Same. I'm in grade 8 rn and last year this book was presented to me. I wasn't a reader but I immediately loved the book. Then when we finished the book we couldn't watch the movie in class because it was rated pg13 or something. But during the summer I remembered the book and watched the movie. I was so hooked and I love this book and movie so much. Sorry for ranting lol I was just bored and typed this up.
Actually, the music in the edited version was more emotional and captured the moments better. While the director's cut was awesome in putting back the deleted scenes that should have been in the movie in the first place, the music sucked ass royally. Being from that period when it first came out in 83, right after Matt Dillon's "Over the Edge", this captured the emotion extremely well. I agree that the Director's cut is hella better, but the audio blending was horrific in the director's cut.
i can't agree witcha more, bud... i hope enough of us would sound this to Coppola for him to then RE-SCORE this more complete cut of the movie. it deserves a better scoring. and i do think the original score of the theatrical cut was much better.
It really ruins the film. I can’t watch this version at all, I love the original score...and the thing is trying to get hold of the original version is virtually impossible now.
Thank you! I thought I was the only one. I loved the extra scenes but the extra music was horrible, took me out of the movie and the scene where Pony boy and Jonny are sleeping in the park made it seem like they were in love with each other or something.
I actually love the opening credits....its so old fashioned and classic. When i watch it I think of Gone With the Wind, which i think is what they were going for, since Ponyboy loved that story
at first, I really didn't like the book, but afterwards, I fell in love with the writing and the characters. I really encourage other people to read it, but they just kinda turn it away, which is sad.
The novel has been read by three generations in my family. My father and mother both read it. My father when it first came out. He was a "greaser" not in T-Town"Tulsa, Oklahoma" like the book but in the City "Oklahoma City". He was a "greaser" way before it came out. He related to it and it even helped make him a better person and helped my mom (while she was dating him) understand him better. When I showed my son a pic of his grandfather's high school yearbook pic, he loved it and loved knowing he was a greaser and not a Soc.
I loved the Opening scene, the song played is "Stay Gold" by Stevie Wonder. How could you not like that, it gets me pumped and ready to know im about to watch a masterpiece!!!!
@Rocking Horse "it's too long and kinda unnecessary" dude it's 3 minutes. How is 3 minutes long and unnecessary, it's just that people these days don't have patience. As far as unnecessary, I mean it's the credits, if you were in a film I think you'd want them to credit you in it, right.
Thank you so much for this, Like actually. We finished the book a few weeks ago in ELA (I’m in 7th grade), and I knew I immediately wanted to watch the movie. I was so excited and then watching it I was like, “wait what the heck, this doesn’t have all the scenes and what’s up with this intro? This isn’t how the movie starts”. Well now I know how to watch the full movie and I’ve been trying to figure it out for so long. Thank u
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Our class watched the incomplete version, and it took us about 20 minutes until we were able to clearly understand what actors were playing which character.
This is my favorite movie of all time. I know Im in the minority when I say its pretty close to perfect. I was so excited when the complete version came out,and about 20 minutes in I had to shut it off. Some new scenes are good,but the new music brought such a goofy feel to the movie that I couldn't take it seriously.
Ayee, I'm in 8th grade and I just read the book and we're watching the cut version from 1983. So I prefer to watch the 2005 cut version with different music and more scenes.
The original theatrical version is better than the complete novel version simply because the score is better although I liked the added scenes in complete novel.
The Complete Novel version is starting to become more common now. It's the only version available on Blu Ray (can't say I agree with the refusal to release the original version on DVD, but whatever), and I've found it in the Blu Ray bargain bin multiple times.
Agree with everything you said. My only gripe with the music of the Director’s Cut is that there is not enough variety, and at some moments, the music is far too upbeat sounding to fit the scene (i.e. Dallas running from the police)
That sort of happened with me on Steven Kings IT (The old version) I put it in and was watching the version where they were adults, and didn't know it was Double-Sided. And just because I could I flipped it over and yep, I got the first part of it where they were kids instead of the second part where they were adults.
I prefer the newer version, and most of the new music choices, but in some scenes I find myself really missing Carmine Coppola's original score, like the lead up to the rumble. The original's orchestral piece playing as they pump themselves up for the fight is so much more ominous and built more tension than the replacement surf music the new version has. And the scene where Dally dies? Same problem. The surf music took all the emotion out of his death. However some of the scenes definitely benefit from the new music.
randy25rhoads that fucking surf music during Dally’s death scene. Took all the weight and gravity out of that scene. Simply changing the music turned it from a tragic, emotional, and pivotal event to “just something that happens”. What were they thinking? So glad the version on TH-cam Movies is the original version with the original score.
@@owenwexler7214 Yeah the surf music in the new version is garbage because it plays over the dialogue making it hard to hear what they are saying and it's just ruins many of the scenes it's used in.
Omg thank you sooooo much 😃 I was about to order the cut version until I saw this and now the uncut version is going to be shipped soon thanks for making this 😊
Honestly I wish there was one week every month that everybody goes outside and gets off of the electronics and actually value life all we do anymore is care about social medias and what others think about us I think today we take life for-granted and don’t think about anybody but ourselves this is just my opinion but for some reason the Outsiders kind of sparked that idea
When you set out to make your video, did you say to yourself "I'll do it for Johnny!"? 🙂 I so strongly agree with you. The Outsiders is my favorite film, flat out. I grew up with this movie, it came out when I was in school, and I had just recently read the book. Loved the movie right away, but like you, felt it was missing something... I've always hated the overly dramatic score as well. The music during the rumble, for instance- An exciting scene, but the score would be more fitting for a funeral, or grieving for a lost puppy. Decades later, I discovered the "Complete Novel" version, same way you did, in a bargain bin for $3.99. I was thrilled, and not at all disappointed. If recommending to a friend, it's one of the few director's cuts that I'd suggest above the original. I greatly appreciate your work here in presenting the difference, though I don't think that I dislike the theatrical release as much as you do. I grew up with the original, and there's a certain amount of nostalgia attached to that, but I love the Complete Novel version so much more. Thank you for this- Stay gold, dude.
