Why is there even a discussion? The most elegant weapon for a more civilized age is obviously a lightsaber. Just make sure you have the high ground! :D
Maybe we should mention more explicately that the Katana is more a relative to the Small Sword than anything else here - the Tachi is a war sword, to be worn and used in battle, the Katana is a weapon for the non-military context, hence it's appearance *after* the conclusion of the Sengoku Jidai. It's also ever so slightly slower than a Longsword or a properly weighted Kriegsmesser (and this *explicitly* excludes the Cold Steel item...) because of it's weight distribution. It's by no means a *bad* sword, but it's a civilian context weapon, not meant to be fielded in war and this should always remain in the back of our heads when talking about the Katana - much like the late medieval/early modern treatises of the Longsword also imply it's a weapon not meant to be used in armoured combat and the sword in general and everywhere has always been much more of sidearm with extreme prestige than a primary weapon of war, this role was fulfilled in Europe as well as Japan (and elsewhere) by a combination of ranged weapons (bows, crossbows, later the arquebus, again in both cultures) and pole-arms. Best regards Raoul G. Kunz
@@mbpaintballaIn reality, the katana or Tachi were produced in good quality, obviously it depended on who paid as well. What is certain is that Japan is an archipelago with little iron but enough to supply its armies.
The Szablya is NOT from the 15th century My people used it even back in times of the 9th century, when arrived in nowdays Hungary - and even earlier Polish warriors also used Szablya - with very minor differences to the Hungarian weapon Hard to tell, who used it first - and we don't care - Hussars are just awesome
There are archeological evidence, that in the 9th-10th century a slightly curved version of saber was already in use by hungarians. Pre-dating these there are examples of the sarmatian-hun and avar periods of Carpathian-basin. In the Hungarian National Museum you can check how they looked like. The saber itself evolved during the centuries, but as it was ineffective against heavy armor, hungarians used mainly double edged swords. The few number (cca. 150 sabers) of these swords from that era, their golden and silver decorations and the rich burials in which these were found suggests that only high ranking elite used it at the time. The best preserved one is in Vienna, called the "Saber of Charlemagne". How it arrived into german terrritory is disputed, but it's possibly a gift from hungarian royalty to bavarian prince Otto of Nordheim for his support. From 1220 AD it was amongst the imperial insignias of the Holy Roman Emperor. Until 1794 it was in Aachen with the other regalias, then in 1801 they moved it to Vienna. As decorations are almost identical to the western Levédia period (9th century) sabers, there is no question if it's of hungarian origin. Anyway, my point is from 15th century it became popular, and it became the iconic weapon of hussars of both Poland and Hungary. Their successes and heroism later made other European and western nations to copy and incorporate hussar light cavalry tactics and weapons like saber. For example during the American revolutionary war when Washington got authorization to form light cavalry units I'm sure it's not concidence he gave the task of forming and training to Kovács (a hungarian revolutionary and professional soldier) and Pulaski (a polish noble).
On the medieval sword the Templar's motto on the sword is wrogly written on the Sword, it is... "...,sed Nomine Tuo ad gloriam" but it has to be "...,sed Nomini Tuo da gloriam". I wouldn't want to be in the place of the one who etched it, because it is something waaay different and in context of whole sentence(motto) it has not any logical meaning.
What exactly do you mean by "alternative" to or "challenge" the katana? You are contradicting yourself by giving accurate information about European swords then saying or implying the opposite, European swords were not heavy, slow clubs and there was much variety in types and properties of the blades. 03:25 Misleading, generalised statement. It depends on the blade, you just spent all that time explaining different blades and their properties only to make the same mistake as the title, to mislead and misrepresent. 05:00 Incorrect, it became specialized as a thrusting weapon later, the myth that European swords were slow is incorrect and they already had thrusting capacity.
@@stonefox9124That likely just proves you bought crappy mass produced shields. If you want to prove anything, make a video like this guy and lets see how your testing methodology holds up. I'll wait.🍿🍿🍿
@@r0derick439 wrong about what..? The shields they used in Japan were junk and not remotely comparable to European shields. They weren't intended to trap weapons like the Viking shield and they definitely didn't have the impenetrability of the Spartan shield. They were unimpressive barriers mostly designed to stop arrows and we can clearly see that the focus went entirely toward armor. This is why their armor was so sophisticated and their shields were absolute shit. Can't even believe you brought up the tate which is basically just a movable stationary barrier to hide behind.
