Thomas Sowell vs Trevor Noah | Slavery & Reparations
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Thomas Sowell vs Trevor Noah | Slavery & Reparations
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Here it is in an easily copy-pastable form: "How do you make something of yourself as an African-American in America today? The way anybody else would. You equip yourself with skills that people are willing to pay for." - Thomas Sowell
Amen
@@jasondavis9639 When you resort to name calling, you admit that you have lost the argument.
@@jasondavis9639 so when do black people start paying their reperations?
@@jasondavis9639 So when do I get my reparations for people stealing my land and continuing to occupy it? Maybe every citizen in America that’s not an Native American should pay the Native American rent for occupying the land that we had before you? I don’t know why we can’t all just put the past in the past because obviously Trevor Noah is a wealthy black man that did what Thomas was talking about in that quote you called it white supremacy? I think Black people want to be superior over white people and that in its self is racist.
@@raifthemad when they can’t argue their point that’s the only arrow in their quiver left. That’s what fascist did they shut down people that tried to tell the truth.
The big difference here is Trevor Noah is preaching a loser's way of thinking (and he's a millionaire). Thomas Sowell is preaching a winner's way of thinking.
Yeah, & he wants to stay there!!
Well let's be honest Trevor Noah would not debate Thomas sowel cause of his intellectual disadvantage to Thomas sowel
The big difference is Thomas Sowell is harvard graduate with multiple PHDs and Trevor noah is a comedian with only a high school degree from a south african private school. Which one do you think is better informed? Thomas Sowell experienced the civil rights movements. Trevor noah didnt come to america until after obamas first term.
It is quite disingenuous of Trevor Noah to compare the least of contemporary white suffering with the worse of historical black suffering as case for how injustices/crimes have weight.
It is the old apples and oranges and selective morality arguments the left always make.
If you want to compare the suffering of black slaves in the America with historical white suffering then compare with historical white slaves in the Middle East, or million dead whites who died fighting against slavery and tyranny or the lives of the worse off white people of the time, like for like.
And we should always remember that slaves brought back from Africa were almost entirely already slaves and enslaved and then sold by other Africans!
None of this even gets into the fact contemporary blacks who want the reparations have never been slaves nor the people who would be forced to pay never been slave owners and of course if that precedent were set then where would it end and why would it be limited to slavery and not any other historical injustice faced by a a people or nation and who makes the rules?
@@jasondavis9639 bahahaha your such a fool
The fact that modern slavery never gets talked about by people like Trevor Noah should inform you just how disingenuous they are about the evil of slavery.
Agreed, completely!
Lebron James and Michael Jordan both descend from slaves but have no problem making millions off the sale of sneakers and equipment made by slave labor in China.
Hate slavery? Don't buy natural diamonds.
What's disingenuous is
that america literally
made the plantation nationwide and is now calling that "freedom and liberty" 😂
2022 america is not 1922 america folks, let's face it, we lost...
@@blitzkriegdesign Or chocolate. I doubt it's changed much since a decade ago, when about 60% of coco came from plantations filled with slaves, often child slaves.
Thomas Sowell, doing more for African-Americans than all the race hustlers out there and making the world a better place. It is so uplifting to listen to him.
Not one member of my family was in this country prior to 1950. Before that they were in Russian work camps following WWII in Eastern Europe because they were a part of an ethnic German minority living in Eastern Europe. They had to escape the camps where my grandmother told me her job was to wheelbarrow the dead bodies to the mass grave. They escaped and made their way to America with nothing in their pockets. My Grandfather died 2 years ago leaving behind a legacy of a successful business owner and staple of the German American community in our area. He died very wealthy. Not because anything was given to him, because him and his partners worked for free at their business while holding 2nd and 3rd jobs at the same time. What they went through is sometimes reffered to as the forgotten genocide. It's forgotten because they never wanted to talk about it. They left it behind and built a new life in America without looking back. It's hard for me to accept the idea that I have to pay someone back for something my family wasn't here for especially considering members of my family were in forced servitude up until 1949. Everyone's past has suffering. The way to move out of suffering is through hard work to better your family for generations to come.
Well said.
Very well said. Here is a quote I read that fits some of your points: "I have no reason to feel guilty of a crime I've not committed and I do not give money to petulant children who make false accusations."
My friend's grandfather was in Vorkuta for fifteen years. Lucky he made it out alive. He was an Austrian diplomat during the war so he was close enough to German for the Russians to lock him up.
Amen. Great points
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Thomas Sowell, drops knowledge and wisdom for the soul. Bars.
Thomas Sowell would beat Trevor Noah in a debate in his sleep.
If the US where to pay reparations for slavery, they own a lot of money to Yazidi women in Syria, who where enslaved by ISIS, a group that thrived in US mistake in Iraq. But I guess they don't matter to BLM or groups like that.
Thomas Sowell is a tool of white supremacy.
Amen 🙂1️⃣0️⃣0️⃣ truth ‼
@@anthonynewsome7094 i didn't know the white supremacists had a monopoly on facts, but, if you say so. 🤦
I'm a 60 y/o Latin man. I was raised by a father that relished turmoil in our house. There was never peace in our house. By the age of 16, I started committing high level crimes just to try to gather enough money to get out of the house. Did some pretty bad things. I tried to go to college but never finished . My life had many ups and downs, never learned good coping skills. Anyway, my point regardless of skin, if you don't grow up in a good environment , it's difficult to succeed. and blaming others is the easy way out.
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@CatInTheBox I agree! I’ve experienced a lot of the same things. And I’m a 45 year old white man.
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I can never get enough of Thomas Sowell. He NEEDS to be required reading in every school across America. We need his voice to be heard. He is an erudite, genuine, and fair voice in a panorama of one-sided bullhorns that placate to the 'feels' in order to boost votes.
Nah, he's a black man who says things white folks want to hear. Not particularly erudite, certainly not genuine. He's doing well for himself though, that's for sure.
@@JaymoJoints that's a rather pessimistic view on his writings. What would benefit your position more would be to substantiate it, I don't think you can. He's been a contrarian for over half a century and hasn't received too much love for it. If he says what white people want to hear, you're right in that white people, as well as all other races, appreciate the truth.
@@JaymoJoints Nah, my family (Filipinos) immigrated to the US in 97 and doing better than most Black folks now. They're holding themselves back and blaming their unproductiveness on other people is all it is.
@@poloshirtsamurai So your stance is that black people are holding themselves back? In what ways? Please elaborate so you don't seem to be making a racist statement based off of stereotypes immigrants are taught about Black people.
This is in the spirit of genuine concern and not an attack.
@@jdw393 if he is the only voice of opposition, that doesn't make him a truth teller. Please, tell me what economy based stances he has to support his historical analysis and economic plans?
One is a stand up comedian, literally a court jester. The other, one of the greatest intellects of all time. Comparing them at all is an insult to reason.
Very good point- Jordan Peterson would rip Trevor's arguments to shreds
Very true but totally necessary
Not necessarily. Opinions are capable of surprising and surpassing one's expectations and position. I agree with you, in terms of character, but be wary of dehumanizing your opposition. You may just blind yourself to similar tendencies. Happy travels ✌️❤️🙏
Don't worship people. Sowell is a smart dude. There are lots of smart dudes.
So, you're saying that unless someone is an intellectual they have no right to an opinion? Hmmmmm.... I wonder what. Mr. Sowell would say to that?
I'm not paying for anything that had nothing to do with me, nor should anyone be paid for anything that did not occur to them. Period. Thank you good sir for being an honest, open minded, critical, reasonable and fair thinker.
The reality of the reparations movement is that it helps the middle-men who will control the transfer. Who the wealth will be taken from, and who it will be given to, is not the real question. The real question is who will be taking the wealth and then giving it, and what assurance and accountability exists to make sure all the wealth that was taken has immediately been given with no delay. Even if 100% is transferred, if there is a 1-year delay in the transfer when there is 10% real annual inflation, and wealth is measured in dollars, and say the reparations is a total of $1 trillion that's like $50 billion of added spending power for the middle-man just by holding the cash for a year during the transfer. But of course there is no accountability to make sure the money taken will be given. What are you going to do, sue them?
Reparations is just a way to stoke up the race-baiting shite. All it would do is make people dislike black people for getting free shit that they are not. You will never get equality by treating one group different.
So reparation we’ve given to Jews,natives,and Japanese, but when it comes to Black people getting reparations it’s a problem.
@@teeraaskew9274 Say you were caught speeding and you get fined $100. So you pay the $100, but then a year later you get a new fine for $200 for the same speeding ticket because the police reviewed their history and decided only paying $100 was not enough. So you pay the $200, but then a year later you get another fine for the same ticket because $300 was not enough and certainly if you are still wealthy after paying the first two fines you should be paying another fine. This is the story of reparations. Ask any Japanese-American, was $20,000 enough compensation for the internment camps? Ask the native tribes, was their reservation enough compensation for the genocide?
360,000 young Americans died in war to free Black Americans from slavery. That's about a 1:1 life given fighting for every slave shipped to North America from Africa; only about 388,000 slaves were ever brought to the US because it was borderline illegal to import slaves since the beginning. Of course it's not enough that the US abolished slavery, outlawed it globally, gave their own blood to free those slaves that were brought here illegally or during the first few hundred years when our new-born government was too weak to enforce anti-slavery laws. It's not enough that Black Americans have more and better opportunities in the US, and live in better conditions, and receive preferential treatment in every category by the government to make up for past wrongs. The simple fact is that the US is rich and therefore it has to pay more; that's the thinking and that's why there's no point in even having this conversation.