Just watched the uncut version and while I definitely agree that added scenes are great - the original score is just so much better! Watch the rumble scene....the build up of drama that the original score builds is far superior to the random rock and roll music that Coppola retro fits in his version - it doesn’t fit the scene. It’s also poorly mixed. It drowns out the dialogue.
@Rocking Horse I mean the difference is barely a few minutes of scenes that don’t bring a great deal to the film. I think it’s good that they have been added but not needed. The film score however is crucial to the tone and atmosphere of the film - particularly in the final fight scene between the two gangs.
I thought the cut version was easy to understand after reading the book and my sister understood it without reading the book or have me explain it to her, I guess it's a you thing
9:19, I actually like the music here, probably because this was the version I grew up with. This scene always brings a tear to my eye and I’m sure the music contributes to that. But I do agree with you for the most part on the other things you pointed out.
My teacher should us the 1:30 hour one and all of us were like, wait is that *insert name here* and he would be like no it’s *insert name here* it took 20 minutes in the movie to realize who everyone was
I just read this novel in class and I fell in love with it and I watched the movie recently and it’s just missing something. I like the movie but I don’t at the same time, especially when it comes down to the acting and how they presented some things. One of my favorite books tho💗
If you google the film, the runtime on the ‘Directors cut’ it still says 91 minutes. It even says it on the complete novel version. Don’t be thrown off when the runtime on ‘The Outsiders - The Complete Novel’ the film is about 117 minutes. Also to make sure that you do see the ‘Complete Novel’, the opening credits come before the actual film starts Your welcome
harmonee You will go back to it again and again. I grew up with it in my life as far back as I can remembers. I am a second generation fan and my son a third gen. fan. My parents read it when it first came out. Yes I am close to 50 lol. It's one of those topical stories that resonate throughout generations. So one day when you have kids, introduce it to them when you fell they are old enough.
@@anitaboddie1073I remember reading The Outsiders and Of Mice and Men, both great books that I thought would be boring, but glad my teachers made us read it 😊
Wow.. couldn’t disagree more with you on many of your points. I had no problems with the original. I appreciated the directors cut and the extra scenes were nice but the rockabilly music was terrible. Especially in the climactic Dally death scene. The original score fit the movie so much better and was done by Coppola’s father, Carmine. It’s funny you say that the original version is “bad” and in the “bargain bin” at Walmart when it was the original version that has become iconic and generated a wealth of interest to warrant a “directors cut” version. And being in a bargain bin in Walmart has nothing to do with a films excellence but more with clearing out outdated media formats. That’s why in that same bin you’ll find “Beverly Hills Cop” and “Terminator” along with plenty of other iconic movies stuck in outdated formats.
I’m not doing this for school but first I watched the film when I was like 13. Thought it was okay. Didn’t think much. Read the book at 16 thought it was amazing. Finished it in 2 days then rewatched the film. Meant so much more and the characters made so much more sense and now I’m so obsessed with everything about it. Can we please talk about Dally. Everything about him.
I had hopes that this would just be a discussion video and not a bashing video. There are so many problems that I have with this video and I'm going to voice them politely and hope that you can agree to disagree or just keep as food for thought. As someone who only recently became aware of the outsiders and hadn't read the book before watching the original version, your approach to the movie was extremely wrong. I understood what was going on and after watching it, picked up the book a few days later and read it in no time. After doing research, I later found out about the full novel version and purchased that as well and watched it. I do agree that the full novel version is better, no doubt about that, but your point of view seems to be a bit close minded. S. E. Hinton, the author, not only worked on the movie with Mr. Coppola, but helped produce it every step of the process. She also played the nurse that was in Dallas' hospital room towards the end. I also agree that the music changes they made were a great choice. I personally like Elvis and Jerry's music much better, as that is what they would've listened to. This is coming from a modern greaser and lover of S. E. Hinton's work. What I do have a problem with is how you bashed the opening credits and some other points you made. As you should know, a HUGE part of this movie and book is Ponyboy's fascination with the book Gone With The Wind. The opening credits is to play on the opening credits of the movie version of Gone With The Wind. Sure, the original version didn't give you every detail, but it did justice and made tons of money. It was very controversial back in the day so they did what they could and kept the extra bits. Twenty years later, they released the full novel version, because fans wanted more of the story. Also, socs aren't 'rich jocks' as you put it in your video. Socs are rich people in general. People who have money. And though you were right that they were friends, they're known as the Curtis Gang, just like Tim Shephard's Gang. The book and movie is narrated by Ponyboy who is only fourteen. Keep in mind that this is from a young teenagers perspective about kid greasers in a gang, dealing with rich kids who jump them on numerous occasions and the struggles of their lives. If he was older, this book and movie could've been a lot rougher. S. E. Hinton wrote this when she was 15/16, so it's pretty PG because of how young she was. As someone who is interested in film and has dabbled in acting as well, both versions were done amazingly, it's just your preference. I think you went way overboard by destroying the original version. Someone else could've benefited by watching it, even if you didn't enjoy it. Just like you say it came to you at the perfect time, that dvd could've been that for someone else. Not that I'm righteous or anything, but it seems that you haven't really dived into the background of this beloved story. I'm sorry if I'm wrong and you have, but this video just gave me the intention that you only see this book and movie at face value. Take this with a grain of salt or not at all. Besides, what would a greaser know about greasers :)
I was actually showed the outsiders at a very young age. Like 7-8 my mom would show me old things she liked and she read me the book it was hard to understand but I saw the movie as well I didn’t understand that Johnny and dally weren’t actually dead and would cry every time. But I’ve read that book at least once a year. I’ve lost two copies of my book to jerks in my school
I’m in 7th grade and my English teacher had ya listen to the audio book while we followed along. Just this week she is having us watch the movie. We aren’t done yet with the movie and we are watching the cut version. My teacher even told us that their are two versions so she showed the accurate version (cut)
on hbomax,i watched the rest of the movie that we hadn't finished in class yet. i thought it was missing stuff and they added some stuff too. i remember on hbomax seeing ponyboy and johnny hunting the rabbits. i knew it was wrong so i went on TH-cam and found it was a totally different version.
