Trump immunity: Expert explains Supreme Court decision
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- A Supreme Court decision has made it all but certain that Donald Trump will not face trial ahead of November's election.
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The ruling found that former presidents are shielded from prosecution for official acts but do not have immunity for unofficial acts - but what does that actually mean?
We spoke to Neal Katyal who was acting Solicitor General of the United States between 2010-11.
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He sounded worried.. It's the first I have ever seen Neal like this.
AWESOME. Now Biden is free to EXECUTE TRUMP. Ban the Republican party. Close down the Supreme court and LIQUIDATE the 6 justices. Make himself President for life. Nominate his successor. Close both chambers. Deport Moscow Marg and MAGA Mike to Russia. LETS GOOOOOOO
This is HIGHLY worriesome. As another comment said, "Rome is falling."
Yes, libs and dems were worried on day be
Trump walkedcyhe escalator down. You all opened the can of worms, and now, when they are biting them, they are worried.
@@americanatheart110 Cheering on fascism is not a good look. Grow up before it's too late.
@@americanatheart110 Flip the coin and are you really saying that if a 6-3 Dems appointed Supreme Court had made this decision in favour of Obama or Biden then you would be OK with that?
If so, perhaps the six Republican appointed, three Trump appointed justices Supreme Court has just given Biden free rein to do as he pleases, like having the Justice Department throw convicted felon Trump in prison and call it an official act in his role as president.
there goes the illusion that the law applies to everyone.
All hail Emperor Biden!
It doesn’t apply to public servants in the UK either. It’s even worse here. See s21 of the crown proceedings act 1947. To be fair, I did think that was the point of America gaining independence
not above impeachment, president must meet that standard of justice, bar a little higher.
@@nuqwestr He can just get rid of anyone that wants to impeach him.
@@RegebroRepairs "get rid"? how?
This is why your judicial should be fully independent from politics, unfortunately SC presidential nominations crosses that bridge.
What is the oath of office for? ...TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION. I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion
Which trump took as seriously as his (3x) wedding vows.
@labryinth BOT
Exactly - ‘foreign and domestic’. What stops Biden from saying as an official act I need to defend the country from the threat that is Trump and jail him or worse and he has immunity as per this decision today?
Ever listened to these justices arguing a case? Highly recommend it. They're arguments are blatantly steamroll the consitution's text. They say whatever they feel like, nobody can touch them.
So. How' does that work on our border on the USA 🇺🇸 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The things corporate corruption will buy you.
Everything, it seems.
Oh, he will @@timblainshow858
@@timblainshow858 Sure, Ivan
Buys you quite a lot if you've got the surname 'Biden'
@@gregc.5684 commie
the court needs to read the Constitution as written, not as they want it to be. It does not sperate from offical or unoffical actions.
Seem they make up statements with definitions they like, such as qualified immunity
That is not how the Supreme Court works, they don't always follow originalism or textualism.
they literally said He has the presumption of immunity due to broad scope of Presidential powers, not absolute so he cannot shoot someone on Main St just because he is President, but he can contest election results as Chief Law Enforcement official of the Federal government. So likely the J6 fiasco will be thrown out entirely.
They don't care.
Don’t hear you lot throwing that request around for the second amendment…I get it…interpret it how I want you to is what you really mean.
Rome is falling.
If there is no immunity then Obama can be charged for the murder of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki
If you think it hasn't already fallen then you're the eternal optimist.
The legal system is weaponised and law enforcement agencies politicised. How do you think it will get worse... Oh yes, 3 wars, an energy crisis and economic collapse with bank failures just over the horizon.
Good luck stepping back from that...
It's in freefall here.
Thanks to Biden
Did you know, not a single civilization in recorded history has survived the ignorance of their own people? It's like Civilizations have stages of development just like people do. Infancy, growing pains, stability, degeneration and collapse. When times are hard, people learn to get along or fail together. When things are good, people can experiment with their own things. When things are easy, people stop trying and stop learning. When people stop learning, it starts with the disadvantaged people first, but eventually leaks to the ruling classes. When the rulers are ignorant, and have the support of an ignorant populace, the society begins to fall apart.
I’d love a poll about how many people believed before today that the president already had immunity? I thought they did.
I think the US needs to rethink seriously how supreme court justices are elected and how long they can serve.
