The pin is almost a foot further back that many other hitches. The further back the pin is fron the rear axle, the more it lifts the front axle. This defeats the purpose of the newer F250 attaching their hitches closer to the rear axle
Why the loud music in the beginning? Unnecessary and kinda alarming outta nowhere! DOPE HITCH THOUGH! I rock the 2” 16-K 9” drop with a hitch mounted full size spare tire rack slipped in the top notch then my 4x4 ARMY DYI CAMP/BUG OUT TRAILER mounted about halfway down the 9” drop... MY CAR TRAILER USES THE LOWEST NOTCH/HITCH SPOT ON THE 9” DROP... AND THIS TRUCK IS ONLY A 6” LIFT! 35x12.50R20 SO THE DROP IS MANDATORY! NICE VIDEO THOUGH BUDDY! Thanks for always coming through!
Mr. Truck I love my Gen-y 6" drop hitch (no torsion-not that heavy of trailer). I just wanted to let you know that the new 17 Super Duties have a taller or longer (in lowered position) tailgate than in previous years. If you want to drop the tailgate with the trailer attached you need more length in the shank or entire hitch setup. Gen-y gives you the extra length to be able to do this. If not you can drop the tailgate or camera on the jack for disconnecting the trailer. Just another selling point. Love the videos.
I do like the concept that they have there if give this hitch 10 stars I'm going to save and get one this would work for my job bc I hul boats around and it would save my truck alot
my only comment is that it's pushing the hitch further away from the tow vehicle which may cause further stresses on the tow bar. The unit itself looks well made and an interesting concept. Are they going to be sold in Australia?
Campbell Peters it's not moving the tow vehicle farther away the weight of the trailer is in the same spot. All it's doing is allowing the truck and trailer to have another pivot point instead of being solid on the truck which is truly harder on the receiver hitch. I tow boat and for my job and I'm really thinking about getting one very awesome concept and does take away alot of the stress on your vehicle and trailer
We are a family of 4 living full time in a RV. We have a 36' bumper pull RV with a max weight of 11,200 LBS. I have been looking most between the Anderson WD and the Equalizer WD. I went to Geny Hitches website and they state this hitch virtually eliminates all sway. When you are pulling a house as large as mine from the bumper, sway control is important. Winds have a major affect on how your trailer tracks behind your truck. I see that you have experiences with the reg Geny, the Torsion Flex Geny and on TFL you have used the Anderson WD. In your opinion which is best for a large trailer? The reg Geny W/ WD, Torsion Flex Geny, Anderson WD or Equalizer WD.
This is NOT an anti-sway hitch. You would still need a WDH with anti-sway when using this hitch. It's sole purpose is to reduce the impact of rough roads.
Hi Mr.Truck, question for you. I have a 2004 lincoln Navigator and it came with air supension, but I recently swapped the air suspension with conventional coilover setup.. the coilovers I bought are a 2 inch drop from factory height. My question is, if its safe to tow with lowered springs? I did not cut them, they were engineered and manufactured to be less coil and they come mated with a ultra high pressured damping strut. do you think it is safe to hook up a trailer or would I bottom out on dips and potholes?
+Geovanni Delgado That would be a question for the aftermarket coil over you're using. You'll know after you tow with it, if it bottoms out. And it's important to keep the Lincoln level with a trailer so it will depend on how much the trailer weighs.
+MrTruckTV your right, and by trailer I dont mean nothing crazy in size. it would just be occasionally a U-Haul trailer plus its cargo weight and passenger weight. But thank you for your response!
Hello Mr Truck, thanks for the video. I recently purchased a 2022 GMC Diesel 2500, and I have a 28 foot Airstream TT . I did not attach a WD hitch and towed out West 10K miles with no sway problems and when driving on flat surfaces , it was so smooth with no problems at all.. The only issue I have is when I would go over a frost heave or a bump in the road, the front of my truck bounces what seems excessively. When I slow down this eliminates a lot of this, but since I never owned a truck before I was wondering if this hitch will help with that?
