As I said on the discord and as you said, Zenith needs wayyy more social features and they need more fast. The playerbase is slowly falling, we need more social aspects quick! I love all of your points in this video, hopefully the devs see this!!
@@NotMe-hs7jk its staggering. Whenever I log on, I cannot find a single new player or sometimes anyone at all, and I'm playing highly populated servers. It's slowly going downwards, I've seen so many people talking about how they stopped playing zenith because it got repetitive, boring, etc. And these people also loved the game originally
@@NotMe-hs7jk before, whenever you went to the plains, you would find tons of people and new players just having fun and talking. And I mean TONS. Plus, not as many servers get full nowadays
@@NotMe-hs7jk genuinely, last time I played, I couldn't find anyone to talk to. Though I do normally play very late at night, and I'm guessing you are probably right about my judgment being clouded. Though what I will say: many of the people playing (at least that I meet) are not new and are people that like grinding games. What we do have to admit though is that, for such a large game, not many talk about it and play it on social media (zenith doesn't seem to get that many views on TH-cam/tiktok from what I've seen)
"No game starts at it's peak" Now a days MMOs live or die by the first month they are available. Zenith has the advantage of not having any competitors, but the clock is ticking and if it's not ready to compete when others show up, it will disappear.
I think every point you raised here is spot on. This has never been done in VR before though - of course there are other VR MMO's but they don't compare to Zenith. If Ramen VR keep the updates rolling in, and turn Zenith into an ongoing expanding game over the course of years - it could be the most important VR title yet. Think of Runescape Classic - which then became RS 2, now RS3 like 2 decades later right? I was expecting Zenith to be pretty bare-bones on launch, and it does show. I just hope they don't abandon the game and keep listening to the player feedback. Like I said, this could be the pinnacle of VR gaming if they handle it right. Luckily they seem very responsive to player feedback, so I'm sure this will continue to be a great experience. Really enjoyed the vid mate !
35 Mil!? I think that we can now refer to them as "Top" Ramen VR 🧐 S/N: I view this game's progression as I viewed Adventure Quest 3D (if you've ever) when it began.. It definitely grew and is still growing, but I'm not sure if they've gotten a deal like Ramen just landed, boy
Content is what makes or breaks MMOs. That said, development takes time. I don't expect the new class to be released until the end of summer. The new armor should come much sooner because it is mostly art and balancing. They have said that they want to have patch releases on a monthly basis, but they haven't committed to any specific frequency for larger releases.
I "accidentally": got both my BM and EM to 40 doing everything for main quests except turning them in. I switched to whichever was my lowest sub-class to turn them in and basically leveled everything at the same time. I found in both cases that once you hit the 35 range you jump to 40 before you know it. I spent 3 weeks, 8 hours per day grinding Ezrel to get godstones for all my subclasses. I am currently wrapping up Amara's tears on my EM and BM, They are both sitting with level 29 rare weapons and level 25 epic armor because you can't craft anything better without an excessive amount of grind and praying to RNG gods. I am about ready to quit before I even start grinding dungeons and raids. If I craft my first 40 weapon/armor piece after spending however much time and get a tank item instead of a DPS item I would quite literally get banned with the amount of bile that would spew out of my mouth.
Yo I've been armor grind after hitting lvl 40. yesterday after a few weeks of grinding I finally got more armor with the sprinter enhancement (increase stamina) its only one point of stamina per enhancement but I got armor with sprinter twice. (2 points) so that's been my goal after hitting lvl 40. Grinding invasions is extra tedious for endgame armor so I avoid them unless I hear about a raid party on discord. Other then that I agree with your comments about endgame not being enough to keep players around but to add salt on those wounds the player to player interactions is basically nothing. Other than socializing with random ppl and guilds that's about it. No trading or pvp and both of those if neglected will be the biggest downfall. It's a friggen mmo for God sake. If it was an rpg with multi-player aspects I would understand but it's not its an mmo. The game is supposed to suck and be grindie.. but doing that with your friends and sharing loot should make up for it. That's all for now
There has been pretty much no small fix updates. Like there's so many core mechanics that are so broken im surprised I can actually play as blade Master. Even though most godstones don't work.
I love the game, but ur right! They need to get to the updates and quickly. Im talking easier communication with ur friends, PvP, player housing and tons more.
Bruh ceasetial throne update killed it the end game player base is quiting because it is taking at the least 8 weeks to get the new end game legendary gear some still play just to flex but that's it
Yeah I already stopped cause I didn't want to waste my time grinding after I beat the game, Zenith NEEDS PvP or social features to keep it running, the more like Sword Art Online it is the more popular it will be, despite the memes it is true.
i love the idea of this game. i want to play it but I just have too much going on in my life to play it to any extent. it makes me sad. but I hope it gets popular and better
You said exactly what I was thinking. They should have waited to release this game until they fixed some bugs and added more end game content. What are you going to do with a fully geared 40 lvl character with all the roles maxed out. what are you going to use that epic gear you worked for?
