What did Luke Actually Learn From Yoda and Obi Wan Kenobi?

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    Today we take a look at some conversations Luke Skywalker had with Obi Wan Kenobi and Yoda before they passed. This will give us more of a clue about what kind of jedi master he will be.
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  • @Engine33Truck
    @Engine33Truck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +268

    Most certainly how to control the high ground. Yoda taught Luke how to run, jump, and to beware of seagulls.

    • @bradymiller7334
      @bradymiller7334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      “When you take all the figures, and you pull all my triggers, you’re taking me back.” 😂 the nostalgia I got from that last part was crazy

    • @thebozoclub8601
      @thebozoclub8601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey vsuace Michael here

    • @johndavis2905
      @johndavis2905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      High ground is overrated and misunderstood. Jedi, meh.

    • @khamulthewack4732
      @khamulthewack4732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      "... and to beware the seagulls"
      A man of culture I see

    • @rangerleaf1505
      @rangerleaf1505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And his stick

  • @thesharpercoder
    @thesharpercoder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    One thing for sure, Yoda and Obi-Wan taught Luke how to live like a hermit on an Outer Rim world, while hiding from evil Sith Lords that rule the galaxy.

  • @SwaggerLikeUz
    @SwaggerLikeUz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Luke, Ahsoka, Kanan, & Qui Gon Jinn all found balance. Something that most Jedi could never attain.

    • @peabrain6872
      @peabrain6872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      obi wan? even anakin? any jedi who became a force ghost (except for the sequels, they dont count)

    • @shortstarwarsessays1842
      @shortstarwarsessays1842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Mike hawk long the commenter clearly forgot about yoda also a few dozen other canon Jedi Kit Fisto and Plo Koon being notable.

    • @hughmann9568
      @hughmann9568 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oneness with the force and balance are not the same thing. Like at all

    • @SwaggerLikeUz
      @SwaggerLikeUz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hughmann9568 If your interpretation is off. Your bad dude, why am I wrong lol..?

  • @FirstNameLastName-tg3rc
    @FirstNameLastName-tg3rc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    8:42 I'd argue impatience and anger don't necessarily lead to the dark side - it's a lack of support, and a cult that denies emotions and attachments while placing a rigid code on its members that turns natural emotions into pathways to the dark side (e.g. instead of denying that the anger or impatience is there, supporting the person and helping them would solve a lot of problems down the line).

    • @Rensune
      @Rensune 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Anger is fine, even Healthy, if channeled properly.

    • @BertoxolusThePuzzled
      @BertoxolusThePuzzled 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Channeling rage correctly gets you Mace Windu, IE someone who can turn the Dark Side against an opponent simply by understanding it a bit.
      Repressing all anger gets you Anakin and eventually Vader, a heroic if angsty teenager who becomes slowly corrupted from the inside by his own repressed rage.

    • @peabrain6872
      @peabrain6872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      how come all you “jedi bad” guys call the jedi a cult, but not the sith? the sith are much more of a cult

    • @Rensune
      @Rensune 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@peabrain6872 Jedi aren't bad, their philosophies often are.
      And the Sith are worse.

    • @ronkolek613
      @ronkolek613 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BertoxolusThePuzzled with a lot of help and guidance from Palpatine.

  • @lazarussolomon3541
    @lazarussolomon3541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    So if a Jedi is supposed to do as the force says...aren't they technically just acting on impulse

    • @monke12354
      @monke12354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nah impulses originate from your own concious wants. Allowing the force to control your actions, you acting as its vessel, is not the same.

    • @shortstarwarsessays1842
      @shortstarwarsessays1842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@monke12354 I tried to explain that same thing to the cops when I killed my wife.

    • @lonjohnson5161
      @lonjohnson5161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Are you saying my daughter is a Jedi?

  • @powerofanime1
    @powerofanime1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Yoda: "He has no patience."
    Kenobi: "He will learn patience."
    Me: "You seem impatient, Master Yoda. Practice not what you preach, HMMMM?"

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That and they were willing to just send Luke to just kill Vader and Palpatine like some two-bit hitman.
      No wonder the Jedi Order failed.

    • @dred9174
      @dred9174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Lobsterwithinternet I mean in reality the only way to truly overthrow the Empire was to defeat their leadership and no ordinary person is going to beat them.

