it be said that a private citizen bears arms because he had a dirk or pistol concealed under his clothes, or a spear in a cane."
Aymette v State, Justice Green was absolutely correct when he said "As the object for which the right to keep and bear arms is secured is of general and public nature, to be exercised by the people in a body, for their common defence, so the arms the right to keep which is secured are such as are usually employed military equipment. "
Why did he make that statement??? "If the citizens have these arms in their hands, they are prepared in the best possible manner to repel any encroachments upon their rights by those in authority. "
Aymette v State "A man in the pursuit of deer, elk, and buffaloes might carry his rifle every day for forty years, and yet it would never be said of him that he had borne arms; much less could it be said that a private citizen bears arms because he had a dirk or pistol concealed under his clothes, or a spear in a cane."
So the Bruen test nullifies the NFA and the GCA all together, these attorneys know this and will never actually go after them... if they did the money would dry up quickly....
History and Tradition show the arms protected were the arms the Militia had and that they were the same types of weapons the military had... the self same arms when a man turned 18 was required to go out and purchase so that he is prepared for muster, training and war when need be... And the Text of the second amendment as was understood to mean by those who wrote and ratified it, you can find in the Declaration of Independence, Websters 1828 dictionary and Black's Law Dictionary....
1828- Arms - 1. Weapons of offense, or armor for defense and protection of the body. 2. War; hostility. 4. 4. In law, arms are any thing which a man takes in his hand in anger, to strike or assault another. (Sire arms are such as may be charged with powder, as cannon, muskets, mortars, etc.
A stand of arms consists of a musket, bayonet, cartridge-box and belt, with a sword. But for common soldiers a sword is not necessary."
Black's Law dictionary- Arms- Anything that a man wears for his defense, or takes in his hands, or uses in his anger, to cast at or strike at another.
All said and done, the NFA and the GCA are rendered null and void....
To Further Solidify what the Second Amendment is for, I direct you to the Declaration of Independence.
"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
Learn your History and more importantly learn the founding documents...
What Protects your personal rights, your Unalienable Rights, is this, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
That is the short and skinny of the true meaning behind the Second amendment...
The Bliss case was the first one, that I have found, that tried to make it mean something else....
I am sorry but the Second Amendment protects our right to make a stand against a tyrannical and oppressive form of Government... Which 99% of people who want the protection of the second amendment will just sit by and do nothing...
The Courts aren't helping as the anti gunners ignore their rulings...
@@SPlongboards The militias are state entities controlled by the Governor. People can create gun sports clubs and do whatever they want, and when the states prohibit that, they should go to court and, hopefully, win in the Supreme Court. But the people cannot create random militias. Those clubs they do make are not militias. Militias are, as stated in the Constitution, "the militias of the various states", not of the various bunch of random rednecks.
@@SPlongboards Too bad for WA that every (male) 17 to 45 is already in a militia voluntarily or otherwise by federal law.
If they win the argument that items that can readily be converted to firearms parts fall within their ability to enforce, that would open the door to them seizing 3d printers, scrap metal, bits of wood, any tubing or pipes that can withstand even a little pressure, heck even nails and rubber bands that could be used as parts for a firing pin. I get that the ATF is afraid of everything, but that's precisely why they need to be reined in, they're too scared to do their job correctly and would rather kick in someone's door because they think they're breaking a law than fix the overreach and give up some of their authority that they've wrongfully obtained.
By the alphabets boys logic. I pointed my finger with my thumb up, now I'm a felon
Americans have been able to build their own guns since before the Revolutionary War! Pho cough.
Homemade firearms are in common use!@
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Even 100 years before the Revolutionary War.
Loved your last sentence 😁
Heil Covid! *clicks boots
Blocks of alluminum are now illegal.
But what is a woman?
@kimmichaels899 Obviously a block of aluminum.
Especially if it weighs a few tons.
I got to warn my metal supplier
😂😂😂 this is spot on with the deep state can’t even say what a women is but wants to tell us about firearms when on national television they can’t even operate a firearm I know felons with better gun control than them at the end of the day it’s all about brain cells and intentions not feelings and the democrats have no brain cells or good intentions all they want is is corruption and ignorance.
Behind enemy lines in Washington state and ATF should be disbanded
Disbanding ATF is useless… just hinders enforcement. Need to rescind the NFA and GCA as objectively unconstitutional.
