Victron MPPT 100/50 smart solar charge controllers side by side. Yes, its worth it.

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  • @stevebrotzman723
    @stevebrotzman723 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Subscribed and thumbs up! I am new to solar and gonna do my system in my van. Been watching videos and reading for 6 months. In the beginning my eyes were bleeding but now I am understanding more and you just prevented me from making a decision with 2 controllers. I had planned on the victron MPPT 100-50 next a Renogy that has a built in DC-DC power connection. Now I will go with 2 Victron controllers and their DC-DC module. I wanted to save money and buy other stuff but it is clear I could save money on things like panels and make up for it with Victron parts.....but I will get as many panels as I can anyway! Thanks for the vid!

  • @UnkyjoesPlayhouse
    @UnkyjoesPlayhouse ปีที่แล้ว +4

    started with a donated Growatt 3000/24v system, w 2 12.8v lifepo4's in series, now getting ready to buy Victron for my DIY 24v battery bank with bms. I am sold on Victron's stuff from Off Griud Garage. Love your laid back style of presenting, sub'd and enjoying your content :)

    • @ProjectsinParadise808
      @ProjectsinParadise808  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mahalo! And welcome to the conversation here! Hope to see you around again! Aloha!🤙

  • @OperationCamp
    @OperationCamp ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I went to a victron unit myself two years ago vs a cheaper unit I had bought off of amazon. Build quality is top notch so i bought an even bigger the 150/85amp one for my garage also using a 600 Ah battery bank and the thing even charges on cloudy days with no problems. Enjoyed the video 👍

    • @ProjectsinParadise808
      @ProjectsinParadise808  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mahalo for that! Yeah, I love Victron too. Makes a huge difference day in and day out. Aloha! 🤙

  • @daveyboy8907
    @daveyboy8907 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Glad I found your channel..running 1200 watts 2 victron 100/50s 6 batteries and a giandel inverter and a cheap bestek inverter..Solar is awesome

  • @pnowikow
    @pnowikow 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You've made me a believer in Victron. I'm ordering a 75/15 this week

  • @johnguilbert1349
    @johnguilbert1349 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have the same Victron units and other componentry. You can't go wrong with Victron, you really do get what you pay for. Excellent equipment performance, functionality and interoperability.

  • @jayh9504
    @jayh9504 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for all of your informative reviews! You helped me convince myself to change all of my existing solar controllers to Victron 100-50 devices. Wow what a difference!

    • @ProjectsinParadise808
      @ProjectsinParadise808  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah they do make a difference huh? Mahalo for tuning in ! Aloha! 🤙

  • @TheWickerShireProject
    @TheWickerShireProject หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We switched from a Pow Mr 160/60 to a victron 150/60 ( both MPPT ) the Victron produces over 35% more power.
    The Pow Mr would cap at 39-40 amps and heat throttle out plus the sweeping was erratic. The Victron would peak at 59 to 60.2 amps then throttle out and hold at max amps. This is what you get from $90 cheap solar charger to a true Mppt $350 solar charger. Most we've seen from the Pow Mr was 11.5 Kwhrs. The Victron 18.5 Kwhrs. The Victron will pay for itself and become free in 3 to 4 months. ( I love not paying an electric bill! )

  • @anthonyrstrawbridge
    @anthonyrstrawbridge ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aloha
    Rest bun peace EPever, you have taught us and served us. Mahalo

  • @1kzrider
    @1kzrider 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I also found Victron to worth it's weight in gold. I am currently very impressed in a setup I have 2 victrons. But, this one setup is a 50 watt panel fixed to roof near perfect south. And I am getting non stop power with victron 100/20 SmartSolar with it. I am seeing 1.3-1.5 amps even before 10am and through day I see as high as average 2.5 amps with spike of 2.9 even. Considering a 50 watt Mono panel Peak Current (Imp):2.92 Amp to get such results due to the Victron is amazing. I am charging a 30Ah LifePo4 running USB fans, USB LED Edison bulb, 18650 charger, tablet and cell phone charging off this. And I am in float mode most the day. My other 100/50 Bluetooth Dongle "thought I got a great deal on Ebay" was not the Bluetooth Smart Solar) connected with 4x165 mono panels same roof. Connected to 8x20Ah LifePo4 run in series parallel for 24V I average 20-23 amps to batts. FYI Yea I think ebay has lot of open box Victron MPPT non Bluetooth for sale cause people get them and find out no bluetooth and return. Vs just getting the dongle like I had to. Which works out better you get further bluetooth connection.