Will it work if instead of using that 2 inch hitch ball I use the weight safe scale hitch together with this to tow a 6k trailer with tongue weight of 400 lbs ?
enjoyed the video, I have been looking for something like this for a while and will give it a try on the down side it is kind of expensive and was wondering if you would recommend this hitch for towing a 22ft bumper pull trailer with a 8000lb skidsteer, we recently got a new tow vehicle (2015 chevy express 3500) and are trying to reduce wear and tear on it, we previously towed with a 2001 suburban 2500 and it wore out our tires unevenly and fast. in your opinion would this hitch help our needs or should i be looking at something different? thanks for your time and really enjoy the videos. ps would love to see an update on load trail atv trailer with lowering front gate to load atvs from trailer to pick up. thanks again and keep up the good work sir.
Yes, on some horse trailers it's hard to attach WDH. Later you will see the long term horse trailer we cut the holes in the trailer and use wdh. On a borrowed new horse trailer, we can't be cutting holes in it. Alot of 1/2 ton's now go to 7-8000 lbs of trailer before the OEM says you have to use wdh. But if you are towing a box trailer, like RV or cargo trailer, a good wdh with sway control helps much in windy conditions.
You still need a weight distributing hitch, you can add one to the Gen-Y. A good wdh has sway control. Some HD trucks not need it, but 1/2 tons need the sway control and leveling that a good wdh can give
how would you compare this to the air safe hitch or the shocker hitch. I'm looking for the best performing of the 3. I pull a 10k car trailer. of the 3, which one did the best job in your opinion. if you had to pick between the 3, which one would you go with. I am for sure going to get the shocker hitch for my Gooseneck trailer but stuck on which one to buy for my bumper pull trailers. thanks in advance.
+mhrepoman I haven't used air safe hitch. I like Shocker and use them, as far as a bumper pull cushion system, I'd pick the Geny torsion flex. Geny is the simplest and least maintenance. I like simple.
I looks like trailer is going up and down more on the hitch ball itself than on that receiver , prob. All it helps with is dumping vibration if that receiver even has some kids of rubber bushings in that hitch , otherwise not a big improvement
+MrTruckTV But truck and trailer already moving somewhat independently , trailer is not welded to the truck hitch, trailer moves up and down on the ball that's why we have it for the trailer to move up and down left to right ? I could be wrong now !
+MrTruckTV Look at ur video where trailer is connected to the ball on receiver , trailer moves up and down on the ball more than that receiver arms moves , obviously it helps but the way u say it is like the trailer is solid welded to the truck hitch , which is misleading , tortion suspension trailers move independently, trailer hitch slides on ball receiver , this hitch receiver is just a backup where maybe if u go off-roading and ur road is really looks like after ww2
+Viktor P The ball and coupler like your shoulder socket is fairly tight, that's how they are designed. Just like a gooeneck coupler compared to a mini 5th wheel, big difference in the connection. The min-5th wheel is a loose connection moves dramatically compared to a ball socket. On a normal trailer hitch, you feel all the vibration the trailer feels and the horse in the trailer feels what the truck is doing. It does make a difference. With horses you see a difference in how they perform after a long haul.
+Viktor P Generally torsion axles only have about 2.5 inches of travel. Which means if the trailer axle moves 2.5 inches, beyond that the suspension is left to the flexing of the tire. Keeping the torsion axle inside if it's wheel travel improves it's ride. Geny hitch with a loaded trailer, the hitch drops to the center of the torsion travel so it can move up and down.
I have a 2018 Raptor SuperCab. Tow rating is 5k or 6k with WDH. I was looking at the anderson wdh until I came across this. My trailer is 2000lbs and car is 3000lbs. Looking for the safest way to tow. Can I use this or is a wdh necessary? The wdh seem like a pain to set up, if I could use this instead, I’d rather do that. What would you recommend?
Yes, the Andersen WDH will work. I don't like it for 10k trailers and heavier, but for light trailers it controls sway and does some weight distributing. It would be great for 6000 lb trailer on the Raptor
MrTruckTV Since I will be towing 5k lbs, is a whd necessary on the supercab? Also, would you recommend getting the Sumo Springs or RAS to help with sag? Does the Gen-Y torsion control hitch help with sway or sag?
