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Thank you so much for this well thought out and planned video! You give me the confidence to finally do this myself, and I'm a journeyman electrician, I've just never tackled one of these jobs before.
Love my whole house Generac generator! I’ve had it over 4 years and it has been absolutely perfect. It uses natural gas. Still have backup solar in case of gas system issues.
This is exactly the unit I have in my home. It kicks in within 10 seconds every time, flawless and it’s operated through 3 extended power outages without fail. We used the power mgmt modules as well, we’re in S Fla with multiple AC units.
@K wood The Generac is great, but for a long term power outage you have to keep filling it with oil for every 24 hours of run time. We live in Wis. so we determined how much oil we would need to keep it running through the cold winter months. We stocked up last year on a HUGE amount of the 5W-30 motor oil it needs to keep running. We will be fine as long as we can keep getting natural gas for our Generac. If that stops, we would switch over to using our power bank generators in the house and then have a gasoline generator in our garage that we would pull out and use as a back up for that. So happy that your Generac got you through 3 extended power outages too! Ours has gotten us through 3 little ones.
@@maureen5054 ... guessing you have one of the earlier air cooled sets. (10 - 15 years old now) They commonly used a quart every two days and as they got older (high run hours) it might increase. The current generation has that problem solved and some will run a week before adding oil.
I checked the service manual and the first oil change has to be done at 25 hours and the subsequent oil changes have to be done at 200 hours. At least according to the maintenance schedule. Was there somewhere else that said it needed to be change more often?
@@RealitySurvival ... as I recall, that's the factory recommended service, although they also call for a valve adjustment at 400 hours along with spark plugs. Personally, from 25 years servicing these things, you should do a valve adjustment somewhere around 50 hours and again by 200 hours. At 400 hours intervals they are already running poorly or making noise. Since you need to remove the plugs to do a valve adjustment (finding TDC) you'd be ahead of the game to change plugs at the same time. For most people that will be $10 every few years. No big deal. Gap the plugs at 0.025" instead of the book's 0.035" and it will start easier in cold weather. BTW, tight valves is probably the most common problem with hard starting on these things. Tight valves can also be the curse that makes for early engine failure.
@@RealitySurvival My Generac service guy told me if the Generac is running 24/7 to shut it off every 18-24 hours. And to change the oil every 150-200 hours. I then wrote the following note so I would know exactly what to do: To turn off: open lid and there is an off button. Take out 7.5 amp fuse. On top of control board there is a circuit breaker switch. Flip that switch off. Let unit cool! You can then take off front panel, using both hands, push up and pull towards you. Oil fill area is orange and check the dip stick. Fill with 10W/30 oil. I was told to check it every 24 hours. Service guy told me how to read the dip stick and how much oil to put in...depending on how much oil is in the unit. You probably know all this, but I shared this info for others to read too. I wrote down everything in case my husband ever gets sick and I have to do it. We also stocked up on a whole lot of oil to get us through a Wis. winter.
I have a Generac all home back up generator that runs on it's own natural gas line. We live in a typical neighborhood with houses next to each other. The Generac is pretty loud when it's running. I feel like it would make us a target (like a gasoline run generator would) during an emergency situation and long term power outage. We have had a few short term power outages here after some storms and the Generac generator kicked on immediately. We also have an EMP Shield that protects both the house and the Generac generator.
Great Video, I'm installing my new 22kw Generac and your information is very helpful. The only exception, I'm using NG instead of LP. Your installation is clean and tight.
We had a 20KWh Generac installed here in Virginia in December of 2016 12-13. I wish I had known a little more about these I would have gotten the wiring from Ziller I think that is more practical. I asked the installer if we needed a surge protector he told me in the 30 plus years installing he didn't know of anybody or heard of anybody needing one. A year and a half went by and a freak storm somewhere a long the line knocked out both mags, controller, and luckily stopped at that point still a couple thousand dollars. Please do yourself a favor and get a whole house surge protector. Some was covered by insurance. About three weeks after install we had a four hour power failure it was really nice to know that my house had power and was warm to come home to power on. I didn't have mobile link yet but I am glad I got it it is LTE which is cellular. I have seen where this is being phased out and will go all to WiFi soon. We got our installed through Lowe's they made the arrangements and financed it for us for 36 months I a glad we did this. One more thing natural gas runs though my property. I enjoyed you video very detailed thank you. Ed
For more backups, you can get a 20 to 25 KW PTO generator for your tractor. I am sure you have a decent supply of diesel fuel. Are you planning on doing a solar setup with battery backup for extended grid down situations?