Bit late now isn’t it.
Really? Starting a riot is an official act? UNBELIEVABLE!
He did not start anything. He neither directed nor led any such thing. Only in your mouth frothing fantasy land does it play out that way.
Typical brainwashed lefty lie.
@@jadams60 reps learned a lot from their führer, all lying excellent 🤣. Congratulation for having your own Hitler now.
Yep. They look at it as fixing a rigged election - which everyone knows wasn't rigged.
Smooth brain
Perhaps Trump needs to watch his step if the president now has complete immunity
Cry more
Sounds like the true fascists are revealing their nature. It's interesting where your minds immediately go to when you think you have carte blanche...
Oh, you do have a point. I've been telling people that all officials have legal immunity. It is somewhat implied in the US constitution (re: "They (senators and congressmen) shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest...") and the constitutions of states, counties, other countries have similar weasel words. Officials have given themselves legal immunity and we all just have to trust that they won't act in self-interest, but will execute their duties of office in service to the interests of the public. BUT, they are not obligated to, nor bound with punishment should they fail to perform their duties. So, here we are, the court rules that Trump has... oh, not just OFFICIAL IMMUNITY, but ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY. That's an extension of the law that applies to court officials. I have no skin in the game. I know that US presidents are selected, not elected. Otherwise, I'd be wondering if Biden's people would take advantage of their official immunity and eliminate the competition.
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ChatGPT:
In the context of immunity in the US legal system, there are several concepts that are important to understand:
1. **Absolute Immunity**: Absolute immunity provides complete protection from civil or criminal liability for certain government officials or individuals in certain roles, even if their actions are unlawful or harmful. This type of immunity is typically granted to judges, legislators, and prosecutors when they are performing their official duties. It ensures that these officials can perform their roles without fear of being sued or prosecuted.
2. **Qualified Immunity**: Qualified immunity is a legal doctrine that shields government officials from civil liability when performing discretionary functions, as long as their actions do not violate clearly established statutory or constitutional rights of which a reasonable person would have known. This doctrine aims to strike a balance between protecting government officials from frivolous lawsuits and holding them accountable for unlawful conduct.
3. **Sovereign Immunity**: Sovereign immunity refers to the principle that the government cannot be sued without its consent. It stems from the idea that the government is immune from lawsuits that would interfere with its ability to govern. Sovereign immunity can vary between federal and state governments, with some states waiving sovereign immunity in certain circumstances through legislation.
4. **Official Immunity**: Official immunity is similar to qualified immunity but applies to state and local officials rather than federal officials. It protects these officials from civil liability for discretionary acts performed within the scope of their authority, provided they do not violate clearly established constitutional rights.
These levels of immunity are crucial in balancing the need for government officials to perform their duties effectively and without fear of personal liability, while also ensuring accountability and protection of individuals' rights. The scope and application of these immunities can vary based on specific laws, court interpretations, and the context in which the government official is acting.
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@@grantrosendahl2496 it means biden can kill trump and not face trail.
I wondered this too
The majority decision looks partisan because it is local and partisan. It flies in the face of the intent of the Constitution.
Impeachment is the standard of justice for a president in the Constitution. That has not changed.
@@nuqwestrIt does when the president can claim something to is an official act even if its a clear violation of laws or our constitution.
@@maliktp13 We do not have a king, once impeached, the president is no longer president and loses immunity, can be charged and arrested.
@@nuqwestr yeah and for prison after they get out. That has changed and there will be no more impeachment because they will declare it ALL presidential.
@@maliktp13 Well good thing the President doesn't get to decide what is and isn't an official action. That's for the Court.
How is campaigning an official act of the president?!
And there's the point of this tactic. Now they have to formally figure out which acts are official and which are not. That will wrap it up for months and likely won't be resolved before the election. If he wins, he can stop the investigation or even pardon himself, potentially.
What do you call "campaigning"? Everything you don't like?
Because presidents campaign while they are in office. He is also the chief executive of the country that is supposed to make sure the laws are faithfully executed. If he had a concern that the law was being broken, and he told someone to investigate it, you might want to tell him to go pound sand, but he's still the chief law enforcement officer of the US government. That's exactly what official capacity is: He gets to investigate matters. It's his job he was elected to do.
