This was posted by a Tibetan professor at Emory U. "In Tibetan culture, grandparents often show affection for children by touching foreheads, and noses, caressing cheeks, and lightly pecking the mouth. Grandparents sometimes tease children by showing their tongue and saying, “nge che le za” (eat my tongue) or “nge che le mur,” which literally translates to ‘chew my tongue,’ especially if the child asks for candy or some other treat and the grandparent doesn’t have it. " Esther was 100% correct. Cultual context matters.
The key difference is grandparents to THEIR OWN children. Not somebody else's random child. If that sort of stuff is tolerated within your own culture and family circle, then keep it within that circle. It's gross and strange if you do that to a random child; whether good intent or not.
Are you a reject? There is no cultural exception to pedophilia. Only sickos defend this situation. The Lama is old and probably had a senile moment in which he forgot he was in public and I wouldn't be surprised if we find out he's been taking advantage of little boys for years and has been protected by his status as a spiritual leader.
@@getbuckets4252 Felt the opposite. The Lama's remark could well be problematic, but kneejerk hot-takes only shut down understanding. Across the world there are loads of greeting and friendship practices that to outsiders appear sexual but to locals are not seen as such.
Thank you Esther Perel, for your wisdom and for demonstrating how to think for yourself. I can't tell you how much this means to me as a human in this perilous time of overreaction and rapid fire judgments.
Hmmmm everything was good, EXCEPT the part where she was trying to "rationalize" as to why the dalai lama was sticking out his tounge for a CHILD to suck.
Esther’s podcast might be the first I listen to that came from a Real Time plug. She was easily one of the best guests Bill’s had on the show in recent memory.
I absolutely don’t agree with Esther on the Dali Lama controversy…gross is what he did, and I totally agree with Bill Maher ! It was 100% child abused ! It made want to 🤮just watching it….
I 100% agree with Ester. This is one of the biggest problems we are facing as a society. We all have opinions, and we’re ready to pounce on anyone who is not inline with them. If we all just paused for a moment to consider the full context of a situation we would be a much more thoughtful and kinder society. I am not justifying the statement made by the Dali Lama, I’m speaking in general.
Agree wholeheartedly with you. About the tongue, in Tibetan culture, grandparents would give candy to their grandchild, and when it's gone, it was "i've given all I had, now you'd have to eat my tongue (meaning I have no more to give). Not literally eat my tongue.
She obviously was dodging the last question. Smartly too no matter what her opinion was going to be. But she was intentionally not answering it just due to the repercussions and solely that. Not for any other reason.
Kara sees it one way, David another. I agree 100% with Kara’s take and while technically David is right for saying Esther’s avoiding giving an opinion - she is avoiding giving it - it’s actually for an excellent reason: she says she doesn’t know the context in which the comment was made. Maher is incredibly dismissive of that context and I think it’s ironic that his dismissiveness comes after the conversation they just had on Facism since basically he turns around and says to her “this sounds gross and there’s no other way to see this other than terrible, whatever cultural context it has be damned!” Personally, I think we should all be willing to say “for my culture, that sounds terrible… but that’s not my culture; let me learn more first.” Sounds more like the correct way to be a human on Earth.
You are justifying it! Lol The guy said, "suck my tongue" with his tongue out. Pedophilia doesn't change because a culture embraces it. There are reasons all cultures should not be embraced and respected.
@@littleg6845 no. That’s ridiculous. She avoided the question because she knew the repercussions to making a comment against Buddhism. And there is no cultural acceptance or forgiveness for the comment the Dalai Lama made. Quit making excuses for the comment.
I'm surprised at you, Bill. Ms Perel was trying to explain why she doesn't jump to conclusions without knowing the entire circumstance, and you jumped all over her.
I couldn't agree more. I felt like Bill was being a dick to her at a few instances - albeit he was doing it subtly most of the time. I've always enjoyed watching Bill's show but this is the first time I've felt like he's being a piece of shit.
@@BishopWalters12 That's not what she said! You can't utter your opinions, based on a vague story. She wants to hear the whole story, before she gives an opinion, which is thought out and not just a trigger, coz of the subject. Since we're easily triggered these days and she's a professional, who doesn't just spew her opinions, based on something she knows nothing about!!
Except that doctors are licensed to practice medicine in our western civilization and they must comply with the politics of that licensing body. The relation you are looking to describe exists only in faith because even in religion the church imposes itself between man and god. That pure doctor patience relation is never real but an imaginary language construct.
Esther Perel is easily the best guest on the show this night. She is the daughter of two Holocaust survivors and she went to Hebrew University in Jerusalem. She has something interesting to say about Fascism, but Maher just cuts her off with a flippant, “Preach sister.”
Throughout the show, he appeared a bit intimated or threatened by her poise and intellect. Also seemed disinterested / dismissive when she talked about relationships.
@@steviewanderer I didn't get that at all. I thought he was genuine with her and curious and asked questions when he didn't understand which was helpful to me as a viewer. At the end on the Dalai Lama question he couldn't comprehend why she wouldn't take a stance on the issue and was finally exhausted after asking her to explain unsuccessfully a few times.
Great episode. I really enjoyed the guests' thoughts and reasoning for their views. Esther Perel was very clear in her explanations and sensibility. I've never heard of this lady before, but I'm a fan now.
Esther Perel is very smart, very beautiful and very rational..and that accent, wow. Somebody out there is a very lucky person, Esther is one top class lady. People who carry themselves like that, with no ego are damn fine. Every topic, wisdom.
YES, I did some research on the incident wth the Dalai Lama and it said he translated the "Eat my tongue" incorrectly into English and he was teasing with the boy to kiss him on his cheek and laughed and said "Suck my tongue" The Dalai Lama has apologized publicly and has always been known as someone who jokes around a lot, I think he was saying what they say to little children "Eat my tongue" when they ask for candy,. The optics were not good, but there was more to it as Esther said. Bill could have checked this out in like 3 mins like I did.
Thank you, if only grandpa had done his homework before repeating Chinese propaganda. Funny, he talked about how his show earns their keep and does their job well, then immediatly proved otherwise
Bill get some real facts and context? Dream on. He is the definition of the sophomorism he rails against. And that's the definition of lame, not humor.
Yes it was a cultural quote. The Dalai Llama just translated to English incorrectly. Meant to say “Eat my tongue”. Which is what “Aunties an Uncles” say when they give children candy and there is none left. “ I have none left so you will have to eat my tongue”. It’s a silly cultural joke that Americans don’t understand because we don’t have that saying in our culture.
"The optics were not good" for a reason that this excuse does nothing to absolve or clarify. If the premise is this was some crazy misunderstanding, then why wasn't it immediately halted rather than embraced fully? It's not like this is an isolated incident either (in fact you'll find people doubling down on it as a cultural greeting to be defended prima facie, or prima tongue-y if you will - ok, bad joke), just the first time it was picked up and run with by corporate media outlets - which brings us to the more complete context. Much like the Falun Gong cult (it's no accident their insane propaganda play Shen Yun is advertised to the hilt ubiquitously across the US), the Dalai Lama is a CIA asset funded/supported to cultivate political instability in China and manufacture consent (see: Chomsky/Herman's book of the same title regarding corporate media propaganda filters on reality) for war. Tibet was a sort of beta trial for what we're currently ramping up with Taiwan (which is part of China as per the Shanghai communique agreed to by Nixon in '72 - itself to drive a wedge between China and the USSR, the so-called Sino-Soviet split; "One China" policy is recognized by the US simultaneously while promoting "strategic ambiguity" which is a fancy word for lying, "tactical reneging when convenient" - something the US does as the global hegemon with military omnipresence enforcing its financial empire through the IMF/World Bank established at Bretton-Woods post-WWII cementing the US dollar as the "world reserve currency" using the leverage of being the only nation-state _not_ bombed to shit and taking the imperial baton from the British and their pound sterling). I don't agree with Bill Maher on anything (came here for Daniel Bessner), but on this his reactionary instinct happens to be correct; broken clock and all that jazz.
If she was leagues ahead, she would at least have raised way more concern about a creepy old man asking a child to suck his tongue. She was fine up to that point, when she let herself down badly.
@@biggerissues6085 actually Ester is right. In Tibet, it is a joke grandparents make with grandkids. Its still gross to me, but its not what people think.
@@cyberft he didn't celebrate humans obsession with going to Mars on the contrary he said it just shows how humans are trying to run away from the problems here on Earth instead of trying to deal with them I also like the fact that he didn't defend the Dalai lama's inappropriate actions...
@@celebratelife8436 he seemed like the most idiotic and ideologically possessed. Saying the government should be funding space flight instead of private industry shows incredible ignorance on the topic which Glenn Loury was able to dismiss in
The dali lama discussion was her weakest moment, but I do vaguely,,very- very vaguely, see what she's saying . Nevertheless she seems quite intelligent and was excellent as a guest
Bill is 100% correct on the Starship launch. The fact that it made it off the platform is step one to a completing a final product to move the space exploration possible.
@@siriusintucson I think so too. If you watched her on the opening of Real Time, just saying, she reminds me of Dr. Ruth. Everyone could use a lil more make love not war Dr. Ruth.
News broke on the Dalai Lama asking that boy to suck his tongue on 04/10. It has been 12 days since the event and his spokespeople have failed to provide adequate reasoning. How long must we wait before criticizing a pedophiliac action?
@@anthonyelwick3600 And yet you couldn’t say what actually happened during the incident?? THAT is the kind of thinking, or lack thereof actually, that is spiraling us toward disaster.
I agree, but like many other cultural norms, even when you know it has a history, that doesn't mean you can't condemn it. The same with genital mutilation and keeping boys as dancing sex slaves. Sure, it's a historical cultural norm, so is slightly better than thinking the kid is cute and propositioning him for a tongue suck, but even knowing this, I still condemn it.
They should do that more often. Bill's there to facilitate a conversation with people who are more knowledgeable than he is about specific subjects. The less he does to hijack the conversation and inject his own opinions, the better. He can do that _after_ they're done.
Esther Perel is just plain dumb. If a person can find a doctor who would cut off their leg simply because they wanted it done, should not the government intervene? She's insane.