I say yes you need WDH. I wouldn't put an overload spring or Sumo on a Raptor. We use the Gen-Y torsion with it's WDH. It works great for heavy trailers. I think at your trailer weight, the Andersen WDH will do the job. Gen-Y quit selling WDH. Now they have a shank to use with any WDH.
Thank you, I was leaning towards the geny due to no airbag & not changing ground clearance but didn't know if there was something I was missing on the shocker, or another one I should consider
Hey thanks for the vids, how does this handle away control? I pull a 37' travel trailer and I am using Andersen wd and was wondering if this would be a safe and stronger replacement.
It's plenty strong, you can't hurt it but isolating the movement of the truck and the movement of the trailer, is key to better ride for the truck and trailer.
Would that hitch work on a two trailer setup? I'm curious to know if it would stop the second trailer bump bumping up and down as it did in the Chevy review.
+Tania Spies I think is would, I've towed doubles and used an air bag hitch on the second trailer and it helped. Geny Hitch has as much travel as the air bag hitch I used so it should work the same.
I feel that the hitch is so far out from the bumper that you would need a WDH at a significantly lighter trailer weight than if the hitch was nice and close to your bumper. Great video, I wonder if extreme weather will change the rubber inside to be either soft or brittle...
+matt schmader The torsion is set up the same as on torsion axles in horse trailers, RV, car trailers. I've towed those trailers for decades without one freezing or wearing out
I like the concept, However I just purchased a dually and some say that a weight distribution is no longer necessary along with sway control .What is your feeling about that since my trailer is 10,000 lbs and I have a 1100 lb lounge weight. I sure would like the hitch you reviewed to ease all those uneven surfaces on the highway . It sure would smooth out the ride . What do you say about weight distribution hitches and sway control and dually trucks, are they needed still .
You'll need to read your owners manual. Ram on some years say over 12,000 lb trailer you need WDH, lately Ford and GM rate WDH and weight carrying the same. Have you tried the trailer yet?
Yes i did , the bumper pull trailer is a 3 axle Toy hauler . Its 35 ft from front of hitch to tail lights. I towed it 500 miles in the rain and had no problems . It towed solid and was very stable without a weight distribution hitch . I towed it with a 2011 Duramax crew cab long box dually . The tongue weight of the trailer is 1,260 lbs and the combined weight of tongue and trailer is 9.960 lbs . I have access to agriculture scales 24/7 so i have real world data and weighed the trailer by itself unhitched jack down on the scale and the trailer came in at 9,960 lbs . Then i weighed it again with the weight on the hitch of the truck and all 3 axles of the trailer still on the scale and it came in at 8700 lbs . The total weight of my truck and trailer and me and the dog on the scale was 18,700lbs The Duramax has the 2.5 hitch receiver and the hitch i bought is rated to 12,000 lbs and then the ball is a 2 5/16ths and the ball is made in china . I dont know what the ball is rated for .It was the only thing available for me to get the trailer home . The trailer is a 3 axle toy hauler and rated for a 5,500 lb load . I will be hauling a 1,300lb ATV in the bed of the truck while pulling the trailer . And then some other toys in the trailer so i will be over the 12000 lb limit of my bumper pull hitch . Not the Chevy mounted receiver hitch , just the 2 1/2 hitch and ball . So is there any advantage or safety concerns about not having a weight distribution and sway control while pulling 11,000 lbs on a modern dually . Is it possible to to get into a out of control trailer sway condition with a dually ? Have you ever heard of it happening to a person with a dually . Or will it just make the ride a bit nicer? Thanks
Like them both, but I'd go Geny. Only thing wrong with Shocker bumper hitch is you have to let some air out to get the hitch off. But that was on an old hitch, that may have changed.
hey mrtruck love your videos i watch yours and thefastlanetruck religiously. I was wondering if you guys are ever going to get any of the big big trucks as press vehicles like the new f650 or ram 5500?