  • @closetcleaner
    @closetcleaner ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Regarding the difference in readings between the different mppts brands,,,
    It's good practice to use an independent method to validate different readings.
    Other simple methods of testing is swapping units. Just sharing.

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe7500 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was a great side by side. Thank you.

  • @williamfairley2502
    @williamfairley2502 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice set up , I run 6 x 190w panels = 1140w into one Victron 100/50 charge controller , I use series parallel, but I use 24v system

    • @ProjectsinParadise808
      @ProjectsinParadise808  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice! I think I will do series parallel in time too. Add some more panels then do that. Aloha!🤙

  • @vinniec5286
    @vinniec5286 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good information to know. I have 2 PWM charge controllers and recently switched to a Victron 100/30 with blue tooth. I have noticed a considerable difference and to verify the readings, I clamped my amp meter around the cable going into the charge controller and then on the one going from the charge controller to the battery and they were essentially the same.

    • @ProjectsinParadise808
      @ProjectsinParadise808  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I love the Victrons. Makes everthing sooo much easier! 🤙

    • @Thode-R
      @Thode-R 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pvm starts charging at the battery voltage. Mppt goes full tilt from the gett go

  • @rodolphealmaguer8711
    @rodolphealmaguer8711 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I am having the same issues with Epever charge controllers, just purchased that same Victron controller.

    • @ProjectsinParadise808
      @ProjectsinParadise808  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You will see the difference! I'm all Victron myself now! Aloha!🤙

  • @UlfWolf_Skater
    @UlfWolf_Skater 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Victron is worth the money! I run the 100/50 on two 440 Jimko panels with a max output of 1050W. Controlling is perfect, especially the the different modes like Bulk, absorption and float. Extending to a second string, but will I will go for the 150/45 due to some voltage peaks above 100v.

  • @UKsystems
    @UKsystems 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You can do this, but it’s advisable to get two units that can be connected together so they both are in the same stage of charging at once as sometimes there can be a couple of minutes delay between them but it’s not that big of a deal

  • @mariodasilva8729
    @mariodasilva8729 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Should we believe Victron is not upping the Amps display in their controllers? Is there a way to externally revalue the current passing thru between the Epever and the Victron?

  • @neomatrix2722
    @neomatrix2722 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ty for sharing. I too went victron.

  • @davej7434
    @davej7434 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the parts list, and the explanation of the differences. I have seen a few places where people have swapped out Victron controllers for bigger Victron ones, would you be cautious of getting used Victron parts if they still work instead of brand new?

  • @TheTundercat222
    @TheTundercat222 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Victron for the Win

  • @Zbee167
    @Zbee167 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good to know! Thanks for sharing.

  • @kimokoanui3732
    @kimokoanui3732 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aloha I'm in hilo now and it'sa gorgeous day! My lifepo4 batteries are loving it!

  • @daveyboy8907
    @daveyboy8907 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking forward to a victron sync video..I need to sync mine.

  • @Justthe2ofUs843
    @Justthe2ofUs843 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you networked the victrons? They will synchronize to get the most out of them.
    Here are the recommended settings for the Chins if you don't have them.
    Thank you very much for your purchase.
    The setting method of MPPT and inverter of 12.8V lithium iron
    phosphate battery pack is as follows:
    Charging
    Charging Limit Voltage: 14.2V
    Over Voltage Disconnect Voltage: 14.6V
    Over Voltage Reconnect Voltage: 13.8V
    Float Charging Voltage: 13.8V
    Discharging
    Low Voltage Disconnect Voltage: 11.6V
    Low Voltage Reconnect Voltage: 12.4V
    Under Voltage Warning Voltage: 12.8V
    The setting method of MPPT and inverter of 25.6V lithium iron
    phosphate battery pack is as follows:
    Charging
    Charging Limit Voltage: 28.4V
    Over Voltage Disconnect Voltage: 29.2V
    Over Voltage Reconnect Voltage: 27.6V
    Float Charging Voltage: 27.6V
    Discharging
    Low Voltage Disconnect Voltage: 23.2V
    Low Voltage Reconnect Voltage: 24.8V
    Under Voltage Warning Voltage: 25.6V
    The above are two common installation methods, if you use other
    methods (series or parallel) to install our batteries, please contact u
    and we will send you the MPPT and inverter setting parameters. We
    can also arrange engineers to send you design drawings of series a
    parallel connections
    Note: 1, Please avoid short circuit of the battery or battery pack whe
    you connect the battery, otherwise, it will damage the BMS of the
    battery and make it fail to work normally.
    2, Please select the specification of the cable connected to the batte
    according to the current value of charging and discharging, so as to
    avoid accidents caused by the current exceeding the withstand range

    • @ProjectsinParadise808
      @ProjectsinParadise808  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I have them networked and doing great. Mahalo for that information! 🤙

  • @nowayoutstp4
    @nowayoutstp4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video sir!