Love your show. When addressing education why isn't trade schools as important to those that struggle. Give them something that will interest and motivate them. I wasn't good in school and trade school made learning fun and I retired after 30 years still learning.
Great comment. My job went to Mexico, then to China at 55. I took a 13 month LPN course at a county voc school, which cost a total of $3,500. I was able to establish myself in a new career and retired at 70. Much more money should be devoted to vocational training. It's a great pity that the sector took such a bad hit from the for-profit Tech schools that screwed so many people.
one the other side I was good i school and was puched to higher education. I ended up restoring classic cars and working with my hands, i too would have prefered a trade school option.
Your intuition that this would be beneficial for the working class is absolutely correct, but the built-in assumption is that "addressing education" is currently aimed toward that goal (benefitting the working class) rather than any ulterior motives that can be triangulated with some materially grounded historical analysis (aka "historical materialism"; was surprised to see Daniel Bessner on this panel as he is a great communicator in this regard). In other words, "addressing education" *_for whom_* ? Cui bono? This is literally the _only_ question of politics. Spoiler: corporate/finance capital benefits necessarily at the expense of the working class, as their _material_ interests are inherently zero-sum to the material interests of the working class (ie more profit is yielded by paying out less wages to the workers that produce that value to begin with; "surplus value" is extracted from the working class by capital _by definition_ under the mode of production of capitalism). As richiejohnson references, NAFTA pushed these jobs into Mexico (but why? for cheaper labor costs of course) and Deng's opening up to capital in China, launching it to become the economic powerhouse it currently is, distinct from the US as a state-run industrial capitalism ("socialism with Chinese characteristics) as opposed to the now deindustrialized finance capitalism empire enforced by the US (see: rust belt) whose GDP is comprised almost entirely of monopoly rent extraction (rent by definition being value extracted _without_ value produced) by the FIRE sector (finance, insurance, real estate) with a small portion of service sector workers that capital would love to automate away entirely (Fed interest rates increase _intentionally_ to induce a recession in order to reduce hiring - for recent precedent see the Volcker shock - rising unemployment will oblige labor to compete for jobs that pay less and less as the economy slows). It's essentially the optimates dominion of the late Roman empire but with guns and nukes, crushing the populares movements by the Gracchi bros and later Caesar (all murdered by the senate, of which our own is of course a homage to, entirely unaccountable as per initial constitution and purely nominated by state legislatures) for the "authoritarian" threat they posed (to the oligarchy, is the unsaid part of course) by crossing the _actual_ rubicon of debt cancellation and land redistribution to the public (Caesar for purely technical long-term imperial management ie "efficiency" reasons, but still). It's no coincidence the term "tyrant" or "dictator" has been transformed into an ambiguous political cudgel having an extremely negative connotation, the original connotation being in regard to leaders that push back against an oligarchic creditor class (aka "democracy" in contemporary parlance; "authoritarian" being used to reference any state with _any_ sort of capital controls to keep capital in check). As some guy put it like 150+ years ago, , _"the executive of the modern state is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie."_ So what I'm trying to point out here in this book of a comment (sorry lol) is that these decisions are no accident; they are the inevitable outcomes that result from the _material_ logic inherent to capitalism and are political decisions that ensure the global bourgeoisie (capitalist class; ie ownership/employer class as opposed to working/employee class) maintains class dominance both globally and domestically ("free trade" deals like NAFTA intended to remove barriers to capital but conversely _not_ to labor where borders heavily restrict labor market movement). Reminded of Michael Parenti, an excerpt from his piece Mystery: How Wealth Creates Poverty, which highlights this lacuna of class consciousness cultivated under the auspices of global US empire: _"In their perpetual confusion, some liberal critics conclude that foreign aid and IMF and World Bank structural adjustments “do not work”; the end result is less self-sufficiency and more poverty for the recipient nations, they point out. Why then do the rich member states continue to fund the IMF and World Bank? Are their leaders just less intelligent than the critics who keep pointing out to them that their policies are having the opposite effect?_ _No, it is the critics who are stupid not the western leaders and investors who own so much of the world and enjoy such immense wealth and success. They pursue their aid and foreign loan programs because such programs do work. The question is, work for whom? Cui bono?_ _The purpose behind their investments, loans, and aid programs is not to uplift the masses in other countries. That is certainly not the business they are in. The purpose is to serve the interests of global capital accumulation, to take over the lands and local economies of Third World peoples, monopolize their markets, depress their wages, indenture their labor with enormous debts, privatize their public service sector, and prevent these nations from emerging as trade competitors by not allowing them a normal development._ _In these respects, investments, foreign loans, and structural adjustments work very well indeed._ _The real mystery is: why do some people find such an analysis to be so improbable, a “conspiratorial” imagining? Why are they skeptical that U.S. rulers knowingly and deliberately pursue such ruthless policies (suppress wages, rollback environmental protections, eliminate the public sector, cut human services) in the Third World? These rulers are pursuing much the same policies right here in our own country!_ _Isn’t it time that liberal critics stop thinking that the people who own so much of the world---and want to own it all---are “incompetent” or “misguided” or “failing to see the unintended consequences of their policies”? You are not being very smart when you think your enemies are not as smart as you. They know where their interests lie, and so should we."_ _"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."_ - William Casey, -demonic arcon- CIA Director under Reagan To echo Rosa Luxemburg and her Spartacus movement's political call to action from that interwar Germany, before of course being executed by the freikorps paramilitary (later becoming the SS, shocker) at the behest of Ebert's SPD party (the very same party of current chancellor Scholtz, merely continuing to sell out the working class for individual relative bourgeois comfort), almost immediately resonating the truth of such a succinct political dichotomy to this day: *_socialism or_* [continued] *_barbarism._* *TLDR;* It ain't broken, it's fixed. _"The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."_ - some guy again (Marx), a bit optimistic at the end we wouldn't just choose individual delusion while the planet literally burns around us... Sorry for the screed of consciousness lol...
I actually have the answer to the "suck my tongue" issue. It's a bad translation, like if you make a bad translation of some Chinese food names it can come out as "fuck the duck until exploded" etc. - what he MEANT to say was "eat my tongue". The reason for that is, it's a Tibetan tradition for grandparents to get a kiss from their grandkids by putting a bit of candy between their lips and the kid gives their grandparent a kiss and gets a bit of candy. then if the kid asks for more candy there is none, so the grandparent says "eat my tongue" and pokes it out - yes as a joke, nothing more. That is what all of this boils down to, a bad translation and a tradition not widely known outside of Tibet, which made for super weird and bad optics.
@@KB-sv7fm Because nowadays, we have to apologize for everything, even stuff we did as kids. Plus he's a public figure & a very compassionate person, so it makes sense to do it but it wasn't necessary.
@@KB-sv7fm Actually they did but you probably don't read Eastern/Tibetan newspapers or watch their news. You know, you could go to Google and learn about Tibetan traditions. How do you feel about kids sitting on Santa's lap?
It is remarkable how much a contemplative, intelligent woman like Dr. Esther Perel can truly shine light on how ignorant and ridiculous sounding Bill Maher can be at times.
At times? He seems callous and uninformed most of the times. Perfect for an opinion host. It's really the person I want to hear advicr for life and the future for the earth from. All he has to say to the truth is: *looking downed ashamed and hastily and with ironic tone of voice: preach sister! Oh wait... better. Let's get Elon Musk in the boat. The man who appears to have the same mental age as Trump and ask him whether he wants to becoma a pirate or an astronaut when grows up and if he's gonna fly the rocket himself. All the while he might not see the day all of this happens. Realistically. If he cared about the mission itself he wouldn't have to center stage in these projects and they would be set up differently. Just sayin...
Good for you. You also identified Bill's problem. He's salty. I think it should be called incel pensioners or something like that. Being a prick and thinking that makes one popular thereby giving others a stage to shine. So you should blame Bill for that ;) which is a joke of course. She's great
Somehow, I don't see it as an unrealistic or unfair demand or expectation. To me it's more like a special connection that may happen when people have common experiences; enjoy similar things; share similar feelings; are mutually attracted, empathic and respectful; and maybe a lot more. You know it when it's there.
In Ireland we have what’s known as an “Anem Chara”. Which means soul friend. Essentially it just means the one person you can trust completely to share your deepest thoughts and feelings and be assured they will stay with this person forever.
I am fully committed to my soul mate but that doesn't mean matrimony. Personally I don't believe in just one soul mate either. We get together like a house on fire.
I love your beautiful Anem Chara soul friend. Amazingly, I have had two, simultaneously. A 16 year old girl I met in high school (Vicki McQuary), and a phenomenal human being and brilliant artist I couldn’t go one day without talking to). In fact, I couldn’t imagine my world without them in it, or without talking to each of them on the phone every day. I lost them bot, seven days apart. Vicki died on her 34th birthday from a brain aneurysm - I knew it while it was happening. I never have nightmares, let alone recurring ones, but I had three of them in the wee hours of her birthday morning. It was a monster sufficiently terrifying to cause me to awaken screaming. That was on a Saturday. I didn’t find out until Thursday, when her boyfriend found my business card and beeper number. (The last century was ages ago). The following Saturday, I lost Charles. I was so lucky in so many ways. Mostly, I was lucky to be numb for the following six months, because it enabled me to accept a marriage proposal. Three weeks after the wedding, I became pregnant. Again, I became pregnant the very last time I was to see my husband before he left. So, maybe my soul friends sent me love in the cutest form?
@@warfarenotwarfair5655 As though that movie is where the saying came from. Still doesn't make it wrong, especially in this case. Some people do justify why we need IQ testing & standards to vote or breed. Thank you for playing your part. :)
@@erichancock6815 I can assure you my IQ is much higher than yours. You sound like a Boomer with your anti-technology stance and I remember Boomers being wrong in 1994(internet is for weirdos) when the internet started to gain traction. As for IQ tests for voting you are going to have a lot of Democrats not being allowed to vote lol.
Depends on which part of the show you are referring to. When it comes to his segments with Esther for example, I found him to be his typical opinionated obnoxious self.