I totally 100% agree with you when I first saw the uncut version or I should say the theatrical version I was sort of confused on why it started like that maybe I thought it was messed up so I took it out waited a couple seconds put it in again and I saw I had no proper introduction and when I finished watching the film I thought it was a pretty decent film I just didn't think it wasn't the best adaptation. But then overtime i found videos on TH-cam about the complete novel and hearing that it was better than the theatrical version so I decided to ask my dad for my birthday to get me the complete novel, what ended up happening was we ended up going to multiple stores I couldn't find it and I pretty much just forgot about it for for about 3 years and then recently my parents got me the complete novel on Blu-ray and I saw it and I loved it and now I 100% understand why people like the director's cut better than the cut version. I just want to say thank you so much for your views now I have no appreciation for the theatrical version recently my parents got me the complete novel on Blu ray and I saw it and I loved it and now I 100 percent understand why people like the director's cut better than the cut version I just want to say thank you so much for your views now I have no appreciation for the theatrical version and I have now have a better respect for the complete novel. And like you said is more accurate to the book.
I had never actually seen the film until today I decided to rent it on TH-cam. I had seen many clips of the movie and knew I should expect some scenes. The entire time I was watching it I was super confused and decided to do research, super glad to know I can get the full version.
Thank you for explaining the difference of version I do appreciate it as this is the film of my generation that I actually never got the chance to watch it but I am watching it has been in my Tick box list forever . Thank you from South Australia 🇦🇺
I absolutely and wholeheartedly disagree with you. I never heard about the director's cut version until I watched your video informing us about it. I watched your video mainly because I had begun watching this film again tonight (had watched it countless times as a kid and more recently about 10 years ago on DVD) and was appalled when I suddenly realized that, not only was the flow of the film I know horribly interrupted by excessive material that only slows it down and spells out for you details that the cut version allows you to figure out yourself through suggestion--which is more effective--but also that the beautiful original soundtrack was gone and replaced with like a million Elvis songs and other hokey guitar strumming tunes that get monotonous after a while. After realizing this, I was infuriated because I had already watched about 1/3 of the film and did not want to see an ineffective version filled with forgettable music and excessive material. I wanted the awesome and moving original soundtrack accompanying and enhancing the mood and great performances. The director's cut version is interesting but nowhere nearly as effective and moving as the cut version. All those details spelled out in the director's cut version we figure out ourselves in the cut version; we don't need to be shown relationships taking place unless they have a compelling reason to be shown to us. The cut version is streamlined and flows better. The director's cut version drags and the absence of the orchestral score hurts the emotional impact of the film. If you play just that one scene where they reunite at the hospital, of course it's going to sound over-the-top because you're being shoved into forming an opinion on something based on merely simplistic observation of a clip and not observation as a viewer whom has been watching the events build and the emotion accumulate over the course of the film, which makes the supposedly over-the-top music anything but "over-the-top." In fact, it makes it quite fitting and compliments the situation and what the characters are feeling. The guitar strumming tune in the director's cut version is not ineffective but, to me, it doesn't improve the scene and actually injects a muted emotion that, by that point in the director's cut, has become too boring and monotonous to make us feel anything refreshing or new nor does it enhances the scene in any compelling way. In other words, the director's cut version sucks hairy cow balls. The cut version with the glorious original score is wondrous.
The nrw version SUCKS! The fast paced music durring the emotional scenes takes away from what was intended. Im Sure anyone with ADHD would love the new version
Definitely! I'm 40 years old, and I grew up watching/loving this (cut version) movie. Hadn't seen it in MANY years, then one day it was on at a buddy's house. I arrived during the scene where Johnny runs into the burning church, and I was like (Emelio! jk) 'I love this movie!' then I immediately noticed something was WAY OFF. This is a DRAMATIC moment, so why does the music imply that the characters are about to 'catch some serious waves, and hang 10, bra'? Until that day I didn't even know that another version EXISTED. I had to go find the original release just to 'cleanse my palate' of the sour taste that version left behind. GENUINELY surprised that some people prefer the new version. I just can't "hang 10" with the beach party music during EMOTIONAL scenes, I feel like that music distracts from the impact of what's being shown.
I saw this when it first came out. I don't think you are old enough to understand what it meant to us growing up. The added scenes were great, but Coppola blew it with the music, while Scorsese uses period music better than anyone else, Coppola's use of it here feels inappropriate. The score is lush, and goes with the drama of youth...The open sequence reads like a playcard. I think you're way off.
I also loved the movie back in the 80s. I haven't seen the newer version to compare, but I have seen the rumble scene with the new soundtrack, and the surfer music definitely takes away from the serious tone.
For my birthday(today) I got the classic, not realising at first that is wasn't the better version. Now I am watching the better version online, yet with odd languaged subtitles, but atleast it is the better version!
I was a teenager when this movie was released. I saw it with my entire group of friends and we found alot of similarities between us and the characters. It meant alot to all of us. I didn't know about the director's cut, I'll be ordering it in a few moments. Thank you for the comparison, it was enlightening to say the least. Plus you make a hell of a TH-cam video! Good stuff! Thank you. Stay Gold Ponyboy.
