@@Stinky_Steven Check out as much from that 1991 season as you can. Mark Rypien was sacked 9 times all year! They tore it up. It was one of those years that by week 10 you knew who the Superbowl champ was going to be, and I am not even a Redskins fan.
Sydney Mabry The only way to waste timeouts in the last seconds of a half is to not use them at all. As a Bama fan, I have to agree that he would’ve most likely missed it anyway, though. Fortunately, it doesn’t usually matter too much against opponents like Tennessee.
@@QwertyCaesar I'd believe that the most for bad weather games. The icing the Raiders did on the Patriots in the championship game gave the team time to make a free spot for Adam Vinataeri in the snow.
I've never understood why the double timeout rule even existed. Yeah if, in the worst case scenario, all 6 timeouts (both teams) happened at once, it would take a long time, but teams don't have more after that. It's not like the game overall would take longer. It would just be a mini-halftime during the half, instead of several micro-halftimes.
Vincent Killion I think it’s beacuse the fans watching may tune off of the game beacuse of the constent timeouts with no game. Also cause advertisers may want ads spread through the game. The rule is prob for the business side of the game not the practical use
While this is a situation that would rarely ever come up because of the fact that teams only have three timeouts per half it does have both practical and broadcasting purposes.
@@Rowgue51 The OP was saying 3 TO's called by 1 team and 3 called by the other team. So without the rule it could be possible to see 6 To's in a row. I don't think fanns would tune out though. Because any situation critical enough to NEED 6 To's in a row would have to be leading into a GAME DECIDING play, right? A VERY important play. What you also have to remember is that Football has a DELAY OF GAME penalty... (so does basketball but it rarely comes up and when it does most Fans, Announcers, Players and Coaches do not understand what is going on... because really almost NOBODY actually understands the rules of basketball except the Best Referees. For example did you even know Basketball has rules on Delay of Game... probably not)... ANYWAYS... To have so many TO's called in a row in Football would more or less violate the DELAY OF GAME rules... which BTW is a 5 Yard Penalty. So it seems to me the NFL just realized they had NOT been enforcing a rule they already had all along.
@@brucemercer7753 The delay of game rule in basketball isn't a secret. You used to see it all the time. They just stopped calling it like they did with palming,traveling and just about everything else in basketball.
But this rule has only been enacted on the defense. Why would you give a delay of game to the offense when the defense used the double timeout to prevent a delay of game or ice the kicker?
The worst part of that Redskins-Bills game had to be that... Rian Lindell was known for not having a heck of a lot of range. I think we had some of the worst touchback percentages in the league with him, though Carpenter ended up being not much better, and the accuracy went to hell outside about 45 with him. So to make it from a 51 to a 36 yarder (he had sniper accuracy inside 40) had to be the difference.
Andrew Brennan. I’m a Bills fan. I couldn’t believe JOE GIBBS did that. (The man had been coaching forevvvvvver). I was very happy when it happened. You are correct. When Gibbs was asked about the timeout in his post-game press conference, he stated that he basically had just had a brain lock. He totally forgot that he had already called a timeout to ice Lindell, and thought he had to ice the kicker.
I'm surprised you didn't mention that the Redskins game you talked about was the first game the Redskins played at home after Sean Taylor was killed. So they lose a game they were probably trying to win for Sean possibly due to this penalty.
I went to a Huskies Ducks game where Chip Kelly used all three timeouts before the half to ice the kicker. I guess college has a different stance on pace of play.
Was that in November 2011? I remember something like that happening on the same day as the "Game of the Century" between Alabama and LSU, but maybe that's just me.
I vividly remember the penalty on the Redskins! I was listening to the game on the radio with my dad waiting for my mom to leave work. We got so excited! It kept us in the hunt for at least another week at the time - how naive we were to think the Bills would make something of it.
Yeah, in retrospect, I honestly would've preferred the Skins getting a more feel good moment and the Bills getting better draft position -- though given that they took Leodis McKelvin 8 spots ahead of Joe Flacco, I don't know if it would've helped. Oh well, at least we're... hmmm....