Interesting idea on the pto genny. Not sure what I am doing with solar yet. I have enough panels to run my wood boiler and pump as is. But may look at getting more in the future. Most likely the next big purchase will be drilling a natural gas well.
@@RealitySurvival Nice plan! If you recall, I'm a geologist. What are the chances of hitting a producing formation below your property's footprint? Will it eventually need to be pressurized? I'm not sure what distance is required from a dwelling to the wellhead and the drying and purifying equipment. Once installed though, payoff begins immediately.
My understanding is that we are sitting on a huge natural gas pocket. The whole region does. It’s also a dry gas. So it doesn’t need any refinement. Just have to run it through a pressure regulator. At least that is what the neighbor has been told by other farmers in the area who have them. We will see if it works out that way.
@@RealitySurvival The State likely has a database for all of the boreholes that have been drilled. It may take a bit of a search to find the department that provides oversight. Filter for the gas wells, and you can learn the details. Total depth, the length of perforated casing, construction technique and materials, etc. Find several closest to you. It'll give you some idea. Department of Natural Resources is a good place to start.
At the utility I work for we installed these at our substations for redundant power to our communications system. We installed dedicated 500 gallon propane tanks for them.
If you really want a whole house generator... you can buy or rent an above ground LP tank. Hint: Check Craigs List. (Last year my neighbor advertised had a 1000 gal below ground tank for free to anyone willing to come dig it up and haul it away... he ended up digging it up himself before he found someone to take it)
The only reason I could afford to buy our Generac and have it installed is because of an inheritance I got. These things are expensive! When all was said and done, I paid over $7,000.00 for the unit and installation in 2016. But power banks (Jackery, Bluetti, etc.) are great alternatives to keep things running during a power outage and SO much cheaper!
why would you put the gas shut off valve on the appliance side of the flex pipe? Should go on the steel pipe so you can change the flex hose if needed with only shutting the local valve.
I would like to put my Generac on the opposite side of the house from the meter box. The circuit breaker box and gas supply are in the back of the house opposite where the meter is. I have a very ong service cable coming out of the meter box and running to the CBB. Can I just run the long service cable from the meter directly to the transfer switch? The transfer switch would be located next to the CBB as you have it in your video.
I don’t see what not as long as the wire was sized properly. But that will be expensive as copper is very high right now. But just check with an electrician to make sure there isn’t any reason why it would t work for your situation.
Great informative video. Question: The large wire with the 2 white strips of tape at the bottom of the transfer switch, where does that run to ? Thanks !
Hey, thanks for this vid!! Very interesting. I was wondering if you have any knwledge of how this generator would work with a geo-thermal heat pump? I know that the power requirements are sigificant to cycle up the system. Thanks!
Is there a setting to make it switch over faster? I see other brands switch over in about 10 seconds or less. This was about 20 seconds. Also is there a setting to make it stay on generator longer after power is restored? I see situations such as during a storm where power may be unstable and it could end up switching back and forth several times.
Hey could you tell me what regulators you use for the line coming out of your main propane tank? And how would you connect a 100lb tank? Just a normal regulator and a line?
JJ, 2 QUESTIONS - 1)Why does our new generator’s instruction sheet say to keep it 25 feet away from the house? 2) If you have natural gas on your property, can you just pump the natural gas directly into your generator?
25feet away from the house? Are you talking about a "portable" generator or a whole house generator like the one in this video? Check your instructions again again. I couldn't find that requirement in any of Generacs whole house standby generator installation guides. The only reference to 25 feet I could find was in relation to using a Generac "portable" generator with extension cords saying: With a high-capacity 10-gauge wire extension cord you can extend you power as much as 25 feet from your home. Anyway, the following excerpt is per Generac Guidleines: All standby generator clearance requirements are dictated by the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) code 37. They must be a minimum of five feet from any openings in the walls (i.e., doors,windows, sealed windows. etc.) The minimum distance from the top of the unit is also five feet. Our air-cooled home standby generators require a minimum of 18 inches of clearance from the backside of the generator (where the electric and gas inlets are located) and a minimum of 36 inches of clearance on all other sides (intake ,exhaust and from front side). Generac liquid-cooled home standby generators, as well as CorePower Series and portable units, require a minimum of 36 inches of clearance from any non-combustible surfaces (i.e., concrete, brick, etc.) and a minimum of 60 inches from any combustible surfaces (i.e., vinyl siding , wood. etc.).