She is just providing a false pretense as to what makes a relationship "work"....a relationship works until it does not work anymore...some folks are flexible enough to hang in there, some are not.
With regards to Mars, we're focused too much on the final achievement, rather than the process. Why go to the moon? No particular reason other than pushing the boundaries of human possibilities, the process of which has brought us much technological advancements.
It's not just about going to these places or the tech advancement either but to open the door to the next great frontier for human exploration, colonization & industrialization so we can spread this cancerous race off our host planet before we kill it. The universe outside our atmosphere has essentially infinite opportunities.
There's that, but I think we should take care of our own planet first(then perhaps flex our intellectual muscles.) We can create new technologies environmentally. It's good to make your bed before venturing outside into the universe.
@@buckchile614 It’s not an either / or situation. This isn’t binary. Humans can fix climate change AND spread our resources so the species doesn’t die out in a catastrophe. Investing in science has always created a better world and discoveries are not confined to the subject in which they were discovered. Low gravity would help us 3D print human tissue for transplant recipients. Low gravity would allow us to manufacture better fiber optic cables which improve transmission times and reduce cost, allowing lower income areas access to high speed internet. Investing in science, ALL science is what’s best for humanity.
@@buckchile614 If we said that we'd never have made it to the moon. There's always going to be problems on earth. And the way to improve it is to find solutions in ALL areas of research. If you can terraform mars, you can terraform earth back into clean earth. The point is, the answer to fixing earth might be found in the process of preparing for Mars. Innovation happens when we think outside the box, in this case, outside the planet.
@@bdrobe2 there's an 800 mile trench from new york to chicago with fiber optic cable so that stock traders there can save a nano-second to make more money .. clearly a wise choice for technology ..
It’s not too hard to outclass the one-note snarky tone of anything Bill says, but Esther Perel is truly in a class beyond all. A brilliant, thoughtful and gracious person no matter what is thrown at her.
Esther is right about the concept of 'soulmate'. No human being can or should live their lives to totally satisfy someone else. That's why there's such a high incidence of sociopathic narcissists, who demand 'worship' from other human beings.
I don't think soulmate means the same thing to everyone. When I met my husband we felt like we were soulmates because we had so much in common and felt like we were a perfect fit. And we felt like we were meant to be together because of that.
The whole problem with romantic love is that most of the time the person feeling such intense feelings in in love with something they themselves created. You can see this clearly by the breakup/divorce rate. When you find out how wrong your ideal of that other person was you blame them and get out.
AI won't put the music "business" out of business. They will embrace it as fast as they embraced autotune. But the music business will use AI to put musicians out of business, or more accurately, enslave musicians even more than it has to date.
AI won't put the music business out of business. after all the music business has been doing that all by itself. one only has to look at the quality of modern music? too see the answer to that question.
@@user-sr9in2es8b lol you mean out of the vast number of available artists on say iTunes or Spotify, and your loose use of the word “modern”, you haven’t been able to find ONE MUSICIAN you like?! Go play your tri tones you smug tone deaf mute.
I had never heard of Esther Perel before, but my word, do I love her! I'd listen to her all day long - a role model for girls, AND boys everywhere (and women and men too of course!).
The comment about the Dalai Llama “asking a bit to suck his tongue” was in a cultural context. In Tibet it is a custom to give candy to children from the mouth. (Front aunties) Then when there is no more candy the Aunty or Uncle will say, “I have no more candy, you will have to eat my tongue.” It’s said in a joking way. The Dalai Llama translated to English “Suck my tongue” accidentally, rather than “eat my tongue.” I’m glad Esther Perel was so thoughtful in her response.
Looking at the whole episode I confidently can say that Bill here got a needed therapy session by Esther. She opened a new world for him. So curious to know what thinks about that now. That would be a dope Club Random episode 😏
She's like many (usually of a younger generation) that does not like Bill's approach to things. Exactly like in the last segment, that he is judgmental. I somewhat agree with her but in this specific case it is warranted to be judgmental. Another example that matches this is when Bill says that liberals should admit that Islam by definition has a lot of bad ideas. So on the whole, I find myself usually siding with Bill, but can understand that him and I are sometimes the old man saying "get off my lawn".
@@bluceree7312 Bill took a common sense/my eyes are seeing what they are seeing approach and she took a let’s not jump to conclusions/let’s give him the benefit of the doubt approach. Both are understandable to take, but it’s not like taking either approach is going to yield any substantial consequence in the world (at least in the short-run) and that’s why it barely matters. This is that thing people talk about after they talk about the weather.
I think Esther was trying to say that people too often read a headline in the news about a situation from thousands of miles away in a culture they don't understand (many people don't even get passed the headline) and think they have the right to form an uneducated, out of context opinion about it. The only people who should have an opinion about the Dalai Lama situation are the child, the family and the community, etc. One of the worst things that the internet has done to society is giving the average person the impression that their opinion has value about everything in existence, whether they have had any education or experience with it or not. This false impression is, it seems, where cancel culture was borne...
In Tibetan culture, grandparents would give candy to their grandchild, and when it's gone, it was "i've given all I had, now you'd have to eat my tongue (meaning I have no more to give). Not literally eat my tongue. Bill was seeing it from an American viewpoint, obviously narrow, limited.
The music business is vulnerable to being put out of business by AI for one reason. Today's music is formulaic enough for AI to mimic it and pass it off as something the people wrote.
Turns out there is a cultural explanation to the 'suck my tongue' incident. This came out days later in several media, including Politico, I think: In Tibet there is an old tradition of grandparents putting candy in their mouth and then letting their grandchildren take the candy from the grandparent's lips. When the grandparent has no more candy left in their mouth, they will say "now I only have my tongue for you to suck', implying that there is no more candy in their mouth. This is the background for the Dalai Lama to say 'would you like to suck my tongue'? Yes, it sounds a bit weird to me, and I doubt this is a cultural practice that will ever take hold in the west, but I wouldn't accuse this practice of being associated with pedophilia.
Additionally: In most countries sticking out your tongue would be considered a bit rude, but in Tibet it's a way of greeting. It has been a tradition since the 9th century, the time of an unpopular king called Lang Darma, who was known for his black tongue. People in Tibet, thought that the king had been reborn, so to prove they weren't the king, they would show their tongues. The traditional greeting is now a form of respect. SOURCE: BBC Guide: Unusual greetings from around the world Published 7 April 2014
Exactly. You'd think Bill would have heard of this. I'm always surprised by how much he doesn't know. Comes across like a dumb person pretending to be smart.
Or maybe it originally sprang from pedo inclination , back when that wasn't a recognized motivation or thing yet, and simply became accepted. Not saying that's definitely how it came to be, but it's just as plausible as it being from a completely innocent origin, moreso in my opinion. Those inclinations pre-date society recognizing them as such.
But, he wasn't. She was. The Dalai Lama is not some kind of pervert, for God's sake! He was just kidding around with the child. There are cultural issues that we don't understand. Check out Ski Ski's excellent comment on this thread.
@@kitano0 It should be an easy and hard line to draw when it comes to that being grossly inappropriate, and you've just shown, like his guests, that you haven't used any critical thinking or due diligence if telling kids to "s" an adult's tongue passes the vibe check for you, across the board.
@@ncorp2668 Clearly you know nothing about Tibetan culture. In Tibet, the tongue is not sexualized as it is in America. There is a way that Tibetan Grandparents and grandchildren banter and tease. Before you jump to conclusions do some research on Tibetan culture. It's easy. You have internet access. Have you ever done world travel or lived in a radically different culture than what you are used to? Customs are not the same. What is considered grossly inappropriate in one culture could have a radically different meaning in another.
@@motheryuba57 It is seggsual. Just because a culture claims its something else doesn't make it any less so. A lot of cultural norms are pay-dough-fill-ick.
I'm not sure how much more viewership would increase, if at all, but the shows he did during the height of covid sure had a different atmosphere when Bill had no crowds to play to and many of his typical quips fell completely flat. Bill w/o his supportive crowd, interviewing Dan Crenshaw. th-cam.com/video/RTGBJMDcras/w-d-xo.html
Daniel Bessner seems like the epitome of a certain type of contemptible "lives-in-theory-rather-than-reality" academic, and his performance this night was mostly poor to embarrassing. But credit where credit is due, so kudos to him for giving a good answer to the question about "fascism".
Her perspective, which turns the idea of "soulmates" from a romantic one to a religious one is most interesting. . . Makes the whole concept pretty creepy, actually. Didn't realize that people took the term _literally_ Always thought it as more of a figure of speech, myself. (Also, it would have been nice if Maher let her finish at least one god damn sentence on that last question rather than just railroading over her.)
Well, the perspective is that it is a religious one isn’t her idea, it’s what it was before modern western people applied the context of “perfection” towards someone
@@acbower4468 Makes sense to me. I've slowly come to learn that the west transfigures most things into religion in some way. (Also, the idea of perfectionism in a relationship is actually terrifying. . .)
If you believed that the soul has a separate energy from the physical form and that travels from lifetime to lifetime, it's not too much of a stretch that soul energies that bonded in one life could find their way back to bond again in another life.
I so enjoyed listening to her. I am a psychologist of 25 years. Her presentation is really focused on why being impulsive and judgmental is so counterproductive to our understanding. People are so accustomed to the flippancy that is constantly injected into interpretation of events they are thrown off when a clear contemplative, rational approach is used. Now this is a live show and we are here for the laughs but she shows her sharp intellect, compassion and her training. When we use careful analysis of the more complete picture it is possible to appreciate nuance and complexity that is apart from the black and white duality/simplicity which largely doesn’t not serve us well with problem solving and understanding. There is always more to the equation than you know.
Love how sensible the lady was abt the Dalai Lama question, and Bill on this one showed the shallowness of an American TV host on seeing various aspects before jumping into conclusion about things....