@@timblainshow858 AWESOME. Now Biden is free to EXECUTE TRUMP. Ban the Republican party. Close down the Supreme court and LIQUIDATE the 6 justices. Make himself President for life. Nominate his successor. Close both chambers. Deport Moscow Marg and MAGA Mike to Russia. LETS GOOOOOOO
@@fffhurst AWESOME. Now Biden is free to EXECUTE TRUMP. Ban the Republican party. Close down the Supreme court and LIQUIDATE the 6 justices. Make himself President for life. Nominate his successor. Close both chambers. Deport Moscow Marg and MAGA Mike to Russia. LETS GOOOOOOO
GOP, the old saying goes or what the biased Supreme Court rules , "Be careful what you wish for"
While he's at it, Biden should be sure the entire SCOTUS is eliminated and replaced by cronies. OK, only the majority should be replaced, and SOTOMAYOR should be the new CJ.....
We love democrat tears 😭
All presidents will now be immune….. they forget Biden will also technically be allowed to break the law if he wants to stop Trump!!
Even the Supreme court isn't going to like what they get. but it will be too late
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only person in the UK who has immunity from criminal law is the Monarch. Interesting parallel, at least to me...
Good luck, USA.
He does wish to be king. Hopefully he won't get back into office again. I want to move to England. At least there the laws are followed.
@@kayon5388 Drivel. Just because you believe the lies in your echo chamber doesn't make it true, it just makes you gullible. Trump would rather be playing golf.
@@HiltonBenchley it isn't drivel! If you want to maximise your time on the golf course, and in the twilight of your life too, you do not run for a second term as US President.
But Donald Trump IS running for a second term as US President.
@@artgreen6915 He clocked record numbers of hours on the golf course for a US president and all his legal troubles will disappear when he's elected.
@@HiltonBenchley and cheating at it like everything else he does.
To sum up: immunity for official acts only. There.
And how do they define official acts?
@@honved1the same way they didn't prosecute Obama for killing American citizens 👍🏻
@@honved1That’s for lower courts to refine
@@honved1immunity has to be within the constitution and not left for courts to sway one way or the other.
I think Biden should cancel the election. As much as it pains me to say that it's the only way that we can fight this radical corrupt supreme Court
Can anyone explain this. If a president in office while election results are declared, refuses to accept the results, can he have power to do anything? If so why would any president in power give his office to coming president that results confirm? Every president can then continue ruling indefinitely untill he himself chooses to step aside. Just like kings
Arguably yes and IMO that's where this is so odd. Let's say a sitting president believes the election was stolen or that his opponent is working for a foreign government. I'd say that in both of those cases he could argue that taking action to stay in office is an official act of protecting the country. This opens the door for what we see in other countries where a leader holds office pending "free and fair" elections that never come.
He can have the results investigated, but he can't stop the results from being certified without approval from Congress and the VP. The President has no Constitutional authority regarding the involvement of certifying elections.
I guess Benedict Thomas gave up being an originalist. He decided to burn the constitution in front of us and declare his love of Kings. Red hat, Red coat!
Are you an originaiist?
Does anybody remember when Trump said he could just think it and it was an official act of the presidency and it seems like the Supreme Court just confirmed that the king makes all decisions final
It's terribly sad that you don't understand humour or when a person is talking tongue in cheek.
Trump was right
@@garethmccartan3636he wasn’t. He was trying to make an argument to justify that he had the right to those documents. It wasn’t a joke. Good luck America.
He says a lot of stuff, remember when Hitler was getting his political opponents arrested?
@@parvizdeamerhow could you possibly know what he was thinking?
The sword of justice has a double edge. And she wears a blingfold. The sad thing is that humans have a hard time with the blindfold. Pray for peace and wisdom for our leaders.
Lady Justice is no longer blind. SCOTUS has ripped it off, and burnt it, just so Donald Trump can have his way 😬😬
Let me tell you how I see the Supreme Court’s ruling on Presidential Immunity published July 1, 2024.
The ruling contains the seeds of disaster for the Government of the United States. Immunity for Official Acts of the President is considered absolute. Immunity for Official Acts was implicitly assumed in our government from the beginning. However, the wording of the finding does not limit the realm of Official Acts and includes actions which are presumptively Official.
