Actually arguably caused by feminism. Women in the workplace competing for jobs on an equal footing. Historically they stayed at home and only dipped in and out of the workforce for a little extra family cash. Two wages competing for house prices pushed up house values and then became the norm. Now it has become a necessity. Louise Pearce explains this eloquently. Then already high prices have been maintained and made worse by high immigration increasing demand without addressing supply…
Contemplate for a moment - Mar*ists were so desperate for power and hate-filled that they abandoned the only reason they ever existed - the working class. As Orwell first noted - they NEVER liked the working class.
Wealthy comfortable people living in gentrified areas, think climate change and LGBTQ are the most important issues, but for the working majority its the cost of living crisis, job security and housing, all affected by high unsustainable immigration
Not caused by "high" unsustainable immigration", but by corporate greed and the exploitation of the common person by those that control the means of production. This is coming from someone who wants to decrease immigration.
Being born, raised and living in a working class area, I can tell you that there is a correlation between the wars the politicians have waged and immigration. My grandparents came here to help after the 2nd world war. And the influx of Iraqi and Afghan people in my area came after the Iraq and Afghan wars. And right now people are hurting because our government is subservient to big business. The cost of living went up and Shell & BP make record profits! We need to hold the political class to account.
@Daniel-hp3tk How many people do you honestly think these islands can sustain? Even if you look at it from a food security point of view, let alone all the rest of the mess the mass migration has caused, you can’t seriously think these numbers are sustainable and corporate greed has nothing to do with it. Add to that globalist commie types want to cease the ability of our farmers to trade (partially driven by ridiculous international supply chains for food) and the future looks very dark indeed, and that is driven by an ideology that wants to kill people off rather than create more ‘customers.’
I am sick to death of climate and LGTB etc - I want this country to work again... for trains to run on time, for houses to be affordable, for jobs to be available, for healthcare to be timely and for someone to respect our heritage!!!
We live in an era of confected issues raised to existential status by the unaccountable. Meanwhile the important stuff is dismissed as the delusions of an uneducated mob.
Spend a couple of hours reading the Guardian. The routine level of priggishly self-righteous snobbery aimed at huge swathes of the British public is huge. It's morphed into a chattering classes Daily Mail.
I've been saying this for a few years. I'd even go as far as to say it's worse than the mail. The mail at least pretends to be a newspaper. These days the Graun is just shameless propaganda and middle class talking points.
@@josm1481 the Guardian won't even report news or delays reporting news that doesn't fit with its narrative. The classic case was the Cologne New Years eve attacks, it took them four days to finally publish an article about it an open it up for discussion.
I live in one of those predominantly white, skilled working class parts of England. Lots of builders, roofers, chippies, sparkies etc. Quite a few St George Cross' being flown but, as far as I've seen so far, not a single poster supporting Labour. One Lib Dem, that's it.
@@BigKelvPark The more permanent flags are actually up flag poles while the ones that have arrived since the football started tend to hang out of windows. However, it isn't just the flags, it's the lack of posters in windows for the election too.
I respectfully disagree. By 1970, the Left cast its lot with a new coalition. Now, it thought that keeping the working class with the Left would be ever-increasingly difficult, which motivated the Left’s new platform and coalition, but it dumped the working class first.
@@clemfarley7257 They dumped the idea of PR as well as soon as they got a landslide under Blair in ´97. We could have got a better system than ´first past the post´ and pretty much a 2-party system still in England. I wonder how long Labour will give it before they eventually ´betray´ and sneer at those such as Muslims for their illiberal belief systems (anti-LQBTQ etc, misogynist - it certainly evidences beliefs, attitudes & practices which tick those boxes and others)...or will they play the numbers game with fellow-travellers and ideologically incompatible partners forever?
As have the Conservatives at this point. Honestly we're not much better than America with their "Do you want to vote for Loud Orange Man or Doddery Old Geezer?"
@@jumblestiltskin1365I agree and disagree. I see him as a slippery fellow. He says the right things at certain times when the wind changes. He was so lambasted by the left when he started to see the hard left break or take the party that way. Understandable and I agree. But because of this criticism of him he seemed for a while to pivot back. Now he’s doing a half way house type of speak. Admitting the obvious and not really delving deep. My own opinion at the end of the day.
That's what being working class, dependent on your next paycheck will do to your life view. Welcome to the world, Ginge. Might want to tell Whinge to keep stum. You're losing credibility as a "working couple" at an astonishing rate. Particularly with your neighbors. Remind your daughter that her first name is Princess. It's not, nor ever will be her title.😂😂😂😂
Is Embery beating about the bush, avoiding the issue? Many working class English people simply want England to remain recognizably, dominantly English- economic issues are secondary. Small- scale immigration is not a problem, but mass immigration an existential threat. But we can accept the world, others will say, they will become English- don't be a bigot, a racist. I answer- only if you think being English is so loose and vague it has hardly any meaning at all. Could I, an atheist Brit, move to Pakistan and become every bit a Pakistani? Of course not.
That’s the hypocrisy of the left, it’s OK to import millions of unassimilated migrants into England because as the left would say we don’t have a culture or identity anyway. They’re more than happy to dilute our culture and society year by year, but if you propose the idea of importing millions of English into another country it’s colonialism or genocide or something.
The movie Chocolate with Judy Dench and Johnny Depp, one long English middle class w*nk fantasy. The impression I get is the Norman's saw home as France for hundreds of years and now it has become an aspirational affectation. Also the middle class can be massive b*ll end's over there as there's no working class Brits to laugh at them, they're all in Spain and Cyprus.
And they idolise Europe yet conveniently gloss over the fact that in every major European country what would be classified as "far right" by them, either hold sway or are represented in significant numbers in various European parliaments. The working classes are just cannon fodder for when they want to fight a war, and legal fodder for when they want to ease their conscience for so called "war crimes".
They will quite happily adopt a dog or even a child from Romania or similar but wouldn't dream of helping the same in this country, even though there is the same need. Perhaps they think foreign is exotic or special, a bit like some birds will bang anything abroad but pretend they are all virtuous at home, because its exotic. Bit like drinKing water out of a bottle is more exotic than getting it from a tap, despite the safe tap water being a more advanced option.
As a 65 year old, working class life long Labour voter, I no longer even recognise it ! I was brought up being told by my dad, and my granddad that Labour was the party OF the working class, FOR the working class. They were the party to protect blue collar workers from evil, unscrupulous, greedy bosses….. But now the Labour Party detests the working class. Blue collar workers are way down the order on the Labour list, behind LGBTQ, Pride, BLM, Gaza, everything comes before White ,British, Straight, Working Class !! I will NEVER vote Labour again, EVER !
Keir Hardie wanted to ban all immigration from countries where the average wage was lower than the UK to stop employers bringing in cheap Labour to under cut British workers, that was in 1899, quite a nuanced position that would benefit us today. The modern Labour lovies would call him a racist bigot, he would be turning in his grave at what the Labour Party has become.
lol another delusional lefty then he was. The real left are hateful and power crazed and will stop at nothing to get their way. How do you think they abandoned the “workers” so easily lol. It is hilarious when you see guys like this still clinging onto left wing ideals without realising how hollow and shallow their real views are and how they use emotional manipulation to achieve power. Left = desire for power at ANY cost.
There's 11 countries with a higher average wage... which country from north America or wealthy EU do you think are going to sign up for picking fruit on a UK farm?
Does Paul Embery accept that the desire that many indigenous English working class people have that England remain predominantly English in ethnic identity and culture is legitimate? I'm not sure he's quite clear about this. If you said to most people in this country right or left- 'hey apparently most people in Tunisia want Tunisia to remain predominantly Tunisian- what do you think about that?' I think most would accept it as natural and fine.(And for Tunisia, you could subsitute Korea, Senegal, etc etc). But for England it's a no-no. I've never understood exactly why.
Because of white guilt. All these bleeding heart libs are still crying over what the British did two hundred years ago. They feel like Britain owes the colonised countries some sort of reparations and the oppressive horrible English culture doesnt deserve to be preserved . Its like the old Monty python skit though , What have the Romans ever done for us ?
They've got the white guilt nonsense going on. Basically a form of original sin where the whites of today are responsible for the sins of their forefathers and need to atone by allowing the UK to be colonised.