+MrTruckTV that would be awesome I know ford has been running there comercials on youtube for it like crazy so it only makes sense that they would send you one.
overall, very subjective. I would prefer a clinical trial and result, whereby forces are measured. this is a demo of how the geny works, and not one of objective results achieved.
I give this video a D- because of the EXTREMELY LOUD advertisement at 0:46. It just about blew out my ears. This kind of add gimmick turns me off. I won't even finish this video. Thumbs down.
+MrTruckTV Thanks for replying. not the add still has the EXTREMELY LOUD section in it. Could you remove the video, fix it and return it to YOU-TUBE.. I came back because it is a good video and describes the process very well. Would like to see it fixed. Thanks.
@@MrTruckTV No one, but you didn't note that either...so someone who purchases it without that knowledge is going to end up with a truck that is nose-up, particularly if the hitch is loaded to near capacity.
Ideally you want a pin that is right on the rear axle. In practice as close as possible. The further the pin from rear axle the more leverage the pin wight jacks the front. I dont like it.
I personally don't see spending that much money on something that puts a bigger load on your rear suspension let alone raising the front of your truck less control on turns and braking this will get someone on the road killed
This will make the trailer sway and track in its own vs the truck. Tongue weight will be amplified as well the future the ball is from tge receiver. Not a good design.
I don't tow anything remotely that heavy with my trailer and my SUV. However I do appreciate American made products. Great video.
Thank you
The pin is almost a foot further back that many other hitches. The further back the pin is fron the rear axle, the more it lifts the front axle. This defeats the purpose of the newer F250 attaching their hitches closer to the rear axle
Why the loud music in the beginning? Unnecessary and kinda alarming outta nowhere!
DOPE HITCH THOUGH!
I rock the 2” 16-K 9” drop with a hitch mounted full size spare tire rack slipped in the top notch then my 4x4 ARMY DYI CAMP/BUG OUT TRAILER mounted about halfway down the 9” drop...
MY CAR TRAILER USES THE LOWEST NOTCH/HITCH SPOT ON THE 9” DROP...
AND THIS TRUCK IS ONLY A 6” LIFT! 35x12.50R20
SO THE DROP IS MANDATORY!
NICE VIDEO THOUGH BUDDY!
Thanks for always coming through!
Mr. Truck I love my Gen-y 6" drop hitch (no torsion-not that heavy of trailer). I just wanted to let you know that the new 17 Super Duties have a taller or longer (in lowered position) tailgate than in previous years. If you want to drop the tailgate with the trailer attached you need more length in the shank or entire hitch setup. Gen-y gives you the extra length to be able to do this. If not you can drop the tailgate or camera on the jack for disconnecting the trailer. Just another selling point. Love the videos.
Thanks
RIP Headphone users at 0:46 Bajesus
Great video. Im not sold on this though. Watching the video I am see things that can wear down or break at the worst of times.
Wow. I would love something this stout and high tech... but $500-$800... thats how much i spent building my 8x16 tandem deckover.
I do like the concept that they have there if give this hitch 10 stars I'm going to save and get one this would work for my job bc I hul boats around and it would save my truck alot
my only comment is that it's pushing the hitch further away from the tow vehicle which may cause further stresses on the tow bar. The unit itself looks well made and an interesting concept. Are they going to be sold in Australia?
Campbell Peters it's not moving the tow vehicle farther away the weight of the trailer is in the same spot. All it's doing is allowing the truck and trailer to have another pivot point instead of being solid on the truck which is truly harder on the receiver hitch. I tow boat and for my job and I'm really thinking about getting one very awesome concept and does take away alot of the stress on your vehicle and trailer
They just came out with a light duty version of this hitch. I have it and it works great.
Joe Gage which one is the light duty?
sergiu gujumit Gen-Y Glydee Hitch, has a single pivot point and can do 7,000lbs
We are a family of 4 living full time in a RV. We have a 36' bumper pull RV with a max weight of 11,200 LBS. I have been looking most between the Anderson WD and the Equalizer WD. I went to Geny Hitches website and they state this hitch virtually eliminates all sway. When you are pulling a house as large as mine from the bumper, sway control is important. Winds have a major affect on how your trailer tracks behind your truck. I see that you have experiences with the reg Geny, the Torsion Flex Geny and on TFL you have used the Anderson WD. In your opinion which is best for a large trailer? The reg Geny W/ WD, Torsion Flex Geny, Anderson WD or Equalizer WD.