Saying Pete Carroll *didn't* know what he was doing when it comes to the rules, is like saying Bill Belichick doesn't know the rules. Those two know the rules better than the people that wrote them.
Yoooo this just happened at the end of tnf week 2 2019. The Panthers were 4th and 2 at the 3 with a minute left down 6 and they got half the distance when Bruce Arians called a second timeout. They then ran wildcat for McCaffrey and were just short, sadly ending the game
@@ryneprince7113 No he's def correct, Panthers fan here, and I scrolled down to the comments to see if I found any mention of that game. That was how I learned that the 2 consecutive timeout rule is a thing...when it happened I was thinking yoooo what a godsend!!! But then we lost anyway wtf 😂
More likely than not, If it seemed intention on the refs part then they would be immediately pulled from reffing any games, and given a fine by the officiating board. It's not really a good idea for them, and double time outs happen very rarely. The coach would have to bribe the ref, then hope that the other team calls a double time out just to get that to happen.
@@Twl0802 More like an opportunistic move. The coach asks for a second timeout. Ref likes him he refuses the timeout. Ref hates him he gives the timeout and later goes "Oh I shouldn't have, you get yards penalty".
Funnily enough this happened again against the Bills in 2020 against the Cardinals who called 2 timeouts, but because of no fans in the stands you could actually hear Sean Mcdermott telling the ref you can't do that.
A continuation on the last point, there's also rules against calling timeouts when you don't have one left. The pats loved the "fake ice" where the players would start signalling for timeouts even though they had none to throw the kicker off
Oh he definitely knew that rule. It happened in a Panthers game earlier this season the opponent was given a consecutive timeout, the clock was stopped and Rivera had to scream “THEY CANT DO THAT!” at the ref until they threw a flag lol
This rule actually just got enforced during the lions bears game on thanksgiving a couple weeks ago, Campbell called 2 timeouts in a row and the bears got a free 5 yards
That's a perfectly reasonable rule. Being a ref (at least most positions of ref) requires laser focus, especially in the seconds before the snap. And with all those late time outs coming in, there is a serious issue about reacting to them quickly (otherwise you get a snap with one team playing and the other team not playing, which is a huge injury risk). So take your pick: do you want coaches and player having the chance to call a time out half a second before the play clock runs out and them reacting fast enough or do you want them to ponder whether a time out is legitimate first? It happens. So the people to blame are the ones that try to do something they aren't allowed to. Ignorance doesn't protect from punishment.
Pete Carroll didn't "break the rules", he asked for the time out, not forced them to give a timeout. They are the ones enforcing the rules and if they gave it the mistake is theirs.
I would love to see SB Nation take a look at that madness that is "Bottlegate," the infamous Cleveland/Jacksonville game in December of 2001. I'm not sure which SB Nation show would handle it, because it involves a critical rule, bonkers reffing, a lot of rewind context, and it all ends in chaos.
That Skins Bills game was the first weekend of me living in the US. I was in the Fort Myers area where Sean Taylor was murdered a few days before (my first day there). I felt so bad for the Skins losing on a 15 yard penalty.
I remember this happened to the Saints. They were playing the chiefs while Sean Payton was suspended. I think they were trying to ice a kicker or something and there was a coaching miscommunication.
Jacob Kelly to make it more fair for the keeper. It allows them to know when the shot is coming and start moving before it happens. Otherwise it would be way to easy to score using trickery and waiting for the keeper to react.
You guys need to do a episode of the Buffalo Bills ending the 17 yr playoff drought. So much had to happen on that New Years eve night. It would be such a great episode
I remember that Redskins game with the Joe Gibbs coaching. Mind you this was Gibbs' second coming with the Skins. After winning two Super Bowl's, he took a bunch of years off and we began to collapse. Then he returned in all of his glory to save us (really he just needed the extra cash), only to make stupid mistakes like that for two years.
I'm not sure if the same rule exists in the NCAA, but I saw a team get away with the double timeout a couple years ago. Texas double-iced a two-pt. attempt against West Virginia in 2018, and there was no call from the refs. West Virginia still ended up converting and winning the game.