The Republican Party won’t part ways with NFA and GCA. Good luck
Spent a few months in the Bellingham area running boats. Prettiest place ever. I wanted to move there until I figured out the Libtard politics.
Won’t go back!
@@jamesvanwinkle7775 we need a movement of a LOT of reasonable, normal, centered and Conservative people moving here. This state has tons of beauty and resorces being wasted by overly left politics.
A Frame or Receiver is Not a firearm, It Is a Part. Prove me wrong.
they have serial numbers and scary model numbers and are therefor fully automatic unaliving machines
@@dethw1shthat re tarded.
@@dougied3449 Ye
@@dethw1shreceivers have the capability of firing 5000 clips a second
It's not even a "part". It's a lump of metal or plastic. PERIOD.
It’s our god given right to build a gun
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Do u even cannon bro! 😂😂😂
you have the right to bare arms any arms the Government sees fit for most people to feel safe but the act of contrition too the amendment's put forward provide laws we govern each other with but some bureaucrats go far past there legal authority , to temper peoples want over need .
Build, buy sell, resell, destroy, modify... As it has been since ancient times.
Must've missed that passage in the Bible. I think that's why the founders wrote the Bill of Rights.
Love FPC. They just keep winning and winning and winning. They should be called Freedom Policy Coalition.
Vermont for no good reason has just banned homemade firearms that are currently in common use!! Does anyone feel safer since most criminals file serial #s off.They do not make their own guns...
The vast majority of crime in Vermont is drug related. Vermont is beautiful but the politicians are tyrants.
#CantStopTheSignal
All you need is a 3D printer. They will never stop us.
Rent a storage locker and make it there. Now it is not homemade.
Also, why are they fighting 80% lowers so hard? Because they can't know who has them... no serial number means not in their R E G I S T R Y!!!!
You can get a CNC machine for less than a smith and wesson... you definitely cant track that.
@@Jake-777-7 I would love to know where?? Cheapest I've heard is about $2500
@@charlescarmichael1124 You don't need one for metal... Purchase a Prusa MK4 and print off P80s which are PLA anyways. There is NO RULE that ARs have to be cast iron or aluminum. The ARs people are using made of PLA are working perfectly. Of course, there are the parts that should be metal like the upper, BCG, TG, barrel, roll pins and springs etc.
There's even a company that sells a molding device and you can pour epoxy into it. When it dries in a few minutes, you unscrew the mold and pull out your AR lower.
Let me know if you have any questions regarding 80%, 0%, 3D printers and general manufacturing.
Exactly 🖕🏻 4473 👻
That's just the thing. It is illegal for them to keep a registry longer than 48 hours after the approval on a completed background check and the purchase.
There is NO LAW against manufacturing your own firearm, period. This is why I LOVE my 3D printer. I print off P80 lowers (Glocks) all day long. I have printed as many as 13 in one day using my Prusa MK4. Same thing goes for AR lowers. PLA+ works fantastically for AR lowers and the 3D printer prints off perfectly good buttstocks and magazines just as well. Anything from grips, rail accessories, you name it. The ATF would LOVE me if they knew what I was making.
It has ALWAYS boiled down to semantics when the a t f is involved.
i love watching a lawyer tip toe around youtubes terms, im sorry that you have to, but you do it well.
According to the ATF's interpretation of the law ,a solid block of T 7075 aluminum would be considered a firearm. The real question is the meaning of " easily" converted to..... I look at it like this, if I order 75,000 dollars worth of plywood, 2x4's , sheetrock, nails and shingles does that constitute a building that the city can now tax as such. No!
7075-T6 Aircraft Grade Aluminum ? Titanium is what you want because it's not Thermally Conductive. You laugh, I got deported for lying to an Air Force Recruiter... 🇺🇲🥶
@@3DLasers That is how you can tell it is me when SHTF. I'll be the one towing an SR-71 blackbird behind me down the road. All that titanium gives me a semi just typing this.
the word is 'readily'.
The ATF lawyers and the AG are definitely NOT the brightest of lawyers.
They're not stupid, they just have an agenda that doesn't mesh with the Constitution.
The truth is not on their side, which is the definition of stupidity.
