How to Fix the Waiter Tennis Serve
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One of the most common problems on the serve at the recreational level is a shallow or non-existent racquet drop accompanied by a push of the stringbed towards the ball. In today's video, I explain what causes this problem and how to fix the dreaded waiter tennis serve.
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Don’t confuse an open face racquet drop with the waiter serve. th-cam.com/video/jx9k2Gik7Nk/w-d-xo.html
I'm glad you posted this comment...I always thought I had a waiter serve, but in reality, I have a open face racquet drop on my flat serve and an on-edge serve for my slice serve. Thank you!!
Glad to hear that Will 🙏🙏
That's an interesting point. In some slow-motion shots of his serve on his TH-cam channel I noticed that Jeff Salzenstein does this. Of course, like you, he has a really big serve.
@@Better_Call_Raul I wish i could give you an explanation but I didn't realize I was doing this until I started to record myself during matches. I just feels natural now to do either based on the serve I hit.
@@willa5701 I have a hard time with spin serves with an open drop. I think it’s much easier with on edge drop myself like you describe. I’d like to find a way though so that all my serves are the same. 👍
I am teaching my wife the advanced serve. We’ve been working on it since March and making only minimal progress to her frustration. She has been doing the waiters serve for her whole life including 4 years of USTA league. She finally figured out a mental image that helped her with the correct racquet drop this week and it was very exciting to see her do the correct swing path! The trick was to consciously focus on pointing her elbow to the sky.
Yes, I've been trying to use the serve swing thought "lead with the elbow" to help my service motion.
thanks, I will try that
This is such an intuitive fix that i already came up with it myself. It did fix my waiter serve. This channel really holds true to it's name.
Waiter serve is a pain in the neck to off load. Thanks for the useful information
This is very helpful! I am a beginner but realized that I had a waiter serve. Could you please do another video on fixing waiter serve for beginner? Thanks!
Thanks for making a video on this like you had mentioned before! I had a good racket drop but changed it because i had no momentum, after the racket drop, because i dropped the racket too early. turned it to a waiter serve because it felt more linear. My fault. Going back to the basics...
I found practicing off the tennis court (baseball cage, squash court, into the fence, etc...) helps with the mental block; that way you're not trying to aim and can just focus on the movement.
Thanks for the tips Nic ! Next time I go on court I’ll practice the various techniques and hopefully with hard work and determination I can eliminate the “waiter’s tray” and finally achieve the correct racquet drop.
Great video, I'm having so much trouble with the racquet drop. During practice swings, no issues, but once I toss the ball, the rhythm is gone. My biggest problem deals with the tip of the racquet gently hitting the top corner of my head with the continental grip. When I had the waiter serve and the wrong grip, that doesn't happen. Any suggestions besides practice and repetition, thanks!!!
Great video and explanation keep up the great work and content 👍🏆🎾
Great instruction. 👍
Thanks! Great video! Appreciate
good stuff
i need this for my chronic problem
Will start to try these. I’ve been trying to get rid of wt serve for years and its stress that brings it back. It is indeed very difficult to break, I’m the kid who started playing with no lessons and played through HS varsity without anyone correcting and I was clueless. I can do thousands of fairly correct shadow swings, recently I’ve had luck with feel based exercise of swinging into the fence followed by dummy toss. Progress is slow as when I go to serve I regress as my mind shortens up swing path not allowing racquet to fully drop.
What if I get into a good racket drop but then once accelerating into the ball, the racket face opens too early and I don't pronate into the ball? Should I utilize this approach? In a sense, I don't start with a waiter's tray but I go into one soon after accelerating from the drop. Anyone else have this problem? So frustrating because I can't seem to correct it.
I do the same thing, my drop is good but I open the racquet face as I’m going up to hit the ball. I’m trying to fix it by thinking about keeping my wrist more still, but I think I need to do a lot of reps to get the muscle memory down
Have you had any progression? I haven’t but I don’t have time to practice much. Maybe one day a week and then the other day I play a match.
How do I make string face side fence after racquet drop?
What kind of grip do you recommend when practicing to correct the serve?
Continental grip is a must 👉 th-cam.com/video/WEMbmDurvNk/w-d-xo.html
Does using a grip that is a bevel to the left of continental work to solve waiter tray style?
Unfortunately no
Great, in these corrective exercises is it possible to use the eastern forehand grip, because I have been told by a tennis coach that the change to a continental grip is a long process on the serve.
No, using a continental grip for service is easier because you can move your whole arm easier up and into the serve with the racquet face in the correct position, facing into the other court, without the wrist having to do any funny stuff to get the racquet face and ball going in the right direction for a good serve. Holding the racquet wrong while serving is like trying to hit a backhand with a forehand grip. If your grip is wrong, your arm has to do unnatural things to hit the ball in the right direction. The resulting swing change kills serve power. Use Nik's drill with the racquet already dropped and the correct, continental grip and concentrate on pronating ( that is, snapping your forearm and the racquet face inside out) as you make contact with the ball. Work on this first, concenrrating on generating more power and not worrying about directional control until you get used to the feeling of using the continental grip, dropping the racquet, and aggressively pronating up into contact with the ball. You may have to adjust your ball toss height higher to accomodate this motion. Once you can hit the ball with more power, work to keep the new grip and swing motion (racquet drop and pronation) while developing more placement control to get your serves in.
Chris, changing to a continental grip is important and it can be a long process. I’ll address corrective techniques in a separate video.
Will this work if I subconciously open my wrist as I am swinging up to the ball? My racquet drop is fine but when the upward portion of the swing happens, my wrist still manages to open and pronate too early. I am using continental. It's a very weird bad habit lol.
I do the same thing, my drop is good but I open the racquet face as I’m going up to hit the ball. I’m trying to fix it by thinking about keeping my wrist more still, but I think I need to do a lot of reps to get the muscle memory down
@javiermillan8795 so I ended up figuring it out. You have to relax your hand even more! Throughout years of serving with bad technique and tension, I didn't know how tense my hand was on the serve. I had to serve slower and consciously relax my hand and my entire body before going into my service motion. Then I would hit the serve and it would feel good and loose and effortless. I haven't played in a while so I haven't been able to replicate the relaxation at full power, but I know that this was the mistake. I didn't even know what relaxed felt like because I was so used to arming the ball too much. It's impossible to try to keep your wrist still during the serve because everything happens so quickly. So you have to really relax your grip and let the racquet do the work. With a relaxed grip, a good ball toss, and continental grip, the racquet will do the rest for you. Hope this helps!
Isn’t it wrong to do a serve with forehand grip? Only with backhand grip
Even if I try to have a deep racquet drop, I still have a waiters tray serve. How? Well the buttcap of my racquet does not point directly to the sky (90 degree angle) but with an around 60 degree angle. I tried everything and I don't know how to solve it.
Try the methods in this video for 12 months of weekly serve practice
@@IntuitiveTennis thanks, I did the methods today and I am happy. Though I got too much side spin. What could the reasons be for that? Could this be a result of the strings facing my back when I do the racquet drop (see your starting position at 4:31) and when I go up I might not go "on edge" (which is what you do afterwards at 4:31)
¬chronic waiter servers ¬ was a fun definition.I think one can still use an eastern grip,or near it, for a reverse slice serve , as you tried first.Good video,all the best !
i guess Rosol did it here th-cam.com/video/wxlngF-sKSQ/w-d-xo.html
Thank you Catalin
Nikola
Most rec players are waiter servers, such an eye sore.
Make it simple please！ so boring！