Shouldn't even be a conversation on it. IF they could prove they were ancestors of slaves in America, IF they could prove who is the ancestors of slaves owners, why should all American tax payers be expected to help pay for it. Why would they not be asking the people from the country that sold them into slavery to pay them? If they did it in a logical way , they would expect some of their own ancestors to pay them too. They know better than to do that though because the country's they originated from would laugh at them.
Honestly, I've never heard of Jewish reparations. They could make a case as good as anyone for being oppressed, but their culture puts an emphasis on hard work, overcoming adversity and having good morals. Any society that pushes those beliefs will be successful.
Reparations were sent to Israel by Germany as long as actual victims of the Nazis were still alive.
@@sanniepstein4835 interesting. A direct line from criminal to victim. Makes sense. Is that the reason for their success? Doubt it.
Yeah im not sure what hes talking about with jewish reparations. Almost all the jewish people Ive met, their success comes from a strong cultural values of education. Theres a lot of anti semitic rumors in the black community. There might be one going around saying the govts give them free money and withhold it from other minorities?
They also have a culture of racial favouritism and help each other out at others expense.
@@Muckylittleme so they do what every other culture and race does
You asked us for our comments, and what we/I thought of this video. Firstly, huge kudos to you for bringing Thomas Sowell to a new audience. Not everyone has heard of him, but I regard him as one of the greatest Americans living today, as do many of the other people leaving comments on your channel. So if you bring this man to a new audience who have never heard of him, then you are providing a great service.
Thomas Sowell is an absolute American treasure. His work continues to inspire me.
Here we have a fearless,erudite,articulate,highly-intelligent American and look what's in the WH ? Thomas could have stood as an 'independent' and swept the board and we'd have a REAL President.
@@busking6292 hahahahahahahaha! You think Uncle Thomas would’ve stood a chance!?!? Hahahahaha, the right is so fucking delusional. 😂😂😂
@@zaphodbebop105 yeah black people look at someone intelligent and articulate and see "YOU ACTIN WHITE!!!"
Therefore would never vote for him.
Instead you voted in a guy who wanted to resegregate schools in the 70s because you're just so undelusional
@@kane357lynch well no, they look a Uncle Thomas here espousing bull crap about black people not wanting equal rights and think “daaaamn, this guys is stupid as hell!” Hahaha
Agreed whole heartedly...check out Dr Walter Williams ( fellow economist and thinker , Sowells friend who also has a similar story who also " does not suffer fools lightly"...we are losing these brilliant men from tht generation each day
My wife is a fifth grade teacher and she has always, for 26 years, explained that the brain is the same color for everyone. The important part of this is that what you store there is yours forever and gives you incredible power. No one can take it away from you and you can use it to do remarkable things.
Amen
❤I am a retired 5th grade teacher, and only taught at, at risked schools! Your wife is right! Same with poverty! You can be from poverty, and be brilliant! Look at Dr Ben Carson!
Wise woman!!
Yo I literally sat through this whole thing even though I can't stand Trevor Noah... but I still don't believe I'm a victim and have been much better off since walking away from the left
Trevor Noah is one of the race hustlers Thomas Sowell warns us about. T. Noah is in it to stir up anger.
Same here! 🥰👵🏽👋🏾
@@jasondavis9639- Sadly found this video that you posted very divisive!
I don’t like him neither, but I can’t deny his observations are felt by many, if misguided. At a certain point the pursuit of perfect is to the detriment of good.
Trevor Noah is from south Africa and just came over here. He's just doing as his handlers say so he can stay on TV.
He has no ties to America whatsoever except using the captialist system to make millions of dollars. He is literally why there are people fighting to get here, for the American dream but wants to talk like he's from "black America" while enjoying all the benefits of America
As Mr. So well says. As an American Mexican, and growing up in a poor family. My parents always told us to study graduate an opportunity they did not have due to the depression or their parents taking them out of school. We all graduated, two of us went into the military and retired. The others found jobs they love and have been able to sustain their families. Mexican were also treated differently, and my parents experienced that too. That did not stop them from doing what it took to raise a family. It is the responsibility of the individual to make what they want out of themselves.
The "lynching bill" isn't to make lynching illegal, it makes lynching a federal hate crime. You said the voting was 50/50 but actually the vote in the house was 422-3. 3 people voted against the bill.
Lol dam bro. You ain't had to him like that
@@bricehatcher8391 huh? Lol
This is a perfect example of the misinformation Van is inundated with. One can clearly see how deep the brainwashing has been. Kudos to him for opening the door to opposing views. Hopefully logic ultimately prevails.
@@johnboyd7983 I agree completely, and Van has quickly become one of my favorite channels to watch, not because he is listening to conservatives speak, but because he is finding things out on his own. Not because somebody told him he needs to think a certain way, or be a certain way, or do a certain thing, but because he wants to see if he can better himself. That’s exactly what this life is about, and that is exactly why Van going to be extremely successful in the long run, both in spite of, and despite all the pushback he is getting, and will get.
I hope Van sees this. Good comment.
"Equip yourself with skills people are willing to pay for", Thomas Sowell
That was just such great advice for anyone. Wish I would have gotten advice like that when I was younger.
That's such a blanket statement that needs to be unpacked to really examine it's validity. The basic assumption is that the playing field is flat. Is it? Think about it for a moment, who are the people "willing to pay for"? Let's start from here...
@@Katebebe1 educated people that know how to carry themselves. Have you ever hired anyone? Are you self employed or a business owner? If not how are you qualified to unpack that answer?
@@imagex8000 Yes, I am all that you have listed. However, I am not the subject here. Rather, Thomas is. The beauty of intellectualism is that all one puts out is subject to close scrutiny. That is all I am asking us to do.
@@Katebebe1 when you ask "Who are the people they are hiring". Thats a blanket racist statement without any context on position or qualifications. Bringing that victim mentality back into a powerful quote tells me a lot about you. An owner of any kind of successful business is not one of them.
Thomas Sowell is one of the most intelligent people out there discussing these things. I enjoy when people are open minded and are willing to educate themselves on things that they care about. Thank you for letting me be a part of that journey .
Ben Shapiro is as well, sometimes he comes off a little snug.. Thomas Sowell is calm composed in contrast to Ben.. Plus he was in the Jim Crow era..
@@jasondavis9639 ben is an active jewish believer, how can he be white supremacist. They hate jews more then blacks. You need to educate yourself.
@@jasondavis9639 .
WOW!
Anyone that believes a JEWISH man
is really an American neo-Nazi is just...
DUMBER THAN A BAG OF HAMMERS!
@@jasondavis9639 is that why he received the most hate mail out of anyone in the country from white supremacists one year? Just curious is he just really bad at it?
@@jasondavis9639 I didn't say he wasn't White I said he didn't agree with white supremacists as you can tell by the all the hate he gets from them.
As a 87 year old little ol' granny , I happened on your channel and am loving listening to the people you put on as well as your comments. I think it is commendable that you are trying to educate yourself. I think you are very smart, insightful, and kind and look forward to watching your journey.
Thomas Sowell is wrong, in denial, or stupid. These elite, well-educated, slave-owning, God-fearing "Founding Father" White men made "the rules" and defined all exceptions to "the rules," and it was not "self-evident" that all people are created equal, or they would have said so. As validated by the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution, these men knew the value of words, and how to carefully craft sentences, paragraphs, and documents. Evidence of their intent to sustain their "privilege" is validated by the absence of any timetable to establish that "all people are created equal." Keep in mind, these elite, well-educated, slave-owning, God-fearing "Founding Father" White men had no problem executing contracts or agreements between themselves, or Native Americans, and with France, Spain, etc. Or, are supposed to believe these elite, well-educated, slave-owning, God-fearing "Founding Father" White men, who used the same colonization tactics as their British peers, were not as smart as Chinese men who established, with Britain, a 99-year (timetable) lease for Hong Kong in 1898?
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I will always say, Thomas Sowell is an American treasure!!!! I’m of Mexican heritage, I encourage my children to read his books or at least watch his videos.
Thomas Sowell is wrong, in denial, or stupid. These elite, well-educated, slave-owning, God-fearing "Founding Father" White men made "the rules" and defined all exceptions to "the rules," and it was not "self-evident" that all people are created equal, or they would have said so. As validated by the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution, these men knew the value of words, and how to carefully craft sentences, paragraphs, and documents. Evidence of their intent to sustain their "privilege" is validated by the absence of any timetable to establish that "all people are created equal." Keep in mind, these elite, well-educated, slave-owning, God-fearing "Founding Father" White men had no problem executing contracts or agreements between themselves, or Native Americans, and with France, Spain, etc. Or, are supposed to believe these elite, well-educated, slave-owning, God-fearing "Founding Father" White men, who used the same colonization tactics as their British peers, were not as smart as Chinese men who established, with Britain, a 99-year (timetable) lease for Hong Kong in 1898?
Thomas Sowell is not a real economist. He is simply a mouthpiece for white supremacy. This guy did not oppose reparations for Jewish people, Japanese Americans, or Native Americans. That is not being fair, that is having a double standard.
By the way, I just wanted to say one more time that I am so encouraged by you watching these videos and taking the time to investigate new ideas for yourself. This is one of the most respectable things that I have seen in many years. Don't let anyone discourage you from this journey
Lynching has always been illegal. It's the special designation of "hate crime" that is being argued over.