The wording does not permit the consideration of motive or intent. The wording, in present conservative interpretation, would allow directing the Attorney General to ignore or postpone a suit brought against the actions of the President or his Executive Staff.
Recent history has shown us instances when a President of The United States attempted change the outcome of normal elections. Some of the actions were in direct contradiction of established democratic procedure.
I will not Vote for Mr. Trump
But I will! TRUMP 2024 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
Trump 2024.
Does it bother you that your acting-president is an anti-White racist:
th-cam.com/video/UgrliuQW_-Q/w-d-xo.html
Which recent instances? You told us at the top, you will tell us how you see things then said nothing of substance. The current American president is not physically, literally incapable of speaking and tying his shoe laces. Is that not an issue to any of you?
@@Recordings-ov4hvNah, Now Biden never has to leave office. SCOTUS just made him King. 🤣
Nobody is above the law.
Unless you are a dictator, a despot, or Donald Trump.
Dangerous times.
Nut.
Democracy first 🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷
Or Biden
Why are the supreme court, justices that decide on matters of law. Appointed by politicians? They should be independent
That's the problem right there
appointed but confirmed by Congress which is our representative form of government.
up until now, it has worked, but you had a leader to the senate who held up one nomination during a Democrat term, and using logic contrary to the first steal, snuck another one in at the last minute when RBG died. So Trump appointed 3. 3 Conservative ultra right wing judges that sent Roe back to the states to decide and removed on of our rights we have had for 60 years. I knew it was just the beginning. so now we have 6 ultra conservative justices to 3 moderate liberals.
Think about the world environment, freedoms anywhere, the world economy. When America falls ... It's going to be ugly. perhaps the literal end of the world as we know it. I am not exaggerating.
How would you prefer they be seated? By popular vote? That would still be political. Drawn out of a hat? A feat of strength? What's your solution here? Let's be honest, if the politics shifted on the Supreme Court, you'd be jubilant.
The fact that this is celebrated and not a cause for concern for all Americans is alarming and expected.
That’s what u get when u have a low information electorate ! Easy to bamboozle fools .
Meanwhile Joe in the Oval Office with a hand up his back. Does Mr Biden running the free world not worry you? It’s like having your geriatric senile grand father rule the world. Yous are all nuts.
@@karinwallace3031 what you get with a low information electorate is a Biden Harris presidency 😂
Imagine thinking Biden and Kamala are smart leaders lol😂
@@byronlazo They were smart enough to beat Cheeto Man!!!
I am convinced that Trump got the word that he could argue for total immunity from the SCOTUS themselves.
Well Biden knows what he must do in the light of this decision. Call Seal team 6 . 😂
You’re deranged
Right lol
He won't because that is just wrong. He will not sacrifice his immortal soul or ours for one jackass
If trump was president now he would though. That’s the problem with situations like this. Those with morals and decency will not act out of hand to defend democracy, but those without morals will act however they can to destroy it. That’s why you need the rule of law to keep the immoral in check
At least I finally got a laugh
I hope this guy being interviewed gets an office where he can do zooms, and doesn't have to sit at the top of the stairs!
best comment
Maybe channel 4 should hire their actor to go visit trump?
Does he do an American accent
@@youubik he does many accents 😂
Racist spotted
Presidential powers have a distinct measure of Congressional support. When Congress isnunder attack by the President's own doing, how can the Supreme Court lie and say, 'This was supported?'😮
If I've understood the SCOTUS decision today, then it will be legal arguments going forward in the lower courts that determine exactly what is and what is not an "official" act as a president. The main point is that this SCOTUS ruling has bought Trump more time (i.e. if he gets re-elected then he's effectively home free). I would at least find some measure of comfort if Biden's administration were on the ball sufficiently to take advantage themselves of this decision.
@@CaminoAir You have misunderstood the ruling. Anything the lower courts do can be overruled by SCOTUS, meaning the five MAGA judges, and they alone, will determine what is legal for a US president to do. Effectively they have given themselves unlimited authority over the executive branch of the government. All to help Trump escape jail, and stop him taking down the whole GOP with him if that ever happens.
Basically it's the sequel to Jan 6th we've all been waiting for, except this time the thugs are better dressed, and taking aim at a different branch of government. Nothing else has changed.