No amount of facts can change their beliefs, which is the definition of psychosis.
maybe not, butt they still want to CONTROL you.
I have a bunch of steel and aluminum that can be melted down, machined, heated treated, and finished using any number of methods.
Using the ATF’s argument as it is written, anything and everything can be converted. Including cars, boats, homes, trees, and bicycles (list is not all inclusive) should be regulated and possibly outlawed by the ATF (he said speaking facetiously)
Don't forget aluminum pop cans.
I don’t feel this is a facetious argument it seems like making dumb overtly hypocritical laws through established systems repeatedly should probably be what is illegal…
@Washington Gun Law Congress has no authority to let the atf regulate anything. The 2nd amendment is not a permission slip for the citizens it is a restriction on the government. This entire issue of the 2nd amendment is being approached from the completely wrong premise.
First from CA. That was a tough ad spot.😅
Big win for us in the circus for us yesterday 🙌 😊
So, does this mean that the ATF can regulate Bic pens, paper clips, and or rubber bands? These items can be used to fire a 22 caliber round.
Shhhhhhh! don't give them any ideas!
@@robertlawson698 😹
Soon we won’t be able to buy pipe, pipe fixtures and nails. A functioning firearm can be created cheaply and quickly when the proper knowledge is applied. It will be like trying to buy Sudafed. Lowe’s, Home Depot et. al will have to keep basic construction supplies behind the counter.
The USSC just needs to affirm the 2nd amendment, The right of the people to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed. NOWHERE does it say guns, uppers, lower's, barrel length, accessories, simply arms. "Firearms of the day were hand built, and usually a 'custom' job. If you had one, odds were very good that it was essentially unique." So home made guns or guns made on small scale by local people was a common source of manufacture. There was no colt, that was a hundred years later. This all complies with Brewin only the government doesn't want us to know or believe that. They want us to think the only way to make a gun is buy one from some large company with all the licensing and compliance and tracking but that is NOT in the tradition and certainly doesn't comply with Brewin.
16 am jur 2d, sec 177 late 2d.sec 256
According to 16 American Jurisprudence 2d, Section 177 late 2d, Section 256, any statute passed by legislators must be in agreement with the U.S. Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land. If a statute violates the Constitution, it is invalid and considered void.
Key Principles
Statutes must conform to the Constitution: Any statute that contradicts the Constitution is superseded by it.
Void from inception: An unconstitutional statute is invalid from the moment of its enactment, not just from the time a court declares it unconstitutional.
No duties, rights, or justification: Such a statute imposes no duties, confers no rights, and provides no justification for any acts performed under it.
I have so much respect for you guys but also have a problem understanding why the Government has such a problem with their understanding of "Shall Not Be Infringed"!
Years ago during the run up to the 86 NFA transferable shut down a certain manufacturer cut blocks of steel from a length of bar stock and serialized every block then sent off form 4 paperwork for each "receiver to the ATF.
Needless to say when ATF rolled into their shop and inspected the "receivers" they said "nope" and canceled the paperwork i think it was over 200 "receivers".
And if that company had started machining operations on those receivers ATF might have said okay finish them.
Thanks for that summary Mr. Kirk.
Let's take a different direction with this. By definition, a modern weapon is NOT a firearm. They do not use an "explosive." They use a propellant. Black powder is an explosive and is, therefore, by definition within the scope of the statute. This could get very interesting.
I've wondered about this. Great point.
Well now so the prime and gunpowder do not make an explosive????....lol... Wow because the weapons of the founding fathers had primers and gunpowder... Interesting how people do not even try to make a valid point @kmorris180
@ThePatriotSledgehammer-u3r It is interesting how you didn't, yes. The founding father's weapons had FFFF POWDER in the pan. That's black powder, an explosive. As opposed to the aforesaid modern powder. The ignition method is not mentioned in the text of the description in the law. It is, therefore, a moot point.
@@kmorris180 My point was absolutely clear even started out with a question you decided you were going to ignore.... Black powder is gunpowder, regardless what you try and claim... it still explodes.... lol.... you are not doing so well when you decide to tap dance around the question hoping no one notices....
@@kmorris180 I am digging this as well... let me rephrase the question here... are you saying that modern gunpowder is not an explosive??? Yes my point was made as clear as day, you just chose to try and rationalize you argument while shooting it down at the same time...
