Aussie scientists discover GAME CHANGING easy way to recycle solar panels
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- Aussie scientists discover GAME CHANGING easy way to recycle solar panels
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So much room for improvement with Agri photovoltaic. There's no reason why crops can't be planted among panels. Plants are protected from storms, drought, freezing, along with using far less water, while cooling the panels making them more efficient.
And as floating coverage of dams and ponds, to stop the evaporation. They will have the dual benefit of preserving the water and increase the efficiency of the panels.
In some instances but I believe many crops want max sun exposure. Obviously it takes a tiny fraction of farm land. Individual home owners can often produce more power than they can use for home and cars, urban and industry will need more than their roofs and parking lots tho.
I’m afraid not, crops need the sun not shade in almost all cases and solar panels make it very difficult to use mechanical machinery to harvest efficiently.
In Denmark we use the land under the panels for sheeps, grass might grow a little slower, but it will grow anywhere, there's also crops that like shade, especially in a warm environment.
@@Mrbfgray - lol not in the world I inhabit - a lot of crops, especially many "small crops" wither and die in direct sun - unless extremely well hydrated subsoil. Partial shade can work wonders (succession planting works too) - a bit of a short of CO2 makes them more heat and reduced water tolerant.. win win... - increase height of frames - use for trellis... and low head machinery can move beneath (more like an open sided greenhouse than a broad acre setup)...
Many naysayers aren't exactly problem solvers - in either camp - company boards all over are full of the "already" achieved, self satisfied - just preparing to curl up and die in a nice comfortable coffin, succession all sorted.
Sam, I'm a longtime follower of your channel, I love most of your videos, although some of them are a little out there. I'm worried about your health! I believe you may be among the most prodigious producer of TH-cam videos in the world. Mate, please take a breather. I want to be watching you 5 years from now. Love you, man!!
My assumption is that Sam's current earnings from TH-cam and Patreon is sufficient to provide a comfortable living for a healthy family, but is insufficient to also pay for his wife's $10K+/week cancer treatment, and so Sam is working extra hard to increase the number of daily videos in the hope that this will increase his TH-cam and Patreon income. If he can raise his income to meet living expenses plus $10K+/week cancer treatment, then this will mean he can afford to pay for the cancer treatments indefinitely. Even if he falls short of reaching that financial goal, the more money he can earn the slower his bank balance will deplete, and hence the longer he will be able to afford to continue paying for his wife's cancer treatment.
Thanks Mate!
Wow, unlike a lot of surprising ideas that come out of nowhere, this sounds like it should really work and would be simple and cheap to implement.
A brief Internet search only revealed the guy (Veetil) who led "a team of researchers" making the discovery but I can't find anything else about the details of the IP.
It looks like he's associated with a couple of Aussie universities and maybe a private company.
If IP or licensing obstacles are low, I'd like to next hear of a commercial implementation of his procedure.
Solar farms normally replace solar panels when they lose 10% of their voltage... about 5 to 8 years. I bought used one because with MPPT controllers they can be used long past their normal rated lifespan (20% voltage drop).
Like you said Sam great news for the solar panel industry.
Interesting to note too this is not the first time micro waves have been of great benifit to mankind apart from tele communication satelite dishes and food cooking.
They also saved the cork industry by killing mold and bacteria (trichlor-anisol, or TCA) in corks which was becoming a big problem thus saving wine from being tainted. This problem could not be stopped by other means and nearly bankrupted the billion dollar industry.
Because of this, these large micro wave appliances are likely to already be in production or just need adapting.
Couldn't they just have used something other than cork? Just a thought
@@coolranch1660 I much prefer an aluminum cap. But cork is a renewable material. Sure beats plastic.
I watched a video year or two back by a guy who got all these old broken solar panels for free and got them working again. It was just a matter of replacing some failed transistors and he got them working again.
They replace solar panels when they become less efficient......you and I don't worry too much about efficiency when a panel is producing power still because we have nothing to compare then to. and the Sun doesn't always shine brightly every day.
Failed diodes most likely :)
@@powerbuoy Yep that's it. He found some replacements that worked and hey presto, free power from free panels :)
I've got to find where you get these panels! I'm an EE and there isn't anything I haven't fixed.
Reminds me of the inventor from the Gold Coast who used microwaves to break ground up tyres back into carbon black and the oils they are made from.