Great to hear from leftwingers who break from the script. My only slight disagreement with Embry is that he says the effect of migration on wages in this country is negligible. I would argue, it's just a matter of time before the effects start to kick in. The country is currently being fed a diet of myths like "British people don't want to do those jobs", "We need more migrants to fill vacancies", and greedy UK bosses going on about how their Eastern European workers are "more hardworking than my English ones". A grand narrative is being spun to make us unemployable.
He said overall the effects are negligible and its probably true for many people in those sort of middle class, "white collar" jobs, but he did say it can have a far greater effect on those on low paid jobs. But yes there is always this narrative the British don't want those jobs, they did it round here during Covid, farmers complained they couldn't get workers in the fields, but people round here were asking to do the job, but the farmers wouldn't contact them, the media were claimed the farmers didn't pay East Europeans low wages, which is true, but they also provided the East Europeans accommodation, which they took rent back off them in return.
The tangible effect was seen quite recently, back when European lorry drivers were leaving the UK due to poor pay and conditions, resulting in their employers scrambling to offer high wages to attract British drivers. We saw the effect in real time but people seem to have forgotten all about it.
I think this old reuploaded interview was conducted before the Centre for Policy Studies report that found that migration has not delivered growth in GDP per capita, while putting strain on services; it accounts for 89% of the housing deficit, and immigrants from the Middle East and North Africa are twice as likely to be economically inactive as someone born in the UK.
I'll never understand the elites' distain for the working class when they rise and sleep under the blanket of comfort and security that is provided entirely by said working class. Its like Fight Club: "we haul your trash, connect your calls, drive your ambulances......we guard you while you sleep. DO NOT FUCK WITH US."
@@docsavage8640 this guy doesn't sing to the Farage mantra that all of our problems are the fault of immigration! This dude is either deluded or a liar!!
This interview is from November 2020, before the almost a million a year immigration started happening, so although it was still fairly recent, 4 years ago seems like a lifetime ago now, certainly in terms of the immigration story.
I'm going to spend the next 4-5 years saying "you voted for it". So many people haven't clocked on that it's just the two liberal uniparty system, with slightly different views on the same elitist topics. The two main parties, will not save you.. they're completely ideologically captured. Long term, it's very worrying if the general population don't clock on and we keep repeating the same cycle. Leaving the country may be the only option if things keep on like this for the next 10-15 years.
The trouble is they (Politicians) never enter the areas mostly affected, after all they are just filthy peasants living there to their minds. Democracy isn’t working anymore because it’s been completely subverted. They don’t even canvas anymore they just post a flyer through your door expecting you to vote for them, most of whom you have never seen or heard of before.
The trouble is governments hang about for 10-20 years and you get a new generation of voters with no point of reference, thinking the other lot will be their saviour. I remember evenings by candlelight and sandwiches for dinner during the 1970s Labour discontent; my dad being made redundant in the Thatcher wasteland, me being unemployed in the early '90s recession. Things seemed better in the early Blair years, but it was bought on HP which had to be paid back with Cameron austerity... Around and around we go. "Shat on by Tories, shovelled up by Labour", as Withnail's Uncle Monty put it. This country is practically ungovernable now.
@@Gloops01 I get your points. i think the things we're facing now are quite literally unrecoverable short term. This isn't some bad peroid we can sit out for 5 years, or some economic reform we just need to be patient with. It seems ridiclous but 40 years of Net zero, zero growth, anti business and the same sort of immigration levels and policies that disregard normal people and trust me, it wont be ridiclous. You're getting to pre nazi germany levels of instablity, but with a radically segreated country with no shared history. History tells us, and has shown us these conditions are utter chaos often bloody and very violent, it's not something you want to live through. Now something has to go very wrong for us to keep doing this for 40 years. but it's entirely possible.
I have come across a lot of various Westerners lately that have bailed to Russia. And they all seem quite happy. Though I guess if too many leave, you become the problem you seek to escape.
Plumbers make more than teachers. 'Working class' is an outdated Victorian paradigm: unskilled labour with zero social mobility. That simply isn't the case in the UK any more. Someone working on a building site in current year is a world away from a navvy. If anything the "educated class" is falling behind, not skilled labour. AI can do excel, it can't lay a hardwood floor.
I agree, but the problem with AI is there will be not many left able pay for that hardwood floor, if a big part of society loses their jobs, it will eventually affect us all.
I agree, I've worked in IT / Radiocomms etc for 40 years. There are many so called 'skilled' workers, in offices and so on, who have been doing the same job at their keyboards for years and years, and they have almost no idea how any of it works. Conversely, mates that work in the traditional trades roles, possessing the construction, engineering, H&S skills and so on, could leave these office idiots standing, but of course, why would they want to work in an office ha ha!!
Oh and robots are set to do a load more stuff in construction. Including brick laying, digger driving etc. Driving cars, taxis, lorries, buses etc itself will pretty soon be almost totally automated. Starting in cities but moving out relatively quickly. Agriculture is also set for huge impacts from AI and advancing robotics. Sure AI driven systems may not yet be able to lay a hardwood floor but improved design and manufacture will probably make laying a hardwood floor easier for everyone, deskilling jobs comes with the Territory. Who thought in the 60's or even really the 80's that many of us would routinely assemble our own furniture? We are in the very early days of new technology revolution. One that is advancing at an accelerating rate and one that will have many predictable but also many unpredicted outcomes. And yes many middle class professions are set to vanish or be radically changed, deskilled etc by the coming technologies. Essentially no part of society is immune.
@@alsoascot02yes, I saw some Boston Dynamics prototypes doing some construction tasks. Although those are more expensive and probably need more testing and compliance rules to take over, since they may pose physical harm risk. But it should be a 1 to 2 decades delay compared to taking over “office jobs”
Next Step : None of them ever did or ever will have any values that relate to mine. They all want you to shut up and give them power. Because all they want is power.
It's the same everywhere. I'm an old School Socialist from Spain and the Left is dead to me. Now we just have Patriotism vs Globalism, hopefully with some working class values.
I live in a working class seaside town and no one I know wants to stop immigration because of economic reasons, Its because the social, cultural and yes even racial reasons. I would say its the same in most English towns because people have eyes and can see what is actually happening.
A long-rooted people are being rapidly diluted- this is certainly a kind of assault, an insult (in the medical sense), arguably an outrage. Yet to even notice it gets you labelled a horrible person. Neither Labour nor Conservative see English identity as having any great value or reality. For them it's so open, it's ideally so welcoming of incomers that it's virtually empty of meaning. Even Farage for the most part doesn't voice the existential objection many have to mass immigration- rather he talks of the services not being able to cope...
Its gets me mad just thinking about it mate, when you look up the definition of Genocide its basically a description of what's happening all over England.
I remember listening to this entire interview when it first cam out. Excellent piece. Thanks for re-posting. Oh, and by the way, vote Reform (or SDP)...😊
"Good for the GDP" does NOT necessarily mean good for the people. Put everyone in the whole world into one country, and that's going to be wonderful for the country's GDP... but not for the people. What's good for one group, ie immigrants, can be bad for another, such as the natives.
GDP also includes government spending. So all the extra money spent on hospitals, the criminal justice system, education, benefits - housing benefit, income support etc etc due to a increase in our population
@@jazztheglass6139 Also the required increases in infrastructure... more/bigger roads, sewage, water, trash disposal... And, of course, all of "special help" funding for people to help the immigrants get settled.. Yes, people get paid for doing that, which gives them a strong $ incentive to promote much more of it...
As someone who used to be on the political left but haven't been for many years and unlikely to return in its current guise Paul Embery is a very balanced and pragmatic guy who sees both sides of the coin and things for what they are. To have any sense of credibility moving forwards the left need more people like Paul at the forefront. Labour are on borrowed time, they will have one term only.
The working class no longer labour at the coal face, the blas furnace, the quarry, the chemical plant. They lost those jobs when the country deindustrialised. They now have a white van, are self employed and naturally now moderate right wingers. There been a huge shift and that’s why Labour moved into the wine not beer, avocado not cornflakes or porridge, home owners not renters set. Tolerance of immigration is not as prevalent as the chattering classes think, they’re benefiting, lower echelons of so carry the burden and costs. It’s culture that’s threatened, to paraphrase another book it’s the somewheres feeling threatened by the elite anywheres. I read your book in 2020 and it’s a good read, we saw how the elite despised the rest of their countrymen, branding them deplorables, the uneducated the gammons back in 2016. Sanctimony on steroids. They’re going to live through it again when Reform have a growing presence in the HOC and in 2024 provide another shock culminating in significant presence if not a majority in 2029.