Bill has an arrogance about him that was really shining near the end of this vid. The Lady was totally correct in saying that we shouldn't jump to conclusions. This kind of reaction is what can cause the "flip" within one year, and the feared "Facists" to easily move in. Remember, Bill, you have to listen more than talk, to Learn!🧐😎
There's no good way to let the Dali Lama off the hook just as there is no way to let the Catholic church. Religion does not get a pass on unacceptable behavior just because it is powerful. The Supreme Court the same. The truism holds: Absolute power corrupts absolutely. That's why we have laws.
@@windycityliz7711 Not the boy but the men in the priesthood who raised him, surround him and govern him and hold absolute power over him and believers.
@@hopeemch8511 I have been Buddhist for decades and have known several Tibetans (refugees) - extremely kind & positive people despite all they have been through. The hierarchy you describe is a product of your imagination.
Bill MaherI I thought you were much more flexible and open. I totally agree with Esther Perel, we cannot jump to conclusions without knowing the context, celebration, culture, etc. How you reacted in these cases is exactly what the mass media do every day, handling single "truths" without taking account of the context. The more tabloid the press is, the more superficial, irrational and deceitful it is.
The Dali Lama has apologized. He stuck his tongue out and the kid did the same. It was meant to be a joke that landed poorly. If anyone should be able to understand a joke landing poorly Bill Maher certainly should! He has done that many, many, many times!
So you're saying the sucking the tongue thing was completely made up by someone else to make him look bad..? Either you or Bill is missing something apparently
@@paulthaipaul9946 No. He said it. He meant it to come off as funny. Like Bite me. It just came out very wrong. He certainly did not mean it in a sexual way. He chose his words badly.
@Dianne Im not saying the Dalai lama meant anything he did in a sexual way. Likely (and hopefully) not, and most people should give him the benefit of the doubt as a respected older person. But the tradition with the grandparents' tongue and the candy could have originally sprang from a pedo inclination, back when those inclinations (and others like domestic abuse, rape etc) simply were not recognized and widely tolerated. Also, we're not just talking about what he said, but what we see him do on the video as well. Its been widely explained in the aftermath of the video going viral that there's an old "tradition" of grandparents offering their tongues when the candy is gone. Fine,.no doubt. One can say this old tradition originated from a totally innocent place, but some might think otherwise, sorry. Again, I'm not saying he meant anything bad, just that the tradition might have come from a bad place unbeknownst to him or other well meaning old folks.
Regardless of what we decide to do with AI, we being the west China and Russia certainly aren't going to live up to any agreement. And then where are we?
Even the companies related to the ones calling for a pause, are not going to cease development, just delay the releases. So after some 6 month hold, will just see what is likely to another generational leap, which may be worse than seeing the evolution in, um real time.
China and Russia do not act in concert, have different social structures, different economic approaches and very different histories. It is no longer a dipolar world. When Americans learn this, then perhaps you would not jump to confrontation. (By the way, the best coders in the former USSR are probably in Ukraine.)
Even if they create some form of token oversight, here & abroad, the ruling class will continue to develop & weaponize it like every other similar advancement based on the tried & true "We must do it before they do it.". CRISPR is a great example where even Vlad said such a new advancement would be far more dangerous to the world than nuclear, but you can bet Russia & everyone else has continued to research & develop DNA manipulation, which- like every other example listed- could be the end of us once it gets out of hand. It's just another Pandora's box that we can't stop ourselves from opening.
You're right. The genie's not going back into the bottle. This is deciding to build a nuclear bomb on steroids. "Man's created its own doom; first step was touching the Moon"--Bob Dylan(paraphrasing.)
@@KB-sv7fm It wasn't necessary but because he's a public figure and a cultural tradition stirred up such controversy, unfortunately, it was appropriate to apologize. Should we be apologizing for kids sitting on Santa's lap?
This was posted by a Tibetan professor at Emory U. "In Tibetan culture, grandparents often show affection for children by touching foreheads, and noses, caressing cheeks, and lightly pecking the mouth. Grandparents sometimes tease children by showing their tongue and saying, “nge che le za” (eat my tongue) or “nge che le mur,” which literally translates to ‘chew my tongue,’ especially if the child asks for candy or some other treat and the grandparent doesn’t have it. " Esther was 100% correct. Cultual context matters.
Thank you for sharing this. Esther was 100% correct that we didn't have the whole story.
Thank you.
@@linguaphile42 winner winner chicken dinner 👍 you should have been on my TX All white jury, while back. It wd hv bn 10-2 instead of 11-1 hang him
The key difference is grandparents to THEIR OWN children. Not somebody else's random child. If that sort of stuff is tolerated within your own culture and family circle, then keep it within that circle. It's gross and strange if you do that to a random child; whether good intent or not.
Are you a reject? There is no cultural exception to pedophilia. Only sickos defend this situation. The Lama is old and probably had a senile moment in which he forgot he was in public and I wouldn't be surprised if we find out he's been taking advantage of little boys for years and has been protected by his status as a spiritual leader.
I like Esther Perel. She's very thoughtful and the answers she gave were rooted in both practicality and compassion. I'm gonna look for her books.
She's the successor to Dr. Ruth Westheimer. I almost said she was Dr. Ruth reincarnated, but the original is still kicking at age 94!
Go ahead pedoenabler.
Highly recommend her books. She is an extraordinarily intelligent person and has an incredibly evolved take on relationships.
I was with her until the tongue comments, she needs more context? That is some sick shit
@@getbuckets4252 Felt the opposite. The Lama's remark could well be problematic, but kneejerk hot-takes only shut down understanding. Across the world there are loads of greeting and friendship practices that to outsiders appear sexual but to locals are not seen as such.
Thank you Esther Perel, for your wisdom and for demonstrating how to think for yourself. I can't tell you how much this means to me as a human in this perilous time of overreaction and rapid fire judgments.
Thank you Lauri Mas. I completely agree!
Bill Maher really should allow the invitees to speak. As much as I respect his knowledge, his judgmental mindset makes him very annoying.
I agree. He disrespected her and demonstrated clearly his annoying judgemental mindset.
@@VanMtlKat Im sure you all are perfect and never judge anyone.
I love how Esther addresses questions, a proper way to analyze
She does possess a lot of wisdom
Hmmmm everything was good, EXCEPT the part where she was trying to "rationalize" as to why the dalai lama was sticking out his tounge for a CHILD to suck.
The problem is, when politics smell money...well you know the rest.😡
Seems like she was dodging from answering that last question. She knows she runs the chance of being vilified online.
LOL, she was a coward
Esther’s podcast might be the first I listen to that came from a Real Time plug. She was easily one of the best guests Bill’s had on the show in recent memory.
she sounded really dumb here
Concur. His equal+, articulate and intelligent af. Thx!
I absolutely don’t agree with Esther on the Dali Lama controversy…gross is what he did, and I totally agree with Bill Maher ! It was 100% child abused ! It made want to 🤮just watching it….
@@sunflower-oo1ff agree with you, however, that doesn't negate her other positive hypotheses. Love her. Christian much? JS PEACE 💜
....except the part where she refused to denounce a pedo
Esther Perel shows a depth of insight and an uncommon wisdom.
How great a guest is Esther Perel!!!? A master of good conversation, I say.
And she did it as what sounds like a non-native English speaker.
I 100% agree with Ester. This is one of the biggest problems we are facing as a society. We all have opinions, and we’re ready to pounce on anyone who is not inline with them. If we all just paused for a moment to consider the full context of a situation we would be a much more thoughtful and kinder society. I am not justifying the statement made by the Dali Lama, I’m speaking in general.
Agree wholeheartedly with you. About the tongue, in Tibetan culture, grandparents would give candy to their grandchild, and when it's gone, it was "i've given all I had, now you'd have to eat my tongue (meaning I have no more to give). Not literally eat my tongue.
She obviously was dodging the last question. Smartly too no matter what her opinion was going to be. But she was intentionally not answering it just due to the repercussions and solely that. Not for any other reason.
Kara sees it one way, David another. I agree 100% with Kara’s take and while technically David is right for saying Esther’s avoiding giving an opinion - she is avoiding giving it - it’s actually for an excellent reason: she says she doesn’t know the context in which the comment was made. Maher is incredibly dismissive of that context and I think it’s ironic that his dismissiveness comes after the conversation they just had on Facism since basically he turns around and says to her “this sounds gross and there’s no other way to see this other than terrible, whatever cultural context it has be damned!”
Personally, I think we should all be willing to say “for my culture, that sounds terrible… but that’s not my culture; let me learn more first.” Sounds more like the correct way to be a human on Earth.
You are justifying it! Lol The guy said, "suck my tongue" with his tongue out. Pedophilia doesn't change because a culture embraces it. There are reasons all cultures should not be embraced and respected.
@@littleg6845 no. That’s ridiculous. She avoided the question because she knew the repercussions to making a comment against Buddhism. And there is no cultural acceptance or forgiveness for the comment the Dalai Lama made. Quit making excuses for the comment.
I'm surprised at you, Bill. Ms Perel was trying to explain why she doesn't jump to conclusions without knowing the entire circumstance, and you jumped all over her.
Do so without interrupting or telling your guests what they’re saying.
My thoughts exactly. It felt rude. Her point was very important.
I couldn't agree more. I felt like Bill was being a dick to her at a few instances - albeit he was doing it subtly most of the time. I've always enjoyed watching Bill's show but this is the first time I've felt like he's being a piece of shit.
Why are you surprised? It's well known that he's arrogant, patronizing and judgmental.
Esther was very intelligent and nuanced. We need more of that in our public debate.
She is cool with the Dalai Lama. That is intelligent?
@@BishopWalters12 The irony is staggering
@@TheAlibabatree Don't fear the truth.
@@BishopWalters12 That's not what she said! You can't utter your opinions, based on a vague story. She wants to hear the whole story, before she gives an opinion, which is thought out and not just a trigger, coz of the subject. Since we're easily triggered these days and she's a professional, who doesn't just spew her opinions, based on something she knows nothing about!!
LMAO
I agree with Dr Perel, the decision should only be between the patient and her doctor.
Thank you
Except politics enter into end of life decisions, treating kids, all sorts of stuff.
Except that doctors are licensed to practice medicine in our western civilization and they must comply with the politics of that licensing body. The relation you are looking to describe exists only in faith because even in religion the church imposes itself between man and god. That pure doctor patience relation is never real but an imaginary language construct.