And the fact that it would be a federal crime
You begin by stating that Thomas Sowell is 'fair'. My utmost respect to you, sir. My short list of heroes begins with my Dad, and can be counted on one hand. Thomas Sowell is tied for second. Thank you.
My forefathers didn't move to the US from Norway until the 1890's . I am considered lower middle class and I owe nothing for reparations
Mine moved to Pennsylvania from south west Germany. In 1703 we never had slaves 10 percent of us are now amish. We fought for the union in the civil war. We fought in ww1, ww2, and pretty much supply the army now. The only slaves we had in PA were irish who built the the Erie Canal. Can we give them some money because they are mostly poor still.
Thomas Sowell, and pretty much anyone from his generation, is an incredibly important figure in our history. Some people agree with his perspective, others don’t but he lived through and found success when American society was much more toxic for black Americans. Thomas Sowell ,for me, is someone who speaks from experience and uses reason to make sense of the world around us.
The "anti lynching" bill is a "feel good" bill. Lynching as any other form of murder was already a crime in all 50 states. Congress passes these type bills just to play to certain segments of the electorate, depending on what they think will get them the most votes.
Which is why there were some who voted against the bill. They felt it was just for optics since lynching has been illegal for years....since the fall of the Jim Crow era anyway.
Does lynching still occur? It shouldn't, but probably does. And the perpetrators should be crucified....literally. But it's not so prevalent that Congress needs waste time drafting, debating, passing a bill to make it illegal....again.
@@pneeb419 If a black person was lynched in the United States it would be all over the news. Nobody is getting lynched. A black person faked a hate crime and they decided to try and pass this bill to push a narrative.
@@sanguiniusthegreatangel6834 Jussie Smolett?
@@RS-fy9hb It was a hoax... he's been found guilty of staging it.... th-cam.com/video/C8vtTN720Ys/w-d-xo.html
I was going to post the exact same thing. You definitely have to look beyond the name of the bill. Both parties are notorious for creating bills with controversial names with the sole intention of being able to say that the other party wouldn't vote for it so they are racist, sexist...you name it. Several years ago there was a similar bill called "Equal Pay for Equal Work" (name may not be exact and this IS NOT the 1963 Act - it was in the last 10 years), which was BS. This was already passed in 1963. It was just another political ploy to say that (in this case) "this Republican didn't vote for the Equal Pay Act" which made it illegal to pay women less for the same work, when in fact this bill did not do that at all.
The problem with reparations is that people who have never been slaves, and some of whose families were never slaves, are demanding reparations from people who not only did not own slaves, but their families never did.
Also reparations expect people who never owned slaves to be punishes for it.
Have you been a slave more then anybody else walking around now? Nobody really knows who were slaves or owners... your forfathers could have bin.... again slavery has nothing to do with race
@@-miekeb- It's designed to keep race and slavery into the minds of the youth. Create a divide between races and create a victim mindset for blacks. If they feel like victims, then they're still slaves in our modern era. Whether black people want to believe it or not, we've all been getting screwed by the little hats. They have been enslaving all of us with the money they print and the control through inflation, interest rates, commodities, and /stocks/bonds. The plantations were owned by the 👃 and slave ships were owned by them as well, but as long as white people are the scapegoat, the little hats will be free and will pay money to BLM to make sure young black kids are told that white people are the oppressors and use buzzwords to shut down any educational argument to debate the brainwashing they're being taught in school.
Why did the indians or the Jews get reparations???
Stop playing crazy like you know your owe reparation free labor for 400 years and your own all the land and the money black people don't own nothing yall stole all the land
Alright bro, Thomas Sowell is an intellectual. He has done his research and argues based on facts. Trevor Noah is a late night host. He is given scripts to read, he doesn’t deal in facts he deals in ideology and there is a huge difference.
Of course there’s a big difference. However, more people are influenced by Trevor Noah because they don’t know about the difference. Let them see for themselves and compare
That was my first take on this video too. Those two shouldn't even be in the same conversation. But then I'm like "hey if he's truly following up on his research and truly listening to the points that Sowell makes AND confirming them himself with the data" then this is probably one life saved. Who knows though. Finding the real data and evidence is getting so hard now with the corruption of the MSM and facebook/twitter/etc becoming the ministries of truth.
But he thinks he knows
@@Kunfucious577 my eyes are opened thanks to yall in the comments
I don't like Trevor Noah but don't dismiss and arguement based on the messenger. Good ideas will overcome fallable messengers but bad ideas cannot easily be aided by the best messengers.
Dude. I've been watching you for four days now. I can honestly tell you that I believe people are coming for the conflict and leaving more open-minded people. You are doing God's work here, man. Keep it up, please.
The Irish slaves were slaves, though in the US they where called indentured servants the were still bought after they were captured by Cornwell against there will. They had to work for twenty years,then were supposed to be released with a small amount of money to start a new life. But because of that they were commonly killed near the end of there service to avoid having to be payed upon release. So it was common for them to be treated worse than there black counter parts, because the blacks were considered property. In there eyes damaged "property" couldn't be sold. Where as the Irish where more commonly beaten to death, because they they couldn't be sold and if servitude was completed it actually cost money for there owner.
Irish people were not slaves that is a myth
@Kay Lavender - Thanks for that useless comment where you provide zero evidence or rationale to back up that trite & lazy response. You’re right up there with holocaust deniers. They really should have an IQ requirement here to allow someone to post a comment.
How about the Barbary slave trade or the Roman occupation of the world or the Mongol slaughter of vast parts of the world.
@@future288ify sorry but you are mistaken.
Sorry Kay, I worked in a library all through college and the Irish slave trade was a very real thing. You should probably do some research before jumping online and commenting on things that you don’t know about. Just because google puts a bunch of propaganda on the first page doesn’t mean that you did your research.
Dr. Sowell is just an HONEST believer- better than "Fair" because "fairness" has a compassion sense attached to it. Dr. Sowell is just truthfully even if it is unpopular.
“Equip yourself with skills people are willing to pay for” that is really something my dad told me many times growing up.
I was taught many different forms of
Construction work growing up. Now kids shy away from learning how to build or work on equipment. Boys in America are being raised to girly. This comes from a
soft society.
Not only that, surround yourself with like minded people. Others will just try to bring you down.
It made no difference. For example as I worked on severed wire on a bldg., A black doctor was being discussed by several white men inside.
Instead of using his name, he was referred to as "the nigga doctor". " Yeah, he was a no good nigga doctor". I'll never forget that lesson and I kept working, realizing how much being black made even professionals, doctor's, lawyers, etc. targets of white hatred. Very sobering indeed.
@@garygoodin1426 ok but how many people really do that? I haven’t met any people that actually talk about or treat black people like that. Yes there is a percentage of people that discriminate against each other. Do you think black people don’t call white people crackers, or how about racists, because what the masses and out children are being told is that white people are all racist and that black people can only be victims. Which is entirely wrong. It is humans, all humans that have from the beginning of civilization have had unpleasant behaviors among ourselves. Whites are not all bad, in fact I think for the most part they are. Every race is just a different color of human and humans all have the same qualities
I've said for years if I ever have a kid I would tell them to make themselves as useful to as many people as possible. Wish my dad would have told me that.
Van, we love you bro, seriously. It's unfortunate so many in your age group were taught wrongly. Thomas Sowell is who he is, because he ignored the status quo and educated himself with the facts. He is a Black Conservative who made it through Jim Crow , the Civil Rights movement and all the violence that came with it, and stuck to his non-victimhood principles.
Right? There's no victims.
Everyone has the same equally opportunities in every and all forms.
@@jasondavis9639 my comment was clearly satire!
It's not factual at all.
I already clicked and subed!
@@kylaarmstrong-benjamin8066 what a fine Patriot you are
@@robmckrobmck5567 yes I am.
@@kylaarmstrong-benjamin8066 You dont really believe that do you??
Making a law against lynching doesn’t mean that up to this date lynching was legal, it would be murder, or attempted murder. A new law would just specify it as a hate crime with a more harsh punishment.
So what's the difference? Murder already has 25 to life. Why not just do that? Oh I know...because calling it something else gives politicians the opportunity to mold 'hate crime' 'protected' and 'lynching' to whatever they want. It removes protection from people and puts more power into the hands of the powerful few.
Aren't all violent crimes hate based?
@@markbrown8097 yeah buts its extra hatey. Its like you have hate then you season it with more hate 🤣
At one time hanging by the neck until dead was the accepted death penalty all over the World.
I have watched many of your videos now. I just want to tell you that I have a ton of respect for you, Van Hall. You are doing something very very useful and valuable for the good of all of our society. Please, keep doing this! And the way you present ideas is very humble and i think that makes it as effective as possible at opening minds that have so far been closed.
Thomas Sowell is wrong, in denial, or stupid. These elite, well-educated, slave-owning, God-fearing "Founding Father" White men made "the rules" and defined all exceptions to "the rules," and it was not "self-evident" that all people are created equal, or they would have said so. As validated by the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution, these men knew the value of words, and how to carefully craft sentences, paragraphs, and documents. Evidence of their intent to sustain their "privilege" is validated by the absence of any timetable to establish that "all people are created equal." Keep in mind, these elite, well-educated, slave-owning, God-fearing "Founding Father" White men had no problem executing contracts or agreements between themselves, or Native Americans, and with France, Spain, etc. Or, are supposed to believe these elite, well-educated, slave-owning, God-fearing "Founding Father" White men, who used the same colonization tactics as their British peers, were not as smart as Chinese men who established, with Britain, a 99-year (timetable) lease for Hong Kong in 1898?