Sorry, don't agree at all. The original version imo, is the better movie. I didn't read the book as a kid, before I saw the movie, and picked up in minutes who was who and what was generally going on. Mind you I was like 7-8 years old the first time I saw the movie back in the 80s. The new version does add more scenes, but some of them add nothing to the movie, and just adds to the run time. Also the music in the new version is God awful! The surfing music that starts during the Church fire scene feels completely out of place. Same goes for the music during Dally's death. The original score fit the tone of the movie far better. He'll, some of the scenes in the new cut, the surfing music is so loud you can hardly her the characters speaking their lines. I literally just watched both version yesterday, and hated the new version, because the music completely those off the tone of the movie.
In the 80s, there was no director's cut or DVD. The version this guy hates was what I watched, and it was all that existed. I loved it. It's cool that there is a director's cut now.
If you are an English teacher and you should the theatrical version of this movie, you should be fired. It's a shame that this version is never shown on tv but I'm glad that it is becoming more accessible. It has a blu-ray version and Google Play added it to their library a few years ago.
Thank you very much for making this video. Last year, my class read the book, and we’re going to watch the movie afterward. However, it was the Un Cut version of the movie. So after class I talked to my teacher, telling her of the two different versions of the film, where the Coppola version was more true to the book. I then asked her if it would be alright if I brought the “Complete Novel” version to school, so that I, and my fellow classmates could enjoy a much better version of the film, and analyze the similarities and differences, more in-depth if you will, and obviously she said “yes”. So once again, thank you for introducing to me the better version of the film. And also thanks for helping me get out of one day of summarizing the book and the movie (seeing that the Coppola version is longer). :)
To be honest, the emotional orchestral pieces are better than that surf rock garbage. It doesn't work well with the movie and especially in Dallas' death scene which is my favorite movie scene of all time, that scene had a beautiful track. I was heartbroken when I saw that scene and heard guitar when dally commited suicide out of grief
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I had a good 7th grade teacher. She showed us the complete novel version.
same
Pursue did to it was great he also got us popcorn . He was an awesome teacher
No I own the original it's fine It just cuts scenes
Lucky we watched the incomplete one😣😐😭
Ya same!
For all these years, THE DAMN DVD WAS TWO-SIDED?! I'm watching it rn..
+Za-Berry 05 I'm afraid so.
Za-Berry 05 wow.
Za-Berry 05 just wow
Two sided?
"Lets do it for Johnny man. Do it for Johnny" Rest In Peace sweet baby angel 👼
His still alive irl
@@Mr.GetitandTakeit they were saying how Johnny Cade had died
Stay gold ponyboy 😢😭
@@randomchairs1560 ohhhhh
Sent from heaven? Had he gotten a good look at Dallas?
AAAYYY! I'm reading this in class right now and I'm in seventh grade!
Spooky Ella Greasers for life
Me too
We are watching the movie this week
TeonVungnook hey. Me too
TeonVungnook SAME
Same. I'm in grade 8 rn and last year this book was presented to me. I wasn't a reader but I immediately loved the book. Then when we finished the book we couldn't watch the movie in class because it was rated pg13 or something. But during the summer I remembered the book and watched the movie. I was so hooked and I love this book and movie so much. Sorry for ranting lol I was just bored and typed this up.
Ha sucker I watched the movie when I was in eighth grade
Alicja Czaplewska ha watched it in 7th graade your school sucks
I am reading it right now in 7th and we are going to watch it when we are done
If you are in 8th grade, then you are 13 or 14. So, why couldn’t you watch it?
tbh idk my teacher just said we can't
Actually, the music in the edited version was more emotional and captured the moments better. While the director's cut was awesome in putting back the deleted scenes that should have been in the movie in the first place, the music sucked ass royally. Being from that period when it first came out in 83, right after Matt Dillon's "Over the Edge", this captured the emotion extremely well. I agree that the Director's cut is hella better, but the audio blending was horrific in the director's cut.
i can't agree witcha more, bud... i hope enough of us would sound this to Coppola for him to then RE-SCORE this more complete cut of the movie. it deserves a better scoring. and i do think the original score of the theatrical cut was much better.
It really ruins the film. I can’t watch this version at all, I love the original score...and the thing is trying to get hold of the original version is virtually impossible now.
Yes, the re-scoring is AWFUL! Grating rockabilly twang and the mixing is terrible!
Thank you! I thought I was the only one. I loved the extra scenes but the extra music was horrible, took me out of the movie and the scene where Pony boy and Jonny are sleeping in the park made it seem like they were in love with each other or something.
The music literally ruined the entire film
Blu Ray version has more scenes...
REALLY?!
Nard Dog okay Andrew Bains Bernard
It's not the blu-ray version its the directors cut
OMG
Wait like freaking legit like more scenes than the complete novel PLEASE I NEED TO KNOW
I actually love the opening credits....its so old fashioned and classic. When i watch it I think of Gone With the Wind, which i think is what they were going for, since Ponyboy loved that story
The original opening credits are undoubtedly an homage to those in *Gone With the Wind* (1939).
And Stevie Wonder singing that amazing song.
LITERALLY ME! Half the scenes were freakin missing
at first, I really didn't like the book, but afterwards, I fell in love with the writing and the characters. I really encourage other people to read it, but they just kinda turn it away, which is sad.
I have a boyfriend but I have a crush on Johnny. Unfortunately, my boyfriend knows.
Johnny cute thoooo 😣
Kid Brother they could be gay or trans or be using someone else’s account, honestly just, respect the drip Karen.
Luke English I have a boyfriend, but I have a big ass crush on PonyBoy.. he knows as well and makes fun of me😔
Crusty Ketchup Packet
cause why not dumb btch
I’m an 80’s teenager, and still adore Ralph Macchio...therefore still love his Johnny and Daniel. 😉♥️♥️♥️
The novel has been read by three generations in my family. My father and mother both read it. My father when it first came out. He was a "greaser" not in T-Town"Tulsa, Oklahoma" like the book but in the City "Oklahoma City". He was a "greaser" way before it came out. He related to it and it even helped make him a better person and helped my mom (while she was dating him) understand him better. When I showed my son a pic of his grandfather's high school yearbook pic, he loved it and loved knowing he was a greaser and not a Soc.