You make me depressed. USSR is a Democracy. Vietnam is a Democracy. North Korea is a Democracy. The 🇬🇧 is a Constitutional Monarchy. Anytime you ask for Democracy, you remember that Adolph was a liberal and that Mussolini was a social democrat. They were both Marxists, and Keir Starmer (a Pabloist, Trotskyist) is a Social Democrat. Small, progressive steps towards further and further left. So slow, you don’t notice it happening. Go on mate. You keep asking for Democracy and know you’re the people you wondered about in history class, wondering how good people could have voted National Socialists into power. Democracy gets you that.
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I am from estonia. When estonia joined EU there were for years difficulties for estonians or any other who joined EU to still work in old EU countries. I think at least 7 years. Eventhough we were in EU, because the old EU countries did not want to mess up their job market by new "cheap" labour. Remember that. These things were put on new members of EU in 2004... now it is like free for all... come, take benefits, you do not even need to work... how the heck one can think this wont collapse sooner rather than later.
As an American, I have been perpetually confused by the tendency of UK liberals to import American racial and imigration issues. Here in the grand ol' US of A, it is racist and peculiar for anyone who isn't a member of one of a Native peoples, to see their race as the default race of the US. Equally, anyone whose ancestors immigrated here from the "old world" feeling they have a right to say now that other's cannot also immigrate is very silly, right on it's face. But England is where English people are from. Wales is where Welsh people are from. Just as China has the right, at any time, to limit the number of non Chinese people who can move there, just as Japan has a right to insist that an Englishman, moving to Japan, assimilate into the existing Japanese culture, English people have a right to insist that England remain as English as they like. Yall are not "a nation of immigrants." That's what we are. Yall are a nation of origin, just like any other nation of origin on the planet. Any standard that you accept for a "non white" country should apply equally to a "white" country.
I'm also American and scratch my head when I hear Brits saying how great immigration is and how Britain should be more "diverse"? You don't see any other ethnicities saying this type of thing because it just doesn't make any sense. Honestly I've kind of lost respect for the Brits and Europe in general. Don't worry I've lost respect for the US as well.
Reality is that the people who are organized and have a army has the power. We see that in the Israel vs Palestine conflict, and it was the army that finaly said that they where lojal to the constitution and not the president in the jan 6 coup i 2020 in the USA. The world is a hostile place at it’s core because humans are « tribal» by nature. And they are easy to manipulate by politicians and other power players. When the powerfull need more worker bees to hold vages down, they could either import it. Or simply « offshore» , the entire factory and invested capital.
@NMn-dc5qo That just tells me that your immigration system is out of control, and your government is bowing to outside influences. Would think it was acceptable for millions of ethnically English people to move to Japan and insist that the culture change to accommodate them?
Spot on, most people just want to see a bit of control, the population keeps going up but services, housing etc are simply being stretched to the limit. It’s not about race it’s about numbers.
Yes, numbers are, of course, a priority, with Britain having an unsustainable growth in the population over the last few years. But whereas race itself is not an issue, although the left constantly try to suggest that Brits wishing to reduce immigration are doing so simply because they object to an individuals skin colour. However, culture is very much a matter of concern. We have allowed in millions who not only do not share our culture and values, but often despise them and us. This has led to an increasing breakdown in social cohesion in this country, an extremely damaging state of affairs. And now, with a general election coming up, it is noticeable how secretariansm has very obviously raised its ugly head in this nation.
It is significantly about race for many people and I've come around to the view that it's a legitimate argument. The English have a connection to the land going back (to a considerable degree) thousands of years. That means something. It's a precious thing and receives too little recognition. If the populations of England and eg Khazakstan swapped places, which would now be England ?(equally, which would be Khazakstan?) The answer is surely neither. England is the land plus its historic people. For example, for immigrants, the landscape, ancient monuments etc won't have the same meaning as for indigenous people.
@@applegrovebard The hard left are to blame for undermining our culture and heritage, they simply use multi culture as a scapegoat for what they’ve always wanted to do, meanwhile those incoming are scratching their heads wondering why we’re doing these things, all this de-colonising everything is bonkers, most people nowadays don’t (or wouldn’t) give the old British Empire a passing thought if our noses weren’t being rubbed in it all the time. History is fascinating, we should accept it for what it is, learn from it and move on.
The importance of family, homeland and a moral code cannot be overestimated in creating a personal sense of security, and the degreed classes, in their obsession with multiculturalism and disdain for religion, have conceived a hatred for the classes who still value them. This is not just the UK; it's world-wide.
I was Labour from 16 until 43 in 1996. I was aghast at what Blair-Brown were doing to the country and it got worse under Cameron-Clegg and now it is going down the drain with Starmer. I was always opposed to the EEC-EU and became UKIP in 2015 and Brexit-Reform in 2019.
the main consequences of unrestricted immigration are lawlessness, housing shortages, healthcare shortages, and community division, loss of social cohesion. these hit the poorest members hardest.
🇮🇪 Sinn Fein have fallen into this very trap in the Republic of Ireland. Formerly the were violently ethno- nationalist and targeted working class areas with a tax-the-rich, housing for all message. Then they went after the middle class and woke student vote with liberal immigration and gender policy campaigns. They have no belief in these stances but just used them to drive a consensus for a united ireland vote. Their working class vote has collapsed as a result.
So sad to see the despicable treatment of the Irish breaks my heart. They deserved better than the sell outs who forced millions on them whilst abandoning the needs of the real Irish people.
The MODERN left are professional types who have done VERY well since May 1997 (New Labour) (as that new saying goes "How can you spot a Labour voter these days ? They drive Range Rovers)....27 years of Liberal-Left Government has seen the 'doubling' of Lawyers and Accountants, plus a host of pointless jobs such as DEI Officer and 'Compliance Officer' . OLD Labour were people working with their hands MAKING THINGS that were then often Exported and so made us better off. Little wonder my Law Firm partner mate is a Leftoid - he and his family are utterly unaffected by Wide Open Borders and the 101 negative effects of that.
This is the key point: those whom champion and enact “open border“ legislation and push for unmitigated illegal immigration, aren’t the ones that are actually having to deal with the repercussions of those policies. It’s the folks along the border(s), low income wage earners and the medical professionals and educators trying to keep and and just survive in country’s healthcare and educational systems.
I am not a Labour voter, the last time i voted for them was in the late 1970s. But I've always thought Mr Embery is one of the few Labour party members who speak for the working class, I know he hasn't had an easy time in the Labour party himself because of his views. It's just a shame their aren't more like him, if their were, i might even think of voting for them again.
Despite all the Tory woes we're seeing now. The Labour party have deeper issues that are more likely to destroy them in the long term. When you look at Labour conferences and their activist base. They are too bourgeois and city centric in terms of their outlook.
I grew up in a wealthy Liberal Arts college/law school town outside Chicago. I knew a lot of profs/students and I chose to be a mom. My kids are now 50. What I've noticed is that the "elite values" seem to be "Let this Birkin Bag represent my worth as a person" and as things change the "Elite" are threatened by this materialist costume does not add the value to their life that it used to.
And they have spent most of the last 14 years trying to employ 'triangulation' and being indistinguishable from New Labour politically. @@morenitomoreno1282
This is the key point: those who enact “open border“ policies and push for unmitigated illegal immigration, aren’t the ones that are actually having to deal with the repercussions of those policies. It’s the folks along the border(s), low income wage earners and the teachers and medical professionals in the country’s healthcare and educational systems.
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Paul Embury completely neglects the attack on our Institutions by the Queer-Theory Activists, especially their capture of Education. Two highly recommended U-tube videos: 1 'What is Wrong with the Labour Party? Rosie Duffield is a Legend', from The Famous Artist Birdie Rose. 2 'The Transvestite Headteacher in the School Library' about the Primary school in Kinlochbervie. From the Scottish Family Party. They are a Christian group, but you don't have to be at all religious to deplore what is happening.
Im a white, middle class, graduate woman, who never voted leftist in my life, in fact while I was a student, I had lunch with Norman Tebbit as part of the Conservative Students where I was studying. Vote Reform.
I’ve been saying this for years now, that Labour are no longer the party of the working class - they are the party of the university class (middle class). I left Labour some time ago - I cancelled my membership and have stopped voting for them. I feel politically homeless.