Fun fact (its not actually Fun) that bills-Redskins game was the first game after the death of Sean Taylor, and the Redskins blew that game with that peaty.........
happened bills redskins in the game after sean taylors death went for a 50+ field goal they called consecutive timeouts i believe it was like a 10 yard penalty bc it was a much closer kick and bills won
You should do a cricket one. Ben stokes diving in the 2019 world Cup final and the ball hit his bat and goes for four but they get six runs. Incredible
No judge is perfect. Everyone makes mistakes and everyone is subject to mental heuristics. The refs are overseeing a lot of things, so it's not surprising to me that one might occasionally react using system 1 thought to approve a timeout which seems right on the surface. Carroll knows this and took advantage of the ref. It's pretty fundamentally crooked, if you think about it, and the fact that there are people who leverage heuristics that way, followed by the refs getting blamed, is a damning indictment of our society.
Roller Derby right now has a similar rules discussion going on. If you try to call an Official Review or Timeout when you don't have any, or your jammer tries to call the jam off while they are not lead, there is no penalty. The rational being that it hasn't impacted the game. If a referee grants your request, it has now impacted the game, so there is now a penalty. A common conversation has become "should an incorrect attempt at any of these things be a penalty no matter what, so as to remove the officiating crew's ability to accidentally impact the game?"
I was there for that Skins v Bills game... It was terrible and convinced me to never attend a Skins game again. Leave it to the skins to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. The sad thing is that even if they had won it would have been a "finally, glad that's over with" instead of a celebration.
Can we get some more videos in the Collapse series please? Maybe one on the early 2000s Yankees, who struggled to get back to the top after losing to the Marlins in the 2003 World Series. Or one on the Detroit Pistons who pretty much fell apart after losing to the Celtics in the 08 ECF. Or one on the 90s Cowboys, 49ers or Bills. All of those franchises fell on hard times after having long runs of dominance. There are so many videos you guys could do for that series. I think it’s a great idea for video series and I hope you guys make some more!
Shane Young he iced his own kicker and his kicker made the first but missed the second after the timeout and the cardinals would win the game in overtime
Why are back to back timeouts even illegal to begin with? You only get three, it seems that the fact that you've burned through them that quickly is enough of a penalty.
Sounds like it's the ref's fault, and HE should be suspended instead. Not sure if you meant that due to the way you worded your sentence. It's completely ambiguous.
@@jliller Its a rule that was in Rugby, but was removed a long time ago. Australian rules football still has it though. This rule has been in the league since the start. Why does it still exist? With there being only 6 known successful attempts in NFL history, there just hasn't been a need to do anything with the rule. The last successful attempt was in 1976. Now if a team wins a Superbowl with this then it might be something that is brought up, but until then its just not a factor.
Hey, can you clarify something on this? I’ve heard that only a player or the head coach can call a time out. Is it true that if someone else, not eligible, tries to call a second time out and the refs fall for it, the team can’t be penalized?
This rule just leaves room for exploitation. (using your example) if a kicker gets iced once and then the call comes in for another time out and the ref ignores it all is good, but if the ref KNOWS its against the rules and just wants to punish you they can "forget" about the rule and then 5 seconds later just say.. 'oh never mind 15 yard penalty'. Am I missing something here? I don't watch sports (find this channel just interesting for videos like this) but is it not common practice to get refs that just *know* the rules so stuff like this doesn't happen?
I’ve known this rule for a long time because Madden doesn’t let you take 2 timeouts in a row
Sameee. 😂 Tryna hit select and they never let you. 💀
Same
Interesting, I wonder why they don't just give you the fifteen yard penalty
KevinG99 I did to
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The Bills against the Redskins. That sounds like a terrible game.
That was once a Superbowl.
It wasn’t good then either, the redskins destroyed them
@@Stinky_Steven I hooked Washington and the over. I thought it was great!
Which was both terrible (in that it was so one-sided) and awesome. HTTR!
I wish I was alive to see it, I’m a huge skins fan
@@Stinky_Steven Check out as much from that 1991 season as you can. Mark Rypien was sacked 9 times all year! They tore it up. It was one of those years that by week 10 you knew who the Superbowl champ was going to be, and I am not even a Redskins fan.