  • @hansjrgenkristensen4034
    @hansjrgenkristensen4034 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EPEver MPPT is surely 40A? Then it may be that the power brake is due to power almost at the maximum limit of the output fuse. Safety in the regulator is activated. But still a lot of difference. Real comparison must be with equal regulators. Websites I've seen there are no 50A EPEver, the 40A and 60A are the closest.
    Probably EPEver and others have thought that it should be possible with too much panels, so it charges well when there is cloudy and bad panel weather. When the sun appears, the limitations on the output are activated - the power level becomes restricted. Victron has a different starting point, there is a limit of max and you have to comply with it. Then there is no need to limit on the output, if a little too much panels.

    • @ProjectsinParadise808
      @ProjectsinParadise808  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes , was a 40amp controller from Epever. I understand what you say, but why it has always slowed down remains a mystery. Aloha!🤙

  • @robertmeyer4744
    @robertmeyer4744 ปีที่แล้ว

    A big difference. shows the faster MPPT time in Victron . also looks like Victron has better conversion efficiency watts in to watts out. all giving more to battery .now day after day that improvement will really add up. over time with same usage you will notice a higher state of charge. waiting until spring to install Victron to my briefcase folding portable panel. that I take camping with us. Will also allow me to charge 24V battery as well. It is 2 60 watt panels into PWM 12V now. will be series into Victron then I set for either battery. even AGM . It came with cheap controller on nice panels . I bought it knowing that. May be Powerqueen will go camping with us soon. Saved in my cart. Got car to fix. new tiers ETC. I do a little at a time. Them EP ever ones do work and can be a nice back up .I love the Bluetooth feature. that app shows them both at same time. I got the USB connect cable for mine so I can program from my PC . allowing me to set different battery types. like NiFe or NiCd or NiMh . or even LTO or Na-ION . once you set a nom 12 or 24V system I can adjust for the difference in balk and float settings. Victron has even more features for advanced users as well. I can dump my own fermwear into it. and they are with me to help me with the settings I need.

    • @ProjectsinParadise808
      @ProjectsinParadise808  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aloha Roberto! Well today first day with the two Victrons, easily went to 100% . It made the difference. Without even synching them up together they always stayed within 1 watt of each other on input. It was a thing of beauty I tell ya! I do plan to sync them up, and am reading up on how to do that. The new one went to absorption just a few minutes before the original one. But both went full tilt all the way to full, no hesitation! I was super happy wiith the results. In fact every system today went to float. Finally got everything paneled up pretty good. And the days are getting longer, so all good out here. And sounds like all good there too!🤙

  • @estring69
    @estring69 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well that settles it. Thanks. Nice to get all the little details from one video or another.

  • @silverleapers
    @silverleapers ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe I'm reading the Icons and displays incorrectly, but why is the epever only showing ~300w of solar being produced while the victron is showing ~400w, if the two panel strings are actually outputting roughly the same power?

    • @ProjectsinParadise808
      @ProjectsinParadise808  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly why I went with second Victron...no reason I could figure out. Aloha!🤙

    • @silverleapers
      @silverleapers ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ProjectsinParadise808 Another youtube channel showed victron vs epever and found almost the exact same thing. Epever was reading about 25% lower PV power-in compared to the victron.

  • @anniewisecarver744
    @anniewisecarver744 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have 5 - 200W solar panels (1000W) and 4 - 200ah lithium iron phosphate batteries. What size charge controller do I need (amps?) I was going to get a 60amp but now I think I need more. Does Victron have controllers with higher amps? I'm not sure how to read the numbers on them. Thanks!

  • @silverleapers
    @silverleapers ปีที่แล้ว

    1.8Kw vs 1.1Kw WOW!!! Victron for the win.

  • @OskarHartmannsson
    @OskarHartmannsson 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im confused are the charging the same battery and if they are it is normal that they will read the volts from the other one making it ramp down they settings and the calibration is not the same, running them separated wold be more correct as a test.