Dude that’s really cool
thats so cool
the beginning credits is a nod to gone with the wind. with their credits
I loved the Opening scene, the song played is "Stay Gold" by Stevie Wonder. How could you not like that, it gets me pumped and ready to know im about to watch a masterpiece!!!!
@Rocking Horse "it's too long and kinda unnecessary" dude it's 3 minutes. How is 3 minutes long and unnecessary, it's just that people these days don't have patience. As far as unnecessary, I mean it's the credits, if you were in a film I think you'd want them to credit you in it, right.
Exactly. I loved the opening credits. We had patience in the 70s and 80s. Ummm opening credits to Superman anyone?
@@wingchundragon EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!
I read it in 7th grade too
I'm reading in 6th
Lol same, mandatory reading in Canada
I read it in 8th.
I'M STUCK IN A TIME LOOP! HELP ME! 1:42 1:53
Peter Pantaloons oh yeah it does loop maybe editing mistake
Oh I thought I accidentally rewinded it lol
S A M E
I thought I rewind it lol
Bianca Ann probably editing mistake. The first time he says “I knew something was wrong” the the second take he says “ I knew something seem wrong”
Thank you so much for this, Like actually. We finished the book a few weeks ago in ELA (I’m in 7th grade), and I knew I immediately wanted to watch the movie. I was so excited and then watching it I was like, “wait what the heck, this doesn’t have all the scenes and what’s up with this intro? This isn’t how the movie starts”. Well now I know how to watch the full movie and I’ve been trying to figure it out for so long. Thank u
I’m in seventh grade and we just finished the book 😂😂 on 12-13-17
I honestly love both versions 😭❤️
+Leyla Mujica that's great, glad you're able to enjoy somthing I don't. Just opinions.
Thomas Bolt yeah but thanks anyway for the great tips and your great opinion
@@ThomasBolt yeah,but like Dally’s death tho,he simultaneously has a seizure and turned into a ragdoll
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Our class watched the incomplete version, and it took us about 20 minutes until we were able to clearly understand what actors were playing which character.
This is my favorite movie of all time. I know Im in the minority when I say its pretty close to perfect. I was so excited when the complete version came out,and about 20 minutes in I had to shut it off. Some new scenes are good,but the new music brought such a goofy feel to the movie that I couldn't take it seriously.
Agree 1,000 percent… the music in the original is so iconic
Yes many dvds are double sided! You have to LOOK CLOSE to see if it says SIDE A or SIDE B/flipside.
You're expecting people to read? And use logic?
Ayee, I'm in 8th grade and I just read the book and we're watching the cut version from 1983. So I prefer to watch the 2005 cut version with different music and more scenes.
when your 10th grade teacher shows the 1983 version…
*So you go and buy the complete novel version lmao*
Thankfully we watched the newer version in school
The original theatrical version is better than the complete novel version simply because the score is better although I liked the added scenes in complete novel.
The Complete Novel version is starting to become more common now. It's the only version available on Blu Ray (can't say I agree with the refusal to release the original version on DVD, but whatever), and I've found it in the Blu Ray bargain bin multiple times.
Thankfully this is no longer true. The new 4K version comes with both cuts. And both are restored in 4K.
We watched the version that cut some of the scenes, and the other ela teachers class got to watch watch version with all the scenes :(
I was sobbing uncontrollably after Dallas died. He was the best character. Why do my favorite characters always have to die??
Agree with everything you said. My only gripe with the music of the Director’s Cut is that there is not enough variety, and at some moments, the music is far too upbeat sounding to fit the scene (i.e. Dallas running from the police)
Here after the announcement that they will be re-releasing the movie!
You just made me aware of this this, thanks.
@@ThomasBolt Ur welcome! And it has a new trailer.
We read it in the 8th grade. And I loved it. We watched the movie too. Our class fell in love with the book and the movie.
I have the DVD Outsiders but I really don't care cause I have read the book 7 whole times
your pfp and username gives me flashbacks
His glasses are crooked.... can’t unsee it... oof!
That sort of happened with me on Steven Kings IT (The old version) I put it in and was watching the version where they were adults, and didn't know it was Double-Sided. And just because I could I flipped it over and yep, I got the first part of it where they were kids instead of the second part where they were adults.
I think it should be remade.
But i did like the original film
Never should it ever be remade
I'm actually a greaser too.
Lol if you were you would cry
Same
I grew up north side
imagine being this human
No your a weeb
I prefer the newer version, and most of the new music choices, but in some scenes I find myself really missing Carmine Coppola's original score, like the lead up to the rumble. The original's orchestral piece playing as they pump themselves up for the fight is so much more ominous and built more tension than the replacement surf music the new version has. And the scene where Dally dies? Same problem. The surf music took all the emotion out of his death. However some of the scenes definitely benefit from the new music.
randy25rhoads that fucking surf music during Dally’s death scene. Took all the weight and gravity out of that scene. Simply changing the music turned it from a tragic, emotional, and pivotal event to “just something that happens”. What were they thinking?
So glad the version on TH-cam Movies is the original version with the original score.
@@owenwexler7214 Yeah the surf music in the new version is garbage because it plays over the dialogue making it hard to hear what they are saying and it's just ruins many of the scenes it's used in.
@@charliecoccia8875 I agree. I prefer the original version. The music changes the entire tone of the movie, and it just seems off.
Absolutely spot on. The original score is so much better....the new music ruins the film in my opinion .
Omg thank you sooooo much 😃 I was about to order the cut version until I saw this and now the uncut version is going to be shipped soon thanks for making this 😊
The cut version is actually better
Thxs for the opinion but I prefer the uncut version I've watched both 😊
In my opinion, the best solution is actually to watch both versions, after you've read the book.