Tennessee triple iced Alabama’s kicker in 2019 and guess what.... he missed the kick
Cj Davis YAY
To be fair, all you’d really have to do to ice a bama kicker is whisper “hey, buddy. You’re gonna miss hehe”
Cj Davis Alabama Kickers ice themselves
What a waste of 3 timeouts. He would have missed anyways
Sydney Mabry The only way to waste timeouts in the last seconds of a half is to not use them at all. As a Bama fan, I have to agree that he would’ve most likely missed it anyway, though. Fortunately, it doesn’t usually matter too much against opponents like Tennessee.
"Sneaky" Pete iced a kicker once and it led to elimination from the playoffs (2013 divisionals vs Atlanta). Sometimes you lose when you gamble.
Somebody once did the math about a decade back and found that icing the kicker hurt more than it helped - at least at the professional level anyways.
@@QwertyCaesar I'd believe that the most for bad weather games. The icing the Raiders did on the Patriots in the championship game gave the team time to make a free spot for Adam Vinataeri in the snow.
I've never understood why the double timeout rule even existed. Yeah if, in the worst case scenario, all 6 timeouts (both teams) happened at once, it would take a long time, but teams don't have more after that. It's not like the game overall would take longer. It would just be a mini-halftime during the half, instead of several micro-halftimes.
Vincent Killion I think it’s beacuse the fans watching may tune off of the game beacuse of the constent timeouts with no game. Also cause advertisers may want ads spread through the game. The rule is prob for the business side of the game not the practical use
While this is a situation that would rarely ever come up because of the fact that teams only have three timeouts per half it does have both practical and broadcasting purposes.
Yeet Good point, i wonder how many other rules are for this reason or have a reason like this in them?
@@Rowgue51 The OP was saying 3 TO's called by 1 team and 3 called by the other team. So without the rule it could be possible to see 6 To's in a row. I don't think fanns would tune out though. Because any situation critical enough to NEED 6 To's in a row would have to be leading into a GAME DECIDING play, right? A VERY important play.
What you also have to remember is that Football has a DELAY OF GAME penalty... (so does basketball but it rarely comes up and when it does most Fans, Announcers, Players and Coaches do not understand what is going on... because really almost NOBODY actually understands the rules of basketball except the Best Referees. For example did you even know Basketball has rules on Delay of Game... probably not)... ANYWAYS...
To have so many TO's called in a row in Football would more or less violate the DELAY OF GAME rules... which BTW is a 5 Yard Penalty. So it seems to me the NFL just realized they had NOT been enforcing a rule they already had all along.
@@brucemercer7753
The delay of game rule in basketball isn't a secret. You used to see it all the time. They just stopped calling it like they did with palming,traveling and just about everything else in basketball.
"You cant double ice anyone."
Sounds like a mortal kombat sub zero joke.
FINISH HIM
Or smoking and injecting meth at the same time
Good ol "double ice backfire'
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MK2 is still the best lol
Whoever draws these are amazing
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The refs don't need the help of players & coaches to look stupid, they do just fine on their own lol
Lions just managed to get this penalty called against them. Nice.
glad someone else instantly came here lmao
@@nate_storm I’m here too. Happened against pretty recently in another game if I remember correctly
Ed Hochuli be lookin like a snack.
It would have cost you exactly $0 to not say that. So why did you?
Michael Hedworth just trying to make someone laugh no need to call anyone out
@@Dwaynoe_ball r/whoosh
Should just be called delay of game. Done.
jesusthroughmary that’s a penalty🤦🏽♂️
Jordan Gonz he means it should be a delay of game penalty
But this rule has only been enacted on the defense. Why would you give a delay of game to the offense when the defense used the double timeout to prevent a delay of game or ice the kicker?
@@julianbell9161 delay of game can be a defensive penalty such as when guys sit on guys they tackled in late-game situations to cause the clock to run
That Bills--Redskins game was right after Sean Taylor died smh was a totally heartbreaking loss
I actually kind of found it funny..