Since the last update my avatar keeps jumping right.. making it an infuriating experience to even exist in zenith. I don't know what the last update added to the game but this new glitch is ruining it for me
Personally I think it is worth it. For many people it's a completely new experience and you will end up having tons of hours of gameplay, or might get a bit grindy but for many people the excitement of working hard for the new level is fun. If you haven't play much vr or haven't played much mmos it will be a crazy awesome experience, even if you have being able to actually swing your arms with swords adds so much immersion.
for me personally level scaling update killed game , i was "beta" tester for my social group, my "job" was to lvl to max lvl and report to my friends about this game, and i was like, ok this game have problems but all fine, and then lvl scaling hit and i was, hard pass , i know what it is but a way it works make it is super bad
Why does everyone consider zenith the only quest 2 mmo right now? OrbusVR is a standalone mmo that while not as polished, had LOADS more content than zenith at the moment
In all honesty I haven't heard of it, the thing is, and similar to the fight between ilysia and zenith, is that they are taking different routes, ilysia and orbus take more of a runescape route, while zenith is more of a futuristic type, (maybe like WoW? I haven't played it). So in my eyes they are different enough to co exist without much contest.
Zenith is my favorite VR game. There isn't anything like it. Honestly, it might be my favorite MMORPG despite being something I would never in a million years play on PC. This game really capitalizes on being VR without sacrificing the *core* MMO aspects. Movement is fun. Combat (despite repetitive at times) is always a joy due to the mix of movement and how I have to manage mana. The game is incredibly immersive (I love climbing). And it still feels like a normal MMORPG. But the game needs a lot of development of its RPG aspects. It feels like an mid/late-2000s MMORPG at best. One of the ones trying to emulate the success of the early 2000s MMOs. I too believe in this game. And I never fail to have a blast exploring and helping random players. But this game needs to focus on the MMORPG aspect of VR MMORPG. The VR part is nailed down.
Not sure why dislikes are disabled on this video, my past and future videos don't/won't have that disabled. Couldn't find the setting lol
Can't see them anyways cuz TH-cam removed them (RIP dislikes)
TH-cam removed dislikes
As I said on the discord and as you said, Zenith needs wayyy more social features and they need more fast. The playerbase is slowly falling, we need more social aspects quick! I love all of your points in this video, hopefully the devs see this!!
@@NotMe-hs7jk its staggering. Whenever I log on, I cannot find a single new player or sometimes anyone at all, and I'm playing highly populated servers. It's slowly going downwards, I've seen so many people talking about how they stopped playing zenith because it got repetitive, boring, etc. And these people also loved the game originally
@@NotMe-hs7jk before, whenever you went to the plains, you would find tons of people and new players just having fun and talking. And I mean TONS. Plus, not as many servers get full nowadays
@@NotMe-hs7jk genuinely, last time I played, I couldn't find anyone to talk to. Though I do normally play very late at night, and I'm guessing you are probably right about my judgment being clouded. Though what I will say: many of the people playing (at least that I meet) are not new and are people that like grinding games. What we do have to admit though is that, for such a large game, not many talk about it and play it on social media (zenith doesn't seem to get that many views on TH-cam/tiktok from what I've seen)
"No game starts at it's peak" Now a days MMOs live or die by the first month they are available. Zenith has the advantage of not having any competitors, but the clock is ticking and if it's not ready to compete when others show up, it will disappear.
i agree with everything said in this u did amazing on this video
I think every point you raised here is spot on. This has never been done in VR before though - of course there are other VR MMO's but they don't compare to Zenith. If Ramen VR keep the updates rolling in, and turn Zenith into an ongoing expanding game over the course of years - it could be the most important VR title yet. Think of Runescape Classic - which then became RS 2, now RS3 like 2 decades later right? I was expecting Zenith to be pretty bare-bones on launch, and it does show.
I just hope they don't abandon the game and keep listening to the player feedback. Like I said, this could be the pinnacle of VR gaming if they handle it right. Luckily they seem very responsive to player feedback, so I'm sure this will continue to be a great experience.
Really enjoyed the vid mate !
What zenith needs is to make the world feel alive, and more classes
35 Mil!? I think that we can now refer to them as "Top" Ramen VR 🧐
S/N: I view this game's progression as I viewed Adventure Quest 3D (if you've ever) when it began.. It definitely grew and is still growing, but I'm not sure if they've gotten a deal like Ramen just landed, boy
Unfortunately the dmg is done they should of waited at least another year. It’s going to be hard to get back what they lost and the hype died a lot
Content is what makes or breaks MMOs. That said, development takes time. I don't expect the new class to be released until the end of summer. The new armor should come much sooner because it is mostly art and balancing. They have said that they want to have patch releases on a monthly basis, but they haven't committed to any specific frequency for larger releases.