You are not doing so well here my friend....
You know that you are caught because the second you say "No it is not an explosive" you are then forced to explain how it is not an explosive... At that point you will eventually make the point that it does explode thereby making your original argument moot, and making yourself look bad in the process....
You will not say that modern Gunpowder is not an explosive outright....lol... The moment you do, your argument become irrelevant...
are you saying that modern gunpowder is not an explosive??? yes or no
Congress has no power to regulate firearms pursuant to how the Constitution is worded currently. The plain text of the Constitution reads “Shall Not Be Infringed”. Whether people like it or not that’s what the Founders decided. That “Shall Not Be Infringed” wording applies to Congress. Now, the Constitution can be amended but that, thankfully, is a much more involved process than passing legislation.
Founders knew what they were doing . They knew tyrants don't bother with writing laws. So congress shall write no law wouldn't suffice.
Yes, exactly... but don't forget that the 14th Amendment specifically applies the Bill of Rights against state governments, as well (including the 2nd Amendment), via its _privileges and immunities_ clause, which is a direct reference to the BoR.
The 14th Amendment was ratified in response to Democrats passing all kinds of laws that only applied to Black people, after they were forced to free their slaves, when they lost the Civil War. _Of course_ Democrats didn't want newly freed Black people to be able to own guns... Turns out, it's still the same Democrats who are trying to disarm American citizens, unconstitutionally. Evil never stops.
I guess as an automotive mechanic that stocks oil filters in my shop, I'm in possession of over a thousand unregistered suppressors since they could " readily be converted " to a functioning suppressor. Yes if it sounds stupid it's because it is.
I didn't think the ATF could make rules anymore. Why doesn't Chevron Deference come into play?
Because believing the supreme court has any real authority is comedic 😂 they have no enforcement arm and any judgement they make can be ignored without one.
I can not wait for Home Depot to be an FFL.
You can get PWA Commando AR-15's at ACE Hardware in Colorado. ACE THE HELPFUL HARDWARE PLACE... 🎸😃
Home Depot in California would be GREAT. 100% COLT... 😃
FPC also highlighted that gun parts were restricted under the original GCA, but when they updated it later (in the 80s I think?) congress explicitly removed those restrictions
The magician has convinced the crowd that the mere utterance of ‘abaracadabara’ rescinds inalienable rights.
America Citizens always had the right to build their own firearms.
Weird. I thought it came down to my machining skills, vertical cnc mill, and cnc lathe.
Fun being one of those people, isn’t it? I’m waiting for the ATF to confiscate my brain.
The ATF has no idea on how long it takes to mill and drill an 80% lower. Especial with a drill press instead of a CNC machine.
It took me several hours with my expensive drill press and compound table to do each one. And using special milling bits for aluminum.
A drill press is NOT a milling machine, they do not have thrust bearings and do NOT like the work moving horizontal.
I had to take it slow with a 3/8" HSS plunge mill bit to mill out the FCG area.
It is a very simple issue that Garland is too simple minded to understand. It is our RIGHT as humans to build our own arms without limitations and without government interference. SCOTUS needs to just put out a flat vacate order on all ATF regulations that impact the Constitutional rights to own, build, or purchase, any arms and accessories (accoutrements) that we desire to have.
Excellent point, an unfinished frame or receiver cannot expel a projectile via a small explosion.
My understanding of making ready or readily converted to expel a projectile is the loading of ammo into the gun. Everytime I've been in a training class the instructor says make ready which has always meant load the gun.
In my Canadian opinion winning this will stop the ATF from raiding metal markets claiming they are Arms Dealers. This is due to a block of the right type of metal ' may be readily converted ' as anyone that has CNC experience would know.
I'm looking up TF right after this video. Thanks Bill.
The firearm must be made for your own personal use and not for sale or distribution. Under federal law, you do not need a license to make a firearm for personal use. However, the firearm must comply with the National Firearms Act (NFA), which regulates certain types of firearms, like machine guns, short-barreled rifles, and suppressors. You cannot legally make these types of firearms without special permits. Federal law does not require a serial number on a homemade firearm unless it is sold or transferred. However, some states may have their own requirements regarding serialization. State and local laws vary, and some states have stricter regulations than federal law. For example, certain states require registration or have banned the creation of homemade firearms altogether.