  • @okisoba
    @okisoba 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    4:26 Umm, borderline evil? Their mission at this point was to deliver an extremely sensitive message to the Rebel Alliance which could help them free the galaxy of Imperial Rule. To do this, they had to escape the planet through an Imperial controlled town. A Jedi Mind Trick, on a scale of what would be considered ethical or unethical actions to slip past Imperial troops would be pretty dang low on the unethical list IMO. In any conflict, the opposing wills will try to exploit weaknesses of the other party to gain an advantage. He could have used his superior fighting abilities to cause permanent physical damage or death, or he could temporarily make the Stormtrooper think it was okay to let them pass. Short of appealing to the Stormtrooper's humanity to let them pass to save the galaxy from the Empire (which likely would not have worked), using a Jedi Mind Trick is the most humane thing Obiwan could have done.

    • @daltonevans3412
      @daltonevans3412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly my thoughts too. If he had used the mind trick to make the storm trooper kill his fellow troopers as a distraction, that would be borderline evil, however essentially just confusing the dude for a few moments is hardly evil.. hell it's hardly even a negative thing at all. Context and intention matter a lot here.

  • @TheMrPeteChannel
    @TheMrPeteChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He clearly learned about High Ground. Skywalker's School For Gifted Younglings is built on the high ground.

  • @jeffjohnson1966
    @jeffjohnson1966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I particularly enjoyed this video. Great job! You touched on a lot of things that I've been thinking about with the Jedi.

  • @HistoryPoliticsFiction
    @HistoryPoliticsFiction 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In reference to Obi-wan and his vague explanation of the Force as well his questionable ethics concerning the Mind Trick, another factor should be considered: Kenobi finds himself trying to recruit a promising young man who is practically an adult. Traditionally the Jedi grabbed up younglings at a very young age. I say grabbed because they weren't really given a choice, generally neither were their parents. When trying to recruit an adult or even someone as young as 10 like Anakin excitement and adventure are factors. Interesting enough despite Yoda's low opinion of Luke the young Jedi was also guided by a sense of duty and justice. He originally refused the ways of the Jedi despite clearly wanting adventure. He wanted to join the Imperial Academy. His sense of duty to his uncle and aunt who had raised him outweighed the ties he felt to an unknown father and his father's friend. It wasn't until both of his adopted parents were killed that he became open to the idea of joining Kenobi. In response Obi-wan showed Luke some cool stuff not only to get him hooked but to also give him some basics in the Force.

  • @starwarsfiction
    @starwarsfiction 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    A crash course to being a Jedi knight. And maybe from part of their failure.

    • @qpwdfgh4939
      @qpwdfgh4939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah but Force Ghosts exist so haven't you thought about the possibility of Luke ACTUALLY LEARNING how the former order fell down?

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Apparently not all of their failure if he's trying to repeat them.

  • @hellskarred9012
    @hellskarred9012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Seeing as how every time something happens in the Mandalorian (or Mandalorian2😆) that fans call a plot hole or something similar, it ends up being a plot hook. So my theory is it’s a test to see if Grogu chooses family (mithril chainmail) or power (lightsaber) tells him he can only choose one. Might just be a way to see what kind of person Grogu is. Like choose family in the past and it worked out so he knows that connections are not necessary a bad thing for Jedi like him. But someone who chooses power sounds more like a sith to me. But who knows we will see tomorrow.

    • @TheTrueAdept
      @TheTrueAdept 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I wouldn't be surprised that this _is_ a test that Luke came up with. A sort of 'test of character'. I wouldn't be surprised that numerous factors (like how long the choice takes) are also part of this test of character as well...

    • @hellskarred9012
      @hellskarred9012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheTrueAdept definitely. I mean everything that has had fan chatter going nuts through out these shows ended up being some sort of plot hook used by Filoni(spelled that wrong I’m sure)

    • @robertanderson5092
      @robertanderson5092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If he chooses the chainmail, it seems like a dead end decision.
      If he chooses the laser sword, he can defeat Luke and take it all.

    • @hellskarred9012
      @hellskarred9012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Now that we know which one he picked (just finished the episode) we just got to wait to see what the consequences are.

  • @theawesomeman9821
    @theawesomeman9821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I would like to point out that the mediocre lightsaber fights in episode 9, between Rey and Kylo Ren, was all Luke's fault. He never taught them proper sword fighting onscreen.

  • @2clean2care85
    @2clean2care85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Keep it up master alan

  • @PsPmoddedOUT
    @PsPmoddedOUT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I think the reason Ezra Bridger was such a powerful and wise jedi because he didnt grow up in the dogma of "masters" he followed the force itself.

    • @missink1728
      @missink1728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It also helped that his master Kanan didn't finish his training and had to learn to live as non Force user in order to blend in.