@@CaminoAir so what you're saying is that you want Biden to commit a bunch of crimes? Neato.
Trump literally ALWAYS wins in the end...lol I LOVE IT!! Still not tired of winning!! 😊
When a Democrat president send troops after MAGA as an immune official act would you feel the same?
@@jeffjohnson9108 Umm Trump supporters are heavily armed and perfectly happy to die for the cause. Think about it, if just 5% of Trump supporters decide to overthrow the government there will be nothing to stop them. How do you stop 3.7 million heavily armed American citizens? You think Law Enforcement will save you? They are all Trump supporters who have been demonized by the left for the last 10 years so they won't save you. Heck they will likely join the Trump supporters. The military is overwhelmingly Conservative bc most guys on the left are too feminine for the military. Why do you think Trump gets away with so much? Bc the Federal Government knows good and well that Trump supporters have the capability to violently overthrow them. Sorry to introduce you to reality.
@@jeffjohnson9108 In that case you might actually have an insurrection.
Why are people freaking out over the Supreme Court ruling. This will work in our favor. King Biden issue executive order to protect women's right and won't be questioned.
Korpse Biden
Sleepy dementia joe lol
You are fools for Trump!!
Because Biden is an honorable man. he won't take advantage of it. There are options under the constitution, but they no longer involve the courts. the first is to vote. vote so many of us that he cannot lie his way out of it.
It is nice to see lefties having a collective meltdown😂😂😂😂
This is a win For Joey ...now he can just stamp " Offical act" on trump boat..before he throw him in to swim with the fishes
That's what you think. The Dim&Craps have set so many precedents in their witch hunt against Trump that will be used against them in the future. It opens Obama and Brandon and the Climtons to actual justice.
It was a purely partisan decision and I pray to God it spurs everyone that believes in democracy votes blue in this upcoming election.
yes it it. But it is a power grab on a spectacular scale. He has the majority of the Supreme court behind him. The house by a very narrow margin. the Corrupt Televangelists. and about 1/4 - 1/3 f the voters. Plus a lot of corrupt politicians in every state
So can the sitting President do as he please.
As far as criminal and civil law is concerned, yes.
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If he's Republican
Well supreme court ruled against student debt forgiveness said it was unconstitutional and the president has no power to forgive debt as stated by the former house speaker but he still defied court orders
@@ttseseif your student loan was forgiven, would you say those words?
SHAME!!
Oh know. Joe should have never been elected
If there is no immunity then Obama can be charged for the murder of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki
That would only work if these partisan actors could feel shame.
@@timblainshow858 Troll.
@@brendansparks1511 absolutely
Actually, that word "some" is a very big word in the decision and when applied to future cases involving actions of Presidents while in office it has a very far reaching impact. For example declaring war without the consent of Congress, can he be fully prosecuted for his action or the President has "some" immunity because it was an "official" act. "Some" I assume means here as having some degree of correctness in his decision to declare war.
Why is England out of all countries concerned about this ruling? 😂
Your democracy is disappearing in real time and you find it funny that others care for you/ your nation?
Next time, I hope Trump's madness negatively affects you badly so we'll seee how funny it is then.
The beginning of the end of a Civilization, the USA
Em out 🤡
@@raishaferreira8099 the foreseen ripple affects of this treasonous Supreme Court, makes our Country’s rule of law unrecoverable, The United States Constitution is now bursting at the seams.
Hey, Ch4 - why not hire an actor to pretend he's a Trump campaigner and get him to say a load of racist things with a deep Southern accent?
I don't think channel 4 need to hire an actor for that. As in Reform Ltd, Trump supporters love a bit of racism and bigotry.
@@paulfenton7776 Well, clearly they weren't able to find any so they had to hire an actor to do it. You should do some of your own research instead of relying on other people to tell you what to think.
@@paulfenton7776 Wheras the communists lovers on the left disguise their bigotry and prejudices by calling it things like "identity politics" and "intersectionality".
Just wow, what is going on in the USA with their suprecourt judges.
Thank God we're a Constitutional Monarchy
Great news for Orange man. Cheer up Channel 4! 🎉
Weren’t they saying a couple of weeks ago that when a jury found Trump guilty of committing a 10 year old bookkeeping error with no evidence and no particular charge how great the justice system was.
look at some of their comments. literally shocking. those are the ppl pretending to be scared of Trump supporters lol
shh how dare you highlight leftist hypocrisy for everyone to see...
lol, where do you get your information? You don't have a college degree, do you?