Yesterdays landfills are tomorrows mines. Great to see a solution to this problem
Viking, glad to see some info on recycling of solar panels. Like most tech, as it matures, solutions to the various problems are found. Great news for Solar!!
There is a strong second hand market here in the UK. Even faulty ones are being used for shed roofs, gazebos, car ports etc.
this guy is great
Hi Sam,
Thank you.
Fantastic news, like most I recently installed solar panels, our neighbour has a system perhaps 8 years old, and your right these panels get dumped.
So this is brilliant news, for the environment.
Great posts
I wonder if the crushed cleaned panels can be re-smelted. This wasn't viable before due to contamination.
Brilliant!!!
Most exhaust that you can see from coal fired electricity plants is water vapour.
The real CO2 is invisible, as are other waste gases.
The particles are removed, and the gas dumped up the stacks unseen.
Encouraging news, and it is news to me. Appreciate you researching these stories Sam.
Great news, and this should also be an inspiration for all new battery developments: along with the announcement should be recycling guide so that users will know that it is possible and practical to recycle.
For this to progress quickly and ethically it needs to be adopted by an innovative progressive Company. This seems an ideal add on to Redwood battery recying set up by JB Straubel, one of Tesla's co founders. He might have some useful contacts/knowledge and vision to get behind this innovative project
Or the chinese government because so far it the only functioning and usefull government we have. Especially when it comes to climate
Sounds like it helps with disassembly, not break down of the actual silicon cells to recover the exotic elements.
Wait a minute…. There are Aussie scientists?! Other than marine biologists?! I’m jk… this is great news!
Great video thanks that’s awesome
Large, industrial, microwave ovens already exist and are used in many industries. Scaling up this process is a matter of willpower and investment as the technology has existed for over 2 DECADES but the PROCESS wasn't developed. The first to build out a facility will make a fortune.
Great news and its only going to keep getting better
Solar panels don't really go bad unless physically damaged There is no reason not to replace them unless there is a limitation on the space to use them.
The output may degrade by 20 percent or so but can remain useful if the price is right.
- hence why upgrading persons are able to "sell" their maturing asset - to be reutilised in Africa, Asia and South America. The waste by and large will be their problem, not ours.
- just like many massive waste problems, dumping unwanted waste on the poor leads to exacerbated enviro and social harm (but we are helping them - by feeding them our trash... - fix those problem eco-socio- greenie doo-lallies, do some real good with your ESR garbage..
Unfortunately, there is often a limited amount of space available for installing solar panels. For example, many houses in the UK have a roof that is large enough for only, say, 2KW to 4KW of solar panels at today's efficiency rating of new solar panels (which is sufficient to reduce, but not wipe out a house's energy bill). So if a UK home owner wants to install solar panels with the goal of decreasing their energy bill, then they might prefer to pay more to install high-efficiency solar panels than pay less to install lower-efficiency solar panels.
This "limited roof space" issue can be significant when you consider that the efficiency of solar panel technology has been slowly improving over the decades. Let's assume solar panels made in 1995 were 15% efficient and their efficiency has decreased 20% since then, so they are now only 12% efficient. Modern solar panels might be up to 25% efficient, so the modern solar panels are about twice as efficiency as the 28-year-old degraded panels. Even if you were offered the 12% efficiency solar panels free of charge, the labour to install them on your roof and connect them to your electrical system is not free, so it may still make financial sense to decline the offer of the free solar panels and instead pay for modern, twice-as-efficient solar panels to be installed on your roof.
We’re all in gathering photons from the sun and we are all for free speech. I started using ARCO solar panels back in 1979 so I’m used to innovation and design improvements. This finding value in trash is normal. Just enjoy the ride dude. Use innovation as its developed and go ahead and dispose of non-functional panels until there’s a better solution. Junkyards are great places because they keep old non working stuff out of your yard! Love your channel! Deep breath please!
About those microwave parishioners. I believe it is called The Church of Appliantology.
This process should be scalable and adaptable to a continuous process. Similar high power microwave generators are used to cure adhesive or dry wood. They need to feed a constant stream of full panels in one end and have stripped panels out the other. I've designed and built similar radar transmitters.
The ironic thing about so called clean energy solar is you need coal to make the silica in the solar panels and other heavy metals that need to be mined to make the panels, solar is far from clean energy. Great in theory but consuming lots of energy to make the panels between mining, manufacturing, shipping, never mind the massive amounts of water needed in the manufacturing process., only to end up discarding them in 15 to 25 years.