Chatting to some local men in the pubs last autumn and winter, it was the working-class, skilled technicians and tradesmen who were clued-up about politics at home and abroad. They inform themselves and won't be talked down to. Meanwhile the middle classes all believe what the BBC et al tell them and don't look into the details, just as long as their kids are at "Uni" and they have a nice foreign holiday each year. The hope for the future is the young people who are NOT going to university, unless it is STEM subjects. In my town, no one has been talking about politics in public, and some people seem quite scared somehow.
The BNP and Enoch Powell were the only chances to Britain to save itself after the disaster of WWII it seems. Tragic. Hopefully Britain will save itself before Britons become a minority on their own island in the middle of this century, should all stay on its current course.
The true disconnect is that now a “leftist” has to agree on every point of the dogma agenda. If they differ on even one of these they are considered to be right wing extremists. These factions ( right wing to a slightly lesser extent) demand complete agreement where in the past these were coalitions of people that agreed on more than they didn’t but weren’t in total lockstep.
Living in a middle class Labour supporting area, and fitting that demographic myself, I am dismayed by the shamelessly hostile attitude of many people I know towards white working class people and their values. This was perhaps most blatant during the Brexit campaign and its aftermath, when it became such common coin that only racists and imbeciles would have voted Leave that people just assumed by default that all their friends were Remainers.
I'm 100% on your side of politics, but a country with no growth, ZERO permanent migration and declining living standards since the mid 80s can't be our flagbearer
ALL politicians look down their noses at the lifeblood of this country the working class. I don't trust anyone who says glarss when we all know there's no R in glass. See it can go both ways
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It is contempt for the people that need to work to meet the end's day. Some people forget that some rich families started with hard work and got lucky.
I value Paul’s honesty and very much appreciate him speaking out about exactly what has happened. However, you can see he feels the need to sugarcoat it, probably because he doesn’t want to offend the countless snowflakes in his own party. I was Labour before but now detest them and their middle-class virtue signalling members. I wish Reform has a better chance of being elected.
We've had a cost of living crisis since the tories got in. It just didn't affect the middle class, so it wasn't a crisis to anyone but us poors. Over 200,00 people died because of austerity. The vast majority disabled. The left was silent.
For some reason, those people who instigate and promote lower tier issues seem to have more influence than they should. Both the mainstream and social media are mainly to blame, but I'm not sure how it contaminates establishments like the police and schools.
I agreed with everything this guy said, but in a previous podcast with Triggernometry he called ‘T Robinson’ a racist and it really annoyed me, he gave the typical middle class lefty smear of Robinson, so I commend him for speaking up for the working class but he clearly doesn’t get it to the extent the working class do.
A great interview for a start. Paul talking common sense that sadly no longer is the case in politics. As said before...after 4th July , God help us all .. then the fightback begins
Labour used to stick up for the working class & poorer people but now seem complicit in making us all poorer. They constantly complain about the rising cost of housing & rents, the rising cost of living but don't seem to think it can possibly be anything to do with the high level of immigration we have had over the last few years or the frantic race for net zero. This means that however many houses we build every year it will never keep up with demand from huge increases in population & so house prices & rents will continue to rise.. Similarly, we are all ,rich & poor forced into having to pay green taxes, more for energy & more for food all because of this frantic race to be net zero. It is all just basic economics & common sense These issues are neither right or left but it seems that the left just want to blame the Tories for all the Countries troubles & It is only the 'far right' that is listening to the real reasons ! .
This guy like most in this debate, (including Reform) does not seem to question why the UK's population is rising rapidly when it should be stagnant or even falling. And the oft quoted stat that the UK is set to become the most populous nation in Western Europe around 2050 comes from where and why is it a target? If it is a target it can only happen via further mass immigration which given the shambolic approach so far hardly bodes well for future economic prosperity or social cohesion?
Doesn't bode well for much it's totally shambolic with no plan. How about just protect OUR boarders. Seems like a simple solution. They have been very vocal and active about Ukraine.
The thing he mentions about Japan is very true. I spent a year in Japan as part of my degree last year and a lot of people throw out the term 'xenophobic' in reference to their desire of keeping their culture the way it is. Japanese people are some of the most welcoming and polite people I have ever met. You do have to follow the rules and respect their culture, as they like things exactly the way they are and aren't interested in foreign changes much. It's not a bad thing at all. I'm in their country, of course I am going to behave and follow the rules and would feel rude if I didn't. I wish we here in the UK would take note of that. I feel like Britain's identity is slowing being destroyed in place of 'Diversity' and 'Progressiveness' being British really doesn't mean anything anymore
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Actually arguably caused by feminism. Women in the workplace competing for jobs on an equal footing. Historically they stayed at home and only dipped in and out of the workforce for a little extra family cash. Two wages competing for house prices pushed up house values and then became the norm. Now it has become a necessity. Louise Pearce explains this eloquently. Then already high prices have been maintained and made worse by high immigration increasing demand without addressing supply…
Contemplate for a moment - Mar*ists were so desperate for power and hate-filled that they abandoned the only reason they ever existed - the working class.
As Orwell first noted - they NEVER liked the working class.
@@beefy0978y’all are hilarious
Wealthy comfortable people living in gentrified areas, think climate change and LGBTQ are the most important issues, but for the working majority its the cost of living crisis, job security and housing, all affected by high unsustainable immigration
Its a wealth and urban divide
Not caused by "high" unsustainable immigration", but by corporate greed and the exploitation of the common person by those that control the means of production. This is coming from someone who wants to decrease immigration.
Being born, raised and living in a working class area, I can tell you that there is a correlation between the wars the politicians have waged and immigration. My grandparents came here to help after the 2nd world war. And the influx of Iraqi and Afghan people in my area came after the Iraq and Afghan wars.
And right now people are hurting because our government is subservient to big business. The cost of living went up and Shell & BP make record profits!
We need to hold the political class to account.
@Daniel-hp3tk How many people do you honestly think these islands can sustain? Even if you look at it from a food security point of view, let alone all the rest of the mess the mass migration has caused, you can’t seriously think these numbers are sustainable and corporate greed has nothing to do with it. Add to that globalist commie types want to cease the ability of our farmers to trade (partially driven by ridiculous international supply chains for food) and the future looks very dark indeed, and that is driven by an ideology that wants to kill people off rather than create more ‘customers.’
@@Daniel-hp3tkcringe fucking commie take. No wonder you watch this channel.
I am sick to death of climate and LGTB etc - I want this country to work again... for trains to run on time, for houses to be affordable, for jobs to be available, for healthcare to be timely and for someone to respect our heritage!!!
vote Reform UK
We live in an era of confected issues raised to existential status by the unaccountable. Meanwhile the important stuff is dismissed as the delusions of an uneducated mob.
@@borderlands6606Luxury beliefs.
@@markryan3498Like Tories, but worse….
@@geofftaylorukexplain how?
Spend a couple of hours reading the Guardian. The routine level of priggishly self-righteous snobbery aimed at huge swathes of the British public is huge. It's morphed into a chattering classes Daily Mail.
The Guardian’s ad revenue comes overwhelmingly from the US, and American upscale lefties are who it caters to. Look it up.
a tiny fraction of the population of self-anointed narcissistic sociopaths
I've been saying this for a few years. I'd even go as far as to say it's worse than the mail. The mail at least pretends to be a newspaper. These days the Graun is just shameless propaganda and middle class talking points.
@@josm1481 So I imagine it is the same as Channel Four and their guru muppet chap.
@@josm1481 the Guardian won't even report news or delays reporting news that doesn't fit with its narrative. The classic case was the Cologne New Years eve attacks, it took them four days to finally publish an article about it an open it up for discussion.
As an ex Labour voter, all i can say is......God help us all.
dont do it
I live in one of those predominantly white, skilled working class parts of England. Lots of builders, roofers, chippies, sparkies etc. Quite a few St George Cross' being flown but, as far as I've seen so far, not a single poster supporting Labour. One Lib Dem, that's it.
Correct.
And there is a football tournament currently happening. I wonder how many of those flags still fly after the 14th of July.
@@BigKelvPark The more permanent flags are actually up flag poles while the ones that have arrived since the football started tend to hang out of windows. However, it isn't just the flags, it's the lack of posters in windows for the election too.
I think most of the skilled working class will vote Reform. I also don't believe many in the Red wall will return to voting Labour.
Reform!!
I'm stuck in a labour safe seat and I hate it. Labour has betrayed the working class for thirty years.
