Fellow Stagg EKG VS Brewista Artisan VS Timemore Fish Kettles | A Comprehensive Comparative Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ค. 2024
- A three-way comparison of excellent cordless kettles for brewing pour over coffee. Reviewed by Kayo Cosio.
00:00 Intro
00:21 Disclosures - Timemore was sent to us. We did not buy it.
01:27 Our Review Structure - what to expect.
02:05 Neck and Nozzle Shapes
04:58 Prices and Build Quality
05:29 Handle Shape, Quality, and Control.
06:30 Capacity - do they hold the volume advertised?
08:22 User Interface of the Kettle Bases
13:15 Flow Control Test - literally 3 minutes of water pouring from the kettle as slowly as possible.
17:25 My Shoulder Clicks - from pouring for 9 minutes straight.
17:30 Flow Control Test Results - Stagg EKG
18:47 Flow Control Test Results - Brewista Artisan
20:03 Flow Control Test Results - Timemore
22:42 Boiling Speed Test
24:00 Pros and Cons - Timemore
26:45 Pros and Cons - Brewista Artisan
29:37 Pros and Cons - Stagg EKG
29:58 Picking a winner! For Home? For Cafe? Overall?
31:17 Outro
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Finally someone covering these three and in such detail! Thank you SO much for this video!
Glad it was helpful! hopefully we can make an updated one with new kettles next year.
Wow. Such a thorough review. I couldn’t ask for more.
Superb.
glad to help! thank you for watching. 🙏🙏🙏
@@HoneycombManila you really did help me A LOT.
Now I got the Timemore Kettles. Its price in Thailand is super cheap also.
Nice vid. This is really helpful 😁
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching.
Great review!!
glad it helped! thanks for watching
Hi @HoneycombManila!
If you were to chose between Brewista and Hario Buono (both last versions), which one would you choose?
Also, is the shape of the gooseneck spout very important? Is it technically better to have it placed over the dripper, very close to the coffee, which you can do with Brewista or Hario, but not with Stagg ? Is it more than an appealing feeling when pouring this way ? I can think of unwanted agitation, but I am curious what you think.
Thanks!
Thanks for your thorough review! If you could have the equivalent Bonavita, would you prefer it over the Brewista?
No. I have never liked the bona vita handle. In general, the flow is too fast on the bona vita. That does make them great for cupping, but not for meticulous pour overs.
Excellent review ⚡
🙏🙏🙏
Great review! Would've been interesting to see how close the claimed temp is to actual temp. Thanks again!
it's super close. didn't show on camera, but we compared it to using a Hershey's Instant Read thermometer and a baking probe. they're all accurate to .3 °C.
@@HoneycombManila That's great! Really appreciate the update!
Love the detailed review and comparison between the kettles, great content that focuses on actual performance!
I have the Timemore and quite happy with it, but it is the larger version at 750ml and 1500w. Since the Stagg is 1200w, the larger timemore would potentially beat that to heating time. It is more expensive though at close to 8k.
My one gripe is the Max/Min line is quite faint and it’s right behind the handle, so it’s awkward to pour water while the handle is facing you be away. Watching your vid, it looks like all kettles place their max/min line there...
Actually, the Stagg EKG in 220v (the version used in the test) is marked as 1000w only. It is that's one of the things that surprised me with the speed test. They all have the same wattage, so what we're essentially testing is the design of the heating element and how efficiently energy is transferred to the water. And how heat is retained by the kettle during the boil, I suppose.
Glad you enjoyed! Please do subscribe and tell a friend 🙏🙏
FINALLY a pinoy decent/great reviewer regarding coffee stuff
Thanks for the kind words. Hope to do more in 2024!
Excellent reviews, you assured me to get the Fellow as I am thinking about that Fish. Thanks you for your review. By the way SUS304 on the kettle symbolise the kettle is made of stainless steel grade 304 type.
awesome. Thanks for this, I'm not familiar with this grading system as I am with the other shimmer:hardness rating system.
Isn’t the brewista the only one of the 3 that is programmable to turn on at certain time? That’s the big feature I want so I can wake up to hot water. Any others out there have this feature? Thanks for the awesome review!
I'll look into it, but I think that's a different model, the one with the "A" button on the base used to set that wake up time.
Hi I’m just wondering what the glass jug is in the background 🥰
that's just water used for the different tests we did in the video. it's a 2.5 L bottle and a Kalita Jug 400 coffee server
The best video I watched about kettle review. I have one question. Have you ever tried to recheck the temperature after the temperature reach the goal? I've tried many time and it showed that timemore has inaccurate temperature.
Waiting for the review.. ^^
I haven't. I usually brew with a temperature probe in the kettle, and trust that reading
Great in-depth review. I appreciate it. I have a Bonavita and looking to upgrade soon. I was torn between the Timemore and Stagg. But glad you did the Brewista, too. Same with you I’ve never paid much attention to the Brewista because the logo fonts throws everything off. Maybe it’ll be something I look into now. Also the 304 is just the type of stainless steel it uses.