The overwhelming majority of Jewish families I know are very close and have strong family values..that's why they do so well..it seems to me yall have a close family and your kids seem to be doing great as well. That's what its about.
Exactly right. Thomas Sowell's History of the Jews discussed this and he also talked about how Jews managed as middle men because they didn't have a natural resource to trade. It's a very good read. It's on TH-cam as well if you've never heard it before.
@John Fischer That's what I meant by being middle men. There was a group in China and the Lebanese did this as well. It's an economic solution to not having anything of value except your gift of gab.
Consider this idea and having a strong family that hands down businesses when people discuss why so many Jews are in positions like managers, accountants, money lenders and precious metals-jewelry.
Not just that, Jews test high on math skills.
It's why I get kinda tickled when I hear about the JQ. I just think people haven't or mentally can't extrapolate from history why certain populations tend towards certain outcomes.
Jewish society has historically been one of the societies that has a strong history of supporting those in the society that arent doing well and helping them get back on their feet. Also, due to the sheer number of people discriminating against them in the normal job markets(normal trades/farming), they usually had to get innovative and find alternate means or untapped markets(diamonds and movies)
That's a given. The Jewish Families emphasize the importance of "Education" and they could care less about wearing expensive sneakers, sweat-suits, and gold chains. Interestingly, the Asian students are kicking *ss and doing better than the Jews in public schools. Again, the common ingredient to their success is their focus on studying hard
(6-8 hours/day) in their advanced placement school classes. They're not wasting time hanging out& doing nothing.
I am Jewish and I don’t know of anyone in my family tree or that of any of my friends that received reparations for anything. We were slaves to the Pharoh of ancient Egypt. Should we seek reparations for that? Jewish families like many others have a strong family dynamic which includes two parents and an emphasis on education.
They are probably referencing the jews getting their homeland back
@@jaybelle1909 nope
Reparations is not paid to individuals it's paid to your country which is Isreal.
@@LarryBonson so give reparations to Africa? That makes no sense.
LFR, who is is ignorant to almost everything to do with history, loves to throw out half truths. Jewish people receiving reparations? Not in the history of the civilization. Our "reparations"? HARD WORK BY OURSELVES. LFR is in so far over his head when making videos like this that he should just STFU and educate himself first. What an embarrassment.
I would say remember one thing while watching this. Trevor Noah is South African NOT American. He came to America Just to do The Daily Show when Jon Stewart retired.
How well is South Africa doing ?
@@Tara-zq3il It's pretty shit here. A lot of government policies based on race alone which hasn't helped the country at all, High unemployment, high crime, laughable basic education (You only need an average of 30% to pass high school). The weather is nice though
I love how we all discuss slavery that “happened in the past”, yet I never hear those same people discuss present day sexual slavery of females who are SOLD into sexual trade all over the globe.
Look up who's body is it..channel on you tube there's a discussion with Dr Suzanne Vierling. It's brilliant. It speaks to your comment.
I agree so much modern day slavery including blacks in Africa and sex slavery for women and children. Why isn't the world stopping this instead thinking their they are owed money for events they were not party to.
Thomas Sowell is wrong, in denial, or stupid. These elite, well-educated, slave-owning, God-fearing "Founding Father" White men made "the rules" and defined all exceptions to "the rules," and it was not "self-evident" that all people are created equal, or they would have said so. As validated by the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution, these men knew the value of words, and how to carefully craft sentences, paragraphs, and documents. Evidence of their intent to sustain their "privilege" is validated by the absence of any timetable to establish that "all people are created equal." Keep in mind, these elite, well-educated, slave-owning, God-fearing "Founding Father" White men had no problem executing contracts or agreements between themselves, or Native Americans, and with France, Spain, etc. Or, are supposed to believe these elite, well-educated, slave-owning, God-fearing "Founding Father" White men, who used the same colonization tactics as their British peers, were not as smart as Chinese men who established, with Britain, a 99-year (timetable) lease for Hong Kong in 1898?
Sowell mentioned current day slavery in this video.
And children in particular.
Between the two I would side with Thomas Sowell because he goes back to facts and original sources whereas Trevor Noah is using feelings and not hard facts. There are many times where Trevor has stuck his foot in his mouth while there are almost no times where Thomas has.
This clown, Sowell, makes some really stupid arguments. You are wronged and go to trial, and this clown stands up for the defense and argues you should not get justice because a lot of other people have been equally wronged. Absurd. Based on that nonsense, there should be no murder trials because so many people have be murdered. Nonesense. Bro, that is not being "fair," your word; that is being an apologist for enslavers. Reparation are paid all the time. Victims of 911 were paid hundreds of millions in reparations. Why? Because it was the right thing to do. Or we should not practice "democracy" because prior to the 18th century so many other countries did not practice it. Absurd. The very example Sowell gave about Black students at Cornell, is a prime example were the implementation of "reparations" in the form of of tutors and other enrichment could have benefited the obviously smart Black students. QED
@@danilopompey754 you are joking right? That is the exact thinking that keeps people mentally enslaved to propaganda. Also learn history America is a constitutional republic not a democracy. It sounds like ypu need to listen and not just hear.
@@dole8001, since you obviously could not refute a single thing I said, you restored to saying a platitude. Look it up. (Try again.) Our type of government is "democratic;" its precise form was not germane, and if you could think with any rigor, you would know that, but you clearly don't. Dr Sowell is a clown; he has been espousing his nonsense for over 50 years, and has not managed - in all those years - to debate a single person on the left. Why? Because they would chew his a*s up and spit him out, just like I do, and I'm literally nobody. My endorsement of reparations obviously remains unchallenged. QED
Thank you for airing this discussion. As an African-American, I believe we need more of these discussions to help those of us who feel like victims…those of us who are nihilistic.
I love Thomas Sowell! He feels me with truth and knowledge. Thanks for sharing and please keep it going so we can hear every side. I personally look for truth.
I agree 100% with Thomas Sowell. The question that comes to mind is why one group should get extra advantages when many of another group are as poor as the group that gets advantages!
@@jasondavis9639 What exactly do you mean with "we built the country"? Is that a exuse for a group to have more advantages?
My ancestors came from two sides, one side fled Germany to get away from a very evil man and the other was Native Americans that were forced to walk The Trail Of Tears. We all have ancestors in our families that were badly mistreated, used and murdered but if we pay everyone there would not be enough money
Thomas Sowell is someone we should all hear from…a wonderful mind.
Dawg, the squeaking of your chair sounds EXACTLY like one of the cabinet doors in my kitchen. I am home alone and you just had me walking around room to room with a hammer at 2 in the morning, omg 🤣🤣🤣
More slaves now then ever in history. Estimated 40.3 million slaves right now and 71% being women and 1 in 4 being a child. So just let that sink in.
And these slaves are not in "white" or western countries, they're in countries run by people of color. where the majority of people living there are people of color.
So crazy.
@@wpeters4361 non western? Like the Dominican Republic where they just go across the Island to Haiti and grab people to drag off into sugar cane fields? It's everywhere just being overlooked and ignored.
Thomas Sowell is a national treasure and his books should be taught in high schools.
His theories were taught in high school. Maybe you dont remember the scene with all the kids falling asleep in class in Farris Buller's Day Off.
No. Thomas Sowell is a collaborator. He's an apologist for white supremacists. His arguments are all specious. He's just like Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens. There is a special hell for those people. There isn't enough space in the comments section of TH-cam to teach all Americans what our education system has spent the last 200 years lying about.
@@sidneycooper listen to him and you won’t think that anymore.
@@Kunfucious577 I have listened to him. He is a sophist. His positions seem logical to the uninformed, but they are fallacies. The insideousness of Mr. Sowell is that he KNOWS what he is doing. Upton Sinclair famously said, "It's hard to make a man understand a thing when his paycheck depends on him not understanding the thing."
Systemic racism in the U.S. is a verifiable, historical fact. Yet, somehow Mr. Sowell is blind to it. Nevermind that all anyone has to do is read the U.S. Constitution. It states a black man is only equal to ⅗ths of a white man. In 1870, the 15th Amendment granted black men the right to vote. Then, every state legislature and court, including the U.S. Supreme Court ignored the Constitution for the next 95 years until Voting Rights Act of 1965 was signed by President Johnson. And after black people turned out in historic numbers to elect and re-elect Obama, the SCOTUS gutted the law. The VERY NEXT DAY àfter the Shelby County v. Holder decision was announced, Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama announced they would return to suppressing the black vote.
Also, the FHA drew maps to specifically deny mortgages in every community that had black residents. It was called red lining.
After WWII, the GI Bill guaranteed veterans returning from the war low interest, money down, mortgages. That was on paper. In reality, only a handful of black veterans were allowed to exercise their right to that benefit. It was provided million's of white veterans in which is why in 2016, the net wealth of the average white family was ten times greater than the average black family.
I could go on for volumes. My point is that the U.S. was founded as a white supremacist nation. That is what the 1619 Project is all about. Of course the forces of white supremacy are pushing back as they always have. Mr. Sowell is an educated man, yet he denies the verifiable. He denies it because the racists pay him extraordinary sums of money to deny the truth. This is not a new phenomenon.