@@eltonnoway5692 ... just as a point of order, Generac went to the pains of getting UL approval for fire rating on the air cooled sets to reduce the required distance to combustible materials. That's why you can put one of these closer than a liquid cooled set. Of course that doesn't mean local code can't be more. In my area we have some towns using 5 and 10 feet as their rule.
maybe a dumb question but how do you recommend getting the generator into backyard if only access is fence gate? is there a dolly that can accomplish this?
@@leatherneckprepper4477 Why wouldn't it work after a hurricane? We went thru hurricane Fran in North Carolina and were without power for two weeks. Never lost NG not even for a second. Now... an earthquake would be a different issue and could definitely present sent a problem. FACT: In August of 1886, a strong earthquake occurred in Charleston, South Carolina. Magnitude is estimated at 6.8 to 7.2. Much of the city of Charleston was damaged or destroyed. Earthquakes in the East are not confined to these areas; they have been recorded in every State east of the Mississippi. Damaging earthquakes have occurred historically in nearly every eastern State.
@@eltonnoway5692 Maybe I should’ve been more specific if there’s no electricity the normal natural gas lines cannot pump gas to your house which is why I say it would not work. However if you have a tank at your house to feed it with then yes it will work.
Now all you need is a bunch of batteries in the shed, a roof full of solar panels, and a critical load panel. Might as well spend the money now it's getting worth less evey day. Plus the solar will at least give you some instant ROI.
JJ did you look at the cost of renting a tank from one company versus buying your own. It appears you have bought your own. Any tips on where to buy your own? Cost-saving tips?
The trick is to connect the generator ONLY to critical areas like where you keep food cold, a room that needs to keep a comfortable temperature for the whole family (goodbye privacy), and a shop where you need to work.
@@Cenlalowell ... the key to making your fuel last is load reduction and limited run time. If you ration your use then fuel consumption could be less than one gallon per hour. If you ran it only enough to keep your food from spoiling (2 shifts of 6 hours?) and a few other items then you can cut your use to maybe 10 gallons per day.... so almost 100 days on 1,000 gallons if I did that math right. I can't imagine we would have any issue lasting longer than that. OTOH, running central AC would blow that completely away.
@@rupe53 Propane tanks are filled to only 80% of capacity. A 1,000 gallon propane tank will provide only 800 gallons of propane, so you need to plan your usage on that basis.
@@comlbbeau ... I'm well aware of that. I was just using 1000 gallons as an example because someone else used it as their starting point. We can bring my other number down to 80 days if it makes you feel better. Still in all, that's darn close to 3 months if well rationed.
The 22KW Generac will use about 2.5 - 4 gallons per hour (1/2 load to full load). Typically averages about 3 gallons per hour. So figure how much usable propane you have and divide by that. For instance, a 1000 gallon propane tank holds 800 gallons usable. So, on average, about 267 hours of run time on a full 1000 gallon tank.
Congrats on the big purchase and to each their own but not my cup of tea. Yes a lot easier option to have no doubt but what happens when you have to evac...your leaving a 8grand system. What happens if you dont lose power but your buddy does....cant really move it anywhere. Again good buy if thats what you need
I can vouch for people wanting to steal these things. You hear about people stealing AC units all the time for the copper. Where I live people like to steal these whole home generators I had 3 stolen in one year. The very first one that got stolen was the very night after it got installed anf tested and ran its first time got up the next morning to it being gone. I had to secure mine inside a steel cage and anchored with 6in Long x 1/2in wide bolts to a concrete pad.
@@Redlegarty needless to say it totally surprised the hell out of me because even the first one was bolted down to a 4 inch thick prefabbed concrete pad. Cops that come out said that the crew doing it knows exactly what they were doing cause they have managed to steal over 15 of the things in the last 6 months and almost every one of them including mine they managed to pick up the generator still attached to the pad, disconnect the gas line, and all the electrical stuff without making a sound or causing damage to the ground no tracks were left behind. It was like it just vanished into thin air.
Too close to the door. Generac require the generator bw no closer than 60" from any opening such a window, vent, or door. Also, this could be really bad if the doors left open because that side of the generator closet to the door is the exhaust.
I like your video very much but if you look at generac’s installation notes it’s very specific about the flex fuel line being straight with no bends in it so as to allow for vibration/movement flex. Otherwise a great video!
Thanks. Since it’s flexible it will still allow for vibration. I don’t see how it could not. I’m sure they may say that but I doubt it will hurt anything. My neighbor has had his for the better part of a year and his is the same way. No issues with his. But I will keep an eye on it.
Reading between the lines on those gas hoses, the notes were specifically for the rubber ones they supplied 5 years ago, but the idea is still the same. Gas flex CAN be used for a slight offset or bend, but should NEVER be used in place of an elbow. The ribbed line we see in the video is what Generac supplies these days.