I "accidentally": got both my BM and EM to 40 doing everything for main quests except turning them in. I switched to whichever was my lowest sub-class to turn them in and basically leveled everything at the same time. I found in both cases that once you hit the 35 range you jump to 40 before you know it. I spent 3 weeks, 8 hours per day grinding Ezrel to get godstones for all my subclasses. I am currently wrapping up Amara's tears on my EM and BM, They are both sitting with level 29 rare weapons and level 25 epic armor because you can't craft anything better without an excessive amount of grind and praying to RNG gods. I am about ready to quit before I even start grinding dungeons and raids. If I craft my first 40 weapon/armor piece after spending however much time and get a tank item instead of a DPS item I would quite literally get banned with the amount of bile that would spew out of my mouth.
Yeah that’s the problem like I said on the discord there is too much grinding but nice video
Yo I've been armor grind after hitting lvl 40. yesterday after a few weeks of grinding I finally got more armor with the sprinter enhancement (increase stamina) its only one point of stamina per enhancement but I got armor with sprinter twice. (2 points) so that's been my goal after hitting lvl 40. Grinding invasions is extra tedious for endgame armor so I avoid them unless I hear about a raid party on discord. Other then that I agree with your comments about endgame not being enough to keep players around but to add salt on those wounds the player to player interactions is basically nothing. Other than socializing with random ppl and guilds that's about it. No trading or pvp and both of those if neglected will be the biggest downfall. It's a friggen mmo for God sake. If it was an rpg with multi-player aspects I would understand but it's not its an mmo. The game is supposed to suck and be grindie.. but doing that with your friends and sharing loot should make up for it. That's all for now
Grinding for godstones is also something to do after 40, right?
There has been pretty much no small fix updates. Like there's so many core mechanics that are so broken im surprised I can actually play as blade Master. Even though most godstones don't work.
I love the game, but ur right! They need to get to the updates and quickly. Im talking easier communication with ur friends, PvP, player housing and tons more.
Why do people want player housing so much? I don't get the appeal
@@varion3459 I guess cuz that’s where guilds can do private meetings etc. there’s a lot u can do with those spaces
It is now April 17th, there is no new updates on the Cyber Ninja class.... they're launching a referral system.
Bruh ceasetial throne update killed it the end game player base is quiting because it is taking at the least 8 weeks to get the new end game legendary gear some still play just to flex but that's it
Yeah I already stopped cause I didn't want to waste my time grinding after I beat the game, Zenith NEEDS PvP or social features to keep it running, the more like Sword Art Online it is the more popular it will be, despite the memes it is true.
i love the idea of this game. i want to play it but I just have too much going on in my life to play it to any extent. it makes me sad. but I hope it gets popular and better
You said exactly what I was thinking. They should have waited to release this game until they fixed some bugs and added more end game content. What are you going to do with a fully geared 40 lvl character with all the roles maxed out. what are you going to use that epic gear you worked for?
Since the last update my avatar keeps jumping right.. making it an infuriating experience to even exist in zenith. I don't know what the last update added to the game but this new glitch is ruining it for me
honestly this game feels like it launched way too early.
I am gonna tell my parents soon to get zenith
Question:is it worth it or not
Anybody answer plz
Personally I think it is worth it. For many people it's a completely new experience and you will end up having tons of hours of gameplay, or might get a bit grindy but for many people the excitement of working hard for the new level is fun. If you haven't play much vr or haven't played much mmos it will be a crazy awesome experience, even if you have being able to actually swing your arms with swords adds so much immersion.
for me personally level scaling update killed game , i was "beta" tester for my social group, my "job" was to lvl to max lvl and report to my friends about this game, and i was like, ok this game have problems but all fine, and then lvl scaling hit and i was, hard pass , i know what it is but a way it works make it is super bad
Why does everyone consider zenith the only quest 2 mmo right now? OrbusVR is a standalone mmo that while not as polished, had LOADS more content than zenith at the moment
In all honesty I haven't heard of it, the thing is, and similar to the fight between ilysia and zenith, is that they are taking different routes, ilysia and orbus take more of a runescape route, while zenith is more of a futuristic type, (maybe like WoW? I haven't played it). So in my eyes they are different enough to co exist without much contest.
@@LuKiZenith ilysia is dramatically similar to WoW regarding graphics
Zenith is my favorite VR game. There isn't anything like it. Honestly, it might be my favorite MMORPG despite being something I would never in a million years play on PC.
This game really capitalizes on being VR without sacrificing the *core* MMO aspects. Movement is fun. Combat (despite repetitive at times) is always a joy due to the mix of movement and how I have to manage mana. The game is incredibly immersive (I love climbing). And it still feels like a normal MMORPG.
But the game needs a lot of development of its RPG aspects. It feels like an mid/late-2000s MMORPG at best. One of the ones trying to emulate the success of the early 2000s MMOs. I too believe in this game. And I never fail to have a blast exploring and helping random players. But this game needs to focus on the MMORPG aspect of VR MMORPG. The VR part is nailed down.
The devs are what's wrong with the game. They dont know how to manage.