And before that the working class voted Con....which is why it changed 🤔
the Tories are utter trash as well - nothing but a complete betrayal of conservatism
UK needs to empower populist nationalist parties
I respectfully disagree. By 1970, the Left cast its lot with a new coalition. Now, it thought that keeping the working class with the Left would be ever-increasingly difficult, which motivated the Left’s new platform and coalition, but it dumped the working class first.
@@clemfarley7257 They dumped the idea of PR as well as soon as they got a landslide under Blair in ´97. We could have got a better system than ´first past the post´ and pretty much a 2-party system still in England. I wonder how long Labour will give it before they eventually ´betray´ and sneer at those such as Muslims for their illiberal belief systems (anti-LQBTQ etc, misogynist - it certainly evidences beliefs, attitudes & practices which tick those boxes and others)...or will they play the numbers game with fellow-travellers and ideologically incompatible partners forever?
As have the Conservatives at this point. Honestly we're not much better than America with their "Do you want to vote for Loud Orange Man or Doddery Old Geezer?"
Put British people FIRST.
I like Paul Embrey, an honest and thoughtful lefty. A rare beast.
He is, sadly he is very behind the curve of what is about to happen.
This tool assumes the left are good at heart. Left wingers are so ideologically captured it’s embarrassing to hear them speak frankly
@@jumblestiltskin1365I agree and disagree.
I see him as a slippery fellow. He says the right things at certain times when the wind changes. He was so lambasted by the left when he started to see the hard left break or take the party that way. Understandable and I agree.
But because of this criticism of him he seemed for a while to pivot back.
Now he’s doing a half way house type of speak. Admitting the obvious and not really delving deep. My own opinion at the end of the day.
@loudman12 yes I'd agree fully here with your idea on the chap.
Naive and still thinks left wing = good. He still has not figured out workers are just there to be manipulated for power purposes
Prince Harry finally making sense.
He doesn't sound so posh these days... or quite so woke.
That's what being working class, dependent on your next paycheck will do to your life view. Welcome to the world, Ginge. Might want to tell Whinge to keep stum. You're losing credibility as a "working couple" at an astonishing rate. Particularly with your neighbors. Remind your daughter that her first name is Princess. It's not, nor ever will be her title.😂😂😂😂
@@geordiecanuck2696 Who do you think the "Ginge" is ? Seriously, who do you think it is ?
He let go of that Harpy
Oh, that's such a brilliant comment!!! Really made me laugh out loud!!!!
Is Embery beating about the bush, avoiding the issue? Many working class English people simply want England to remain recognizably, dominantly English- economic issues are secondary. Small- scale immigration is not a problem, but mass immigration an existential threat. But we can accept the world, others will say, they will become English- don't be a bigot, a racist. I answer- only if you think being English is so loose and vague it has hardly any meaning at all. Could I, an atheist Brit, move to Pakistan and become every bit a Pakistani? Of course not.
I totally agree with you.
That’s the hypocrisy of the left, it’s OK to import millions of unassimilated migrants into England because as the left would say we don’t have a culture or identity anyway. They’re more than happy to dilute our culture and society year by year, but if you propose the idea of importing millions of English into another country it’s colonialism or genocide or something.
I’m always astonished that the chattering classes idolise Tuscan peasants, and Provencal peasants, whilst despising the equivalent in britain.
The movie Chocolate with Judy Dench and Johnny Depp, one long English middle class w*nk fantasy. The impression I get is the Norman's saw home as France for hundreds of years and now it has become an aspirational affectation. Also the middle class can be massive b*ll end's over there as there's no working class Brits to laugh at them, they're all in Spain and Cyprus.
And they idolise Europe yet conveniently gloss over the fact that in every major European country what would be classified as "far right" by them, either hold sway or are represented in significant numbers in various European parliaments. The working classes are just cannon fodder for when they want to fight a war, and legal fodder for when they want to ease their conscience for so called "war crimes".
They idolise their pastoral idea of those people, not those actual people.
They will quite happily adopt a dog or even a child from Romania or similar but wouldn't dream of helping the same in this country, even though there is the same need.
Perhaps they think foreign is exotic or special, a bit like some birds will bang anything abroad but pretend they are all virtuous at home, because its exotic. Bit like drinKing water out of a bottle is more exotic than getting it from a tap, despite the safe tap water being a more advanced option.
As a 65 year old, working class life long Labour voter, I no longer even recognise it !
I was brought up being told by my dad, and my granddad that Labour was the party OF the working class, FOR the working class. They were the party to protect blue collar workers from evil, unscrupulous, greedy bosses…..
But now the Labour Party detests the working class. Blue collar workers are way down the order on the Labour list, behind LGBTQ, Pride, BLM, Gaza, everything comes before White ,British, Straight, Working Class !!
I will NEVER vote Labour again, EVER !
I'm two years younger than you, same background. What are you talking about? Can you ve specific?
I'm the same. The Labour Party of today would consider my Dad and my Grandad as fascists.
This is the way Socialism and its variants always goes. Meritocracy is removed, special status to the 'oppressed', and economic malaise a byproduct.
Keir Hardie wanted to ban all immigration from countries where the average wage was lower than the UK to stop employers bringing in cheap Labour to under cut British workers, that was in 1899, quite a nuanced position that would benefit us today. The modern Labour lovies would call him a racist bigot, he would be turning in his grave at what the Labour Party has become.
lol another delusional lefty then he was. The real left are hateful and power crazed and will stop at nothing to get their way. How do you think they abandoned the “workers” so easily lol. It is hilarious when you see guys like this still clinging onto left wing ideals without realising how hollow and shallow their real views are and how they use emotional manipulation to achieve power. Left = desire for power at ANY cost.
Ironically, Dagenham (which the guy mentioned) has a Keir Hardy estate, you won't find many native BRits living there now.
There's 11 countries with a higher average wage... which country from north America or wealthy EU do you think are going to sign up for picking fruit on a UK farm?
Immigration in 1899 only meant immigration from Europe. The idea of Asian and African immigrants in 1899 was unthinkable.
Does Paul Embery accept that the desire that many indigenous English working class people have that England remain predominantly English in ethnic identity and culture is legitimate? I'm not sure he's quite clear about this. If you said to most people in this country right or left- 'hey apparently most people in Tunisia want Tunisia to remain predominantly Tunisian- what do you think about that?' I think most would accept it as natural and fine.(And for Tunisia, you could subsitute Korea, Senegal, etc etc). But for England it's a no-no. I've never understood exactly why.
Probably because the Elites never thought of themselves as English. Only the Peasants were and still are.
Big money wants workers who will work for less. Uncontrolled migration is a pro-business position, not a leftist one.
Because of white guilt. All these bleeding heart libs are still crying over what the British did two hundred years ago. They feel like Britain owes the colonised countries some sort of reparations and the oppressive horrible English culture doesnt deserve to be preserved . Its like the old Monty python skit though , What have the Romans ever done for us ?
They've got the white guilt nonsense going on. Basically a form of original sin where the whites of today are responsible for the sins of their forefathers and need to atone by allowing the UK to be colonised.
Because England is white and the people in charge are racist against whites. Its that simple.
Great to hear from leftwingers who break from the script. My only slight disagreement with Embry is that he says the effect of migration on wages in this country is negligible. I would argue, it's just a matter of time before the effects start to kick in. The country is currently being fed a diet of myths like "British people don't want to do those jobs", "We need more migrants to fill vacancies", and greedy UK bosses going on about how their Eastern European workers are "more hardworking than my English ones". A grand narrative is being spun to make us unemployable.
He said overall the effects are negligible and its probably true for many people in those sort of middle class, "white collar" jobs, but he did say it can have a far greater effect on those on low paid jobs.
But yes there is always this narrative the British don't want those jobs, they did it round here during Covid, farmers complained they couldn't get workers in the fields, but people round here were asking to do the job, but the farmers wouldn't contact them, the media were claimed the farmers didn't pay East Europeans low wages, which is true, but they also provided the East Europeans accommodation, which they took rent back off them in return.
The tangible effect was seen quite recently, back when European lorry drivers were leaving the UK due to poor pay and conditions, resulting in their employers scrambling to offer high wages to attract British drivers. We saw the effect in real time but people seem to have forgotten all about it.
I think this old reuploaded interview was conducted before the Centre for Policy Studies report that found that migration has not delivered growth in GDP per capita, while putting strain on services; it accounts for 89% of the housing deficit, and immigrants from the Middle East and North Africa are twice as likely to be economically inactive as someone born in the UK.