Ester Perel was the person with consistent answers to the questions
Esther Perel is easily the best guest on the show this night. She is the daughter of two Holocaust survivors and she went to Hebrew University in Jerusalem. She has something interesting to say about Fascism, but Maher just cuts her off with a flippant, “Preach sister.”
She was done speaking when he said that.
Throughout the show, he appeared a bit intimated or threatened by her poise and intellect. Also seemed disinterested / dismissive when she talked about relationships.
Nuh
@@steviewanderer I didn't get that at all. I thought he was genuine with her and curious and asked questions when he didn't understand which was helpful to me as a viewer. At the end on the Dalai Lama question he couldn't comprehend why she wouldn't take a stance on the issue and was finally exhausted after asking her to explain unsuccessfully a few times.
i get it and yea she is brilliant. maher has a comedy / entertainment show to run.
Great episode. I really enjoyed the guests' thoughts and reasoning for their views. Esther Perel was very clear in her explanations and sensibility. I've never heard of this lady before, but I'm a fan now.
Esther Perel is very smart, very beautiful and very rational..and that accent, wow. Somebody out there is a very lucky person, Esther is one top class lady. People who carry themselves like that, with no ego are damn fine. Every topic, wisdom.
Dr Esther Perel knows the truth ! Very intelligent lady !
Except for tongue sucking
Hot too
You also defend the Dalai Lama? You libs are weird.
She doesn't seem to know that a grown man asking a child to suck their tongue is the very definition of a pedo tho so....
@@glhmedic She's 65. I think Maher is a bit intimidated by a woman his age, who looks so good.
I like how Maher’s audiences never knows why they’re clapping
No they know, you just might know why they're are at certain points.
All live taped shows have an applause sign that signals when to applaud.
@@davidbelway6076 or a show runner.
they are idiotic.
@@davidbelway6076 Bill Maher as far as I'm aware has never had one
Thank you for having Esther! Absolutely love her
YES, I did some research on the incident wth the Dalai Lama and it said he translated the "Eat my tongue" incorrectly into English and he was teasing with the boy to kiss him on his cheek and laughed and said "Suck my tongue" The Dalai Lama has apologized publicly and has always been known as someone who jokes around a lot, I think he was saying what they say to little children "Eat my tongue" when they ask for candy,. The optics were not good, but there was more to it as Esther said. Bill could have checked this out in like 3 mins like I did.
Thank you, if only grandpa had done his homework before repeating Chinese propaganda. Funny, he talked about how his show earns their keep and does their job well, then immediatly proved otherwise
Bill get some real facts and context? Dream on. He is the definition of the sophomorism he rails against. And that's the definition of lame, not humor.
Yes it was a cultural quote. The Dalai Llama just translated to English incorrectly. Meant to say “Eat my tongue”. Which is what “Aunties an Uncles” say when they give children candy and there is none left. “ I have none left so you will have to eat my tongue”. It’s a silly cultural joke that Americans don’t understand because we don’t have that saying in our culture.
"The optics were not good" for a reason that this excuse does nothing to absolve or clarify. If the premise is this was some crazy misunderstanding, then why wasn't it immediately halted rather than embraced fully? It's not like this is an isolated incident either (in fact you'll find people doubling down on it as a cultural greeting to be defended prima facie, or prima tongue-y if you will - ok, bad joke), just the first time it was picked up and run with by corporate media outlets - which brings us to the more complete context.
Much like the Falun Gong cult (it's no accident their insane propaganda play Shen Yun is advertised to the hilt ubiquitously across the US), the Dalai Lama is a CIA asset funded/supported to cultivate political instability in China and manufacture consent (see: Chomsky/Herman's book of the same title regarding corporate media propaganda filters on reality) for war. Tibet was a sort of beta trial for what we're currently ramping up with Taiwan (which is part of China as per the Shanghai communique agreed to by Nixon in '72 - itself to drive a wedge between China and the USSR, the so-called Sino-Soviet split; "One China" policy is recognized by the US simultaneously while promoting "strategic ambiguity" which is a fancy word for lying, "tactical reneging when convenient" - something the US does as the global hegemon with military omnipresence enforcing its financial empire through the IMF/World Bank established at Bretton-Woods post-WWII cementing the US dollar as the "world reserve currency" using the leverage of being the only nation-state _not_ bombed to shit and taking the imperial baton from the British and their pound sterling).
I don't agree with Bill Maher on anything (came here for Daniel Bessner), but on this his reactionary instinct happens to be correct; broken clock and all that jazz.
Ester is leagues beyond the people at that table. Context and patience is a lost art and she’s somehow mastering it.
If she was leagues ahead, she would at least have raised way more concern about a creepy old man asking a child to suck his tongue.
She was fine up to that point, when she let herself down badly.
@@biggerissues6085 actually Ester is right. In Tibet, it is a joke grandparents make with grandkids. Its still gross to me, but its not what people think.
@@biggerissues6085 If you don’t know the context, don’t judge
Guess you’re unfamiliar with Glen Loury
@@user-ye6yo4sp2f A bit of an explanation would be nice
Glenn and Esther? Thanks for bringing together such great people ... wish we had more shows like this one.
No more of that horrible and disgusting people , why did they defend the sick child molester "his holiness" Dalai Lama?.....Pedophiles indeed
What about the other guy?
@@cyberft the other guy seemed like the most level-headed and rational IMO ... What did you think 🤔💬
@@cyberft he didn't celebrate humans obsession with going to Mars on the contrary he said it just shows how humans are trying to run away from the problems here on Earth instead of trying to deal with them I also like the fact that he didn't defend the Dalai lama's inappropriate actions...
@@celebratelife8436 he seemed like the most idiotic and ideologically possessed. Saying the government should be funding space flight instead of private industry shows incredible ignorance on the topic which Glenn Loury was able to dismiss in
Esther Perel is pure gold. On every subject.
The dali lama discussion was her weakest moment, but I do vaguely,,very- very vaguely, see what she's saying . Nevertheless she seems quite intelligent and was excellent as a guest
She also has earned and deserves much more of a title than "sex therapist", Bill!!! Sent with love, EXCELLENT GUEST---please have her back again!!!
pure gold? A good piece of lumber maybe.
Fools gold maybe, making excuses for the Diddley-Lama?
Every subject?
This woman knows how to "communicate" Effectively.
Yeah, love it how she defends pedophilia.
She sure did "communicate" her outward defense of a pedo
Bill is 100% correct on the Starship launch. The fact that it made it off the platform is step one to a completing a final product to move the space exploration possible.
Esther, speak it sister!👍
The new Dr. Ruth.
@@notme2day , she seems very thoughtful, knowledgeable, and not quick to jump to conclusions.👍
I am very impressed with her
@@siriusintucson I think so too. If you watched her on the opening of Real Time, just saying, she reminds me of Dr. Ruth. Everyone could use a lil more make love not war Dr. Ruth.
She lost me when she was trying to defend the Dalai Lama 's pedo action.
The doctor is 100% correct about waiting until you know full facts and context BEFORE opining.
No she's disgusting. There is no reason that it's okay for him to ask the kid that.
News broke on the Dalai Lama asking that boy to suck his tongue on 04/10. It has been 12 days since the event and his spokespeople have failed to provide adequate reasoning.
How long must we wait before criticizing a pedophiliac action?
@@anthonyelwick3600 And yet you couldn’t say what actually happened during the incident?? THAT is the kind of thinking, or lack thereof actually, that is spiraling us toward disaster.
Nah, in any culture no child should be sucking anyone’s tongue. It’s disgusting pedo behavior. Not surprising the dems cheer it on
I agree, but like many other cultural norms, even when you know it has a history, that doesn't mean you can't condemn it. The same with genital mutilation and keeping boys as dancing sex slaves. Sure, it's a historical cultural norm, so is slightly better than thinking the kid is cute and propositioning him for a tongue suck, but even knowing this, I still condemn it.
What that lady said about soul mates blew my mind.
Nothing Ram Dass hasn't said for 60 years.
I could watch a show just with Ms. Perel speaking very articulate lady.
Yeah right,especially on that last part about possible excuses for Dalai Lama,she really made herself look stupid.
@@Z4N7 No excuses. I actually thought she sounded like the smartest person there.
@@pjennings72 and think she brings up a good point something can look bad and you can affirm it to be sure if it is but never to jump in ignorantly.
@@freethoughts2898 Yeah,maga people also think Trump is smart,but it doesn't mean they are correct...
Love the episodes when the guests push back on Bill
They all feel like individuals - refreshing! 😂👏
They should do that more often. Bill's there to facilitate a conversation with people who are more knowledgeable than he is about specific subjects. The less he does to hijack the conversation and inject his own opinions, the better. He can do that _after_ they're done.
Esther Perel is just plain dumb. If a person can find a doctor who would cut off their leg simply because they wanted it done, should not the government intervene? She's insane.
Love your show. When addressing education why isn't trade schools as important to those that struggle. Give them something that will interest and motivate them. I wasn't good in school and trade school made learning fun and I retired after 30 years still learning.
Great comment. My job went to Mexico, then to China at 55.
I took a 13 month LPN course at a county voc school, which cost a total of $3,500. I was able to establish myself in a new career and retired at 70.
Much more money should be devoted to vocational training. It's a great pity that the sector took such a bad hit from the for-profit Tech schools that screwed so many people.
one the other side I was good i school and was puched to higher education. I ended up restoring classic cars and working with my hands, i too would have prefered a trade school option.
Your intuition that this would be beneficial for the working class is absolutely correct, but the built-in assumption is that "addressing education" is currently aimed toward that goal (benefitting the working class) rather than any ulterior motives that can be triangulated with some materially grounded historical analysis (aka "historical materialism"; was surprised to see Daniel Bessner on this panel as he is a great communicator in this regard).
In other words, "addressing education" *_for whom_* ? Cui bono? This is literally the _only_ question of politics. Spoiler: corporate/finance capital benefits necessarily at the expense of the working class, as their _material_ interests are inherently zero-sum to the material interests of the working class (ie more profit is yielded by paying out less wages to the workers that produce that value to begin with; "surplus value" is extracted from the working class by capital _by definition_ under the mode of production of capitalism).