+FAMILY RV LIFE With that big of trailer, you need WDH on any of the hitches you use. What is the tow vehicle?
This is NOT an anti-sway hitch. You would still need a WDH with anti-sway when using this hitch. It's sole purpose is to reduce the impact of rough roads.
On the fence between Gen Y and the Shocker Hitch for giving our horses a softer ride.
Thanks why I sell them both
I love this hitch but I think my B&W is work pretty well
My goodness mr truck, I think you need an alignment now! sheesh what a road!
The highways in parts of Queensland Australia are worse than that
What a great review! 👍
Thank you kindly!
Can you still use your weight distributing hitch in conjunction with the GENY?
Yes
Love watchin your vids😃
Thanks
i know its an old review but since my truck is a low 2wd,can you use the receiver upside down?
Yes
Alberta shariffs might fine you for how low those chains droop so close to the road.
Usa 3-6" is what you want
Hi Mr.Truck, question for you. I have a 2004 lincoln Navigator and it came with air supension, but I recently swapped the air suspension with conventional coilover setup.. the coilovers I bought are a 2 inch drop from factory height. My question is, if its safe to tow with lowered springs? I did not cut them, they were engineered and manufactured to be less coil and they come mated with a ultra high pressured damping strut. do you think it is safe to hook up a trailer or would I bottom out on dips and potholes?
+Geovanni Delgado That would be a question for the aftermarket coil over you're using. You'll know after you tow with it, if it bottoms out. And it's important to keep the Lincoln level with a trailer so it will depend on how much the trailer weighs.
+MrTruckTV your right, and by trailer I dont mean nothing crazy in size. it would just be occasionally a U-Haul trailer plus its cargo weight and passenger weight. But thank you for your response!
Hello Mr Truck, thanks for the video. I recently purchased a 2022 GMC Diesel 2500, and I have a 28 foot Airstream TT . I did not attach a WD hitch and towed out West 10K miles with no sway problems and when driving on flat surfaces , it was so smooth with no problems at all.. The only issue I have is when I would go over a frost heave or a bump in the road, the front of my truck bounces what seems excessively. When I slow down this eliminates a lot of this, but since I never owned a truck before I was wondering if this hitch will help with that?
It would help, WDH would help too
Will it work if instead of using that 2 inch hitch ball I use the weight safe scale hitch together with this to tow a 6k trailer with tongue weight of 400 lbs ?
You can't use them together
B&W are pretty good
By the way it goes to 01:04 for Mr. Truck. It definitely SHOCKED ME.
enjoyed the video, I have been looking for something like this for a while and will give it a try on the down side it is kind of expensive and was wondering if you would recommend this hitch for towing a 22ft bumper pull trailer with a 8000lb skidsteer, we recently got a new tow vehicle (2015 chevy express 3500) and are trying to reduce wear and tear on it, we previously towed with a 2001 suburban 2500 and it wore out our tires unevenly and fast. in your opinion would this hitch help our needs or should i be looking at something different? thanks for your time and really enjoy the videos. ps would love to see an update on load trail atv trailer with lowering front gate to load atvs from trailer to pick up. thanks again and keep up the good work sir.
Why do you not have a wdh on the 8000 lb trailer you are towing?? I love the hitch and the torsion idea but thought over 5000lbs you needed wdh.
Yes, on some horse trailers it's hard to attach WDH. Later you will see the long term horse trailer we cut the holes in the trailer and use wdh. On a borrowed new horse trailer, we can't be cutting holes in it. Alot of 1/2 ton's now go to 7-8000 lbs of trailer before the OEM says you have to use wdh. But if you are towing a box trailer, like RV or cargo trailer, a good wdh with sway control helps much in windy conditions.
Does this hitch replace the need for a traditional weight distribution system? The website seems to say it solves some of the same problems.