You can't connect a small propane bottle and run that generator. You need at least a 250 gallon tank so you don't suck all of the vapor out of the tank
My generac doesn’t work when it’s cold out, nice looking but honestly my house lost power twice within the last month.. first time I had mr electric go and change the fluids and a plug(tuneup) second time power went out and it still wouldn’t start up!! Great work mr electric! For $375!! My advice DONT BUY ONE OF THESE PILES OF DOGSHIT!!!!!!!
Really, a Preppers peace of mind? How the heck you going to make you own propane when SHTF? Hey, I have one as well, but I also have a diesel genset that can run from bio-diesel or just about anything else you could make yourself. propane, not so much.
Well The probability of an SHTF situation happening is exceedingly low. That isn’t the primary purpose. The primary purpose is for situations that actually happen in real life. Like power outages due to storms. Real life not fantasy.
I know, I was poking fun at you on the "Preppers Peace of Mind" on the intro but I did see "say prepping for everyday life" and you spell it out clearly in the video. I have the 24kw. With all the power outages now days you pretty much need one and with them adding more and more stuff to the grid the blackouts will probably get worst. I live on the coast and the Hurricanes are always a threat. Being way out in the country means it can be weeks to get power back. Propane availability down in South Texas has been pretty bad over the last year. Nice to have other options. Anyways, enjoyed the video.
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Thank you so much for this well thought out and planned video! You give me the confidence to finally do this myself, and I'm a journeyman electrician, I've just never tackled one of these jobs before.
Awesome! Glad it was helpful!
I'm 90% complete, and your video has been invaluable my friend. Thanks for making this!
You bet!
Love my whole house Generac generator! I’ve had it over 4 years and it has been absolutely perfect. It uses natural gas. Still have backup solar in case of gas system issues.
This is exactly the unit I have in my home. It kicks in within 10 seconds every time, flawless and it’s operated through 3 extended power outages without fail. We used the power mgmt modules as well, we’re in S Fla with multiple AC units.
@K wood The Generac is great, but for a long term power outage you have to keep filling it with oil for every 24 hours of run time. We live in Wis. so we determined how much oil we would need to keep it running through the cold winter months. We stocked up last year on a HUGE amount of the 5W-30 motor oil it needs to keep running. We will be fine as long as we can keep getting natural gas for our Generac. If that stops, we would switch over to using our power bank generators in the house and then have a gasoline generator in our garage that we would pull out and use as a back up for that. So happy that your Generac got you through 3 extended power outages too! Ours has gotten us through 3 little ones.
@@maureen5054 ... guessing you have one of the earlier air cooled sets. (10 - 15 years old now) They commonly used a quart every two days and as they got older (high run hours) it might increase. The current generation has that problem solved and some will run a week before adding oil.
I checked the service manual and the first oil change has to be done at 25 hours and the subsequent oil changes have to be done at 200 hours. At least according to the maintenance schedule. Was there somewhere else that said it needed to be change more often?
@@RealitySurvival ... as I recall, that's the factory recommended service, although they also call for a valve adjustment at 400 hours along with spark plugs. Personally, from 25 years servicing these things, you should do a valve adjustment somewhere around 50 hours and again by 200 hours. At 400 hours intervals they are already running poorly or making noise. Since you need to remove the plugs to do a valve adjustment (finding TDC) you'd be ahead of the game to change plugs at the same time. For most people that will be $10 every few years. No big deal. Gap the plugs at 0.025" instead of the book's 0.035" and it will start easier in cold weather. BTW, tight valves is probably the most common problem with hard starting on these things. Tight valves can also be the curse that makes for early engine failure.
@@RealitySurvival My Generac service guy told me if the Generac is running 24/7 to shut it off every 18-24 hours. And to change the oil every 150-200 hours. I then wrote the following note so I would know exactly what to do:
To turn off: open lid and there is an off button. Take out 7.5 amp fuse. On top of control board there is a circuit breaker switch. Flip that switch off. Let unit cool! You can then take off front panel, using both hands, push up and pull towards you. Oil fill area is orange and check the dip stick. Fill with 10W/30 oil. I was told to check it every 24 hours. Service guy told me how to read the dip stick and how much oil to put in...depending on how much oil is in the unit. You probably know all this, but I shared this info for others to read too. I wrote down everything in case my husband ever gets sick and I have to do it. We also stocked up on a whole lot of oil to get us through a Wis. winter.