    • @unstrungbeauty7208
      @unstrungbeauty7208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's why I like Ezra Bridger as a wise Jedi, because he let go and get over Kanan's death in season 4 when Ahsoka said "You can't save your master and I can't save mine"

  • @jaspr1999
    @jaspr1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As the years have gone by in my life, I've seen, sometimes good and sometimes bad, parallels between the Jedi training and the training of a parent to their child. Sometimes the parent and their experience is a wonderful thing to pass on but sometimes the parent and/or child are outright wrong. This leads to the usual conflict of the child rebelling against what the parent is trying to teach. Most of the time the correct path is somewhere in between the two sides but pride and arrogance get in the way of both sides. One trying to stay the tried and known path and the other wanting to try new things outside of their experience, forgetting that the parent may have some of those experiences when they were younger and assume the parent just will never understand. This is the mistake of Obi-Won and Yoda in believing in Luke and subsequently, Luke and Grogu.

  • @vCLOWNSHOESv
    @vCLOWNSHOESv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think this is one area where the originals came up short. There's no reason they couldn't have just made each of the movies a half hour longer so they could have more of Luke's training. The prequels showed us how young the Jedi began training, so to see Luke defeat Vader after only training a short time as a young adult needed more explanation. I'm sure had the movies been made in order; they would have had to go deeper into the training of Luke based on the audience already knowing what it takes to make a Jedi.

  • @ditzydoo4378
    @ditzydoo4378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    These things have always been a failing of both the Jedi and Sith, never understanding that there are two sides of anything. and that to have true balance is to accept these differences.
    It was only the Je'daii Order, and the Gray-Jedi that truly sought to learn and understand both sides of the force. And thus, find and strike the balance between.

    • @DMSProduktions
      @DMSProduktions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed, Anakin and Luke were both grey!

    • @jakethesnake3513
      @jakethesnake3513 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Light side is life, the dark side is death
      Balance in the force means life itself aka the lightside, to have true balance in the force is to overcome the darkside and let the lightside thrive.
      Keep in mind the Je'daii orders ideas lead to the beginning of sith themselves

    • @hughmann9568
      @hughmann9568 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DMSProduktions star wars has two answers for "grey". One being a Jedi that doesn't follow the council and one being someone who strives to maintain balance. Anakin is only grey in one sense and Luke in the other.

    • @DMSProduktions
      @DMSProduktions 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hughmann9568 Yes, quite possibly.

  • @zoron8952
    @zoron8952 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the problem with bad visions of the future is that trying to change it is what always causes it

  • @roger632
    @roger632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Luke always be watchin da skies for dem seagulls.
    "Seagulls... stop it now!"

  • @StarWarsFanatic
    @StarWarsFanatic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I made a video about this as well. It makes more sense to me now.

  • @GenerationTech
    @GenerationTech  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always have the high ground

  • @2clean2care85
    @2clean2care85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ready for another one

  • @trapperjohn6089
    @trapperjohn6089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to take Grogu frog gigging so bad. He would give up a lightsaber, and a bescar chain mail shirt for a frog gig I bet.

    • @trapperjohn6089
      @trapperjohn6089 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plus he could eat all the bodies when you clean the frog legs.

  • @jotheunissen9274
    @jotheunissen9274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The most effective tactics to use against Vader
    The High Ground and throwing sand

  • @mommiescommiekiller6620
    @mommiescommiekiller6620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have to admit Allen is my favorite personality on this channel