The masters have always been able to find willing accomplices among the enslaved. Even during the Final Solution, the Nazi found Jews that helped them kill Jews. The U.S. Army had entire companies of Indian Scouts that helped the White man commit genocide against the indigenous nations. Enslaved blacks spied on their fellow enslaved to uncover slave revolts; they were employed as "drivers" to help the white overseers torture the enslaved to glean ever higher productivity from the work camps. History has given these traitors various names. But they all fall under the category of collaborator. They worked against their own people on behalf of the oppressor for personal benefit.
Tell me if the following seems true:
"If it takes a man 8 hours to dig an 8' by 8' by 8' hole, it should take two me 4 hours to dig the same hole." Sounds accurate, right? Except it isn't. If it were true, then all you would have to do is keep doubling the men until you have enough men to dig the whole instantly! That is a classic example of sophistry. On the surface it sounds accurate. Only after you take the premise to its logical conclusion that the fallacy is revealed. This is the game that Mr. Sowell is playing. His arguments are crafted to appeal to the casual observer who is not versed in the subject. But upon critical scrutiny, his logic falls apart. He twists facts and denies history to make his point. And the last time I checked, if you have to twist things to make your point, you don't have a point.
@@sidneycooper you haven’t listened to him cause you wouldn’t be describing him this way if you did. I’d understand if you just don’t agree with him but no reasonable person would think about calling the man uninformed after watching or reading him. Every single one of his books use up almost half of the book to site references he used to write it. He has facts or statistics in almost every sentence. The man doesn’t get emotions involved which is how he’s been able to take all the baseless insulting by people with his same skin color. It’s always a personal attack but never on the subject cause he right. You’re a good example. All you basically said was you don’t like him and you think he’s illogical. Ok. Fine. About what? And after you point out what was illogical, tell me why and where you got that info. You wouldn’t be able to because he’s not wrong.
7:44 "It's hard to imagine that you have benefits because of the color of your skin if you cannot see the benefits that you have."
This is truly amazing to me. So when a white person is just as poor and has it just as rough as a black person, the white person should not complain, because he's white? And even though there are no benefits to be seen, he's still somehow benefitting from the color of his skin? Why? Are white people superior and therefore have inherent benefits because of it? That's ridiculously racist against black people. Or is he saying that it's impossible for a white person to have it just as bad as a black person? So a black millionaire can complain about having it rough, but the poor white person can't simply because he's white? That's incredibly racist against white people. And all of this is even assuming that white people on average are getting more benefits from 'the system' than black people do, which has never been proven and, dare I say, even been debunked multiple times.
I'm starting to feel like Trevor is just a racist who cannot see reality for what it is, because he's blinded by hatred and possessed by his ideology.
Thomas Sowell warns us about race hustlers like Trevor Noah. Millionaires that make money stirring up hatred with the narrative about why blacks should feel owed something by others who had nothing to do with suppressing their ancestors.
@@zorab1619 yep, he just says what his handlers want him to for TV views and he gladly does it to get his bag. Dude has no ties to America dad swiss/German, mom African, and he was born in south Africa, yet wants to complain about America while receiving all the benefits America has to offer that immigrants are literally dying to get here for.
@darkaquatas BINGO! Trevor IS racist. Big time.
Not to say that he probably came to his millions thanks to his hatred and ideology. he is possessed by.
@@Jcikokalol Damn, I did not know that. Good point.
Dude you are YOU and that ALONE is top tier. Sowell, MAN I also got sucked into his work, books etc. and it was a rabbit hole of knowledge back in college & thru the years. That thirst for knowledge I have, you have, Joe & Jen has - it's growth. Learning from all different sources is growth. It's objective self education.
Keep doing you buddy! 🔥🔥🔥✍️ We get the facts now we chose (wisely) what we do with it.
The Jews received reparations from Germany, it was file 3 years after the war ended, the people responsible were still alive. American slavery was different the owners only took your freedoms and made Africans work, it wasn’t a killing fields and no property was obtained. A hundred years later no slaves are here and no slave owners are here.
The obvious flaw is that the Jews were doing just fine BEFORE the war, and they would have done just fine after the war with or without reparations. The notion that jews only do so well today because Germany paid some of them after the war is absolutely ludicrous. The answer is culture. I'm willing to bet most would find it insulting. The idea that people today who have never owned slaves should pay reparations to other people's today who had never been slaves is so stupid it's beyond comprehension.
They filled 3 years after the war but it was decades before the received any . Remember Germany didn't start paying anything until the late 60s . Because of post war reconstruction ( the Marshall an ect ) and some as late as 2000 period swiss bank and art collections. Stolen property
Way more than 100 years.
"Only took your freedoms" Holy shit! "No property obtained". Absolutely disgusting the level of ignorance displayed in this post is mind bending. Hundreds of years of brutality, rape, lynching's and oppression. No slave owners here today? Here is a thought use google and research the companies who profited off and exist because of slavery and are billion dollar entities today due to said profiting of slavery! New York Times, USA today, brooks Brothers, CXS railroads, Bank Of america, Wachovia AIG ect ect ect. 100 years later no slaves? I guess if you ignore the Lynch laws and con
vict leasing sure! It's amazing someone can have access to unlimited information at the touch of ones fingers but can be so fucking ignorant at the same time! Yuck
@@DrewRycerz yes a hundred and 70 something years sinse 1864 .
Dude, I am enthralled with watching your journey. Let no one tell you not to watch something, how can we grow and educate ourselves if we can’t open our minds to the concepts of others. It doesn’t necessarily mean that we have to agree with everything, the worst we can do is become a monolith society of thinkers and forget that we are individuals first, and that path is through information from all points of view. God Speed on your path in life 🙏🏼❤️
Very few slave owners, as only the rich could afford them, and there were both white and black slave owners. To give reparations now, after so much time has passed, would be punishing the majority for the actions of a minority. Not to mention you have a lot of people like me, whose ancestors came here long after slavery had ended, and had no part in slavery at all. All it would do is create even more vitriol and division between the races, which we don't need at all right now.
@@jasondavis9639 Black slave owners were few. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Black_slave_owners_in_the_United_States
But they existed.
@@jasondavis9639 Then learn your own history, don't just listen to race hustlers and propagandists. Instead of spouting garbage, how about you educate yourself. There were black slave owners in the south and slaves did not build your country. I was born in soviet union and live in eastern europe, yet know your history better than you who just spouts the usual garbage narrative like a good sheep.
Confining slave owners to two races (black or white) is not correct. I just wrote a paper for university class on Native American Anthropology and discussed in detail the prevalence of Native American tribes who owned slaves.
@@atkinastarling4630 This video is about those two races though, hence why I stuck with them. Every race had slave owners and slaves, of course.
@@jasondavis9639 If you actually looked up real historical events Africa also gained a lot in the slave trade that they participated in. The Congo’s first two biggest exports were ivory and slaves. Don’t act like all your ancestors hands are clean they played the game to. Race Hustler
I love Sowell because he never says anything without the evidence to support it. I appreciate the hard work and dedication it takes to research and find evidence for your claim. People usually believe what they want to believe without any evidence.
Thomas Sowell is always inspiring and hearing his speak puts everything I've encountered in my life into perspective. Race Hustlers do exist and unfortunately disguise themselves very well. No one is responsible for you other than you. We need to stand tall as Americans and quit allowing today's politicians of segregating us. We need to believe that putting your hopes and dreams into the hands of anyone else will result in nothing. Thomas Sowell has touched on every topic argued in today's society but what's even more frightening is that he said a lot of these things a long time ago, we're just seeing them come to fruition.
Really like it when you bring the two 'opposing' arguments, we couldn't ask for anything more than you giving us both sides of the coin, WELL REPRESENTED in a discussion. No mature person even WANTS to stay in an echo chamber.
@@jasondavis9639 race hustler alert 🚨
Being born American is like hitting the lottery. The ticket was paid for by all our ancestors. That's the best way to look at it.
Also, there is more slavery now than ever before
No there is not more slavery now than ever. 😂😂😂
@@bigl9478 I'm not sure if that statement is true or not but there's definitely more than most think
Slavery still exists in China, the Middle East and Africa.
@@dawnelder9046 every country! There's sex slave's in at least every major city in America.
@@bigl9478 You sweet summer child.
The clip with Thomas Sowell describing his experience teaching minorities at Cornell PERFECTLY sums up the problem with the equity based approach vs. merit. Fuuuuucking hell! Why can't everyone be as smart as Thomas Sowell??? Why can't I be??
The haters never talk about modern day slavery happening right now. That tells me how sincere they are , they care sooooo much about people. My ass
Not all Africans were slaves, some were slave owners. So you will need to have a DNA test to show your ancestry before you could claim reparations. If you have any DNA link to Benin for example then you descended from slave owners. The Kingdom of Dahomey said they would do anything the British asked of them except abolish slavery; because enslaving their enemies was their glory that their children would hear these stories. Further to Noah's claims that we came from a poor family, he went to private school so he couldn't have been that poor.
@@jasondavis9639 No one owes you a damn thing! You want to eat? Get out and earn money to pay for your food or beg others to give some yo you. Your choice? You a begging parasite or someone who takes care of himself and others?