Nuclear power is the most practical clean green energy available.
To me, it sounds a bit early to get exited.
Wonderful work 🎉
This isn’t going to recover the materials in EXISTING solar panels. It is a method of manufacture that allows FUTURE panels to be recycled. Am I right? Or have I misunderstood the video?
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This is great news, thanks for sharing.
Good news!
coal. gas, deisel is not recyclable
Great news! What do they do with the material after it goes through the microwave?
Nice channel and likable host.
That said…..This video was filled with opinions based on conjecture and zero numbers.
Really, giant microwaves? Wonder where the energy is gunna come from for that…..
I'm not anti-renewables, I just don't support the technology uptake before it is proven.
The problem is that if you bought a solar system to go off grid and you spent, say 50 grand, with batteries, you would still have to stop using basically everything at night and you would be constantly in danger of running out of power unless it was a perfect day outside.
Stick everyone on a solar grid and the cost and infrastructure requirements are beyond excessive, even with wind and hydro. The baseload backup requirements are almost the same as our current grid to support a renewables grid!
A good start. Removing the lead and cadmium from new panels still needs to happen.
Thanks for this video it's good to know because I am Investing and helping people to invest in the Solar Energy to Sunmoney the biggest energetic community, where people make money from renewable energy and protect the environment but many times when I explain about the solar company I become question what will be with the solar panels in the future and so on now I can show your Video. Thanks for the info I know that I have invested in a perfect place not that I generate for me monthly passive income I do something good for the world and I make money I help also other to and with your videos I learn so much about solar energy so thanks again
This will shut a lot of people up. So tired of people saying going green is not going green.
Eagle eye Sam! 😎
One thing is for certain, it WILL happen.
Great video ❤👍
Thank you 🤗
KEEP US UPDATED please
Solar is great as long as the sun shines
Always a controversial move to state: "there needs to be a problem first - in order to find a solution to that problem", and, perhaps, THAT, is what separates human from the rest of the animal kingdom! HA!!
Thanks for posting this video's information to us all.
Whaaat...a church in the states trying to peddle a scam , never 😂
Footnote : did they have to remove their tin foil hats before they got microwaved???
I have a dumb question.....Why can't you just install new panels on top of old panel on site? I mean you couldn't do it multiple times due to the weight but much like shingle roofing ("back in the day") you could add a second layer to the same framework?
This is future
Cool.
Recycling and repurposing of solar panels in the US has a long way to go. But things are looking up!
@@SunriseLAW that’s really good to hear! Thanks…
Dumping them in the garbage, who would have guessed! Wow, did not see that one coming. 😊. Fancy giving neigh sayers any ammunition!
Stewardship, recycling, energy use, cost and who will do the processing all come to mind.
Lets see it scaled up as there are a lot of used panels out there. Now would be good, and not in 10 years time.
Good video
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Oh, & I have a warehouse full of old solar panels!!!!
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Nice
We have Coal, oil, and gas for several hundred years at least
what can i do with solar panel glass? is it considered safe or contaminated?
I don't get it. Solar panels slowly decline in output, but they don't stop producing. I have a friend, an EE, in the business with a national, reputable company. The latest generation of panels loses well under 1% efficiency per year.
In a solar installation, the only costs out side of the panels, is the cost of the land and the ongoing taxes, which we can presume is very low. In fifty years, the panels will still be making electricity at almost no cost.
Hey man your content b good.
I guess the giant microwave is powered by a giant solar panel!
If possible, every EV owner should put solar on their roof. Government incompetence is ensuring that there will be insufficient electricity for households over the next few years. This they are doing by
1. Shutting down power plants without real replacement
2. Pushing people away from gas when there is not enough electricity to satisfy demand now
3. Refusing to build nuclear which plainly the best solution
4. Generating red tape. If they were as good at generating electricity, we would be fine
Massive microwaves operating in a continuous process line. Pet food industry has entered the chat…
I bought a 2013 Nissan Leaf with it's horrible 35 miles range in the winter. And now Tesla has 400+ miles cars. This is the fault of the oil industry which paid to attack all green technologies for decades and totally destroyed any progress. Or should I say for over a century.
Patent pending means nothing in terms of efficacy.