  • @mackmitchell94
    @mackmitchell94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Except this doesn’t really work with the story of the first six movies. By all means, Lucas framed the story in a way making it clear that Yoda and Obi wan changed a lot from the time of the prequels to A New Hope, actually becoming much more like Qui Gon in their view of what a Jedi should be, than 20 years earlier. In The Phantom Menace, Qui Gon tells Obi Wan to keep his mind on the present moment rather than always focusing on worries of the future, Obi wan counters by saying that’s what Yoda taught him. This was one of the main flaws of the Jedi in the prequels, they worry too much about the future instead of focusing on the present, and they were taught this way by Yoda. Yoda directly contrasts that teaching in Empire Strikes Back when he reprimands Luke “for a long time have I watched, all his life as he looked away to the future, to the horizon, never his mind on WHERE HE WAS, WHAT HE WAS DOING!!”. It’s because they were so wrapped up in the future that they couldn’t help Anakin, in TPM they initially refuse to train him because they couldn’t see his future ( it was undecided/clouded). That was a very important moment in establishing how comfortable Anakin felt with the Jedi, whether he trusted them or felt trusted by them. Whether Anakin could see them as his family, which he desperately needed after leaving his mom and never got (Qui Gon the father died in the DOF, Obi wan became a brother but never a father, and Palpatine stepped into the role). His relationship to Padme was the only way he could have that family, and when that was threatened by death, his whole world fell out from under him and he was able to be manipulated and seduced by the dark father. Because the Jedi were so focused on the future rather than the present, they were blind to the fact that the very threat they were seeking to destroy was hiding in plain sight . Yoda and Obi wan learned from these mistakes after the prequels during their exile training with Qui Gon, and taught Luke differently because of that. Instead of teaching to focus on the future, Yoda teaches him to concentrate on the moment and feeling the force around him, everywhere . It’s partly because of that, that Luke can sense the conflict in his father, the good . Luke learned to focus on the present, not to dwell on the future like the Jedi of the prequels and his father who turned to the dark side because of his visions of the future. The future is “always in motion”, it depends on the actions of the present, which means the present moment is all that really matters (what Qui Gon was telling Obi wan at the beginning of TPM). This is why the sequels don’t work… Of course there would be trials and tribulations, but Luke’s Jedi order was perfectly set up NOT to fail. From what he had been taught and also because he had Obi wan, Yoda and most importantly HIS FATHER, to guide him in that task. In order for the sequels to happen, we have to believe that the force ghosts would just let everything that doomed the Jedi happen again, that they somehow didn’t know palpatine wasn’t really dead (they would’ve known). It gets worse in TROS, Luke was trying to find exegol but needed a “sItH wAyFiNdEr” and failed to accumulate one, so he just gave up (a lot like sequel Luke). Too bad his father had one on Mustafar (the one that Kylo finds) and didn’t even tell him (thanks a lot Anakin). And Anakin even knew about the existence of exegol and went there himself as Vader, but that was in a comic and we all know LF/Disney could just retcon that whenever they need to explain their fuck up. The sequels are just a mess, there’s no making sense of them without damaging the original films, and making the characters in those films incompetent fools and terrible teachers . The sequels are a totaled car, you can add stuff to their lore but it’s still broken and never gonna work with the events of the original films 🤷🏽‍♂️. I’ll just let Mark Hamil speak “I wish they’d been more receiving of George Lucas’ story. What he had planned was VASTLY different” .

  • @dogloversrule8476
    @dogloversrule8476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:47 qui gon Jin was one of the few Jedi who actually did that, most of the Jedi (including Obi Wan) didn’t

  • @ProbablyOkay
    @ProbablyOkay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    From obi wan he learned to be a hologram that wasn’t actually there, and from Yoda he learned to be a puppet rather than an actor :P

  • @anonimus370
    @anonimus370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The fact that Obi Wan still stuck with the old jedi ways always felt wrong for me. Like he saw how the old ways failed and led to ruin. And Yoda should have been wise enough to understand this as well, yet was blinded by "traditions" still.

    • @peabrain6872
      @peabrain6872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      well the difference is yoda was 900 years old, and pretty much only knew the old jedi ways

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed.
      I’d figure that he'd have figured that out by now after seeing the failures of the Jedi Order. Especially being the Padawan of Qui-Gon Jinn.

  • @thesharpercoder
    @thesharpercoder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Many people have criticized Rey for not being trained in the Force.
    All Luke had was a few minutes with a training remote on the Falcon, and he was able to use the Force to blow up a Death Star.

    • @shortstarwarsessays1842
      @shortstarwarsessays1842 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well he used the force to get a projectile inside a hole and seemed to be guided by obi wan.

    • @thesharpercoder
      @thesharpercoder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shortstarwarsessays1842 When Rey lifted the boulders at the end the TLJ she had help from Luke.. I am being serious, too.

  • @Lobsterwithinternet
    @Lobsterwithinternet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:05 Or he didn't want to tell him because he might refuse to fight Vader like both Yoda and Obi-Wan want him to or even join him if he knew he was his father.
    2:27 It also showed how arrogant and nonchalant the Jedi were about the lives of other beings. Especially when they told Luke to sacrifice his friends ‘for the greater good’.

  • @nerdwatch1017
    @nerdwatch1017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I kinda wish Ben moved something near Han with the force but I suppose that would be kinda a show off thing to do and Old wise Ben didn’t want to force Hans belief but instead let him learn to believe in his own time!! Very wise he was

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So if Luke stayed during his training with Yoda, does that mean he simply followed the old way of the Jedi Order? I think that what basically translated out as when I watched this video.