@@Gloops01 Yes, I didn't assume Embry was supporting mass-migration, but rather, I wondered why he threw in that qualifier.
Ironically in the factory where I work the Poles have been on strike with the British as neither group was happy with the wages offered.
I'll never understand the elites' distain for the working class when they rise and sleep under the blanket of comfort and security that is provided entirely by said working class. Its like Fight Club: "we haul your trash, connect your calls, drive your ambulances......we guard you while you sleep. DO NOT FUCK WITH US."
Immigration is not negligible in this country !
He said the impact on overall wage levels was negligible, not immigration itself.
Neither are negligible. This dude is either deluded or a liar
@@docsavage8640 this guy doesn't sing to the Farage mantra that all of our problems are the fault of immigration! This dude is either deluded or a liar!!
This interview is from November 2020, before the almost a million a year immigration started happening, so although it was still fairly recent, 4 years ago seems like a lifetime ago now, certainly in terms of the immigration story.
@@fredneecher1746he’s wrong
I'm going to spend the next 4-5 years saying "you voted for it".
So many people haven't clocked on that it's just the two liberal uniparty system, with slightly different views on the same elitist topics. The two main parties, will not save you.. they're completely ideologically captured.
Long term, it's very worrying if the general population don't clock on and we keep repeating the same cycle. Leaving the country may be the only option if things keep on like this for the next 10-15 years.
The trouble is they (Politicians) never enter the areas mostly affected, after all they are just filthy peasants living there to their minds. Democracy isn’t working anymore because it’s been completely subverted. They don’t even canvas anymore they just post a flyer through your door expecting you to vote for them, most of whom you have never seen or heard of before.
The trouble is governments hang about for 10-20 years and you get a new generation of voters with no point of reference, thinking the other lot will be their saviour. I remember evenings by candlelight and sandwiches for dinner during the 1970s Labour discontent; my dad being made redundant in the Thatcher wasteland, me being unemployed in the early '90s recession. Things seemed better in the early Blair years, but it was bought on HP which had to be paid back with Cameron austerity... Around and around we go. "Shat on by Tories, shovelled up by Labour", as Withnail's Uncle Monty put it. This country is practically ungovernable now.
@@Gloops01 I get your points. i think the things we're facing now are quite literally unrecoverable short term. This isn't some bad peroid we can sit out for 5 years, or some economic reform we just need to be patient with.
It seems ridiclous but 40 years of Net zero, zero growth, anti business and the same sort of immigration levels and policies that disregard normal people and trust me, it wont be ridiclous. You're getting to pre nazi germany levels of instablity, but with a radically segreated country with no shared history. History tells us, and has shown us these conditions are utter chaos often bloody and very violent, it's not something you want to live through.
Now something has to go very wrong for us to keep doing this for 40 years. but it's entirely possible.
I have come across a lot of various Westerners lately that have bailed to Russia. And they all seem quite happy. Though I guess if too many leave, you become the problem you seek to escape.
Gees, I have been saying that since last century.
It only took a quarter century to catch on.
Plumbers make more than teachers. 'Working class' is an outdated Victorian paradigm: unskilled labour with zero social mobility. That simply isn't the case in the UK any more. Someone working on a building site in current year is a world away from a navvy. If anything the "educated class" is falling behind, not skilled labour. AI can do excel, it can't lay a hardwood floor.
I agree, but the problem with AI is there will be not many left able pay for that hardwood floor, if a big part of society loses their jobs, it will eventually affect us all.
I agree, I've worked in IT / Radiocomms etc for 40 years. There are many so called 'skilled' workers, in offices and so on, who have been doing the same job at their keyboards for years and years, and they have almost no idea how any of it works. Conversely, mates that work in the traditional trades roles, possessing the construction, engineering, H&S skills and so on, could leave these office idiots standing, but of course, why would they want to work in an office ha ha!!
Not if Reform etal get there way.
Oh and robots are set to do a load more stuff in construction. Including brick laying, digger driving etc.
Driving cars, taxis, lorries, buses etc itself will pretty soon be almost totally automated. Starting in cities but moving out relatively quickly.
Agriculture is also set for huge impacts from AI and advancing robotics.
Sure AI driven systems may not yet be able to lay a hardwood floor but improved design and manufacture will probably make laying a hardwood floor easier for everyone, deskilling jobs comes with the Territory. Who thought in the 60's or even really the 80's that many of us would routinely assemble our own furniture?
We are in the very early days of new technology revolution. One that is advancing at an accelerating rate and one that will have many predictable but also many unpredicted outcomes.
And yes many middle class professions are set to vanish or be radically changed, deskilled etc by the coming technologies. Essentially no part of society is immune.
@@alsoascot02yes, I saw some Boston Dynamics prototypes doing some construction tasks. Although those are more expensive and probably need more testing and compliance rules to take over, since they may pose physical harm risk. But it should be a 1 to 2 decades delay compared to taking over “office jobs”
No matter how high Keir Starmer rose in the world, he never lost the commie touch.
😄
because he never had to earn his money. it was given to him by his wealthy father.
Communisms not that bad... if you're the Stalin....
His membership within the WEF has paid dividends for him.
He was a very vocal, very sophisticated Bolshevik until about 1998, so no!
It hasn't changed he's just a harder version of Gordon Brown
I am an ex Labour voter, voted LAB all my life. That party has absolutely no values that relate to mine now. I have a feeling I am not alone.
Next Step : None of them ever did or ever will have any values that relate to mine. They all want you to shut up and give them power. Because all they want is power.
It's the same everywhere. I'm an old School Socialist from Spain and the Left is dead to me. Now we just have Patriotism vs Globalism, hopefully with some working class values.
I photographed the Canadian trucker convoy for the daily Mail and let me tell you this was definitely blue collar versus white collar.
The Daily Mail being famously blue collar.
I live in a working class seaside town and no one I know wants to stop immigration because of economic reasons, Its because the social, cultural and yes even racial reasons. I would say its the same in most English towns because people have eyes and can see what is actually happening.
A long-rooted people are being rapidly diluted- this is certainly a kind of assault, an insult (in the medical sense), arguably an outrage. Yet to even notice it gets you labelled a horrible person. Neither Labour nor Conservative see English identity as having any great value or reality. For them it's so open, it's ideally so welcoming of incomers that it's virtually empty of meaning. Even Farage for the most part doesn't voice the existential objection many have to mass immigration- rather he talks of the services not being able to cope...
Its gets me mad just thinking about it mate, when you look up the definition of Genocide its basically a description of what's happening all over England.
“No one I know wants to stop immigration? Is that what you meant to write?
@@thomascain5313 No read all the sentence mate.
@@thomascain5313 He's saying people do want to stop immigration but not for economic reasons- rather that they don't like the change in culture etc.
I remember listening to this entire interview when it first cam out. Excellent piece. Thanks for re-posting.
Oh, and by the way, vote Reform (or SDP)...😊
"Good for the GDP" does NOT necessarily mean good for the people.
Put everyone in the whole world into one country, and that's going to be wonderful for the country's GDP... but not for the people.
What's good for one group, ie immigrants, can be bad for another, such as the natives.
GDP also includes government spending. So all the extra money spent on hospitals, the criminal justice system, education, benefits - housing benefit, income support etc etc due to a increase in our population
@@jazztheglass6139 Also the required increases in infrastructure... more/bigger roads, sewage, water, trash disposal...
And, of course, all of "special help" funding for people to help the immigrants get settled..
Yes, people get paid for doing that, which gives them a strong $ incentive to promote much more of it...
@@Nyet-Zdyes exactly right. It's a phenomenal amount
Paul you are now like me 'Far right"
As someone who used to be on the political left but haven't been for many years and unlikely to return in its current guise Paul Embery is a very balanced and pragmatic guy who sees both sides of the coin and things for what they are. To have any sense of credibility moving forwards the left need more people like Paul at the forefront. Labour are on borrowed time, they will have one term only.
Labour used to be the Party or the working class. It no longer reflects their concerns in any way.
The working class no longer labour at the coal face, the blas furnace, the quarry, the chemical plant. They lost those jobs when the country deindustrialised. They now have a white van, are self employed and naturally now moderate right wingers. There been a huge shift and that’s why Labour moved into the wine not beer, avocado not cornflakes or porridge, home owners not renters set.
Tolerance of immigration is not as prevalent as the chattering classes think, they’re benefiting, lower echelons of so carry the burden and costs. It’s culture that’s threatened, to paraphrase another book it’s the somewheres feeling threatened by the elite anywheres.