"Any law repugnant to the Constitution is void." -- Marbury v. Madison, 1803.
"No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States." -- 14th Amendment
18 USC §242. Deprivation of rights under color of law:
"Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, ...
... to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States. ...
... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; ...
... and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or _threatened use of a dangerous weapon,_ explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both;"
A dangerous weapon is defined in federal law as "a weapon, device, instrument, material, or substance, animate or inanimate, that is used for, or is readily capable of, causing death or serious bodily injury, except that such term does not include a pocket knife with a blade of less than 2½ inches in length," meaning that a law enforcement officer's pistol, etc. are considered dangerous weapons. 18 USC 242 applies to any government agent, including law enforcement, judges, governors, or pretty much anyone trying to twist a law in a way to deprive you of your Civil Rights, including your RKBA.
As show, in Marbury v. Madison, no law can violate the Constitution, and even state laws cannot violate your Civil Rights (see 14th Amendment). States are not even allowed to enforce laws that violate your Civil Rights. Attempting to enforce a law that violates your Civil Rights is prima facie evidence of 18 USC 242, as well as likely 18 USC 241 (Conspiracy against rights).
I'm a photography geek... Use "diffused lighting" to prevent how washed out you look in this video. Either by bouncing the light source off a white sheet 1st and reflecting it back at you, or putting a sheet of tissue paper in front of the harsh "direct lighting". Keep up the fine fight Kirk!
It's fine... nobody else is paying attention to the lighting. This is purely an informational video, not a beauty contest (obviously, LOL).
If it's reasoned that an object that can be readily modified to be a receiver for a firearm is to be regulated, that would put a lot of every day items into a regulatory status, even such things as metal pipes/tubes, which were used to make such guns as the Sten SMG.
I think for something to be considered a firearm it must be a fully functioning firearm able to propel a projectile out of it at velocities that can harm a person or cause other damage.
It’s quite interesting that the 1968 Gun Control Act has verbiage ( I believe) that states you can make your own firearms. Is that LAW superseded by later rules that congress did not pass?
Nice meeting you at GOA, again the humor is helpful.
You do a great job of explaining so I can understand this better. Much appreciated.
frames and receivers
From now on, buying steel pipe at Home Depot will require a form 4473…
Nah, you're just making a crack pipe, no problem here officer!
Unfortunately even if the Supreme Court rules in our favor. I don't know if it's going to do anything here in Washington since we passed a state law banning frames and receivers in the so called assault weapons ban
What about the GCA68 which states that unlicensed individuals can manufacture firearms for personal use? Voter ID ASAP!🗽
Interesting point... but it's already inherent in the RKBA that you have a right to manufacture.
Thank you for this. That reminds me.
Taylor Freelance... purveyors of "freedom seed" dispensing components. Made right here in the USA.
Remember the 9th. If it isn't SPECIFICALLY illegal, then it's legal. Remember telling your parents, "You didn't say I COULDN'T do that..."? Same thing.
Yep, in a free country, all things are legal, unless there is a _valid_ law against it.
In a totalitarian state, everything is illegal, unless you have state permission.
Your garden hose could be used as a crack pipe, so heads up for the DEA…
I knew a kid with a belt buckle that was a pipe. Who knows, maybe that is how the trend of your pants around your knees got started.
According to the atf's logic. They can regulate any and all manufacturing materials..... Plastics and metals. I can readily convert tube and block stock into a receiver.
Exciting stuff 🎉
Looking forward to October
You need to get a light above you to cancel out the shadows!
Close, he needs "soft/indirect lighting" vs direct lighting. With a diffuser. Love the set though...
Thanks
Hello from Maine, another day of misdirection and double standards!
No need to worry. Manufacturers can make 79%-ers then....
Sell one screw separately....
Plain English also known as common law. ATFE ignores common law. This is why we are constantly fighting to maintain our inherent rights. To say we cannot build our own arms goes against text, history, and tradition. It was common to buy parts and build one's own arm. This is a 2nd Amendment issue.
Oh jeez we can do a 79% lower now.
The fact that the 2nd isn’t used to show that the law is unconstitutional, shows you how weak the bill of rights is
I get that the ATF has the authority to regulate firearms as you pointed out in USC 18. (on paper)
But something I can not understand because I haven't fully researched it is this:
Where does Congress get the Constitutional authority to regulate firearms at all??
