How to Outline Your Fantasy Novel (The Hourglass Method)

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  • @Jed_Herne
    @Jed_Herne  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    *There's a slight typo at 16:57 (the word 'that' is repeated twice).
    If you would like me to help you build your own fantasy novel outline, join my 7-week Fantasy Outlining Bootcamp: bit.ly/jeds-outlining-program

    • @WitherITB
      @WitherITB 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You worry about a single typo(word)?

    • @wasikancb
      @wasikancb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I went into the comments to see why there's a word censored lol, so thanks for telling.

    • @mewmewmewmewmewmewmewbirb
      @mewmewmewmewmewmewmewbirb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is soo helpful because I am doing nanowrimo but not writing the story only the outline. I was a bit stuck on how to outlined this as the is verrrry fantasy, I mean like the main characters are literally mythical creatures sooooo… THANKS!😅

    • @aweetodd
      @aweetodd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What stage in our writing should we apply? Maybe I'm just making excuses cause I'm nervous about it, but I feel like I need to have a certain threshold of my story done so I don't waste the opportunity.

    • @SteelRainz1
      @SteelRainz1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@aweetodd I honestly feel the same way. If I had to guess though based on this video, I think if you have the "dump all your ideas down" part as well as a general idea of your main characters and world then you could be ready.
      I personally don't feel ready because I've done way more world building and don't even know the point of the story just yet so I'll jump on the next train. I know how I want to write things, just haven't decided on the what. Good luck!

  • @The_Trident_Master
    @The_Trident_Master 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    I LITERALLY just realized that I needed a better outline because I kept writing myself into corners and then this came out. Perfect timing!

  • @goopysubject
    @goopysubject 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Although this is a 40 minute ad, it is the best ad I've ever seen. It's so helpful, so insightful and definitely effective. The only reason why I won't subcribe to your program is because I don't write in english. But oh do I wish it was in Brazilian portuguese lol Now seriously, I love how you tackle writing, so respectfully towards everyone's different styles and needs. I find it very easy to get upset when watching videos on writing, because they often make me feel like I have no clue what I'm doing and I should probably just give up. Your videos, always reassure me at the same time that they inform me on so many new perspectives on writing. Thank you so much for your work!

  • @emojicoolman56
    @emojicoolman56 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +198

    The way I look at it is that your outline is the skeleton and the story is the body. A skeleton provides the shape for a body so that it doesn't fall apart but without a pumping heart and organs, a skeleton is kinda useless.

    • @leonmitas
      @leonmitas 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Unless you are a Necromancer of course

    • @crix_h3eadshotgg992
      @crix_h3eadshotgg992 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@leonmitasdead trees animated by the pumping heart of story

    • @ArifRWinandar
      @ArifRWinandar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Outline is the pencil sketch before the ink and paint

    • @nickv1212
      @nickv1212 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll stick to octopi. They have no skeletons and 3 hearts.

    • @rphb5870
      @rphb5870 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      a novel isn't a living being that grows and develop, it is a structure, a house that needs walls, plumbing and electricity.
      For that reason it is better to build the supporting walls, rather then designing each room individually

  • @38.thachthaolehuynh20
    @38.thachthaolehuynh20 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    I think you convinced me to start to outline my story in the 1st 2 minutes. After this, I'll learn more about outlining

  • @caiandrew4924
    @caiandrew4924 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Just finished a draft 0, complete with a paragraph or so for every chapter. Will use this video to sharpen it.

    • @unicorntomboy9736
      @unicorntomboy9736 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I am far more of a pantser, so I don't do much outlining at all, and is very bare bones. To me, the first draft somewhat acts as the outline for me. I do like the idea of a guiding principles document though, I might make one myself.

    • @caiandrew4924
      @caiandrew4924 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@unicorntomboy9736 Try it on one of your smaller upcoming projects! See if the process mends well to your existing schedule.

    • @unicorntomboy9736
      @unicorntomboy9736 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@caiandrew4924 I only have one project, which is my gothic fantasy novel.
      I feel like Jed's guide isn't very pantser friendly, and only caters to writers who are more so plotters/planners

    • @unicorntomboy9736
      @unicorntomboy9736 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@caiandrew4924 I am 90% done with my first draft, so I am very far into it right now. I am going to try to try far more outlining for when I start work on the second draft i.e major rewrite draft, where every single element of my book will be greatly refined and polished more

  • @PhoenixCrown
    @PhoenixCrown 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    Ideas are cheap 12:00. I'm an entrepreneur (and fantasy writer), and I learned this lesson in business. I find it fascinating when I come across someone who is afraid to share some product or business idea because someone might steal it! First, if it's that easy to steal, there isn't much value in it--someone else will think of it sooner or later. Second, ideas are a dime a dozen--it's those who EXECUTE on their ideas, who envision a better product or a great story and then build towards it day in and day out for months or years, those are the people who create a better world for us all =)