    • @christianresel8051
      @christianresel8051 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You missed the part that he returned and trained for 1 year under yoda after Bespin. Never shown, only those who READ the book did know back then too, so dont feel bad. Obi thou did never teach him much realy. Sooooooo basicaly HOW can Luke fail that hard on Grogu? An already 30 years training youngling (not padawan stupid ahsoka! thou shure under luke its more or less he being padawan as a master teaches him sooooooo take it as you want)

  • @tomyrody4412
    @tomyrody4412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

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  • @MECHAALIEN
    @MECHAALIEN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will quote the entire plotline of kotor 1 and 2 unto this video, especially Kreia

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    @MTBJJ2001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @drkinferno72
    @drkinferno72 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Feel the force around you

  • @irishpotatothief531
    @irishpotatothief531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I definitely understand your perspective on how attachments need to be taught in a healthy manner, not suppressed. However, I don't think attachment is the beneficial part of love. Attachment is the almost unavoidable byproduct of love. A Jedi is taught to unconditionally love, so that they may be free to follow the will of the force. Remember, George wrote the force to be the light, which creates balance, and the dark which is the corruption of the force. Wielding both is like walking a wire while jumping up and down. Attachments are points of exploitation in this universe, ways to corrupt a Jedi's goals. I love that Luke gave Grogu the choice many in the Jedi either never got or never felt able to take. He is asking him if he is willing to take the road less travelled, or if he wishes to be a Mandalorian. Neither option is perfect, and neither is evil. Attachments are not evil either, but they are ill-suited to a life of complete service to the force.

    • @samvimes9510
      @samvimes9510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      _"A Jedi is taught to unconditionally love, so that they may be free to follow the will of the force."_
      Except half of them don't seem to have any love in their heart. When Barriss was trapped under the rubble with Ahsoka, Luminara didn't give two shits. She just shrugged it off and told Anakin to move on. Or how about when Mace meets Boba? Boba admits he's done horrible things, but blames Mace for starting it by killing his dad. Mace basically just tells him to get over it. At Ahsoka's trial, nobody but Anakin stands up for her, not even Plo Koon. You'd think he of all people would have sided with Anakin, but nope. Hell, when Obi-Wan fights Anakin, he dismembers him and then tells him he "loved" him, that he was like a "brother" to him, but instead of putting him out of his misery he just walks off to let him slowly burn to death.
      Oh and I forgot to mention Ki-Adi-Mundi, the walking sociopath.

    • @irishpotatothief531
      @irishpotatothief531 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samvimes9510 I definitely agree. I would argue the failure of the Jedi was in not teaching how to unconditionally love, and just teaching the rules. If you do not understand why you are doing something, people will ultimately lash out and act out of anger against those rules. Also, Obi Wan could not bare to kill Anakin. He left him there because he failed to separate his attachment to him from his duty to the galaxy. I think very few of the prequel Jedi understood the purpose and the right way to love others, my named examples being Qui Gon and Yoda. Basically, I see the flaw in the Jedi's superficial commitment to their rules, rather than committing to the purpose behind them.

    • @samvimes9510
      @samvimes9510 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@irishpotatothief531 I think the main reason why they struggled with unconditional love is because they were so isolated. They spent most of their time living in what was essentially a monastery, and didn't really go out much unless it was to pick up a new recruit, or if there was some big crisis. It would have gone a long way if they had outreach programs or something. Like instead of just spending all their time at the temple, the Jedi actually go out to cities and planets to help communities in need. It would have taught them empathy _and_ improved their public image.
      Apparently there actually was an "Agricultural Corps" who did just that, and it was mostly made up of Jedi who weren't able to pass their trials. They couldn't fight but they could still use their connection to the force to help places that were struggling to grow crops and whatnot. But that idea got thrown out with the rest of the EU.

  • @timezerohour8864
    @timezerohour8864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A always kind of felt yoda and obi-one where more along the lines saying "No your level 32 and Darth Vader is 60 your going to lose!"

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That and they didn't want to risk one of their last shots at defeating the Sith getting himself killed saving a bunch of random people.

  • @AceSpadeThePikachu
    @AceSpadeThePikachu ปีที่แล้ว

    Star Wars is just as much a story about flawed mentors as it is about heroes and villains fighting over light and dark. I'd argue the entire Star Wars saga from episode 1 through to episode 6 is tied together by the theme of flawed mentors.

  • @DariatheDaring
    @DariatheDaring 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Get your lightsabers from ultra saber. They’re cheaper and have a lot more customization options and all of their blades are for dueling

  • @buster5661
    @buster5661 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Disney be like:
    Hippity Hoppity... Star Wars is now my property!

  • @trapperjohn6089
    @trapperjohn6089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rock stacking. Yoda tried to teach him rock stacking. By the time of the book of Fett, it’s obvious that Luke has abandoned his rock stacking training in favor of letting the droids stack his rocks for him. What a great example. Yoda>Luke. Yoda demonstrates the force to Luke by lifting a water logged Incon T-65 X-wing with the force. Luke demonstrates the force to Grogu by lifting a handful of frogs.