First of all - it was not a "bookkeeping" error - it was an embezzlement or official campaign funds! That is really easy! I know, some people on Fox News try confuse people - but it's your own fault if you don't get it.
Second - this is a complete other dimension! A president with absolut immunity is a dictator! Wellcome to North Korea 🤣😂
So great that they changed the statute of limitations, for 1 year only, just to allow them to bring the case. Ridiculous.
Trump lies. Wake up!
Sorry but trying to stop the vote count on Jan6 is not an official act of the executive branch. The expert is incorrect. I don’t think this is what the court said
The left's efforts to get Trump made this ruling necessary.
Exactly.
It was rigged ⁉️
@@timblainshow858only n the minds of the losers
@@timblainshow858 Trump tried to rig 2020 and couldn’t but he’s trying everything he can to rig 2024. Trump will fail and democracy will prevail.
@@timblainshow858 Who won then? Troll logic, huh?
I have no real proof, but apparently Democrats suck
@@timblainshow858 Cuz orange daddy said so, Ivan?
Being an "expert" and being biased are two entirely different things. And this man is biased.
Without immunity how can a president do his job and make the hard choices if they can be prosecuted for it.
That’s not what they have said at all. Some immunity but it depends upon whether or not the law was broken during the course of normal presidential duties. Inciting an insurrection is not part of normal presidential duties. Taking confidential papers and hiding them from the FBI is not part of presidential duties.
Fortunately you need to prove intent. That won't be possible.
#1 there never was an insurrection.
#2 remember this ruling doesn't cover the VP as Biden was when he was taking classified documents
#3 SCOTUS already ruled the Jan 6 protesters were already overcharged.
The supreme court got this ruling correct as laid out in the constitution.
Duh. Presidential immunity act. Educate yourself.
Not exactly. This is about in the event that the law is broken by the President. So in this example he has already broken the law. If it is in the course of an official act he is immune. If it is not then he is not.
What they have said is that Trump is not immune for actions where he has repeatedly and willfully broken the law in cases where those were not official actions.
It's a 'win' for Trump only because he has a mountain of charges against him. This helps him with some of those so the net is a win given his current legal situation. A 20% shorter mountain is still a mountain.
Edited for clarity.
@@jameshisself9324 No its not about when. It's about in what capacity.
Channel 4 reporter wetting herself
Look at the face on her at the start 😂
"Insurrection"? Says who? Political protest not permitted unless it is the left?
Jackie Long is the presenters name. Good to know her name
@@christophervvallace yes please do, split the vote on the right and get nothing. Thank you for your service to this country.
You don't think creating an Emperor is a bad move?
Common sense prevails. If it went through Obama would be up before the courts. Its that simple.
So what's the point of even having elections. 😡
So I guess we can say that a President can no longer be impeached then, eh?
they can be impeached and removed by the Congress for high crimes and misdemeanors. They can not be prosecuted officially by the Feds or States for official acts while in office. This isn't rocket science.
Is De Niro in meltdown 😂
His rant in New York is insane😂
If you had any brains you would be
De Zero
A TRAITOR IS, AS A TRAITOR DOES....
IS THAT A STATUS OR A CRIME ?
SUPREME TRAITORS !
14th Amendment.
Quelle suprise. Constitutional experts have been saying this for months.
This woman is not very happy.
The executive branch should be immune. I'm more worried of people attacking the person as president vs the president attacking others.
SCOTUS is so R worded!
Executive privilege and the 5th amendment are not enough? This is another nail in the rule of law.
Disturbing level of sadistic glee in these comments. Shows what we’re dealing with - people who enjoy hurting others while they whine about being victims.
The commentors are losers and failures. They hate their
unsuccessful lives & take pleasure in destruction & chaos.
Dragging others down to their own level they hope to pass unnoticed. Despite being loud & brash, they are a minority.
We the people will not depend on the courts dealing with trump we the people holds trump in our hands remember that and his bullshit is coming to a end
Good luck with that. Get ready to feel the full wrath of the people.
Yeah, you're backing the wrong horse.