    • @Makememesandmore
      @Makememesandmore 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Words well spoken. Now I'm not worried that I've told almost every comment I've written this past week about my magic system lol

  • @Glitxedroyal
    @Glitxedroyal 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My friend who’s helping me with my book recommended this channel for me for my fantasy book and it has helped so much at first it was boring and was just similar to other books I wasn’t trying to but now it’s so different I look back on my rough drafts and I think “wow this is the Sam ebook I’m now working on I wouldn’t believe that if I didn’t know it”

  • @MeganGuoin
    @MeganGuoin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As someone who's gotten pretty good at writing a handful of scenes with no idea where to go next, but still wanting to write a complete story, I can't wait to try your outline template!
    So many people advise making an outline, but no one ever really says how. Thank you for making this video going through the steps, it means a lot to us beginners.
    (Edit) I have now completed a general outline and I'm very motivated to write. Thanks again!

  • @rursus8354
    @rursus8354 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    This is what I needed. I have explored the suburb too much. I thought I had a story core, but I haven't: I have a messy philosophical vision that I don't understand.

  • @PhoenixCrown
    @PhoenixCrown 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Really helpful, Jed! I love how you describe story as a holistic entity where everything works together. Especially a fan of your triangle of story. My working theme is "Fight not the other side but those above who divide." My world is one where a few nations have all the magic and life, and a few people within control all of it. My characters are at varying levels of society, and we see how the Divide affects and is perceived by each. My plot involves the characters realizing that world is contrived, and the haves benefit from the suffering of the have nots, a worldview change.

    • @auburncryptd6318
      @auburncryptd6318 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I like that! Pls tell me when u publish it

    • @Makememesandmore
      @Makememesandmore 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My story is called "Light and Shadows" and my premise is "how far would you be willing to go to get what you want?"
      My favourite part of my magic system is the Shadow. Everyone's got a Shadow. Shadows are basically the worst version of yourself and they WILL do anything to get you to do what they want

    • @PhoenixCrown
      @PhoenixCrown 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Makememesandmore Sounds awesome!

  • @noahrice3362
    @noahrice3362 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Man... I will definitely be rewatching this at least 3 more times this week. Maybe I'll be able to get somewhere with this? But I guess I got essays to write first. ughh... It's always cool and inspiring to listen to this though. I really feel like I'm getting somewhere, and I'm seriously thinking about just grabbing a notebook and getting straight into it. I definitely will once I get the chance. Thanks again, Jed. I needed something like this to start my day.

    • @captainuseless2120
      @captainuseless2120 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      A fellow college student? I feel you there. Trying so hard to make progress with my novel, but life wants to make things difficult

    • @Makememesandmore
      @Makememesandmore 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@captainuseless2120 I've just started GCSE's and I'm procrastinating on my homework to get this done lmao

    • @captainuseless2120
      @captainuseless2120 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Makememesandmore Same bro. But it is quite satisfying to actually make progress. Even if you've got to do catch up work.

    • @Makememesandmore
      @Makememesandmore 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@captainuseless2120 Yeah, last night I was watching one of his videos and then remembered about my homework and went and did my maths homework lol

  • @TheJadedFilmMaker
    @TheJadedFilmMaker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    so many ads 😢

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      @N.R.N.Azario 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yes!!! Like those free webinars whose sole purpose is to show how much you need the paid program.

  • @aarniimmonen9374
    @aarniimmonen9374 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +153

    I'm 25 minutes into the video, finding it useful, but I'm seriously about to quit watching due to the constant advertising of the bootcamp. It's too much. I was convinced that it was probably a good bootcamp - not for me, but helpful for many - but the more times it's advertised, the more desperate it starts to feel. Now I'm at the point where I'm both very tired of this video, and also not sure about to quality of the bootcamp. Just maybe something to consider in later videos, thanks.

    • @Goku-sm4pc
      @Goku-sm4pc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      This is what made me unsubscribe - it’s constant and over pushed in EVERY video.

    • @sentientbloodpuddle1458
      @sentientbloodpuddle1458 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      It's a shame. This is a very good video but yes the advertising is far too much

    • @TSFitzpatrick
      @TSFitzpatrick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      It is a lot. Very annoying.

    • @jonathangregory1977
      @jonathangregory1977 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I have been thinking this through most of the videos I watch from this channel but still usually get some good advice if I watch them. I think I’m gonna skip this one. Thanks for saving me some time

    • @____uncompetative
      @____uncompetative 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jonathangregory1977 I watch a lot of channels whose opinions (actually uncomfortable facts), lead them to being demonitised. As a result they have a Patreon and some promotional merchandise and coffee brand they are promoting, etc. This means a couple of ad reads during their show. Now, if I didn't have TH-cam Premium I would have a load more adverts. I have TH-cam on for company all day long as I live alone working from home, so it is invaluable, but I would get super annoyed if I had to deal with their ads, and recently cancelled Amazon Prime because they had put ads into their movies that used to come with Amazon Prime Video. By the way this isn't an automated ad for TH-cam Premium. I am not a bot.