I've watched every single episode of weird rules, by far my favourite series on TH-cam!
The lack of Sean Taylor being referenced in that Bills/'Skins game made me sad and I'm not even a 'Skins fan.
Why would he be referenced?
Or did you mean during the game? Was taking that as him not being mentioned during this video.
@@thegoldfly1 -- This was the first game after he was murdered in a home invasion.
I'm not super big on sports but this is easily one of my favourite series on TH-cam lately. Keep em coming please
The Lions managed to get this rare rule called on them. How fitting
Bills actually won 17-16 vs the Redskins in 2007
Yeah! I remember listening to the game on the radio in the car with my dad, and us going nuts and laughing at the 'Skins when they got the penalty.
I remember that game. It was the Redskins' first game after the death of Sean Taylor.
@@hhscadets0925 😢
NinJackTV and today
In with all the Lions fan who saw MCDC pull this maneuver today.
If I was a ref I would always grant the extra timeout, then be like, oh oopsie now you've got a penalty.
You gotta rewind the immaculate reception, you just gotta
The worst part of that Redskins-Bills game had to be that... Rian Lindell was known for not having a heck of a lot of range. I think we had some of the worst touchback percentages in the league with him, though Carpenter ended up being not much better, and the accuracy went to hell outside about 45 with him. So to make it from a 51 to a 36 yarder (he had sniper accuracy inside 40) had to be the difference.
I'm not called Gary, but I appreciate the shoutout. I like to live vicariously.
*viGARYously
....I’ll show myself out....
As a Skins fan I remember that game happening, it was the first game after Taylor's murder
I remember it too. I don't think Gibbs was trying to cheat the refs with a 2nd timeout, just a mistake on his end.
I remember this game as a Bills fan. What a odd game that was
taylor who
@@McLovin1776Sean Taylor
Andrew Brennan. I’m a Bills fan. I couldn’t believe JOE GIBBS did that. (The man had been coaching forevvvvvver). I was very happy when it happened. You are correct.
When Gibbs was asked about the timeout in his post-game press conference, he stated that he basically had just had a brain lock. He totally forgot that he had already called a timeout to ice Lindell, and thought he had to ice the kicker.
I'm surprised you didn't mention that the Redskins game you talked about was the first game the Redskins played at home after Sean Taylor was killed. So they lose a game they were probably trying to win for Sean possibly due to this penalty.
If you get penalized for getting away with it, you're not getting away with it.
I just found this channel last week and it’s without a doubt one of my favorite channels
Damn crazy to think the kicker you brought up for the bills redskins game is now my pe teacher
I went to a Huskies Ducks game where Chip Kelly used all three timeouts before the half to ice the kicker. I guess college has a different stance on pace of play.
Was that in November 2011?
I remember something like that happening on the same day as the "Game of the Century" between Alabama and LSU, but maybe that's just me.
Pete carol did this in Russell Wilson’s first start vs cardinals back when the replacement refs were working
I remember that. He called a fourth timeout with the clock winding down and the refs gave it to him. Seems par for the course for Pete Carroll.
Yo homies... pass the salt, y’all have had it long enough!!
I vividly remember the penalty on the Redskins! I was listening to the game on the radio with my dad waiting for my mom to leave work. We got so excited! It kept us in the hunt for at least another week at the time - how naive we were to think the Bills would make something of it.
Yeah, in retrospect, I honestly would've preferred the Skins getting a more feel good moment and the Bills getting better draft position -- though given that they took Leodis McKelvin 8 spots ahead of Joe Flacco, I don't know if it would've helped. Oh well, at least we're... hmmm....
the lions actually did this yesterday on thanksgiving during the final 2 minutes. the refs called the timeout and then penalized the lions for it
Saying Pete Carroll *didn't* know what he was doing when it comes to the rules, is like saying Bill Belichick doesn't know the rules. Those two know the rules better than the people that wrote them.
The main guy is really good at his position. Speaks well, explains well, and gives positive reinforcement to the guest's comment.