You still need a weight distributing hitch, you can add one to the Gen-Y. A good wdh has sway control. Some HD trucks not need it, but 1/2 tons need the sway control and leveling that a good wdh can give
@@MrTruckTV if I didnt go Gen-y, what wdh would you recommend? I have a 2016 F150 3.5 ecoboost towing 7500lb on an open flat trailer.
For that weight you could go with Andersen WDH
how would you compare this to the air safe hitch or the shocker hitch. I'm looking for the best performing of the 3. I pull a 10k car trailer. of the 3, which one did the best job in your opinion. if you had to pick between the 3, which one would you go with. I am for sure going to get the shocker hitch for my Gooseneck trailer but stuck on which one to buy for my bumper pull trailers. thanks in advance.
+mhrepoman I haven't used air safe hitch. I like Shocker and use them, as far as a bumper pull cushion system, I'd pick the Geny torsion flex. Geny is the simplest and least maintenance. I like simple.
I absolutely love my airsafe class 6. mrgg12345 channel for a video. Adjustability is very nice.
I looks like trailer is going up and down more on the hitch ball itself than on that receiver , prob. All it helps with is dumping vibration if that receiver even has some kids of rubber bushings in that hitch , otherwise not a big improvement
+Viktor P From the video of the hitch on the road, you can see that the trailer and truck are moving separately, that's the point to isolate movement.
+MrTruckTV
But truck and trailer already moving somewhat independently , trailer is not welded to the truck hitch, trailer moves up and down on the ball that's why we have it for the trailer to move up and down left to right ?
I could be wrong now !
+MrTruckTV
Look at ur video where trailer is connected to the ball on receiver , trailer moves up and down on the ball more than that receiver arms moves , obviously it helps but the way u say it is like the trailer is solid welded to the truck hitch , which is misleading , tortion suspension trailers move independently, trailer hitch slides on ball receiver , this hitch receiver is just a backup where maybe if u go off-roading and ur road is really looks like after ww2
+Viktor P The ball and coupler like your shoulder socket is fairly tight, that's how they are designed. Just like a gooeneck coupler compared to a mini 5th wheel, big difference in the connection. The min-5th wheel is a loose connection moves dramatically compared to a ball socket.
On a normal trailer hitch, you feel all the vibration the trailer feels and the horse in the trailer feels what the truck is doing. It does make a difference. With horses you see a difference in how they perform after a long haul.
+Viktor P Generally torsion axles only have about 2.5 inches of travel. Which means if the trailer axle moves 2.5 inches, beyond that the suspension is left to the flexing of the tire. Keeping the torsion axle inside if it's wheel travel improves it's ride.
Geny hitch with a loaded trailer, the hitch drops to the center of the torsion travel so it can move up and down.
Kent... Do you think this would be helpful on a lighter tandem axle travel trailer w/appx wt = 5000 pounds????
+Mark S Yes, I can test that, out of town for a couple weeks testing trucks in Texas. I'll test a smaller trailer when I get back.
MrTruckTV thank you so much Kent!!
I have a 2018 Raptor SuperCab. Tow rating is 5k or 6k with WDH. I was looking at the anderson wdh until I came across this. My trailer is 2000lbs and car is 3000lbs. Looking for the safest way to tow. Can I use this or is a wdh necessary? The wdh seem like a pain to set up, if I could use this instead, I’d rather do that. What would you recommend?
Yes, the Andersen WDH will work. I don't like it for 10k trailers and heavier, but for light trailers it controls sway and does some weight distributing. It would be great for 6000 lb trailer on the Raptor
MrTruckTV Since I will be towing 5k lbs, is a whd necessary on the supercab? Also, would you recommend getting the Sumo Springs or RAS to help with sag? Does the Gen-Y torsion control hitch help with sway or sag?
I say yes you need WDH. I wouldn't put an overload spring or Sumo on a Raptor. We use the Gen-Y torsion with it's WDH. It works great for heavy trailers. I think at your trailer weight, the Andersen WDH will do the job. Gen-Y quit selling WDH. Now they have a shank to use with any WDH.
Would you recommend also having a weight distribution with this hitch?
Looking for max comfort and safety
I'm going to try it.