  • @Eldalynn
    @Eldalynn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A few things I’d like to add onto feedback, I think it’s fantastic to get outside perspective on a working project, but it’s not the only way to improve. Reading about writing can be a valuable tool, it can strengthen the inner editor within.
    Reading your own work out loud can help catch mistakes, improve clarity, and rhythm.
    Reflecting on what you liked in book and what you didn’t.
    Analyzing others authors and how they implemented certain techniques.
    I think learning these can strengthen a writer and build a solid foundation, along with outside feedback.

  • @Chudi2000
    @Chudi2000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I can’t enroll in your class because I’m writing a capepunk story, so I’m grateful that you put so much useful info on this platform. Congrats on 100k subs, I hope you get many more. Your books and videos have revolutionized my storytelling approach.

  • @T-Sharp
    @T-Sharp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This structure helped me a lot just listening to it and laying my story out. I struggled trying to write because i would obsess over details with nothing but an idea of where I was going. I have ADHD, so I'm not typically great with structure, but this really helps break down the whole thing into chunks that help me not only keep focus but understand what in my book needs work. Just watching this video helped me lay out my progression far easier and develop my characters beyond something that was really bland. I have great appreciation for this video and the many others you have on here, Jed.

  • @Auscher
    @Auscher 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Jed, this is so effective for someone like me. Thanks man! I’m still struggling to get a move on, with my story rn. But I think that I’ll make a proper outline now. It’s a little sad, as I’m already on the works of it. But I’ll get through it ig. And congrats about the 100k, you deserved it man!

    • @Chudi2000
      @Chudi2000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same, I’m 10,000 words in, but at least we can revise with the insights from this video. You’ve got this 💪

    • @Auscher
      @Auscher 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Chudi2000 I’m currently starting over with to my book. I was about 20.000 words in, but it didn’t make much sense. So I’m overdoing it

    • @Chudi2000
      @Chudi2000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Auscher That’s a shame, but the work you’ve already put in will still be useful for telling your story, even if the story ends up completely different. Your experience will help you avoid more mistakes as you move forward.

    • @Auscher
      @Auscher 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Chudi2000 Thanks man, and you too. Happy writing

    • @captainuseless2120
      @captainuseless2120 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AuscherI feel that. Sometimes I’ve written a ton of content that just ended up in the trash bin. It’s demoralizing at first, but helps you to really learn and do better. So just keep on trucking!

  • @GenLiu
    @GenLiu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What a timing Jed.
    After I took your course about the first Chapter and analyzed the feedback you gave me, I realized that a lot of issues regarding my first Chapter is tied to my outline. So, I'm back to the drawing board, as they say, and am working on improving my story at its core.
    The main issue is that a/ I have too many "key" characters and b/ each of my POV aren't weaved well enough to the main plot (which made the main plot too difficult to grasp and caused my story to be all over the place). So, now, I'm working on focusing on one plot point at a time, and keep every POV character revolving around it (in fact, a lot of those characters will now be part of the same storyline).
    That will obviously involve to cut quite a few things, including characters and ideas and scenes but I can always keep them for future books or whatever. Their disappearance won't be for nothing.
    It's for the greater good lol
    In any case, thanks again for your feedback, that opened my eyes to a ton of things and my brain is literally boiling with new ways to approach my story now.
    One thing I didn't realize, at first, is that, by being in too many places at once, I was kinda strangling my story and characters (in other words, I had to opt for very simple and surface level development because I didn't have enough words to invest in...well anything). Now I've done some cleaning, I freed a lot more space and oh my god, I can now develop my characters properly and put some depth into my story because it's a lot more focused and contained.
    And believe it or not, but you managed to make me realize that by reacting to my first chapter only (which is crazy to me).
    and now that video, just to give me some additional tools to succeed. Yes! (imagine a fist pump here)

    • @Jed_Herne
      @Jed_Herne  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad to help, and glad to know you enjoyed the first chapter course!

  • @FarooqKhanx-mk5jv
    @FarooqKhanx-mk5jv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Woe 🎉 congratulations on 100k subs

  • @XVendevion
    @XVendevion 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Yoooooo nice video, as well as congrats on hitting 100K subs, its been a pleasure to be on this fantasy story writing journey with you :D

  • @Makememesandmore
    @Makememesandmore 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This came out perfect timing! About a year ago, I created an outline for a story, but I didn't feel the motivation to write it and it didn't fit as well as I would've liked. Only a couple weeks ago, I decided I wanted to take one of my new ideas seriously and it's fun to see how it's developing as I add more ideas, more concepts and remove ones that don't work. And then this banger of a video comes out!