Recycling battery packs and solar panels = 💰🙏🌎
Much like the Aptera, I'm waiting for solar tech to reach the point of wide spread adoption. Given the wider adoption of solar in AU, recycling will become a growing issue.
Do you live under a rock?
This Awesome News! What kind of chemical are they using, and is the chemical safe for the environment?
Where are they going to put the chemical when the chemical it is no longer usable?
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Australia, unbelievably, still has landfill...
Hi all in this video you commented on the cost per watt hour as a person living on solar fulltime i posted the following years ago but no one has corrected me so i will add it and please give real feed back but please no comments of your position educate but me ,,,
The idea that green energy will pay for itself is a joke and hears why ,,, Do you really think a solar panel actually cost $350 to get out of the ground and processed assembled shipped trucked to shops and shipped to your house and fitted for that amount REALLY ? Of course not the first thing to happen when the mine site is looked at ,, before a machine is started ,, both the local and state gov gives them money call it what you will it is a rebait- incentive payment and is ongoing as long as the mine runs and that happens all the way to your roof AND it is no different for wind farms THE POWER IS NOT WELL PRICED YOU HAVE PAID FOR IT LONG BEFORE YOU USE IT AND AGAIN WHEN YOU GET A BILL!!
Sam, I am confused. When I researched Solar PV Cells before installing my 10Kw system I learned that the panels would generate over 90% as much power after 30 years. Was this research inaccurate? Are there other reasons to discard Panels?
Industry standard is 80% after 25 years.
This is a minimum.
When you have millions of things there will be thousands that break. Connections can go bad, diodes fry, panels are damaged. They are repairable but time is money.
People got 1.5kwh systems 15/20 years ago with 200 watt panels . Now you can put a 6kwh system on your roof for cheaper price and its easier to just replace whole system with 400kw panels than try and add to an existing system.
Lead in solar panels? Where did that come from?
Solder. These days lead-free solder is used, but not in those 50 year old panels from the 1970's.
I hate patents. If this is working well, it could really be a game changer and if the patent is either too expensive or they won't even sell it to other companies, there will be no large scale adoption of the process. It could be the best method to be discovered for the next 10 years, if they are greedy, it doesn't matter. This would be great for planet earth and save a lot of panels from going to the landfill.
- "mother" doesn't care what you bury in her bowels, or jam between her ribs... - wasting aggregated resources hurts humanity however - have you seen the $h!t the "mother " spews out of her pimples and a$$holes... - not to mention the pustules excavated in minesites, toxic as all getout, lol... its as if mama is trying to kill us all anyhow...
Spoken by a socialist with little understanding of economics. Why would someone have to work for free for you?
If you believe in American capitalism, innovation, or science, then you shouldnt be scared of innovation. Yes its a problem initially, but it then creates new opportunity for new industries and business market.
Countries should figure out a way to recycle the lithium ion batteries too.
Solar panels contain only a fraction of a percentage of lead, as lead is too susceptible to corrosion to be useful. Most of the metal in PV modules is aluminum (both as the framing and conductors), followed by copper, tin, and silver. The average gallon of unleaded gasoline or petrol contains more lead than a PV module, as each gallon of unleaded gasoline can contain as much as 0.05 grams of lead.
The difference being that we all breathe burned gasoline, and not solar panel vapor. Most are also free of lead due to ROHS regulations.
Please just use Celsius. 95% of the worlds population are using SI units.
@iscadean Do both.
@iscadean I'm often tempted to recommend that too. But considering the large number of knuckleheaded living fossils, let's stick to mentioning the silly units within brackets after the real, modern, artifact-free SI units.
Those that use Fahrenheit are Burma, Liberia and the US of A. These are also the three countries that sill use Imperial measure for distance and volume. The advanced nations use SI.
Coal power plants get thrown in the trash (destroyed) over time as well.
- well Genius - present a solution (not that one doesn't already exist). Ignorance is key - most heavy industrial plant gets recycled- like 100% - ok 95%... 90% - you know a lot... ha ha...
Except in Europe, where they reopen them
When everything is GAME CHANGING, nothing is game changing.
It is a form of "survivorship bias" because this channel focuses only on game changing technology and ignores the rest.
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If so, then why use microwaves?
Farmers can keep animals warm with microwave
Fahrenheit? Really?