Glad it was helpful! If it's a choice between those two, I'd go with the stagg for build quality.
brewista has a new logo in their kettles now and it's in lazada already!
Thank you for your comprehensive review! This is the first video I watched and I don't need to watch anything more.
I agree, Brewista typeface is horrible (an eyesore), will not be purchasing that. I'm torn between Time More and Stagg. :)
Can I make a cup of tee quickly with this? I want EKG class quality but no need for a goose neck
yes, go for it. but there's a version that is not goose neck too, also made by Fellow. The benefit is faster pouring and realistically? more durability. goose necks can be fragile.
Fellow $170 and brewista $195 which one would you choose, i really enjoyed the video,
Greetings from Poland
if it's so close, I'd probably choose the fellow
Great comparison.
I like the look of the Stagg EKG, but the full speed pour kills it for me, 50s to pour 900ml is way too slow, I'd have to keep a standard kettle on the bench with it. The Brewista can go just as slow but also pours at a decent speed which I could live with day to day, why can't it just have a better base/interface.
Interesting that you want more speed. I must admit that I've over tilted the EKG on several occasions and had water come out the top. If you want speed, get that Hario Buono! I think they took the gooseneck from a storm drain 🤣🤣🤣
Me the same, got the EKG and loved it in all details but not of the reason I returned it because of the super slow water flow 🙄 trying to go for just a little more speed, water is coming out of the top 🙄🤦🏻♂️
Do you know if the below 100ml water control issue on the Timemore is the same on the 800ml version of the kettle?
I did not! But it's also highly unadvisable to ever boil a kettle that isn't at least half full.
I own a one-litre version of Brewista.
There are a couple of disadvantages that I can mention: you can't easily have a slow flow when the kettle is complete and it's difficult to control it with one hand. But once you learn how to hold it and how much water to put in to have the best flow, it becomes brilliant.
Also, it pisses me off that I have to press that heat button every time I take it off the base.
The detachable power cable is actually a plus. You can buy a hooked C13 cable in white colour that's gonna match your base.
great info. thanks
Does the Timemore do have a stove top type kettle?
I believe so, but we have not tested them
Hello Kayo Cosio!!!! Would just like to ask if may update as performance ng three kettles? Been confused between the artisan and the stagg and I just want to know your thoughts
thanks for asking. I still stand by the review. I used all 3 for at least 3 months before reviewing them in this video. The artisan has a better stream and control, you just have to get past the way it looks and the clunky button user interface
@@HoneycombManila TBH, I was also sold to the artisan at first because of how versatile and nice it is to pour. However I dug a bit deep on the quality and durability of the item and I saw quite a few reddit posts that says the brewista has some QC issues. That is when I started to have second thoughts
Hi. Love the video. It helps so much.
I want to ask wether you can advice me on brewista 4th gen with the previous one?
Is it really worthed to buy the 4th gen? Since it is more expensive.
I'm trying to find details on the V4 and it looks to be pretty much the same. I might be wrong, but that's the best information I can find online.
@@HoneycombManila thanks for the reply. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I just moved to manila, may I know where is the link or shop to buy coffee equipment like this?
El Kapitan in San Juan is a good place to start, or look up Timemore Philippines on shopee
How much water did you boil in the "Boil Speed Test". That's the last bit of information I need to be able to calculate the resulting power being put into the water.
great question! I went back to check the original footage, and we used 500ml for the test. Your speed in your locality may be slightly different based on room temperature, elevation, barometric pressure, humidity, etc. But if you boil them side by side, you should get similar results.
@@HoneycombManila thank you for the efforts you went through, to answer this :) Interesting: I get Fellow Stag @ 1355W, Brewiste 0.6L @ 1098W, Timemore 1016 W.
Very detailed review on different aspects of their functionality and performance. Thank you for your efforts. Hope your shoulders are fine after all that pouring.
I really like the Timemore. I believe that the 800L one would’ve impressed much more. This 600L you tested was the biggest cause for lower metrics compared to others.
I hear what you’re saying about the comfort of the Brewista but it’s so fat and wide. It doesn’t inspire me that much. Maybe I’d like it better in black? I don’t know really. For some reason the EKG doesn’t inspire me much either. I prefer the Paris-Rhône kettle, which is almost identical but has improvements over the EKG. Cheaper too and nice company behind it.
for the home, I really like the 600 size. Over the years ive realized that the need for more than 600 is quite rare for most people
Just got the Brewista. 100% agree with your review of the panel. I’ll add that the manual is poorly written in explaining the functions of the buttons; have to keep referring to it.
yeah, I actually make a point of not reading the manual and try to figure out the UI first, then read the manual for clarification. If a UI requires a manual, it's simply not intuitive.