  • @j.g.1418
    @j.g.1418 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Next video please: 1st Person vs 3rd Person Close vs 3rd Person Omniscient | Combination of both 1st Person and 3rd Person Close Good? how do you make it work?

  • @audiobookemperor
    @audiobookemperor 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for making this in depth video! I'm a working dad who can't really afford the boot camp but this is a great tool for me to use.

  • @FlyingJay-qh2xw
    @FlyingJay-qh2xw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This video is amazing! Parts I didn't know needed refined got refined. Story elements I struggled with finally made sense, and I finally feel super motivated to write. I especially love the 9-point outline of the plot.

  • @Alura1111
    @Alura1111 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love how you provide a power point and examples in your videos. Informative, as always.

  • @POTATO-pl8kt
    @POTATO-pl8kt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just have to say that I truly appreciate your advice and videos.
    I am working on learning game development to tell the stories set within a fantasy world I have been building on/off for years.
    I cant express enough how much I appreciate you using such detail in explaining these methods of plot/theme/character development.

  • @Me_And_My_Monkee
    @Me_And_My_Monkee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Поздравляю с 100 тысячами подписчиков. Крутое видео!

  • @laweenerafiqahmed3293
    @laweenerafiqahmed3293 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Saul goodman is a character who blurs the line between flat and negative arc.
    Only in his last moments choosing the truth and becoming a positive arc

  • @michaelbenf
    @michaelbenf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is soo helpful. And so timely, haha I was literally sitting down today to do some outlining for my fantasy series! Thank you Jed!!

  • @captainuseless2120
    @captainuseless2120 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man. This video has been crazy helpful. I’ve been hovering on the edge of an outline for so dang long, with a proper theme “how far can a leader go to protect his own before he becomes a villain?”, most of the major plot points, and character arcs more or less figured out. This video has finally given me the structure to get it down on paper in a coherent way. Hope to start the first draft within a few weeks!

  • @mrinalhi
    @mrinalhi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Congrats on 100k 🎉

  • @JushawnLucas-j7v
    @JushawnLucas-j7v 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Wow the quality is upped in this video great work jed

  • @AmongusAmongus-tj1wr
    @AmongusAmongus-tj1wr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    you're the goat jed stay on the grind

  • @JustClaude13
    @JustClaude13 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I start with an image. My current NaNoWriMo project started with a dream. As I walked through a desert, a monster confronted me. I grabbed the throat and the monster collapsed into a pile of small desert animals. When I woke up I asked myself, "Who would create a spell like that, and why?"
    The rest of the story developed from that.

  • @rant1p0le
    @rant1p0le 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You always upload the perfect solution to my writing struggles at the right time thank you 😭

  • @quixcover
    @quixcover 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My best experience is writing an outline is by starting with theme. Most fantasy elements are analogies for real world conflict. By startjng with a theme and building the conflict, characters, and setting around the exploration of your theme, it keeps the story tight.

  • @abdallahaly1131
    @abdallahaly1131 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really thank you for this video. I was thinking about writing my webnovel and thought I had the rough idea ready. needless to say, I was severely wrong.
    The amount of ideas I got while listening to this video are phenomenal. I just got my notebook and will start outlining my story; trust me to sign up for your bootcamp once I get the chance too!

  • @kctravis8122
    @kctravis8122 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    7min in 3 references to the bootcamp and for each reference a clip of someone saying it’s good. Too much. One advertisement per vid dude.

  • @werewolffstudios
    @werewolffstudios 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Congratulations on 100,000 subscribers mate! 🎉 Some of the best and most helpful writing advice on the platform 😃 Thank you for all the help you’ve given all of us!

  • @justguy-4630
    @justguy-4630 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hey, I'm a new subscriber. I gotta say. I love your content so far.

  • @Has9Abid1
    @Has9Abid1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tbh, this is the most life-changing advise i've ever heard of. Jed should've posted this earlier.

  • @jj-sc1kq
    @jj-sc1kq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With the story I was working on, I've done most of the plot outlining and I've thought about character needs and all (due to the nutshell method) But something about this towards the end feels different and useful. I'll have to watch this again.
    Sometimes I feel like my biggest issue when outlining is the scaling. Maybe what I'm thinking though is more complicated than I should be trying at this time.

  • @3dchick
    @3dchick 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is sooooo helpful! Yes I wish I could do the full workshop but I'm going to lose my job soon and can't justify it. Thank you for putting this out for those like me. ❤

  • @harjeet-music
    @harjeet-music 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for that video! I found the concept of the story triangle especially useful; I had all those ideas about my characters, but I didn't have enough "meat" in my plot and setting to make my outline work. Another light bulb on ;)

  • @akashajoti6456
    @akashajoti6456 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m so thankful to have found you!!