  • @rodhobart9926
    @rodhobart9926 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, it appears the voltage on the Epever system has a higher voltage, so may be nearer to full charge. I am enjoying your channel ..... from Australia

  • @cmquinn2000
    @cmquinn2000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Difference could be either a little dirt on the lower panels, or some sort of resistance difference between the two. Maybe a connector not seated as well or just not as crimping/soldering of the connectors. There is also the error of the two devices measuring circuits. They are close enough to be considered the same.

  • @larryphillips4164
    @larryphillips4164 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Problem is the parameters for the battery through the solar controller. You can reset those parameters under a custom setting and adjust each voltage number. That would probably fix your issue. You shouldn’t have to, for as much money as we spend on all this shit, it all should be plug and play…

  • @boscodog4358
    @boscodog4358 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have a very good channel.
    Testing is a very labor intensive ordeal.
    Can you recommend a forum channel ?
    I have a few questions that if I can chat with someone will bring me up to full speed with my EPEVER.
    So sad that EPEVER does not have have technical support in the USA.

    • @ProjectsinParadise808
      @ProjectsinParadise808  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mahalo! I have fun with it, but you're right , catching everything on camera eats up some time. I can try try to answer an EPever ? for you, but otherwise the diy solar forum may be good for specifics. Lots of real tech guys in there. I struggled in the beginning using the Epever myself...heck I made a bunch of videos on parameters, and spent so much time on it it was crazy. Now Im sold on Victron...plug and play. 🤙

  • @ChristophPuetz
    @ChristophPuetz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you use a distributor like the Lynx or are both controllers feeding directly into the battery bank?

    • @ProjectsinParadise808
      @ProjectsinParadise808  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      From controllers to bus bar to batteries. No Lynx at this time. Aloha!🤙

  • @carlh2007
    @carlh2007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How many amps is your epever? I just bought a 30amp model to upgrade my 75/15 Victron with 2x 250w house panels lol. Hopefully it'll still be an upgrade

  • @mayricelduhaylungsod7722
    @mayricelduhaylungsod7722 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice setup.. you can sycn the two controller.

  • @Earthmadegarden
    @Earthmadegarden ปีที่แล้ว

    Victron ftw!! Have you checked out the smart shunt from them?

    • @ProjectsinParadise808
      @ProjectsinParadise808  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not yet but I certainly will!🤙

    • @Earthmadegarden
      @Earthmadegarden ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ProjectsinParadise808 I definitely recommend. It’s the BMV-712 great product for monitoring the SOC

  • @davidpatrick1813
    @davidpatrick1813 ปีที่แล้ว

    Comment: do you put a ground on the controller screw on the left side?

  • @ckhaustralia
    @ckhaustralia 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can I have or buy your old EP Ever mate down here in Australia please, I'm on a disability pension so need stuff to keep my caravan/home running.....

  • @penncapt
    @penncapt ปีที่แล้ว

    Will this Victron charge 14s LIPO to 58.2 volts?

  • @michaeljoncour4903
    @michaeljoncour4903 ปีที่แล้ว

    what happened to the samsung monitor giving the output, what is its name?

  • @anthonyrstrawbridge
    @anthonyrstrawbridge ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got a lingering question about shutting down the PV array. I'm not sure I understand the ifs and whys and so forth. But it is my ritual to cover the array with a white sheet ( I use two down filled bed covers). The more I view these shutdown switches the more I realize that no one is covering the array first.
    This has precluded my decision to install a disconnect. I can't recall why or where but vaguely I recall reading somewhere that the PV module must be protected from sunlight in the event it is not connected. I've maintained strict adherence because I accepted the doctrine assuming that the PV panel array would surge to an elevated temperature when disconnected. I wonder how hot ?

    • @ProjectsinParadise808
      @ProjectsinParadise808  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats a good question. I kill all power with switches, then I went out and unplugged the array, but didnt cover the panels. Then when I was done reconfiguring everything , powered up cc from battery first, went outside plugged in array, then back inside and flipped isolater on. Thats how I always have done it. With no problems. 🤙

    • @anthonyrstrawbridge
      @anthonyrstrawbridge ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ProjectsinParadise808 Yes, I'm learning maximum open circuit voltage isn't harming much. I just dread the thought of returning to damaged modules after a prolonged absence.
      My suspicion is that during a shutdown the string will get hot enough to burn solder small solder connections inside and possibly damage electrical components and melt connectors.
      If this is the case then it would prudent to have a quick solution for any person minimally capable of assisting in my absence.
      I'm visualizing a simple plan like the products used to paint green houses commonly referred to as solar reflective green house paint. It blocks a large percentage of the solar gain, is rain fast, easily washes away, non toxic, and can be sprayed on with a hose or garden sprayer.