I have a Generac all home back up generator that runs on it's own natural gas line. We live in a typical neighborhood with houses next to each other. The Generac is pretty loud when it's running. I feel like it would make us a target (like a gasoline run generator would) during an emergency situation and long term power outage. We have had a few short term power outages here after some storms and the Generac generator kicked on immediately. We also have an EMP Shield that protects both the house and the Generac generator.
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If you have a whole house generator it will be mounted in the 200 amp panel that comes with the generator.
Great setup JJ. Really nice on the 1000 gallon tank. Thank you for the video.
Great Video, I'm installing my new 22kw Generac and your information is very helpful. The only exception, I'm using NG instead of LP. Your installation is clean and tight.
Thanks! Glad it is helpful!
I noticed that the T in the LP line is after the regulator. Is the regulator not necessary for an auxilliary tank on a wet line? Thanks. Great video.
We had a 20KWh Generac installed here in Virginia in December of 2016 12-13. I wish I had known a little more about these I would have gotten the wiring from Ziller I think that is more practical. I asked the installer if we needed a surge protector he told me in the 30 plus years installing he didn't know of anybody or heard of anybody needing one. A year and a half went by and a freak storm somewhere a long the line knocked out both mags, controller, and luckily stopped at that point still a couple thousand dollars. Please do yourself a favor and get a whole house surge protector. Some was covered by insurance. About three weeks after install we had a four hour power failure it was really nice to know that my house had power and was warm to come home to power on. I didn't have mobile link yet but I am glad I got it it is LTE which is cellular. I have seen where this is being phased out and will go all to WiFi soon. We got our installed through Lowe's they made the arrangements and financed it for us for 36 months I a glad we did this. One more thing natural gas runs though my property. I enjoyed you video very detailed thank you. Ed
nec code for 2020 requires all homes have whole house surge protectors. i installed a eaton max with 105k amp hooked to a eaton 50amp breaker.
Great video! I started in the electrical trade in 1999...we installed ALOT of generators as Y2K was on the horizon!
For more backups, you can get a 20 to 25 KW PTO generator for your tractor. I am sure you have a decent supply of diesel fuel. Are you planning on doing a solar setup with battery backup for extended grid down situations?
Interesting idea on the pto genny. Not sure what I am doing with solar yet. I have enough panels to run my wood boiler and pump as is. But may look at getting more in the future. Most likely the next big purchase will be drilling a natural gas well.
@@RealitySurvival Wow. If you can get that, you'll be well on your way to energy independence with heating, and electricity.
@@RealitySurvival Nice plan!
If you recall, I'm a geologist.
What are the chances of hitting a producing formation below your property's footprint? Will it eventually need to be pressurized?
I'm not sure what distance is required from a dwelling to the wellhead and the drying and purifying equipment.
Once installed though, payoff begins immediately.
My understanding is that we are sitting on a huge natural gas pocket. The whole region does. It’s also a dry gas. So it doesn’t need any refinement. Just have to run it through a pressure regulator. At least that is what the neighbor has been told by other farmers in the area who have them. We will see if it works out that way.
@@RealitySurvival The State likely has a database for all of the boreholes that have been drilled. It may take a bit of a search to find the department that provides oversight. Filter for the gas wells, and you can learn the details. Total depth, the length of perforated casing, construction technique and materials, etc. Find several closest to you. It'll give you some idea.
Department of Natural Resources is a good place to start.
Wow I will show this to my husband this is something he is thinking of doing.
Nice tutorial, thanks for sharing 👍
You bet! Glad it was useful.
Great work. Wisconsin made. Love it.
I've wanted one of these for a long time, unfortunately I've got home heating oil (not propane or gas) Glad you got one that's awesome!
At the utility I work for we installed these at our substations for redundant power to our communications system. We installed dedicated 500 gallon propane tanks for them.
If you really want a whole house generator... you can buy or rent an above ground LP tank. Hint: Check Craigs List. (Last year my neighbor advertised had a 1000 gal below ground tank for free to anyone willing to come dig it up and haul it away... he ended up digging it up himself before he found someone to take it)
@@eltonnoway5692 Thank you for the info!
The only reason I could afford to buy our Generac and have it installed is because of an inheritance I got. These things are expensive! When all was said and done, I paid over $7,000.00 for the unit and installation in 2016. But power banks (Jackery, Bluetti, etc.) are great alternatives to keep things running during a power outage and SO much cheaper!
@@maureen5054 Good that you were able to afford it. Definitely gonna look at different options
sweet!
So it’s ok to bypass the propane regulator if you use a smaller tank
Thanks for the great how-to Video, looks like something I can tackle myself and save $ on. This is just what I was looking for.
Glad it was helpful!