Yoooo this just happened at the end of tnf week 2 2019. The Panthers were 4th and 2 at the 3 with a minute left down 6 and they got half the distance when Bruce Arians called a second timeout. They then ran wildcat for McCaffrey and were just short, sadly ending the game
That's not the same thing they are talking about
@@ryneprince7113 No he's def correct, Panthers fan here, and I scrolled down to the comments to see if I found any mention of that game. That was how I learned that the 2 consecutive timeout rule is a thing...when it happened I was thinking yoooo what a godsend!!! But then we lost anyway wtf 😂
Love how this just happened in the Washington Pittsburgh game with Alex Smith. xD
and this video appeared in my recomendation list
I've always felt like players and coaches request a timeout and the ref/umpire calls them.
Hi I'm Gary.
Thanks for the shout out.
The titles of these videos are always more interesting than the actual story.
Refs should call a penalty on themselves for being bad at their job
Triple icing in the Nebraska Northwestern game just last weekend.
The last time I was this early the Seahawks were still planning to run the ball.
the last time i was this early that joke was still funny
Rated Ace it’s still funny. Also 28-3 2:08 3rd
Sooo if refs “forget” they could punish the other team to a 15 yd penalty? Seems fun to me
sounds like a way to rig games.
@@funguy3453 I mean.. the coach doesn't have to try and cheat...
More likely than not, If it seemed intention on the refs part then they would be immediately pulled from reffing any games, and given a fine by the officiating board. It's not really a good idea for them, and double time outs happen very rarely. The coach would have to bribe the ref, then hope that the other team calls a double time out just to get that to happen.
@@Twl0802 More like an opportunistic move. The coach asks for a second timeout. Ref likes him he refuses the timeout. Ref hates him he gives the timeout and later goes "Oh I shouldn't have, you get yards penalty".
I'll tell my Dad you said hello. He'll probably tell me to say hello back. So... Gary says hello.
Funnily enough this happened again against the Bills in 2020 against the Cardinals who called 2 timeouts, but because of no fans in the stands you could actually hear Sean Mcdermott telling the ref you can't do that.
A continuation on the last point, there's also rules against calling timeouts when you don't have one left. The pats loved the "fake ice" where the players would start signalling for timeouts even though they had none to throw the kicker off
As a Bills fan, I would be mad if it wasn't so true. Well said.
Oh he definitely knew that rule. It happened in a Panthers game earlier this season the opponent was given a consecutive timeout, the clock was stopped and Rivera had to scream “THEY CANT DO THAT!” at the ref until they threw a flag lol
This rule actually just got enforced during the lions bears game on thanksgiving a couple weeks ago, Campbell called 2 timeouts in a row and the bears got a free 5 yards
Rewinder: Jayson Werths 13 pitch walk-off homerun in the NLDS
So it’s the refs choice to either wave it off or grant the time out and then slap on the penalty.
And the refs got TOO MUCH CONTROL of the outcome of the game all the sudden....
That's a perfectly reasonable rule. Being a ref (at least most positions of ref) requires laser focus, especially in the seconds before the snap. And with all those late time outs coming in, there is a serious issue about reacting to them quickly (otherwise you get a snap with one team playing and the other team not playing, which is a huge injury risk). So take your pick: do you want coaches and player having the chance to call a time out half a second before the play clock runs out and them reacting fast enough or do you want them to ponder whether a time out is legitimate first? It happens. So the people to blame are the ones that try to do something they aren't allowed to. Ignorance doesn't protect from punishment.
Pete Carroll didn't "break the rules", he asked for the time out, not forced them to give a timeout. They are the ones enforcing the rules and if they gave it the mistake is theirs.
2:25 Your animator is old and I love it hahahah
I would love to see SB Nation take a look at that madness that is "Bottlegate," the infamous Cleveland/Jacksonville game in December of 2001. I'm not sure which SB Nation show would handle it, because it involves a critical rule, bonkers reffing, a lot of rewind context, and it all ends in chaos.
That Skins Bills game was the first weekend of me living in the US. I was in the Fort Myers area where Sean Taylor was murdered a few days before (my first day there). I felt so bad for the Skins losing on a 15 yard penalty.