As richiejohnson references, NAFTA pushed these jobs into Mexico (but why? for cheaper labor costs of course) and Deng's opening up to capital in China, launching it to become the economic powerhouse it currently is, distinct from the US as a state-run industrial capitalism ("socialism with Chinese characteristics) as opposed to the now deindustrialized finance capitalism empire enforced by the US (see: rust belt) whose GDP is comprised almost entirely of monopoly rent extraction (rent by definition being value extracted _without_ value produced) by the FIRE sector (finance, insurance, real estate) with a small portion of service sector workers that capital would love to automate away entirely (Fed interest rates increase _intentionally_ to induce a recession in order to reduce hiring - for recent precedent see the Volcker shock - rising unemployment will oblige labor to compete for jobs that pay less and less as the economy slows).
It's essentially the optimates dominion of the late Roman empire but with guns and nukes, crushing the populares movements by the Gracchi bros and later Caesar (all murdered by the senate, of which our own is of course a homage to, entirely unaccountable as per initial constitution and purely nominated by state legislatures) for the "authoritarian" threat they posed (to the oligarchy, is the unsaid part of course) by crossing the _actual_ rubicon of debt cancellation and land redistribution to the public (Caesar for purely technical long-term imperial management ie "efficiency" reasons, but still). It's no coincidence the term "tyrant" or "dictator" has been transformed into an ambiguous political cudgel having an extremely negative connotation, the original connotation being in regard to leaders that push back against an oligarchic creditor class (aka "democracy" in contemporary parlance; "authoritarian" being used to reference any state with _any_ sort of capital controls to keep capital in check). As some guy put it like 150+ years ago, , _"the executive of the modern state is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie."_
So what I'm trying to point out here in this book of a comment (sorry lol) is that these decisions are no accident; they are the inevitable outcomes that result from the _material_ logic inherent to capitalism and are political decisions that ensure the global bourgeoisie (capitalist class; ie ownership/employer class as opposed to working/employee class) maintains class dominance both globally and domestically ("free trade" deals like NAFTA intended to remove barriers to capital but conversely _not_ to labor where borders heavily restrict labor market movement).
Reminded of Michael Parenti, an excerpt from his piece Mystery: How Wealth Creates Poverty, which highlights this lacuna of class consciousness cultivated under the auspices of global US empire:
_"In their perpetual confusion, some liberal critics conclude that foreign aid and IMF and World Bank structural adjustments “do not work”; the end result is less self-sufficiency and more poverty for the recipient nations, they point out. Why then do the rich member states continue to fund the IMF and World Bank? Are their leaders just less intelligent than the critics who keep pointing out to them that their policies are having the opposite effect?_
_No, it is the critics who are stupid not the western leaders and investors who own so much of the world and enjoy such immense wealth and success. They pursue their aid and foreign loan programs because such programs do work. The question is, work for whom? Cui bono?_
_The purpose behind their investments, loans, and aid programs is not to uplift the masses in other countries. That is certainly not the business they are in. The purpose is to serve the interests of global capital accumulation, to take over the lands and local economies of Third World peoples, monopolize their markets, depress their wages, indenture their labor with enormous debts, privatize their public service sector, and prevent these nations from emerging as trade competitors by not allowing them a normal development._
_In these respects, investments, foreign loans, and structural adjustments work very well indeed._
_The real mystery is: why do some people find such an analysis to be so improbable, a “conspiratorial” imagining? Why are they skeptical that U.S. rulers knowingly and deliberately pursue such ruthless policies (suppress wages, rollback environmental protections, eliminate the public sector, cut human services) in the Third World? These rulers are pursuing much the same policies right here in our own country!_
_Isn’t it time that liberal critics stop thinking that the people who own so much of the world---and want to own it all---are “incompetent” or “misguided” or “failing to see the unintended consequences of their policies”? You are not being very smart when you think your enemies are not as smart as you. They know where their interests lie, and so should we."_
_"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."_ - William Casey, -demonic arcon- CIA Director under Reagan
To echo Rosa Luxemburg and her Spartacus movement's political call to action from that interwar Germany, before of course being executed by the freikorps paramilitary (later becoming the SS, shocker) at the behest of Ebert's SPD party (the very same party of current chancellor Scholtz, merely continuing to sell out the working class for individual relative bourgeois comfort), almost immediately resonating the truth of such a succinct political dichotomy to this day:
*_socialism or_* [continued] *_barbarism._*
*TLDR;* It ain't broken, it's fixed.
_"The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."_ - some guy again (Marx), a bit optimistic at the end we wouldn't just choose individual delusion while the planet literally burns around us...
Sorry for the screed of consciousness lol...
She is so good. Have her back.
I actually have the answer to the "suck my tongue" issue. It's a bad translation, like if you make a bad translation of some Chinese food names it can come out as "fuck the duck until exploded" etc. - what he MEANT to say was "eat my tongue". The reason for that is, it's a Tibetan tradition for grandparents to get a kiss from their grandkids by putting a bit of candy between their lips and the kid gives their grandparent a kiss and gets a bit of candy. then if the kid asks for more candy there is none, so the grandparent says "eat my tongue" and pokes it out - yes as a joke, nothing more. That is what all of this boils down to, a bad translation and a tradition not widely known outside of Tibet, which made for super weird and bad optics.
Why did the Dalai Lama apologize ?
@@KB-sv7fm Because nowadays, we have to apologize for everything, even stuff we did as kids. Plus he's a public figure & a very compassionate person, so it makes sense to do it but it wasn't necessary.
@@HolisticPeacenik He isn’t God. It was necessary. I don’t see many of the locals defending EXACTLY what he did.
@@KB-sv7fm Actually they did but you probably don't read Eastern/Tibetan newspapers or watch their news. You know, you could go to Google and learn about Tibetan traditions. How do you feel about kids sitting on Santa's lap?
@@HolisticPeacenik Asking little boys to suck your tongue is a tradition ? I don’t believe he apologized for no reason.
Big fan of Glenn Loury work and podcast. Glad to see him on Bill Maher
Bill, take a remedial course in active listening. 😊
It is remarkable how much a contemplative, intelligent woman like Dr. Esther Perel can truly shine light on how ignorant and ridiculous sounding Bill Maher can be at times.
Bill has always been anti religion
At times? He seems callous and uninformed most of the times. Perfect for an opinion host. It's really the person I want to hear advicr for life and the future for the earth from. All he has to say to the truth is: *looking downed ashamed and hastily and with ironic tone of voice: preach sister! Oh wait... better. Let's get Elon Musk in the boat. The man who appears to have the same mental age as Trump and ask him whether he wants to becoma a pirate or an astronaut when grows up and if he's gonna fly the rocket himself. All the while he might not see the day all of this happens. Realistically. If he cared about the mission itself he wouldn't have to center stage in these projects and they would be set up differently. Just sayin...
And I don't know is for that reason but is the first time ever I found a 65yo woman attractive to me, I'm 30 years younger... 😧
Good for you. You also identified Bill's problem. He's salty. I think it should be called incel pensioners or something like that. Being a prick and thinking that makes one popular thereby giving others a stage to shine. So you should blame Bill for that ;) which is a joke of course. She's great
I love Bill Maher and his show. Great, quick humor and always good guests like Perel.
I love what Esther Perrel said about soul mates and expecting that from a partner.
Somehow, I don't see it as an unrealistic or unfair demand or expectation. To me it's more like a special connection that may happen when people have common experiences; enjoy similar things; share similar feelings; are mutually attracted, empathic and respectful; and maybe a lot more. You know it when it's there.
In Ireland we have what’s known as an “Anem Chara”. Which means soul friend. Essentially it just means the one person you can trust completely to share your deepest thoughts and feelings and be assured they will stay with this person forever.
I am fully committed to my soul mate but that doesn't mean matrimony. Personally I don't believe in just one soul mate either. We get together like a house on fire.
I like the sound of that
Am Irish. Never heard of it.
@@irish7summits Then like me, you just learned something new.
I love your beautiful Anem Chara soul friend. Amazingly, I have had two, simultaneously. A 16 year old girl I met in high school (Vicki McQuary), and a phenomenal human being and brilliant artist I couldn’t go one day without talking to). In fact, I couldn’t imagine my world without them in it, or without talking to each of them on the phone every day. I lost them bot, seven days apart. Vicki died on her 34th birthday from a brain aneurysm - I knew it while it was happening. I never have nightmares, let alone recurring ones, but I had three of them in the wee hours of her birthday morning. It was a monster sufficiently terrifying to cause me to awaken screaming. That was on a Saturday. I didn’t find out until Thursday, when her boyfriend found my business card and beeper number. (The last century was ages ago). The following Saturday, I lost Charles.
I was so lucky in so many ways. Mostly, I was lucky to be numb for the following six months, because it enabled me to accept a marriage proposal. Three weeks after the wedding, I became pregnant. Again, I became pregnant the very last time I was to see my husband before he left. So, maybe my soul friends sent me love in the cutest form?
AI reminds me of Jurassic Park, “Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should!”
No you should, you watch too many movies. It's best you are not allowed to vote 🤣
We need the "Turing police" to stop AIs from getting loose on the internet.
@@warfarenotwarfair5655 As though that movie is where the saying came from. Still doesn't make it wrong, especially in this case. Some people do justify why we need IQ testing & standards to vote or breed. Thank you for playing your part. :)
@@erichancock6815 I can assure you my IQ is much higher than yours. You sound like a Boomer with your anti-technology stance and I remember Boomers being wrong in 1994(internet is for weirdos) when the internet started to gain traction. As for IQ tests for voting you are going to have a lot of Democrats not being allowed to vote lol.
@@warfarenotwarfair5655 says the AI bot?
This week Bill seemed more awake and thoughtful than usual. I enjoyed watching him.
And I thought his panel was a little reluctant to jump in.
Depends on which part of the show you are referring to. When it comes to his segments with Esther for example, I found him to be his typical opinionated obnoxious self.