I got my generac back in April. Love it.
why would you put the gas shut off valve on the appliance side of the flex pipe? Should go on the steel pipe so you can change the flex hose if needed with only shutting the local valve.
Generac generators are great, I use it one natural gas
I would like to put my Generac on the opposite side of the house from the meter box. The circuit breaker box and gas supply are in the back of the house opposite where the meter is. I have a very ong service cable coming out of the meter box and running to the CBB. Can I just run the long service cable from the meter directly to the transfer switch? The transfer switch would be located next to the CBB as you have it in your video.
I don’t see what not as long as the wire was sized properly. But that will be expensive as copper is very high right now. But just check with an electrician to make sure there isn’t any reason why it would t work for your situation.
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Great informative video. Question: The large wire with the 2 white strips of tape at the bottom of the transfer switch, where does that run to ? Thanks !
I believe that runs to the home breaker box if memory serves.
Thank you fellow Hoosier.
@schustertherooster5132 former Hoosier. :) I moved to New Hampshire not long after this video.
Just curious, what City were you in ?
I was about 10 miles outside of Rushville, IN.
Hey, thanks for this vid!! Very interesting. I was wondering if you have any knwledge of how this generator would work with a geo-thermal heat pump? I know that the power requirements are sigificant to cycle up the system. Thanks!
I’m not sure it would all depend on the power requirements of your system. But if it is an average size unit I would imagine it would run it.
Yes regular power outages, without an EMP shield, what do you have? They are loud and not for long term operation in my opinion
Luckily I had an EMP Shield. 😂
Is the unit shipped oil-filled, or do you need to add it? I apparently missed that part.
Put the oil in a little gas started on the first pull a little noisy but not bad !!
Is there a setting to make it switch over faster? I see other brands switch over in about 10 seconds or less. This was about 20 seconds. Also is there a setting to make it stay on generator longer after power is restored? I see situations such as during a storm where power may be unstable and it could end up switching back and forth several times.
Nope the settings are standard from the factory.
NICE
Thinking of doing a 22kw whole house generac and i was curious on the costs for the electrical? Thanks in advance
Really depends on the electrician. I have had estimates range from $2k to $7k.
How do you install the bottom skirts literally nobody on TH-cam shows that last part
It’s super simple. They just clip in place.
your exhaust is like 3 feet from the door. is that in code? (yes I know its a garage door)
Why did you not install the transfer switch next to the meter outside?
Because I wanted it inside.
Did you run thhn from switch box to panel?
What size was the flexible conduit for the 10 wire cable
Hey could you tell me what regulators you use for the line coming out of your main propane tank? And how would you connect a 100lb tank? Just a normal regulator and a line?
JJ, 2 QUESTIONS - 1)Why does our new generator’s instruction sheet say to keep it 25 feet away from the house? 2) If you have natural gas on your property, can you just pump the natural gas directly into your generator?
No clue on the first one. Second yes basically straight from the well.
25feet away from the house? Are you talking about a "portable" generator or a whole house generator like the one in this video? Check your instructions again again. I couldn't find that requirement in any of Generacs whole house standby generator installation guides. The only reference to 25 feet I could find was in relation to using a Generac "portable" generator with extension cords saying: With a high-capacity 10-gauge wire extension cord you can extend you power as much as 25 feet from your home. Anyway, the following excerpt is per Generac Guidleines:
All standby generator clearance requirements are dictated by the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) code 37. They must be a minimum of five feet from any openings in the walls (i.e., doors,windows, sealed windows. etc.) The minimum distance from the top of the unit is also five feet. Our air-cooled home standby generators require a minimum of 18 inches of clearance from the backside of the generator (where the electric and gas inlets are located) and a minimum of 36 inches of clearance on all other sides (intake ,exhaust and from front side). Generac liquid-cooled home standby generators, as well as CorePower Series and portable units, require a minimum of 36 inches of clearance from any non-combustible surfaces (i.e., concrete, brick, etc.) and a minimum of 60 inches from any combustible surfaces (i.e., vinyl siding , wood. etc.).
@@eltonnoway5692 ... just as a point of order, Generac went to the pains of getting UL approval for fire rating on the air cooled sets to reduce the required distance to combustible materials. That's why you can put one of these closer than a liquid cooled set. Of course that doesn't mean local code can't be more. In my area we have some towns using 5 and 10 feet as their rule.
Great informative video! How many bags of concrete did you use on the pad?
I think 12 or so.
Good informative video
Great video. Looking forward to the video on building the enclosure.
Prolly just going to be a picket fence section and a gate. Nothing too fancy.