Any european sword was better than the katana, starting by the simple fact that european steel was MILES better than japanese and ending in european swords and weapons never stopped evolving to counter the world, while Japan auto isolated itself and only competed against itself
listen , its quite simple , katana's were made with iron sand , its not a good iron . while europe had shit ton of good iron mines and good materials compared to japan. its quite easy to undestand why they had better weapon againts armor because of it . billhooks and shit
I have a wall full, 11 in all, inc;uding a katana. I'll take sword & board uver katana. 14 cet. cut and thrust, or a basket hilt, even a broad sword, as long as I have that shield.
The katana is a assasin weapon to use on an unarmed enemy the last thing a samurai would do is hit his sword against another sword .it is a weapon of sneak attack ..lol and hilarious you think those swords are more balanced than a katana or that you can weld them faster one hand .are you high
Why is there even a discussion? The most elegant weapon for a more civilized age is obviously a lightsaber. Just make sure you have the high ground! :D
The sword is merely a tool.
It is the man or woman using it that ultimately makes the difference.
Maybe we should mention more explicately that the Katana is more a relative to the Small Sword than anything else here - the Tachi is a war sword, to be worn and used in battle, the Katana is a weapon for the non-military context, hence it's appearance *after* the conclusion of the Sengoku Jidai.
It's also ever so slightly slower than a Longsword or a properly weighted Kriegsmesser (and this *explicitly* excludes the Cold Steel item...) because of it's weight distribution.
It's by no means a *bad* sword, but it's a civilian context weapon, not meant to be fielded in war and this should always remain in the back of our heads when talking about the Katana - much like the late medieval/early modern treatises of the Longsword also imply it's a weapon not meant to be used in armoured combat and the sword in general and everywhere has always been much more of sidearm with extreme prestige than a primary weapon of war, this role was fulfilled in Europe as well as Japan (and elsewhere) by a combination of ranged weapons (bows, crossbows, later the arquebus, again in both cultures) and pole-arms.
Best regards
Raoul G. Kunz
The two handed medival long sword is my favorite.
A flame bladed schiavona.
Its the man behind the sword
The Katana isn't a magical all powerful sword.... It's just... a different type of sword made by a different culture
As an RPG maker game that im playing right now says, when describing a katana: 'differently shaped pointy metal'
@@darklighter8968 That's literally what it is.
and was hard to make because of the low quality of steel in Japan at the time.
@@mbpaintballaIn reality, the katana or Tachi were produced in good quality, obviously it depended on who paid as well. What is certain is that Japan is an archipelago with little iron but enough to supply its armies.
@@r0derick439 yes, the end product was good quality, but it was hard to make because the raw materials were garbage in comparison
Any sword could though the katana may have an advantage in a spontaneous fight.
The Szablya is NOT from the 15th century
My people used it even back in times of the 9th century, when arrived in nowdays Hungary - and even earlier
Polish warriors also used Szablya - with very minor differences to the Hungarian weapon
Hard to tell, who used it first - and we don't care - Hussars are just awesome
There are archeological evidence, that in the 9th-10th century a slightly curved version of saber was already in use by hungarians. Pre-dating these there are examples of the sarmatian-hun and avar periods of Carpathian-basin. In the Hungarian National Museum you can check how they looked like. The saber itself evolved during the centuries, but as it was ineffective against heavy armor, hungarians used mainly double edged swords. The few number (cca. 150 sabers) of these swords from that era, their golden and silver decorations and the rich burials in which these were found suggests that only high ranking elite used it at the time. The best preserved one is in Vienna, called the "Saber of Charlemagne". How it arrived into german terrritory is disputed, but it's possibly a gift from hungarian royalty to bavarian prince Otto of Nordheim for his support. From 1220 AD it was amongst the imperial insignias of the Holy Roman Emperor. Until 1794 it was in Aachen with the other regalias, then in 1801 they moved it to Vienna. As decorations are almost identical to the western Levédia period (9th century) sabers, there is no question if it's of hungarian origin.