    • @WolfSpiritAD
      @WolfSpiritAD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were both things that the individual was interested in though/really wanted. Luke=His x-wing, Grogu=Frogs/food. I think that is why those were chosen. Anyways using the droids allowed him to focus on working with his student on other tasks besides rock lifting.

  • @Lobsterwithinternet
    @Lobsterwithinternet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Couldn't agree with you more.
    I think people don't realize that Han Solo was a better Jedi than Obi-Wan became.

  • @Wzrd8
    @Wzrd8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jedi may seek to do the will of the force but they must still make choices on how to carry it out. They aren't exactly mindless drones of the force all though they certainly act like it some times. They must still use the force with their own will.

  • @badonkeykong7506
    @badonkeykong7506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Were the Jedi wrong? For centuries their teaching kept students from turning to the Darkside, something that happened all the time during the Old Republic when The Order was more permissive with who they trained. When they did break their rules and trained Anakin they sealed their fate and doomed the Jedi. You could argue that the peace that their traditions forged made then vulnerable to the Darkside, but I imagine the people who caught caught up in their constant wars and schisms were happy to see more restraint on the part of the Jedi.

  • @jrowe408
    @jrowe408 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    *luke after jumping down from a balcony*
    “There hello”

  • @ducktrousers7573
    @ducktrousers7573 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    He learned about the seagulls poking at his head and waiting in the bushes of love!

  • @joshuadelbelbelluz8325
    @joshuadelbelbelluz8325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you please continue the sepratist alliance vs earth please

  • @AnkhWolf
    @AnkhWolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Darkside Cave experience is kind of like a Darkside Inoculation, it exposes Force Sensitive to it in a controlled manner so if they encounter later on they can recognise it and have a better chance fighting it's allure

  • @mynameismike7071
    @mynameismike7071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This shows why Luke would never do anything to harm Ben solo he's too attached if he did see the dark in Ben he wouldn't swipe his ass he would've tried to tempt him back to the light like He did with Vader

  • @chevychase6553
    @chevychase6553 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey unrelated to the video but considering youve done so much awesome content on starships I was wondering if you would at sometime be doing just random starships like the YV-929 armed freighter and just out there starships that are cool but people havent heard of?

  • @jessebraughler8594
    @jessebraughler8594 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty sure the creative direction they are leaning towards is Grogu eventually becoming the holder of the dark saber since he denied yoda's. Would make sense to me.

  • @Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human
    @Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since Luke hasn't found the first Jedi Temple and the Jedi Texts on Ach-To yet, do you think the reason he let Grogu leave so quickly is because he has already taught him everything he knows?
    All we saw Yoda teach him was flipping, running through the woods, and lifting stuff.

    • @dred9174
      @dred9174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Apparently there's a novel that says Luke trained for a entire year with Yoda.

  • @adeptuscustodies8203
    @adeptuscustodies8203 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make a video where the galactic republic with the jedi attack earth

  • @RQ.140
    @RQ.140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Lukeucation of Ed Skywalker

  • @m.unalercan8920
    @m.unalercan8920 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Luke in EU: Marries a hot Sith assassin and has a child with her and also trains his niece and nephews
    Luke in Canon: Attachment bad

  • @views4rmthasix596
    @views4rmthasix596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Obi wan & Luke were the first teacher and student to use distance learning.

  • @coltonking8287
    @coltonking8287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everybody talks about the jedi saying anakin was to old to start as a jedi but look at when Luke started lol

  • @Star_Wars_With_PercyMan
    @Star_Wars_With_PercyMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Is he really a Jedi Master yet?

    • @budahbaba7856
      @budahbaba7856 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I say no! Luke is a force sensitive who tries to preserve archaic Jedi traditions. There is no consecrated Jedi Temple as a meeting place, and no Jedi Council to bequeath titles. If anything Ahsoka should be a Jedi Master because she has a billion times more Jedi instruction, and experience performing actual Jedi missions than Luke does. Still, while she walked away from all that BS, it is important to Luke to have titles. Granted, according to Legends, Luke can summon black holes from across the galaxy & suck his enemies into oblivion. Ahsoka can't do that! :)

    • @dianabarnett6886
      @dianabarnett6886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Technically speaking, no.

  • @TheHonoredMadman
    @TheHonoredMadman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol not enough apparently. Where to are the force ghosts

  • @TheDJGlucose
    @TheDJGlucose 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Luke smelling the smells of the laser to deflect

  • @curiousgeorge5992
    @curiousgeorge5992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just more golden calf's,, hero's with more than just feet of clay

  • @CC-8891
    @CC-8891 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to think we didn't see a lot of things Yoda taught Luke. Some flashbacks to his training on Degobah would be cool.