Wow, well hows the u.s been treating you lately
@@301MG I was only there for a year, was great though, the US is a great country, been back twice for vacations.
I remember this happened to the Saints. They were playing the chiefs while Sean Payton was suspended. I think they were trying to ice a kicker or something and there was a coaching miscommunication.
Dude you scared the hell out of me at the end of that video, don't do that.
The Bills/Redskins game was the first game after Sean Taylor died, where the Redskins started 10 men on defense because of his passing.
Talk about why you can’t fully stop while taking a penalty in soccer!
Jacob Kelly to make it more fair for the keeper. It allows them to know when the shot is coming and start moving before it happens. Otherwise it would be way to easy to score using trickery and waiting for the keeper to react.
Spencer I know why, I just want them to make a video about it.
I love this series!! I hardly even like sports but man this has me hooked!!
Who's here after Mike Zimmer called 2 timeouts in a row against the Cowboys?
Hello back :) thanks for the videos.
I’m a redskins fan and when I saw the title I KNEW they were gonna talk about Gibbs. Gotta love us
Ben Dross as a Bills fan I had a feeling some obscure penalty being called was gunna involve us
That game was actually the post Sean Taylor game so it kind of blows that they lost it that way
You guys need to do a episode of the Buffalo Bills ending the 17 yr playoff drought. So much had to happen on that New Years eve night. It would be such a great episode
I’m certain that has already been done! NFL TURNING POINT covered it. And there was an entire 30-minute documentary about it in the Buffalo area just days after the Bills Wild Card Game in Jacksonville. (It’s called PLAYOFF CALIBER. And you can find it on TH-cam). So unless these guys can find actual evidence of a conspiracy theory that no one has talked about, they would have infringed on the copyright © of TWO different television programs.
I remember that Redskins game with the Joe Gibbs coaching. Mind you this was Gibbs' second coming with the Skins. After winning two Super Bowl's, he took a bunch of years off and we began to collapse. Then he returned in all of his glory to save us (really he just needed the extra cash), only to make stupid mistakes like that for two years.
That was the game after Sean Taylor died. The skins ran a missing player formation. Sad stuff...
Thanks for explaining Wtf just happened 15 yrs ago when I questioned why a to was called
what I love, is this is like... the fun nerdy side of sports rules.
Imagine what ref was so embarrassed by how bad he was that he's punishing the team for his mistakes
NFL needs a rule where you can hire a crew of lawyers to review a rule to see if there's anyway to interpret the rule that's against the rules.
Lol anyone else notice the ho-oh? Love the pokemon reference guys!
I'm not sure if the same rule exists in the NCAA, but I saw a team get away with the double timeout a couple years ago. Texas double-iced a two-pt. attempt against West Virginia in 2018, and there was no call from the refs. West Virginia still ended up converting and winning the game.
Fun fact (its not actually Fun) that bills-Redskins game was the first game after the death of Sean Taylor, and the Redskins blew that game with that peaty.........
I was expecting a reference to the 2012 game where the 49ers got the refs to give them an extra time out against the Vikings. That one was crazy...
happened bills redskins in the game after sean taylors death went for a 50+ field goal they called consecutive timeouts i believe it was like a 10 yard penalty bc it was a much closer kick and bills won
You should do a cricket one. Ben stokes diving in the 2019 world Cup final and the ball hit his bat and goes for four but they get six runs. Incredible
Yo you straight scared me with Ed Hochuli, I had to double check just to be sure.
If i can clown a judge, then the judge does not deserve to be a judge.
No judge is perfect. Everyone makes mistakes and everyone is subject to mental heuristics. The refs are overseeing a lot of things, so it's not surprising to me that one might occasionally react using system 1 thought to approve a timeout which seems right on the surface. Carroll knows this and took advantage of the ref. It's pretty fundamentally crooked, if you think about it, and the fact that there are people who leverage heuristics that way, followed by the refs getting blamed, is a damning indictment of our society.
Roller Derby right now has a similar rules discussion going on.
If you try to call an Official Review or Timeout when you don't have any, or your jammer tries to call the jam off while they are not lead, there is no penalty. The rational being that it hasn't impacted the game.