  • @ZANwritng
    @ZANwritng 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    AYY congrats on 100k subs my man

  • @gb828
    @gb828 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    honestly it took me writing the premise of his one story of mine to realize that it is very similar to another story I was writing. the difference being the setting and relevance to other stories of mine.

  • @rhos-gfx
    @rhos-gfx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, I'm not even halfway through this video and it's already jam packed with useful info. I had to stop to write stuff down lol. Thank you!

  • @keithg460
    @keithg460 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Lisa Cron calls the Lie the Misbelief, which I think is a better name, personally.
    A good story should have a ghost, but it doesn't need one.
    In Shrek, he doesn't have a specific traumatic event but rather a life long series of events that have shaped him. The world rejects him, so instead of letting that depress him, he lies to himself that he actually wants to be alone.
    This drived his Want: isolation.
    The inciting incident shatters this by having a couple hundred fairy tale creatures dumped on his land.
    This drives the story goal to get his swamp back.
    And it is through that journey that he learns the value of friendship and love, his Need. He almost rejects it, but then makes the choice to sacrifice his Want for his Need, which is when he goes after Fiona.
    Woody in Toy Story likewise does not have a specific Ghost event. His misbelief is that he needs to be the favorite toy, the topdog. This is upset by the iniciting incudent of Buzz's arrival. This drives the Want, to get back on top.
    He makes a mistake by knocking Buzz out the window. This leads to an ammended story goal of getting back home with Buzz, but it is still in service to his Want of being forgiven by the other toys so he can become topdog again.
    Through the journey, he and Buzz become friends and he learns to share. He eventually sacrifices his own happiness for Buzz, demonstrating that he hs given up his Want for the Need of sharing. Buzz saves him, and they become equals.
    An often forgotten part of the story is how the inciting incident shatters their Ordinary World by confronting them with massive conflict against their Want and Misbelief. The inciting incident isn't just what causes the plot, it causes change by forcing them to confront their misbelief. It begins both the external and internal conflicts.

  • @VihaanGupta-l6h
    @VihaanGupta-l6h 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    you are a legend

  • @Makememesandmore
    @Makememesandmore 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Bro, this is gonna be so helpful, I have so many ideas but dunno where to put any of them
    Also, I'm 14, so I might start my journey at the same time you did :)
    Thanks for everything bro

    • @DauraTHEEXPLORA
      @DauraTHEEXPLORA 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good luck with everything 🙏

    • @captainuseless2120
      @captainuseless2120 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As a guy who also started at around that time, I wish I had stuff like this to help me do the work. It’s helped me make a ton of progress, but with college, my time’s a lot more limited. Take advantage of this stuff and just do it! You’ll never regret trying, so long as you write from a place of passion.

    • @jagdishsavita966
      @jagdishsavita966 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too

    • @Makememesandmore
      @Makememesandmore 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@captainuseless2120 Thanks! I actually was trying to make a story last year, but it didn't really fill me with passion as much as this story did! It's called "Light and Shadows" if you're wondering

    • @Makememesandmore
      @Makememesandmore 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DauraTHEEXPLORA Thank you!

  • @Makememesandmore
    @Makememesandmore 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My story is called "Light and Shadows" and my premise is "how far would you be willing to go to get what you want?"
    My favourite part of my magic system is the Shadow. Everyone's got a Shadow. Shadows are basically the worst version of yourself and they WILL do anything to get you to do what they want

  • @runaway7380
    @runaway7380 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been in phase one for ten years! Thank you for this, Jed!

  • @robsright4256
    @robsright4256 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:09 "Success is the ability to go from failure to failure without loosing enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill

  • @thr4wn
    @thr4wn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Insightful! This is not just useful information; this is insightful. Many people on youtube give steps to follow (which is not bad in itself), but you provide insight into why. I feel my paradigm shifting after this. 😄

  • @aire-plane
    @aire-plane 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just started a new story idea and I was having trouble with outlining. Perfect timing! Thanks a lot.

  • @darvish2012
    @darvish2012 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This isn't only for fantasy novels, this is for every novel.

  • @vinsplayer2634
    @vinsplayer2634 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great type of character arc stories can have is that at first the character sort of believes the Truth but doesn't have their Need and doesn't really understand why they believe the Truth, then some external force makes them doubt the Truth and they almost start believing the Lie and trying to get the Want, maybe because of the villain, but then something happens that makes them understand why the Lie is wrong and the Truth is right and what their Need is and then starts fully believing the Truth and gets their Need. So it's pretty much the negative and positive character arcs combined.