  • @eddiedorsey6254
    @eddiedorsey6254 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alan the force ability is called mine alter

  • @JettQuasar
    @JettQuasar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He learned to do... or do not. There is no try.

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which is why his Jedi Order failed much like the OG one did.

  • @Bluesonofman
    @Bluesonofman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahsoka is Star Killer now

  • @vilnv
    @vilnv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12:25 I disagree here just by a little bit. When he leaves he loses, then comes back to train once more and with new knowledge. By the time he gets to Bespin he’s already late. And we know how Luke ends up on ROTJ, a Jedi Knight rescuing his father. Proving palpatine and the old ways of the Jedi wrong.

  • @joshbull623
    @joshbull623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The consensus seems to be that Luke had a few weeks of training with Yoda, roughly a month. His training with Obi Wan seems to be a couple weeks. That said we know he could commune with both as force ghosts however so who knows what happened afterwards, logic should dictate that they continued to teach him as force ghosts. We also know through the description of what the jedi trials are that he technically completed all jedi trials throughout the trilogy even if there wasn't a jedi master overseeing there completion. That said it appears the show is going with the sequel trilogy Luke where he ignores all his experiences and Yoda and Obi Wans mistakes in life and instead choosing to repeat the mistakes of the Jedi in order to truly call himself a Jedi as obviously it is a prerequisite no matter how illogical.

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quite.
      I thought it was obvious when he threw his lightsaber away after refusing to kill his father that he rejected both Yoda and Obi-Wan and Palpatine.

    • @joshbull623
      @joshbull623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Lobsterwithinternet We all did I think, boy were we wrong :(

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joshbull623 Sadly. 😢

  • @steelshanks1265
    @steelshanks1265 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Expanded Universe Luke is the REAL Luke Skywalker... From his training, to accepting friends, and loved ones, etc. He even gets married, and has a kid... that's the Jedi Order We should be watching now... not Disney's absolute disaster...

    • @da-vidcargill4975
      @da-vidcargill4975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      boo woo cry mode

    • @steelshanks1265
      @steelshanks1265 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@da-vidcargill4975 Mark Hamill himself agrees moron...

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Eagles 30 Exactly.
      New Luke seems hell-bent on emulating Master Yoda and repeating past mistakes for no real reason.

  • @paulluna8099
    @paulluna8099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Based on what I have been seeing is the Jedi order is meant to fail to the point Dath Bane's Rule of Two applies to the Light side. Unless there's imbalance in the Force then only the Force will allow the number of Jedi to exist.

    • @shortstarwarsessays1842
      @shortstarwarsessays1842 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seems like that’s not how the force works in disneys canon, it seems like the force chooses you and your power level and other users power doesn’t affect your power.

  • @elektrosoundwave
    @elektrosoundwave 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I must be the only person who liked Luke's arc in the sequel trilogy because I know one thing. Heroes fail and the Jedi way is prone to failure because it leans too much on hero worship

    • @zackdawgz8398
      @zackdawgz8398 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel like it’s hopeless and just useless nihilism

  • @jonathanng2390
    @jonathanng2390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Luke learned that there is no room for him in Disney Star Wars.

  • @alexstreet9470
    @alexstreet9470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo , the audio this video is out of control . It’s like a roller coaster .

  • @BruhBruhBruh251
    @BruhBruhBruh251 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love any reference of starkiller, I wish Disney would just canonize him

  • @hellfish2309
    @hellfish2309 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1) Leia should NOT have kissed him; 2) to reach out w/ his feelings; 3) that he didn’t need power converters

    • @robertanderson5092
      @robertanderson5092 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      4) Stretching the truth is OK from a certain point of view.

  • @jordansteen3942
    @jordansteen3942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Makes me wonder if Luke ever tried to find some of the old Jedi of order 66 in Canon to learn from them or bring them to the Jedi order I know when Legends he found some that joined the order I just mean like in Cannon

    • @classical4872
      @classical4872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe in legends that he managed to get one or two survivors from pre-empire jedi order into his new order, but my memory fails me, so i do not recall if these "survivors" i come to think off are actually from before the empire or were taught by luke... though, based on what i can recall, he almost definitely had at least someone, potentially a master from that time before himself that he found on some remote planet with likely even a few younglings that he managed to get to come with him
      ... almost like a hidden jedi school or something like that, but i really cannot recall for certain if what i'm recalling is a comic or so where a lone jedi knight/master tried to protect a group of younglings from the empire and basically succeeded or if it was something else
      In short, i believe it is almost a guarantee that in legends luke found survivors and learned some from them, but later down the line, once the empire was on the backfoot with the death of both palpy and vader and basically defeated, maybe around 10-15 ABY (maybe even further forward than that) he actually tried to recruit the very very few former jedi who remained, most likely not even being 3 remaining out of what was in my knowledge in the time right after order 66 maybe a hundred who remained.