What about sway control. Can you get this with sway control arms?
Yes you can add wdh to this hitch. I'm done it. It makes for a long hitch
Between this and the shocker hitch: which did you prefer?
This one, mrtruck.com/geny.htm
Thank you, I was leaning towards the geny due to no airbag & not changing ground clearance but didn't know if there was something I was missing on the shocker, or another one I should consider
Hey thanks for the vids, how does this handle away control? I pull a 37' travel trailer and I am using Andersen wd and was wondering if this would be a safe and stronger replacement.
This Gen-Y hitch is for cushion
@@MrTruckTV thanks, is there a wd hitch that you recommend other than Andersen wd? Would like to know my options.
I always thought a solid non moving piece of metal would be stronger than something that flexes
It's plenty strong, you can't hurt it but isolating the movement of the truck and the movement of the trailer, is key to better ride for the truck and trailer.
Would that hitch work on a two trailer setup? I'm curious to know if it would stop the second trailer bump bumping up and down as it did in the Chevy review.
+Tania Spies I think is would, I've towed doubles and used an air bag hitch on the second trailer and it helped. Geny Hitch has as much travel as the air bag hitch I used so it should work the same.
+MrTruckTV Thanks, I wish we had these types of things in Australia.
I thought you had good roads Down Under
MrTruckTV Where did you hear that lie?
I have pulled double trailers all over the country. I've used an air bag hitch for the second trailer.
Could I use this in conjunction with my blue ox WDH for my travel trailer?
I think so, it had the same hitch size as the class 3 receiver hitch
I feel that the hitch is so far out from the bumper that you would need a WDH at a significantly lighter trailer weight than if the hitch was nice and close to your bumper. Great video, I wonder if extreme weather will change the rubber inside to be either soft or brittle...
+matt schmader The torsion is set up the same as on torsion axles in horse trailers, RV, car trailers. I've towed those trailers for decades without one freezing or wearing out
I agree with ya, seems like it’s way too far away from the truck. So much torque on that hitch
Truck bolted hitch is moving to
I like the concept, However I just purchased a dually and some say that a weight distribution is no longer necessary along with sway control .What is your feeling about that since my trailer is 10,000 lbs and I have a 1100 lb lounge weight. I sure would like the hitch you reviewed to ease all those uneven surfaces on the highway . It sure would smooth out the ride . What do you say about weight distribution hitches and sway control and dually trucks, are they needed still .
You'll need to read your owners manual. Ram on some years say over 12,000 lb trailer you need WDH, lately Ford and GM rate WDH and weight carrying the same. Have you tried the trailer yet?
Yes i did , the bumper pull trailer is a 3 axle Toy hauler . Its 35 ft from front of hitch to tail lights. I towed it 500 miles in the rain and had no problems . It towed solid and was very stable without a weight distribution hitch . I towed it with a 2011 Duramax crew cab long box dually . The tongue weight of the trailer is 1,260 lbs and the combined weight of tongue and trailer is 9.960 lbs . I have access to agriculture scales 24/7 so i have real world data and weighed the trailer by itself unhitched jack down on the scale and the trailer came in at 9,960 lbs . Then i weighed it again with the weight on the hitch of the truck and all 3 axles of the trailer still on the scale and it came in at 8700 lbs . The total weight of my truck and trailer and me and the dog on the scale was 18,700lbs The Duramax has the 2.5 hitch receiver and the hitch i bought is rated to 12,000 lbs and then the ball is a 2 5/16ths and the ball is made in china . I dont know what the ball is rated for .It was the only thing available for me to get the trailer home . The trailer is a 3 axle toy hauler and rated for a 5,500 lb load . I will be hauling a 1,300lb ATV in the bed of the truck while pulling the trailer . And then some other toys in the trailer so i will be over the 12000 lb limit of my bumper pull hitch . Not the Chevy mounted receiver hitch , just the 2 1/2 hitch and ball . So is there any advantage or safety concerns about not having a weight distribution and sway control while pulling 11,000 lbs on a modern dually . Is it possible to to get into a out of control trailer sway condition with a dually ? Have you ever heard of it happening to a person with a dually . Or will it just make the ride a bit nicer? Thanks
Look in your owners manual on WDH. GM is particuler on using WDH in your year of Duramax. Now GM and Ford rate WDH and WC (weight carrying the same.