Would like to see the wet line setup for the smaller LP tanks please?
maybe a dumb question but how do you recommend getting the generator into backyard if only access is fence gate? is there a dolly that can accomplish this?
Depends on how smooth the path is. If it is smooth you could get a 4 wheeled dolly.
Hurricane Ike, 16 days without power! Only had a 7.5 kw gasoline powered generator.
Better than nothing for sure!
If you hook to regular ng line it won’t work most likely after a hurricane but with a separate tank your in the cat bird seat.
@@leatherneckprepper4477 Why wouldn't it work after a hurricane? We went thru hurricane Fran in North Carolina and were without power for two weeks. Never lost NG not even for a second. Now... an earthquake would be a different issue and could definitely present sent a problem. FACT: In August of 1886, a strong earthquake occurred in Charleston, South Carolina. Magnitude is estimated at 6.8 to 7.2. Much of the city of Charleston was damaged or destroyed. Earthquakes in the East are not confined to these areas; they have been recorded in every State east of the Mississippi. Damaging earthquakes have occurred historically in nearly every eastern State.
@@eltonnoway5692 Maybe I should’ve been more specific if there’s no electricity the normal natural gas lines cannot pump gas to your house which is why I say it would not work. However if you have a tank at your house to feed it with then yes it will work.
Hmmm. Not sure if that is right or not. I’ve been told that the pressure will last quite a while in the NG lines. That is an interesting question.
good video, thanks
Now all you need is a bunch of batteries in the shed, a roof full of solar panels, and a critical load panel. Might as well spend the money now it's getting worth less evey day. Plus the solar will at least give you some instant ROI.
Great video, I didn't catch how much the entire system cost start to finish, permits and everything.
About $7k since my neighbor and I did all of the labor.
@@RealitySurvival Thanks, love to have one but a little too spendy for me, and would be more cause I would have to hire the labor.
Your gas shutoff goes upstream or before the ss flex connector.
There are actually two on my system.
JJ did you look at the cost of renting a tank from one company versus buying your own. It appears you have bought your own. Any tips on where to buy your own? Cost-saving tips?
I did buy mine. I just got it from the company that was providing our propane. I think I paid 2500 for it.
@@RealitySurvival i also bought my tank from my supplier... $1000 or so, it also includes a propane discount..
Thanks so much for a great break down video good job
You are welcome!
What size gas pipe and meter did have to upgrade to???
Just the standard size that the house already has.
Reality Survival,
What do you recommend for 100% duty cycle generators?
Not sure. I haven’t done research on them so far.
@@RealitySurvival
Or generators that run off of solar panels (is that even possible)?
Sure they make solar generators.
@@RealitySurvival
Any recommendations?
No clue
Why didn't you use the emp protection u help sell ?
I did. That video just isn’t uploaded yet.
I also did a video showing how to install one on these generators at my neighbors house as well.
The trick is to connect the generator ONLY to critical areas like where you keep food cold, a room that needs to keep a comfortable temperature for the whole family (goodbye privacy), and a shop where you need to work.
Not with a whole house generator. That is the trick with a portable though.
I figured this wouldn't work with a whole house generator
@@Cenlalowell ... the key to making your fuel last is load reduction and limited run time. If you ration your use then fuel consumption could be less than one gallon per hour. If you ran it only enough to keep your food from spoiling (2 shifts of 6 hours?) and a few other items then you can cut your use to maybe 10 gallons per day.... so almost 100 days on 1,000 gallons if I did that math right. I can't imagine we would have any issue lasting longer than that. OTOH, running central AC would blow that completely away.
@@rupe53 Propane tanks are filled to only 80% of capacity. A 1,000 gallon propane tank will provide only 800 gallons of propane, so you need to plan your usage on that basis.
@@comlbbeau ... I'm well aware of that. I was just using 1000 gallons as an example because someone else used it as their starting point. We can bring my other number down to 80 days if it makes you feel better. Still in all, that's darn close to 3 months if well rationed.
Can you just turn off the main breaker instead of having the power company come out?
No. For this install the power company has to come to shut off the main supply to the meter.
If your not running it full time and only when storms knock the power out for a few hours or a day or so how long will your tank last then?
A long time.
The 22KW Generac will use about 2.5 - 4 gallons per hour (1/2 load to full load). Typically averages about 3 gallons per hour. So figure how much usable propane you have and divide by that. For instance, a 1000 gallon propane tank holds 800 gallons usable. So, on average, about 267 hours of run time on a full 1000 gallon tank.
Yep about 2 weeks. ;)
That’s so cool.
Website for wire information ?
Did you bolt down your generator?
No we didn’t. It was about 450 lbs I think? Too heavy to be easily taken.