  • @Bama_Bill
    @Bama_Bill 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Jed, this video is amazing and makes so much sense. I wish I coud afford your course but living in a nursing home drains my funds but you can bet I will be watching out for more videos!!! Thanks again.

  • @Pannenkoekenplantje
    @Pannenkoekenplantje 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Congrats on 100k :)
    I recently finished my first rough draft, and that took me a year with outline included (1-1,5 hours a day, because work and life). But I must say, it is still useful to think on my premise and the tropes and themes i wanted to go for, and whether they show up enough, going into round 2.
    Premise currently: Pella, an outlawed mage, struggles to find a safe place for her and her partner, so they escape the country to obtain the knowledge they need, to infiltrate the oppressive government and change the rules.
    I want it to include tropes of science fiction, romance, secret agent/spy missions, and magic schools.

  • @dansounddesigner5140
    @dansounddesigner5140 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the chuckle about the Wright brothers "inventing" the airplane hahaha They created a device that could be catapulted and then air-glide for a little while. The inventor of airplanes was Santos Dummont, being the first plane ever, 14-bis.
    Other than that, this is a nice video, besides being a 40 minutes ad.

  • @RubeusArchos
    @RubeusArchos หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't think of my self as a fantasy writer but this is still helpful

  • @jainashjairam3467
    @jainashjairam3467 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Congrats on the subs. I have followed your videos for some time now. They have improved the way I look at stories. The only downside for me is that I write web novels. They use the same basis, but some basic principles don't apply. Like your MC can't have too many failures, and they should appear almost godlike. But still thanks for the free knowledge.

  • @mrbad9171
    @mrbad9171 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    10 % content 90% his boot camp ads

  • @BryanCourtney-x1k
    @BryanCourtney-x1k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the help of the outline I've always thought outlining was stupid and wasted time but this video helped me began writing a outline which is helping me get my idea's out on paper and are coherent finally, I've been trying to write a book for a long time but always stopped because it wasn't what I wanted it to be so now I finally have an outline, btw i'm in highschool and I've finally started writing my outline and going to start writing my first draft next week and hopefully I will be trying to get this publish later next year(2025) or the start of school next year, but this video was a big help in creating a coherent outline so thank you so much...ps sorry for ranting bad habit...

  • @Plotbunnyhunter
    @Plotbunnyhunter 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I see that what you have to say is good, but the constant advertising of your class makes the video borderline unwatchable. I very sure the people who would want tj enroll will do so after you mention the class twice, but the people who wont, won't be convinced otherwise by the fourteenth mention. Genuinely no hate here, just my impression.

    • @vincentvanaustin9575
      @vincentvanaustin9575 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      💯

    • @melissamarsh2219
      @melissamarsh2219 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I am interested in the boot camp, but I’m unsure to sign up due to time zone issues

    • @nataliekaiansley
      @nataliekaiansley 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I agree! I feel like this was just a big advert

  • @morganjones6401
    @morganjones6401 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't understand why so many people are complaining about this video. Sure...he promotes his business, yet so many other channels do that as well.
    Another thing is the lack of creativity I feel from commenters. In the feed below this video are more vids from this guy on multiple aspects of story writing.
    Try this: watch and take notes on this video. From there, figure out what else you need to be successful in other aspects of your novel. World building? There's a video for that.
    Take notes. Action? Vid for that. Take notes. Etc. Etc.
    After all that note taking, you should have enough info to at LEAST write your first outline. If not, you don't want it enough. The guy is dropping jewels and some of you are picking up nickels.

  • @dukeofdenver
    @dukeofdenver 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic video❤ I'll be returning to this many times

  • @sasquatchkidPS3Xx
    @sasquatchkidPS3Xx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, six minutes in here.
    I just wanted to point out an interesting observation/reflection I’ve made.
    I recently read ‘Blood Meridian,’ by Cormac McCarthy. Before each chapter, McCarthy *outlines* events to come in a brief series of single words or sentences. It is GRIPPING, I tell you.
    I liked his style so much that I copied that little process as best I could in this draft I’m currently working on. And it has made writing what follows incredibly enjoyable and interesting.
    Something about outlining those general narrative ideas for my sessions (I am not going to “chapter” anything for a while) has almost given me a ‘mad lib’ esque rubric to follow while writing.
    I’m curious to see where your video is going, and I’m already pulled in. I foresee an enlightening, validating experience!

  • @blakeclifton9231
    @blakeclifton9231 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dude, I get it, you are running a boot camp. Tell me 1,000 more times.

  • @jamesalexanderjimenez-medi7667
    @jamesalexanderjimenez-medi7667 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Congrats on 100k Jed well deserved

  • @Hhgbyygbhhuh
    @Hhgbyygbhhuh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just found your channel ive watched several videos but wow this one really really helped me thank you !