@@Trike. did you end up getting the torsion hitch for your rig?
So mr. Truck would you say the shocker hitch or this hitch?
Like them both, but I'd go Geny. Only thing wrong with Shocker bumper hitch is you have to let some air out to get the hitch off. But that was on an old hitch, that may have changed.
@@MrTruckTV I really appreciate your time and effort to reply. I love when you and andre do truck reviews!
hey mrtruck love your videos i watch yours and thefastlanetruck religiously. I was wondering if you guys are ever going to get any of the big big trucks as press vehicles like the new f650 or ram 5500?
+bravoballer2 maybe a F750
+MrTruckTV that would be awesome I know ford has been running there comercials on youtube for it like crazy so it only makes sense that they would send you one.
Very interesting video. Have you ever tested or experience with the Hensley Hitch? It would be great if you could compare these hitch systems.
Not yet!
Can you put a weight distribution hitch in it?
+Dalton Hill Yes they offer a WDH On the Geny
Can you help me out please?!? I need a hitch that can handle 27,000 lbs I'm having a hard time finding one with good reviews.
You want to bumper pull 27,000lbs? What is the tow vehicle?
I don't know of any receiver hitch over 21,000 lbs. The new 2017 Super Duty Fords have a 3 inch receiver and rated at 21,000 lbs of trailer
overall, very subjective. I would prefer a clinical trial and result, whereby forces are measured. this is a demo of how the geny works, and not one of objective results achieved.
Sorry, but not sold on this hitch. Too expensive and I can't see it making that much of a difference.
Do they make one for the larger receivers
Yes
MrTruckTV how much for 2 1/2
www.mrtrailer.com/genysale.htm
I give this video a D- because of the EXTREMELY LOUD advertisement at 0:46. It just about blew out my ears. This kind of add gimmick turns me off. I won't even finish this video. Thumbs down.
+Roger Pacific Sorry about that, it was past footage I put together and didn't realize the sound was a different level.
+MrTruckTV Thanks for replying. not the add still has the EXTREMELY LOUD section in it. Could you remove the video, fix it and return it to YOU-TUBE.. I came back because it is a good video and describes the process very well. Would like to see it fixed. Thanks.
Roger Pacific haha weird you're like ever sensitive person in this world. Bitching about stupid shit!!!! Grow up and get a set of balls
can it handle weight distribution
Yes, it's made for that. We'll be trying it out in a TFL truck video soon
+MrTruckTV let me know when the video comes out
Will do
I wonder if you can hook up the inteli-Hitch to this and have total domination? haha?
Not a weight distributing hitch, so while it may cushion the ride, your truck is going to be nose-up
Who said it was a WDH?
@@MrTruckTV No one, but you didn't note that either...so someone who purchases it without that knowledge is going to end up with a truck that is nose-up, particularly if the hitch is loaded to near capacity.
Some of the parts are within 2" of the pavement
No, we are higher
Ideally you want a pin that is right on the rear axle. In practice as close as possible. The further the pin from rear axle the more leverage the pin wight jacks the front. I dont like it.
had one will not improve your ride at all go with air ride hitch
I personally don't see spending that much money on something that puts a bigger load on your rear suspension let alone raising the front of your truck less control on turns and braking this will get someone on the road killed
Have you used one or are you just making this up?
Didnt even hit any big bumps? what a waste of time
+Tyler Harty Wrong, I hit pot holes on the edge of the road so hard, it bent one of the axle spindles on the trailer.
Sorry didn't mean to sound negative now that I look at my comment it kinda sounded like it but I did love the video
might be really cool but for the price NO THANKS!!
Cheap ass.
This will make the trailer sway and track in its own vs the truck. Tongue weight will be amplified as well the future the ball is from tge receiver. Not a good design.
It doesn't make the trailer sway and with the torsion on the truck, I can use WDH
Gimmick.