@@ChrisAlbertH47
I don’t even watch him anymore. I used to watch faithfully. He’s been changed for awhile now.
Before people die they light up and are extremely awake for a short time.
@@robertacolarette1594 But you just watched this video, right
Esther is fantastic -- I hope you guys have her on a lot more. ty.
Esther is EXACTLY right about making sure of situations before judging them
yep, DL could have been joking
@@savage_skirt5386 Something tells me everyone caught by Chris Hanson initiates first with "it was just a joke, bro!"
@@atgrandfathersknee3065 haha true but even so, never know
Glenn Loury is such a great thinker. I wish I heard more from him!
In general, that is one wise woman
LOL, good one
@MrGriff305 I thought she was just being smart. We should all be more like that.
Except her response about the Dahli Llama. There is no cultural explanation for that. Bill had it right.
She is just providing a false pretense as to what makes a relationship "work"....a relationship works until it does not work anymore...some folks are flexible enough to hang in there, some are not.
With regards to Mars, we're focused too much on the final achievement, rather than the process. Why go to the moon? No particular reason other than pushing the boundaries of human possibilities, the process of which has brought us much technological advancements.
It's not just about going to these places or the tech advancement either but to open the door to the next great frontier for human exploration, colonization & industrialization so we can spread this cancerous race off our host planet before we kill it. The universe outside our atmosphere has essentially infinite opportunities.
There's that, but I think we should take care of our own planet first(then perhaps flex our intellectual muscles.) We can create new technologies environmentally. It's good to make your bed before venturing outside into the universe.
@@buckchile614 It’s not an either / or situation. This isn’t binary. Humans can fix climate change AND spread our resources so the species doesn’t die out in a catastrophe.
Investing in science has always created a better world and discoveries are not confined to the subject in which they were discovered. Low gravity would help us 3D print human tissue for transplant recipients. Low gravity would allow us to manufacture better fiber optic cables which improve transmission times and reduce cost, allowing lower income areas access to high speed internet.
Investing in science, ALL science is what’s best for humanity.
@@buckchile614 If we said that we'd never have made it to the moon. There's always going to be problems on earth. And the way to improve it is to find solutions in ALL areas of research. If you can terraform mars, you can terraform earth back into clean earth.
The point is, the answer to fixing earth might be found in the process of preparing for Mars. Innovation happens when we think outside the box, in this case, outside the planet.
@@bdrobe2 there's an 800 mile trench from new york to chicago with fiber optic cable so that stock traders there can save a nano-second to make more money .. clearly a wise choice for technology ..
It’s not too hard to outclass the one-note snarky tone of anything Bill says, but Esther Perel is truly in a class beyond all. A brilliant, thoughtful and gracious person no matter what is thrown at her.
Glenn Loury is the man! Such a brilliant mind.
Esther is right about the concept of 'soulmate'. No human being can or should live their lives to totally satisfy someone else. That's why there's such a high incidence of sociopathic narcissists, who demand 'worship' from other human beings.
I don't think soulmate means the same thing to everyone.
When I met my husband we felt like we were soulmates because we had so much in common and felt like we were a perfect fit. And we felt like we were meant to be together because of that.
@@varab6287 Same here. My husband and I don't worship each other. Trust me.
Yes they should and people are happier for it. People that have been married their whole lives are happier than single people.
Says the guy telling people how they should live their lives 😂
explain your hypothesis?
The whole problem with romantic love is that most of the time the person feeling such intense feelings in in love with something they themselves created. You can see this clearly by the breakup/divorce rate. When you find out how wrong your ideal of that other person was you blame them and get out.
AI won't put the music "business" out of business. They will embrace it as fast as they embraced autotune. But the music business will use AI to put musicians out of business, or more accurately, enslave musicians even more than it has to date.
I'm pretty sure the first amendment will give artists some sort of likeness protection.
I"ve mourned the demise of the music industry for decades now already.
AI won't put the music business out of business. after all the music business has been doing that all by itself. one only has to look at the quality of modern music? too see the answer to that question.
@@user-sr9in2es8b lol you mean out of the vast number of available artists on say iTunes or Spotify, and your loose use of the word “modern”, you haven’t been able to find ONE MUSICIAN you like?! Go play your tri tones you smug tone deaf mute.
What does electronic music and the music of the DJs do today?
Esther Perel is in a different league than the others.
I had never heard of Esther Perel before, but my word, do I love her! I'd listen to her all day long - a role model for girls, AND boys everywhere (and women and men too of course!).
esther is so terrific
Good guests this week. Very bright and insightful.
Totally agree. Seemed well balanced and diverse opinions from smart people with their own grounded POV…even if I disagree. It was so civilized!
@@auntlizard262 Civilized...but very boring, and not well-moderated by Bill!
The comment about the Dalai Llama “asking a bit to suck his tongue” was in a cultural context. In Tibet it is a custom to give candy to children from the mouth. (Front aunties) Then when there is no more candy the Aunty or Uncle will say, “I have no more candy, you will have to eat my tongue.” It’s said in a joking way. The Dalai Llama translated to English “Suck my tongue” accidentally, rather than “eat my tongue.” I’m glad Esther Perel was so thoughtful in her response.
Enabling apologist for deviant behaviour 👍
Interesting comments from this therapist..soulmate explained well
Looking at the whole episode I confidently can say that Bill here got a needed therapy session by Esther. She opened a new world for him. So curious to know what thinks about that now. That would be a dope Club Random episode 😏
Your talking about the woman that couldn’t even give an intelligent answer for an 80 year old wanting to suck a kids tongue?
I thought she was a pompous know it all.
@Carpenter I thought she was Dr. Ruth reborn.
@@carpenter3069 she knows a lot on this topic
He won’t change
In a perfect world it would be Real Time With Esther Perel.
Esther seemed to have Bill's measure in this episode. He couldn't seem to figure her out.
She's like many (usually of a younger generation) that does not like Bill's approach to things. Exactly like in the last segment, that he is judgmental. I somewhat agree with her but in this specific case it is warranted to be judgmental. Another example that matches this is when Bill says that liberals should admit that Islam by definition has a lot of bad ideas.
So on the whole, I find myself usually siding with Bill, but can understand that him and I are sometimes the old man saying "get off my lawn".
he disagreed on the cultural context matter, which wasn't very liberal/progressive of him..
@@bluceree7312 Bill took a common sense/my eyes are seeing what they are seeing approach and she took a let’s not jump to conclusions/let’s give him the benefit of the doubt approach. Both are understandable to take, but it’s not like taking either approach is going to yield any substantial consequence in the world (at least in the short-run) and that’s why it barely matters. This is that thing people talk about after they talk about the weather.
@@petesake1181 So what is your point? we should not talk about these things because there is no substantial consequences from talking about it?
It's because of her accent. It's hard to read her emotions and feelings because of such a heavy, thick accent.
Esther is amazing so stoked to see her here!
Where can I just listen to Esther and watch her smile over and over?
her many ted talks :)
@@kathrynharrison1200 Lol Thanks. I could listen to her read a "Terms and Agreement" policy
She also has a great podcast doing couples therapy. I think it’s called “Where should we begin.”👍
Thousands of TH-cam videos
I don’t know whether or not she has a podcast, but I can see her smile when I close my eyes.
Esther Perel is too intelligent and thoughtful for this show. Bill Maher embarrassed himself this time.
Bill was 100% right. She left the door open for perverse shi to be ok... its never ok
Ester is the best!
Haha. Glenn's look when Daniel said "relying on private corporations..."
Good point. Failing is part of the process.
I think Esther was trying to say that people too often read a headline in the news about a situation from thousands of miles away in a culture they don't understand (many people don't even get passed the headline) and think they have the right to form an uneducated, out of context opinion about it. The only people who should have an opinion about the Dalai Lama situation are the child, the family and the community, etc. One of the worst things that the internet has done to society is giving the average person the impression that their opinion has value about everything in existence, whether they have had any education or experience with it or not. This false impression is, it seems, where cancel culture was borne...
If you can accept this to happen to your own child (regardless of any context), then, and only then you can accept it happening to that kid.
Who cares about cancel culture?
I was disgusted and consider this an act of Child abuse . .. and why did he -they feel the need to apologize ??
In Tibetan culture, grandparents would give candy to their grandchild, and when it's gone, it was "i've given all I had, now you'd have to eat my tongue (meaning I have no more to give). Not literally eat my tongue. Bill was seeing it from an American viewpoint, obviously narrow, limited.
@@healthyself7941 It is nontheless, a disgusting "cultural" act...many interactions among various cult believers are disgusting!
If a single judge can do that to the sales of this medication. Why can't a single judge ban the sale of AR 15's?
Brilliant!
BILL ANNOYED ME AT THE END NOT LETTING HER SPEAK CAUSE SHE WAS RIGHT THAT WHAT HE SAID COULD BE AN EXPRESSION
Man! She was brilliant.
Her partner is lucky.
Would love to see an hour of Esther Perel on Club Random.
I don’t think it would be an enjoyable conversation. Notice how she winced at Bill’s closed-minded idiocy several times in this show.
The music business is vulnerable to being put out of business by AI for one reason. Today's music is formulaic enough for AI to mimic it and pass it off as something the people wrote.
If you tell me we've already been listening to AI generated music for years, I'd believe it. 😂
And largely computer generated already.
That baby wasn’t made between the woman and her physician lol
Bill nailed it. Govt Govt Govt! Bessner loves Govt!
As he should
Great guest great interviews
Turns out there is a cultural explanation to the 'suck my tongue' incident. This came out days later in several media, including Politico, I think:
In Tibet there is an old tradition of grandparents putting candy in their mouth and then letting their grandchildren take the candy from the grandparent's lips. When the grandparent has no more candy left in their mouth, they will say "now I only have my tongue for you to suck', implying that there is no more candy in their mouth. This is the background for the Dalai Lama to say 'would you like to suck my tongue'?
Yes, it sounds a bit weird to me, and I doubt this is a cultural practice that will ever take hold in the west, but I wouldn't accuse this practice of being associated with pedophilia.