  • @Arestal77
    @Arestal77 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was very helpful, thank you

  • @Tora-no-shi
    @Tora-no-shi หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One big infomercial for the bootcamp. I can't afford it. I will never be able to afford it. I have a set income. It goes for bills and food, that is all I can afford. I am close to leaving as a watcher.
    These videos used to be very helpful, but now they are just infomercials for something that I won't be able to be a part of.

  • @jj-sc1kq
    @jj-sc1kq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I had the cash right now I'd consider the boot camp. It's an interesting video. Thanks

  • @DaltonKevinM
    @DaltonKevinM 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am usually pretty aware of my "core." Is this why I have such trouble with length? Furthermore, in my opinion, the theme is "the premise about the world that must be true for the main character's ultimate success or ultimate failure to occur"-one outcome being guaranteed by the truth of the theme-while the character's fear of the premise that leads to failure drives their actions and decisions throughout the story.

  • @scribe_thrive
    @scribe_thrive 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    Sorry, bro. Although you have a lot of great advice, your videos are always so bad plugged with marketing your books, game, and high priced writing course that they're just starting to feel to me like the junk folder of my emails. Little value compared to all of the BUY THIS, BUY THIS, BUY THIS! that you might as well be saying to us. By the way, I didn't say what I did from a place of negativity or trolling. I meant it with all due respect, especially when you're more accomplished than I am. It truly is just a little constructive criticism. Watching some videos by Alex Hormozie on his thoughts about Call To Actions might be more insightful and better explained than how I can explain it.

    • @mattfarr137
      @mattfarr137 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I was thinking the same thing haha

    • @elijaheumags5060
      @elijaheumags5060 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Probably he didn't know this, but this is a marketing blunder. Yes, you can promote your stuff, but keep it at a minimum, so that it doesn't sound too pushy.

    • @scribe_thrive
      @scribe_thrive 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@elijaheumags5060 agreed

    • @isaklagerlof9945
      @isaklagerlof9945 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Gotta pay the bills somehow🤷

    • @scribe_thrive
      @scribe_thrive 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@isaklagerlof9945 I understand and I agree. Which is why I believe it would better benefit him if he were to provide as much valuable content as possible without being so pushy with his products. He would retain more viewers that way.

  • @hortencya302
    @hortencya302 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A story I have been writing on and off since my teen years is about a character that gets abducted from his homeworld and has his memories erased and rewritten. This result in two different characters that intertwine through the "lie" that is represented by a third character that is litterally an inner demon and force of evil with its own motivation to get free to corrupt the world around it which it cannot while still trapped inside the main character.

  • @khydo
    @khydo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hey there’s a little bit on an instructional video in your advertisement

  • @Drakuba
    @Drakuba 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the "idea" approach works in gamedevelopment as well :D Tho we are a bit harsher: Ideas are worthless everyone have ideas, untill you actually program those ideas into "tangible" results they are not worth squat

  • @wasikancb
    @wasikancb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    19:25 I think the video got a little corrupted there.

    • @Mykal06
      @Mykal06 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol yea I saw that as your comment popped up haha.
      But yea, I’m mainly replying here because I’m a Christian and wanted to share the gospel with you! Please consider the Gospel message.
      To anyone reading this,
      there is a loving God who wants to save you. And because He loves us, He (Jesus) died on the cross and resurrected 3 days later so we can be forgiven of our sins and be saved. Repent and believe the Gospel! Please consider the state of your soul, don't let this chance pass you by. Believe in Jesus and follow Him so you can have salvation. Life is short, please make the right choice today before its too late. Jesus loves you.

    • @wasikancb
      @wasikancb หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mykal06 didn't ask.
      Also, imo "the Bible" is one of the worst fantasy books ever written. So many inconsistencies, open plot lines, unnecessary plot lines and tangents and overall repetitive, cruel and boring to read. The people who wrote that should have outlined their story before writing it lol.
      But yeah, it's a great example of how your fantasy novel shouldn't look.
      It's quite frustrating to read if you open your mind and actually think about what you're reading. Also, should be heavily age restricted; has depictions of sexually explicit content, extreme violence, multiple genocides, racism, slavery and some other pretty heavy topics. Nothing for kids.
      I don't get how that can be the favorite book of some people, but everyone can have their own opinion...
      I'd give it a solid rating of 1.5/10 not recommended
      /hj
      If you didn't expect a reply like this when posting a reply to a comment of someone with a blåhaj pfp on a video about how to write a great fantasy novel, then I'm not really sure what you expected lol. Maybe try to post relevant comments next time...
      Also, if you get angry, you don't understand what a joke is lol

  • @guillaumejoly6469
    @guillaumejoly6469 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Jed!