I bought the Stag mostly because of the footprint size. I have very limited counter space and it fits nicely with what I have. Great vid. Thanks for the review!
Thanks for sharing! Footprint-wise, the Timemore is tiny too.
How would they compare to Oxo brew
sorry, haven't been able to get my hands on one of those yet.
I don't know which one to buy for the funnel. brevista or fellow. I want it to be long lived.
both have been serving us well for 2-4 years.
Manual grinder comparison soon:))
Hopefully. We do have the C2 in the lab and we did this Driver Grinder review before: th-cam.com/video/eNpW5ttKwQ0/w-d-xo.html
Wish the Stagg allowed for a faster flow. I opted for an Artisan because it works well both for cooking and brewing coffee. If I had a bigger home maybe I'd have 2 separate kettles.
Makes sense. Induction stoves are excellent for boiling water for cooking
@@HoneycombManila the other expensive option in the US is to buy a Fellow Corvo and also a replacement Stagg Kettle without the base.
Hey man. Great job. I too agree with your issue about the logo. Man, it really bugs me. If i’ve bought the thing I don’t need to see the name so prominently displayed all of the time. I know what I bought. It’s ugly and not classy. I don’t know if they still make the ones with the fake wood grain on the bottom and stuff. Man, did that bug me too! :). Ugly. It has to be tough for you to concede that it’s your go to kettle when the company lacks style and common sense about details like that. You’re very fair in your review, though. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! making coffee is such a sensory experience, but it's not just about flavor. Taste is universal!
Thx s a lot for video
Beginning home use i choose time more when i think open cafe maybe i choose ekg but finally i luv brewista because my hand and water we are one😆
Good choice! That control aspect does make up for the problems, poor interface and visual design.
for the price i think the timemore ain’t bad. similar to what u said for stagg, don’t think you’ll reach 100ml esp for home use. and the temp is similar to the other two despite the plastic built.
it's actually not any more plastic than the other 2, especially the Stagg, which has a totally plastic base. It's the implementation of the plastic that makes it look and feel so cheap.
The concern with volume has to do with the spout placement and engineering. You run out of control too easily when the volume is low.
The flow control test is not a correct comparison. Cold water has a higher surface tension than hot water, so getting a long water stream with freshly boiled water is much harder than with cold water. My Hario Buono has almost 40cm with cold water and maybe 10-12cm with hot water. I‘d love to see a comparison with hot water
Great feedback. Our experience is that the hot to cold water variance in surface tension across kettles is linear and the results are identical. In other words, yes the level of control is different, but they are consistently different across temperatures and kettles
@@HoneycombManila maybe you can make a video with Brewista, Hario and Fellow. My experience is, that the water stream breaks approx. 60% earlier than the shown results in this video. Will it make worse coffee? No, but it’s a less good experience, as I would expect with the shown examples with cold water. I tried this at home with Hario, Brewista, Tchibo, KitchenAid and TimeMore. Hario is still the best, but breaks much earlier and there’s not a huge difference from the other kettles
Stagg and Timemore's prices here in Canada are about the same
Thanks for the info.
Anyone who owned the timemore kettle? Is it reliable? I don't want to buy then it breaks later on..
yeah, my wife has been using it daily for almost 6 months now and it's been totally reliable. Not sure about beyond that, as we've only had the product for so long.
In that case don't google or search reddit for problems with the Fellow kettle...
@@PtWhiteBelt HAHA too many disappointed Home barista who bought fellow and brewista kettle
Nice video but at 7:10 "We have 880/881ml pretty close as advertised". Actually you have 900ml that weights 880g. The conversion 1:1 between ml and g almost never works. ml is for volumetric measurements the volume of water changes with temperature so when you have PURE water and it's exactly at 4C or 39.2F, 900ml of water weight just 900g, otherwise the 1:1 conversion doesn't work.
Yes, that's true. For coffee, it's usually a question of ratio though, so we really never use volumetric measurements due to that issue of them being terribly unreliable. Basically, we're saying ml, but what we mean is grams. It's stupid, but it's how it is I suppose. So in essence, we don't really care about the volumetric capacity of the kettle, we care about the weight, since all future brewing measurements will be done in weight anyway.
SS 304 means 304 stainless steel.
thanks!
@@HoneycombManila it's the same alloy the current SpaceX Starship 20 and Booster 3 are made of
So the brewista's flow control slightly edges EKG despite perceived brewista's subtle aesthetic flaw 😂😂
Exactly. At the end of the day, you buy the kettle that inspires you, and the EKG does that. But the brewista has flow performance that's significantly better. I cannot imagine why people would want a flow restrictor for this thing!
Totally agree: that logo is tacky.
It's such a barrier for me.
Look of the timemore is the same as the EKG, almost a carbon copy.
😂😂😂
@@HoneycombManila you don't think they copies from EKG.
well... they're both black.