Anyway, my point is from 15th century it became popular, and it became the iconic weapon of hussars of both Poland and Hungary. Their successes and heroism later made other European and western nations to copy and incorporate hussar light cavalry tactics and weapons like saber. For example during the American revolutionary war when Washington got authorization to form light cavalry units I'm sure it's not concidence he gave the task of forming and training to Kovács (a hungarian revolutionary and professional soldier) and Pulaski (a polish noble).
The Ebony blade is my dream weapon. It is from Marvel.
Viking sword , is my favourite , you never know when you might want to go on a raid ! ♈⚓⚓♈
The US government is talking about bringing back The Mark aka Pirates to handle the russian and chinese unruly military boats.
Wealthy Samurai traveled to Spain to have their swords made there. The emperor of Japan banned rapiers because they were too lethal.
Shadiversity!! How the hell are you! Still attending the Barnes & Noble University I see. Don't mind me carry on
On the medieval sword the Templar's motto on the sword is wrogly written on the Sword, it is... "...,sed Nomine Tuo ad gloriam" but it has to be "...,sed Nomini Tuo da gloriam". I wouldn't want to be in the place of the one who etched it, because it is something waaay different and in context of whole sentence(motto) it has not any logical meaning.
What exactly do you mean by "alternative" to or "challenge" the katana? You are contradicting yourself by giving accurate information about European swords then saying or implying the opposite, European swords were not heavy, slow clubs and there was much variety in types and properties of the blades. 03:25 Misleading, generalised statement. It depends on the blade, you just spent all that time explaining different blades and their properties only to make the same mistake as the title, to mislead and misrepresent. 05:00 Incorrect, it became specialized as a thrusting weapon later, the myth that European swords were slow is incorrect and they already had thrusting capacity.
don't tell katana fanboys that the katana cannot cut through space and time and was actually worse quality than european ones
Only the Yamato could
you & another fella on here need to brush up on your historical metallurgy. Stop watching Shadiversity would be a good starting point
@@papatinpan I just joking man, I’m already know those thing
@@papatinpan I really love the shape of Western sword especially the montante, it’s my favorite sword
Fanboys of Katanas hate talking about shields but the fact is, they were made to catch and trap weapons just like the Katana.
Not to mention those unimportant things like cross guards, or metal armor.
As a Katana fan boy who owns 2 shields I stand proving ur point false.
@@stonefox9124That likely just proves you bought crappy mass produced shields. If you want to prove anything, make a video like this guy and lets see how your testing methodology holds up. I'll wait.🍿🍿🍿
Well, you are wrong since the samurai did use shields such as the tate, tedate and the ōsode, the latter being incorporated into the armor.
@@r0derick439 wrong about what..? The shields they used in Japan were junk and not remotely comparable to European shields. They weren't intended to trap weapons like the Viking shield and they definitely didn't have the impenetrability of the Spartan shield. They were unimpressive barriers mostly designed to stop arrows and we can clearly see that the focus went entirely toward armor. This is why their armor was so sophisticated and their shields were absolute shit. Can't even believe you brought up the tate which is basically just a movable stationary barrier to hide behind.
Nothing beats a wootz steel Indian Tulwar!
Any european sword was better than the katana, starting by the simple fact that european steel was MILES better than japanese and ending in european swords and weapons never stopped evolving to counter the world, while Japan auto isolated itself and only competed against itself
Ah yes katana - most overeted sword ever. Great, but damn overated af.
listen , its quite simple , katana's were made with iron sand , its not a good iron . while europe had shit ton of good iron mines and good materials compared to japan. its quite easy to undestand why they had better weapon againts armor because of it . billhooks and shit
rapier et main gauche
that would be every single one of them
All european swords in europ of that time were better then katana.
I have a wall full, 11 in all, inc;uding a katana. I'll take sword & board uver katana. 14 cet. cut and thrust, or a basket hilt, even a broad sword, as long as I have that shield.
Yes but would u take that over a Katana and bow arrow? U can't just up ur load out without offering a secondary to the opposing side.
@stonefox9124 I have a bow and I'm good with it.
Good explanation,great video.
Personally I prefer the Nodachi to the Katana!
All are katana.
every european sword could
The katana is a assasin weapon to use on an unarmed enemy the last thing a samurai would do is hit his sword against another sword .it is a weapon of sneak attack ..lol and hilarious you think those swords are more balanced than a katana or that you can weld them faster one hand .are you high