I read your book in 2020 and it’s a good read, we saw how the elite despised the rest of their countrymen, branding them deplorables, the uneducated the gammons back in 2016. Sanctimony on steroids.
They’re going to live through it again when Reform have a growing presence in the HOC and in 2024 provide another shock culminating in significant presence if not a majority in 2029.
Globalism v Nationalism in a nutshell. If you want Democracy you vote for Nationalism. VOTE REFORM
You make me depressed. USSR is a Democracy. Vietnam is a Democracy. North Korea is a Democracy.
The 🇬🇧 is a Constitutional Monarchy.
Anytime you ask for Democracy, you remember that Adolph was a liberal and that Mussolini was a social democrat.
They were both Marxists, and Keir Starmer (a Pabloist, Trotskyist) is a Social Democrat. Small, progressive steps towards further and further left. So slow, you don’t notice it happening.
Go on mate.
You keep asking for Democracy and know you’re the people you wondered about in history class, wondering how good people could have voted National Socialists into power.
Democracy gets you that.
Why is Democracy the first step to Communism? 🇬🇧 We The People 🇺🇸
Who are the people? You and me.
Who ARE NOW The People? The Party.
We The People! The People’s Republic. Power To The People……
Democracy. 😂
Vote Reform. Get Labour :D
How did isolationist nationalism work for you with brexit... self-immolation be a fair assessment?
I am from estonia. When estonia joined EU there were for years difficulties for estonians or any other who joined EU to still work in old EU countries. I think at least 7 years. Eventhough we were in EU, because the old EU countries did not want to mess up their job market by new "cheap" labour. Remember that. These things were put on new members of EU in 2004... now it is like free for all... come, take benefits, you do not even need to work... how the heck one can think this wont collapse sooner rather than later.
As a right-winger, this guy is brilliant and what the left needs to grab with both hands and perhaps sannity may return to politics.
As an American, I have been perpetually confused by the tendency of UK liberals to import American racial and imigration issues. Here in the grand ol' US of A, it is racist and peculiar for anyone who isn't a member of one of a Native peoples, to see their race as the default race of the US. Equally, anyone whose ancestors immigrated here from the "old world" feeling they have a right to say now that other's cannot also immigrate is very silly, right on it's face.
But England is where English people are from. Wales is where Welsh people are from. Just as China has the right, at any time, to limit the number of non Chinese people who can move there, just as Japan has a right to insist that an Englishman, moving to Japan, assimilate into the existing Japanese culture, English people have a right to insist that England remain as English as they like. Yall are not "a nation of immigrants." That's what we are. Yall are a nation of origin, just like any other nation of origin on the planet. Any standard that you accept for a "non white" country should apply equally to a "white" country.
I'm also American and scratch my head when I hear Brits saying how great immigration is and how Britain should be more "diverse"? You don't see any other ethnicities saying this type of thing because it just doesn't make any sense. Honestly I've kind of lost respect for the Brits and Europe in general. Don't worry I've lost respect for the US as well.
Reality is that the people who are organized and have a army has the power. We see that in the Israel vs Palestine conflict, and it was the army that finaly said that they where lojal to the constitution and not the president in the jan 6 coup i 2020 in the USA.
The world is a hostile place at it’s core because humans are « tribal» by nature. And they are easy to manipulate by politicians and other power players.
When the powerfull need more worker bees to hold vages down, they could either import it. Or simply « offshore» , the entire factory and invested capital.
@NMn-dc5qo That just tells me that your immigration system is out of control, and your government is bowing to outside influences. Would think it was acceptable for millions of ethnically English people to move to Japan and insist that the culture change to accommodate them?
Spot on, most people just want to see a bit of control, the population keeps going up but services, housing etc are simply being stretched to the limit. It’s not about race it’s about numbers.
The race to be the part of the population that gets more than others.
Yes, numbers are, of course, a priority, with Britain having an unsustainable growth in the population over the last few years. But whereas race itself is not an issue, although the left constantly try to suggest that Brits wishing to reduce immigration are doing so simply because they object to an individuals skin colour. However, culture is very much a matter of concern. We have allowed in millions who not only do not share our culture and values, but often despise them and us. This has led to an increasing breakdown in social cohesion in this country, an extremely damaging state of affairs. And now, with a general election coming up, it is noticeable how secretariansm has very obviously raised its ugly head in this nation.
It is significantly about race for many people and I've come around to the view that it's a legitimate argument. The English have a connection to the land going back (to a considerable degree) thousands of years. That means something. It's a precious thing and receives too little recognition. If the populations of England and eg Khazakstan swapped places, which would now be England ?(equally, which would be Khazakstan?) The answer is surely neither. England is the land plus its historic people. For example, for immigrants, the landscape, ancient monuments etc won't have the same meaning as for indigenous people.
@@applegrovebard The hard left are to blame for undermining our culture and heritage, they simply use multi culture as a scapegoat for what they’ve always wanted to do, meanwhile those incoming are scratching their heads wondering why we’re doing these things, all this de-colonising everything is bonkers, most people nowadays don’t (or wouldn’t) give the old British Empire a passing thought if our noses weren’t being rubbed in it all the time. History is fascinating, we should accept it for what it is, learn from it and move on.
Being gay isn't in any way illegal, and it hasn't been for many many years this obsession with it is tedious.
Paul is always eloquent and intelligent on the important issues in society and politics.
The importance of family, homeland and a moral code cannot be overestimated in creating a personal sense of security, and the degreed classes, in their obsession with multiculturalism and disdain for religion, have conceived a hatred for the classes who still value them. This is not just the UK; it's world-wide.
I was Labour from 16 until 43 in 1996. I was aghast at what Blair-Brown were doing to the country and it got worse under Cameron-Clegg and now it is going down the drain with Starmer. I was always opposed to the EEC-EU and became UKIP in 2015 and Brexit-Reform in 2019.
Far too late. This debate needs to have been held 25 years ago.
the main consequences of unrestricted immigration are lawlessness, housing shortages, healthcare shortages, and community division, loss of social cohesion. these hit the poorest members hardest.
I worked in Barking & Dagenham, and I read the history of these two villages outside of London, which are now unrecognisable from what they were.
🇮🇪 Sinn Fein have fallen into this very trap in the Republic of Ireland.
Formerly the were violently ethno- nationalist and targeted working class areas with a tax-the-rich, housing for all message.
Then they went after the middle class and woke student vote with liberal immigration and gender policy campaigns. They have no belief in these stances but just used them to drive a consensus for a united ireland vote.
Their working class vote has collapsed as a result.
So sad to see the despicable treatment of the Irish breaks my heart. They deserved better than the sell outs who forced millions on them whilst abandoning the needs of the real Irish people.
The MODERN left are professional types who have done VERY well since May 1997 (New Labour) (as that new saying goes "How can you spot a Labour voter these days ? They drive Range Rovers)....27 years of Liberal-Left Government has seen the 'doubling' of Lawyers and Accountants, plus a host of pointless jobs such as DEI Officer and 'Compliance Officer' . OLD Labour were people working with their hands MAKING THINGS that were then often Exported and so made us better off. Little wonder my Law Firm partner mate is a Leftoid - he and his family are utterly unaffected by Wide Open Borders and the 101 negative effects of that.
College educated Marxism
This is the key point: those whom champion and enact “open border“ legislation and push for unmitigated illegal immigration, aren’t the ones that are actually having to deal with the repercussions of those policies. It’s the folks along the border(s), low income wage earners and the medical professionals and educators trying to keep and and just survive in country’s healthcare and educational systems.
I read that book and it was a wake-up call for me. Can't thank Paul enough.
I am not a Labour voter, the last time i voted for them was in the late 1970s. But I've always thought Mr Embery is one of the few Labour party members who speak for the working class, I know he hasn't had an easy time in the Labour party himself because of his views. It's just a shame their aren't more like him, if their were, i might even think of voting for them again.
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@@timvella1817 Unless Mr Embery is in charge, there is no chance of that
LGB have noting to do with T's
Despite all the Tory woes we're seeing now. The Labour party have deeper issues that are more likely to destroy them in the long term. When you look at Labour conferences and their activist base. They are too bourgeois and city centric in terms of their outlook.
'Sir Keith Starmer' how much working class labour has he ever undertaken? People didn't vote for labour they simply didn't want the Cons.