One question yes or no did the the government support Reparations and reparations were paid to slave owners and what was given to the slaves when they were freed? And what was the promised
and we only talking about slavery in this country only. If we can pay reparations to Holocaust survivors and their Descendants then why not to the descendants of those who were slaves and suffered through the laws of Jim Crow, gentrification, redlining, black codes, segregation
Lyching is already illegal, dude. This law’s purpose is specifically politicized in way to speak about the lyching of black ppl. Personally, I don’t care if they pass that law as long as it doesn’t harm anyone, but lyching is very very illegal. Geez...
Yep. And it's not like other laws don't cover it. The list starts with (attempted) assault and ends with premeditated murder, with anything a creative prosecutor feels like tossing in between for good measure.
Remember, its the fake news media spinning it their own way, so we should show a bit more understanding with people who hear it from those outlets.
I could be wrong but I believe part of the problem with the bill was the failure to define lynching. The language was vague enough that a police officer shooting an individual or a self defense case could be open to hate crime charges under the proposed law if the racial identity criteria were met!
Did you know that whites who stuck up for black people or helped in any other way was lynched also..
Thomas Sowell is a brilliant mind, I've learned so much from him, I beleived his wisdom applies to everybody, his logic and facts is something everybody can learn from
Trevor Noah is a hack comedian and can't hold a candle to Thomas Sowell
3:10 It's hard to be sorry for something you never did. My family immigrated here from Poland in the early 1900s. What am I supposed to pay for? As far as I'm aware, no one in my family ever owned slaves, and thanks to my Native American heritage, I can honestly say that my ancestors were oppressed by the white man too. Do I deserve reparations? I don't want it. I'll make my own way with my own efforts. I don't want handouts. I mean, how weak do I have to think I am for me to think accepting reparations from people who never did a thing to hurt me is the right thing to do?
12:34 Affirmative Action has hurt more black students than it has helped and yet any talks to getting rid of it are immediately demonized. 'What, you don't think a black person can do everything a white person can do?' That's not what it's about. We're trying to help black students by matching them with colleges and universities that we know they can fully bring out their talents. 'So you're saying black people are too stupid to be in top colleges and universities in the country? Is that what you're saying?' Well, I'd use different wording, but yeah. Basically. We need to match students with higher learning that is at their level. 'You're a RACIST! BIGOT! You hate black people! You want to see the black people back in chains!' Whoa dude, calm the f**k down! I never said that! 'I don't care! You're a racist! Nothing you say means anything anymore!' And anyone who speaks against AA gets shut down, just like that. Look, if you meet the qualifications to go to Cornell or Harvard or Princeton, and by qualifications, I mean the same qualifications as everyone else, not handicapped qualifications, then that university is at your level and you should go there. But if these places only accept the top 1% and you're in the top 25%, then you don't belong there. If you went, you'd only be hurting yourself. But no one wants to listen to that.
13:51 Who took land away from black people? Did this ever happen in American history?
15:57 Just because something is on the books doesn't mean it's actively practiced. In some states it's still illegal to bake a pie and leave it on your windowsill to cool on Sundays. Government is slow to give up or reconsider anything it has ever done or set on the books, and it usually takes an act of Congress (State Congress in this case) to repeal an ancient law that's no longer in practice and hasn't been for decades. Besides, do you honestly believe that if a black person was 'lynched' in that state that the perpetrators wouldn't be tried for murder? C'mon man.
17:18 Jim Crow laws were not nationally recognized. Don't like the laws in the place you're living? Move. It was a lot easier and cheaper to do that back then because people generally didn't have as much stuff as they do now. It's the same thing today. Look at California. People don't like the laws there and so they're leaving in record numbers. Moving is too hard? Uprooting my family to escape oppression is too difficult? Well, then I guess the oppression you're facing isn't that bad then is it if you'd rather keep your family in it rather than bring them somewhere they'd be better off in the long run. If I had a family and the laws in my area were hurting them, we'd be gone. I don't care if I'd have to start over in a career or if it'll be a little harder on my family for a time because we'd be moving to a place where their future prospects are much brighter. I'll willing to accept a little hardship if it means my family will be safer and treated better in the end.
19:00 That mentality is called 'weakness'. I don't mean it derogatorily. They lack the mental strength to put themselves out there to see what they can achieve if they just try. I, myself, could be considered 'weak'. I put forth just enough effort to get by, but I don't take excessive risks. I play things safely and only exert myself enough to get to where I want to be. If I actually applied myself, I'm 100% confident that I would be in a much better position than I am today... but I don't. And that is my weakness.
21:18 'The way anyone else would'. The way ANYONE ELSE would. This means you're not limited because of the color of your skin. The only limitation you have is the one you put on yourself, and most of the time, it's a mental limitation... you allow yourself to believe something that isn't true and you let that false belief limit your actions. Free your mind. And the rest will follow.
There's no amount of political oppression, no amount of economic exploitation and no amount of social degradation has been able to stop us as black people from accomplishing great things here in the U.S.A.
Not because racism doesn't exist in the DNA of the U.S.A
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*Best comment I’ve read all year!!* Perfectly worded and concisely argued. I was born in Romania, and my ancestors were enslaved by the Ottoman Empire (modern-day Turkey) *after* slavery was abolished in America. Should I knock on the Turkish embassy door and request my reparations?? Of course not. My family never owned slaves even as far back as I can trace my roots to the Roman Empire. Like you, I don’t see any reason why I should have to pay anyone for something with which neither my family, nor I, have ever been involved. Frankly, I don’t even think that the 5% of white Americans that are ancestrally tangentially tied to slavery here in 🇺🇸 should have to pay a penny.
@Logic Worx - That’s a good point you make that I hadn’t considered. However, I will rebut your argument by citing the Empire or Japan. It was dissolved in 1947 whereby a new Japanese Constitution and form of government was started, and even so, the new Japanese government paid reparations to the Philippines in 1956 in the amount of $550 million for the atrocities the former government committed, and in 1959 they paid $39 million in reparations to Vietnam also for the same reason. In other words, if the new Japanese government had to pay reparations for what the former government did, then why wouldn’t the new Turkish government have to pay for what their former government did? I’m sure there’s a statute of limitations whereby too much time has elapsed, but the point still holds.
Sincerely, I don’t want reparations from people living today that had nothing to do with things done by their ancestors to my ancestors. There’s a better solution : to sacrifice and delay gratification by disciplining myself to build a better life for myself & my family all by myself. Problem solved & mission accomplished. Why can’t everyone else do this instead of whining & moaning in the hope that they’ll receive yet another handout at the expense of others’ hard work by way of taxes??
3:10 The Native American situation, Impoverishment and Unemployment, COVID-19 Pandemic After Effects, Violence against Women and Children, The Climate Crisis, Less Educational Opportunities, Inadequate Health and Mental Health Care, Continued Issues with Voting Rights, Native Languages are Being Threatened. All because of goverment policies of discrimination and persecution since the founding of the nation.
12:34 the fact that we are still having the "First Black person too" happen currently is not because an entire culture of people did not have the skill to compete. Affirmative action did not do all it was intended to do but it was a start.
13:51 1 example because you just needed one, the Alberta neighborhood in Portland Oregon, demolished to build a freeway, a stadium and a hospital. No one was relocated they were told to find new homes.
15:57 Correct just because it's on the books does not mean its practiced, if there is no need for it remove it.
17:18 This is the most ignorant part of your comments, telling all of the people oppressed to move assumes there is room for them were they go, and the sudden influx of new people would not create tension, The people displaced by Katrina weren't even welcomed with open arms everywhere they went.
19:00 Millions of people are weak minded got it. Not even asking a God for strength in a time of need could help the that. Huge oversimplification of the issue at hand
21:18 " The way ANYONE ELSE would." No one is limited by skin color because racism does not exist in the world, just people too weak to take up action. so, this is the Billions that are weak minded now. I stand corrected this is the most ignorant statement.
There’s never been a time in the history of the world that it has ever been a level playing field,this idea of Reparations is rooted is sheer (Greed,covetousness and Envy
It's good that you are watching Mr. Sowell. It's good that you question too. God bless you.
A million Irish people my people died in the great famine at that time we were part of Britain because aid was cut to the starving population. We are not looking for reparations. That was then in the past.
Over 6 million Irish people died during the Great Famine. The population of Ireland still has not recovered to its previous numbers.
And to the person who responded below that it’s not the same thing as US slavery, you’re absolutely correct.
The Irish were enslaved by the English for over 500 years as opposed to less than 100 (counting from when the United States became an independent nation and was responsible for it’s own laws). The Irish faced penal laws throughout the entire country of Ireland, not half of the country like the United States. They were not accorded full personhood, a la Dredd Scott, but for 500 hundred years. Not allowed to own property, marry, be educated, grow crops, hunt, fish, they didn’t even have ownership of their own bodies. They couldn’t bring law suits, they couldn’t be freed by the landowners.
Irish were viewed as a different race, a different breed, and were despised even in the United States for hundreds of years. Just Google “Dogs and Irish not allowed”.
Every group at every point in time can point to another group and talk about enslavement and oppression. The English who oppressed the Irish had been enslaved first by the Romans and then by the Vikings.
Should Greece sue Iran and Rome for hundreds of years of enslavement? Should all of lower Asia and the Middle East sue Egypt? Should the people of Peru sue the people of Mexico because the Inca were enslaved by the Aztecs? Or the Navajo sue the Iroquois for their centuries of enslavement? Where do we stop? And when do we, as people of conscience and, perhaps followers of Christ, accept what can’t be changed in the past and focus on taking responsibility for ourselves and our children, working hard, forgiving the people who have hate in their hearts, and live lives of personal responsibility, love and brotherhood?