Can Biden now have trump "removed" with Seal Team 6?
It seems so. Trump is an enemy of the state.
Yes.
I expect that Dark Brandon is already on the case.
@@daveoc5770.And he might, post THAT debate. Saying Trump is a ,,Threat to democracy,,. Trump is an idiot. Never thought this thru. It could end up biting him somewhere really painful !😮
That was my thought also...
Ey channel 4. Did you know Facebook prevented me from sharing a link to this video. It said it was breaching their community standards.
The left are eating theirselves 😅
Joe has immunity. He needs to use it before donald does. Would you rather Joe test the limits or donald? I can guarantee that donald will!!!
Joe Biden needs to use this presidential immunity granted by the Supreme Court to his advantage ASAP. If he does not know what to do with the granted immunity I can give him some great pointers!
I hope he stays in. Go Joe!!
Joe biden doesn't know that he's joe biden. however his mental capabilities are on par with his supporters.
Yeah, I have a few ideas also.
Joe doesn't know what day it is.
Use it how.. do elaborate. Please go ahead and back a dictatorship all while calling a man not in power, a dictator. Go on..
Ch 4! Even the FBI found that there was no "insurrection!" I suppose your TDS won't allow for that though!
Channel 4 too busy hiring actors to infiltrate reformuk
What do you mean? We watched live on TV as Republicans attacked the capital, tried to prevent the counting of votes and to stop the transition of power.
tRumPutin troll using multiple usernames and giving himself thumbs up.
@@brendansparks1511 lol, I'm pepe and just gave him another 🐸
This man was nearly crying!
Scary times! I wish all my fellow Americans the best of luck! The constitution is definitely dangling by a thread.
Why hasn’t Biden swapped out the judges sat on the Supreme Court when he came into office?
Oh dear, Ch4 proven wrong yet again, what a surprise.
They are activists, not impartial reporters
No there not
@@martinrolf2606 fake news
As a candidate trump was acting unofficially, not as a potus.
Yet the POTUS is responsible for enforcing the laws surrounding the election and if the POTUS suspects the laws were violated it is not just withing their authority but literally their responsibility to investigate it.
technically he was still president until replaced
Jan 6 was a crisis simulation exercise.
@@andrewharrison7767 Technically it's all irrelevant because he had nothing to do with the illegal acts on Jan 6th.
Do you think people like Mr. Katyal who have devoted their lives to cases involving the court feel a little bit silly when cases like this shatter the illusion of a fair and impartial judicial system?
He should feel silly for the ridiculous fear mongering, but I suppose it’s hard to feel silly about it when it pays the bills.
*SOOO YOU'RE SAYING*
*I CAN GET AWAY WITH MURDER, IF I RUN FOR PRESIDENT* 😀👌
Only AFTER you've been sworn in as President, duh....
WE. MUST. VOTE! #DemocracyMatters #JusticeMatters #VoteBlue
A democracy matters and a vote blue hashtag makes you completely moronic. The democratic party, when Trump first ran as a republican, tried to impeach, imprison, incriminate and even take Trump off voting ballots in those blue states. For you to use a democracy matters while team slow Biden was trying to get rid of his political opposition, is nothing short of retarded.
Blue is anti democracy. The US democratic party hates the people they govern.
Please explain democracy.
Vote trump and not for a guy who can't put one sentence together 😂
Excellent decision by the Supreme Court though there is still a lot more work to do !
No, it's not. It's a partisan lawless decision from a bought and paid for Supreme Court. When it eventually affects you life, you will think quite differently.
Bias evident in the headline, its not "Trump immunity", it's presidential immunity.
Why should a president be allowed to conduct illegal acts?
Oh dear. How many actors have you used. For set ups today? Did you use J6 as a template for your set ups?
Did you hear the random Question Time audience member asking the first question about racism to Farage is a BBC producer who's shut down much of his recent Facebook?
Good will always prevail.
I don't know about that. Tell that to the Cubans in Cuba. 64 years already.
Well, we have diplomatic immunity, and we have judicial immunity, then why not have presidential immunity????? Bravo Trump 2024!!!!!
Well done comrade...
How was this not 9-0? Immunity for official acts only. Otherwise subject to whatever law applies. What else could it be for any elected official at any level.