Honestly I wish there was one week every month that everybody goes outside and gets off of the electronics and actually value life all we do anymore is care about social medias and what others think about us I think today we take life for-granted and don’t think about anybody but ourselves this is just my opinion but for some reason the Outsiders kind of sparked that idea
0:39 XD I'm right now in 7th grade and reading "The Outsiders" for the first time.
We have something in common.
When you set out to make your video, did you say to yourself "I'll do it for Johnny!"?
🙂
I so strongly agree with you.
The Outsiders is my favorite film, flat out.
I grew up with this movie, it came out when I was in school, and I had just recently read the book.
Loved the movie right away, but like you, felt it was missing something...
I've always hated the overly dramatic score as well. The music during the rumble, for instance-
An exciting scene, but the score would be more fitting for a funeral, or grieving for a lost puppy.
Decades later, I discovered the "Complete Novel" version, same way you did, in a bargain bin for $3.99.
I was thrilled, and not at all disappointed.
If recommending to a friend, it's one of the few director's cuts that I'd suggest above the original.
I greatly appreciate your work here in presenting the difference, though I don't think that I dislike the theatrical release as much as you do.
I grew up with the original, and there's a certain amount of nostalgia attached to that, but I love the Complete Novel version so much more.
Thank you for this-
Stay gold, dude.
Just watched the uncut version and while I definitely agree that added scenes are great - the original score is just so much better! Watch the rumble scene....the build up of drama that the original score builds is far superior to the random rock and roll music that Coppola retro fits in his version - it doesn’t fit the scene. It’s also poorly mixed. It drowns out the dialogue.
@Rocking Horse I mean the difference is barely a few minutes of scenes that don’t bring a great deal to the film. I think it’s good that they have been added but not needed. The film score however is crucial to the tone and atmosphere of the film - particularly in the final fight scene between the two gangs.
I thought the cut version was easy to understand after reading the book and my sister understood it without reading the book or have me explain it to her, I guess it's a you thing
I absolutely love this book/movie! Hate to admit this but every time I watch the ending scene where Pony reads Johnny's letter I bawl my eyes out 😅
The book and the dvd is legend🤩
Dude I had the exact same reaction when our teacher showed us the cut version. Even though she had us read the book, I was like, what is going on.
9:19, I actually like the music here, probably because this was the version I grew up with. This scene always brings a tear to my eye and I’m sure the music contributes to that. But I do agree with you for the most part on the other things you pointed out.
Me too, the original score feels so much more emotional to me in that scene. You can barely even hear the song in the complete version.
My teacher should us the 1:30 hour one and all of us were like, wait is that *insert name here* and he would be like no it’s *insert name here* it took 20 minutes in the movie to realize who everyone was
I read this in 1982 - 7th grade.
Saw the movie the next year......followed by Rumble Fish
I just read this novel in class and I fell in love with it and I watched the movie recently and it’s just missing something. I like the movie but I don’t at the same time, especially when it comes down to the acting and how they presented some things. One of my favorite books tho💗
If you google the film, the runtime on the ‘Directors cut’ it still says 91 minutes. It even says it on the complete novel version.
Don’t be thrown off when the runtime on ‘The Outsiders - The Complete Novel’ the film is about 117 minutes.
Also to make sure that you do see the ‘Complete Novel’, the opening credits come before the actual film starts
Your welcome
I read this last year in 7th grade and I still love it :)
harmonee You will go back to it again and again. I grew up with it in my life as far back as I can remembers. I am a second generation fan and my son a third gen. fan. My parents read it when it first came out. Yes I am close to 50 lol. It's one of those topical stories that resonate throughout generations. So one day when you have kids, introduce it to them when you fell they are old enough.
@@anitaboddie1073I remember reading The Outsiders and Of Mice and Men, both great books that I thought would be boring, but glad my teachers made us read it 😊
This is my absolute favorite.
Wow.. couldn’t disagree more with you on many of your points.
I had no problems with the original. I appreciated the directors cut and the extra scenes were nice but the rockabilly music was terrible. Especially in the climactic Dally death scene. The original score fit the movie so much better and was done by Coppola’s father, Carmine.
It’s funny you say that the original version is “bad” and in the “bargain bin” at Walmart when it was the original version that has become iconic and generated a wealth of interest to warrant a “directors cut” version. And being in a bargain bin in Walmart has nothing to do with a films excellence but more with clearing out outdated media formats. That’s why in that same bin you’ll find “Beverly Hills Cop” and “Terminator” along with plenty of other iconic movies stuck in outdated formats.
Theatrical Cut: 👍
Complete Novel Cut: 👎
I’m not doing this for school but first I watched the film when I was like 13. Thought it was okay. Didn’t think much. Read the book at 16 thought it was amazing. Finished it in 2 days then rewatched the film. Meant so much more and the characters made so much more sense and now I’m so obsessed with everything about it. Can we please talk about Dally. Everything about him.
I have seen the uncut version and I somehow enjoyed it.
Don't hurt me, please.
you don’t even know how much i sobbed when johnny said “stay golden, Ponyboy, stay golden” and then dies ☹️.
I'm in 7th grade and I read it like a week ago and I love it!!