The British took food out of Ireland during the famine.
@@dawnelder9046 Yes, they did. It was a Malthusian solution to a false problem. Rather like Jonathan Swift’s “A Modest Proposal”, which was a reductio ad absurbum to illustrate the weakness in the English position toward the entire “Irish Problem”.
My whole point was, at what point do we just accept history as it was and take responsibility for ourselves and, to a lesser extent, our children?
If I wanted to sit here and play victim, and teach my children the same way of thinking, I could list a hundred ways in which my children would be considered “disadvantaged”. My husband and I chose a completely different route. We taught them to work hard, study, learn, make connections, and do everything they could to be successful. They are now independent, resourceful and resilient adults.
If I had to take the advice or listen to Thomas Sowell or Trevor Noah.... It's Thomas Sowell hands down.
Good on you. I won't listen to race hustlers either.
Curious your thoughts about folks like William Ellison, who were free black men in the South that became some of the wealthiest slave owners. What would be done about them within the context of reparations?
Obviously, subtract that from the ledger. Now 'white people' have less reparations to pay :)
What about whites who live here who were never slave owners? And blacks who were never slaves? A huge part of our population are descendant from immigrants after 1865, who had no hand in slavery. And that's the problem with collective guilt and collective identity. We are paying for sins we never committed and others are receiving reparations for crimes that never hurt them. A white and black baby born today have more equal opportunity today than ever before. I'm not saying it's perfect, but reparations are a pointless solution that doesnt help the problem at all
@@Bulley so white descendants of slaveowners owe reparations but black descendants of slaveowners do not?
@@mariabunch3541 I was being facetious lol
@@mariabunch3541 they also don’t want to admit that descendants of slave owners is about .000001% of the white population.
I very much appreciate your commentary on this because it is one of the few places I can go to hear what someone whose views do not line up with my own present their case in a non-argumentative manner.
Paul, a Kentucky Republican, said he did so because “the bill as written would allow altercations resulting in a cut, abrasion, bruise or any other injury no matter how temporary to be subject to a 10-year penalty”.
Funny to hear this from an English man. A people that had two concepts of my ancestors, push them out or breed them out. On Irish and Scottish wedding nights English landowners by law had the right to sleep with the bride. They would tell the farmers what crops they could grow and what they could eat. Killed through starvation, disease and violence. Life for the indentured was work hard for little to no pay then have whole communities not allow you to work and live in most areas after you were free. It is why so many hill billies lived in remote mountain towns.
Trevor Noah is from South-Africa
@@hillarykhadaffi5995 The irony there is impressive.. 🤦♀️
@@kristyperry6846 fr he won't talk about legit racism over there though
That's bollocks. Have you been watching Braveheart? Prima nocta is a myth.
@@Bladderfishy Scholars are still divided on its legitimacy but most arguments are about it being a law not whether it happened at all .
Dude…. It’s so refreshing to hear you and watch you simply digest these different pov with a sincere open mind and emotionally uncharged. There’s too much hysteria and noise in our world. Thank you!
I like watching these videos. It gives me a look into Van’s mind and helps me to understand a different viewpoint. I think that this is what a lot of us are lacking. We have more in common that not but we let those little things divide us.
Sowell breaking down history and facts and numbers
Trevor Noah over there explaining golf. 😂😂😂😂
Think it was more of an analogy but pretty sure you knew that and just being funny lol. All jokes aside Trevor Noah couldnt hold a flame to Thomas. I was actually looking forward to this because based on title I thought I was gonna see them go head to head and watch Thomas school Trevor. I wonder if he has actually ever talked to him face to face? Personally find Trevor Noah annoying and cringey.
Trevor Noah is a wealthy race hustler. He stirs up emotions and won't talk facts.
Van, watching you open your mind and continue to learn from various opposing/different standpoints is so inspiring and refreshing! We don’t all have to agree with anything that anyone says, but hearing from fair individuals, intelligent and studied individuals, etc can only do us good, either to solidify our own viewpoints and shore them up against critique or to show us where our flaws may lie. Keep doing you, continue with content that YOU enjoy, and I think you’ll find that there are plenty of us who will support you even if we diverge in certain areas. The haters are only a hindrance to your goals if you let them sway you from what you personally want to do, and I’m so happy to see that you’re continuing to be authentic and pursue the things that you want to despite what they may throw at you. It shows enormous strength of character not to cave to the angry mob but instead remain true to your own path. We love to see it! Great reaction as usual!
Have great respect For Thomas Sowell, he’s seen a lot and lived a long life to know what’s been happening, He’s 95 years old. So I trust his observations on history and research.
This clown, Sowell, makes some really stupid arguments. You are wronged and go to trial, and this clown stands up for the defense and argues you should not get justice because a lot of other people have been equally wronged. Absurd. Based on that nonsense, there should be no murder trials because so many people have be murdered. Nonesense. Bro, that is not being "fair," your word; that is being an apologist for enslavers. Reparation are paid all the time. Victims of 911 were paid hundreds of millions in reparations. Why? Because it was the right thing to do. Or we should not practice "democracy" because prior to the 18th century so many other countries did not practice it. Absurd. The very example Sowell gave about Black students at Cornell, is a prime example were the implementation of "reparations" in the form of of tutors and other enrichment could have benefited the obviously smart Black students. QED
@@danilopompey754 How far back should reparations go? Should the African tribes who sold other tribes be forking out as well? Should the Arabs who plundered the coasts of Europe for 400 years and Africa for 1400 years be made to pay as well? Should the Turks who drained the Balkans and Central Europe for 600 years pay?
@@danilopompey754 Yours are the dumb arguments. The descendants of a murderer cannot be held accountable for the murderers crimes. You can't correct an injustice with more injustice. You may kkow that Obama has slave owning ancestors on his mother's side. So does Obama get to pay something to the descendants of slaves? And how about blacks who are the descendants of black slave owners? Do they pay money to other blacks? Do native Americans, who owned slaves too, get to pay as well?
@@markaguilera493, great but easy question, let the African families whose loved ones, that is, who can trace Kunta Kente like enslaved and transported forbears, seek reparations from African governments, and let AfroAmericans in America, who find themselves in America, seek reparations from the American government. QED
@@danilopompey754 You might know that in Islam there is a clause that enables the master to free his slaves. This was also a possibility at the time of the Roman empire. But the slave had to compensate for the financial loss. Yeah I know it sounds unfair but see it from the perspective of that time : people enslaved were those vanquished in battles and their children. . When the romans won a battle against whoever they were fighting, say the Gauls, the survivors were enslaved. The Gaul chief Vercingetorix was enslaved by Caesar after the siege of Alesia. Now if the romans were beaten, they were the ones who ended up enslaved. It was fair game. Enslavement was the most humane alternative, the worst of course was being sentenced to a slow agonizing death such as crucifixion or impaling. You may have heard of the Spartacus slave rebellion. After Spartacus and his followers were vanquished the survivors were all crucified on crosses by the side of the road leading back to Rome as a deterring example to any future revolt So in a way those who were made slaves were actually granted something : life, which is in its own way a compensation. Freedom in that context is an actual reparation in itself. In Africa, Arabia, Turkey there are literally millions of slave descendants. Many of them know it but I'm not aware of any movement seeking reparation. In certain parts of Africa like Senegal for instance, there is a cultural joke going round. Everyone knows that at some time in the past some member of their family was a slave to another family, and when people meet and find out their names they mention it jokingly in conversation.
Long story short, by historical standards the descendants of Afro-American slaves got their reparation. Not only did they not have to compensate for the slaveowners' loss, the government stood in for that, but there was an actual war about it. White people fought other white people to end the institution of slavery. This is historical fact because hadn't the abolitionists movements been pushing for at least 200 years for the abolition of slavery, there could never have been such a war.
You sir are an inspiration to a man who lived in Birmingham UK during the riots and slum
Clearance. I lived the life of the minority but am part of the majority. Stay safe.
Trevor speaks alot of anecdotal things, but Thomas speaks from a factual standpoint, with data, and facts to back it up, along with his own experience in teaching.
Thomas gave solid advice on how to better yourself and your family's future. Trevor makes millions stirring up emotions on why you should be angry and owed something. Trevor is one of those race hustlers Thomas warns us about.
Trevor isn't even from this country so he needs not have an opinion about this country or its past. He needs to be concerned with S. Africa and their slavery issues. He's just an opportunistic individual not a reasonable one.
@@ravenspawn8982 white people… anyways you have it reversed. Thomas is speaking about world history. Reparation has to do with American history.
Thomas is purveying rank sophistry, plain and simple.
Yes, but Thomas also seems to think that racism isn't existent at all in modern society
Let's get Larry Elder on this channel.
Yes 👍 👍 👍
Larry is an interesting speaker, but he's mostly about facts and why facts are on his side, and doesn't care about the feelings of people he disagrees with, which I think was one of his criticisms of why he isn't fond of Shapiro. I could be wrong, but I think he said something to that affect recently
Yes! Larry elder! I would consider reparations for the elder generation of women, as well as those who grew up under Jim Crow. But I would not support giving anyone under 50 a dime in repetition …
And to your point of acknowledging that there are people who actually don't try because they believe somebody is going to hold them down no matter what they do...
The simple fact is...
it's always easier as human beings to find a good excuse for failure than to put in the hard work necessary for success.