    • @jime9305
      @jime9305 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anthonyrstrawbridge As much research and study that I've done over many years, I've never heard anyone express concern over leaving panels exposed and unused. When solar panels are disconnected from a system it is to protect the charge controller, not the panels. I have never covered my array when disconnected and I've never experienced any problems from doing so multiple times. I believe your concerns are unfounded, but I will inquire further 🌞👍

    • @anthonyrstrawbridge
      @anthonyrstrawbridge ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jime9305 Yes, it isn't a problem in itself nor is warranted much concern today. Likely, I learned these things long ago during the design phase of actually building modules from cells when the circuits were not as refined and selection of components were limited in comparison to today. Back then an exposed modules had the potential to act as both: Load and Supply resulting in a toaster oven like effect which could damage a cell, then string, and eventually the solder connection. Yes, it can happen today too but not so much with quality.

    • @frans_d7989
      @frans_d7989 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use a SMA sunny boy inverter and a sunny island for my off grid solar system. When the batteries are completely charged the grid inverter shorts out the panels. I wonder why they do that instead of disconnecting the panels?

  • @bigrob1887
    @bigrob1887 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you build a system with multiple charge controllers, they all have to have synchronizing capabilities or they will work against each other, especially if they are different brands.

  • @igorkvachun3572
    @igorkvachun3572 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes video👍 ☀⚡🔌💡🔋

  • @davidoldkitten2660
    @davidoldkitten2660 ปีที่แล้ว

    yea i went to victron charge controller to. love them i don't like epever any more. they are slow.. what size wire is on your new victron charge controller Battery side and on the solar side...

    • @ProjectsinParadise808
      @ProjectsinParadise808  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Went with 8 ga. Got a full charge so easy today! Worked so good it was great. Aloha!🤙

  • @teddycunningham7568
    @teddycunningham7568 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just running the numbers at my rates it looks like victron pays back 40 dollars per year over epever.

  • @rickharold7884
    @rickharold7884 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yea that’s beautiful!! I love victron. If I wasn’t married I marry a victron charge controller. Ha ha.
    Thx for apples to apples comparison.
    Victron for president 2024

    • @ProjectsinParadise808
      @ProjectsinParadise808  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was so much fun to watch it today! Only 1 watt variation between the two at any given time, otherwise perfectly in sync. Both went full tilt until I was 100% at shortly after noon. Perfect! Aloha!🤙

  • @ernestkooistra1559
    @ernestkooistra1559 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @justinmitchuson8992
    @justinmitchuson8992 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aren't you over the 100 voc with 5 panels in series. I didn't know if it was ever an issue.

  • @houseofancients
    @houseofancients ปีที่แล้ว

    why don't you parallel both string on 1 victron.
    they should be more than capable to handle your strings on one controller

    • @jsunhack
      @jsunhack ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One charge controller can not take 1000 watts, they can only take I think 600 unless you have a 24 volt bank. Correct me if I’m wrong.

    • @houseofancients
      @houseofancients ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jsunhack as long as you dont exceed the voltage, it wont be a problem.
      it will pull a maximum of 50a max, so on real sunny days you may miss 2-4 amps, then again , on less than sunny days it should be much more efficient and give you more power at less parasidic usage.
      do a google search on "over paneling"

  • @MrButuz
    @MrButuz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I guess all the people who say buy EVever it's just as good as victron but one third of the price - are actually totally wrong then as you've done a thorough test unlike most of them :p

  • @peterstoops5683
    @peterstoops5683 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wanting to see how you hook up two controllers to one battery.. but your monotone voice is unbearable calling it quits at 7:45

    • @ProjectsinParadise808
      @ProjectsinParadise808  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's double my usual view time mahalo!🤙

    • @peterstoops5683
      @peterstoops5683 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what island are you on? and how much property do you have?@@ProjectsinParadise808

  • @olvano
    @olvano ปีที่แล้ว

    give me the epever please😃

  • @twistedthrottle8513
    @twistedthrottle8513 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    not sure how its creating so many amps ,looking at mine at 300w input 65v 5.2amp amp ,,mines only outputs 11 amps , your is smashing 28amps at 400w . 5.9amps in 28amps out humm

  • @fuppeduck6120
    @fuppeduck6120 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thetes quite a difference between the charg controllers wow

  • @mayricelduhaylungsod7722
    @mayricelduhaylungsod7722 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice setup.. you can sycn the two controller.