Especially firearms that are neither purchased, sold, nor cross state lines? This is what troubles me. Even IF I built out a completed 80% receiver, what gives any government agency the right to control or regulate it???
What am I missing here? Is it the broader definition of sales tax that includes use?? What?
Can you explain that in a video?
@toddtavares7386 the SCOTUS isn't regulating anything... no matter how you look at it, they are striking down what the ATF has put into place and that is well within their powers to do ever since Justice Marshall stated in the case Marbury v. Madison "A law repugnant to the constitution is void." The very last line of the opinion was "The rule must be discharged."
First and fore most, in order to understand the Second Amendment and how the NFA and GCA are unconstitutional, you have to look only at the last portion of the Second Amendment... "Shall not be infringed."
Infringe, as was understood to mean by those who wrote the constitution, "1. To break, as contracts; to violate, either positively by contravention, or negatively by non-fulfillment or neglect of performance. A prince or a private person infringes an agreement or covenant by neglecting to perform its conditions, as well as by doing what is stipulated not to be done.
2. To break; to violate; to transgress; to neglect to fulfill or obey; as, to infringe a law.
3. To destroy or hinder; as, to infringe efficacy. [Little Used.]"
"INFRINGEMENT, noun infrinj'ment. Act of violating; breach; violation; non-fulfillment; as the infringement of a treaty, compact or other agreement; the infringement of a law or constitution."
"INFRING'ING, participle present tense Breaking; violating; transgressing; failing to observe or fulfill."
If we want to get into the weeds on the second amendment to find the diamond in the rough, there isn't a single law on the books on gun control or regulation that is constitutional with the exception that they can ban concealed carry so long as they do not ban open carry and vice versa...
He will not answer your question on the matter because to give a truthful answer would undermine his whole educational background on the second amendment and if he does he discredits himself...
Just being honest here....
He has been asked multiple times to show caselaw, he never does....
He can show no caselaw on disenfranchisement without violating the constitution...
Disenfranchise- : to deprive of a franchise, of a legal right, or of some privilege or immunity
especially : to deprive of the right to vote
If you look at the Second Amendment, to disenfranchise a felon, for example, is to deprive a person of a legal right to keep and bear arms secured by the second amendment...
It's the difference between de facto authority versus de jure authority.
They can do whatever they want, until someone stops them.
Thank you sir.
Just because the legislature didn’t expand a definition doesn’t mean ATF should expand a definition FOR them. The legislature would need to go back and expand it themselves, providing that, that new expanded definition doesn’t itself violate the Constitution either.
They'll lose. Again. Thus we move on to the NFA.
IF FPC and GOA dont file, I'm done with them.
Great analysis, thanks
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A spool of filament, or a pile of aluminum cans, or a bag of plumbing parts from Home Depot, is readily convertible into a firearm. The law is unconstitutionally broad and vague.
An SS agent guarding biden is readily converted to a firearm and a badge.
Thanks for the video!
Just FYI, I think a bunch of us would totally take some 15-25 min videos diving deep into these things!
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I guess the best ruling is sorry ATF, not only are 80%'s not guns. Neither are 100% lowers since they have no way to fire a bullet.
This sparks the question I’ve always asked when my shooting buddies and I get to talking firearms. Why serialize any part of a firearm other than the barrel and possibly the firing pin, bolt face, extractor and ejector? These are the parts that are used in forensics to form an identity for any firearm. They are the firearm’s fingerprints. The actual frame or chassis is completely inconsequential.
@@retrieversqbd I keep waiting for a video from these communist states of the owner handing the cops a stripped empty lower.
That seems the best of both worlds. They leave with the gun, and you make a new lower with the same serial number. Now you have a registered ghost gun they know nothing about. Everyone is happy.
At this point, I think Mr. Kirk just has a personal grudge against the people dissing his praise for "clever" legal workarounds for draconian gun laws.
How does the ATF have any authority to regulate firearms when there is no language in the second amendment granting any such authority to any branch of government?
The bigger problem, no rule, regulation policy.Or opinion gets to violate my unalienable.Right to keep in bare arms
18 USC 242
Everything in the national fire arm act is an infringement.