@@theelite3792 Shapiro always advocates for Facts over feelings. That's his catch phrase.
I despise trevor Noah.. another fact lynching comes from the Irish name lynch. It happened all over Europe. Like in Italy. ( white on white) it was already illegal, but like domestic violence or equality they keep making new legislation for them same things . And ignore previous legislation.
Trevor Noah is one of the race hustlers that Thomas Sowell warns us about.
The pot of gold is forgiveness and learning from the past. Mr. Sowell takes facts and statistics and without assumption. He judges people on character and not color. He is one of my favorite human beings and I could listen to him all day. What make this so real is your reaction. i have listened to and read Sowell for years but love your balanced and fair reaction. I learned from your comments today. Peace.
I would like to know the cost of the DNA results that would have to be done to black and white people to prove who owned slaves and who were enslaved in this country. I bet it would cost more than the actual reparations. Then, how much money does a descendent of a slave get and how much does a descendent of a slave owner owe? Are black people also going to want reparations from the Africans that captured their ancestors? What about their ancestors that ended up in South America, do they get reparations? Do black slave owners have to pay reparations? I'm talking about the black slave owners in America. I think people who talk reparations don't give this a lot of thought of how much will have to be done to figure all this out. What about interracial children, do they only get half of the reparations? Or do they cancel each other out because half of their DNA was a slave owner and the other half was a slave? I believe these are fair questions.
You just glitched the leftists matrix
@@grafrajar I hope so. My Walker side of the family arrived here in the early 1700's. They fought in the Revolutionary War and family had a split on the Civil War. Some from my family took up with the North while others took up with the South. With the amount of land my family owned back then, I can say we probably owned slaves, but I'm not 100% certain and it's part of the reason I'm doing one of those ancestry DNA things. Idiots don't understand what really will go into finding out this and could you really ask someone who didn't do something pay for that past and give that money to people who didn't suffer from that past. I'm also really tired of hearing that they are suffering now, their are too many black people that came from nothing to make something of themselves to say that they all can't do it. But we white people helped put them into this culture, we need to help pull them out.
Those questions are irrelevant because the Left has no intention of doing it in any kind of fair way like that, they're simply going to write a check to every black person in the country regardless of their ancestry at the expense of every taxpayer regardless of their ancestry.
All of that won’t matter…that is why the conversation has changed to systemic racism and CRT (the entire structure is designed for the benefit of white people). It won’t matter if you’re blacked ancestors came here in 1920….well then they suffered Jim Crow, etc. Besides the expense involved in your proposal…there is no amount of money that would be deemed enough….and then would all the racism, victimhood mentality end….no….because when there is still inner city poverty, crime, gangs, etc…..what then, reparations 2.0, the first batch wasn’t enough? Where are the millions donated to BLM….that money cannot even be accounted for to supposedly help the black community.
Keep in mind( and this coming from a Mexican American btw) A very few percentage of cacausians owned slaves in the United States. For it was only the weatlhy whites that owned slaves. The rest were poor to lower class citizens trying to make ends meet. Of course liberal media would want every person who is white to believe their ancestors owned slaves, which simply is not true its an overblown false narrative. A majority of cacausians that can trace their ancestorial dna would show they are not descendents of slave owners.
I absolutely love that you're listening to these conversations! It's the essence of what true libertarians and classic liberals aspire to in the vein of free speech. Having real conversations and the like. I could give an avid argument against the position that Trevor stood for, but I am proud to say that I could do so with civility.
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Hell I think it’s even something conservatives by and large stand for who are genuine about their beliefs. It’s just talking from a different perspective, it may be very difficult to get a conservative to change their position but conversations and debate are a core tenant to the foundation of this nation. It’s more authoritarians on both sides who are the ones not wanting these talks to happen at all because it’s easier to accumulate power that way.
Always cool to join you on your journey through music, politics, comedy and general life.
It doesnt hurt that I *LOVE* me some Thomas Sowell. lol. Have a good day.
loving your channel, and I appreciate the timing of coming across them.... I'm a 46 year old white English woman ....and as time goes on , I'm becoming more able to look objectively at the ideologies / narratives / beliefs that I have held, ...and many, I have realised to be untrue . Thankful for this journey x
" Im tired of being Luke warm" - great statement
Hey man, this is some GREAT content! It’s so nice to see you learn the truth and not fall into the “racist” trap. LEARN the history! Mr Sowell is brilliant, more black and white people need to listen to this guy. He knows the real history of slavery, not what everybody is TOLD what to believe. Hats off to you my friend, you are doing a fine job. New Subscriber!
Keep up this content as long as you want. We can tell you’re really into this journey. Screw anyone telling you what not to watch. It’s all up to you.
I love your reactions to these fundamental topics! Your reactions to Thomas, Jordan, Ben are pure gold! We witness you learn something new and we learn with you! We are in this together! Don’t pay attention to sore narrow minded people! Hear them, but don’t listen to them!
Keep it up listen to both sides, I'm not black, but grew up poor with an alcoholic father. I've had to struggle at times. Do admire your honesty. I love Thomas Sowell he is a thinking man and like you said a fair man.
Even if Sowell was on his death bed I'd easily vote for him as president over anyone in politics right now.
Anyone who tells you not to explore ideas, especially ones that resonate with you, are not on your side. No one else knows exactly what info might be a game changer for us.
I wish Van would react to some things from Officer Tatum or ABL. Two very strong black conservatives and they tell it like it is. Facts over feelings.
The deeper I get into this video the better it gets - again, thanks for posting this video and your comments - it makes me think and learn which is exactly, in my book, where we can have productive and meaningful conversations.
a lot of people in today's society are in the mindset of "govern me harder Daddy" . nobody wants to be held accountable or responsible for themself
they're jealous and bitter that they made horrible and bad choices in their life and the famous saying goes "misery loves company"
True. Good Points.
Thanks for adding these Thomas Sowell interviews. I have a lot of his books. He really is a national treasure.
This clown, Sowell, makes some really stupid arguments. You are wronged and go to trial, and this clown stands up for the defense and argues you should not get justice because a lot of other people have been equally wronged. Absurd. Based on that nonsense, there should be no murder trials because so many people have be murdered. Nonesense. Bro, that is not being "fair," your word; that is being an apologist for enslavers. Reparation are paid all the time. Victims of 911 were paid hundreds of millions in reparations. Why? Because it was the right thing to do. Or we should not practice "democracy" because prior to the 18th century so many other countries did not practice it. Absurd. The very example Sowell gave about Black students at Cornell, is a prime example were the implementation of "reparations" in the form of of tutors and other enrichment could have benefited the obviously smart Black students. QED
nearly everyone on earth has blood of a slave in them. thats his argument, it wasnt that complicated. you know how genghis khan has something like 60 million descendants? slavery has been around for thousands of years and it existed on every continent with every race. if you were to give reparations to some, youd have to give reparations to all- which is everybody.
furthermore, american blacks- who would they get reparations from? the slaves were foisted upon the US by the british colonies. slavery existed in the US for about 70 years. the very first US president made it illegal for slaves to be on board an american ship. the second president made it illegal for slaves to be brought across the borders or to be brought on foreign ships- slavery was ended around 50 years later.. from its very inception the US worked to limit and shift away from slavery- they even fought a civil war with massive bloodshed to put the nail in the coffin. a funny fact that you could look up- just over 1% of whites owned slaves, just over 1% of free blacks owned slaves.
the true history is not at all as simple as race hustlers, and their brainwashed followers, make it out to be. nor is the current situation as simple as race hustler, and their brainwashed followers, make it out to be. Its a nice fairy tale that has some decent traction though.
@@revelation7280, great but simple question. The same entity that paid enslavers for the loss of enslaved Black Americans after the Civil War, will pay Blacks reparations, and since the criterion for payment, according to you, is that it has been done before, payments should be voted by Congress ASAP and queued up for payment before Biden next term. QED
@@danilopompey754 i did not make the argument of "if it has been done before". i made the argument that the british colonies were the ones who bought the slaves from the africans and ferried them over, and had these slaves for far longer than the US did. Is the US to blame for slavery being foisted upon it by the british colonies? is the US to blame for limiting and working against the slave trade from its very inception? - those are my questions. why is the US the one who should pay and not the british? or the africans for selling the british the slaves?
Can you recommend the best ones? Hes got so many lol
Sowell has a way of making precise points quickly and simple.
I had watched the point-counterpoint Trevor Noah-Thomas Sowell passage on another video in the past few days but I appreciated Van Hall's commentary on it. Thomas Sowell is a national treasure.
There was an interesting article written by a writer who was actually given the chance to be a passenger on a slave ship. He noticed after some time that the " Irish" slaves ( supposedly 7 year slaves or indentured servants ) were doing most the work and the dangerous jobs on the ship.
Finally, the man asked the captain why this was .
He was told that the slaves who were only there for seven years were less valuable and were expendable because of this. To actually be released
in 7 years was actually rare for most of them.
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Yep
Many Irish slaves were literally worked to death. They're still finding mass graves along old railways
there's no such thing as an Irish Slave "ZERO" they were indentured servants only, yes they sold their soul for 7 years, while at the same the English was Starving them to death, English man: so here you go sign this contract for a ride to the land of plenty😐 but we're going to work the hell out of you for 7 years and if you run away, if we catch you, will tack on 10 more years to it
@@willie417 You understand that the vast majority did not survive to year 7, yes?