I grew up in a wealthy Liberal Arts college/law school town outside Chicago. I knew a lot of profs/students and I chose to be a mom. My kids are now 50. What I've noticed is that the "elite values" seem to be "Let this Birkin Bag represent my worth as a person" and as things change the "Elite" are threatened by this materialist costume does not add the value to their life that it used to.
It is much easier to punch down, than to be a more interesting or useful person. Orwell wrote about this 80 years ago.
These elites tend to be Conservatives though. Just look at Conservative politicians. Theyre all from rich families
And they have spent most of the last 14 years trying to employ 'triangulation' and being indistinguishable from New Labour politically. @@morenitomoreno1282
@@jackdeniston6150 Punch down??? LOL IF you knew my story you would apologize.
@@morenitomoreno1282 And they intend to keep it that way.
The feelings mutual.
Who is driving this shift towards the far left and totalitarianism? Why have our major parties capitulated to "whats in it for me".
His analysis is spot on. this is why the working class has abandoned Labour
What's remarkable is how few Labour voters actually understand what it is they're voting for.
Close the gate the rest of Europe
This is the key point: those who enact “open border“ policies and push for unmitigated illegal immigration, aren’t the ones that are actually having to deal with the repercussions of those policies. It’s the folks along the border(s), low income wage earners and the teachers and medical professionals in the country’s healthcare and educational systems.
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A mirror image of the two-party conflict here in the US.
Paul Embury completely neglects the attack on our Institutions by the Queer-Theory Activists, especially their capture of Education.
Two highly recommended U-tube videos:
1 'What is Wrong with the Labour Party? Rosie Duffield is a Legend', from The Famous Artist Birdie Rose.
2 'The Transvestite Headteacher in the School Library' about the Primary school in Kinlochbervie. From the Scottish Family Party. They are a Christian group, but you don't have to be at all religious to deplore what is happening.
Im a white, middle class, graduate woman, who never voted leftist in my life, in fact while I was a student, I had lunch with Norman Tebbit as part of the Conservative Students where I was studying.
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@@johnmac333 thank you.
I’ve been saying this for years now, that Labour are no longer the party of the working class - they are the party of the university class (middle class). I left Labour some time ago - I cancelled my membership and have stopped voting for them. I feel politically homeless.
Funny it's still even called the Labour party.
Chatting to some local men in the pubs last autumn and winter, it was the working-class, skilled technicians and tradesmen who were clued-up about politics at home and abroad. They inform themselves and won't be talked down to. Meanwhile the middle classes all believe what the BBC et al tell them and don't look into the details, just as long as their kids are at "Uni" and they have a nice foreign holiday each year. The hope for the future is the young people who are NOT going to university, unless it is STEM subjects. In my town, no one has been talking about politics in public, and some people seem quite scared somehow.
I certainly don't believe in hard core trade unionism, I do like Paul's take on things. I miss this old skool leftyism.
Paul needs to discover the SDP
The BNP and Enoch Powell were the only chances to Britain to save itself after the disaster of WWII it seems. Tragic. Hopefully Britain will save itself before Britons become a minority on their own island in the middle of this century, should all stay on its current course.
Excellent discussion.
This Canadian LeftUgee has so much admiration for the English working class you absolute legends!
Leftist and green ideas (ideology) are luxury issues, thus uncommon with people who struggle with their economic situation.
The true disconnect is that now a “leftist” has to agree on every point of the dogma agenda. If they differ on even one of these they are considered to be right wing extremists. These factions ( right wing to a slightly lesser extent) demand complete agreement where in the past these were coalitions of people that agreed on more than they didn’t but weren’t in total lockstep.
That's the slippery slope we've been warning about for many years. Give them an inch and they will move to take a mile.
Living in a middle class Labour supporting area, and fitting that demographic myself, I am dismayed by the shamelessly hostile attitude of many people I know towards white working class people and their values. This was perhaps most blatant during the Brexit campaign and its aftermath, when it became such common coin that only racists and imbeciles would have voted Leave that people just assumed by default that all their friends were Remainers.
"Prince Harry is right!"
Fair comment from Embery
Jaoan is a clean and organised free-from-immigrant country
I'm 100% on your side of politics, but a country with no growth, ZERO permanent migration and declining living standards since the mid 80s can't be our flagbearer
@@NickPYates Better by several orders of magnitude than what you have now
Very few people would want to move to Japan needing to know Japanese. Its hard to learn and many in Japan speak little or no English.
People can’t buy groceries and gas and housing and provide for their children. How dense do you have to be to not figure this out.
ALL politicians look down their noses at the lifeblood of this country the working class. I don't trust anyone who says glarss when we all know there's no R in glass. See it can go both ways
As a disillusioned lifelong Tory, I would vote for Paul if he was Labour leader. Starmer, I would never vote for in a million years.
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It is contempt for the people that need to work to meet the end's day.
Some people forget that some rich families started with hard work and got lucky.
They're from privileged parents.
Paul Emery's point (at14:00) about peoples sense of "order" is absolutely bang-on.
"it's not about race, it's about order" Brilliant!
I value Paul’s honesty and very much appreciate him speaking out about exactly what has happened. However, you can see he feels the need to sugarcoat it, probably because he doesn’t want to offend the countless snowflakes in his own party. I was Labour before but now detest them and their middle-class virtue signalling members. I wish Reform has a better chance of being elected.
In Canada we have the NDP, the New Democratic Party, which started out as something very sympathetic and is now just awful.
Thank you
As Hilary Clinton termed us, "We are a vast basket of deplorables." I suppose we should get used to it.
Labour should change it's name. It hasn't stood for the working man for a very long time.
Normally wen anybody associated to labour opens their mouth I switch off, but this man had my full attention,
We've had a cost of living crisis since the tories got in. It just didn't affect the middle class, so it wasn't a crisis to anyone but us poors.
Over 200,00 people died because of austerity. The vast majority disabled. The left was silent.
For some reason, those people who instigate and promote lower tier issues seem to have more influence than they should. Both the mainstream and social media are mainly to blame, but I'm not sure how it contaminates establishments like the police and schools.
Because HR, admin and training colleges were early captures by Mar*ist university graduates.
University is upstresm of culture.
This title reminded me there is a journalistic term "flyover states"
I haven’t voted labour for 25 years.
Only option is reform now.
I agreed with everything this guy said, but in a previous podcast with Triggernometry he called ‘T Robinson’ a racist and it really annoyed me, he gave the typical middle class lefty smear of Robinson, so I commend him for speaking up for the working class but he clearly doesn’t get it to the extent the working class do.
A great interview for a start. Paul talking common sense that sadly no longer is the case in politics. As said before...after 4th July , God help us all .. then the fightback begins
Labour used to stick up for the working class & poorer people but now seem complicit in making us all poorer.
They constantly complain about the rising cost of housing & rents, the rising cost of living but don't seem to think it can possibly be anything to do with the high level of immigration we have had over the last few years or the frantic race for net zero. This means that however many houses we build every year it will never keep up with demand from huge increases in population & so house prices & rents will continue to rise..
Similarly, we are all ,rich & poor forced into having to pay green taxes, more for energy & more for food all because of this frantic race to be net zero. It is all just basic economics & common sense
These issues are neither right or left but it seems that the left just want to blame the Tories for all the Countries troubles & It is only the 'far right' that is listening to the real reasons !
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true, vote Reform UK
This guy like most in this debate, (including Reform) does not seem to question why the UK's population is rising rapidly when it should be stagnant or even falling. And the oft quoted stat that the UK is set to become the most populous nation in Western Europe around 2050 comes from where and why is it a target?
If it is a target it can only happen via further mass immigration which given the shambolic approach so far hardly bodes well for future economic prosperity or social cohesion?
Doesn't bode well for much it's totally shambolic with no plan. How about just protect OUR boarders. Seems like a simple solution. They have been very vocal and active about Ukraine.
The thing he mentions about Japan is very true. I spent a year in Japan as part of my degree last year and a lot of people throw out the term 'xenophobic' in reference to their desire of keeping their culture the way it is. Japanese people are some of the most welcoming and polite people I have ever met. You do have to follow the rules and respect their culture, as they like things exactly the way they are and aren't interested in foreign changes much. It's not a bad thing at all. I'm in their country, of course I am going to behave and follow the rules and would feel rude if I didn't. I wish we here in the UK would take note of that. I feel like Britain's identity is slowing being destroyed in place of 'Diversity' and 'Progressiveness' being British really doesn't mean anything anymore
Finally someone from the Labour Party talking sense