If a referee grants your request, it has now impacted the game, so there is now a penalty.
A common conversation has become "should an incorrect attempt at any of these things be a penalty no matter what, so as to remove the officiating crew's ability to accidentally impact the game?"
I love these series
Who’s here after the buccaneers did this on Monday night
I was there for that Skins v Bills game... It was terrible and convinced me to never attend a Skins game again. Leave it to the skins to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. The sad thing is that even if they had won it would have been a "finally, glad that's over with" instead of a celebration.
Can we get some more videos in the Collapse series please? Maybe one on the early 2000s Yankees, who struggled to get back to the top after losing to the Marlins in the 2003 World Series. Or one on the Detroit Pistons who pretty much fell apart after losing to the Celtics in the 08 ECF. Or one on the 90s Cowboys, 49ers or Bills. All of those franchises fell on hard times after having long runs of dominance. There are so many videos you guys could do for that series. I think it’s a great idea for video series and I hope you guys make some more!
If you try to prank Duolingo, you lose your grandpa
There are fates worse than death. The Duolingo Bird will make sure of it
If Russ gets traded, you should do "Collapse: The 2013 Seahawks"
They should make it anyways they've collapsed.
@@rileyhaley3848 Yeah. R.I.P.
Riley Haley made the playoffs last season
@@sheraazkhan4334 wow what a successful year then im sure the patriots consider just making the playoffs a huge success lol.
Pretty sure the cowboys had a game where Jason Garrett tried to ice the kicker twice.
Shane Young he iced his own kicker and his kicker made the first but missed the second after the timeout and the cardinals would win the game in overtime
12 players on the field for the Seahawks? So the fans are now the 13th Man
Why are back to back timeouts even illegal to begin with? You only get three, it seems that the fact that you've burned through them that quickly is enough of a penalty.
"Successful deception of a match official" (diving) is a two-game suspension in the Premier League, yet nothing if the ref gets it right.
Sounds like it's the ref's fault, and HE should be suspended instead. Not sure if you meant that due to the way you worded your sentence. It's completely ambiguous.
I'm just looking for a Gary but it seems like there is no Gary. :-(
Maybe P.C. thought that he was still coaching in college, where they call consecutive time-outs to ice the kicker all the time.
John Harbaugh with the Ravens just got this penalty and in a pretty important spot with Buffalo on 4th and 2
I know I love it when the team ice their own kicker
Has there been/could there be an episode on the"Fair-catch kick?" Rule 11 Section 4 Article 3.
I'd love to know why that rule exists.
@@jliller Its a rule that was in Rugby, but was removed a long time ago. Australian rules football still has it though. This rule has been in the league since the start. Why does it still exist? With there being only 6 known successful attempts in NFL history, there just hasn't been a need to do anything with the rule. The last successful attempt was in 1976. Now if a team wins a Superbowl with this then it might be something that is brought up, but until then its just not a factor.
At one point, the high school version of the fair catch kick rule allowed a change in the decision if there was a foul that prevented the snap or kick
Hey, can you clarify something on this? I’ve heard that only a player or the head coach can call a time out. Is it true that if someone else, not eligible, tries to call a second time out and the refs fall for it, the team can’t be penalized?
Final score of that Skins-Bills game was actually 17-16 Bills. Not 18-17. That was the first game the Skins played after Sean Taylor’s death.
3:54 It also serves the purpose of punishing the team calling that second timeout on the penalty they tried to avoid using the timeout
Do a Weird Rules on the Sean Avery rule where it's now a penalty in the NHL to stand in front of the goalie and wave your arms around like an idiot.
This rule just leaves room for exploitation.
(using your example) if a kicker gets iced once and then the call comes in for another time out and the ref ignores it all is good, but if the ref KNOWS its against the rules and just wants to punish you they can "forget" about the rule and then 5 seconds later just say.. 'oh never mind 15 yard penalty'. Am I missing something here? I don't watch sports (find this channel just interesting for videos like this) but is it not common practice to get refs that just *know* the rules so stuff like this doesn't happen?