  • @donbisesi6328
    @donbisesi6328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How only the siths deal in absolutes, absolutely just them

  • @DavidSmith-bt5zn
    @DavidSmith-bt5zn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    He learned Jedi must always be emotionless, show no love, have no attachments, how well did that all work out for the Jedi?

  • @bizarrespecies9750
    @bizarrespecies9750 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do we know Luke was a bad teacher for Grogu ? We only saw him train him for like 20 minutes. 😂 We don’t even know 100 percent that he’s no longer training him.

  • @strambino1
    @strambino1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Luke because he starts off getting his ass kicked by sand people, his army loses at hoth, he can’t lift an x-wing, gets his ass kicked by Vader and comes back to beat down the most badass cyborg in cinema history. Then shows him mercy because when you’re strong you shouldn’t be a dick.

  • @bolojohnson711
    @bolojohnson711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do Warhammer 40k lore as well, let alone halo/gears of war

  • @johannesbowers7467
    @johannesbowers7467 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lie like a rug you must, the jedi way this is.

  • @BillyBOB-sm3rl
    @BillyBOB-sm3rl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So Omega and the Bad Batch are gonna show up and help Bobba.

  • @jerrymazzola6017
    @jerrymazzola6017 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't know if anyone else sees it this way, but I feel that Luke and Ahsoka are simply repeating the teachings of the old Jedi Order because they're inexperienced teachers and mentors. They've never trained anyone before so they're falling back on what their masters taught them.

  • @filiussolis5368
    @filiussolis5368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder why so many people are upset. Pretty sure Luke is just testing Grogu's state of mind. Even if he chooses the armor, Luke won't just give up on him.

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think a lot of it is that they were listening to a bunch of TH-camrs who said that choosing the lightsaber would mean that the sequel trilogy would be erased from canon.

  • @Jungoguy
    @Jungoguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:00-oh that's poodoo. Obi-Wan said that because he thought Anakin was dead to him.

  • @graelent9
    @graelent9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wait who was the 'one old clone' that Obi Wan tricks? I think I missed something

  • @crucewilkinson8907
    @crucewilkinson8907 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Listen here meow.

  • @aliciaaltair
    @aliciaaltair ปีที่แล้ว

    If Luke had had a third teacher, a younger, more progressive Knight or Master from the old order who saw and understood its failings and pitfalls, his education would be well-rounded and yoda and obi-wan would serve more of a healthy, meaningful purpose. Students need more rigid boundaries and guidance when they're young but as they age and gain experience it becomes more important that they learn how to decide for themselves and self-direct, at that point they need a teacher that answers the student's questions with a question like "Interesting question, what do you think?". I think Luke spent a lot of years dealing with imposter syndrome because while his own thoughts/feelings about certain things may have naturally gone one way, he had the teachings of these venerable masters in his head telling him something different, making it harder for him to trust himself and his connection to the force.

  • @The1theycallghost3030
    @The1theycallghost3030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We all got a chicken duck woman thing waiting for us.

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't.
      I got a lovely lady lobster waiting for me! 🦞🎀

  • @daemonblackfyre3238
    @daemonblackfyre3238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Apparently not shit but how to use the force and make the same mistakes as the Jedi Order of the Republic.

  • @-JA-
    @-JA- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍👏

  • @idkwhattomakemyname101
    @idkwhattomakemyname101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which one was the clone that obi wan fooled? I never know one of the troopers was a former clone that’s cool

  • @40STILLGAMING
    @40STILLGAMING 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Luke learned how to make a Sith.

  • @joshfactor1
    @joshfactor1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    look, dude, i get it; i mean i'm not too crazy about the name either but i think we're stuck with it indefinitely

  • @tucker0214
    @tucker0214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello friends welcome back to another episode of Generation Tech my name is Allen
    This is true and even the true jedi had there flaws

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The greatest of which is the Jedi Code.

    • @tucker0214
      @tucker0214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was the majority of what I was thinking honestly they were to rigid in thinking as a collective and short sighted

  • @BAZFANSHOTHITSClassicTunes
    @BAZFANSHOTHITSClassicTunes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Luke missed the most important lesson. Speaking in riddles.