Another case of the media being quick to report without all of the facts and people refusing to acknowledge the follow up full story
Additionally:
In most countries sticking out your tongue would be considered a bit rude, but in Tibet it's a way of greeting.
It has been a tradition since the 9th century, the time of an unpopular king called Lang Darma, who was known for his black tongue.
People in Tibet, thought that the king had been reborn, so to prove they weren't the king, they would show their tongues.
The traditional greeting is now a form of respect.
SOURCE: BBC Guide: Unusual greetings from around the world
Published
7 April 2014
Imagine if the Buddhists acted like Muslims when their Holy Man was insulted?
Exactly. You'd think Bill would have heard of this. I'm always surprised by how much he doesn't know. Comes across like a dumb person pretending to be smart.
Or maybe it originally sprang from pedo inclination , back when that wasn't a recognized motivation or thing yet, and simply became accepted. Not saying that's definitely how it came to be, but it's just as plausible as it being from a completely innocent origin, moreso in my opinion. Those inclinations pre-date society recognizing them as such.
Still praying for you Bill Maher 🌴❤️🙏🙏🙏❤️🌴
Thank GOD for Bill Maher being the voice of reason on the Dahli Lama bit.
But, he wasn't. She was. The Dalai Lama is not some kind of pervert, for God's sake! He was just kidding around with the child. There are cultural issues that we don't understand. Check out Ski Ski's excellent comment on this thread.
@@kitano0 It should be an easy and hard line to draw when it comes to that being grossly inappropriate, and you've just shown, like his guests, that you haven't used any critical thinking or due diligence if telling kids to "s" an adult's tongue passes the vibe check for you, across the board.
@@ncorp2668 Clearly you know nothing about Tibetan culture. In Tibet, the tongue is not sexualized as it is in America. There is a way that Tibetan Grandparents and grandchildren banter and tease. Before you jump to conclusions do some research on Tibetan culture. It's easy. You have internet access. Have you ever done world travel or lived in a radically different culture than what you are used to? Customs are not the same. What is considered grossly inappropriate in one culture could have a radically different meaning in another.
@@ncorp2668 You and Bill just needed to Google the term eat my tongue’
@@motheryuba57 It is seggsual. Just because a culture claims its something else doesn't make it any less so. A lot of cultural norms are pay-dough-fill-ick.
I was just thinking about Mating in Captivity. Esther is amazing.
Go Esther!!! Refusing to comment on something for which she doesn't have the full context. 👍🏻
Right on, I agree with Elon too Bill,we must pause AI!!!! And I can't wait to hear from him on the show, should be good
If there was an option to watch the show with the audience on mute Bill would get x100 more viewers.
Agree. Must be due to the long-term effects of weed or whatever he is into these days. He continues to go downhill.
Damn right. Bill's is probably the most obnoxious audience sounds on TV.
I'm not sure how much more viewership would increase, if at all, but the shows he did during the height of covid sure had a different atmosphere when Bill had no crowds to play to and many of his typical quips fell completely flat.
Bill w/o his supportive crowd, interviewing Dan Crenshaw.
th-cam.com/video/RTGBJMDcras/w-d-xo.html
Absolutely. His audience is insufferable. I keep saying to them, "Shut the fuck up!"
Audiences are like flatulence. Pressure escaping to the relief of the comedian’s ego.
Daniel Bessner seems like the epitome of a certain type of contemptible "lives-in-theory-rather-than-reality" academic, and his performance this night was mostly poor to embarrassing. But credit where credit is due, so kudos to him for giving a good answer to the question about "fascism".
Her perspective, which turns the idea of "soulmates" from a romantic one to a religious one is most interesting. . .
Makes the whole concept pretty creepy, actually. Didn't realize that people took the term _literally_
Always thought it as more of a figure of speech, myself.
(Also, it would have been nice if Maher let her finish at least one god damn sentence on that last question rather than just railroading over her.)
Well, the perspective is that it is a religious one isn’t her idea, it’s what it was before modern western people applied the context of “perfection” towards someone
@@acbower4468 Makes sense to me. I've slowly come to learn that the west transfigures most things into religion in some way.
(Also, the idea of perfectionism in a relationship is actually terrifying. . .)
If you believed that the soul has a separate energy from the physical form and that travels from lifetime to lifetime, it's not too much of a stretch that soul energies that bonded in one life could find their way back to bond again in another life.
I so enjoyed listening to her. I am a psychologist of 25 years. Her presentation is really focused on why being impulsive and judgmental is so counterproductive to our understanding. People are so accustomed to the flippancy that is constantly injected into interpretation of events they are thrown off when a clear contemplative, rational approach is used. Now this is a live show and we are here for the laughs but she shows her sharp intellect, compassion and her training. When we use careful analysis of the more complete picture it is possible to appreciate nuance and complexity that is apart from the black and white duality/simplicity which largely doesn’t not serve us well with problem solving and understanding. There is always more to the equation than you know.
Oh Bill, the "suck my tongue" is a popular joke in that language, it wasn't an actual "suck my tongue". Oh dear.
Why did the Dalai Lama apologize ?
Also, hats off to these guests and their thought process
Can’t wait to see Elon on the show next week. He can educate bill about Mars.
Very impressed by Esther Perel comments on the word "fascism" and her commitment to objectivity to find the truth.
Love how sensible the lady was abt the Dalai Lama question, and Bill on this one showed the shallowness of an American TV host on seeing various aspects before jumping into conclusion about things....
Bill has an arrogance about him that was really shining near the end of this vid. The Lady was totally correct in saying that we shouldn't jump to conclusions. This kind of reaction is what can cause the "flip" within one year, and the feared "Facists" to easily move in. Remember, Bill, you have to listen more than talk, to Learn!🧐😎
Why did the Dali Lama apologize ?
Love Esther Perel!!!
Someone needs to explain to her that this is America, and we love throwing politics in the middle of places where politics don’t belong!
His mom was on stage with him. I heard the actual translation is “eat my tongue.”
Google the cultural implication of eat my tongue. I also misjudged when I first heard the story.
There's no good way to let the Dali Lama off the hook just as there is no way to let the Catholic church. Religion does not get a pass on unacceptable behavior just because it is powerful. The Supreme Court the same. The truism holds: Absolute power corrupts absolutely. That's why we have laws.
@@hopeemch8511 What "absolute power" does a man who has been in exile since he was a teenager have?
@@windycityliz7711 Not the boy but the men in the priesthood who raised him, surround him and govern him and hold absolute power over him and believers.
@@hopeemch8511 I have been Buddhist for decades and have known several Tibetans (refugees) - extremely kind & positive people despite all they have been through. The hierarchy you describe is a product of your imagination.
Esther is excellent.
Bill MaherI I thought you were much more flexible and open. I totally agree with Esther Perel, we cannot jump to conclusions without knowing the context, celebration, culture, etc. How you reacted in these cases is exactly what the mass media do every day, handling single "truths" without taking account of the context. The more tabloid the press is, the more superficial, irrational and deceitful it is.
The Dali Lama has apologized. He stuck his tongue out and the kid did the same. It was meant to be a joke that landed poorly. If anyone should be able to understand a joke landing poorly Bill Maher certainly should! He has done that many, many, many times!
So you're saying the sucking the tongue thing was completely made up by someone else to make him look bad..? Either you or Bill is missing something apparently
@@paulthaipaul9946 No. He said it. He meant it to come off as funny. Like Bite me. It just came out very wrong. He certainly did not mean it in a sexual way. He chose his words badly.
@Dianne Im not saying the Dalai lama meant anything he did in a sexual way. Likely (and hopefully) not, and most people should give him the benefit of the doubt as a respected older person. But the tradition with the grandparents' tongue and the candy could have originally sprang from a pedo inclination, back when those inclinations (and others like domestic abuse, rape etc) simply were not recognized and widely tolerated. Also, we're not just talking about what he said, but what we see him do on the video as well. Its been widely explained in the aftermath of the video going viral that there's an old "tradition" of grandparents offering their tongues when the candy is gone. Fine,.no doubt. One can say this old tradition originated from a totally innocent place, but some might think otherwise, sorry. Again, I'm not saying he meant anything bad, just that the tradition might have come from a bad place unbeknownst to him or other well meaning old folks.
I appreciate Perel for striving for objectivity. She made Maher look bad on the last question.
The woman therapist is very sharp. She makes a lot of sense most of times....
Regardless of what we decide to do with AI, we being the west China and Russia certainly aren't going to live up to any agreement. And then where are we?
Even the companies related to the ones calling for a pause, are not going to cease development, just delay the releases. So after some 6 month hold, will just see what is likely to another generational leap, which may be worse than seeing the evolution in, um real time.
China and Russia do not act in concert, have different social structures, different economic approaches and very different histories. It is no longer a dipolar world. When Americans learn this, then perhaps you would not jump to confrontation. (By the way, the best coders in the former USSR are probably in Ukraine.)
Even if they create some form of token oversight, here & abroad, the ruling class will continue to develop & weaponize it like every other similar advancement based on the tried & true "We must do it before they do it.". CRISPR is a great example where even Vlad said such a new advancement would be far more dangerous to the world than nuclear, but you can bet Russia & everyone else has continued to research & develop DNA manipulation, which- like every other example listed- could be the end of us once it gets out of hand. It's just another Pandora's box that we can't stop ourselves from opening.
You're right. The genie's not going back into the bottle. This is deciding to build a nuclear bomb on steroids. "Man's created its own doom; first step was touching the Moon"--Bob Dylan(paraphrasing.)
People that talk bad about America don't understand how good they have it!!! Try living in Russia or Korea
Bill, you turned out to be wrong about the Dalai Lama, there is a cultural context to that saying in Tibet. Esther, you are awesome!
Why did the Dalai Lama apologize ?
@@KB-sv7fm It wasn't necessary but because he's a public figure and a cultural tradition stirred up such controversy, unfortunately, it was appropriate to apologize. Should we be apologizing for kids sitting on Santa's lap?
@@HolisticPeacenik Adults over there have lots of children sucking their tongues , right ?
Esther Perel is so much smarter than anyone on the panel this week.
How was she better than Glenn or Daniel?