First: maybe it'll be interesting
Few pages after: I FUCKING LOVE THIS BOOOOK
I had hopes that this would just be a discussion video and not a bashing video. There are so many problems that I have with this video and I'm going to voice them politely and hope that you can agree to disagree or just keep as food for thought. As someone who only recently became aware of the outsiders and hadn't read the book before watching the original version, your approach to the movie was extremely wrong. I understood what was going on and after watching it, picked up the book a few days later and read it in no time. After doing research, I later found out about the full novel version and purchased that as well and watched it. I do agree that the full novel version is better, no doubt about that, but your point of view seems to be a bit close minded. S. E. Hinton, the author, not only worked on the movie with Mr. Coppola, but helped produce it every step of the process. She also played the nurse that was in Dallas' hospital room towards the end. I also agree that the music changes they made were a great choice. I personally like Elvis and Jerry's music much better, as that is what they would've listened to. This is coming from a modern greaser and lover of S. E. Hinton's work. What I do have a problem with is how you bashed the opening credits and some other points you made. As you should know, a HUGE part of this movie and book is Ponyboy's fascination with the book Gone With The Wind. The opening credits is to play on the opening credits of the movie version of Gone With The Wind. Sure, the original version didn't give you every detail, but it did justice and made tons of money. It was very controversial back in the day so they did what they could and kept the extra bits. Twenty years later, they released the full novel version, because fans wanted more of the story. Also, socs aren't 'rich jocks' as you put it in your video. Socs are rich people in general. People who have money. And though you were right that they were friends, they're known as the Curtis Gang, just like Tim Shephard's Gang. The book and movie is narrated by Ponyboy who is only fourteen. Keep in mind that this is from a young teenagers perspective about kid greasers in a gang, dealing with rich kids who jump them on numerous occasions and the struggles of their lives. If he was older, this book and movie could've been a lot rougher. S. E. Hinton wrote this when she was 15/16, so it's pretty PG because of how young she was. As someone who is interested in film and has dabbled in acting as well, both versions were done amazingly, it's just your preference. I think you went way overboard by destroying the original version. Someone else could've benefited by watching it, even if you didn't enjoy it. Just like you say it came to you at the perfect time, that dvd could've been that for someone else. Not that I'm righteous or anything, but it seems that you haven't really dived into the background of this beloved story. I'm sorry if I'm wrong and you have, but this video just gave me the intention that you only see this book and movie at face value. Take this with a grain of salt or not at all. Besides, what would a greaser know about greasers :)
I was actually showed the outsiders at a very young age. Like 7-8 my mom would show me old things she liked and she read me the book it was hard to understand but I saw the movie as well I didn’t understand that Johnny and dally weren’t actually dead and would cry every time. But I’ve read that book at least once a year. I’ve lost two copies of my book to jerks in my school
What he thinks of the outsiders is what I think too
I’m in 7th grade and my English teacher had ya listen to the audio book while we followed along. Just this week she is having us watch the movie. We aren’t done yet with the movie and we are watching the cut version. My teacher even told us that their are two versions so she showed the accurate version (cut)
4:38 lol best part
gianna b hahaha thats part was so funny 😐
on hbomax,i watched the rest of the movie that we hadn't finished in class yet. i thought it was missing stuff and they added some stuff too. i remember on hbomax seeing ponyboy and johnny hunting the rabbits. i knew it was wrong so i went on TH-cam and found it was a totally different version.
I totally 100% agree with you when I first saw the uncut version or I should say the theatrical version I was sort of confused on why it started like that maybe I thought it was messed up so I took it out waited a couple seconds put it in again and I saw I had no proper introduction and when I finished watching the film I thought it was a pretty decent film I just didn't think it wasn't the best adaptation. But then overtime i found videos on TH-cam about the complete novel and hearing that it was better than the theatrical version so I decided to ask my dad for my birthday to get me the complete novel, what ended up happening was we ended up going to multiple stores I couldn't find it and I pretty much just forgot about it for for about 3 years and then recently my parents got me the complete novel on Blu-ray and I saw it and I loved it and now I 100% understand why people like the director's cut better than the cut version. I just want to say thank you so much for your views now I have no appreciation for the theatrical version recently my parents got me the complete novel on Blu ray and I saw it and I loved it and now I 100 percent understand why people like the director's cut better than the cut version I just want to say thank you so much for your views now I have no appreciation for the theatrical version and I have now have a better respect for the complete novel. And like you said is more accurate to the book.
I had never actually seen the film until today I decided to rent it on TH-cam. I had seen many clips of the movie and knew I should expect some scenes. The entire time I was watching it I was super confused and decided to do research, super glad to know I can get the full version.
BEST BOOK EVER!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for explaining the difference of version I do appreciate it as this is the film of my generation that I actually never got the chance to watch it but I am watching it has been in my Tick box list forever . Thank you from South Australia 🇦🇺
I just got finished with the book and the movie
The 1983 one doesn't have the scene where Soda runs away
I absolutely and wholeheartedly disagree with you. I never heard about the director's cut version until I watched your video informing us about it. I watched your video mainly because I had begun watching this film again tonight (had watched it countless times as a kid and more recently about 10 years ago on DVD) and was appalled when I suddenly realized that, not only was the flow of the film I know horribly interrupted by excessive material that only slows it down and spells out for you details that the cut version allows you to figure out yourself through suggestion--which is more effective--but also that the beautiful original soundtrack was gone and replaced with like a million Elvis songs and other hokey guitar strumming tunes that get monotonous after a while. After realizing this, I was infuriated because I had already watched about 1/3 of the film and did not want to see an ineffective version filled with forgettable music and excessive material. I wanted the awesome and moving original soundtrack accompanying and enhancing the mood and great performances. The director's cut version is interesting but nowhere nearly as effective and moving as the cut version. All those details spelled out in the director's cut version we figure out ourselves in the cut version; we don't need to be shown relationships taking place unless they have a compelling reason to be shown to us. The cut version is streamlined and flows better. The director's cut version drags and the absence of the orchestral score hurts the emotional impact of the film. If you play just that one scene where they reunite at the hospital, of course it's going to sound over-the-top because you're being shoved into forming an opinion on something based on merely simplistic observation of a clip and not observation as a viewer whom has been watching the events build and the emotion accumulate over the course of the film, which makes the supposedly over-the-top music anything but "over-the-top." In fact, it makes it quite fitting and compliments the situation and what the characters are feeling. The guitar strumming tune in the director's cut version is not ineffective but, to me, it doesn't improve the scene and actually injects a muted emotion that, by that point in the director's cut, has become too boring and monotonous to make us feel anything refreshing or new nor does it enhances the scene in any compelling way. In other words, the director's cut version sucks hairy cow balls. The cut version with the glorious original score is wondrous.