Congrats on the big purchase and to each their own but not my cup of tea. Yes a lot easier option to have no doubt but what happens when you have to evac...your leaving a 8grand system. What happens if you dont lose power but your buddy does....cant really move it anywhere. Again good buy if thats what you need
That’s what the other three generator are for. Lol.
@@RealitySurvival ah so this is a primary for the backup to the backup. Sounds like you got it covered then
did you run an 1 1/4 gas line?
I don’t remember for sure to be honest.
@@RealitySurvival just ordered a 22kW Honeywell. Kills me to install it in a subdivision, but better to have than not. Have to work with what you have
14 KW being installed as we speak.
Nice!
Pls how main kg per honrs
I can vouch for people wanting to steal these things. You hear about people stealing AC units all the time for the copper. Where I live people like to steal these whole home generators I had 3 stolen in one year. The very first one that got stolen was the very night after it got installed anf tested and ran its first time got up the next morning to it being gone. I had to secure mine inside a steel cage and anchored with 6in Long x 1/2in wide bolts to a concrete pad.
That utterly sucks. I have a German shepherd/Malinous who will gaurd mine
@@Redlegarty needless to say it totally surprised the hell out of me because even the first one was bolted down to a 4 inch thick prefabbed concrete pad. Cops that come out said that the crew doing it knows exactly what they were doing cause they have managed to steal over 15 of the things in the last 6 months and almost every one of them including mine they managed to pick up the generator still attached to the pad, disconnect the gas line, and all the electrical stuff without making a sound or causing damage to the ground no tracks were left behind. It was like it just vanished into thin air.
Can it run a 2700 square foot house
Well my house was about 3000 sq ft. So I’m sure it could. But it all depends on the actual load that you have.
great share!
Too close to the door. Generac require the generator bw no closer than 60" from any opening such a window, vent, or door. Also, this could be really bad if the doors left open because that side of the generator closet to the door is the exhaust.
It’s not within 60 inches of the door
Pipe your second stg regulator vent outside using pvc.
I like your video very much but if you look at generac’s installation notes it’s very specific about the flex fuel line being straight with no bends in it so as to allow for vibration/movement flex. Otherwise a great video!
Thanks. Since it’s flexible it will still allow for vibration. I don’t see how it could not. I’m sure they may say that but I doubt it will hurt anything. My neighbor has had his for the better part of a year and his is the same way. No issues with his. But I will keep an eye on it.
Reading between the lines on those gas hoses, the notes were specifically for the rubber ones they supplied 5 years ago, but the idea is still the same. Gas flex CAN be used for a slight offset or bend, but should NEVER be used in place of an elbow. The ribbed line we see in the video is what Generac supplies these days.
@@rupe53 very well put!
You can't connect a small propane bottle and run that generator. You need at least a 250 gallon tank so you don't suck all of the vapor out of the tank
I have a shit off valve that will keep from sucking the vapor out of the tank.
@@RealitySurvival how do you plan on knowing when all of the vapor is gone? second thing is the small propane tank will need a regulator. thanks
Cost ?
In total about $7000.
THIS GENERATOR WOULD NOT WORK FOR ME AS I RENT, I DO HAVE ONE THAT I CAN USE WHEN IT'S NEEDED.
It’s always good to be prepared.
My generac doesn’t work when it’s cold out, nice looking but honestly my house lost power twice within the last month.. first time I had mr electric go and change the fluids and a plug(tuneup) second time power went out and it still wouldn’t start up!! Great work mr electric! For $375!! My advice DONT BUY ONE OF THESE PILES OF DOGSHIT!!!!!!!
Did you install the cold weather kit?
These are nice , but they are so expensive, beyond my income level!!
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Really, a Preppers peace of mind? How the heck you going to make you own propane when SHTF? Hey, I have one as well, but I also have a diesel genset that can run from bio-diesel or just about anything else you could make yourself. propane, not so much.
Well The probability of an SHTF situation happening is exceedingly low. That isn’t the primary purpose. The primary purpose is for situations that actually happen in real life. Like power outages due to storms. Real life not fantasy.
I know, I was poking fun at you on the "Preppers Peace of Mind" on the intro but I did see "say prepping for everyday life" and you spell it out clearly in the video. I have the 24kw. With all the power outages now days you pretty much need one and with them adding more and more stuff to the grid the blackouts will probably get worst. I live on the coast and the Hurricanes are always a threat. Being way out in the country means it can be weeks to get power back. Propane availability down in South Texas has been pretty bad over the last year. Nice to have other options. Anyways, enjoyed the video.