Did channel 4 pay for any actors here? Asking for a friend.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Katyal
Are you sure your "expert" is not another actor as you have a long history of shenanigans like that.
You don’t know who Neil is?
According to Farage, unless you can come up with any other examples? I won't hold my breath...
@@honved1 If he is on Channel 4, I would not know him as I do not watch tell-lie-vision but I hear they are prolific fiction producers.
@@michealgee2394 He is on multiple forms of media, he’s the former deputy solicitor general of the US.
@@honved1 So he is a professional liar, ok, got it.
They did not say any of the charges are immune!!!
Do you really not get it!
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You are lying. They explicitly addressed 2 of the 4 charges against Trump. You didn't read the ruling.
@@salj.5459 I did. There are none which are precluded by this ruling. He’s charged for the riot and the fake electors. The corroborating evidence from conversations with his DA is off the table, but that’s not a charge
We don’t care, I’m still voting blue!
Saying "trump could just order navy seals to take out a rival" is reaching abit tbh
I'm old enought to remember when Channel 4 news was the news channel to go to. In fairness it was a long time ago.
Why are you here then. Could you please make a substantive comment that on the subject of the piece, or at least specific points about their coverage of it, rather than vague disparagement.
@artgreen6915 well a good start would have been to have another legal expert on that is not a former Obama admin on to push back on the ridiculous fear mongering. No serious legal scholar thinks assassinating a political rival would be considered an official act. It’s absurd.
It wasn’t an insurrection! MSM still don’t get it😂😂😂😂
MSM getting paid to paint narrative
Unbelievable, the supreme court’s is a kangaroo court.
A lot of hard left wing coping on here. Whatever happened to "Definitely got him this time"? 🤭
Bye bye American democracy.
Shaddap fool.
What is the oath of office for? ...TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION. I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion
I think you have no idea what you're talking about unless you're referring to the deep state trying taking over?
If Trump wins in November, not only bye bye American democracy. Bye bye Ukraine. Bye bye NATO. Bye bye world peace.
Bye bye Joe Biden.
Fascist coup. And excuse me Mr lawyer man, George III was not above the law, which is why Charles I lost his head.
Charles II did not lose his head, Charles I did.
Where is the fascism?
@@andrewcole7895 you are right, i lost mine for a moment.
The Fascist coup was in 2020 when the FBI, DoJ, and Democrat party conspired to "fortify" an election through the manipulation of the MSM and social media, just as they had earlier fabricated a "dossier" to illegally enact an impeachment.
Fascists are socialists, you know? Just like the Democrats...
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Shorter version: The Court has saved Trump, kneecapped Smith, and set up the conditions for an elective monarchy.
THE BEST COURT MONEY CAN BUY !!!!
There's no bias here, don't worry.
Great day for America...
Democracy working as designed 👍
By allowing the installation of a dictator? How does that work, in your mind?
@@xchopp Nothing you said has happened.
@@xchopp stop making stuff up lad
Whats the difference between the Supreme Courts decision and our Conservative Government retrospectively changing the Law to legalise illegal acts?! Or making Rwanda a Safe Country because they so?
But of course you know that Rwanda was never anything other than a red herring.
Actually Labour were more than involved in "retrospectively changing the Law to legalise illegal acts".
"The Investigatory powers act" breaks Article 8 of the ECHR. "The Online Safety bill" breaks Article 10.
The EU's own "Digital services act" also breaks Articles 8 and 10 ( as are France and I think Germany )
Governments, it seems, 'retrospectively change the Law' when it suits their agenda.
Parliament is sovereign and makes the laws, the courts are supposed to follow it. If we can have laws that say men can become women and vice versa, I guess anything is possible.
Wow! Please provide the date this was lawfully declared an official insurrection.
Allegation That's the thing. And the one conviction that is already Being reviewed and The findings of the lower court have been frozen. This is usually an indication that there's going to be a overturn of the lower court's findings. Not a return to the court but I can fleet overturn. If the district court would have ordered a review, that's one thing, but to put a stay on the order.That's definitely an indication that things are not gonna go so well for this court. Especially since it's already indications of this barment and other repercussions due to the illegal activities that went on in the courtroom. And inside the judges chambers, this church is probably looking. Some time in federal penitentiary and I don't think he'll go where martha went.