First place, statutory interpretation isn't what helps any of us, look at where we are right now. I learned when I was in high school that anything to do with legal requires an attorney/lawyer or you won't know what is happening. In other words they can keep us in the dark because we are stupid and don't understand their language. The other thing I learned was to NEVER TRUST an attorney/lawyer they only want your money at a rate of 300 to 1500 dollars per hour.
It's a game. It makes them rich. They want us to believe that there is no alternative to paying them to play it.
@@robgrey6183 Lawyers are Juris Doctors. It takes 7 years of college and half a million dollars to become a lawyer.
The other potential point to argue is: What constitutes "Readily Convertible". I would submit that the precious machining required to complete an 80% lower is laborious, and timeconsuming and requires special tools such that it should not be considered "Readily Convertible".
Maybe WK of WGL could file an Amicus Brief.
*precision not precious
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Imagine if any block of metal could be interpreted as a frame or receiver just because it could be converted to one. Then imagine people getting there blocks of metal confiscated. No matter what metal it is. Including silver and gold. Then through asset forfeture laws you would never get it back.
Except our fourth amendment prohibits government from unreasonable search and seizure.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
You HAVE A RIGHT to own arms, even if you're going to pretend that a chunk of metal is a gun... YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO OWN IT.
Stop getting distracted by all the hand waving and word games.
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 I get what you are saying and agree. I was trying to point out something different. But thanks for the comment.
Colorado recently made a Serial-Number requirement for home builds but has no registration requirement for a semi-auto only build. I finished out a couple of Uzi carbines from 80% receiver pieces with 16-inch barrels and stamped on a serial number! Also made a pair of Sten carbines with 16-inch barrels from Indianapolis Ordnance closed-bolt parts with up to 10-foreign parts used like the handle, trigger controller frame & mag wells! Nice and fun to shoot and luckily had grandfathered mags. I don't see any provisions for making a pistol with a barrel under 16-inch or less than 23 inches overall length unless just the pistol grip was used in a carbine configuration.
Our rights are being infringed
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How does drilling and milling an unfinished frame/receiver fit the dictionary definition of READILY? Even with a drill press and a jig, the process doesn't sound "quickly, easily, without difficulty" etc. to me. They weren't considered as "firearms" for years under the SAME laws as today...with good reason. They make cool paper weights. :)
Has anyone tried challenging the idea that public funds shouldn’t be used to constantly and consistently fight the public’s rights?
Every Home Depot has hundreds of unfinished shotguns in the pipe aisle.
Free men Do NOT ask Permission! Idaho unlike communist WA! Shall not be infringed
this is the one i have been paying the most attention to. this is critical to americans right to making their own firearms
Excellent analysis
American Citizens need to just ignore the ATF. The Constitution cannot be revoked by the ATF. Stop asking Permission and keep moving forward.
If the definition of a firearm says that it propels a projectile by an "explosive " then why are guns that use smokeless powder classified as firearms because by the DOT definition smokeless powder is not an explosive it is a " flammable solid "?
The sad thing is I would love to have 80% lower just because it would be fun to try to have a skill like the professional makers. But I live in the anti-gun and communist state of California, where 80% receivers are banned , and that sucks
This whole thing about bureaucratic overreach is the larger issue. ATF is what us 2A guys deal with but lots of other departments and bureaus do things in other aspects of life. PragerU just ran a video a day or two ago about the "managerial class," the unelected government officials who regulate based on their own agendas.
Garland must be getting tried of getting smacked by the supreme court
Thanks for the info
80/20 itself can not be readily converted.
It takes machining and drilling to create that ability.
A mechanical type person could create just about anything with the correct tools with any available materials.
It's a block of aluminum!
Video/newsletter idea: a discussion of privateering documents between the Continental US government and private owners of cannons/gunships in the context of text, history, and tradition (Bruen decision) along with actual documents or exact copies of the original historical documents contracting privately owned weapons in a limited partnership of national defense as judicial precedent of the true intent of the 2A and how the early firearms manufacturing industry existed independently and precedently of any centralized (federal), or decentralized (state) regulatory institution (bureaucratic oligarchy).
Could you do a video on the states that honor other states concealed carry permits plus the do's and don'ts of carrying between them
The ATF's claims would give them the authority to regulate anything.