  • @devindaniels1634
    @devindaniels1634 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is some great info, though I'll second that your videos would improve by turning down the marketing a bit. Have confidence in your own advice and creations, you don't need to keep bringing it back to what you're selling every few minutes. Establish your expertise, present your advice, and then make the sale at the point the value is strongest.
    I genuinely do enjoy your videos and would personally find them more enjoyable and your advertising more appealing with the frequency turned down.

  • @Atrulion
    @Atrulion 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    About the "Exploring the Suburb", honestly, if you know little of, for example, cyberpunk, but have a vague idea, I think it'd be extremely cool if you tried your best at writing a novel of cyberpunk, because then we'd get a very original cyberpunk story that sticks out with unique ideas and concepts, and while that's not always positive, it can be massively positive if done right.

  • @LosAnggraito
    @LosAnggraito 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Are there any other writers out there with ADHD that try to follow these story structures but find them absolutely daunting? If I deviate from how I naturally outline, my whole story (and sometimes motivation) falls apart.

    • @anthonywritesfantasy
      @anthonywritesfantasy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Such a great question! If you have trouble, the Jim Butcher "Scene/Sequel" paradigm might be a good thing to try out. It's simple, but broad. But also...
      Tools not rules.
      Every weakness is actually a clue to what your superpower is. Maybe structure is your kryptonite, but Character is your Xray vision. Jordan Peele says "Follow the Fun," and Anne Rice says "Go where it hurts, and go where the pleasure is."
      Only you can write what's in your heart.

  • @joes_bankaccount
    @joes_bankaccount 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am literally struggling so bad with my outline rn 😭😭😭😭😭

  • @TonyRaincoat
    @TonyRaincoat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I dig your videos, and I’ve been watching since you started so I’m going to throw some unsolicited advice into the mix here:
    Chill on the product placement. You don’t need to mention your products so often. I understand that you want people to know about your offerings, especially considering the amount of value you provide here in TH-cam for free, but it was too much in this video.

  • @snowieboi4131
    @snowieboi4131 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey. Good job on reaching 100k!

  • @Makememesandmore
    @Makememesandmore 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My magic system (Light and Shadows) implies that everyone has a Shadow and they are basically the worst version of yourself, and they can do all sorts of stuff to try and get you to do stuff you don't wanna do. It's very important when it comes to my main character and I don't know if she should have a positive or a negative arc because of it, as my story allows both

  • @Joshuazx
    @Joshuazx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    28:27: 5 core character arc components: ghost (past trauma causing a weakness or flaw), lie (the lie they believe about themselves or the world), want (something they think they want), need (what they actually need), truth (to help them overcome the lie). This is a good checklist for inner conflict. Positive, Negative, and Flat character arcs: good checklists!
    Where's the hot tip on good EXTERNAL conflict?

  • @BenJonesart
    @BenJonesart หลายเดือนก่อน

    wish i could afford a program like this sigh

  • @khecidsdragons7777
    @khecidsdragons7777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Bow tie!

  • @cintiaferreira4950
    @cintiaferreira4950 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you Jed for all your dedication to these videos. Greetings from Portugal
    If one day you want to give a creative writing workshop, I'm sure you would be successful👏 I don't care if it's in English, it has quality.

  • @LunaKilo
    @LunaKilo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video

  • @modelworkzseo
    @modelworkzseo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Here’s a golden story nugget: WHY DON’T YOU SHILL OUT YOUR COURSE A BIT MORE 😂🤣

    • @captainuseless2120
      @captainuseless2120 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, he does do a lot of self-promo, but he also gives a ton of genuinely good advice, so I think it's reasonable to try and get some $$$ from those people who really are committed.

  • @XavierSchwindt
    @XavierSchwindt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yet another great and helpful video! What tool are you using for the bullet points and showing the charts and talking head? Blessings!

  • @Gnostic_Plague
    @Gnostic_Plague หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remain surprised by how much good advice you give after listening to the first several chapters of one of your books and every dialogue tag is “[Character name] frowned.” I would suggest an editor, and of course to read your work out loud, but since you literally read your own audiobook of it, I’m at a loss for how it didn’t get caught before publishing.

  • @attackthis18
    @attackthis18 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why is it that every one of your videos that I've watched just seem like a plug for your writing boot camp and not a TH-cam video? Great advice, but you push that boot camp waaaaaay too much.

  • @pandora6790
    @pandora6790 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My brother in Christ the ammount of ads you put on your videos is unbearable. There are a couple other authors out there who also put ads on their videos but handle them much better honestly. This didn't need to be a 40 min video with 15 mins of ads, you could probably have made a 20 min video with 3 to 5 mins of ads and there would be much more value to your content. I'm not trying to be rude seriously, your videos are usually helpful but at this point I just want to pay you to shut up about your books, I'm here for the knowledge. Sorry.