I just like the new one because it has more Sodapop In it....
The nrw version SUCKS! The fast paced music durring the emotional scenes takes away from what was intended. Im Sure anyone with ADHD would love the new version
@@bryannagonzales7173 I agree. The new music just ruins the emotions and drowns out a lot of the dialogue in several of the crucial scenes.
Definitely! I'm 40 years old, and I grew up watching/loving this (cut version) movie. Hadn't seen it in MANY years, then one day it was on at a buddy's house. I arrived during the scene where Johnny runs into the burning church, and I was like (Emelio! jk) 'I love this movie!' then I immediately noticed something was WAY OFF. This is a DRAMATIC moment, so why does the music imply that the characters are about to 'catch some serious waves, and hang 10, bra'? Until that day I didn't even know that another version EXISTED. I had to go find the original release just to 'cleanse my palate' of the sour taste that version left behind. GENUINELY surprised that some people prefer the new version. I just can't "hang 10" with the beach party music during EMOTIONAL scenes, I feel like that music distracts from the impact of what's being shown.
Thank god I saw the good version
I read it in 6 th grade
I had to rent the good version off of amazon prime and I thought “WHY DIDN’T WE WATCH THIS VERSION IN SCHOOL?!”
I saw this when it first came out. I don't think you are old enough to understand what it meant to us growing up. The added scenes were great, but Coppola blew it with the music, while Scorsese uses period music better than anyone else, Coppola's use of it here feels inappropriate. The score is lush, and goes with the drama of youth...The open sequence reads like a playcard. I think you're way off.
@Rocking Horse I grew up with the book as well. Also loved the movie. And Coppola ruined the new version by changing that amazing score.
I also loved the movie back in the 80s. I haven't seen the newer version to compare, but I have seen the rumble scene with the new soundtrack, and the surfer music definitely takes away from the serious tone.
@@s.d.9543I like the newly added scenes. The music took me right out of it. The original score is great.
Ever since I first saw the movie I thought Darry looked like the dad from the Diary of a Wimpy Kid movies
THANK YOU SO MUCH😃😃
why is the whole cast of this movie so freaking cute because now i’m obsessed with it
we just finished this book in school.
For my birthday(today) I got the classic, not realising at first that is wasn't the better version. Now I am watching the better version online, yet with odd languaged subtitles, but atleast it is the better version!
Btw. There are two versions. Ok now you guys know. (My friend told me lollllll.)
I was a teenager when this movie was released. I saw it with my entire group of friends and we found alot of similarities between us and the characters. It meant alot to all of us. I didn't know about the director's cut, I'll be ordering it in a few moments. Thank you for the comparison, it was enlightening to say the least. Plus you make a hell of a TH-cam video! Good stuff! Thank you. Stay Gold Ponyboy.
Sorry, don't agree at all.
The original version imo, is the better movie. I didn't read the book as a kid, before I saw the movie, and picked up in minutes who was who and what was generally going on. Mind you I was like 7-8 years old the first time I saw the movie back in the 80s. The new version does add more scenes, but some of them add nothing to the movie, and just adds to the run time.
Also the music in the new version is God awful!
The surfing music that starts during the Church fire scene feels completely out of place. Same goes for the music during Dally's death. The original score fit the tone of the movie far better. He'll, some of the scenes in the new cut, the surfing music is so loud you can hardly her the characters speaking their lines. I literally just watched both version yesterday, and hated the new version, because the music completely those off the tone of the movie.
Im in 8th grade and i am still obsessed with the outsiders
Samee
Metallica
In the 80s, there was no director's cut or DVD. The version this guy hates was what I watched, and it was all that existed. I loved it. It's cool that there is a director's cut now.
Your right watch the good one
If you are an English teacher and you should the theatrical version of this movie, you should be fired. It's a shame that this version is never shown on tv but I'm glad that it is becoming more accessible. It has a blu-ray version and Google Play added it to their library a few years ago.
I agree with this completely but uh,,
Why is your forehead so big
Thank you very much for making this video. Last year, my class read the book, and we’re going to watch the movie afterward. However, it was the Un Cut version of the movie. So after class I talked to my teacher, telling her of the two different versions of the film, where the Coppola version was more true to the book. I then asked her if it would be alright if I brought the “Complete Novel” version to school, so that I, and my fellow classmates could enjoy a much better version of the film, and analyze the similarities and differences, more in-depth if you will, and obviously she said “yes”. So once again, thank you for introducing to me the better version of the film. And also thanks for helping me get out of one day of summarizing the book and the movie (seeing that the Coppola version is longer). :)
First world problems. Just enjoy it
To be honest, the emotional orchestral pieces are better than that surf rock garbage. It doesn't work well with the movie and especially in Dallas' death scene which is my favorite movie scene of all time, that scene had a beautiful track. I was heartbroken when I saw that scene and heard guitar when dally commited suicide out of grief
Is this guy serious?
Ugh thank u for this! I was so confused on how their were two different versions and which had what scenes, and were missing them
Guy ur not funny but I respect u and this vid
You watch 5 min crafts, you can't judge. But i still respect you
Why did you feel the need to leave a comment?, it was unnecessary to say that
you decided your rude opinon needed to be shared, I pointed it out. Simple
@@thoughtyouwereamerican2302 i didnt say anything, even remotely insulting
@@thoughtyouwereamerican2302 do me a solid. and remind me why thats insulting?
Thank you, this help a lot to find the best one 🙂
How about putting some back bone into it girly man