Lot of talk didn't see anything. I live offgrid my solar output is about 15kw average per day. That's about the same as my ongrid hous. But the 2 aren't at all comparable. Solar is not cheaper or cleaner than any other form of energy, just different. And alternative energy won't be able to replace current energy sources in our lifetime. Land use for so-called renewable energy is unsustainable. Nuclear power is a much smaller footprint and a more reliable source.
Why not encase the entire SOLAR PANEL like a modern cellphone? Just buff the surface every 20 years or so..😅.. that should extend there life by decades 😉 or not
China: what patent? :D
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I hope one day the air will be so clean we'll have to pump Co2 into the air to keep our forests alive.
copper thin metal film solar super hot air balloon sausage is totally self-powered, by the sun
I like sausages with a bit of spicy mustard and some cheese scattered on there too
@@coolranch1660 and cows (sausages) fly now
@@coolranch1660 well what I meant that a copper foil balloon is a super simple solar heat collector volume, you dont have to build a box or tube or anything, just fill the thing with hot air, and it will do the rest
@@coolranch1660 luckily the copper has a dark golden brown look to it, like your sausages :)
fossil fuels are great. they are cheap and good.
I will be first
Let's say I want to generate 1,000 watts 24/7 for 10 years - how would you do it?
Well for 4 hours a day you will average 75% full power and for 4 hours 50% power and for 16 hours nothing.
Seasonal changes in the sun and dust on the panels and cloudy days cut that in half
So I can generate from a 100W panel 4hrs*75%*100W=300watts per day in prime time
before and after prime time 4hrs*50%*100W=200Watts per day
That's 500 Watts per day and 1/2 of that is 250Watts per day
I would need 1,000W/hr*24hrs/250W = 96 panels are needed
and I need to buy a battery that can store 24hrs*1,000W/hr= 24 kWh -for 3 days backup = 72kwh
A 100W solar panel costs about $100 and I need 96 of them = $9,600
A 72kWh battery like in my Tesla Model Y costs about $10,000
So I'd have to spend almost $20,000 to reliably generate 1 kWh of power 24/7.
There is no way under the sun that solar is cheaper than natural gas.
There are 8760 hours in a year, you need to generate 8760 kWh of power. I spent $20,000 on a solar system years ago and my system generated 17,396 kWh last year (2022), more than double what you're talking about. Now yes I'd need to add battery storage, but I have no idea what your use case is to generate 1000 watts continuous, you clearly just made that up. That's not how electrical consumption works. Overall my panels generated more power than my total electric consumption including heating my house and hot water (all electric) as well as my transportation in my electric car.
Your mistakes should be a warning to everyone who tries to substitute Ideology for Reason.
Companies are shutting down their coal and gas fired power plants while Solar and Wind capacity grows and grows. Why do you think that is? You think those businesses are giving up fossil fueled plants for something that costs twice as much?
Nope. Renewables are now cheaper than fossil power plants. And even better, Renewable energy is *distributed*.
@Guy Gordon but they have no option other than going with what the government puts into law
Which part of that do you not understand? 0:02 Are you so gullible as to believe that energy companies, forced to spend billions of dollars on this nonsense, will not recover that cost from the consumer? We have yet to see a large scale example of lower electricity prices after the adoption of renewables. And never will. Enjoy the cost increases, they are already here, because of ignorant people who are in fear of what they have been duped into believing .
@@guygordon2780 Coal use in Europe has gone up since last year
Nobody pays $1 USD/ Watt for solar panels. That was true in 2015. Consumer retail is now more like $0.60/ Watt.
To your point of natural gas being cheaper, you need to know that utility-scale solar, in projects of > 5 MW costs $1.01 Watt for the complete system except the land it sits on. "Complete" means write the check and a few months later, switch it on. This is the 2022 Q4 USA average per the SEIA industry association. Solar produces electricity with zero cost of fuel and zero cost for ash disposal.
Funny enough, consumers are concerned about solar not being available at night. The electric generating companies are concerned about the lowest cost. I wonder why the consumers don't want lowest cost?
How about don't coat it in this plastic in d first place
I believe they are referring to the Tedlar back sheet that protects the cells from the weather.
"game changing" ugh
Don’t see why you needed to bring up a cult from 70 years ago to compare it to recycling. Maybe it’s to ding religion. Maybe spiritual practice would help your wife.
Not a cult. A fraud designed to extract money from the gullible.